Comments for: Gun protesters target Scarborough Cabela’s against backdrop of firearms debate

Posted Dec. 21, 2012, at 1:36 p.m.
Last modified Dec. 21, 2012, at 1:53 p.m.

SCARBOROUGH | A small group of demonstrators weathered morning rains and a largely negative reaction outside Maine’s only Cabela’s store Friday morning, where they protested the hunting gear retailer’s decision thus far to continue selling firearms like those used in the recent elementary school shooting in Connecticut. A group …

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  • Anonymous

    The anti-gun crowd wont like that photo of the kid with a fake gun….

    • Lazerus Phoenix

      So what!

      • Anonymous

        I cant wait for the comments condeming this photo.

        • Lazerus Phoenix

          Something akin to “You’ll soot your eye out, kid!”

  • Anonymous

    Go home freaks

  • Anonymous

    A whole story for “about five” protesters outside Cabela’s? I could pack my immediate family up and go down in support of our second amendment rights and outdo that.

    • Anonymous

      But the lame-stream media, including our major Maine newspapers would not cover you, because you do not fit their agenda to disarm America.

      • Anonymous

        Just as delusional as the head of NRA.

        • Anonymous

          typical lib. blinded by your “progressive” leaders talking points. learn to think for yourself or follow them over the cliff.

        • Lazerus Phoenix

          Not at all! I contacted the BDN about a shoot at our club. We don’t even use live ammo, but they refused to even acknowledge the email!

          BDN is as far Radical Leftist as you can get, as are a lot of the usual posters, you included!

          • Anonymous

            the BDN is getting pretty thin, their liberal views are drying up advertising. i am not renewing my subscription after the daily dose of anti-gun editorials this week.

          • Lazerus Phoenix

            The only thing the BDN paper is good for is housebreaking the new puppy!

    • Anonymous

      Go ahead. demonstrating in front of Dick’s and WalMart too?

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        I didn’t see any! Maybe in your make-believe world! We know you Libs only see what you believe!

    • Anonymous

      i doubt any of the ‘protesters’ have ever set foot inside Cabela’s

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        Probably the LL Bean, Izod crowd!

  • I’ll stay with what George Washington said….

    “Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the
    American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour
    the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove
    that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally
    indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil
    interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
    George
    Washington
    First President of the United States

    • Anonymous

      Then for goodness sake, in order to see them as Washington saw things in a world without professional police and other public security organizations, let us return to those days of yesteryear where an armed citizen might own a heavy single shot flintlock or two. That might work. Were the man alive today, do you think he’d have such a view?

      • Bright

        That might work if everyone was limited, not just law abiding citizens. How silly to think they’d not support equal arms for citizens and government. Look no further than Syria, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, etc to see how “unarmed” citizens stand up to oppressive governments. While that may not happen here anytime soon, it is exactly that principle.

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        YES!

  • Anonymous

    The handful of times I’ve been in (not recently), not 10 seconds went by where some kid somewhere in the store wasn’t going pop-pop-pop-pop with one of those infernal things. Yeah they’re harmless, but quickly get annoying as heck. I feel bad for people who work there, with respect to that ‘environmental’ aspect.

  • I like that they blame the weather for the lack of support. Could it be that the vast majority dont agree with them? Yup

    • Anonymous

      Run your own poll. Accurately. Check back with the answers.

      • Looks like i am. Three for, one against

  • Anonymous

    Lot of class from the gun rights (and buyers) crowd, but what did I expect.

    • Anonymous

      From what I’ve seen on the Brady Campaign and Coalition to Stop Gun Violence pages on FB the anti-gunner’s haven’t exactly been setting a high standard for class. Both sides have let emotion take over and it’s leading to nothing really getting accomplished and no dialog taking place. Apparently, from a few people I’ve seen family members have actually stopped speaking to one another. Sad that this is so divisive while at the same time it’s only a small part of the problem.

    • Anonymous

      Banning certain weapon types didn’t work in the past, and it won’t work today. Oh, I’m sure that laws will be made because of what just took place. Laws that the governement knows when they are enacted that they can’t and won’t be enforced. But it makes us feel better, and doesn’t do a bit of good. Enact a ban, and black market weapons become a hot item just like they are in countries were, it’s illegal for private citizens to own weapons. There are an estimated 300 million weapons in this country. And I’m not in saying that’s not a problem. But, where exactly do you intend on starting? How will you figure out who has weapons and who doesn’t? How do you know where to look for weapons that are suddenly illegal? Do you randomly search people’s private homes looking for illegal weapons? Do you arrest violators? Do you confiscate those weapons, and if so what do you do with them? How are you going to stop the black market trade that will start up? Do you plan on clogging up the court system even worse than it is with firearm offenders? At what cost to the taxpayer are you willing to go to solve this problem? I would submit to you sir, that my questions need tobe answered before we as the saying goes, “Go off half cocked.” Americans take their individual rights very seriously. We just saw that with the gay marriage vote. You start trying to take what people consider to be legally bought and owned private property away from them, you are going to have an even bigger issue than gun violence on your hands.

