November 13, 2019
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Comments for: Republicans say they won’t support some of LePage’s cuts to MaineCare

  • Anonymous

    Wow!  Some R’s who haven’t been lobotomized yet?!  Or maybe they realize
    their jobs are up in Nov. if they continue to support OutRage?

    • cleanearth

      No need to be sarcastic.  It’s a good thing that D.’s and R.’s are willing to work together.  Be glad for every scrap of common sense that occurs in government.

      • Anonymous

        It’s easier for some to beat the old ideology drum, rather than accept that a majority of the citizens of this state have spoken, and want reform. You are correct. Common sense is non existent in todays political landscape, and it is good to see a dose of it once in a while.

        • Anonymous

          Just when was it that the majority of the citizens of this State spoke and wanted “reform”?

        • Majority?

          What Majority?

          • Anonymous

            With conservative math sometimes a 37 % plurality =  THEIR majority. 

            With skills ( or values) like that , can they be trusted to run a business
            …. never mind a State ?

          • Anonymous

            Just like 6 months ago when LePage had the gall to complain about Obama’s THREE YEARS in OFFICE. It still hasn’t been 3 years yet. 

          • Anonymous

            What has Obama done to be deserved to be re-elected.  He has done nothing.   He has bailed out everyone from Car Companies, Wall Street,  Big Banks,  Chellie Pingree’s Multi- Billionaire Husband,  Solynda and now Siga under federal investigation.  Credit Card reform that helps credit card companies, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac more bailout money,  Ethanol Subsidies and Increase to 15% Ethanol in our gasoline when cars have hard time on 10% ethanol.   He needs to get used to his vacations and golfing trips because after  January 20th , 2013 he will have alot of free time on his hands.

          • Anonymous

            “What has Obama done to be deserved to be re-elected. ” 

             He got OBL. 
            And the us out of Iraq. 

            Bush didn’t and he was re-elected. 
            Then what happened… HE, W,  ” bailed out everyone from Car Companies, Wall Street,  Big Banks,” 

            Deal with reality.

          • Anonymous

            Actually it was Bush that got us “out of Iraq” vs as signed agreement with Iraq on a timetable.  Obama wanted to stay but Iranian influence kicked us out.

          • Tyke

            Nope. Bush’s “withdrawal” plan included leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq. Obama headed up an actual withdrawal not a Cheney version.

            Obama deserves the credit because the plan used was HIS not the really, really dumb  one he inherited.

          • Anonymous

            Nope wrong again. The Bush signed SOFA agreement called for full withdrawal. No rewrite please.

            late April 2007, the U.S. Congress passed a supplementary spending bill
            for Iraq that sets a deadline for troop withdrawal, but President Bush
            vetoed this bill soon afterwards.[3][4] All US Forces
            are mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by December 31, 2011
            under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President
            Bush.

          • Anonymous

            Bush’s “plan” was to secure all of Iraq’s WMD, too.

            Did he carry out that plan ?   
            Oh my. 
            Deal with reality, not FNN. 

          • Anonymous

            non sequitur

          • Anonymous

            Ad hominem ? 

          • My dad is stronger than yours!

            He can lift a refridgerator!

          • Tyke

            OK. My error. Bush called for keeping 50,000 “advisers” in Iraq. How silly of me to actually call them what they are.

          • Anonymous

            But he signed an agreement with no troops in any capacity…… You have your time line screwed up or are intentionally telling fibs. 

          • Tyke

            Talk about “revisionist” history! Bush issued signing statements for the spending bill indicating his intention to construct permanent bases in Iraq. He planned to get around the US Forces terminology by calling them advisers.

            http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2008/01/30/bush_asserts_authority_to_bypass_defense_act/

          • Anonymous

            Actually Cheese, you are right about the timeline, but wrong about Iranian influence. Iraq refused to allow immunity for U.S. soldiers should they come under, and return fire. If you’re going to pontificate and try to come off as the smartest person in the room, get your facts straight. And Obama didn’t want to stay. Who told you that?? The neocons slammed him for sticking to the pre-designated timeline set up by Bush, including McCain and others who knew the deal but thought they could get a free jab in on Obama.  Just remember who got us into Iraq to score points in a urination contest with his daddy Georgie the 1st.

          • Anonymous

            Actually Cheese, you are right about the timeline, but wrong about
            Iranian influence. Iraq refused to allow immunity for U.S. soldiers
            should they come under, and return fire. ~~~jj16oz

            You fell for the Washington political cover argument. This is a good article on what actually went down.

            http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/10/21/how_the_obama_administration_bungled_the_iraq_withdrawal_negotiations

            So you won’t attack the source: On September 29, 2008, The Washington Post Company announced that they had purchased Foreign Policy from the Carnegie Endowment for
            International Peace.[1].

            Salient Points: The day after the US withdrew from Iraq an arrest warrant was issued for the anti-Iranian Sunni Iraqi VP. 

          • Anonymous

            14 straight months of job growth creating over 2.6 million jobs.  He saved the auto industry, otherwise we’d all be buying Toyotas and Hondas.  He got us out of the wars.  Osama dead.  Ghadaffi dead.  Wall Street reform, although the Repugs watered it down and now want to repeal it so that the rich can make more reckless investments.  By the way, the Wall Street and bank bail outs were done by Bush!  A Consumer Protection Board that will help consumers if the GOP stops stalling and confirm the department head.  Obamacare which stops insurance companies from cancelling your policy, allows kids until age 26 to be covered under their parents policy, allows for pre-existing conditions and covers 30 million who did not have such coverage before .  You also lied about the ethanol subsidies which have now ended.  You need to get used to crying because only the crazies don’t realize that the GOP is ruining America and Obama will be re-elected because noone with a brain wants to go back to the Party and policies that started this whole mess.

          • Anonymous

            Another words he is a socialist who has bailed out just about everyone that he can.  His economic policies will lead to slow or no growth and slow job creation.  Obamacare is a failure it will bankrupt this country, just like Dirigo has done to the taxpayers of Maine.  The Ethanol subsidies may have been ended by the help with Republicans but Obama and the EPA went behind the backs of congress and raised the amount of ethanol in gas to 15%.  Which cars are having a hard time with 10% it is destructive on car parts , engines, it is destructive to boat engines, snowmobile engines,  plane engines, small engines (lawn mowers, weed wackers, snowblowers).   The fact is Obama has done nothing to move the economy foward, he wants to raise the debt another 1.5 trillion.  He wants to tax higher incomes which in the end will lead to everyone being taxed higher.   He wants to turn this country into a Welfare Haven and Nanny State.  With all of us being controlled by Washington and dependent on them for everything.   That is not change.  Real Change comes when Obama goes back to Chicago or Hawaii on January 20, 2013.

          • Anonymous

            Typical GOP response …ALLEGES that taxes will go up on everyone when NOONE is proposing it…more lies and spin. REAL CHANGE sure won’t be going back to the incompetent corrupt GOP to lead us into the next DEPRESSION.

          • Anonymous

            Bull when Democrats raise taxes they claim they won’t raise them on the middle class , lower class etc..   It always has happened look at their record here in Maine.   They surely haven’t lowered taxes on people.   Their infamous Dirigo Health/Soda Tax bill that voters repealed and Tax Reform which raised certain taxes but created more than 100 new ones which they claim would lower the income tax 2% LOL (voters repealed that by large margin as well).   The Liberals are good for raising taxes, borrowing huge amounts of money , destorying jobs, buying votes, and filling pockets of Welfare Bums, Liberal Special Interest Groups and Ex Politicians like Angus King, Dennis Bailey and Kurt Adams.  Keep drinking the Kool-Aid that comes from Democrats such as Emily Cain,  Cynthia Dill,  Justin Alfond and John Martin.  Because if you and others like having your pockets raided for stupidity and foolishness you can continue to subsidize this nosense but other folks and myself have had enough.

          • Anonymous

            So you are just using GOP rhetoric right from the GOP playbook, and I quote “Always call tax increases for the rich only “tax increases on all of us” so that the fools are fooled”. It’s time to reverse the past 60 years of tax cuts for the wealthy…from 92% top tax bracket to now just 35%. Trickle down is a failed GOP policy. It’s time to try trickle up. Increase taxes on the wealthy. Decrease taxes on the middle class. As the middle class spend every extra dollar they get, this will spur demand and will lead to more jobs. Why not try trickle up for a few years because almost all Americans have had their fill of failed trickle down bs.

          • Anyone who crys socialist has totally discredited himself!

                How is it that Obamas Affordable Health Care Act forces everyone to buy insurance from a private insurance companys is Socialistic and the Republican Medicare Plan to hand over the Taxpayers Money to Private insurance companies as vouchers is not?

          • Anonymous

            Do away with health insurance companies.

          • Now your talkin!

          • Anonymous

            Thank you for the nice , factual list of all that has been accomplished so far under Obama’s watch. I wish that someone would do the same for all that was accomplished under Bush’s watch.  Darkcat? Overtaxedagain?  You both hold forth as informed conservatives – would you  please list all of the positive accomplishments under Bush’s watch?

          • 1. Went to war with the wrong country

            2. Destroyed the ability for people to seek adequate compensation for damages in court

            3. Drove the Defecit out of sight

            3. Oversaw 58,000 Manufacturing companies move overseas

            4. Made sure that Fema had an incompetant leader

            Darn my keyboard fingers are starting to hurt!

            Here is a Link!
            http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/13/8923

          • Guest

            Bull crap..he hasn’t saved anything.  He just took money from us to put a bandaid on the big picture while making his cronies rich

          • Anonymous

            you are living in FOX fantasyworld where facts are lies and lies are facts. Change the channel or be forever wrong.

          • Anonymous

            Another comment from the Brain house?

          • How soon you forget the eight years of Bush. Put the blame where it belongs.

          • Anonymous

            They sure are forgetting that he started it BUT  never secured all those WMD. 

            Oh, my. 
            Let the revisionism resume,now. 

          • Anonymous

            The 81% of the Maine people who didn’t vote for the Liberal Democrat nominee.  The majority of Republicans, Tea Partiers, Independents (myself) , Libertarians and Blue Dog Dems who voted the out of touch Leftist Maine Democrats out of office that’s the majority he is talking about.  We voted them out because we wanted change in economic policy, philosphoic change in Augusta and more freedom for our citizen’s what is taht Liberals can’t handle.  They did an awful job (being nice), they destroyed our economy, drove out young folks like myself.  They did everything to buy votes to keep them in office.   If they did what the 81%ers wanted they might still be in power today.   They are balking at Lepage and the Republicans but have proposed no new solution.   Only want to be voted back in to power so they can go back to business as usual.

