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  • Right again Governor LePage!

    • Anonymous

      I’ll repeat what someone else said below- When do you and other LePage supporters start holding him responsible for Maine’s low ranking?

      The same as you hold Obama responsible?

      • Anonymous

        We will start holding him accountable when his policies actually get implemented. He had a weak Republican legislature and now he has a democrat legislature. He has not had the chance to pass the policies he ran on. Yes, he cut taxes and have reduced healthcare costs, but he has not been able to tackle the high energy costs in this state. Thank the democrats for that…

        • Anonymous

          Obama didn’t get that same chance with the Senate GOP filibustering everything.

          The Republican legislature could have passed his energy ideas at any time- but they didn’t, because they must not have had the votes.

        • Anonymous

          You are right about energy costs.

      • BDN Ombudsman

        Do you think LePage is responsible for high taxes, high insurance costs and high energy costs? If so you are not only ignorant, you are delusional.

      • Tyke

        It is not Maine’s low ranking per se that LePage owns(we started out fairly low) , but rather the fact that in the midst of a moderate but steady improvement nationally, Maine is losing ground relative to the other states. LePage’s “leadership” is costing us the recovery being seen elsewhere.

        • FrankC

          The “recover” is in states that are “right to work” and where taxes have been reduced. Both items you liberals voted against.

    • Anonymous

      So what’s up with the southern Maine, York, Cumberland,
      Sagadahoc Co’s doing ok, they’re bastions of the dem’s, Bangor doing alright and central Maine’s mid size communities treading water, they’re pretty middle of the road in regards to politics. It’s where the republicans dominate, the north, east and rural areas where things are in the can. These same areas have most not believing in evolution or global warming and high gov’t dependence?

      Ps. Paully why is it Brunswick’s MMRA is filling up faster than any other closed base? Someone is coming to town or expanding. http://www.mainebiz.biz/apps/pbcs.dll/articleAID=/20121210/CURRENTEDITION/312069999/0/NEWS01

      Don’t believe everything you read Paully.

  • Anonymous

    I was at the breakfast and governor LePage said a lot of things outside of most people’s comfort zones which is why he is so highly criticized by liberal democrats. All of Maine’s problems are the result of 40 years of mismanagement by democrats and they know it, thus they want to fight about the labor mural because its clear they know nothing about economics. Let the down arrows begin.

    • Anonymous

      “All of Maine’s problems are the result of 40 years of mismanagement by democrats and they know it,” ,

      So LePage has nothing to do it ?

      Good point, he is useless and we all know it.

      How much better has it gotten it the past two years ?
      How well are we doing with his being in charge and now that we are
      “open for business” with him running as the Boss ?

      • Anonymous

        He’s tried to put Maine on a better course, while wasting his political capital on the mural and other silly distractions. But I certainly don’t expect *anyone* to right the ship so quickly. And his mouth aside, I’m much happier with him than I would have been with Libby.

      • Anonymous

        One might also allude to the fact that Obama ran on the same thing…..I have only had 4 years to correct things……

        • Tyke

          You might want to check out how Maine is doing compared to others states (trending worse for relative unemployment and earnings) and how the US as a whole is doing (trending up).
          .
          Yes, these things do take time, but you have to at least head in the right direction to see improvement at some point.

        • Anonymous

          But he won because the opposition has no policies that do not already have track record of abject failure.

          It is about the economy …

      • Anonymous

        Yes, lets get back to democrats so that they can finish this State off and gift it to their rich friends from Boston and New York. Now where are those cigars and champagne?

      • Anonymous

        The down spiral began 42 years ago when we gave the gavel to democrats and they dictated with iron fists. This State may not be able to be saved but I can guarantee you this – keep electing democrats and Maine will never be anything other than what it is – a welfare State. Useless belongs to you and your band of liberal “do gooders” that know nothing other than how to take from those that have and give it to those that don’t.

    • Anonymous

      No down arrow from me….

      However, Obama wasn’t in office for even a year when a majority of Republicans (including yourself as I recall) were blaming HIM for our financial problems.

      And within two years, according to Republicans, Obama owned the whole mess.

      So when are you going to start holding LePage to the same standards?

      When do you and other LePage supporters start holding him responsible for Maine’s low ranking?

      The same as you hold Obama responsible?

      Just wonderin’

      • Anonymous

        Perfectly said.

      • Anonymous

        Well put. I didn’t expect Obama to turn the economy around so fast. Despite not being a fan of our governor, I would wish for the same from the Ds here.

      • Anonymous

        The Governor is not able to change the fact that Maine is dependent upon farming the poor for Federal largess. Homegrown and immigrant entitlement community’s plethora of money inputs, drive the consumerism that supports a marginally subsistent working class. Meanwhile, the liberal elite enjoy their municipal daycare kingdoms and, for snow birds, their tax shelter vacation properties. Each Governor in turn since Longley has passed off Maine’s constantly ballooning Medicaid debt to the other States for pennies on our dollar. Baldacci was the only Governor to bite the hand that fed him, when he tried to consolidate municipal daycare administration, but failed. The only growth industry remaining in the state is pot farming grow light supplies, and pot, and gay marriage. Maine depends on a tailwind from the national economy picking up steam, which hasn’t happened in nearly a decade, or two depending on your point of view. Governor LePage can do nothing during his last two lame duck years other than speak the truth, preside over the coming Obama disasters, and remain a thorn in the liberal’s side. Whether the voters will wake up in two years, and not choose bread and circuses again, remains to be seen but doubtful. After all, if the taxes get paid, they couldn’t have been too high. If the Medicaid bill gets passed onto the national debt again and again, the national debt must not be too high. If the unemployment and welfare checks keep getting printed, there must be money for them from somewhere. So long as the food stamp debit card keeps getting restored, there will be no problem here.

      • Anonymous

        Actually I started holding Obama responsible when he began borrowing one trillion a year, did not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, passed Obamacare on strict party lines and basically did not do one thing he said he would do. LePage on the other hand, has NOT gone to Augusta and kept the status quo, he has actually tried to change the tone. He is trying to keep his promise to Maine people. So why do you think that Obama is doing great?

        • Anonymous

          I don’t think you really answered my question.

          But you did confirm my original premise.

          You concede that you blamed Obama for the financial mess immediately after he took office, yet you continue to find reasons to NOT hold LePage responsible for the financial mess Maine is in.

          I simply am remarking on the seeming inconsistency of those positions.

          But thanks for responding to my question.

    • Anonymous

      Here we go with the 40 year myth again.

    • Anonymous

      Judging by your incessant posts, you’re not exactly Milton Friedman yourself.

    • Anonymous

      Since 1967(45 years) Maine has been managed by Chief Executives with these political ideals.

      Republican
      Democrat
      Independent
      Democrat
      Republican
      Independent
      Democrat
      Republican

      • FrankC

        Now include the house & senate, Thank you

    • Anonymous

      I was there too and he ate all the bacon.

    • Seems to me life was not all sweetness and light under Mckerna, when we again took a budget surplus (left by Brennan) and turned it into a deficit. Wasn’t McKernan the Governor who hired former Jackson Brook Hospital administrator Rollin Ives as Commissioner of DHS, and wasn’t that about the same time we started to get the Feds on our butt because we were billing for people who either didn’t exist, or who were ineligible for the programs billed?

  • Anonymous

    Has LePage EVER said anything positive about our state?

    • Anonymous

      Regardless of being positive, stringah….he does have a point! A very valid point!

      • Anonymous

        LePage is spewing the typical ‘give to the rich’ line. They get more, we get less, the budget shows a deficit, and the Republicans use this as an excuse to give even more to the rich.

        By the way, Forbes Magazine says the happiest countries in the world all have strong welfare nets and lots of redistribution of wealth:

        [The happiest countries] are all borderline socialist states, with generous welfare benefits and lots of redistribution of wealth.

        http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/19/norway-denmark-finland-business-washington-world-happiest-countries_print.html

        • Anonymous

          Yes, we could all be happy, just tax the rich and the rest of the population doesn’t have to work or do anything productive….sign me up!

          • Anonymous

            Texas would love you! They have lots of jobs there.

        • Anonymous

          so I guess Stockholm syndrome has two meanings

        • Anonymous

          Give to the rich? It is the rich that support the state. Should the rich feel good when their pockets are picked and then cursed at when those pockets are empty? It is the rich that give and give and give some more to hold up the teetering and tottering welfare state. Redistribute wealth? You might as well try and redistribute hope, love and sunshine.

          • Anonymous

            What state are you talking about?

          • Anonymous

            Oh, please. I shed no tears for the wealthy. Sanctimoniousness palaver like this makes me sick. Stop whining. The wealthy are doing just fine.

          • Tyke

            You are trying to reason with someone who has deliberately chosen a screen name representing a grotesquely stereotypical character in a poorly written book by a Soviet, atheist, drug addict, illegal alien.
            .
            Reason does not live there.

          • FELT

            Nor does reason lay in name-calling, character assassination, slander…..need more mud?

          • Anonymous

            “poorly written”
            maybe if you read the book you would not spew msnbc;s talking points and the point of Rand’s writing, entirely.
            so she cannot write great prose.
            John Lennon could, but I sure do not want to live in a world run by Sgt. Pepper

            and she was not much of a soviet, in case you need to know.. her writing was a reaction to soviet government (and spruce dweller)

          • Tyke

            Her writing was a method to trick rubes into giving her money after she had personally benefited enormously from socialistic programs in both Russia and the US. She accepted government medical and entitlement payments long after she published her novels to trick fools into giving her money.

          • Anonymous

            When will you be starting your business paying employees $50K per year with full benefits? Then you can get the tax breaks and join the rich.

          • Anonymous

            If their pockets are empty then they will be part of the privileged class after all. They will be much happier then.

          • Anonymous

            Boy, is that twisted! Where do the rich get their wealth from? Unless they were born with it, they scammed it from the ones who do the work for them.

          • FELT

            What kind of additive crap has your union fed you?

            To be sure a lot of wealth is inherited, not earned, i.e. Justin Alfond & friends; but a lot is earned through brilliance and risk taking.

            If you union slugs are so smart lets see you earn some ‘wealth’.

          • Anonymous

            sad

          • Anonymous

            I don’t think you know how wealth or money works.

          • Anonymous

            I can see how well it is working in Maine.

          • Give it up. The rich are given the advantages by the state to become and stay rich.

            Why is it that Blue States are subsidizing Red States? What is so wrong with states that vote GOP that they have to depend on the Blue States to prop them up?

        • Anonymous

          Hey spruce, here is an idea for you, GO GET YOUR OWN!!!!!!

        • FELT

          A large part of Maine’s economy is determined by how the tens’ of thousands of wealthy estate owners spent their disposable income. Cut that and kiss goodbye Maine’s creative economy run by artists and craftspeople .

          Forbes said what??? got a cite for that piece of tripe? They’re really happen in Greece, Spain, and France these days.

      • Anonymous

        It’s only valid until you realize that “business friendly” is code for “corporate giveaways”.

        • Anonymous

          And if that brings jobs and a higher tax base….the problem is what?

          • Anonymous

            The problem is: it doesn’t work, How many jobs did “trickle down” create, other than corporate? That’s the point…..it doesn’t work. A higher tax base??/ Lol…..you would be the first one to complain about tapping that “higher tax base”!!! Get off the high horse, and join reality. Offer something of substance that offers equal chances, and not place business interest before valid, real, economic growth. Release the bond money, for example….

          • Anonymous

            “Release the bond money” So I guess what your saying is, if it can’t be done with tax payers money then it can’t be done. Just borrow more money we can’t afford to pay back. I see…pay ya Visa with your Master Card and all is good.

          • Anonymous

            What I’m saying is the same thing that any investor,government official, selectman, and , may I add the VOTER has indicated. Inevestments in infrastructure are always good, long term investments for a state to make. You explain to me, how releasing the bond money is going to strap the state? Explain to me how, exactly, those who voted for those investments are wrong?

          • Anonymous

            ANY one that says that pi$$ing money away is always good is not thinking all that well.
            Almost every investment made by government today is at least 50% waste.