    • Lazerus Phoenix

      No class whatsoever from the anti-gun lunatics! But we NEVER expect rational thinking or behavior from them!

      We were not the ones jumping for joy at the massacre because we could pimp it to advance our agenda!

      THEY are the reason the Second Amendment exists at all! It’s not to protect us from a tyrannical government, it’s there to protect us from Left-wing nut-jobs taking control of the government!

  • Rocky4

    The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun
    is a good guy with a gun.
    W. LaPierre

    • maineiac123

      That is such crap.

      • Bright

        So simple it’s really unquestionable. I don’t agree with armed people in schools, but the first part is spot on.

      • Anonymous

        Really….

        After locking up, a female employee of Cakes and Confections 4U was leaving the business through a back door when she realized she was cornered by two strange men. One man struck her in the jaw while the other ripped off her necklace and earrings. When the men then attempted to sexually assault the woman, she produced a concealed .32 cal. firearm from her waistband and fired. Both men immediately dropped the stolen jewelry and ran. It was last reported that the assailants were still at large. After the incident, the woman said her firearm saved her life and that she had a strong message to all women, “If you don’t have a gun or you’re scared of guns, get familiar with them and get a gun.” (FOX Carolina 21, Landrum, SC, 8/29/12)

        Scott Stith was in his bedroom when he heard a loud crash coming from the first floor of his home. He grabbed his .45 cal. pistol and crept
        downstairs to investigate. He spotted the silhouette of a man, but did
        not fire because he had teenage sons in the house and was not 100
        percent sure of his target. He called out only to discover the man was
        an intruder who had broken through the glass of the back door. Stith
        held the 29-year-old intruder at gunpoint until police arrived. Everyone
        involved was reportedly unharmed. (Sandusky Register., Milan, OH, 9/29/12)

        Just before 2 a.m., a 25-year-old man shot another man in the head at Bonnie’s Food and Spirits after he was asked to leave. He then fatally shot another customer outside the pub. When he pointed his pistol at Mark Ktytor, however, Ktytor produced his own firearm and fired multiple rounds, leaving the assailant in critical condition. The suspect will be charged with criminal homicide and attempted homicide upon his release from the hospital. (The Times-Tribune, Plymouth, PA, 9/11/12)

        Two armed men stormed into a Dollar General store one evening and attempted to rob it. While the men held the store manager at gunpoint, a 57-year-old man carrying a concealed .45 cal. handgun, who had been shopping at the store at the time of the robbery, took action. The customer did not hesitate to draw his gun and fire at the suspects. One of the men robbing the store suffered fatal wounds to the head, chest and shoulder. The second suspect fled, but was later caught and charged with robbery and felony murder. There were reportedly no other injuries. (The Florida Times-Union, Jacksonville, FL, 8/29/12)

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        How do most shooting stop then? With the shooter surrendering? NO! With the shooter either shooting himself, or someone else shooting him!

        Either way, it took a gun to stop it! The only crap is Liberals refusing to admit the obvious, so we all suffer!

  • Lazerus Phoenix

    “A group of about five people……” How pathetic is that! Leftist need to get it through their thick skulls that they will NEVER win on this issue!

    Sure, obozo can enact all kinds of feel-good, useless, inane and/or stupid legislation because he’s ecstatic all those kids were killed and he has to play to his base, but everything he does will get overturned as soon as he’s out of office!

    You Leftist/Socialists may hold what you think is the power now, but it will be fleeting! The farther Left you push the country, the farther RIGHT we will move it! You have 4 years, then we return to normalcy!

    I never even thought about getting an assault type rife before all you blood-craving lunatics started screeching in glee over the chance to advance your agenda! You convinced me, so I bought one today! And some high capacity mags too!!!!

    Thanks to you, in only one weeks time, there are millions more of your spooky rifles on the streets! Well done!!!

    • maineiac123

      And it shows just how dangerous people like you are. You got pissed off so you went out and bought a gun that no one needs to own. What’s next? Are you going to get pissed off and start using that gun? The only blood-crafing lunatics I see are people like you.

      • Bright

        Having the government decide what people need is a slippery slope. I say people don’t need tobacco products, we know they kill and we all pay the price, financially and with our health. The same is being said of trans-fatty foods, super sized sodas, alcohol, you name it.