          • Anonymous

            The dems had their problems but did not abuse their power like the Republicans are doing with their radical small minority view agenda that only serve the rich special interests!

          • Anonymous

            Really did the majority vote for the Dems.  That is why Angus King got 35% of the vote when first elected.  Baldacci never having more than 47 % each time , with 38% in his re-election bid.  The fact is the Democrats are not popular here in Maine to most.  Those who are struggling or have lost their jobs think the Democrats are the problem.

          • Anonymous

            Those that are struggling or have lost their job KNOW that the ONLY party trying to help THEIR lives are the Dems. The GOP work ONLY for the rich 24/7 and don’t lift a finger for the middle class, the elderly and the poor.

          • Anonymous

            Miss wasserman is that you.The dems help keep people poor,addicted and wanting.Other than programs that are not sustainable or bleeding money into their own leaders what has Dems actually done for the poor.Ever program they start becomes a cash cow for a dem politician, that really helps the poor.How about these unsastainable fishing programs like dirigo that get people hooked on entitlements then the dems whine  and blame the richwhen the payment comes due.You keep railing about taxing the rich more and the big tax cuts rich get.If the rich get so many tax breaks why are they paying 60-80% of the taxes collected.What a break they must get.How about in maine we drop the tax level from 250 thousand down to 40 and add to the base.How about the onees complaining sending in more money to the state.The state accepts check.Seems like all we hear out of the dems for a fix to the problem is someone elses money.How about everyone having some skin in the game.50% of maines population pays nothing in taxes.I say start taxing everyone and broaden the base.To use a little quote from the great divider. Here in maine why would we want to hand the keys back to the ones that crashed this car.Mr Lepage is pulling it out of the ditch and it is severly damaged.

          • Anonymous

            blah blah blah same old GOP garbage. The Dems have no stake in helping the poor other than their common decency. The rich DON’T PAY 60-80% of the taxes but they do own 60-80% of the wealth. If they did pay such taxes, we wouldn’t have the deficit we do. The lame GOP suggestion that anyone can send in extra taxes if they want is ridiculous. LePage is doing more harm to Maine than he’s helping.

          • Anonymous

            the top 10% paid 70% of all federal income taxes
            the top 50% paid 97.75%of all federal income taxes
            the bottom 50% paid 2.25% of all federal income taxes
            talking about blah-blah and same old tax the rich campaign rhetoric from the great divider.Try reading something other than Obamas campaign flyers.Why would we want to give the keys back to the party that run the state in the ditch.Mr Lepage is cleaning up the corruption,giveaway programs and failed unfunded entitlements programs the Dems left the tax payers with.

          • Anonymous

            When the rich pay taxes commensurate with their wealth and use of our infrastructure, then you’ll have something to talk about. But they don’t. Taxes for the top tax bracket have dramatically decreased from 92% in the 1950s to now just 35%. The proposed tax increase on the millionaires is miniscule. They can afford to pay 5¢ per dollar on ONLY the dollars they earn above $1 million no matter what you say timmy.

          • Anonymous

            Yeh, but you would give the keys back to the Republicans as President even though Bush and the GOP put us and every State including Maine in the ditch. HYPOCRITE! No doubt you voted Bush into office so it’s partly YOUR fault that Maine is struggling right now.

          • Tyke

            Moderates and progressives got over 50% of the votes in each of those elections.

          • Anonymous

            If you add all of the Liberal candidates on the ballot you can get it.  The only reason Angus King got 58% of the vote in 1998 he didn’t run against anybody half decent.  He was not popular at all and noone decent would run against him trust me if you ran someone with some name recognition Baldacci or King would have lost in landslides.  That is why Democrats are out because people want change and want a fresh start and new economic policies and philosophic changes to Augusta.

          • Guest

            Gesh..I guess if you say it enough it is true? You should definitely look into a job with the republican party..they always need a good tool.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t want a job with them.   I will take posting on here making Liberals life miserable  just fine.

          • Anonymous

            So you want to be a bully by making the lives of others miserable?  How admirable.  

        • Guest

          This is why you guys get so upset when things like this happen;
          you live in a Fox fantasy world of stereotypes, misinformation and Fox facts.
          When reality collides with your fantasy world it can be really scary : (

      • Anonymous

        It’s a Christmas miracle…a Republican opposing the Party line.

        • Anonymous

          It’s a miracle when someone from either party opposes the party line.  Does it really matter?  Most politicians are all the same anyway.

        • Anonymous

          RINO’s Unite !

        • Anonymous

          On the ninth day of Christmas …

          • Guest

            propaganda web site, nice try

          • Anonymous

            You can call it propaganda, but if those people signed that pledge, we need to know that. 

            Those are then facts, facts about who and what those politicians are: Anti-Americans. (Norquist has said he simply wants to reduce our government “to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”) Beware, Hitler started with just a few tweaks of the laws, as his power grew.  We know where that ended.

             “So if that’s what he wants, he’s got it. You know, he’s — megalomaniac, ego maniac, whatever you want to call him. If that’s his goal, he’s damn near there. He ought to run for president because that will be his platform: ‘No taxes, under any situation, even if your country goes to hell.’”

      • Anonymous

        “No need to be sarcastic.” 

        No ? 
        How about truthful or with respect for voter’s rights and the secret ballot
        …. so for the US Constitution ? 

        Explain this: 

        “Virginia GOP Will Require Primary Voters To Sign Party Loyalty Oath

        By Marie Diamond on Jan 3, 2012 at 11:08 am

        … Now the Virginia GOP is extending the trend to voters, requiring them to sign a loyalty oath to the party before they are allowed to participate in the primary:

        The state Republican Party will require voters to sign a loyalty oath in order to participate in the March 6 presidential primary.

        Anyone who wants to vote must sign a form at the polling place pledging to support the eventual Republican nominee for president.”

        “Anyone who refuses to sign will be barred from voting in the primary.
        During a brief meeting Wednesday at the state Capitol, the State Board of Elections voted 3-0 to approve three forms developed by the election board’s staff to implement the loyalty pledge requested by the state GOP.

        Those who wish to vote in the primary must sign a form that says:

        “I, the undersigned, pledge that I intend to support the nominee of the Republican Party for president.”

        ( No compromise… even if it is Perry, Donald Trump, Buchanan or Ron Paul …. which might it be that your conservative political masters dictate to you that you support,
        or face God’s wrath ?????) lol

        “The pledge so impinges on citizens’ fundamental right to vote for whomever they want in the general election that even some Republican lawmakers in the state have come out against it.

        This is not the first time Virginia Republicans have tried to implement a loyalty pledge. They backed off their attempts in 2000 and 2008 over concerns about alienating independent voters. ” 

        http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/01/03/396323/virginia-gop-will-require-primary-voters-to-sign-party-loyalty-oath/ 

        So show how us all how to speak of what the CONSERVATIVE GOTea PARTY ACTUALLY DOES DO  … with no DOUBLE STANDARDS, hypocritical partisan lies,
        or well deserved sarcasm, if you can, please. 

        Has anyone else ever noticed it’s only called class warfare if we fight back,
        …. if the majority fight to maintain our rights ?

        No sarcastic intended in that last … it is just a statement of the facts, sadly.

        • chris reid

          Amazing…Totally Amazing. I hope your post is read by all who post comments here.

        • Anonymous

          Hey, you laugh, but I can see a few rich, fat, white, old, and self righteous people signing this pledge! lol. 

        • Anonymous

          How do the intend to enforce this “pledge” come Nov?

        • cleanearth

          My comment was directed at the person who made fun of the Republicans who want to work with Democrats on one issue.  To me, bipartisanship is worth praising, not ridiculing.

          Of course requiring a loyalty oath is wrong;  sensible people would agree with that.  Fortunately, we are not Virginia.  There is no such proposal here, nor, I believe, would Maine people stand for it, Right or Left.

          • Anonymous

            “Of course requiring a loyalty oath is wrong” 
            … so worthy of sarcasm ? 

          • cleanearth

            Sure.  Whatever makes you happy, Deah.

          • Anonymous

            Oh no, yours is all that matters to me, or to any of us,  Daalin’  . 

          • cleanearth

            Huh? 

          • Anonymous

            Huh ? 
            You’re who is having to explain what your post were supposed to mean after telling others how to express themselves, how to comment on politics.

            Does my mirroring of your comments sound bad to you ??? 
            Think about it, cleanearth. 

            That’s  all I’m asking of you, and doing  so sincerely, with the best of intent.

        • Anonymous

          The loyalty pledge doesn’t require them to pledge a vote in the GENERAL election, only the Pimary.  They can vote for any Republican or even a Democrat  in the general if they want.

          • Anonymous

            “The loyalty pledge doesn’t require them to pledge a vote in the GENERAL election… ” 

            Huh ? 
            Can you read it ? 

            It says what : ” “I, the undersigned, pledge that I intend to support the nominee of the Republican Party for president.” 

          • Guest

            Finally….its taken into context….some of these people….I swear

          • Tyke

            Try reading it. It requires that the signer support the Republican party candidate for president in the 2012 election.

            So are you claiming they can “support” that candidate but still intentionally vote against him and for his opponent?

            Wow. That kind of twisting might pull something

          • Anonymous

            YES

        • Here is another Pledge, and a list of Conspirators!

          Check out those in Maine who Signed this.

          • Anonymous

            Take the SAVE AMERICA pledge: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN EVER AGAIN.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, I am amazed.  It’s like finding a D who hasn’t had their backbone removed.

      • Anonymous

        No need to act sarcastic, no need to act like he is related to LePage.

    • Anonymous

      lepage is doing his best to unscramble the mess of years of entitlement. we all can’t ride in the wagon, we’ve got to get some of these people ouy to help pull it. he Will be re-elected, there are enough of us that want this mess straightened out!

  • Anonymous

    Those Republican legislators who don’t support Gov. LePage’s proposed cuts should be targeted for defeat in the fall. The Gov. has superior information and insight, and he should not be undermined by supposedly loyal members of his own party.

    • Guest

      Those Republican legislators are already being targeted for defeat!

      And we both know the penguin has no suprerior info or insight.

      • Anonymous

        And he is certainly a target,   a great big HUGE target in a couple of years.   And he better have superior insight, if even one of the houses loses it’s majority this coming November.
        Superior insight???…..saying what he says and doing what he does is superior insight?   How insightful was it when he plopped his butt in on a closed work session under way??

    • Anonymous

       “The Gov. has superior information and insight”… Our Dear Leader, Paul Kim Jong Il LePage…

    • cleanearth

      Silly talk.  The Governor doesn’t know more than the Legislators.  Forget party labels and try to come up with sensible solutions.