          • Anonymous

            According to you, half of infrastructure investments are waste? Ok, now that YOU said that, that strengthens my argument. You see, Larry, government didn’t decide to invest this money,…..that was , ummm yea, those things that get in conservatives way…..THE VOTERS! Nice try, ……not really.

          • Some of “the voters” voted for the lesser of two bads.

            Baldacci wasted a bunch of money on the Verona Island bridge. We didn’t NEED to replace that bridge, but the Governor thought he would use that project to pay off his friends in the Construction industry. so we got a very expensive bridge, a tower for tourists, and a bill for removal of the old bridge even though the scarp value was not figured in to the equation.

            King wasted a bunch of money on a lap-top program. If he had provided lap-top’s to only families who fell below the poverty line, I wouldn’t call it a waste (even though it wasn’t necessary) But he decided to gift his high-end supporters by giving their children lap-tops too.

            McKernan decided to attempt to do the Feds out of their Medicaid money by declaring all the children at the Maine Youth Center to be psychiatric patients. The government caught him and hit Maine with not only a repay, but a fine as well.

          • Anonymous

            The Majority of voters voted for them, not “some”. McKernan got what he deserved, as did Ronald Reagan, by miraculously saying all of those mental health patients are now “cured”…..and released them. Ole Jocko was doing the same thing in a way. Only he wanted the money that went along with the kids.

          • “Some of “the voters” voted for the lesser of two bads.”

            Do you read English, or shall I translate. .

          • Anonymous

            Riiighhht, the government does not decide to pack needed “investment” projects, that the voters want, with pork.
            The “emergency ” funds for Sandy rebuilding is larded with plums for far distant projects. THAT IS WASTE but I was refering to the layers upon layers of overhead for the government flunkies.
            Please don’t play dumb.

          • Anonymous

            They weren’t “emergency” funds…….do some research on the legislative process will you? “Emergency” funding is not done by referendum, it’s done during the second session of the legislature. Only an “emergency” bill can be introduced, and approved by the Legislative Council, prior to consideration by the full legislature. If, by chance, the legislature cannot agree, it has the option of sending it out to referendum. A referendum question, as sent by the Legislature, loses it’s “emergency” status. And you complain about “the Sandy” funds?? What’s wrong with aiding those who have suffered greatly, instead of sending a couple of Wile E Coyote Acme Rocket Missles off? Waste? how is a federal investment in rebuilding infrastructure a “waste”? Isn’t it the same “flunkies” who worked with Hurricane Katrina? What’s a viable government expense to you anyway? Is there such a thing? Don’t you understand, it creates jobs, in many many areas. Don’t you think for a minute that those same Republican congressmen and senators who are claiming that it is laden with pork, are the same ones who packed the defense industry’s pockets during these crazy wars? Or is that …….different?

          • Anonymous

            Exactly! Look at the money that Dem hack Dale McCormick was pi$$ing away at MSHA on “affordable” housing. Once we got someone with some business sense involved we are saving 36% on the cost of affordable housing units, enough to build 144 more units for the same money. This kind of waste goes on every day in government and we’re just scratching the surface in fixing it.

            http://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/METREAS-6273c9

            Unfortunately those with their hands out voted to put the same morons who brought us quarter million dollar affordable housing back in charge in the Maine legislature. They’ll be robbing us blind again before you know it.

          • Anonymous

            This is usually where some rightwinger will say, “think of the future grand kids that will be saddled with this debt….”
            And I can’t help but think what will future generations want more?

            a. Clean air, clean water, fertile soils, strong infrastructure and some dirty debt balance sheets from well thought out bonds….

            Or

            b. A squeaky clean balance sheet ledger, with….
            Crumbling infrastructure, polluted water, soil and air,…..
            all because previous generations were more concerned about debt than making the investments needed to help make a society function and thrive for current and future generations.

          • bogcook

            So borrow, borrow, borrow. Don’t worry about the interest we have to pay on all the borrowing. Good idea!!!

          • Anonymous

            Now is the prime time to borrow, interest rates are at an all time low.
            I often hear right wingers say we have to operate the government like a household budget and not spend more than taking in.
            Did u pay for your house in cash?
            How about your college education? Cash in hand?

          • Anonymous

            First ask the government what happenes to DDT, the same DDT that was sprayed all over Maine for years, then ask about asbestos. you know the stuff the federal government had to put in schools and everywhere else.

            Then ask why if parents can use their almost middle aged child as a tax deduction why are they giving these deductions welfare.

            Ask why politicans get overpaid, they are “Public Servants”, last I heard servants get minimum and no benefits.
            Ask them why they make it impossible to start a business here and try to destroy the small ones who already are.
            Last ask what kind of President wants to fine people because they can’t afford insurance instead of reducing medical care.
            Don’t blame previous generations unless your talking strickly about politicans, please.

          • Anonymous

            I’m struggling to figure out the amount of effort I should put in to reply to your knee-jerk reactionary response.
            If I respond, will I get just another random list of grievances and gripes you have against the government, and what exactly do you expect me to do about it?
            First, I’m all for cracking down on companies like DuPont or Monsanto that pollute our environment and make toxic products. I think a good alternative would be legalizing industrial hemp for domestic manufactorting and helping the transition into sustainable farming with less pesticides and synthetic fertilizers.
            As far as welfare reform, tax reform, and government pension reform goes, I just don’t got the time and patience to hash that out with you, and I think is heading off topic.
            Healthcare I can answer, if you are poor, you will qualify under the medicaid expansion that is underway. If you are outside the qualifying threshold, you can get a government subsidy to help afford it. If it were my choice, I’d go for a Single Payer System and cut out these middle men profiteers.
            My main point stands, which I think you may have misinterpreted,
            I think future generations would rather inherit some debt from bonds with a functioning infrastructure than no debt, with a crumbling infrastructure.

          • Anonymous

            I wonder why you took that as a personal knee jerk, are you in insurance or politics?

            I question your statement about “get rid of the middleman and have single payer insurance.” The middleman is insurance so how would that work? Because they’d still be there and still make cost outrageous.

            What if the federal government and insurances, disappeared when the Myan Calendar ended, what would be in your pay check today? An extra $100-400.00? Medical cost drop, you then could afford it.

            Welfare healthcare is an insult to anyone who has worked 40-50 years and paid taxes. See if your 62 yr. old neighbor lost his job after 40+ years of paying taxes, if he/she needs help to get meds, they have to sign everything they own over to the government and wait 6 months to a year before they can actually get their meds. If your neighbor dies before then, their family could end up with nothing, I mean nothing, not even the family bible.

            Why is it the USA,whose suppose to be so smart, so proper in finances, so wealthy and yet so far indebt. It’s B.S. there’s such debt and so much to pass on. Come on think about it, how crushing, how discouraging is that to have this dumped on you before you even are old enough to crawl?

          • StillRelaxin

            Just ANOTHER example of Paul LePage crapping on his own State and its people. As “Vacationland” we used to at least bring in millions as a place for the well-to-do or even some middle class folks to visit. Now with Paulie as our supreme spokesmen/salesmen all we are is a laughing stock to business, vacationers and people with IQ’s above 90. Thanks for nothing Paulie!

          • Anonymous

            I understand the Dems. want to change that from “Vacationland” to “retirementland” this way we don’t have to worry about new jobs.

          • StillRelaxin

            I’m thinking Mr. LePage’s 2014 campaign slogan is going to be something like, “Maine, just stay the hell away cause if you come I’ll hate on you too.”

            Paul LePage is the greatest thing that’s ever happened to the Democratic party of Maine. For all his efforts in that regard I say, thanks Paul. Keep up the good work!

          • Anonymous

            Retirement land???? they want to change it to Quimbyland the plact that no one is allowed to live or visit. It’ll just be virgin forrest.

          • Patrick Dunham

            You mean Pauline?

          • Anonymous

            well it makes hypocracy out of the rights’ homage to the so called “free market” . And it suggests there is one type of “socialism” (and handouts) they REALLY DO like —-pointing out yet another hypocracy. They like “welfare” so long as it goes to corporations .

          • Anonymous

            This drip seems to have forgotten that he’s been running this State for the last two years. He now owns whatever problems this State is facing.

            He’s chosen to waste two years of our time crying about trackers and fighting with bureaucrats about a mural. It’s probably time for him to grow up and get involved in solving some of the real problems this State is facing instead of whining to some magazine about them.

          • Anonymous

            Look at how much money has been spent on a mural that will be back in place in five more years. You would rather whine about the mural than work on fixing Maine.

          • Anonymous

            Well? That was LePage’s choice. He made a grand gesture with that mural, and spent the rest of the time whining rather than fixing Maine.

          • Narsbars

            Two more years, not five.

          • Anonymous

            I’m sure you missed this…

            “Next year, six new low-income housing projects in Maine will cost taxpayers 36% less than those completed this year. This dramatic $71,000 saving per apartment will help fund the construction of an additional 144 affordable units! That means another 144 vulnerable Maine families will have safe, warm homes that they can afford.”

            http://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/METREAS-6273c9

            Instead you want to go back to the Dale McCormick and Paul Violette government of incompetence and corruption. Brilliant!

          • Anonymous

            In fact it does not. Need me to find the assessment of what ALEC like legislation has produced? The things the Gov is talking about are right out of ALEC’s playbook and profiting from it all it their only objective. Businesses that are fair share players will have no problem locating here.

          • Anonymous

            This is the problem….due to what has been done to this state the last 20yrs. high taxes, over regulation, high energy cost, NIMBY fighting everything that not an art gallery or a book store, businesses DON’T want to move here.

          • Anonymous

            It seems to me that a corporation, for example, a natural gas corporation provider would love to play ball here. The problem lies here: LePage want’s communities through TIFFS to pay for a corporation’s investment. A Tiff is nothing but a property tax rebate; but it’s not given to property owner’s; those savings are given to the company. And when they are done (the nat. gas co’s) they get to charge for their services. However, the valuation of property increases, the costs of upkeep and public safety increases and the company pays………nothing.

          • Guest

            Grumpygrampy ain’t got no good English..

          • Anonymous

            Does this mean I’ll never be able to buy a house or have children?

          • Anonymous

            LOL, good one.

          • Anonymous

            When will you be starting your business paying employees $50K with full benefits? Just imagine all of the tax breaks you can get.

          • Anonymous

            Maybe she will after trickle down economics actually does what it’s professed to do.

          • FrankC

            I recall reading a report that the Female governor of Oklahoma used many of ALEX ideas – Ok is one state that has rebounded that liberal like to include when they say the economy is coming back..

          • Tyke

            An OPEGA report issued a few years back detailed $600,000,000 in corporate welfare (aka “economic development”) spent by the Maine state government but found no evidence of any sustained economic benefit to the taxpayers footing the bill.

          • FrankC

            Yup – I remember – Baldacci’s Buddies !

          • Anonymous

            Dont forget Angus !!

          • Anonymous

            Jobs? What kind of jobs? Do they pay a living wage? Do they offer health insurance? (Or do they result in an net increase in demand on social services by only offering part-time, low-wage jobs with no benefits?)

            Increasing the tax base is nice, but — it seems as often as not — along with increased tax revenues, new businesses bring new expenses to a town. So it’s not always a no-brainer.

            Some temporary corporate tax breaks do work out well on both the local and state level, but they should be looked at very carefully.

          • Anonymous

            Start your own business and pay the workers $100,000 each if you want. What’s stopping you? Cash in on some of those tax breaks why don’t you?

          • Anonymous

            Maybe she’s waiting for the trickle down ripples to actually happen as professed.

          • Anonymous

            grumpy, don’t be a chump! Look at states like Louisiana, Texas, South Carolina, Oklahoma…is that what you want? If so, there is plenty of room for you there.

            I like this the best: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/04/14/nonviolent-new-englanders-the-most-peaceful-states-in-america/

            Most peaceful State in America…..Maine

          • Anonymous

            Yep, cause all the young people are moving out of state to find work and the state is filling up with us old folks cause we don’t need jobs, cause we are all retired. You ever try committing a crime when ya can’t stay awake pass 8pm and your walker keeps slipping on the ice? Hey just one chumps opinion.

