Comments for: Should nonresidents who are denied concealed weapons permits in other states be ineligible in Maine?

Posted Jan. 30, 2012, at 4:23 p.m.

AUGUSTA | New York has strict gun laws for those seeking a concealed weapons permit. Maine, by comparison, has relatively moderate laws. However, because of loopholes in gun laws, a resident of New York can come to Maine and apply for a nonresident concealed weapons permit. If the permit …

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  • Anonymous

    Only if you feel there are not enough heavily armed people, a statistically demonstrable number certain to be crazed  fruit loops,  zooming about  state already.

    • Anonymous

      You should know, the people you hang with.

    • Anonymous

      Excuse me! Permitted CCW holders are among the best behaved citizens. They have, after all, complied with the law and been background checked. Have you?

      • Anonymous

        Jimmy boy if the 12 apostles were permitted and packing there is still the Judas factor, and whose checking the checkers?  Respectfully you’re all wet.

  • Anonymous

    I think ME should make the final decision based on our criteria and what the specific reasonwas why the home state refused the individual.  Some reasons are valid some are not.

  • Anonymous

    Why is there a comparison with New York when it has “strict gun laws for those seeking a concealed weapons permit” and the law refers to “granting a nonresident concealed weapons permit to anyone who has been denied a permit in another state with equivalent or less restrictive laws.”

    It sounds like New York needs a law about honoring less restrictive states rather than Maine making a useless law. If a person is prohibited from possessing a firearm they will be denied in Maine. End of Story.

  • Anonymous

    The only time a MAINE permit should be issued is for a MAINE resident.  That being said reciprocity for other states permits should be recognized.

    • Anonymous

      I agree. I look at this way to make it simple. If my license in Maine is suspended or revoked I am not going to be able to get one in any other state.

      • Anonymous

        That’s not necessarily true, which is why I think only people who live in their respective states should be able to get their states permit.  Requirements for a permit vary state to state, so for example in some states only someone who is or was in law enforcement is able to get a permit, though the state may recognize another states permit.  So based on various state requirements you might be able to get a permit or you may not.  Which is why I feel that only residents of a state should be able to get a permit from their state, but that other states should recognize other permits if they are reciprocity states.

        • Anonymous

          “Bowler said he believes Maine laws have a lot of safeguards to prevent
          questionable people from getting permits but “our concern is the one
          unqualified person that gets by us.” ”

          Make SURE they Are qualified.

          “Maine should be careful of nonresidents who are seeking permits here.”
          “. . accounts of concealed carry issuing authorities refusing to issue concealed carry licenses . .”
          Yes, do the background check, know the Reason if one was denied.
          Does it rise to denial level in Maine? It’s not a trick question.

          • Anonymous

            Why should a non-resident of this state be able to get a concealed carry permit?  They don’t live here, and they don’t spend the majority of time here.  What ultimately needs to happen is a standardized permitting process, with reciprocity across state lines.  

          • Anonymous

            RIGHT! If they think Maine is so dangerous that they need to carry a gun, they shouldn’t come here.

          • Anonymous

            Well it’s not that they think Maine is dangerous, it’s the fact they are trying to circumvent their states process when they should be trying to get the process changed so it is isn’t overly restrictive in their home state.  It shouldn’t be something that only people with money and connections are able to get, it shouldn’t take an unreasonably long time to get, etc…  What needs to happen is a change in the system.

  • New York gun laws are screwed up beyond help. Most of the people who carry a weapon there most likely do it illegally. Maine’s CCW laws and  background checks are fair and thorough. Whether or not NY wants to recognize a permit issued here, , well, thats up to them.

  • nopesorrybdn

    Chances are if they are denied one in their current state they will also be denied here, barring political reasons like a liberally biased legislature. A felony is a felony and the fbi will report a persons background the same way no matter what state asks.

    • Anonymous

      Absolutely if you are denied for a legitimate reason, but if you don’t fit certain criteria like having been in law enforcement, or were unable to provide a valid reason (determined by someone else) you might not be able to get a permit in different states.  The permitting process is not uniform, which is why people go to other states to get permits to carry. 