      We all know the budget has to be cut; the question is how to do it so it doesn’t hurt people, especially elders and the disabled.

      • J

        Idea – just recover the $200 million he gave to his rich supporters!

      • the question is how to do it so it doesn’t hurt people, especially elders and the disabled.

         Stop the Tax Giveaways!

        • cleanearth

          Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we have a WINNER! 

  • Anonymous

    Neither Mr. LePage’s budget nor personality are well suited to Maine’s needs.  Only a united effort of lawmakers to resolve spending and taxation issues can serve us properly.  Arrogance, bullying and haughtiness will not result in solutions.  We should urge our representatives to be both responsible and sensitive to the citizens of Maine rather than blindly idealogical or simply single-minded.

    • Anonymous

      Your being too generous.  This administration is behaving so recklessly and irresponsibly that they can’t even hang onto the support of their own party.  This is just further evidence (though we needed none) of the level of incompetence that we’re dealing with.

      • Anonymous

        Who does he represent ? 
        Not even the GOP ! 

        We need run off elections in Maine so that high officials represent the real majority of voters in at least one election.

        • StillRelaxin

          This has nothing to do with Republicans agreeing or disagreeing with Mr. LePage’s silly statements actions or policies involving everything from art, chemical ignorance (“Tiny Beards”), voting rights, child labor laws, or hatred for the mentally/physically ill, poor, unemployed, or labor in general. It has everything to do with being reelected next November. They may not think like we do but even a conservative can see the writing on the wall in the upcoming election. Personally I say sorry guys and gals, you’re simply too late in joining the reasoned majority and short of changing parties you’ll be getting no vote from me or anyone else in my family in the next election cycle.

          • Anonymous

            Hopefully the 30th district will give us republicans an early christmas present next year.I am going to work as hard as i can to see it happen.

          • Anonymous

            good for you timmy. As for the rest of us another Republican is no better than a lump of coal.

        • Anonymous

          Let’s talk about privatizing the Maine Maritime Academy and saving $100 million in this decade before we decide to throw grannie and grampy into the cold.  Those jocks from NJ and Conn can afford to pay for their own spa and sports programs.

          • Anonymous

            Petition the Govenah. 
            Good luck. 

          • Anonymous

            Have you considered applying again as an adult?  Perhaps they might consider your application now that you’ve had more life experience.

          • Guest

            Sounds like someone has an obsession

          • Anonymous

            Do not take the name calling to hard.Glad to see someone offering ideas rather than just liberal name calling from a party that is fading.They had their little romp through the credit card and maxed it out.Now it is up to the grown ups to pay the bills.

        • Anonymous

          He got the same percent as Baldacci last election, doesnt seem like that bothered you much!!

          • Anonymous

            So you are saying LePage is no bettah than Baldacci ? 
            Okay. 

            But what part of “We need run off elections in Maine so that high officials represent the real majority of voters in at least one election.” sticks in your partisan craw ? 

            Do you oppose run off elections, so majority rule ? 
            Why ? 
            They would apply to all. 

          • Anonymous

            Lepage is a breath of fresh air for conservatives who have common sense enough to know we need cuts, even when they hurt,. And a majority vote is a majority vote  but when Baldacci had the same percent as lepage it gets quite tiring listening to all the whining. And please dont put Lepage in the same catagory as Baldacci. The Democrats have made such a mess of this state give him a chance to straighten it out.  The state does continue north after Augusta

          • Anonymous

            Another comment from the Blaine house?

          • Anonymous

            You heard it first here:

            Le Page Death Panels.

          • Anonymous

            actually a comment from a hard working tax payer tired of the reckless spending and liberal idiocracy running this state  change has arrived sit back and enjoy the ride

          • Guest

            Why not have investigators look at all the people stealing aid from the state. Lazy men and women that could be working

          • Tyke

            We might get back that $1.6 million that House Speaker Nutting owes us!

          • Anonymous

            that would be a start, but the only fraud the GOP cares about are what they can try to pin on Dems or perceived Dems.

          • Anonymous

            It would clean up a lot of maines democrat problem.

          • Anonymous

            The problems in Maine and the nation start with people like you who have a radical ideology that is unshakeable. Republicans caused the economy to tank and are only obstacles to fixing it. It’s such a joke that these crazy radicals are begging us to give LePage a chance while at the same time blame Obama for Bush’s mess and haven’t given Obama a chance to fix things. HYPOCRITES!

          • Anonymous

            you are preaching to the choir we only need to convince the rest of the state how much fraudulent aid is being dished out

          • One Mess wont cover another!

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, sure … opinions, everyone has one…. 

            “And please dont put Lepage in the same catagory (sic) as Baldacci ”

            Why not ? 
            You did. 
            I quote: “He ( Polly LePage ) got the same percent as Baldacci last election …” 

            Are you special ?
            Why, IYO,  can’t I do what is fine for you to do?  

            Conservatives  have turned Maine politics into the Special Olympics …. lol. 

            BUT MY POINT WAS ABOUT REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY AS  PRACTICED IN (THE REPUBLIC OF ) MAINE. 

            So ; again …  “what part of “We need run off elections in Maine so that high officials represent the real majority of voters in at least one election.” sticks in your partisan craw ? 

            Do you oppose run off elections, so majority rule ? 
            Why ? 
            They would apply to all.”

            Run like  a big boy, and answer what was written. 
            Can you ? 
            Can conservatives run one on one against the big boys ?

          • Anonymous

            Obviously conservatives can run against anybody that is why there is one in the governors office now so get used to it many more to come. The problem with your run off elections is the Idea never came up until all of you whining liberals didnt get your election then it became an issue 

          • Anonymous


            The problem with your run off elections is the Idea never came up until all of you whining liberals didnt get your election then it became an issue” 

            Love the insight into how you ( and all conservatives, too, ???? , given we all are making broad generalizations, now, just like you do)
            sort what is right from what is not. 

            Good evening.

          • Anonymous

            very typical change the subject by talking in circles , why did the democrats not call for run off elections when Baldacci won his last term just a straight answer will do

          • Anonymous

            “very typical change the subject by talking in circles” 

            Don’t you hate it when liberals are just like
            you ? 
            lol

          • Anonymous

            Not if people get wise to the GOP’s radical agenda of ONLY working for the rich 24/7 and not giving a damn about the elderly, the poor and the middle class.

          • Anonymous

            actually people finally got wise to the democrats increasing handouts without actual proof of needing it,without enough money to pay for their programs that is why there is a conservative in office

          • Anonymous

            you read TOO much into what the last election proved like the Dems did the election before that. My guess you’ll be eating your words this time around though because LePage and the GOP have overreached and abused the power given them and sadly this has happened in many other states as well, in some cases even more egregious. The GOP in Congress are showing they don’t know how to govern and lets face it their type of governing got us into this mess to start with so who would want more of that. Add in their constant ONLY-CARE-ABOUT-THE-RICH agenda, and the odds are they are swept out or should be. You do have UNLIMITED SECRET CAMPAIGN FINANCING ON YOUR SIDE to fool the fools to voting against their own best interest so we’ll see.

          • Anonymous

            Funny to hear about campaign finance, when Obama spent more on his campaign than any president in history, then to hear you state that republicans got us into this mess when Obama has also spent more money than anyone in his position in history

          • Anonymous

            You had to spend money to stimulate Bush’s failed economy silly. 

          • It is Pretty much an established fact the Globalization Policies of the Right have caused the need for the Social Safety nets from the left.

            http://www.olemiss.edu/courses/inst310/Ha08.pdf

            Quotes From the Right!

            So its true!
             
            The Government is the Problem Not the Solution!

          • Anonymous

            I believe your beloved Obama is the one who wants a global economy and a global currency and larger government

          • Anonymous

            Republican fresh air smells like the mill in Rumford. LePage isn’t helping. He’s just another problem by being too radical and abusing the power he was given.

          • Anonymous

            to most of us the mill in rumford smells like tax revenue and people working maybe you have a problem with that

          • Anonymous

            Really love the way you guys ALWAYS think your views are in the majority without, and even sometimes in direct contradiction with, empirical evidence.

          • That  smell of Money Causes Cancer!

        • Anonymous

          Better, and cheaper than runoffs: Ranked Preference Voting.

          We have seen what having five candidates for governor has given us.  A minority elected the governor, with 38 %.  And to be fair, Baldacci was also elected during one of his races with a similar minority.  There has been lots of speculation in 2010, if only Candidate Y had dropped out, or better, Candidates Y and Z, since their poll numbers were so low, and the election results confirmed that, I think one had 5% and other 7%.  But that 5 or 7, or the combined 12% could have changed the outcome!Now with Ranked Preference Voting we can get to say who we REALLY want, without worrying it might allow an unliked candidate to “sneak” in.  Don’t like Candidate Q–DO NOT VOTE FOR HER AT ALL!  Not confusing.

          An intelligent alternative.

      • Anonymous

        Negotiating 101:  Start high, negotiate until you reach your desired outcome.   Finally, we have a Governor with intelligence.  Gov. Lepage and every other person in government knew that his proposal would not pass as is.  Negotiation was expected.  Keep it up Gov. Lepage, the tax payers are counting on you.

    • Guest

      It sure is getting lonely at the top.

      • Anonymous

        If it walks like a duck it is probably a duck, if it smells like $hi! it is probably $hi!, the legislature does have a little common sense. 

    • {We should urge our representatives to be both responsible and sensitive to the citizens of Maine rather than ,

      blindly idealogical or simply single-minded}

      You Mean Like This?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCszcknZb_Y

      • Guest

        watched the video…and I agree 100 % with the Gov..Its time the free ride is over!

        • Anonymous

          Do you know what you’re agreeing with?  I was in the hospital and met a man traveling round trip 59 miles daily from his home to the hospital for a treatment for an infection that is required each day over a period of several months.  His affliction is not drug related in any way…a rare infection but one anyone could get anywhere.   Even at a pawltry 35 cents per mile, its costing him at least $5000 in travel expense.  There are many, many other like him.

        • So how about you give up your Bank Account #s  without a warrant!

          You “”could be”” a Drug Salesman !

        • Watch it again,and again and again  until you can figuere out that not all Medicaid recipeants are drug addicts.

          • Anonymous

            nor Dems either.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve seen the video.  After LePage bumbled over the Class-A license reference, he seemed to say that 50 million dollars of Maine money was going, annually, to pay for transportation for drug addicted persons.   Incorrect in all details.   That sort of misdirection, over-simplification and rable-rousing rhetoric has been a tool of despots throughout recorded history.  Read The Prince or Hitler’s diatribes for more examples.  Or just study history.