        • maineiac123

          Ahh so you don’t want the goverment decide on what people need. I assume because the constitution guarantees you the right to bear arms. That then should obviously without limits since there are no limits mentioned in the constitution. So .50 cal machine guns are fine as is child porn because there is no restriction to freeom of the press either.

          • Bright

            Strawman.

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        You shopped beside me at the store, and you were not afraid of me!
        I stood behind you in line at the bank, and you were not afraid of me!
        I pumped gas beside you, and you were not afraid of me!
        You even engaged me about the weather, and were not afraid of me!
        I was ‘armed to the teeth’ all those times, as I always am, yet you were not afraid of me at all!

        Now, all of a sudden, you are afraid? How ridiculous is that! What you mean is, what you don’t know can’t scare you!!!!!!!

        I’m not pissed off at all, I’m saddened that so many refuse to admit (or even see) reality! YOU should be mad! YOU are the ones that prompted me and MILLIONS OF OTHERS into action! Of course it was just the OPPOSITE action you wanted – and THAT pisses you off!

        Your actions and bluster always backfire, but that never stops you! You want spooky guns gone, so you screech about them to the point that millions more are sold IN ONE WEEK! Well done!

        But please enlighten me, what is a ‘blood-crafing’ lunatic? How can you argue a point if you have no idea what you are saying?

    • Anonymous

      Paranoid pipsqueaks like you should be put away before you assault the Capitol.

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        Ha! Pipsqueak! Is that the best you can do? No wonder you guys are so pathetic!

        I have a complete security system! Then I have two 185+ lb dogs! I only get to shoot whatever they don’t rip to shreds and eat!

        As for you and you fellow comrades – you are on your own! I would not endanger my life to save yours! You want to live gun free, then you can die gun free!

        Too bad senility comes with being elderly!

  • Anonymous

    How would it harm our rights if we prohibited sales without background checks.
    It might be a bit inconvenient but hey, that’s not much against human lives.

    • Xerxies

      That’s not a problem for most constitutionalists. The problem is when they start telling us that they are going to ban whole cross-sections of firearms and/or magazine capacities, because of some stupid determination that only certain kinds of guns are used by criminals and nutcases, and if we take them away from law abiding citizens the criminals will not use them anymore. This is not, and never has been the case. We are an armed populace, we will always be an armed populace, it’s part of being an American, as much as Apple Pie and Old Glory. We are armed because our forefathers were very much aware, from their own personal experiences, of the oppression an unrestricted government can inflict upon it’s citizens when the citizenry has no recourse. Many of us still believe in the principles that founded this great nation. It’s unfortunate that many citizens are so prone to instinctual, knee jerk, and I might add completely useless instinctive legislation. We are thinking beings, use your heads!

      • maineiac123

        Yes, I wish the gun advocates like you would use your heads but the response seems to be the typical NRA knee-jerk garbage. There is not logical reason whatsoever for people to have these guns, they not for hunting, they’re simply for killing people. Can other guns be used? Of course they can and will, but you stand a much better chance of fewer deaths with a gun that needs to be reloaded after 7 shots than one that needs it after 15.

        • Bright

          First let’s agree all guns are for killing. None will kill animals and not humans. Every single one is lethal and should be treated as such. Now, with very little training, reloading 5 or 7 rounds can be done in seconds. In the cases of nearly all the mass shootings the killer carried multiple guns, thus reloads would not have slowed a shooter enough for an unarmed person to make a move. Military looking firearms that are for sale to the law abiding public share many characteristics with actual military weapons save for the fully automatic action (actual spray and pray). The military buys these not for their destructive power as all the sensationalized articles indicate, but in fact to balance the reliability, modularity, and lightweight of the ammunition allowing soldiers to carry more ammo into the fight requiring less resupply missions. The 5.56 NATO or .223 is a relative wimp compared to most common hunting cartridges that all have more knockdown power, range and accuracy.

          These semi-auto versions of the military firearms are the perfect home defense and hunting rifle for many varmints and small game. They’re lightweight, easily adjustable to different sized shooters within a minute, the ammo is cheap allowing hours of cheap target practice, and their modular mounting systems allow numerous accessories to be added with no special tools or knowledge. In a home defense situation the relative high energy of the bullet actually causes it to break apart when it strikes walls on objects at close range, thus less dangerous within the confines of a home than shotguns or handguns. Handguns are extremely hard to shoot accurately in high stress situation without extensive training and even then the hits to misses ratio is poor (see FBI stats on police shooting incidents). A rifle is very easy to point and shoot accurately at close range, add a flashlight with a push button and you can easily defend yourself or family far better than most with handguns or shotguns. And like nearly all firearms instructors will tell you, you fire until you’re certain the threat is over. Reloading after shooting 5 rounds in your kitchen at 3 a.m. may not be an option, certainly not one I’d be willing to stake my family’s life on. It’s not like all scumbags break and enter on their own, or we can rely on the police to be there in time.