  • Anonymous

    Recognizing and accepting individuals’ CCW permits from other states in a reciprocal manner would be ideal for all those involved. Better still would be a federal mandate to do so, but although a bill mandating this passed the House of Reps. this year for the second time, it vanguished in the Senate. Issuing permits to out of state individuals without permits from their state of residence would, however, be a rediculous thing to do and should not be allowed. If an individual from Maine, even with a valid CCW is found to have a handgun in his/her car while driving through NY (even if dissembled and in a locked box in the trunk), that person will be arrested and serve a mandatory prison sentence. You figure the logistics. Ken

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    • Anonymous

      If there is a valid reason to deny someone a permit they will be denied in Maine. A lot of very liberal states such as New York, California, New Jersey, and Maryland make it very difficult to get a permit, to the point of unless you are rich and well connected you do not stand a chance. Should our system be based on wealth and who you know or should everyone get a fair chance?

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        • Anonymous

          There is no uniform process for obtaining a permit to carry.  You might be able to get one you might not.

        • Anonymous

          Please refrain from making uninformed comments then. If you don’t know the situations involved or the background, then don’t make baseless comments that will in practice deny others a basic right in America.

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          • Anonymous

            You do not understand that this article is full of misinformation and going by what they say in there does not let you make an informed intelligent statement. If someone meets our state’s criteria then there is no reason for us to deny them.

      • Anonymous

        That is true. I bought long guns in Vermont and in Maine back in my early twenties. I was in a sporting goods store in Massachusetts when I spotted another rifle I wanted to buy. It was kind of a spur of the moment thing. I told the clerk I would like to buy that gun. Wasnt I suprised when I was asked for my permit to carry! For a rifle I asked? The reply was yes, you have to get a form from the police department in the town you live in filled out before I can sell you the gun. I didnt bother tell the clerk I was not a Massachusetts resident.

        The question is—should people be able to do end a rounds on the laws in their state of residence like they can in this circumstance?

        • Anonymous

          Only 20 states honor Maine’s non resident permit. They are: Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Delaware, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Vermont, and Alaska. 3 or 4 of those states have constitutional carry so they honor everything because they don’t actually require a permit at all. The 2nd amendment is permit enough.

          Note that the liberal states I listed (New York, Maryland, Massachusetts, California, New Jersey) are not listed and do not honor Maine non-resident permits. Maine only honors resident permits and only from 8 states: Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Arkansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Delaware.

          The important thing to remember is that this article is bunk and written with the intent of fear mongering with non facts and false situations.

          • Anonymous

            Sometimes I wonder which state I’m in?

          • Anonymous

            I don’t understand what you are getting at. I listed the 20 states that would be affected by this law and noted that the scary example in the article is based in la la land because New York doesn’t honor Maine non-resident permits.

  • Hey why not make the permit good in all 50 states like your drivers license is.

  • Anonymous

    “Maine for example has fairly moderate laws” really means we have liberal or relaxed laws.  There is nothing truly moderate about laws that make it easy for the mentally ill and those with histories of domestic violence that have gone unprosecuted to obtain firearms permits.  With all of the interstate communication to serve public safety, the lack of a uniform database to track gun purchases and permit applications is an obviously willful negligence that costs lives.

    Each state could still be entitled to decide what preconditions to impose but at least the information would be available to be acted upon.  We make it too easy for someone to cross boundaries and obtain permits and arms they are not able to access in their home states.  Maine’s lax laws do create more gun sales, but is this the way we want to run our economy, with the blood of innocents on our hands?

  • Anonymous

    If an outastater complies in all regards with Maine law, he should be granted the permit. He or she may have compelling reasons for needing it. You can pile up the “what ifs” all day long, but, at the end of the day – if he/she complies with our laws, grant the permit.

  • Anonymous

    There should be reciprocity to holders of concealed weapons permits in all states, however, if you cannot obtain one from the state where you are living, I don’t think that you should be able to carry in another state. Tough laws in New York with regard to carry? You Liberals asked for the tough laws and elected people to carry out your wishes. Leave us alone in Maine.

    Let’s remember-concealed carry is a serious issue and only those with the knowledge and ability should exercise this right. If you have been convicted or whatever, you have already shown us that you are not a candidate for concealed carry. It is very simple-no need to drag this issue out. Behave-carry. Get busted-loose your rights. That is supposed to be how it works in this country.

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