        • The biggest point that I was trying to make is that he certainly has crossed the line by associating welfare recipeants with drug addicts!

          Its the same as stereotyping all Blacks as Hoodlums and all Muslims as Terrorist!

          The end result is a violation of their 4 th amendment rights.

          This man has NO concept of Constitutional Government .

          The ONLY thing that seems to Motivate him his Money and Hate!

        • Anonymous

          so your answer is pay for transportation and kick granny out.It is one or the other the budget must be balanced.

          • Anonymous

            Reverse the big tax cuts for the rich, “crisis” averted.

          • Cant do that!

            Grover Norguist said so!

          • Balancing a budget means making the expenitures meet the revenue.

             There is NO need to choose when you can make the revenues meet the expenditures.

    • Anonymous

      spoken like a true transplant!!

      • Anonymous

        Native son, actually, east and north of Augusta.   But, since you bring up the subject, perhaps you would enjoy various parts fo Arkansas or Louisiana or Detroit better than Maine.  Consider moving, please, rather than holding the rest of us back.

    • I think he fits in very well — that is — in NYC or NJ. 

  • Anonymous

    sorry bunch of demo wannabees in republican clothes.

    • Tyke

      No – classical Republicans from the sane branch of the party.

  • Anonymous

    ” The governor has recognized all along that an alternative would be needed … ”  Why cause all the discontent in the first place and waste the legilators’s time. Seems to me the constructive approach would be to propose an approach that had a chance of succeeding up front. 

    • Anonymous

      The theory is the same as asking for 1,000,000 dollars when you only want 100,000 dollars.

    • Anonymous

      He’s being what they call wishy washy, and doing what they call flip flopping. And he used to say he wasn’t a real politician! Well, he’s one now!

  • Anonymous

    this program is going away anyways because the feds will not support it.Some more of the liberal giveaways we could not afford. I feel bad for the people this will affect but the previous admins had to know this was a program that never should have been offered incorrectly now the states on the hook for another failed program.

    • Anonymous

      His proposal would have gone away, because the federal government probably wouldn’t have waived anything,  especially the PNMI’s.     What he did was go in there and said, “the feds will waive it because I’m telling you that they will”.      How thought out and smart was that?   These legislators are not idiots, and I would dare to say that most are more intelligent then LaPage.

      • Anonymous

        I would dare say that 90% of the people in Augusta could kick Poor Paul’s butt in a battle of wits, in my opinion. He has all the classic traits of a dullard, in my opinion. Dishonesty, bullying, name calling, short tempered, etc.. Unfortunately, he is not our best or our brightest, in my opinion.

        • In a battle of wits he is an unarmed man!

          LOL

          • Anonymous

            It is for much the same reason that conservatives do so fear class warfare. 

        • Anonymous

          If the politicians you say are so smart? And our governor is so stupid.Then why are we in this mess if the past politicians  are so great .the past admins kept kicking the can down the road.The road has ended and the governor that you say is so stupid is the only one in augusta that sees the end of the road.Time to pay for the past fail unfunded programs.The problem with these decisions does not lay in the fix.The problem is the failed creation of programs that were destined to fail.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry for the confusion. I was speaking of the entire populace of our capitol city. If it was just the legislature that we were comparing the honorable governor to, it would be a race to the bottom. I have an idea for solving the unemployment problem in Augusta. Give all our “public servants” an I.Q. test and a drug screen. If they fail the whiz quiz or score under the world wide average of 100 on the I.Q. test, show them the door. I’ll bet a lot of people would be absolutely shocked at the number of vacancies. Starting with Boss Hogg.

            ——————————

      • Anonymous

        Really can you supply us with where this inside information came from or is this just more democratic propaganda from a fading party. 

    • Anonymous

      How about the fact that if some of these women had been able to access reasonably priced reproductive care including abortions maybe the state wouldn’t be paying for a million kids.Let’s see how bad you feel when the elderly and disabled die before they can be disenrolled from voting in November.There will be deaths from cold,starvation and failure of the elderly/disabled to afford their drugs this winter.Let’s see if that gets covered by the media.

  • Anonymous

    “patients of substance abuse treatment programs.” won’t be cut.  That is just plain sad.

    We are building a drug facilitating infrastructure.  We are telling these losers to:

    “Go ahead, get addicted, make poor choices. There are no consequences.  We will just give you sec 8 housing, disability, food stamps and free rides to a methadone clinic.”

    What kind of society are we building?

    • cleanearth

      One possible solution to drug addicts who will not/cannot stop using drugs illegally would be to put them on a farm where they grow their own food and food for others, as well as maintain the place and do supervised community service with their lives.   

      Because the Oxycodone opoids are built by the pharmaceutical companies to fit exactly into human receptors, these addicts will always have the craving for them.  Many addicts  can’t seem to fight that, so they have to be removed from regular society so that they cannot keep stealing from others to get the money to pay for their expensive habits.

      Sounds a bit Draconian, I know, but we cannot support this program in the long run. 

      Keeping opiate addicts on opiates at taxpayers’ expense for the rest of their lives is just plain stupid and useless, as well as intolerably expensive.

      • Anonymous

        “built by the pharmaceutical companies to fit exactly into human receptors, these addicts will always have the craving for them.  Many addicts  can’t seem to fight that” 

        But : cleanearth ; ONLY 1 hour ago in reply to Tom Harvell:

        “Drug addiction and alcoholism are not “diseases.”  They are life-style choices …”

        So now,   suddenly,  because they are “built by the pharmaceutical companies to fit exactly into human receptors, these addicts will always have the craving for them.  Many addicts  can’t seem to fight that”
        …  it IS SO  physiological,  and not just a pathologically self-indulgent life-style choice . 

        So is it is, now, suddenly, a disease, again, or not  ?

        • cleanearth

          No, not a disease.  Some people can’t give up coffee or  chocolate or too much salt or sugar, either, but those are not diseases.  Nor is imbibing too much alcohol or drugs a disease.  

          However, some people are more weak-willed than others and so simply keep taking drugs or alcohol until they’re stupified and unable to work or be productive.  Not a disease, a life-style choice.

          If they can be removed from being able to acquire drugs or alcohol, they can once again be able to work and contribute to society.

          • Anonymous

            You have to have things two different ways at once to make to any sense at all. 

      • Anonymous

         Reallly, seriously?? Gulags? Forced labor? Strip someone of their constitutional rights because they became addicted to opioids? You’re a real piece of work cleanearth. Better iron your Brownshirt for the cross burning tomorrow. Got your jackboots shined so you can stomp an addict as they get off the box car at your workfarm? So what will it be? Addicts who can pick potatoes to the left, and elderly or physically compromised people addicted to opiates to the right for some zyklon B therapy??  I would think we’ve come a little bit further along since Treblinka, Auschwitz, and our own Japanese internment camps. I’m ashamed to say in your case, not so much.

        • cleanearth

          Oh, don’t be silly.  Working on a farm as an alternative to prison is a good deal, and would allow seriously addicted people to get off their drug addictions, plus pay their own way by growing their own food and food for others, too.

          What is your solution?  Allow the problem to fester and worsen, as it is doing, so that here in Washington County we have people’s homes being stripped of copper piping so the addicts can sell it for a few dollars, also home invasions of elderly people to steal any prescription drugs they may have?

          Seriously, we need to ponder what can be done.  Do you have a solution, other than continue to feed and house addicts and keep them addicted by paying for their methadone (another opoid drug) which many of them then sell some of  on the street?

          Really, jj16oz, what is your solution?  Taxpayers don’t like paying for addicts, and I predict will rebel against doing so before long.  People feel others should pay their way, and able-bodied addicts are no different. 

          There is no need for hysterics; we need solutions.

    • So here is the truth of the substance abuse programs. They are cheeper than prison or hospitalization. Getting rid of them will grow the budget. It is a disease and should be treated as such and we will save money and have a compassionate society. With a bit less hate than you seem to hold onto. 

      • cleanearth

        Drug addiction and alcoholism are not “diseases.”  They are life-style choices.  If the addicts do not have the ability to get off their drug of choice such that they begin to steal and harm others to support their habit, then it’s time to remove them from general society so we can be safer in our homes.  I say put them on an enclosed farm so they can grow their own food and food for needy people.

        Sorry, but supporting people who will not/cannot stop using drugs illegally isn’t what I want to do with my small income.  They’re better off financially than I am, with free housing, cash, food stamps, free fuel to keep warm, health care, etc., etc.

        Regular citizens who choose not to become addicted to drugs or alcohol are struggling financially already – addicts need to take responsibility for their own lives or we ought to ensure they don’t harm others.

        A farm is a great idea since Maine needs more locally-grown food anyway.   Then they can learn to be self-sufficient so that they can function in regular society again without exploiting others to keep up their drug/alcohol habits. 

      • Anonymous

        These drug houses we call clinics are taking health money away from needy people.What most need is to be made to work 40 hours a week for the state instead of being paid to take drugs.

      • Anonymous

        Tom, In the past few months I have had occasion to deal with four different drug-related events. On three of those occasions I called the police.

         The fourth I probably should have but was too frightened and locked myself in my car and drove away. (suspected paranoid bath salt user bearing down on me) The last I found a backpack full of needles and a drugs on one of my properties. Burn kit.

         I am tired of living this way. I am tired of having my kids exposed to this trash. I am tired of paying for it. Drug crime in the Bangor area has grown exponentially with each new methadone clinic.

        We are at the point where we have 1,700 addicts being treated in the Bangor area. This is absolutely nuts for a population our size even if you throw in the population from surrounding areas. 

        The police believe there is a correlation between the number of addicts, the culture that breeds them and the number of Bath Salts users.

        Tom, We are building a drugged society not curing it. If it were just a few isolated cases I might agree with you. But it isn’t. My bet that when you give Sophie her fix and send her home you make illegal drug use more attractive to her friends.

        By your methodology with three Methadone clinics we should be able to clean Bangor up in a heart beat but that isn’t happening. It gets worse with every new clinic not the opposite.

        Call me a hater if you like… but I am willing to bet there are a bunch of elderly people who, through no fault of their own, are going to be going without care because of your misplaced compassion.  All you are doing with our limited resources is feeding the addiction.

        • Anonymous

          I would say that it would be safe to say that you and I do not agree on very many things, but in this case you are 100% correct. I grew up in Bangor and never once did I have any fear of walking the streets day or night. I don’t believe I could say that about my home town any longer and it is a shame. 

