Comments for: Repeal 2nd Amendment

Posted Dec. 19, 2012, at 2:43 p.m.

Not long ago, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the so-called “right to bear arms” amendment to the Constitution is in fact a guarantee of the individual’s right to arm himself. My first reaction to this ruling was that the justices shared a common malady: the inability to read and …

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  • Anonymous

    stay on campus “professor” the real world does not need you. Maybe if the first amendment were on the table for repeal the media and lefties like you would find a new found love for the constitution.

    • The problem is this loon has access to children and is teaching this un-American liberal philosophy to them…the brainwashing continues!

      • Cecil Gray

        You want indoctrination watch today’s video games. The professor is point on and a bright light amidst the bunker mentalists.

        • The professor is an extremist, just like the bunker mentalists.

      • pbmann

        The problem is that children are being influenced by gun enthusiasts… wait I mean gun nuts.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, totally. The problem with mass shootings is a professor advocating we get rid of guns.

        Use your brain, what you said doesn’t make even a bit of sense.

    • Anonymous

      He forgets its guns that gave him his 1st Amendment right in the 1st place.

      • pbmann

        I guess you think the founding fathers thought gun rights were more important than free speech that is why their first amendment was gun rights…. oh wait, it wasn’t.

      • Anonymous

        But they’re not what are keeping his 1st amendment rights.

  • Anonymous

    Technology has made the amendment obsolete, at least in the very broad terms that we have come to interpret it. The average citizen has no business maintaining the kind of combat weapons that are available today. Of course there are screams that these weapons protect us from a tyrannical government, but to overthrow our government would require competing with a heavily militarized government. Anyone who thinks they could protect themselves from the government using guns, even combat weapons, has to have some severe mental deficiencies and shouldn’t have a gun in the first place.

    I see no issue with simple hunting weapons or handguns used for home protection, but you’re not going to convince me that somehow with moments notice you’re going to safely whip out a military grade firearm from under your bed and stop a home invasion.

    • Anonymous

      Are you kidding? Have you not been watching anything that has been going on in the Middle East? Yes Mr. Fndeer governments can and have been over thrown by citizen militias that started with no more than rifles. Libya, Egypt, and Syria in the works. If you think for one minute that Americans will stand by and allow a leader like Hassad, Kadafi, or Hussien to rule this land with impunity you have another thing coming, you will see an armed militia like the world has never seen. I would dare say the military would probably chose the side of liberty over tyranny and join the cause as well.

      • Anonymous

        I didn’t say any old government can’t be overthrown, I said ours couldn’t be overthrown.

        • Cecil Gray

          The plutocrats and corporatists have already over thrown it without firing a shot. They stole the treasury instead.

        • 3rd rail

          Yeah, who would ever be able to do it. Let’s project something here. What if John McCain would have been elected in 2008, would you have felt comfortable with him ?

          That is if you really knew his background, would you have felt so comfortable with someone who’s nature could have very easily mistaken that ‘red button’ for maid service ?

        • Anonymous

          I bet it could be. The first thing you do is chop of the head. You don’t need an F-16 or a cruise missile to do that.

      • Anonymous

        I doubt our own government could be overthrown easily. What I fear is not the government itself, but a bunch of gun totin’ folks whipped into a frenzy by hate groups that spew nonsense about the President being a Socialist or Communist or Fascist or Muslim (or all 4 at once) and planning all sorts of “tyrannies” that are simply fiction.

        Some of these armed-to-the-teeth paranoids sound like they’re planning a pre-emptive strike, in the name of life, liberty, and lunacy.

        That is NOT what the authors of the Constitution or its amendments where trying to facilitate.

        • 3rd rail

          Absolutely, and that’s the idea. How do you think other country’s with brutal dictators survive so long, until good ‘ole Uncle Sam comes along and arms the rebels.

          Your worry about paranoid freaks, so are most of us, only the ones who own the tanks and artillery.