          • Anonymous

            I’ve only lived here a year, but I know a couple of young people who have moved here to farm…a tough job. But you are right. I know 6 people who moved here to retire. There should be jobs taking care of old people! Many of these retired people have money and pay their taxes…what is wrong with that?

          • But like many Red States, Maine is a welfare state. Why are the poorest states Red States?

          • Anonymous

            Here is an example

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/business/energy-environment/sasol-betting-big-on-gas-to-liquid-plant-in-us.html?src=busln&_r=0

            This state owned oil company (Qatar) got…” in Louisiana, supported by more than $2 billion in state incentives.” Do you want a plant like this in Maine? Sure they have jobs, but at what cost? Maine residents are doing what really needs to be done….inspiring local economy. All grow is not good growth.

          • Anonymous

            The red states are what we used to call the bible belt. When I was quite a bit younger, most of these states were blue sates. The Republicans were losing elections because they did not appeal to those in the bible belt. So they adopted new platforms catering to them and campaigned on issues like anti-abortion and Christian values. It was so simple to win over these narrow-minded simpletons. In the process of catering to these folks, they lost much of their base in what used to be red states and those states turned blue.

          • Anonymous

            Where have you been? Maine has been Blue for 35 years.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, but you don’t seem to get that one of the biggest criteria for being “business friendly” is that corporations get massive property tax incentives or rebates. That leaves the burden of paying for the same infrastructure, that the business uses to make its profits, sitting squarely on the shoulders of the individual property owners.

          • Anonymous

            Lets just say that business brings 30 jobs at 25 to 35k a year and that money is spent locally doesn’t that kinda off set the tax break of the new business?

          • Anonymous

            How many local businesses you see bringing in 30 jobs a year at 25 to 35K. I work at one ofthe biggest employers in the freaking county, and if we hire one a year part time, that’s a gift…..Nothing else comes close.

          • Anonymous

            Maybe of Maine was more business friendly your company would hire more. What company wants to put up with the expense of adding employees in Maine?

          • Anonymous

            But they pay income taxes. Payroll taxes, and their employees buy goods and services as well as pay taxes themselves.

          • Anonymous

            Yes but a big percentage of the state doesn’t pay taxes, This is a cash only economy…..you dig?

          • Anonymous

            You must be speaking about the drug dealers. I don’t know anyone that doesn’t file a return.

          • Anonymous

            No, cash only refers to unreported income at tax time Cheesecake. I have never in my life seen so many cash only transactions on the local level. Carpenters, sawmills, roofers. painters, farmer’s markets, small stores, fishermen, artists, nurseries all small business. No checks even, nothing that has a paper trail. It does make me wonder whether we’d have such deficits if everyone paid on all that unreported income. That’s the other way business, small and large cheats screws the rest of us regular taxpaying wage earners.

          • FrankC

            That’s just one of the many reasons that we should be looking at the FairTax.org – works for all, liberal/conservative, dem or pub !

          • Anonymous

            The City of New London CT not only gave corporate give-aways, but condemned private homes for corporate interests…..and then? The corporations left them hanging – leaving.

          • Yup, that was the same dealing as when the right-wing US Supreme Court decided that a person’s private property could be FORCIBLY TAKEN by the government, if the government decided that a business would use it to produce more property tax.

            I’m glad New London got the shaft on that, but it’s a shame that the SCOTUS decided to make such an unconstitutional decision (Kelso v. New London)

          • Anonymous

            Absolutely Correct! Pfizer grabbed the Under Water Sound property and closed on a deal to Electric Boat under the 10yr tax abatement. Did they pay a penalty … hell no! Now they are leaving CT entirely and on their way to Pfizer Bombay & Pfizer Shanghai …. how com the newspaper reporters are not jumping on that band wagon!!! there are about 600 employees left in Groton as opposed to 4000 employees 10yrs ago!

          • pbmann

            The problem is that corporate giveaways means that they pay little or no taxes and the Maine taxpayer has to foot a larger bill maintaining the infrastructure for these companies that pay little or no taxes.

        • FELT

          Like the TIF’s initiated by Baldacci & Richardson?

          Or all of King’s cronies?

        • Anonymous
      • Anonymous

        The problem, however, is that Lepage can not make a point without sounding foolish.

        His seeming need to make the “Maine – Puerto Rico” comparison is simply inexplicable, and once again displays his inability to get out of his own way…..

        Just my opinion.

      • Anonymous

        OK, but the problem is that he doesn’t seem to be able to MAKE a point without sounding foolish.

        His decision to go with that “Maine – Puerto Rico” comparison is completely inexplicable. What possible good comes from bizarre statements like that?

        He seems to have an almost pathological need to be insulting…..

        Just my opinion.

      • Anonymous

        As recent BDN articles have pointed out, southern Maine is actually doing reasonably well in terms of employment, business growth, and overall economy. Being part of Maine, southern Maine is subject to the exact same economic policies, environmental regulations, and tax burdens as other parts of the state. Logic would therefore lead one to conclude that state economic policies, regulations, and taxes are not, after all, the root cause of all that ails us.

        It’s interesting that LePage is still misquoting Forbes (especially in terms of energy costs) since Forbes publicly corrected him a few months ago for misrepresenting their report. See http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2011/12/16/maine-gov-lepage-stretches-truth-on-forbes-ranking/

        Among other things Forbes has stated that Maine’s (lowest in New England) energy costs are NOT a significant factor Maine’s low ranking. Another study showed that even if the state income tax were reduced to zero, Maine would still trail the vast majority of states in terms of places to make a living. http://bangordailynews.com/2012/10/31/news/state/website-still-ranks-maine-among-worst-for-making-a-living/

        Bottom line is that a state is attractive to business and workers on the merit of WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER, not through a race to the bottom strategy of subtraction.

        We need more young people to choose Maine as a place to live and bring up a family. LePage’s unjustified lambasting of our public schools should help a lot in that department!

        • Anonymous

          Have people actually considered if there are any advantages to living in a State that Forbes would rate high for their business interest over living in Maine ?

        • Anonymous

          I have seen many young and older people return to Maine to live sustainable lifestyles that would not fit in to a “business friendly” -i.e. tax breaks for the big box stores and heavy polluters, state. These people are not addicted to the consumerist poisons produced by and sold by businesses that need governmental “friendlies” to locate here. They are farmers, professionals, crafts and trades people who enjoy personal relationships with their customers. People who will sell you food that doesn’t poison you, clothing that lasts past the first wash and none of that cheap plastic stuff made in China. People that value quality over quantity. People who work hard and are proud of it. People that take care of themselves, their families and their neighbors without asking for the government support Lepage and Forbes seem to expect.

          Forbes’ definition of business friendly shouldn’t be the yardstick our governor uses to judge our state. In my book if Lepage thinks our fair state is such a terrible place, he’s welcome to move to Puerto Rico. Enough with the negativity. Foster what’s positive in our state instead of putting us down.

          • Anonymous

            Absolutely agree. We need to think out of the box and think long-term. Otherwise, the only alternative is to try to become another New Jersey.

          • Anonymous

            Except that New Jersey is doing better and Christie is popular for doing the same thing LePage is trying here.

          • Anonymous

            Christie is popular among republicans, and that’s about it.

          • Anonymous

            Christie is unpopular among the takers…just like Lepage here.

          • Anonymous

            Right, cause only rightwing corporate tools are the producers.
            Funny how the producers sanctimonious indignation of the takers ends at the cash register, being +70% US GDP is based on consumer spending.

          • Anonymous

            What’s wrong with that? New Jersey is doing a helluva lot better than Maine.

          • FrankC

            I had a very successful NJ entrepreneur tell me once that if you can’t make it in NJ than you can;t make it .. ..

          • Anonymous

            You are not paying attention. Retirees leave the state and spend their money elsewhere. They return when either their retirement money is gone or they have lost a spouse and want to be close to the place they grew up.

          • Anonymous

            Exactly. Who here doesn’t know a number of people who live in Maine 6 months minus one day. Our taxes prevent all of the high worth people from establishing residence here and we get zero income taxes from them.

          • Briney

            Absolutely, one hundred percent on target.

            Forbes survey of “business friendly states” ignores our harbors and docks, where multi billionaires like Forbes, find their favorite natural anchorages.

            A 5 million gallon capacity propane storage facility in Northeast Harbor or Searsport, might change Forbes’ outlook on just what is “business friendly.” in Maine.

        • Anonymous

          Why would young Mainers want to remain in a state filled with opiate-addicted criminals and a union workforce from a century ago – not to mention the roads and depressing climate? (When is that sun setting today?) They migrate to where career and social opportunities abound – and that certainly is not Maine.

          • Briney

            Maine? There isn’t a state like it. We have everything that anyone could wish for, including four seasons.

            Florida has the sun, overbearing heat, overcrowded cities, drugs galore, swamps, man and baby-eating ‘gators, 20-foot-long snakes, and an overwhelming crime rate. New Jersey is nothing to crow about, either.

          • Anonymous

            Maine needs more than 4 seasons. It needs to create a reason for our young graduates to stay and be able to make a good living.

          • FrankC

            Having spent significant time in both states, I agree with you (probably for the first time If I recall your ID) – but a week in Vero and then in St George Is for the oysters .. ..

        • Briney

          Too bad the corrections weren’t run alongside his claims. Today, an editorial overturns one false set of Le Pagerisms, and yet another story smashes his contentions about school administrators.

          Your reiteration about Forbes correcting Le Page’s previous claims, which he spouts before the Bangor Regional Chamber of Commerce, should have been drawn up alongside that story.

          People need to be reminded of this man ‘s continuous non – stop pompous, pontificating, and derisive fact-less drivel, about Maine and its people.

          The next candidate for governor of Maine, should be be out there lambasting this man. Our legislators just don’t have the – y’know- to tackle him.

        • JHW

          Lepage will be the reason I will be leaving this state immediatley after i graduate college. Due to the fact that previous generations have left their children with no future careers nor opportunities to become successful. You want us to stay give us a reason to. Give us a opportunity that will allow us to make a decent living wage. Afford are basic expenses, and pay for our educations that have already cost us thousands of dollars and debt, so we can experience a relatively happy life with little to moderate stress. If anybody should be blaming anyone its us. Hello Maine step up to the plate and accept change for once! Then maybe your children won’t be packing up and leaving!

      • FarmerTom

        No, he doesn’t.

      • Anonymous

        LePage should stop being negative and start leading…in fact, he could set a positive example and lead…his family and friends out of high paying, cushy, State jobs!

      • Anonymous

        A point which, if truly valid, should have been dealt with during the TWO YEARS in which he had a TeaPublican controlled legislature. The FACT of the matter is that all the TeaPublicans are good for is complaining-they have yet to accomplish ANYTHING positive, anywhere, at any time.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe, but what has he personally done to make it better. BDN ignored the transportation survey that gave us a C minus for roads……

      • Anonymous

        Who wants to do business with a bully….a man who went to Canada when I went to S. Vietnam with two tours, A Marnes Corp Medal Of Valor with two oak clusters, A bronze star. and a two Purple Hearts. It took a Democrat President Carter to give him amnesty so he could come back to Maine….If hasn’t done a thing except Whine, Whine, Whine…..
        Coward….Bully and Maine isn’t open for business…..68 cents a gallon more for gas than other states….Triple taxes on realestate, personal property taxes tripled more than other states….who wants to start a business when you are beat before you even start…that’s why I retired to Virginia were I save 12,000.00 in real estate taxes alone….with no more 8 months of winter….. Although I do come to Maine and spend the summer and fall with the money I save on not paying higher taxes….at my camp in the North Maine Woods on Big Machias Lake…..Have a nice day!

    • Anonymous

      When it come to Maine business climate there isn’t much positive to say. Our young people are leaving the state to find decent jobs. For many that stay, half their income in welfare. If a business wants to come to Maine they have to fight the NIMBY and end up in court. Many want to turn the mid-coast area into a giant retirement community with no industry at all. So yes…where the positive?

    • Anonymous

      Are you proud of 40 years of liberalism? What have they done to inprove the business climate in Maine?? Raised electric rates, regulated factories out of Business.

      • Anonymous

        I think those factories went overseas where cheap labor and environmental poisoning is standard fare.

