December 10, 2019
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Comments for: Portland council throws its weight behind ‘corporate personhood’ abolishment

  • md

    Nice symbolic vote. Does it mean anything, or not? The point is that the city made its voice heard in the national dialogue.

  • kcjonez

    Portland City Council — 1  

    SCOTUS — 0  

  • “All of this corporate money tends to drown out the voices of the average citizens.”

    Think about it,

        Some of this Corporate Money comes from the Average Citizens in the form of Money invested in retirement funds. when is the last time Walmart / General Electric/ Macdonalds / Exon / Chevron ect ect ect called you and asked you to use your investment dollars on political matters?

    • Anonymous

      Stockholders merely get invited to annual meetings and asked to vote on board members and their compensation.  Spitting in the wind for most since any dissent gets nowhere, fast.  And they certainly don’t get asked for permission to spend policial money.

  • Anonymous

    This whole issue of making non-living entities in our country, paper people, citizens of the US is an outrage.  How about we conscript the board of directors of WalMart and send them to Afghanistan?   Let us see how much these paper citizens of our country fulfill their obligations to America.  

  • Guest

    Hats off to Portland, and the others around the country that oppose this decision by a Supreme Court which is proving to be not so supreme, I wonder if Augusta will follow suite being that it’s the capitol of our state. But then again, it’s hard to lead when one always follows.

  • Anonymous

    Wish I knew who said this first: “I’ll believe corporations are people when the state of Texas executes one.”

    • Anonymous

      It happens all the time. In Maine also. They are called bankruptcies.

      • Anonymous

        Bankruptcies are hardly comparable to executions.

      • Anonymous

        Cheesecake, though I often disagree with your point of view you normally present a well considered opinion.  However as concerns this issue you seem to be kind of far off the mark.

        • Anonymous

          Well,  when I see an opinion that is a bit hyperbolic like above I kind of move to the other side with the same level of hyperbole.

  • Anonymous

    Really, is this what you were elected to do, tilt at windmills?

  • Anonymous

    Wise move.  Given the scale of thinks, individually Quixotic but hopefully more will follow.

  • Anonymous

    Like the portland city council carries any weight to begin with……

  • Anonymous

    I cannot figure where this issue really intersects with city level politics.  I agree with those that consider this more symbolic than substantive.  That is not necessarily bad, but it does make it a non-issue for those outside Portland since there are not likely to be any real impacts.

    The development on the anti-Citizens movement that is most worthy of note is the Montana challenge.  Montana has had on its books a law prohibiting dark money for a hundred years.  With the history they have had with large mining companies once controlling their elections, Montanans are holding fast to their ban.  The state supreme court upheld the ban that has been in place since 1912.  That decision will only affect state elections but the lack of consistency between the laws may give rise to a federal challenge to Citizens United v. FEC rendered in 2010. 

    History is full of great lessons.  Failure to read and pass history along through the years can mean reliving the pain of past problems.  This appears to be the case with the Citizens  decision.  In the period from 1890 through 1920, our country saw the power large corporations could exert in almost every aspect of life.  Monopolistic interests controlled prices, bought judges and candidates and exploited workers.  After several banking crises, the people had enough and a number of laws were passed restricting the role of corporations.  The anti-trust law still in place today came from that era and those struggles.  The wave of deregulation that has characterized the last decade or two has dismantled most of those protections.  Once again, we are seeing corporations writing legislation (ALEC), influencing elections (Super PACs), weakening oversight through lobbying (SEC) and basically running amok.  The result is also the same as it was one century ago, the wealthy who own the corporations live in a new gilded age.  The rest of the country is left to suffer economically. 

    In time, Citizens United will either destroy American democracy or it will be overturned though an  amendment or weakened through other decisions.  Unfortunately, we are reliving a part of Americas dark history of excessive corporate power and seeing the same consequences our ancestors saw in their day.  This is why we need to teach history.  Democracy only works when the electorate is well informed.

    • Anonymous

      I think you answered your own question by the time you finished your comment. If not local, then where does the grassroots start?

      Personally, I believe this decision has done more damage to SCOTUS than anything else I can remember. These individuals are supposed to be above politics, but this is about as political as it gets.

  • Guest

    This is just Brennan and his cronies creating a distraction by waving one hand in front of your face while lifting your wallet with the other hand.  Look for some backroom discussion or illegal executive session, that didn’t make the paper, to figure out what crooked deal they are trying to conceal this week.

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