          • Anonymous

            I suspect that the “most of us” you refer to are consuming a lot of anti-government hate group propaganda.

          • 3rd rail

            Not exactly, the most, are the older ones with ‘common sense’, which has been in short supply for many years.

            Those others you mention are no different then the phony’s who camp out in parks with Apple computers crying about greedy corporations, when their real rant is a school debt.

          • Anonymous

            They are people living “off the grid” because they can’t get along IN or cope with main stream society. Then they were encouraged to try to main stream their paranoia and dysfunction BY “entertainers” that appeal to their dysfunction because they NEEDED a new voting “block” — everyone else having abandoned them!!.

          • Anonymous

            So that explains why 105 million of eligible voters out 224 mil didnt vote in the last election, really?

          • Anonymous

            Sounds like you’re the one whining though.

          • 3rd rail

            Yeah I know, but the difference is your still wet behind ears as oppose to my 6 + decades on this earth. One thing is for certain having read you over the last few days, I never lacked critical thinking skills at your age.

          • Anonymous

            Don’t be talking down to anyone when you don’t know the difference between your and you’re.

          • 3rd rail

            Have a good day kid..

          • Anonymous

            Reality check— we don’t have a dictator….

          • Anonymous

            We are still armed, why would there be?

        • Anonymous

          I feel the same way. It is those lunatics and mentally unstable individuals such as Adam Lanza that concern me as far as safety is concerned . Individuals such as the monster Adam Lanza with a mentally unstable mother who was a survivalist , with all her guns and talking of the end of the world. All those guns she owned for “protection” did her a whole lot of good, didn’t they!
          I don’t worry about the government and wonder at those with such paranoia about it. They might be more concerned about the Adam Lanzas of the world.

          • Anonymous

            maybe Lanza was OFF by a week or read the calender wrong and thought the world was supposed to end LAST Friday!!

        • Lazerus Phoenix

          Enlighten us, Liz. What were they trying to facilitate?

        • Tom Brown III

          never heard obama called a fascist, heard it plenty about bush but not this guy.

        • Anonymous

          Because back then both sides only had muskets, that has changed, Japan did not attack America on the ground because of our 2nd Amendment.

          • Anonymous

            LOL. Or, just possibly, because someone might have noticed Japanese troop ships crossing the Pacific and landing tens of thousands of soldiers on North American soil. Or the Japanese Air Force landing troop-packed planes at North American airfields.

      • Anonymous

        Seen any sort of the “leaders” in the US? I know you think you have but you need help.

    • Anonymous

      A bunch of untrained Afghan freedom fighters seem to be doing a pretty good job against the best that the US military can throw at them.

      • Anonymous

        If your devout hope is that you and your buddies can stockpile weapons and turn the US into Afghanistan–you will discover that no sensible people will thank you.

        • Anonymous

          A failing economy could do that. You sound as if the United States will forever be United. There are demographic and economic things happening that could indeed split our country. The Soviet Union and its Empire fell apart in a matter of weeks, With many small internecine wars that followed. What makes us exempt?

    • Anonymous

      Really? That would be news to the Vietnamese or Afghans.

      • Anonymous

        You have to read the comment closely before replying. “…but to overthrow our government…” I said OUR government.

    • Anonymous

      IF the second amendment is about keeping the government in check or overthrowing it then I am severely underarmed. If the military goes back to using muskets I will gladly destroy my current firearms and buy a musket. Until then I should be able to possess any type of weapon that the military has.

      • Anonymous

        They have jets, rockets, missels, nuclear weapons, etc. — you want all those things?

        • Lazerus Phoenix

          WE already have them! It’s called ‘The Military’. The last time I checked, the military was under the control of a civilian, not a General!

          Granted, the civilian in charge now is pretty pathetic. but he’s still a civilian!

          • Barry Hirsh

            It is the “civilians” in the federal government that have and use the power to crush your liberty. Presently, they use police forces to do it. In an all-out crackdown, it will be the military.