    • Anonymous

      Nope, he certainly has not been positive about our students, teachers, school administrators, state workers, artists, writers, native Americans, women, NAACP members, retirees, and this list just keeps going on and on!

      • StillRelaxin

        You forgot to mention our President whom he wishes to send to hell. His negativity toward humanity once was shocking, but now it’s embarrassingly predictable.

        It’s as simple as this, if you’re not prepared to in some way kiss Paul’s butt or put money in his (or his families’ pocket) then you’re not worthy of living.

        Dear Paul, we’re not puckering up, we’ve just started fighting back. Brace yourself for a thunderous fall.

        • Anonymous

          And that trip for the POTUS cannot happen fast enough!

          • StillRelaxin

            In case you missed it, American’s just overwhelmingly just tacked on another four years for our President. As for LePage, for the next two years I can hold my breath much longer than anyone’s going to give him the time of day. Two years of being laughed at and ignored. I’m not sure Paul can handle that. Most Mainer’s (and probably real Republicans) are hoping he can’t and will simply pull a Palin. Sooner rather than later. Exhale….back to regular breathing.

          • Anonymous

            Just goes to show you that there are still a bunch of dumb a** Americans that just became part of the problem. Just wait till January when your taxes take a hike….that is if you pay any taxes.
            And do us a favor and keep holding your breath…keep holding…keep holding….

          • StillRelaxin

            No problem with my taxes (that’s a whiny selfish conservative’s worry) or my breathing. Just watch out for my snorkel when I surface. It sometimes get’s caught up in large holes.

          • Anonymous

            Nice to know you either have plenty of extra money laying around to pay taxes or perhaps you are one of the many that pays no income tax at all, so its not big deal to you.

          • So, are you now supporting an all out endorsement of the presidents proposal, or Rand Pauls sort of voting for it but not plan?

    • Anonymous

      Sometimes the truth hurts. If people are not willing to accept that fact, then the quality of living in Maine will remain stagnant or get worse. When a state does not have jobs that offer liveable wages, the young will continue to leave the state. It’s time for legislators to get off the butts & do something constructive.

      • Anonymous

        Stop asking legislators to do something! Do it yourself! Start a business, be part of the solution.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, many times at this mornings event

    • FELT

      He doesn’t need to, his actions speak volumes. Replacing Dale McCormick and her toadies; has resulted in a restoration of MSHA as a provider of genuine low cost housing. More housing for less money!

    • Anonymous

      Ignoring a problem does not make it go away.

      30 plus years of democrat control has proven this.

    • Briney

      No.

  • Anonymous

    When I heard that Maine was one of the healthiest states in America, instead of being happy, I shuddered. I knew LePage would do everything in his power to destroy our general health, through his awful policies and his horrible negative attitude.

    • Anonymous

      You might want to check your facts. We have been consistently climbing in the ranks for years now. That is hard to attribute to just one governor considering based on the information from http://www.americashealthrankings.org we have been climbing since 2002.

      So please explain where has he destroyed our general health now?

      And I do not believe it was him who allowed the debt to the hospitals in this state climb so high. Believe it or not, contrary to our federal government and its actions, you do have to pay your debts off eventually. Rather than just push it off to another administration, he is actually trying to take care of something left over by a previous administration.

      • Anonymous

        “Rather than just push it off to another administration, he is actually trying to take care of something left over by a previous administration.”

        Oh, like our President.

        Got it.

        • Anonymous

          “Oh, like our President.

          Got it.”

          No, you really don’t get it. LePage has only had less than two years to turn things around. Obama has had more than three years, almost an eternity. Huge difference.

          • Macroeconomics (at the national scale) naturally move on a much slower pace than do the relatively microeconomics of a state. It’s an apples to oranges comparison. Steering a battleship vs steering a yacht.

            The effects of Obama’s policies should start to show within the next several years, as should the effects of LePage’s policies on the state – in the same relative time period. Dismissing either as failures at this point in the game is jumping the gun.

            Though if anyone is honest, they’ll admit that all economic factors can’t be controlled by either presidents or governors.

          • Anonymous

            I appreciate your saying yacht instead of dinghy. It’s a kinder metaphor.

          • The gov steers the yacht, Captain Smith captains the dinghy. ;D

          • Anonymous

            No not really. In fact, not at all.

          • Anonymous

            “almost an eternity”?

  • Anonymous

    The Maine DHHS Certificate of Need office recently approved the sale of EMMC dialysis clinics to Davita. Davita now operates all of EMMC’s dialysis services here in Bangor, and in Ellsworth and Lincoln. In late November, CNN’s Wolfe Blitzer did an expose on the whistle blower lawsuit charging that Davita is guilty of wasting tons of medicine and billing it to Medicare/Medicaid. If this allegation is true, then this will be the biggest case of Medicare fraud in US history. If this is the kind of business that Governor LePage wants for Maine, then we are in big trouble. Davita settled a similar lawsuit in July for $55,000,000. The current one alleges that Davita bilked Medicare for $800,000,000.

    • Anonymous

      Gee, Medicare/Medicaid is run by the feds…..not the State of Maine….How is this valid?

      • Anonymous

        This valid in that Davita now operates in our community and they will likely put profits ahead of patients. If the allegations are true in this whistle blower lawsuit, and medications were given to enhance profits rather than give safe high quality healthcare, then we are in trouble. Overuse of the drug Epogen, (which was the reason for the July whistleblower lawsuit settlement), can cause blood clots and strokes. How many patients were harmed by that overuse? This is valid because the pursuit of profits can harm patients….this is a VERY valid concern. Medicare covers many Mainers and so does Medicaid. In fact, Medicare covers ANY dialysis patient, regardless of age or income.

      • Anonymous

        Get rid of the Federal Government.

        • Bill Cat

          Watch that kind of talk, 50% of the neighbors are on SSDI or SSI!

          • Anonymous

            I think your numbers are low.

        • Cool…so who gets the nukes?

      • Anonymous

        private business does “do it better”, they are just better at ripping the system ( aka taxpayers) off

      • Anonymous

        EXCEPT that Medicaid (aka Mainecare) is ADMINISTERED (i.e. RUN), by the state. So, yeah, it’s valid.

    • Anonymous

      Great point! And here is LePage giving insurance companies huge profit breaks at the expense of Mainers:

      http://www.iwatchnews.org/2011/10/06/6883/analysis-health-insurers-win-big-maine

      bangordailynews.com/2012/09/04/health/report-young-mainers-pay-less-for-health-coverage-elderly-pay-more-under-insurance-law/

      • StillRelaxin

        Paul’s history certainly does seem to lend credence to the fact that if it’s dirty business then it’s his kind of business. Remember the last time Forbes placed us last, Paul lashed out at them. Getting no traction on that, he’s now reverting to his good old SOP of attacking Maine and mainers themselves. He’s certainly a pathetic example of a leader or representative.

  • Anonymous

    Governor, your arguments would carry more weight if your facts were correct. In addition, other than bad mouthing our state, our state employees, our immigrants – which account for many people’s grandparents in Maine, (yours, mine,…) our work force, our schools, and our businesses: What are you doing to help and how is it helping?

    Although each case is different, that claim doesn’t add up, according to MaineDepartment of Health and Human Services officials.

    PERCEPTION: Maine spends more money on welfare than most other states

    In raw dollars spent on Medicaid and welfare — $2.5 billion in 2008 — Maine ranked 33rd nationwide, according to the U.S. Census.

    However, as a percentage of the total annual budget — 30.5 percent — Maine ranked second after Tennessee (32.8 percent), it said.

    When only state and local spending is compared, Maine ranked 10th in spending per resident — $671 — in 2007, according to the Census and a University of Maine analysis.

    From Oct. 18, 2010 Portland Press Herald. Before Donald Sussman Purchased it.

    By John Richardson jrichardson@mainetoday.com
    State House Bureau

    • Anonymous

      Too funny, using 2007 -2008 numbers…..alot has happened in the State of Maine since then. And, are we proud to ranked 33 out of 50 in welfare? And that was way back then, I wonder what the real numbers are today…..?

  • Anonymous

    he had 2 years and a Republican legislature to improve it and he didn’t…

    • Anonymous

      well he did put up some signs and take down a mural .

      • Anonymous

        Don’t forget the fireworks that are still banned by most Maine towns.

  • Anonymous

    If we’re so broke we shouldn’t have cut taxes. We should have paid the hospitals and other bills before doing so.

    If LePage is opposed to “big government” why does he want to buy electricity from HydroQuebec, a government-owned utility?

    • Anonymous

      why is revenue a sacred cow. there are no free lunches.

    • Anonymous

      that’s some really interesting logic.

    • Anonymous

      and why did he run for office .

    • Anonymous

      PRICE!!!, Sad you didn’t know that..

    • Anonymous

      Do you realize we already have the power lines from Canada running though our state? These power lines supplies the big cities south of Maine with power with lower rates then we have in Maine. My question is why? Maybe we should ask Mr. Baldy.

  • Anonymous

    Well, Gov. you’ve said it like it is. Now, what are you doing to fix things?????? You made so many campaign promises that you have not kept. Put up or shut up!!!!

    • Anonymous

      unfortunatey, he won’t shut up.

  • Anonymous

    So, let me get this straight. We were last when he was elected and we’re last now. Accomplished a lot in two years, I see.

    • westshores

      I’m not a fan of our Governor’s style-it’s atrocious at times. However, he’s dead on in his assessment of our economy. We didn’t get in this situation in two years and it will take all of us working together much longer to fix it. For example-he’s an advocate for natural service being available across the state. He’s right-my heating and hot water bill was $86.00 for November with my natural gas furnace…what was yours?

      • Anonymous

        I like some of the things he’s pushed through, like the five year limit on welfare. I just don’t like his negative attitude. I would think after two years, he could say something positive. Or look at it this way – how psyched would you be to play for a coach that has his attitude. “You’re all lazy, you have no talent and you’re all losers and you’ll always be losers. Now, go out and give it your best effort.”

        • Anonymous

          Oh no can’t say loser, golly gee whiz and holy smoke, it’s Last Winner,

    • Anonymous

      Do you also see that it took the Progressives almost half a century to create the nightmare that we’re living right now? Blame the Governor if that makes you feel better but just remember that it was your chronic “Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!” that became our “Gotcha! Gotcha! Gotcha!”

      • Anonymous

        You’re funny. You assume all liberals are takers; sorry, you are mistaken but then again, most right wingers are usually on their well deserved dole
        So explain why he ran promising he could change things? Either he lied or failed.

        • Anonymous

          Sorry, you assume that one must choose from your two false choices. Another choice has a lot to do with obstructionists…(whoever that might be)…unless you would recant accusations that US Senate Republicans are being obstructionists in the way of Obama the Magnificent.

          • Anonymous

            Ah, the old “LePage can’t fix it in two years” so let’s change the subject and complain that Obama couldn’t fix it four years. Typical.

      • Anonymous

        he has had 2 years and he has done NOTHING to improve the business climate. he had a republican legislature as well. I’m not saying he could have solved all the problems in 2 years, but he has done NOTHING.

        • Anonymous

          Incorrect. The business community is well aware of his efforts and the challenges he faces.

          • Anonymous

            your comment assumes the business community supports him. These busy business people who clear their schedules to meet the Governor , are absolutely baffled by him. He allows no questions and leaves the venues in a cloud of dust.
            Maine may not be an easy place to do business, but there are many that are successful. He just met with two successful chambers of commerce and missed the opportunity to interact people who know how money gets made here in the State of Maine.

          • Anonymous

            There are detractors in every group.

    • Anonymous

      And that with a R dominated State House.

  • westshores

    Our Governor is a pretty good song writer. He should never sing though.

  • Anonymous

    People may not like what LePage says or even how he says it, but he’s telling the truth. Maine does have an aging population, we do have higher taxes, energy costs are higher and we do pay out way too much in entitlement programs.

    Those are facts and they aren’t LePage’s fault. The same people that blame LePage for our current issues are the ones that will tell you Obama is NOT to blame for our current issues, it’s all Bush’s fault. Seems contradictory to blame predecessors in one instance and the current office holder in another. The criticisms are more often tied to party affiliation than fact.