          • Anonymous

            Thanks. Appreciate the support.
            four events last 7 months.

            Incident number 1)  inadvertently witness Oxycontin deal in the open while walking through West Market Square

            number 2) Find white powdery substance in plastic zip lock bag near dumpster. Call police. Police recover it. I am later questioned by detective.

            Number 3) As I approached my parked car I notice a person that was talking to himself. I thought at first he was talking on cell phone. He charges me yelling “What are you looking at!!”  “What are you looking at!!” I jump into my car and drive off … for a few steps he follows me into the street after my car. No proof he was on Bath Salts but what is your best guess?

            Number 4) Neighbor locates backpack on my property loaded with drug equipment including needles.

    • Anonymous

      Cheese such compassion. You should be glad addicts are getting some help lest they come to your house to burglarize it or do a home invasion. Desperate people do desperate things. If you cut all funding to the poor and the addicts, they will find a way to survive, but rich Republicans and their homes might not like it.

      • Anonymous

        that would depend on whether i was home when they came to visit. it is still legal to defend yourself and your family. might solve the problem long term.

        • Wait… let me get this straight your arguing for killing people who break into your home as a solution to the long term budget? 

          • Anonymous

            Tom, Since my last experience with the druggies I have upgraded my locks and purchased a Mossberg. What you say isn’t happening because of treatment it is happening anyway. Burglaries are up, vandalism is up. We had a power outage in Bangor earlier this fall for about 45 minutes. The police were kept busy dealing with burglaries.

          • Anonymous

            Hi again Cheesey. I hope you had an enjoyable holiday season. As far as the police dealing with burglaries during the power outage I think most of what they had to deal with were burglar alarms that went off due to the power failure and inadequate back up batteries. 

          • Anonymous

            Not all were that according to conversations I had.

          • Guest

            You can’t see the logic of budsview…..  Heck I don’t have much, but what I do prize the most is my family.  So if someone comes  univited to my home, my best buddy, Ruger, will be the first to greet them….btw…. Ruger isn’t a dog.

          • Anonymous

            “Wait… let me get this straight your arguing for killing people who break into your home as a solution to the long term budget? 

            He sure is. 
            Some conservative values are just as bad as monkey duster’s … and unless  a conservative says  Bud’s( and reading ahead, Cheesecake’s, too), values are all screwed up, given their points plus  the conservative policies, why isn’t it fair to say all conservatives values are AFU’ed  ? 

            Remember,  the guys in the article aren’t really conservatives or even real Republicans, anymore. 

            Now, if they do not drink the TEA, and talk of killing “them sort of people” off, 
            the conservative final solution, they are just RINO’s, right ? 

            Are you a conservative and hate what I’m saying ? 
            Tell it to Bud, Cheeseckes and Polly LePage not me. 
            They, not I, presume to speak for you, for all conservatives. 

            But if the collective conservative YOU ( y’all) do not join me in speaking up against them, 
            the extremists, then you ARE condoning them, too, aren’t you ? 

      • Anonymous

        So to keep them from commiting crimes your answer is government drugs.Is that what dems are going to dish out now for votes.Standard entitlements just are not bringing in the votes anymore?.Blaming rich republicans for programs dems create and cannot fund.Always someone elses money with the dems.Guess what it has run out the progressives have spent it on stupid programs like passing out drugs to addicts and paying them mileage to get it.Do not preach about the poor and addicts dems in this state have been making poor and addicts for 30 years.Now we can not support all that the progressives created.

        • Anonymous

          The GOP running roughshod over the rest have led to things like drug use. Add in no jobs and financial ruin and you have a recipe for drug addiction. The shortsightedness of the GOP heartless cheerleaders is that without help to get off the drugs, these people will become more desperate and crimes like burglary and home invasion robberies will increase. If the Republicans weren’t so consumed with lowering taxes for the rich, we’d have enough revenues to deal with serious social problems that affect ALL OF US.

      • Anonymous

        That would be true but your misplaced compassion is growing the numbers.

        • Anonymous

          The numbers have grown due to your party’s tanking of the economy causing the hopelessness and depression and more drug users. 

          • Anonymous

            People are never responsible in your world are they? Whatever their problem it is really someone else’s fault. Right? Look plenty of people grow up poor and don’t turn out getting their unborn and born children addicted to methadone. Meth babies a regular part of the neonatal ICU. People like you facilitate them. Your false compassion is misplaced.

          • Anonymous

            Don’t talk to me about responsibility until you and your cohorts who irresponsibly elected Bush admit you blew it for all of us and don’t preach to me about compassion since you guys don’t even know what that word means.

          • Anonymous

            Oh druggies and meth babies are Bush’s fault!! Now I understand.

          • Anonymous

            You do…another Christmas miracle!

          • Anonymous

            :)

      • Anonymous

         Since my last experience with the druggies I have upgraded my locks
        and purchased a Mossberg. What you say isn’t happening because of
        treatment it is happening anyway.

    • What kind of society are we building?

      A sober one!

      {“patients of substance abuse treatment programs.” won’t be cut}

      “”{{PATIENTS}}””

      I know it’s hard for you to comprehend

    • Anonymous

      Just love all these people that call our governor names for cleaning up unfunded programs that the dems started. This type of programs is exactly what deems create from other peoples money. Time for a news flash other peoples money has run out. The dems have spent future budgets there is nothing left. And what is there answer witty little names for a man brave enough to put himself out there to try and clean up behind them. This is why there party is fading in Maine. Thank god the adults came in and are making the tough decisions.

    • Anonymous

      Chessecake, you come across as the ‘loser’.  So you really think that people get addicted so they can get food stamps, sec. 8 housing and free methodone for the rest of their lives?  You listen to WVOM too much.

      • Anonymous

        The sec 8 housing food stamps and free rides to the clinics happen after the addiction not before. Comprehension class is in order I guess.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, I agree about comprhension class.  The sooner you start, the better.  Obviously you do do not understand my posting nor what you originally posted.

          • Anonymous

            Pffttt!

          • Anonymous

            Pppfffttt!!!
            Right back at ya. 

            I’m no better than you. 
            See ? 

          • Anonymous

            I wasn’t Pppfffting you. ………Would you like me to?

          • Anonymous

            Erm, there is a joke in here somewhere…

            :)

          • Anonymous

            So, you do ”
            Pppffft ” at people. 
            Does who you make your vulgar, rude noises at  make rude sounds at matter , really?  

            But as you do it, do it more often, (and to me, sure).
            Show everyone what I know about your comments, please. 

            Have  a great day. 

  • cleanearth

    Let’s hope the sensible R.’s and D.’s can work together to come up with other cuts which need to be made.   Throwing elders out onto the street would be a sign of a truly barbaric society.  I hope we haven’t stooped that low.

    DHHS does need some weeding out.   When children are removed from a home, they should virtually always be placed with other family members, not strangers who take them in for the money.  This would also save money besides being less traumatic for the children. 

    One possible solution for single mothers with children who are on welfare would be to set up group homes so they wouldn’t all have to have separate houses or apartments.  Then they could share the household chores, including child care, so those with jobs could work and others could look for work without the huge expense of child care and household expenses.

    All would contribute to the housing’s costs from their earnings and some welfare monies would still probably be necessary – – but there would be only one house and utilities, etc., to support instead of several.

    • I LOVE the group home idea(needs a new name that one feels like it has bad connotations). Set up a large home of single low income parents. Solves a lot of cost issues, childcare and just general support to have others in your situation around. 

      • OldWench

        They have those already…they’re called the FLDS.  How about instead of assisting with rental payments assist with BUYING a home with the payments.  This will help people trying to sell their homes and the money paid out to help poor people will actually go towards providing a life long home for poor families.  A child care co op in communities could work providing the state provided background checks, training and supervision.

        If you’re going to look for solutions they should not be like an institutional setting.

        • It does not have to have an institutional feel. I am speaking to more of a 3 or 4 family building with each family having a couple bedrooms and the rest shared communal area. State owned. Need based rent. Possibly incentives for higher education. 

          • OldWench

            You clearly don’t understand women if you really think that would be something that would work.  Even sisters and mothers who love each other have a very difficult time trying to live together under the same roof as adults.  You want to try putting four unrelated complete strangers together in one home with God knows how many children, all likely with different parenting styles and beliefs, routines and habits and expect that to work?  And to share probably only two bathrooms? Bwahahahahahaha.

            Mmmmkay…

      • Anonymous

        I find it revolting that you and cleanearth find it acceptable to warehouse human beings in order to save a couple of bucks here and there. 

        • You absolutely miss read me.  State supported housing, with an organized support system (child care, counseling)  to help out single mothers is far from warehousing.  Possibly even setting it up as a temporary situation for single mothers while working on higher education. I believe much of the problems facing our society is the “do it your self” attitude.  I believe it would be cheeper and much more helpful to the families involved to have a communal building as opposed to “vouchers” for cheeper rent in some crap building with no other help and no idea who your neighbors are. 

  • Anonymous

    None of us are going to have to worry because our arrogance is going to have us go down the tubes with those whom have gone before. The slippery slope has been greased and we are on our way. Am some glad my faith is in God who hasn’t let me down yet and never will.

  • cleanearth

    You would throw elders who need care out onto the streets?  What’s your alternative?

  • Anonymous

    I am glad that there are a few Republicans left that can think. Following  The  Lame Penguin towards the Killer Whales, waiting for a meal, is not an option. In other words, Political Suicide.

    • Anonymous

      We currently do have a few Republicans that can think.  It’s such a relief after having 40 years of  nonthinking DemocRATS running the state.  They had such a bad case of “ceramic dog syndrome” that they spent us to the edge of oblivion.  The past administrations have driven businesses, taxpayers, educated graduates and retirees out of the state.  The hungry Killer Whales you mention are really just old dinosauers in disguise.

      BTW the ceramic dogs are the ones with their heads mounted on a little spring and they just keep nodding “yes”.

      • Anonymous

        This guy’s name is inappropriate and his comments are ridiculous, but I guess that’s what a “thinking” republican does.

  • Anonymous

    It will either be cut back or go bankrupt.  Then there will be nothing left got anyone.  Its a pretty simple solution.  Money only goes so far.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with some of the things that Le Page is doing.  I do think that he’s trying to add some fiscal responsibility into the mix.  State governments can’t operate in the red.  They can’t print money when they need it like the Federal government does.  There has to be cuts somewhere. That being said, his biggest problem, to me, is that he comes across as arrogant, caustic, and seems to be generally tactless.  It’s difficult to buy into him when he continually brushes people aside, especially the people who voted him in.