    • Anonymous

      you would be very surprised if you invaded my home in the middle of the night. Especially if you made it as far as my bedroom door. Because i will “whip out” my military STYLE firearm from under the bed.

      Very few have military GRADE firearms. Special license, etc.

      • Anonymous

        You need that military style weapon because why? Because let’s just say a handgun is absolutely ineffective?

        • Anonymous

          Handguns with decent stopping power tend to kick harder and are more difficult to control for the second and subsequent shots. That isn’t a problem for me but my wife isn’t as big or strong. Same for many smaller individuals. The long rifle wouldn’t be as good in close quarters but if you let a perp get that close before shooting them you have already made a bad mistake.

          Many people get a 9mm for self defense because it is easier to handle and less kick. Stories abound about people jacked up on drugs or just adrenalin who keep on coming having been shot several times with 9mm.

          Also, a decent rifle or shotgun is actually less expensive than a decent handgun. Even the poor should be able to defend themselves.

          • Anonymous

            Okay, you cite difficulties with some of the weapons. These military style weapons, in the military require hours of training (for example, the military counterpart of what Lanza used requires 103 hours of training) and yet for the average Joe, you can legal buy it and take it home with no safety training whatsoever. I don’t deny that people should be able to defend themselves, but I see something wrong with the picture.

          • Anonymous

            Military training includes many things not necessary for an individual. That includes use of the weapon in all three modes, semi-auto, 3 round burst, and full auto. And when each of those modes is warranted. Disassembly, reassembly, and cleaning of the weapon in the field under extreme conditions, etc.

            The training needs of military in the use of a weapon cannot be compared to a civilian. Also, I know many individuals who practice and fire their weapon often. Many have fired thousands of rounds, something that few in the military have actually done. I would rate their proficiency very high. Higher than many regular infantry. Not as high by any means with special forces, etc.

          • Anonymous

            I agree, many things not necessary for an individual, but not ALL things.

          • Anonymous

            You can not legally buy the military version of the weapon Lanza had.

          • Anonymous

            I said counterpart and I meant the gun that is very similar to take home. I was clear when I said “these military style weapons…”. A parenthetical doesn’t change the subject of a sentence.

    • Tom Brown III

      what about the afgans and iraqis that have held our military at bay for a decade?

      or the VC in vietnam?

      an entrenched determined citizenry will always fight fiercely against oppressors, conquerors, invaders, and foreign occupation.

      • Anonymous

        A war isn’t the same as a revolution to overthrow the government.

    • Anonymous

      Bet you are glad your not in Syria right now, who are you going to run too if and when it happens here someone with a gun. I would rather go down fighting then a sitting duck any day of the week, and I do not own an AR-15, and that is my choice not yours to take. Again how many murdered in Syria and over the years by out of control leaders by defenseless civilians over the years it is in the millions, who protected them., planes as bombs has happened so anything can happen in time.

      • Anonymous

        Not really, having dangerous weapons available to and in public is my interest. I’m free to lobby the government on the issue of firearms actually.

        And please, read comments closely before spouting your paranoid rants. I didn’t say any old government, I said OUR government. You could never compete with our government by using firearms, no matter how powerful. We could not ever overthrown our own government in that way as our government is so heavily militarized and so technologically advanced.

        • Anonymous

          “You could never compete with our government by using firearms, no matter how powerful.”
          As we are finding in the war on terror (a term I find foolish), an army that has no battleships, no planes, and no forts is far more difficult to fight than one that can be easily identified by such luxuries.
          We had superior firepower in Vietnam, but guerilla warfare against our forces was our downfall.

          • Anonymous

            A war is different than a revolution. We’re not using all our power in your examples.

    • Barry Hirsh

      Tools become obsolete. Principles don’t.

  • This is simply an article to garner responses — a fallacy riddled distortion bent solely on collecting page views and fiery retorts. Don’t do it. Ignore this person.