    Maybe LePage could do a better job with his delivery of information, but it doesn’t change the fact that the man is right. Maine needs to fix our broken entitlement programs so we can help those that need help and keep the slackers out of our wallets. We need to offer tax incentives to businesses so they’ll move here and create jobs. We need to find clean, inexpensive energy alternatives. We need to repay our debts. Those are facts. Love or hate it, it’s the truth.

    • 3rd rail

      It’s not his delivery, we all know what the problems are. But what he won’t face is what they wont face on the Federal level. And that is the wealthy paying their fair share. He’s trying to do it on the backs of the poor. There is only so much blood you can get.

      • honey777

        And maybe businesses don’t want to come here because of Lepage’s bigoted comments that make Maine look ridiculous to the rest of the country.

        • Anonymous

          Whatdjya say? Let’s hear that one more time…

      • Anonymous

        how much is a fair share? what percentage of earnings should they pay?

        • This Charming Man

          How about the SAME RATE as everybody else, for starters !

          It’s not rocket science ! ! !

          • Anonymous

            What rate might that be? do tell!

    • Anonymous

      Totally wrong. We need to stop giving to the rich, who don’t give back to us. Trickle down does not work. Even George H. W. Bush called it “voodoo economics.”

      If you read a history book it will show you that power corrupts–and the rich are already much more powerful than they were even a decade ago. They have quadrupled their wealth, even as the rest of us stagnate, and many can’t even afford a doctor.

    • Anonymous

      of course not only are you 100% correct, sprucey says you are 100% wrong

      sprucey, when the other states are offering tax incentives for companies to move there, Maine must do the same, or it cannot compete.

      there was once a Chinese immigrant who applied to the state for a grant (about $25-35000, if I recall correctly). This immigrant wanted to open a Chinese restaurant on route 1 around the Sheepscot bridge. The locals war all up in arms… “why does someone who never paid a cent in taxes get that kind of grant, when we get nothing?”
      it did not seem right.
      well, within a year, the restaurant had generated far more money in meals tax, state income tax for the 15 newly hired employees and other intangible revenue (people visiting other shops because they wanted to go to this new one) than what was paid out in state grant money…. then every year after the first, the state continued to rake in the dollars.
      I think that this “corporate welfare” was money well spent.
      some people understand this and some people never will.

      • Anonymous

        You mean that place that had the illegal aliens working for them?

  • Anonymous

    Nice Cut & Paste job.

  • Anonymous

    One positive way that Landslide LePage can help the aging population situation in Maine is for him to move out.

  • Anonymous

    What a bunch of bunk…..and you have to post as Guest?

  • Anonymous

    wow, something gov. lepage and i actually agreed on: hydroelectric power is the way to go. i suppose its a start.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, repeating a business report makes Our Governor Bad.. Wow!!.. I guess the Liberals aready knew this and are pleased with the report.. “Liberal motto” Make people dependant and get their votes.. The sooner the people realize liberals want the poupulation poor. Poverty and Fear gets them votes by handing out crumbs instead creating a business climate that makes people want to do business here.

    • Anonymous

      You are so wrong. Most liberal want people to have jobs that provide a living wage and allow them to support their families. We are sick and tired of the allmighty corporation being praised while the people who earn their money for them continue to be disrespected and hated.

  • BDN Ombudsman

    Maine just got a lot more unfriendly to business in the last election. New Hampshire is looking better and better for my small business. Most Mainers realize that New Hampshire has no income tax, no sales tax, less expensive energy and less expensive health insurance. But what most Mainers don’t know is that NH also has lower property taxes in most areas. I started looking in the Conway area recently as a place to relocate and I expected the property taxes to be higher to cover for the lack of other revenues. I was stunned. Now I am just waiting to see what this legislature does. If they try to expand sales tax to my business or raise taxes higher than they already are, i will be gone in a heartbeat.

    • Anonymous

      Bye Bye!

    • Anonymous

      I seem to remember you threatening to leave Maine on several occassions Tag.

    • Anonymous

      In general, property taxes are higher in NH. Health insurance is higher in NH. I was paying over $18,000 per year as Harvard Pilgrim tried to force me into the risk pool because of a preexisting condition. There is no free lunch. I know I lived in NH for about 30 years. NH is friendlier for business with regards to fewer fees. .

    • Anonymous

      I guess you haven’t talked to my NH relatives about property tax!

  • Anonymous

    so, let me ask this question…this is the 3rd year in a row that Maine has been named the worst state for business. He’s been in office for almost 2 years…what has he done other than run down our state and our people and try to cut out the poor?

    • Anonymous

      it’s difficult to unravel 20 years of democratic rule in just 2 years.

      • Anonymous

        whether it be republican or democratic I don’t give a flying f…. My point is except for his putting the state and the people who live here down what exactly has he done. I am well aware that things can’t be fixed overnight but except for cutting the help that some Mainers need what has he done to entice new business into the state? Would you bring a business to a state where even their own governor is putting it down? Seriously? I’ve never been one to play the blame game. I would rather direct my energy into fixing the situation. So…again I ask, what are we doing to fix this?

        • Anonymous

          I would bring a business into a state that has been chronically hostile to business when that state’s leadership finally admits they have a problem and then starts to show a turn around. The second hasn’t happened yet…yet.

          The buffoonery with the voter fraud and mural would give me pause, but as a business owner, I’d go where it’s good for my business to grow. Businesses don’t have some personal bent against Maine; they stay away for solid reasons, the standard “slave wages” and “befouling the Earth” blather notwithstanding.

      • Anonymous

        He should get started, at least.

        The Republicans gained control and what did they do? They launched a yearlong divisive battle over same-day voter registration.

        Okay, they legalized fireworks too.

        It’d be nice if we had a Governor who showed support for Maine, instead of derision and scorn for Mainers and state employees.

  • Anonymous

    Well Pauly you’ve had 2 years and we’re still in the basement no thanks to your master plan which as near as we can all figure out is nothing more than a bunch of p*ssing and whining and moaning on your part about how it’s everyone else’s fault….so what have you improved ? Where are the jobs ? How are we competitive ? You compare this state to Florida which is a state that is an ongoing laughable cluster in every realm- economically, socially, politically and the list goes on. Sorry Pauly I fail to see that you have accomplished anything in the last 2 years and I doubt that will change within the next 2……and we all know you won’t be back post 2014…..thankfully. So go back to Florida you’ll fit in just fine. Buh Bye.

  • Anonymous

    No I do not think he likes this state. thats why he ran for Gov.
    so he could really destroy it. And so far he has done a great job
    of that.

    • 3rd rail

      His heart lays in Canada. He’s greased them so much it ain’t funny. And has the nerve to tell Mainers tighten the belt up. He’s already got most of us eating macaroni & cheese 6 days a week.

      • Tyke

        He has immediate family in Canada and lived there for many years himself.

  • Anonymous

    WE were last when he was elected, we will be last when he leaves, the only thing the fellow can do, is get digs in on the elderly, sick, poor, and struggling Mainers. What really needs to be done is a major education over haul, I agree with him there, but, we need a one-percent state tax to support the schools. We, Maine, are at the end of the transportation loop, as and fuel is costly, we need our trains back, there are enough workers, here, there just is no real work or jobs that will support a family,
    so, he better get used to some welfare, until we can raise the income of our workers to an independent state.

  • Anonymous

    Civilization destroyed…?

  • Anonymous

    Excuses, excuses. It’s been years and all he does is blame everyone and everything else, yet nothing has changed. He’s all hat and no cattle.

    • 3rd rail

      _________________________”Where’s the Beef”___________________________

      the macaroni & cheese is gett’n old governor, how about somre that government cheese you been sending to Canada, where starving down here governor.

      Merry Christmas (ya rat ba—rd)

      • Anonymous

        All sizzle, no steak.

    • Anonymous

      You are right. He’s acting like Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Next time be brief and to the point. After the third sentence people move on.

  • Anonymous

    Govenor this is Forbe’s opinion. I certainly hope you do not rely completely on this information.

  • HowdyNeighbor

    Forbes and LePage are right. Maine taxed us right out of the state. We took our business and all our employees with us.

    • Anonymous

      I think you’re BS’ing.

    • maineiac123

      Is your nose growing?

      • Guest

        That nose must be dragging on the ground…..

      • HowdyNeighbor

        We moved in 2011 and all our employees left Maine, too. Didn’t have to twist their arms to do it. They, too, no longer pay state income tax and their cost of living is now lower, too. Health insurance is significantly less now. It’s unfortunate that all the money we used to give to Maine businesses is now being spent elsewhere and the Maine charities we supported aren’t getting our support anymore, either. There’s a huge ripple effect when a state taxes businesses so much that they are forced to move. We helped support local restaurants and other merchants and we donated quite a bit to Maine charities over the years. We now support businesses and charities near our new home and they are very happy to have us here. And, since we aren’t paying money to the state, we have even more money to share with our neighborhood merchants and charities.

        • maineiac123

          Is your nose still growing?

        • Preston Nethercutt

          OK Howdy. Now, if you want anyone to take your post seriously, please tell us the name of your (real) business and where you (really) moved it to. Otherwise it will be difficult for anyone to think of you as anything other than a dissembling minor troll. Thanks in advance for providing that verifiable information,

          • HowdyNeighbor

            I certainly would if Maine didn’t have a reputation for going after folks who leave the state. Our CPA in Bangor had some horror stories to tell. One in particular was a story about a guy (a client of our CPA) who owned a home in Maine where his daughter lived but he lived in another state. His daughter was attending college in Maine. He worked in that other state and a third state as well. Maine sued him for Maine income taxes based on pay he earned while he was living and working OUTSIDE of Maine simply because he’d never had his mail forwarded to his new home in the other state. He had his daughter sift through his mail and then send it to him. For that reason, Maine sued him for back taxes because they said he wasn’t really a resident of that other state simply because he never had his mail forwarded. Ridiculous. No way am I going to expose our family and our business to that type of lunacy. And, what possible reason would I have to lie about any of this? None whatsoever. I’m just trying to warn other businesses about setting up shop in Maine. That was a huge mistake on our part.

  • It’s mostly a PR problem with LePage. He is his own, and the Republicans own, worst enemy. I concede we have issues that need work. Though LePage’s governing style, and cut and paste one size fits all legislation, is not the answer.

    Maine needs a moderate, long term approach if we’re going to be successful. Baldacci + LePage / 2 in 2014. :D

  • Anonymous

    Another speech by Tea Party Paulie and he again does what he is ever so good at doing. Putting down Maine and her people. In almost two years in office can anyone recall him ever saying one single positive thing about our State? Every opportunity he gets he puts down this great State. Imagine if a high school football or basketball coach constantly put down their team the same way LePage does Maine. How long do you think the parents would put up with that? This person has been Governor of the State of Maine for almost two years. He had majorities in both the State Senate and House. He could have passed just about anything he wanted, But Maine still ranks last. Maine has one of the oldest populations in the country, mostly people who worked all their lives at low income jobs. They don’t have much saved. They couldn’t save, most spent everything they earned on their family’s basic needs. Of course they need help. He cites Florida as far as education is concerned. He talked about the number of School Superintendents and how Florida has less then Maine. I spend approximately 5 months out of the year in Florida and believe me there are not very many people singing the praises of Florida’s educational system. In Florida School Superintendent is an elected position in most Counties. School administration is packed with what Howie Carr calls “hacks”. What he forgot to mention is that while Maine is rising in education on a National level Florida is sinking. Why did you leave out that little bit of information Tea Party Paulie? He talks about the cost of energy.He attempted to get legislation passed to change existing laws on energy and even his Tea Party Controlled Legislature wouldn’t go along with him, Could it be that even his supporters in the Legislature saw it for what it was another one of his sell outs to special interest? Maine is a rural State and because it is houses, unlike in a State with more urban populations, are spread apart. There are simply less homes per mile of electric transmission lines then in States where the population is more centralized. The cost of installing and maintaining a mile of power lines is pretty much the same here as in other states. If there are 200 customers per mile in one State and 10 per mile in another State which one has the highest cost per customer mile? Unfortunately Maine would be the State with less customers per mile. Paulie failed to mention that fact. Have our politicians mismanaged our State in the past? Of course they have. Is LePage managing it any better? He is spending more money then his predecessor did. Are Maine people doing better now then they were two years ago? The numbers say no. On November 6th Maine voters went to the polls and dealt a crushing defeat to the Tea Party Republicans. In doing so they also showed their displeasure with the LePage Administration.