          • maineiac123

            Yep after you shoot those nasty villians in your house and turn the lights on only to find you killed your children. What then? Yes guns are for killing period. As for calling these things the perfect home defense you can continue with your hysteria, I’ll find other ways of protecting myself. Maybe I’ll get a .50 cal machine gun. That should do the trick.

          • Bright

            Good luck with your defenses. I’ll take my chances with my defense system, and hopefully neither of us will ever test the systems.

          • Bright

            Would my kids be any less dead if I shot them with a pump action shotgun, a revolver or lever action rifle? Your ignorance speaks volumes. I guess I couldn’t live with myself if I cowered in my bedroom while my family was attacked, but I’m not you either.

          • maineiac123

            No, I have a brain and don’t have to prove my “manhood” by using guns. But then again, I’m not you.

          • Anonymous

            So someone breaks into your house with the intent to rape your wife, girlfriend or daughter? Since they intend to force submission they are armed. You choose to defend your family how?

          • Anonymous

            Mainiac is going to throw a pillow at them…LOL

          • Lazerus Phoenix

            He’s under his mother’s bed, hiding!

          • Lazerus Phoenix

            the first sign of a feebly small mind is resorting to insults instead of rational debate!

            On that account, we all see where you fall!!!

    • Bright

      This is completely reasonable. Add in complete registration of every firearm, period. All firearms stolen or missing must be reported as soon as this is known and if this time is too extended the owner should be charged for failing to ensure their safety in a reasonable manner. None of these things should have a negative effect on law abiding firearms owners. We can have true accountability without harming any law abiding citizens rights.

      • Anonymous

        Not a chance you’re going to get registration.passed and even if you did many people wouldn’t do it.

        • Bright

          Really, the next step that’s gaining momentum is another ban. When (not if) that fails to work, guess what’s next? What’s the issue with registration? Irrational fear of the government?

          • Anonymous

            Oh I agree the anti-gun crowd is going after another ban but what is that really accomplishing? Look up what the 1994 ban actually did. All it did was regulate what the firearms looked like. No flash suppressor, no barrel shroud, no folding or collapsible stock. It had nothing to do with how the firearm operated and as such you can still get versions of it in California though they look different. If you want to call that a win go ahead I suppose but it’s still not doing anything to actually solve actual problem. It’ll be nothing more than an emotional response to an extreme circumstance. Kinda like we did with the Patriot Act after 911, though that had much more long lasting implications that an AWB will.
            The issue with registration is people don’t want their government in their homes where it revolves around a Constitutional issue. It would be perceived as a first step to confiscation and people would not report what they have. It’s a fact. As for irrational fear of the government. It’s only irrational if it’s proven that it’s not true.

          • Anonymous

            You are correct, it was a joke, no bayonet lug, who cares about that…

  • Anonymous

    Mental health records for all have to be available for background checks. Add a paragraph to the paper we sign when we buy a gun authorizing a medical records check. Drs. would have to submit to the State any mental problem and the State submit to the Feds. This would defer a few but the other will still figure someway to kill people.

    • Anonymous

      “Drs. would have to submit to the State any mental problem and the State submit to the Feds.”

      First Issue: One acronym…HIPAA

      Second Issue: Three words…doctor/patient confidentiality.

      Third Issue: Even if the first two issues are solved you will only filter out those that have documented mental health issues not those that haven’t been to the doctor or remain undiagnosed.

      • Anonymous

        The person buying the gun would have to wave all those rights you mention. If they don’t no weapon.

        • Anonymous

          Nothing in you post addresses the third point.

          By the way, HIPAA is not a “right” it’s a series of privacy protections.

  • Anonymous

    They should of taken a picture of the kid with an AR-15 Airsoft gun, the comments would of been hysterical…

  • Anonymous

    This is unreal. How about we start doing the same to all liquor stores because they are arming individuals with booze that sometimes drive drunk and wind up killing people.? Maybe it should be a car manufacturer for giving a drunk person a “weapon” to kill someone with. Yes, Newtown was very tragic and sad, but we should be looking forward on the matter. People are crazy regardless. If they want to find a way to kill a mass amount of people they will find a way, weather its a gun, a knife, a truck full of explosives, or an airplane. Stand back and look at the big picture.

  • Lazerus Phoenix

    So the poll above shows Liberals DON’T want kids protected!
    Interesting!

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