    • Anonymous

      I have other candidates for ignoring, if I dare.

  • Anonymous

    “Why be coy? The Second Amendment should be repealed. Once it is gone, meaningful firearms legislation will finally be possible.”

    I am guessing this is meant to start a conversation, so allow me, as Samuel L. Jackson said, to retort: repeal Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, and then meaningful immigration legislation will finally be possible.

  • First of all, the first ten amendments are for the securities for the citizens from their government, and if you repeal one -especially the 2nd- how is the citizens going to protect the other 9. Secondly, the answer behind all these mass shootings is not having gun control where the average, sane, upstanding citizens can’t protect themselves from these mass shooters. I would rather send my child into a classroom where a responsible, trained teacher that has conceal permit can protect him, aside from that the reason why they have mass shootings at schools is because the mass shooters know everyone is unarmed, “easy target” if you will. If one of the people at Sandyhook Elementary had had a firearm that could of protected those children, I am convinced that there wouldn’t have been even half of the casualties.

    • Anonymous

      You think people having guns are what keeps the bill of rights from being trampled on? Honestly?

      Also, the mother of the shooter had additional guns. So, your claim “if one of the people…” is wrong.

    • Anonymous

      A police department in Pennsylvania proves you wrong in the video “If I Only Had a Gun.”

      Fact is, even people with many hours of weapons training will freeze or fire wildly or not have a chance of shooting before they’re sprayed with bullets. You might know how to hit a target, but unless you’re a soldier on active duty in a war zone or in a busy SWAT team, you won’t have a chance. Farewell to all those fantasies of saving the day.

      http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/defend-gun-7312540

      • Anonymous

        It is astounding that , even after what has happened in Newtown, CT some individuals are advocating more guns as the answer. Astounding….

        • 3rd rail

          Ever wonder why we have to get so involved all over the world in other peoples affairs and mess’s ? Who will ever come to our rescue..

          The Russians ? Maybe our daddy China will.

          (beam me up Scotty)

        • Anonymous

          Well don’t you know if only somebody in Newtown had a gun Adam Lanza would have never been able to kill all those kids. If only his first victim was heavily armed this would have never happened.

        • Anonymous

          December 17, 1991 Shoney’s Family Restaurant, Anniston, AL: 3 gunmen, 20 hostages, one ARMED customer (Thomas Glenn Terry). Police finally arrived to find one dead robber, one wounded robber and the third had fled when the shooting started. NO INJURED INNOCENTS.

          Edinboro, Pennsylvania in 1996, 14-year-old Andrew Wurst shot and killed a teacher at a school dance, and shot and injured several other students. He had just left the dance hall, carrying his gun — possibly to attack more people, though the stories that I’ve seen are unclear — when he was confronted by the dance hall owner James Strand, who lived next door and kept a shotgun at home. It’s not clear whether Wurst was planning to kill others, would have gotten into a gun battle with the police, or would have otherwise killed more people had Strand not stopped him.

          October 1, 1997, Pearl High School: 1 gunman, 2 murdered, 7 injured: Stopped by ARMED vice principal.

          January 16, 2002, Virginia Appalachian School of Law: 1 gunman, 3 murdered, 3 injured. Killer was stopped when confronted by two ARMED students.

          Nov 20, 2005 Tacoma WA, 20 yr old juvenile delinquent shoots 4 (1 non gun shot wounded) then exchanges shots with an armed civilian wounding him, but then takes 4 hostages and holes up before surrendering to police.

          Feb 12, 2007 Trolley Mall Salt Lake Utah 1 gunman, 4 killed, 5 wounded before on scene off duty policeman shot and killed the heavily armed killer. Hundreds of people still in mall when shooting ended before on duty police arrived.

          Dec 9 2007, Colorado Springs, New Life Church, 1 gunman 2 murdered, 3 injured, gunman stopped when armed woman shoots gunman, who then turns gun on self and commits
          suicide, while 100 other church members are in church.