  • Anonymous

    This is what is needed in the state govt. Both sides working together for solutions. Le Page deserves credit for the excessive spending, but there are those who are between a “rock and a hard place” through no fault of their own. Especially the elderly. But, where is money being spent on “pork projects” that could help those in need? Augusta (Dems. and Republs.) know the answers, which has been on-going for decades.

  • Anonymous

    Enlightening to see a bipartisan effort to knock LeRage off his bully-pulpit for a change!

  • Anonymous

    If the sales tax went up and was dedicated to Maine Care, say 1%, could that cover the shortfall,?One  thing, we all pay including the summer tourist. A lot of states charge more in sales tax than Maine does. How about this, reduce the sales tax to 3% and tax everything, execpt medical care and drugs, to ifs and buts K.I.S.S   If the elected ones vote for the good of the people and the state and not follow party line things can be resolved.  REMEMBER YOU PEOPLE IN AUGUSTA YOU WORK FOR US WE DON’T WORK FOR YOU.

  • Anonymous

    i hope the article is wrong in saying that the cuts would effect 6000 people, at a cost of 60 million.

  • Anonymous

    I hear the rumbling and growling of an executive tantrum coming on.    There isn’t much of his plan that isn’t well thought out, now,  we’ll see who he’s gonna slam first, bet it won’t be as well thought out as well either.

    • Anonymous

      Remember back to the good old days when the Phone Company was referred to as “Ma Bell”. Every year or just about every year “Ma Bell” would present a rate increase to the PUC for around 15%. “Ma” never expected to receive her full 15% but knew that an increase of 5-9% would be granted.  “Ma” got the rate increase that she really wanted and the PUC could say that they were looking out for the interest of Maine Citizens by not granting the full request. A win for both “Ma” and the PUC. LePage is just taking a page from “Ma’s” book and asking for a lot more then he knew he could get.  By the way isn’t the “budget stabilization fund” another name for a savings account. If we are, as our radical right tea party friends claim, bankrupt how can we be putting money in a savings account? How if we are bankrupt can we provide a tax cut of $96 million to retirees? This is just more smoke and mirrors by the LePage Administration. It has been a year since LePage took office. Plenty of time to set in place the proper procedures to ferret out the much talked about fraud in the welfare system. Why haven’t we read about all of the supposed fraudsters being arrested and hauled into court? Granted there have been a few, but based on the rhetoric from the far right shouldn’t our court system be jammed with welfare fraud cases? If , as LePage claims , there is an overabundance of fraud in the welfare system let’s go after it and bring the crooks to justice. After we have done that then we can talk about tax cuts.

      • Anonymous

        It used to be called a “rainy day fund”.  (oh ..and to hell with Ma Bell, but her wicked step-children, specifically Fairpoint and Verizon are chips off the ole block).

        I kinda new the fund existed.    I think you are correct, he may have just been fishing to see how far he could go,  but a year long fishing trip isn’t good leadership nor has he caught any big ones.  Except of course Dolby, which is a Red Herring.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds as though Patrick Flood is more interested in compromising with the D’s, who would not do so if given a liberal vote for their perusal.  Why can’t the politicians forget about being re-elected and do what is right for Maine’s taxpayers!

    • Guest

      It sounds like Patrick Flood wants what is best for Mainers, which is really surprising for a republican I know.  That is probably where you got confused.

  • Anonymous

    Finally! Some one or ones have a set of brass ones and are not afraid to “use it”!  I don’t think that hacking the heck out Mainecare is going to help balance this budget.  I am with you when you saw we need to look at who and why people are on Mainecare in the first place.  I don’t think that “they” get to use the system to get healthcare, dental care etc, that “we” have to pay for out of our pockets!  I’ve heard many people say that “I came to Maine because they pay you better!” Hey, I have been out there busting my butt working, and what do I get after I had an injury????? Right now…a big fat ZERO!  “I’m over 50 so getting pregnant isn’t an option!”   Maine care needs to be “fixed” but not the way LePage wants to.

  • Anonymous

    “That is why he set aside $39 million in the budget stabilization fund that is available for the Legislature to use as they explore alternatives,” she said.

    So we’re broke because we are setting aside slush funds?  How about cutting the slush funds and putting that money back where it belongs.  Perhaps we wouldn’t be so broke after all.    

  • Anonymous

    Let LePage be LePage and close those nasty socialist liberal PMNIs.
    His Maine Heritage Policy Center bosses will be displeased if compassion and common sense thwart their Master Plan

  • Anonymous

    Governor, stick with Pat Flood and you won’t go wrong. Rep. Flood is man of brilliance and common sense who also has a lot of compassion for people. Unlike you Governor, he is not rude and crude and in my opinion, he would make a far better Governor.

  • Anonymous

    The state is facing a huge shortfall. This is not a new concept. Legislators have known about this shortfall for years. Now we have one guy who is trying to find somehow to cut spending, and balance the budget. I am amazed that so many comments here want to avoid cuts. This is very short sighted. 

    • Anonymous

      How are you so sure?  Did you know that there was a “budget stabilization” slush fund?  I sure didn’t and I would be curious to know how much is actually in it.  Democrats (and some brave republicans) have been saying all along this administration is playing fast and lose with the numbers and their numbers can’t be trusted.   We already know their words can’t be.   So we’re going to throw invalids and elderly (and their families) under the bus while  we sit on tens of millions of dollars (if not more!) in some political slush fund?   

      • Anonymous

        Actually, previous articles on this subject did mention that LePage was seeking some type of alternative living situation for people affected by the cuts. But that fact was not headline material, nor was it elaborated on by the reporter. I guess mean old LaPage trying to throw granny into the street  makes for better press than the complete, accurate story of a governor offering a plan and being open to ideas to help accomplish it without hurting the truly needy and vulnerable.

    • {The state is facing a huge shortfall Now we have one guy who is trying to find somehow to cut spending, and balance the budget.}

      Amazing!

      The first thing that he does is cut the Revenue!

      Brilliant!

      Absolutely,

      Brilliant!

    • Anonymous

       Yes, we need JOBS NOW!

  • Otis B. Driftwood

    It’s great that the legislative process should prevail sending a strong message to the bully in chief, that his mean spirited method of politics will not prevail.

    • Anonymous

      Apparently the guy is so ignorant that he didn’t realize he wasn’t going to become a dictator.  Someone forgot to tell him that he had two other branches of government he was going to have to share power with, along with the press.  This is exactly why some businessmen aren’t qualified to administer  a government branch.  They don’t get it.  Government doesn’t run like business, nor  should it.  Our governor needs a civics 101 lesson regarding the thinking of our founding fathers in that regard.   A King Paul wouldn’t do any better than a King George.  Or Louis.

  • Anonymous

    Too bad that we can’t just put everyone in Maine back to work and paying taxes. Then this would all be a moot point. Instead we have to take the low road and start slapping the horse out from under the needy to slash the budget. Raise revenue or cut expenses, the government is just as susceptible to the market forces of capitalism as any business, or individual. No one in either party can find their butt with either hand, so they break out the ax instead of the thinking cap. We need to quit sending dim wits to Washington and Augusta and expecting smart legislation or innovation. I think that we need a little flag waiving by our “public servants” encouraging everyone to buy more American made products. We need to eliminate our debts to foreign governments, especially communist ones. We need to balance our trade deficits and start putting the greater good of the nation ahead of the insane profits of a few. Turn “free” trade into fair trade and our problems would largely sort themselves out over night. Oh yeah, and bring home every soldier and close every base that is not on U.S. soil. Let the world police itself for a while. We have bigger fish to fry here at home, before we don’t have a home. 

  • Anonymous

    We will remember who is leaving the governor hanging out in the breeze on this one.   Is he the only one with the foresight, courage and fortitude to do the right thing?  No he is not a politician.  He is a business man trying to save a state that is going down for the third time.   He does not like this any better than the next man but someone has got to stand up and do the job even though it is unpleasant.
    Let’s get behind our governor and wish him well in putting our state back on the right track which will benefit all of us in the long run.   We were all poor growing up in this state just like LePage but we did not know it and pulled ourselves up by the boot straps to go on to a better  life.  

    • Anonymous

      I cannot see how taking more away from the elderly (YES, MORE) is a good choice for the people of Maine.   The elderly have lost enough already these past few years.  They get a $30 raise in their Social Security and their Foodstamps are reduced by $70; not to mention the COLD shoulder they are receiving from the government in replacement for heating assistance.  LEAVE THE ELDERLY ALONE!!!

      • Anonymous

        I stand firm  – get the ABUSERS off the system and there won’t be a shortfall!

        • Anonymous

          If we get the abusers off the system who is going to pay to addict the addicted to a new drug?  Where else can you get a leagal fix plus mileage?  They vote too, problably more than the tax paying voter.

      • Anonymous

        The state cannot control what the elderly get in Social Security benefits and food stamps. It can however take better care of how it administers its social programs. Many of these programs are outdated and need to be re-written to prevent people who are not truly needy from qualifying.

        • Anonymous

          That should be a gradual process. You don’t just pull the rug out from under the poor.

          • Anonymous

            No, the attempt at reform is not to pull the plug on the needy. It’s main purpose is to weed out those who can and should fend for themselves. And if they should but cannot fend for themselves immediately, they need to be taught how to. The state of Wisconsin under the leadership former Governor Thompson did just that and managed to get over half of the welfare recipients off the government payroll. The Wisconsin model is one well worth looking into.

    • Anonymous

      Enough with the “he is not a politician” talk. He was the mayor of Waterville and he is now the governor of the state. He IS a politician. Anyone who runs for elected office is a politician.

      He’s not a good politician, and that’s why he should never have been elected in the first place.

      Second, government is NOT a business. Politicians who know this or realize this once they get into government are the ones who succeed. Those who don’t fail.

  • Anonymous

    Adrienne Bennet gets on my nerves.

    • Anonymous

      Why, because she’s got common sense?

      • Anonymous

        She has none, she is a stupid mouthpiece. She is a rough “Guy”.

      • Anonymous

        No, because she’s an  @ss wiper who has to clean up the boss’s messes.  

        • Anonymous

          Your right and in addition to that she really is not the most courteous person. That is probally why they see eye to eye.

  • hasacluemaine

    Aw come on folks, have a heart, at $60 million for 6,000 people that translates to only $10,000 a person of taxpayer money a year. Have a heart and open your wallets. Selfish, selfish people.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, isn’t that terrible? Instead of cutting down the allotted amounts we should be getting rid of the half that doesn’t deserve taxpayer money.

  • Anonymous

    Wow.  Some wisdom and backbone among the House Rs.  Could be the light at the end of the tunnel (and not an oncoming train …).

