May 19, 2019
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Comments for: Elvers fetching more than $2,000 per pound

  • Anonymous

    Happy for you elvers hopefully the eviroterrorists don’t screw it up for you folks.

    • Anonymous

      yeah, because we don’t need to worry about overfishing or any of that science type stuff. Screw the next generation, I got mine!

      • Guest

        You can never overfish without putting fisherman out of business..  Just can’t happen.. If there is not enough fish to catch due to overfishing, fishermen got bankrupt and out of business, thus the cycle starts over, the fish replenish due to the lack of fishermen..

        • Or go extinct…

        • Anonymous

          For a species that breeds in the Sargasso and has to run a gauntlet to get to freshwater to live it’s life until it’s ready to head back to sea to run another gauntlet of dangers.  Over fishing could prove detrimental just the one time for certain regions.  What would happen if you remove the parent stock from a river is there any guarantee that young from other parents will find their way to that river?  I don’t know enough about the life cycle or habits of eels to know the answer to that one.  But it is something to think about.  Salmon and I’m sure other fish return to their natal rivers and streams, but if you remove all the fish that would go back there, you don’t have any fish that will ever return, and have thus effectively made a local population extinct.

      • Guest

         WOW, 407 people are going to bring this about?

        • cleanearth

          Can this be brought about, you ask, keek669?   Yes, of course, the species could go nearly extinct, or even extinct if enough are taken. 

          Why is the price so high?  Are there already shortages of eels in their usual habitats?   

          My feeling is that people should be able to raise or hunt the food they need in their own regions of the world.  Why are we risking an entire species to feed the particular eating habits of the Japanese?

          Oh, I keep forgetting, it’s all about the money.

          Perhaps the Japanese, for one, ought to limit the number of children people have, as China has done, so that they can produce enough food to feed themselves on their many islands.  

          I’m not a fan of shipping our natural resources far away until the needs of Maine people are met first.

          It’s like the Chinese-owned pulp mill in Baileyville (Washington County), which doesn’t make paper, but smashes up our woods, then bleaches the pulp with chlorine-based chemicals (leading to dioxins in the St. Croix River), and then ships the pulp out of Eastport all the way to China.

          So we’re left with toxic chemicals in our rivers and streams and lakes and coastal waters, while the Chinese take the profits wherever they take them.

          If the world’s various regions cannot sustain themselves without extensive imports, then what will they do when oil gets really expensive and/or in short supply?  It won’t be pretty.

          • Anonymous

            i agree with you the only reason the price is high is the asians dont have sources, that should be a tell be we as humans will seek a buck first

        • Anonymous

          yes get educated , 407 people will catch a majority of the age class  the put in nets on each side only those swimming in the middel get through and by nature they tend to swim to the side 

          • Guest

              “Get Educated”, Hummm, Seems to me Some think they know everything.

          • Anonymous

            He’s right about the path they take, if the majority of the eels traveled up the center where do you think the nets would be, at that price it’d be worth any damage to the net on the haul of fish alone.  But where would you swim int he strongest part of the current or the weakest, they know what they are doing and how to get the most for their set up.

          • Guest

            OK.

          • Anonymous

             Some know nothing, refuse to learn, and are proud of it.

          • Guest

            Happy that’s not you or I.

      • Anonymous

        This fishery is heavily regulated. There are regulations about how many hours the nets can stay in at one time. Also there are 407 licenses for the entire State of Maine. If you want a license you have to wait for at least 5(and I think it is actaully 8) people to give up their licenses before you can get yours.

        • Anonymous

          yes genius becuase the resource is depleting 

      • Anonymous

        if haqlf wits like wipplehauser cared she would call for a moratorium

    • Anonymous

      It is a sustainable resource if it is used appropriately, but with out oversight which everyone complains about even though they know without it things would go down the drain pretty quick.  Can’t just go all out, it’s bad for the population and it can’t replenish itself if that happens.

    • Anonymous

      The price per pound will destroy this fishery.

      Greed – not “enviroterrorists” will be its downfall.

      yessah

      • Anonymous

        nossah — the enviroterrorists cannot stand any kind of economic independence.

        • Anonymous

          Extinction will cure yer “economic independence” real fast.

          The real ecoterrorists will kill of the elver fishery.

          yessah

          • Anonymous

            nossah 407 permits.

    • Anonymous

      Do you think scarcity may be driving up the cost per pound?   If these were plentiful the cost per pound would not have gone up nearly 700% over a few years.   You may not have to worry about the “eviroterrorists” (sic) screwing it up, they may very well do it themselves.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t worry about any of it .

      • Anonymous

        The fact that there is huge demand for these eels in Spain, France and the Far East is what  drives the demand. These elvers show up for the most part in one area, here on coastal Maine. Nearly 100 % of the supply for the demand is harvested in Maine waters. I think Maine Marine Resources is doing a very good job at making sure this fishery does not get depleted.

        One thing to also take into account is the nuclear and tidal disaster in Japan which has put domestic eel harvesting in that country on its knees, if not flat on its rear.

        • Anonymous

          maine marine resources is absolutely not doing a good job , havent for years , i absolutely know that as fact

    • Anonymous

      yeah because catching the young that wont be breeding age for at least 25 years will help the future . Quick buck today none tomorrow

      • Anonymous

        407 permits .407 people making a living is not gonna destroy the population, nice scare tactics though .