  • Guest

    He should move now.

  • Anonymous

    LePage ran away from an abusive household, we’ve all heard. It’s ironic that Mainers now seem to be in an abusive relationship with our governor— he never has anything nice to say about the state he leads, instead leveling criticism and scorn on Mainers and state employees alike.

    I think it’s clear that Mainers will leave this abusive relationship as soon as we have the chance.

    • Anonymous

      Refreshing to hear him speak the truth!

      • Anonymous

        Thank you, I do try to speak the truth.

  • Anonymous

    are you also mad at forbes for placing us last in business?

  • Anonymous

    It is a disappointment that the Governor, who among his many duties has an obligation to be the “face”/leader/advertiser-in-chief for the State, is ALWAYS in the news saying negative things about us. Even if some of the things he says are true (and many of them are not), the man has no tact. From reading the article, one might think that he is seriously considering replacing those “open for business” signs with ones that say “worst state for business,” or “the most generous welfare state in the country.”

    The last statement, by the way, is a lie. We’re not even the most generous state in New England. In fact, with respect to TANF, we’re last in “generosity” in New England, according to the Maine Equal Justice Partners: http://www.mejp.org/PDF/report11.pdf

    • Anonymous

      I am not a big fan of our governor, but I’d rather hear him pour some cold water on some people rather than hear a Bad News Denier telling the masses that the rating is wrong, mean-spirited, or wouldn’t be so accurate if it weren’t for those (big corporations/rich people/Tea Partiers/take your pick).

      • Well, optimism and perception are important. Part of economic recovery is simply in “consumer confidence”. Getting the mob to start spending their money instead of stuffing it in the mattress. That’s why as statistically questionable as some of the government reports we hear are, positive spin can make success a self-fulfilling prophecy. Get enough people spending like the recession is over and it soon will be. ;)

        • Anonymous

          70 percent of the US GDP is based on consumer spending.

          • Yes…that’s why as annoyed as I get with my wife sometimes for buying superfluous services and stuff (I am cheap I admit), I always try to smile and remind myself that she’s just doing our part to “stimulate the economy”. :P

  • Anonymous

    no we’re broke because you pay your daughter $40,000 a year starting pay to be your assistant, and you pay your brother in law $60,000 a year to be a consultant.. I thought you did’nt believe in nepitism???? at least that was on your campaign promise….

    • Anonymous

      So there’s $100,000 (plus benefits & perks) per year that Governor Paul LePage funnels directly to his family each and every year.

    • Anonymous

      How many people did John Baldacci pay as consultants, George McHale got 150K per year plus benies.
      He also sat free of charge on the Gamming commission and received bonuses from the radio station he worked on for all the great money the advertizers paid to his show. encluding the Slots parlor which he regulated.

  • Anonymous

    Shame on the BDN for reporting this! Aren’t you aware that the Governor is vehemently opposed to “trackers,” nit-pickingly reporting every single embarrassing thing he says?

  • Anonymous

    He’s actually correct. We recently closed our business, got rid of everyone. Partly because of the State bullcrap paerwork, but mostly because of the pinhead in the Whitehouse that refuses to allow us to explore for, and utilize the oil, and natural gas we have right here in our own country. So it does go beyond the state lines. If you never owned a business here, you will not understand it. Did you know that a business pays additional taxes on fuel oil for heating. Why? The state was already making 5% sales tax on everything we sold, but that is never enough. Good job Mr Lepage. Sometimes the truth hurts.

    • Anonymous

      My business is doing just fine.
      Stop blaming someone else for your failed business venture.
      You knew what the costs are, you knew those costs could rise, you failed.

      • Anonymous

        Good for you. I have another business that has been successfull for 16 years and it is rewarding to see hard work pay off. The other business i was refering to was a tourist driven type business. The tourism dropped like a rock when gas prices reached $4. I was not blaming anyone but the folks in washington for the stupid decisions being made that directly affect every business, yours too. So yes, that particular venture did not work out, others have.

    • Tyke

      You closed a Maine business because you couldn’t explore for oil?
      .
      Sure you did
      .
      btw: Are you aware that under Obama oil production in the US is at an 8 year high … and yeah, natural gas is up too.

    • maineiac123

      Gave me a chuckle at least with the absurdities you claimed.

  • asportsfan

    Once again he criticizes education. Way to go, LePage. Thanks for the support.

  • Anonymous

    I guess we can prepare to send an apology to Puerto Rico now. They probably will not find the governor’s comment as funny as his business pals did. I also could not help but notice that he is still trying to blame our social costs for our bad business climate when Forbes has still not cited this as a contributing factor. These nods to the Koch brothers are getting cumbersome indeed.

  • Anonymous

    As usual i see all the haters are out in force.Attacking Mr Lepage for telling the truth about the past 30 years of democrat decline.The truth is kryptonite to the progressive spin monkeys.Wonder if any of these democrats are going to send our hospitals a Christmas card for balancing their budgets.Not a statement from any of these parents cellar governors from the left on how to fix the problem other than get the neighbor to pay.

    • This Charming Man

      He’s saying the same tired things he’s always said, and so are you.

      Maybe people would be less critical if there were actual solutions being proposed for a change, as opposed to the endless and tiresome rhetoric…

      Now, if you’re really concerned with the cost of health care in Maine, how about addressing the reasons it’s a crisis. The outrageous increase in the cost of all healthcare the last 15 + years, an aging population, young people leaving as soon as they can, poverty among the elderly…

      Somehow just giving the wealthy tax breaks is supposed to magically solve Maine’s multiple, serious issues, which LePage rarely even bothers to elucidate upon ?

      Sounds like sheer delusion to me…

  • Anonymous

    You are right Paul! Why don’t you pack your bags and move back to your Florida home. Maybe they will appreciate you more there.

  • Superuser23

    Now if LePage would say “The people are right to call me the worst Governor of this state” we might might believe more of what he says.

  • Anonymous

    While LePage might have points regarding using too many superintendents for the number of students, where I’d rather have more teachers than administrators and promoting hydro-electric power as a clean renewable energy source, the Forbes article was predominantly focused on pure profit measures.

    So, the locations with warmer temperatures would benefit from lower heating costs. Locations with lower standards of living/cost of living, same thing, because it means that profits would be higher because they could pay employees less. When you actually looked at growth rates and predicted growth rates, the rankings seem to not to care, where low growth rates, some probably lower than Maine’s, were among the top states for business.

    In general, the rankings mean very little other than political soundbites. Sure, other states may have cheaper costs, but Maine also has a lot going for it, given that we actually promote growth.

  • Anonymous

    Thats Since Hes Been Gov.Dam* He*stupid!

  • Anonymous

    It’s Maine, what do you expect?

  • Anonymous

    Your a total Loser LePage. At least now you admit it. Your leadership is PATHETIC. Go back to Canada where you belong.

    • No . . . they’d just send him to Mississippi. That’s where he belongs.

  • LePage has the lowest possible regard for Mainers, and what was the reference to Puerto Rico all about? I hope Latino Mainers call him out on that.

    • I doubt he meant anything racist, though given the shape of the economy in Puerto Rico, it’s obviously not a well informed “joke”.

      Nice to see you BB – you still hanging around PPH?

    • Anonymous

      Have missed you!!!

  • Anonymous

    I regret voting for Lepage over the fireworks cr-p But Lepage is not the cause of a worst state for business, the others before him were,mostly Democrats,governors, and some Republicans. I will be living elsewhere the next time he runs for governor so i wont be able to vote for anyone else besides him, but the worst state for business belongs to BEFORE his administration.

  • Although I somewhat agree with the Governor on the “double dipping” thing, it is not breaking the state and does save money that would be paid to non-retired managers in benefits. It just seems unfair. The Governor protests because he will not have an opportunity to do the same. People with his personality issues cannot separate themselves from a situation and have difficulty being objective. This is a bitter man.

    What have you people done?

  • Anonymous

    And yet the best that he could do was to put up a sign “Open For Business”. The sooner that LePage leaves……..the better off the state will be.

    • Tyke

      Now wait a durn minute … he also created 2 jobs for his unqualified relatives too!

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Lepage- Let’s hear the positive side on what you are going to do to get us off the Top 10.

  • Briney

    Don’t chuckle, but Le Page is listed as one of the Eight Worst Governors in the United States.

    He shares the listing with such notables as his pal – Rick Perry of Texas, Jan Brewer of Arizona, Rick Scott of Florida, and Scott Walker of Michigan and others. So don’t expect him to say anything complimentary about Maine.

    And, even though billionaire Forbes delights Le Page and the the C of C crowd with his Maine put downs, he still loves to hog the Northeast Harbor pier in summer with his half block motor yacht.

    http://www.alternet.org/story/150392/the_8_worst_governors_in_america

  • Anonymous

    This is by far and away the most intelligent thing this man has ever said at any time during his tenure as Governor. Unfortunately he garnered most of his speach directly from Forbes itself….but hey, its a start.

  • This Charming Man

    Wait… I thought LePage promised us he’d make Maine more business-friendly…

    Is this a tacit admission of his administrations ineptitude ?

  • Anonymous

    Here is a Story about Burts Bee’s . An Ultra Liberal Company and why it moved out of Maine, during the years the liberals had control for over 30 years.. Quote; The Bureaucracy became tiresome.. http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/burt-s-bees-inc-history/

    • Guest

      You and your relentless Chicken Little posts are tiresome!

      • Anonymous

        Just Stating what a Liberal said about doing business in Maine.
        Bothersome to I bet when you are trying to hide the truth from the public..

        • Guest

          Bothersome are your sky is falling posts that are basically nothing but lies.

          • Anonymous

            Steven King left Maine because of the 75% death tax John Baldacci put in Place.. Most Extreme Ultra Wealthy Left the State durning that time period,, Never to return ever.. We lost the 8.5% Maine State income Tax we were receiving from Steven King which added up to millons a year because of that and he is just one of the people. Tell me the Liberals are business friendly.

          • The Kings are snowbirds. They still have two homes in Maine. What are you going on about?

            Here’s a nice piece from Stephen, what do you think of this?

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/30/stephen-king-tax-me-for-f-s-sake.html

          • So he proves he’s not a liar by..wait for it…lying? You’ve been pwned. ;)

      • Anonymous

        Heck I’m A full 100% Democrat.

        • Guest

          Uh huh sure you are and I’m a tea bagger….. don’t tread on me. lol!

          • Anonymous

            I am Waiting for my party to put up some credible candates.. To bad the rest of my party are partisan

  • Anonymous

    Worst in the country for business,best in the country for welfare give aways ,no wonder folks who want to work leave and those who don’t come via the hopeless house and other such establishments.I used to wonder why all those folks at the hope house were always so happy when I would drive by on my way to work ,this explains it they have never had it so good.

  • Anonymous

    Hasn’t LePage been around long to have changed that rating???

  • FarmerTom

    Look at the metrics Forbes uses: average age of the population is one. How is LePage–or anyone for that matter– going to “work to change that”? Lower energy costs would be nice, but geography plays a large part in energy costs.

    More than that, though, people need to consider what “business” means. Forbes is talking Big B Business. Maine is all about small b business– And that’s not a bad thing. Places with Big B Business are subject to many ills that we may not want. For starters, a large firm with hundreds or thousands of employees is nice– until they decide they want to relocate elsewhere. Then all the sudden a region is hit with massive unemployment, plummeting real estate vales, destruction of local tax base.

    As for school districts, I am pretty certain that no business considering an operation in Maine is worried that there are too many school superintendents. As for the notion that Maine has high taxes, compare Maine to other states that you might want to live in… Maine is one of the best states in the nation in which to live– There are plenty of states with lower taxes, not so many in which I’d be interested in moving… http://www.retirementliving.com/taxes-by-state

  • Anonymous

    Maine ranked as the 3nd ‘worst state for business” in the country

    The year? 2007
    The governor? John Baldacci
    The party in office? Democrats

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xtk8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=XS4MAAAAIBAJ&pg=5284,2488092&dq=maine+rated+worst+for+business&hl=en

    • Otis B. Driftwood

      yup…and now were dead last, brought to us by the tea baggie lunatic, Paulie LaPudge.