    • Anonymous

      We conservatives are getting ready to get rid of all liberals, RINO’s included, not to mention most Democrats.

  • Anonymous

    Are they planning on putting the disabled and elderly in old army barracks? Maybe they can have them earn their crust of bread with manual labor.

    • Anonymous

      No, there’s plenty of gravy to spare in the various social programs without having to deny those who are truly in need. Kicking the can down the road like the governor’s predecessors did won’t work.

      • Anonymous

        GRAVY?

        The gravy must be on the RICE.

        I make good money and with the way prices are guess what not much gravy left to save after the bills.

        I have empathy for the least.

        • Anonymous

          I was obviously talking about misspent money on people addicted to government handouts.

      • Anonymous

        I hope his house in Florida is paid up.    He’s going to be kicking a can all the way down 95.

        • Anonymous

          No, the governor is determined not to kick the can down the road like prior governors have done. I think it can be done if the Democrats and RINO’s see that their past policies aren’t working in the people’s best interests.

    • Anonymous

      Will work set them free ? 

      • Anonymous

        No, they are too f…. poor.

        They are under his thumb.

        • Anonymous

          Remember the gate to the concentration camp that was stolen ? 
          It said that … in German. 

          See; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei

  • Anonymous

    Boycot Mardens until they take him back!

    • To late !

      They boycotted HIM!

  • Anonymous

    alot of providers stopped taking mainecare patients and dumping mainecare patients because of this issue 

  • I wonder how much taxes we would get if the state had 100 $ fee on wealthy summer houses. There are a ton of wealthy summer homes here why not have them pay more money

    • Anonymous

      Better yet, why not find ways to cut spending. It’s been tried before, but it proved to be all rhetoric. For a change we have a governor who is willing to do what his predecessors refused to do for lack of political will.

      • Anonymous

        Cut spending?….hmmm.   Now he is proposing creating more office’s and bureau’s.   He strong armed the legislature last session into buying into ownership, and liabilityship, of Dolby,  loaned the company money to start up,…..and supports a bill that would have the state pay for the management of it’s own landfill?

        Go figure

  • What planet are THEY from?

  • Anonymous

    So,no united opposition to the DEL cuts or what will kick the other 59,000 struggling Mainers in the teeth?I’ve worked for nursing homes and they are a license to print money.That powerful lobby has spoken up (Cough:May I see the envelope full of cash please?)and the rest of those people get screwed.Thanks Paul and everyone else for nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Somebody is missing something here. Where is this money coming from? To continue paying for these freebies. Maine can’t just print money like the government seems to. It’s not Dems or Reps. The fact is they have to agree on what to do with the money that Hard working Mainers are paying in in taxes now without a tax increase to them. 

    • Anonymous

      If the GOP and LePage had not cut income taxes – by 10’s of millions of dollars – they would not be forced, forced I say, to throw elderly widows and the disabled out in the cold cold  streets.

      This is a crisis that LePage and the GOP and the unelected and unaccountable Maine Heritage Policy Center manufactured. 

      They will reap what they sow on Election Day next November.

      yessah

    • Anonymous

      Regrettably the Dems. only solution to increasing costs and state spending is to raise taxes or continue borrowing, neither of which is acceptable.

      • Anonymous

        You really amaze me, with the non stop,  it’s always the Dems fault.   When,  for once, will you and your party both nationally and statewide accept your portion of responsibility?

        You whine and whine.  But since both former Presidents are out of office:  Bill Clinton’s rating is 66%….favorable   ..George Jr’s is 23%.   His father, who, which you often forget was landslided by Clinton, favorable percentage is much higher than his two term son’s.

        You don’t suppose, for one second……not one…..that the economy has had nothing to do with the increased strain on benefit requests?      And I mean by all benefit requests,   including corporate welfare.

        • Anonymous

          It looks like your looking for another interminable argument by going off topic, i.e. “Bill Clinton’s rating is 66%….favorable   ..George Jr’s is 23%….” . I was obviously referring to Maine Democrats. They want to raise taxes to solve the state’s financial problems.

          That said, it seems to me as though you perceive me as the enemy. Therefore, to make sure I don’t “win” the argument (because that seems to be what you’re primarily interested in) you ramble on an on and get picky. You want me to give you a “why” answer to a “why” answer to another “why” answer ad infinitum. I’ll give you one answer and maybe two, but don’t expect me to go any further. If you don’t like my answer, just don’t accept it like most mature adults do.

          As to whining, it looks to me like you’re the one that is doing it.

  • Anonymous

    Democratic propoganda at it’s best. The lead house democrat that help kick this can down the road is what this article really says.

  • Anonymous

    I am reminded of that line in the Wizard of Oz song “If I only had a brain, a heart, the nerve!”  Well, one out of three ain’t a complete wash.  It is sad to say there are those thinking that Big Paulie’s plan is okay, as long as they get their $12 to $20 a week tax break.  I’m using the same source of financial information as the state planning office (rhymes with “Da Blew”)

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like there’s a schism in the state GOP party. I wonder if LePage is going to get the word he should step down after one term and let a real leader have a chance at bat. 

    • Anonymous

      It’s very possible there’s a schism between the RINO’s and those who adhere to the Republican plank of small government, lower taxes, etc. Eventually nearly everyone will recognize that non-adherence to the party plank will lead the state into much, much worse financial disaster then it’s in.

      • Anonymous

        “…RINO’s and those who adhere to the Republican plank…”Or, to put it anther way, “the minority”.

      • Anonymous

        Does the republican party plank you mention include violating a Federal Court order? That is exactly what the AMHI consent decree is and if it is violated then the cost to the State of Maine could far outweigh any savings that might be realized. 

  • Anonymous

    ok so where is the money coming from?

  • Anonymous

    ok, so where is the money coming from?

  • Anonymous

    No suprise that Republicans in Maine won’t stand up with Lepage to stop the over spending. Afterall, they rely on liberals to elect them. Not a lot of difference between liberals and most Maine Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Few of these are conservatives, many are merely republican.

  • Anonymous

    This is an election year.  Does anyone think that the lawmakers in Augusta or Washington want to lose their plush jobs by voting to quit giving everything to a bunch of voters?  No one  wants to do anything except buy votes.  Too bad that only people that PAY income tax could vote.  Maybe things would go back to where people were independent.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah  – we need to go back to the Good ol’  Days when only free white male landowners could vote.  

      Tea Party 4  Evah

      not

    • Anonymous

      I am sure there is a third world country that people with your values would be welcome, You should consider moving there. The Nazi party in Germany would have adored you, but you are a little late for them, good luck in your search though, The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is just not a good place for folks like you.

  • Backed into a corner, the republicans, as usual refused to fight for what they believe in. Why??? Because they know it will cost them elections. They are a cowardly bunch.

  • Anonymous

    I think it is time to introduce legislation that would allow the recall of this and/or future Governors.

    • Anonymous

      There was a proposal for a Gubernatorial recall either last spring or in the most recent sesssion, but the Republicans blocked it from seeing the light of day. were they worried?! Too bad because there  may be a future Democrat who may try to beat LePage’s record for lying and all-around buffoonery. Guess they believe it’s a record that will stand indefinitely. I couldn’t abide Baldacci, but he looks like Honest Abe in comparison. I have never voted a straight ticket based on party lines, but until the Republican politicians stop supporting the extremists and nut cases, I will vote for none of them, including those that I have supported in the past, many of whom I know and personaly like.

  • Why is the State GOP pulling back from LePage? It’s easy. They took one look at where LePage’s cuts were heading and read the writing on the wall. The minute anyone who’s served by the current MaineCare system winds up either dead or in a County jail simply because their health issue causes them to be locked up in lieu of treatment is gonna windup being the poster child to run againt LePage. And the State GOP knows it too ! They see the writing on the national wall as far as the GOP Candidates go. The minute any of them open their mouth about the cutting of the current Health Care system they’re be on the 1st train outta’ Augusta come the next election cycle

  • Anonymous

    Why is it Mainecare will run out of money April 1st? Did the Democrats leave this state in that dire shape when Lepage and the Republicans took over?

    • Anonymous

      No – George W. Bush and the GOP Congress crashed the nation’s and Maine’s economy – and  dried up state and federal tax revenue.

      Then, LePage and the GOP – under the influence of the  unelected and unaccountable Maine Heritage Policy Center – cut state income taxes by more than $100 million.

      and then Viola (sic) – we  got ourselves a “crisis” at DHHS.

      First it was a $30 million “crisis”!

      Then it was a $60 million “crisis”!!

      Then it was a $125 million “crisis”!!!

      Now it’s a $220 million “crisis”!!!!

      Where will it end!!!!

      and now LePage and his cronies  are forced, forced I say to throw  Grandma  and the severely disabled out in the street.

      Where the Tea Party sez they belong.

      See how this works?

  • Anonymous

    The health care system here in Maine needs to be fixed. As a working taxpaying citizen in the State of Maine my co pay went up from 3,000 a year to 5,000 when Maine care people pay zip. Why are we being called selfish.

    • Anonymous

      If Maine had a Single Payer Universal Health Care System – like the rest of the Well Educated Democratic Industrial Economies – that enjoy better health care than the US of A – you would not have to endure the increases in co-pays that the for-profit insurance industry (protected by the GOP) forces you to pay.

      Vote GOP – vote against your economic best interests.

      yessah

      • Anonymous

        “Canadians can expect to live longer than their U.S. counterparts, despite the fact that both were once nations of heavy smokers, and currently have high levels of obesity, new research shows.”

        “Life expectancy is a basic measure of the quality of health care. In the U.S., a citizen will live 77.8 years on average. In Canada, you can expect to live two and a half years longer (80.4 years). Infant mortality is also a vital indicator of health care. In the United States, 6.37 infants die out of every 1,000. In Canada the number is 5.4 out of a 1,000.”

        • Every Canadian I have talked to supports their system. It is only US citizens I have heard bashing it. One Canadian put it, “If I wanted plastic surgery or some other cosmetic medical procedure, I would have to wait, sometimes a few years. If I am seriously injured in a car crash, I receive immediate assistance and get out of the hospital with no bills.” Americans are too impatient to wait for their liposuction.

      • Anonymous

        A socialistic system you advocate would surely bring an end to this country as we know it.

        • How? To everyone that says that. Please explain how a single payer healthcare system would “bring an end to this country as we know it.”  What would happen? 