  • Anonymous

     Forget about winning the lottery. When I grow up, I want to be an Elver fisherman. 

    • Anonymous

      Then you will pretty much have to win the lottery.

      • Anonymous

        There’s always a string attached! I’d probably have a better chance getting hired as a CEO and wait for my golden parachute. 

  • Anonymous

    “The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has been petititioned to list eels either as threatened or endangered, which would prevent them from being fished.”

    gee, why is that not a surprise.  it’s all about jurisdiction and expanding the regulatory reach with these people

    • Anonymous

      I think you may be a bit confused.  It was an NGO that petitioned the USFW for a listing, they are just conducting surveys at this time to determine the strength of the population.  What is likely to happen is that enforcement of any rules and regs will stay with the DMR, but with any changes that come from up top.  It’s not all about jurisdiction it’s about keeping regulation so you don’t wipe it all out.  That is what will happen if they are allowed to fish and fish with no oversight.  People are quick to cry foul when regulations, rules, and all manner of conservation stuff comes up, but when they see only a fraction of the catch they used to get they expect someone else to fix it.

    • Anonymous

      That sounds like a one size fits all knee-jerk boilerplate reaction that reflects a need to dig at anything to to with governance. Very tea party-like. Very angry, low information, very sad.

  • Anonymous

    A $2000/lb  price tag will kill this industry in a couple of years.

  • Guest

    TAX THE ELVERS!  yes it should be a proactive, oh wait we have a Republican governor and a majority Republican legislature…………congratulations to the working man who catches elvers……lucky for you there isn’t a Democract governor in the Blaine House you won’t realize it now but come April 15, 2013 you will because your taxes due will be lower thanks to the Republicans in Maine anyway.

    • Anonymous

       By .55 of one percent.

      Gee, thanks.  I’d pay the extra .55 percent in exchange for not having Mr. LePage represent our state.

      • Anonymous

        lol

  • Anonymous

    Mainers love to deplete and destroy fisheries. That fisherman’s greed must be in all Mainers blood. Fish till there is no fish left they say. The Asians destroyed their elver fisheries long long ago. Now it is Maine’s turn.

    • Anonymous

      Well lets be a little more realistic, the world likes to deplete it’s fish stocks to detrimental lows.

      • Tim

        Sounds like another tidbit of “wisdom” from the great state of Northern Massachusetts.

        • Anonymous

          Do you not think that is the mind set out there, even the fishermen know it is.  It is a take take take mentality out there, the more you can get the more money you can make, and no one cares as long as they are making money.  Everyone complains about regulation, but when the fishery collapses everyone complains that there aren’t any fish.  I have lived in Downeast Maine and have spent plenty of time up North by the way.

  • Guest

    Math. 1lb=$2000
    10lbs=$20.000
    100lbs=$200,000
    1000lbs=$2,000.000
    After being schooled by some of the posters I’m thinking ,Thats a lot of money. and greed could set in… Work hard for a couple of months and and you could become a multi millonaire..

    If you had a license what would you do??  I would fish until they told me I couldn’t anymore.. Human nature..

    • Anonymous

      It’s not the people who have the permit/license that you need to worry about, it’s all the other people fishing illegally that you have to worry about, can’t catch em all!

  • In most of Europe, it’s dip nets only. NO FYKE NETS. That may be a good answer here as well. Lots more eels get bye and it may allow DMR to increase license sales and allow more people into the fishery while allowing more eels to make it upstream to mature. I know the guys with the big nets will not like this idea. 

  • Anonymous

    The price is HIGH because they are going EXTINCT… A moratorium must be placed on the fishery for a few years so they can recover…

  • Anonymous

    Chicken farms.
    Pig farms.
    Salmon farms.
    Why not an eel farm ??

    • Anonymous

      Because they have not been successful in getting eels to reproduce in captivity.   This is why they are caught as elvers and sent to farms to be raised to market size.

  • Anonymous

    I’m in the wrong business!

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone think that perhaps  the Factory Ships from other countries with their miles wide nets stretching accross the Oceans might have something to do with depleting the fish population?  Are They even regulated?

  • Anonymous

    Best elvers ever? Francine Bistro in Camden!

  • Anonymous

    Remember what happened to the unregulated sea urchin fishery? It was raped to near extinction because of the high prices being paid by the asian market. There is a reason the price is 2K per pound. The demand outweighs the supply. This fishery will be destroyed in short order and it won’t be the eco-terrorists that destroy it.

  • Penny Gray

    Looks like we may need to start a zoo for the fishes in the sea before we’ve eaten every last one.  It’s the death knell of a species when the price skyrockets like that.  We know so little about the mysterious lives of eels, but we sure know how to catch them.

    • Anonymous

      Asians will eat anything….

      • Anonymous

        Eels are eaten all over the world, I’ve had them and they are a good dish.  Granted in the far east there are many strange dishes, but the same can be said in other parts of the world.  Shouldn’t knock it until you try it.

  • Catch the Elvers, Feed them to Spotted Owls in Washington, Then Cut Down the Tree They are in.

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