      • Anonymous

        But it is not like Maine was one of the best states or even just an average state for business when Lepage took over, than it sank to worst.
        It was next to the worst of 50 already.

        I dont think Lepage should take 100% of the blame. I’d say about 3% of the blame.

        • Otis B. Driftwood

          Your logic is way off, considering the republicons have been blaming Obama, for the economy that wonder boi bush and the republicans drove into the ground.

  • Anonymous

    ….so stop making it nearly impossible to start a business here….and stop trying to over regulate the ones here…….and get off the over taxation of EVERYONE

  • Anonymous

    and yet the tax foundation, an arm of the heritage foundation, put Maine squarely in the middle of the pack on ” business friendly ” at #30 .

  • Anonymous

    He got in trouble with this report last year. Now he’s just agreeing with it and placing blame squarely on anyone other than himself. Frustration, and anger are two emotions that ought to be discussed. How about this: BDN or others: Do a poll of the Governor’s approval rating, prior to the new Legislature convening, Then: do one next summer….we’ll see how it ends up. The man doesn’t care about this State, he care about his style and personal politics. (That’s my opinion…..I welcome yours)

    • Anonymous

      Here is mine. Tobloid John Baldacci having pictures with the Girlscouts and every other group every day for 8 years and it being printed in the paper as news, got us in to this mess.. Since liberals like the Tabloid Paris Hilton style governor John Baldacci who sold us out to debt to balance budgets

      • Guest

        Huh????

        • Anonymous

          I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

          • Guest

            I would if you would make sense once in a while.

      • Anonymous

        Real nice how he and the rest of the spendocrats balanced the budget on the backs of our health care providers!Pay raises for all!

  • “Blame, Shame, and Punish” . . .

    “Blame, Shame, and Punish” . . .

    “Blame, Shame, and Punish” . . .

    . . . and on it goes . . . It will cost him his election. If only he could find positive ways to promote business rather that through negative perceptions of people, but I suppose that’s not how he’s hardwired. It’s sad.

  • Anonymous

    I could give two rats butts for anything Lepage thinks. And as far as what Forbes thinks? So freakin’ what! Dump Lepage.

  • Otis B. Driftwood

    And Paulie LaPudge is the worst governor in the USA, so it’s a complimentary no brainier that Maine is in last place in every category.

  • Anonymous

    F the Forbes List,
    And F the Gov and his supporters of the TeaRadical Agenda!
    Shame on those that are willing to sell out your fellow countrymen and State so Maine can emulate anywhere USA and be a corporate wasteland!

    • Anonymous

      What is wrong with you, that you believe your own lies

      • Anonymous

        And F your Free Market.

  • Judging from the vote last month looks like the majority of votes want Maine to stay last. New state slogan should be, “Maine the workers paradise”

    • No, the “worker’s paradise” doesn’t get to vote, a process you obviously dislike.

      The vote did not go as I had wished, BUT the majority of people decided to keep the status quo in Washington (They need more time) but change things in Augusta.

      Despite my disappointment I will live with that knowing I have the chance to help change things in another two years.

      I like our system. It is tough, resilient, and egalitarian. NOONE ever made a dime betting against the USA.

  • Anonymous

    LePage is a sad excuse for a Governor. You’re not suppose to agree with Forbes you’re suppose to change it.

  • Anonymous

    I see the truth is being thrown in the spendocrats face.By the way they can only personally attack Mr Lepage for throwing that s… pie they created back in their face.I would conclude they do not like hearing or can accept the truth.Mainers think it is bad now wait until this new bunch of credit card spenders get done.

  • Anonymous

    Go back to selling stained salvage clothing…

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Friday the federal reserves charter ends, unless renewed by congress. I hope they all went home for the holiday.

    • Anonymous

      The Federal Reserve can send the US into a recession or depression in a day if they wanted to,the private company that they are. Dont mess with them

    • Anonymous

      Yes! Let’s show the world and that only Wall Street is in control of our economy. Okay, let’s not.

  • tyuii

    i missed the part where he said he has a solution!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Now, Paul, as a businessman… saying “Maine – Open for Business”, and agreeing with Forbes? The state is just at the point of Salvage….

  • Anonymous

    I remember when our politicians used to take offense when someone from away made disparaging remarks about our fine state and they would demand an apology. Not our Paulie, he pats them on the back and agrees with them! lol.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see if we can find some water in the glass. You know – half full? Maine ranked number 17 in quality of life in the Forbes rankings. Quality of life is one of the factors contributing to the overall ranking. Here are the bottom ten states in terms of quality of life beginning with #50 – Louisiana, New Mexico, Alabama, Mississippi, Nevada, Arkansas, South Carolina, Alaska, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. (Nine of these states have Republican governors. That may not be important, but it is amusing.)

  • Gary Libby

    Well, if fuel and health care didn’t cost so much, you wouldn’t need higher taxes now would you?

  • Anonymous

    Barber Foods didn’t “close” they laid off 82 workers…..it’s a pretty vast difference

  • Anonymous

    Very Poor Video of what the Governor of the State of Maine really said, choppy, heavily edited, disjointed, and hard to follow….can’t we do better than this in this day and age?

  • I guess we wouldn’t expect the governor to accept any responsibility for the lackluster business climate. Isn’t that what his platform was about?
    Frankly Paul, Mardens would fire you with this performance.

    • Anonymous
      • Anonymous

        Happy to see you realizing that LePage is no better.. so much for the great white hope…

        • Anonymous

          I cant prove it, but Lepage’s legalization of fireworks likely brought down the property value of every house in Maine. But he is not responsible for the worst business state rating Others before him are.
          .

          • Anonymous

            Nice change of topic…

          • Anonymous

            The topic was related. I voted for Lepage, i regret it because of the foolish fireworks cr-p.. I wish he lost. I am showing my objectivity.
            But he is not responsible for the worst rating,others are.

  • shannon attwood

    It isn’t much fun for the employees either. Maine businessess, and there are always exceptions, are the bottom of the ethics chart.

  • Anonymous

    Maine history time!

    If you think Lepage is at fault for Maine being at fault for a bad business State, i challenge you to tell me another time in Maine history in the past 100 years when Maine was good for business. The reality is Maine has always been bad for business, but prove me wrong, Give me a decade Maine was a good state for business.

    • Lord Whiteman

      Maine is good for business right now. Lepage is a tool.

    • Just one decade? in the last 100 years?

      In the 1950’s we were shipping fish, shoes, lumber, blueberries, chicken, dairy products, and Christmas trees around the world. We had 15 fish factories in Lubec, 7 shoe factories in Old Town, military bases all over the State, and we were the second most popular tourist destination east of the Mississippi. We had paper mills running three shifts in Lincoln, Jay, Mexico, Woodland, and Oldtown. We had a textile mill in Machias, A tanning facility in Howland, A boat building facility in Rockland, and the world’s largest communications center (for defense purposes) in Cutler.

      I’ll say we were doing some ole good, and it was Federal policy which stopped that boom dead in its tracks. Nothing the State government could have done…. just like now!

  • Anonymous

    And now we have greenies wanting to take all the dams out.

    • Anonymous

      Amen! And otherwise fighting every initiative designed to improve the business climate!

  • Anonymous

    Paulie must have been in his glory today. The opportunity to insult as many people as possible in one speech must have made his day.

  • Anonymous

    Maine is geographically useless. It is out of the way and only touches one other state. It is not a through-way for anything. It is the last stop on the line. There is no geographic incentive to place a business here. It isn’t energy costs, it is sheer convenience and the lack thereof.

  • Anonymous

    Clearly, we need a new sign on I-95. One that says “Paul Lepage bad for business, and bad for Maine.”

  • Anonymous

    Forbes measures how Corporate friendly you are, they became irrelevant years ago. Small businesses make up the back bone of Maine, we don’t need to sell out to the big corporate thieves.

  • FELT

    I’m departing from LePage on this. I believe he’s posturing to get a political advantage for his initiatives to provide regulatory relief, but as an entrepreneur; today’s Maine offers ‘cheap’ space, labor, and other advantages for anyone who wants to set up a new enterprise that complements the existing retail and service infrastructure, or can manufacture a new product which can be sold out of state.

    I found out I can set up a business that would cost me 10x in a major urban area, and can make mistakes that I can recover from.

    I see advantages, BUT you still have to get customers and that’s extremely difficult in Maine. What it forces the entrepreneur to do is to make a superior product to what someone can get via the Internet or through other providers. STONEWALL kitchen makes a variety of preserves, etc. with superior taste, and has found customers who will pay the price for the ‘quality’.

    Quality always sells, and that’s what a state with a bad business climate forces you to meet. It also forces you to discuss your product and services face to face with your customers/clientele. AND THAT’s THE REAL SECRET OF SUCCESS.

    The heart of LL BEAN’s success is ‘product returns’…..Every wonder why they take every thing back? They want to know exactly why someone returned an item so they can make it better, and better, AND BETTER. I think there were 40 versions of the Bean boot.

    So it’s a combination of failure and dogged determination to make it better and better that is the key to success…..and you can ‘fail’ in Maine at less cost than any other area in the U.S.

    • I’m impressed. Interesting perspective.

      • FELT

        A chance discussion with a customer who headed Bean’s Product Return’s dept enlightened me.
        ….Having known a lot of entrepreneurs, their success came out of repeated failures. At the very least they tell you what not to make or what you shouldn’t attempt to do…and there really is a lot of luck; MBA’s are helpful, but a bit of luck, a smile and a friendly chat with a dissatisfied customer is worth a lot more.

  • asportsfan

    He says we are being beat by many states in test scores. Doesn’t Maine rank 10th overall right now? Doesn’t that mean that Maine is beating 40 other states? Hmmm…
    Does he realize that EVERY single Junior in the state takes the SAT test? In most states, only college bound students take them. Our students scores are averaged with all students in their class- be it an honor student or a special education student who cannot read. The fact that we are still 10th means that we are actually doing quite well. Our scores are not improving a lot because he is comparing the scores to when only college bound kids took them.
    But, why am I bothering? He is going to say whatever he wants and not worry about what the truth is. He has never supported education, so I am sure his statements now don’t surprise anyone.

    • Anonymous

      Just wondering how you take a test when you can’t read. Wish I’d gone to that school, would have been a lot easier. Oh, maybe someone reads the question to you, then reads the answer and all you do is nod your head, “that’s right Miss Jones”

      • asportsfan

        That is exactly what happens. We have students with IQ’s that are below 80 who cannot read or write. They will get social security for life because they are mentally challenged, yet they have to take the SATs AND their scores are counted as a part of the class average.

        • Anonymous

          I was unaware that there was a law requiring everyone to take the SAT regardless of their intentions to attend college. Though a lot of schools do require SAT scores, some don’t. Guess I can’t rear after all.

          • asportsfan

            Currently in Maine every Junior has to take the SAT. It’s usually the first Saturday in May and schools have to have a 95% attendance or they can get in trouble with the state.

  • notateapartier

    According to Forbes, last year, LePage “stretched the truth” when telling Maine citizens why they ranked last. Why would he do any different now?
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2011/12/16/maine-gov-lepage-stretches-truth-on-forbes-ranking/

  • Anonymous

    In a couple of years LePage won’t have to worry about Maine’s business climate any more. He can retire to Florida.

  • Anonymous

    Would like to see the evidence that ratings agencies said they would lower our credit rating based in part on our issuing voter approved bonds. Also i really don’t understand how you build a state up by tearing it down. Let’s work with our strengths, really support Maine small businesses and re-examine the business tax breaks ($380 per capita) to see if we are getting ROI.

  • Lord Whiteman

    Lepage hates my state and my nation so much he should just move back home to New Brunswick. I hear he abandoned a couple of little children back their when he moved to Maine. Maybe he can do the right thing and care for them.

  • Richard Simpson Jr

    Lepage is a tool..all he does is complain about Maine and yet does nothing to make it better…

  • Lord Whiteman

    The owner of Forbes magazine is also the editor in chief.
    Only a complete tool like Paul Lepage would trust anything Forbes says.