          • Anonymous

            Liberals are not happy much. As soon as they get one issue they want, its off to the rodeo on another. Look at Europe, with their generous health, work week and time off. No wonder they are in trouble. Socialism has been continually tried and always failed and we are on the cusp of another full blown try. Whatever happened to the war on drugs, crime, and oh yes, poverty? The Great Society? Get off small business’s back and go to work.

          • Wow. So to start off with you did not address how single payer health care would ruin this nation. You gave some odd slippery slope argument that seems to imply single payer health care would not be bad, but what “liberals” asked for after that was the bad news and lead to socialism. 

            Please explain how single payer health care would ruin your or my life?  Can you? Or do you just prefer baseless boogie men?
            Second the War on Drugs was started by the  GOP hero Reagan.  It is also the right side of that most often pushes for harsher sentencing laws. Also, if you take a quick look at crime statistics, crime is in general going down sense the 70s. Single payer health care would be a MASSIVE boon to small business. Many small businesses cannot afford to provide health care to their employees because they do not have the bargaining power to cut deals with the insurance companies. Thus they have less healthy employees and have trouble recruiting  and retaining employees. 

          • Anonymous

            You are delusional. My point was governmental control and off you go espousing more.Government is my problem and it is run by only two parties who love the status quo.The answer to the health care system is to get insurance companies and the government out of it. Why should they make a profit? Or am I not allowed an opinion?

          • Your very much entitled to your opinion but I am just pointing out it is a bit irrational and not evidence based.  You also stated several incorrect facts and still have not addressed my question. So what exactly are you proposing? Banning health insurance? 

          • Also, exactly what did I state that is delusional? Your argument is some slippery slope argument with out any evidence. 

  • Anonymous

    Leave the elderly alone.
    When your on the inside its so easy. They just need to cut the crap.
    Individual servings inside Riverview. Never a large tray and a handful of chips for everyone. Everyone gets an individual bag or  4ounce yogurt or pudding.  No institution serves from a large container anymore. The waste in these facilities pile up.

    4 bed facility same thing. I’ve worked in and out of them.  Everyone gets single packaged items all day long. Easy for calorie count because staff doesn’t know how to count calories. A large bag of chips alot less expensive or a large applesauce and dish it out. Just about everything is single serving and disposable.

    Over the counter medication same thing. Name brand Tylenol, Advil and Aleve. You and I probably use generic. Not most of the mentally ill because the doctor’s orders are for the name brand and the CRMA can only pass what the doctor orders. Once a year the doctor writes up standing orders for group homes and these are all name brand items. Right down to vaseline and neutrogena. Depending on your doctor. Many doctors like to spend state money.

    If a patient with a mental handicap needs a procedure done its a repeated step process. 1st there has to be an appointment with the doctor made for say a boil. Then the doctor says he wants to remove the boil. Then there is a second appointment made. He goes home and gets a note from him guardian to get it removed. Even if the doctor can remove it that day it can’t be done. The doctor stands there saying why can’t I remove it today? Because, there has to be another appointment! Waste of money! This should have been decided before first appointment, guardian should be made to go or should send approval with patient, why should state money be wasted?  I’ve seen 4 appointments before treatment granted; due to lack of communication. The doctor had to call guardian. This is our waste problem.

    • Anonymous

      they use these things, because it is cheaper, then paying someone to put it in dishes. It’s cheaper to throw prepackaged food containers out then it is to pay someone to wash the dishes. Hell it’s cheaper then buying dishes.

      • Anonymous

        I had foster children living with us for awhile plus our 5 children. We couldn’t afford disposable single use prepackaged foods. We didn’t throw away our dishes we washed them. In group homes with 4 bedrooms, I would think it would be much cheaper to wash the dishes then throw away prepacked food containers. Even 6 bedroom facilities. The staff could wash dishes instead of playing cards or watching television. There is no need to hire a special dish washer. Many residents are also very capable of doing dishes and enjoy doing them, its self-esteem building to be able to help care for their own home.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t normally weigh in with the governor, but in this case…..I have to support his cuts.  There is only so much money.  Increasing taxes is the only way to keep support levels current.  People can’t afford more taxes….end of story.

    Taking young people without children out of the support system is not exactly what anyone wants to do, but with only so much money…..something has to give.

    At least the governor has the guts to come out and say it like it is.  We have all cut our discretionary spending.  Times are hard, prices are high, and wages are stagnant.  We cannot afford Cadillac services anymore, we are going to have to downsize to a Chevy.

    I am astounded that the Republicans in Maine aren’t for a sound fiscal budget.  It’s hard to see who is a Democrat and who is a Republican anymore, they both have their hands in the taxpayers pocket.

    I don’t think the governor likes doing any of this, but he must be a careful steward of the taxes of Maine.  We are a poor state, but have care programs better than the rich states.

    • Anonymous

      LePage wants to put 6000  elderly and severely disabled Maine citizens out in the street because he cut income taxes by more than $100 million. 

      He doesn’t care.

      How many Tea Partiers will volunteer to take these folks into their homes – to feed and care for them out of their compassionate conservatism??

      none

      • Anonymous

        It’s time for the families of these people to step up to the plate.  Multi-generational families were the rule until about 50 years ago.  That is what families are for.   The state just can’t afford it.  Believe me, it is not what I want, but what we must do.

        I cared for my elderly father for 10 years before he passed away.  Families should’t be so selfish and do the same thing for their elderly.  Most of the mental patients have drug issues, and that is not a real  illness, but a lifestyle choice.

        • Anonymous

          So, you are going to take these people in?

          • Guest

            That’s the exact mindset that got us into this mess “these people” as you call them, shouldn’t be the responsibility of their families, is that what you are saying?

          • Anonymous

            So – I was right – no compassionate conservatives will step up and take these people in.

            Perhaps there’s a spare room in the Blaine House?

      • Anonymous

        If you read the article than you would realize your statement is inaccurate.

  • Anonymous

    Rats always have, and always will desert a sinking ship. They never swim far away though, just in case the ship starts to float again. 

  • The way the State reimbursed providers of PNMI services allowed these providers to make a profit, in spite of it being a cost settled program. They would put in  a cost cap, but then allowed an administrative allowance on the sales tax paid of 35% that did not go against the cap. This sales tax was not just on the Mainecare funding, but the “value” of the PNMI services, so in effect the State taxed food stamps, donatations, and even the rent payments made by the people supported. Yes, then the provider got 35% of that. The PNMI’s should be closed and a different model put into place that does not create profits. The people supported need supports of some kind, they just need to be more economical and not a profit center.

  • Anonymous

    uh-oh…you guys are gonna get yelled at by LIEpage and painted as traitorous dogs by the Maine Heritage goons…

  • Anonymous

    Surely a breath of some kind of air, but  fresh is not necessarily an accurate descriptor.

  • Anonymous

    Here comes another smoke screen. Look behind you everyone, something else is sliding by that benifits the lawmakers. (I think).

  • Anonymous

    See comment above (duplicate)

  • Anonymous

    You don’t need to cut funding.  You just need to change the eligibility guidelines so that they are the same whether it’s nursing home, boarding home or at-home waiver services.  Right now, we have millionaires in nursing homes on Medicaid.  And lawyers who know their way around Medicaid laws to get the State to pay for these people.  They are able to turn their annuities into monthly, $15K payments to their spouse at home and still have the State pay for them to be in a nursing home.  THAT is the crime here!

  • Anonymous

    Not surprising, really. No responsible poilitican (e.g. one who wants to be re-elected) would go along with cuts like this–it would have affected too many people, too deeply.

  • Guest

    No matter what the cause, manipulation, bluff, chicken game…Its about time some one lit a firecracker under the rears to get things moving in the right direction!

  • Anonymous

    Seems like folks are doing their job. If matching funds for PNMI’s are at risk and reform is needed and the legislature and the governor work to resolve things then that’s how it should be. Things can’t go on as the were and Rep Martin is more interested in attacking than resolving. He helped create the crisis in the first place and now he expects to take the high road by undermining efforts to rectify the mess?

  • The real problems in Maine that should be addressed instead of this stupid, cruel stuff:  lack of protection for child victims of crimes, repeat sex offenders, bath salts problem,  NO JOBS, and the ridiculous price of heating oil.  Does he really have any clue what is going on in this state?

  • Anonymous

    Everything Lepage initiates seems to run awry…why is that?

  • Anonymous

    Poor editing job by the left leaning BDN for saying Republicans elect not to support…..impying all republicans will not support. This is a perfect example of what the Wall Street Journal editorial yesterday warned all voters in the coming year about  the slants the journalists will be taking to hood wink the electorate. Prime example of deceit by the BDN.

  • So we try to just limit this to the scammers… Lets see there are 65,000 people that could be affected, so at 100 cases per investigator/case worker we need 650 people hired to look into fraud. The case workers we have now are too busy trying to keep up with their case loads as it is so we have to hire new. So 650 new case workers at say… $32,000 a year? That is $20,800,000.00 plus mileage, Maine is after all very rural. So just like the claim of voter fraud, we will more than likely find that there are few frauds on Maine Care. There is no percentage in it, it’s heath care, not TANF, so the only time expenses are paid is when someone goes to the doctor or gets a prescription. Do I believe there are people who have Maine Care that no longer qualify, yes, do i feel the majority of the 65,000 are, no. So we have spent almost $21 million to find out we can trim lets say 10% of the 65,000. So there is no savings in doing things right, therefore we will kick everyone off. Fraud isn’t of interest to LePage, cuts are. He is a Republican and true to form when we need to cut costs, its schools and the poor who get cut first. Will cutting 65,000 people off Maine Care save the state money? Yes, most certainly, for now anyway. 3 years from now however, not so much. Those 65,000 people are not going to stop going to the doctor. The difference is now, no one is getting paid for those services. So hospitals and doctors have to charge insurance companies more, which leads to higher premiums for those who buy health insurance. Those who buy it and can’t afford the premium increases will drop their coverage. They too will not stop getting sick and will continue to seek medical attention… the cycle continues on and on so in 5 to 10 years hospitals are shutting down, doctors will be  joining Maine’s young people and heading out of state… Will these cuts make the states budget look good this year and next, it sure will, but at what cost to the future?

  • Anonymous

    I read this and then I read about the lawmakers who vote to fund organizations exactly like the ones discussed here. I, therefore, cannot help but wonder just who the opponents are and if they stand to personally lose financially were this to pass as written.  I do not dispute that a service is being provided but I do question just who the players are and whose ox is actually being gored.  The ones caught in the middle are those who depend on such services.  I do object to lawmakers voting public money which benefits themselves directly as they should definitely recuse themselves from direct involvement in the process.  That is highly unethical even if it is legal.  After-all, who writes and votes on the laws? 

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