  • Anonymous
    • Anonymous

      this comment will probably end up at the bottom of the pile like the last one…

      • Anonymous

        wow, thanks for the link!

      • Anonymous

        I find it all very disturbing (haven’t watched your vid yet) especially in the light of the Bob Carlson child sex abuse case being so quickly closed and hushed up, political connections and all. I find it really disturbing that he was seen down on Valley Ave. I find this link disturbing http://www.cruisinggays.com/bangor/1190/ complete with testimonials like “It is VERY cruisy. Park your car or just drive around till you see someone else hot. I’ve seen guys in teens to old guys drive through and you know what they want.” I’m not anti gay, I’m just saying “get a room” and hoping to heck that non of what Bob Carlson was into is happening to other innocent children. I also find this link very disturbing, especially because this is happening right across from a daycare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2fbJlnnLI It is illegal to be having sex in public. Thanks again for the link.

  • Anonymous

    It seems the Governor is saying things that make a lot of sense. Business instead of welfare? Might just draw more PRODUCTIVE people to the state for a change. Right now, what’s the only incentive to move here? There are no businesses and therefore no jobs, so people moving here from other states are moving here just to take advantage of Maine’s unemployment and welfare benefits – most likely after they’ve finished sponging off the state they’re moving from. Yeah, that makes for a great citizen…

    • Guest

      Again with the myth about welfare. Maine does not have the most generous benefits. Massachusetts has much better.

      • Actually not. TANF and Medicaid (Maine care) are more generous than in Mass. BUT Maine is NOT the most generous State in handing out Welfare benefits. Although (depending on how you count) it may be the most generous in the New England area.

  • Anonymous

    Easy solution Govenor, get rid of the aging population and you’ll solve the problem. Get a clue you are the problem not the solution.

  • trisailer

    A great leader takes what he has and makes it better. Lepage puts up a sign and hides a mural and criticizes everyone without actually doing anything.

    Open any business operations manual and you will see that the criteria for locating a business is based on hard facts; structural assets, quality of labor, and operations costs. Maine has value to some businesses and the governor should be selling that value and supporting the businesses that already operate.

    Whatever disadvantages Maine might have, the governor is adding to them.

  • Anonymous

    He tells it like it is – but liberals have a hard time living in the real world.

    • Anonymous

      True, most Libs are thin skinned and dont like to hear the truth..

      • Anonymous

        Got truth? Or just your opinion.

        • Anonymous

          Truth.

  • Anonymous

    I got curious about Forbes ranking system. There is a negative correlation between the “business costs ranking” and the “quality of life ranking”, -0.46, in fact. That means that the states ranked lower for quality of life also had lower business costs, ranking higher in this category. Does this mean that Governor LePage has replaced “Maine – the Way Life Should Be” with “Maine – Open for Business”?

  • Gail Orndorf Sperry

    Jeez, he doesn’t skip a beat finding a way to knock down the excellent schools in his own state, does he? I can not wait until he’s gone, gone, gone. Maine schools, embarrassing, why thank you Governor, thank you very much, but I happen to know you are wrong. Rest of nation honoring teachers this week, but noooooooo, not you. That’s LePage for you, can’t say three positive words in a row … poor, poor leader.

  • Anthony Parent

    That’s because we have you has Governor. Even the Governor’s Association don’t like you. That’s why you stopped going to the meetings.

  • Conley Raye

    Whatever happen to loyalty to your state and country ? Most folks hold them in the highest esteem, not publicly agree with some detrimental magazine comment. Work to correct our downfalls not broadcast them to the world, it becomes self defeating to try to attract new business to our state. A loose cannon from all aspects who continues to amaze.

    • Anonymous

      if it’s true it’s true, no amount of false pride will change it

  • Anonymous

    Naturally he agrees. It supports what he wanted to do anyway. And he already has his house in Florida.

  • When Malcolm Forbes ran the Forbes empire I had some respect for their opinion. Steve Forbes is a wizened little pis-ant born and raised in the lap of luxury without ever having to work a day in his life.

    There are some truths in here. Every good lie needs a bit of truth to make it fly; Energy costs are to high but. Hawaii (higest energy costs in the USA) Connecticut, Alaska, New York, New Hampshire, Rhode island, Massachusetts, New Jersey and Vermont have higher energy costs and many of those States are doing quite well.

    Maine is not the “most generous welfare State” The way the Governor gets to that conclusion is to include Medicare, Social Security and Veteran’s benefits as “welfare.” A person who works and pays into a system ANY SYSTEM . isn’t getting “welfare.” when they collect from that pot. AND veteran’s benefits are hardly a gift to the shiftless, I think it is abhorrent that Lepage packages them under a “dole” heading. Because our population is older there is a higher percentage of social security medicare recipients and retired veterans. Oh, yeah Paul, those people spend most of that money right here.

    Wyoming and Utah (according to Forbes) the best places in the country for business are fly-over States with cheap land, and long established competing transportation methods. Wyoming has a thriving rail network, Large empty highways (no one lives there) and an byzantinemethod of funding their airports so the taxpayers pick up the tab for airport expenses leaving business a subsidized method of travel and transport.

    Our unemployment rate is better than half the States, and better than Rhode Island and Connecticut which have a New England winter season (just like us high energy costs, but a younger population.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re a business owner looking to move to Maine, would the Governor publicly agreeing that our state is worst for business make you WANT to relocate here??

    We should have a Governor who goes to bat for our state, not one who complains to the nation how terrible we are.

  • Anonymous

    Wonder if the 1%er Maine senate leader will be vilified the same way Mr Lepage is.The hipocracy from the progressives amazes me.They attack a CEO yet they elect a 1%er for a leader.

    • Anonymous

      Why did LePage put a sign up at the state border, “Open for Business” if he’s going to make public statements discouraging business?

      • The sign was produced in Louisiana… That tell you anything?

      • Anonymous

        He tries, but the Dems dont want anything new…..LNG in Wash Cty etc…..

        • Anonymous

          By warning businesses that Maine isn’t a good state for them, he seems to be trying to keep business away from Maine now.

  • Anonymous

    GOVERNOR LEPAGE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BAD BUSINESS CLIMATE.
    Others before him are responsible

    Here is a recent example:
    5 Maine legislators including SNOWE AND COLLINS ,and 3 Democrats “publicly” and “suggestively” told a national business chain starting to expand in Maine .they should use Maine potatoes.

    If you were a business owner looking to open in Maine, what would you think of Maine’s business climate when Maine Legislators may give you NEGATIVE PUBLICITY before you even opened your business’s front doors?

    • Anonymous

      You are so correct, Mr lePage is doing some house cleaning …People really made some bad choices before him..

  • Briney

    Le Page’s angry conjecture about millions moving to Maine to take advantage of our free handouts, is wrong, according to your editorial.

    Le Page’s prickly assertion that we are top heavy with school administrators, was proven wrong by a Maine school administrator, in today’s newspaper.

    Le Page’s delirious and zealous delight in revealing yet another misguided Forbes put down of the state, is also wrong, as commentators and even Forbes editors will tell you.

    Three strikes and you’re still in – at least, for two more boring years.

    Meanwhile, keep praising your Canadian friends advantages over ours, whilst pushing for gutting the state with a Canadian Interstate, solely to serve Canadian needs between Quebec and New Brunswick. Also, ignore the availability of Maine natural gas, while you ballyhoo and push for more Canadian pipelines.

    You’re all for Canada, Le Page. Must have been the ties you made when you worked a New Brunswick lumberyard during the Vietnam War.

    Le Page has ignored efforts to harness the second highest tides in the world in the Quoddy Basin. Scientific inventiveness that has drawn attention world wide. Small businesses springing up, are of no interest to this “Open For Business” man. Significant expansion of boat building businesses are avoided by Le Page. Creation of a new food product by two young men, didn’t even draw his usual blank stare.

    Le Page would like to confine Maine people behind benches in airless, windowless stores and factories, for twelve or more hours a day, working for below minimum wages. We already have bountiful resources here in Maine. But he wouldn’t be able to see them, even if he a used binoculars, a telescope, and a magnifying glass.

    After two years of put down and embarrassing national ridicule, does he have the nerve to issue a Christmas and Holiday greeting, before scooting off to Florida or Jamaica? If so, what would it be?

    Elliot Cutler where are you? Now is the time for you, or, someone else endowed with superior governor qualities, to step up to the plate and take a swing at this man who is dragging us down with his belittling outbursts.

  • Anonymous

    I so glad Mr. LePage is trying to make Me a business friendly State, keep up the great work!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Wait just one cotton-picking minute! Do you mean to tell me that the sign in Kittery that says “Open for Business” has done NO good whatsoever? Inconceivable!

  • Thron

    Maine’s economic failure is the consequence of a state population guided by a politically correct catechism that embraces an entitlement culture. The fact that Mainers supported the re-election of the Protected Liar, whose lies have been protected from birth to Benghazi by his adoring press, one can only conclude that Maine’s future will be worse than its past until the entitlement disciples exit faster than Maine’s workers and youth.

    • Anonymous

      One can only conclude that our Governor has no interest in drawing business to our state, when he publicly warns businesses not to come here.

      • Thron

        Businesses know WITHOUT help from any governor which states to avoid based on the criteria Governor LePage is trying to inform Mainers makes Maine unattractive. Business knows Maine needs to get its energy cost down and its quality of K-12 education up, decrease its Welfare rolls and increase the qualitiy of its roads and decrease windmills and increase liquid gas ports. In other words, Maine needs to become a destination state for a AAA job that generates taxes and not AAA entitlements that consumes the fruits of Maine workers!

    • FrankC

      ” Protected Liar, whose lies have been protected from birth to Benghazi by his adoring press”

      Well stated – and the coming inflation (that’s been here for a while) is going to crush the poor and middle class much more than the rich !

  • Anonymous

    GOVERNOR LEPAGE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BAD BUSINESS STATE
    he is trying to reverse 70 plus years of Maine being a bad place for business

    Maine has been the worst or close to being the worst State for business for over 70 YEARS Read these news headlines from Maine ,

    2007,BAD for business
    2002 BAD for business
    1993 BAD for business
    1991 BAD
    1982 BAD
    1979 BAD
    1941 BAD

    2007
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xtk8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=XS4MAAAAIBAJ&pg=5284,2488092&dq=maine+rated+worst+for+business&hl=en

    2002
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=O6VJAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dQ0NAAAAIBAJ&pg=4120,3938818&dq=maine+worst+for+business&hl=en

    1993
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=HIogAAAAIBAJ&sjid=GmYFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5526,3019795&dq=maine+rated+worst+for+business&hl=en

    1991
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=maine%20rated%20bad%20for%20business&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fid%3DX6JJAAAAIBAJ%26sjid%3DVA0NAAAAIBAJ%26pg%3D5838%2C180166%26dq%3Dmaine%2Brated%2Bbad%2Bfor%2Bbusiness%26hl%3Den&ei=NyXSUNapMrK30gGazIDIBg&usg=AFQjCNEpVsMLQh2NiAlUSo6cGRZeRbcB5g

    1982
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EgYgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hmQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1419,1172027&dq=maine+worst+for+business&hl=en

    1979
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=8W0-AAAAIBAJ&sjid=T1oMAAAAIBAJ&pg=4133,3077437&dq=maine+worst+for
    +business&hl=en

    1941
    http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/csmonitor_historic/access/265667882.html?dids=265667882:265667882&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&date=Jan+27%2C+1941&author=&pub=Christian+Science+Monitor&desc=Maine+Rivalries+Bad+for+Business&pqatl=google

  • Anonymous

    LePage is not a builder, he’s a destroyer. It’s in his blood and he can’t control it.

  • Anonymous

    LePages seconds Forbes ? I figured Forbes would be quoting directly from LePage on how much this state stanks.

  • Anonymous

    Why does LePage hate the State of Maine and his fellow citizens so much?

  • Patrick Dunham

    Good to see that the dear ole’ fool feels so strongly about the GREAT STATE OF MAINE!!! Screw him.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you hate us so much, Governor LePage???

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