          Winnemucca, Nevada in 2008, Ernesto Villagomez killed two people and wounded two others in a bar filled with three hundred people. He was then shot and killed by a patron
          who was carrying a gun (and had a concealed carry license). It’s not clear whether Villagomez would have killed more people; the killings were apparently the result of a family feud, and I could see no information on whether Villagomez had more names on his list, nor could one tell whether he would have
          killed more people in trying to evade capture.

          May 4th, College Station Georgia 2 gunman, 10 victims, 1 dead gunman, 1 victim wounded. The 2 thugs robbing a party begin discussing if they have enough bullets to do the job. One
          man retrieves his firearm, kills one thug, chases the other off.

          Keep & Bear Arms, oldest dated 11/2/12, all police incident reports, means any claim of bias, village has found their idiot.

          KC3, Armed Citizen, American Rifleman, Guns Save Lives and more 300 police incidents per month.

          How terrible these people protected themselves.

          How terrible self defense works!

          • Charlotte, NC Detective Fires at Home Invader Trying to Break Into His Home (NC)
          • Gunman Attempts to Open Fire at Crowded Movie Theatre, Is Shot by Off Duty Cop, No Deaths (TX)
          • Felony stupid: Angry man picks poorly, now pushing petunias (IL)
          • Pastor pulls gun on unsuspecting burglar (UT)
          • Resident Shoots Burglar Who Tries to Escape From 3rd Story Balcony (MS)
          • 77 Year Old Atlanta Grandmother Opens Fire on Burglar (GA)
          • Kansas Homeowner Forced to Shoot Intruder After Being Attacked (KS)
          • 81 Year Old Detroit Man Fights Off Intruder With Antique .22 Revolver (MI)
          • Texas Store Clerk Shoots Knife Wielding Armed Robber on Crime Spree (TX)
          • Armed Robber in OH is Shot and Killed by Two Clerks (OH)
          • Homeowner in CA Opens Fire on Three Burglars (CA)
          • Nail salon customer packs heat, gunman leaves (WY)
          • Homeowner Shoots Daytime Burglar Multiple Times in the Chest (CA)
          • Off-duty officer shot in robbery attempt (IL)
          • Ohio crime victims fire back in 2 shooting incidents (OH)
          • Asian World Market owner recalls scaring off robbery suspect with gun (MO)
          • Texas Burglar Calls 911. And for Good Reason (TX)
          • Concealed carry helps Appleton man during road rage incident (WI)
          • Marijuana mayhem in Pierce County leaves two dead (WA)
          • 79 Year Old Hall of Fame Cowboy Disarms and Beats Armed Intruder in TX (TX)
          • Homeowner Shoots 1 of 2 Burglars Taking Property From His Home (TX)
          • Gas Station Clerk Shoots 1 of 2 Would Be Robbers (IN)
          • Store Clerk Shoots Knife Wielding Armed Robber in the Head (MI)
          • Don’t bring a pellet gun to gunfight (IL)
          • Redford man foils robbery by shooting suspect (MI)
          • Autozone Fires Worker Who Stopped Armed Robbery (VA)
          • 81-year-old Detroit man shoots at intruder, scares him off (MI)
          • Bessemer woman shoots armed intruder after struggle (AL)
          • West Knox homeowner shoots intruder (TN)
          • Dallas Woman Shoots at 2 Intruders; 1 Dead (TX)
          • Burglar arrested after homeowner shoots out getaway car’s tire (OH)
          • Big Lake men subdue serial burglar (AK)
          • Former Nigerian national basketball player killed while burglarizing Plano house (TX)
          • Homeowner Shoots and Captures Knife Wielding Daytime Burglar (TX)
          • Female Store Clerk Gets in Gun Fight With 3 Armed Robbers and Wins (SC)
          • Store Clerk Shoots 1 of 3 Armed Robbers, Ends Their Recent Crime Spree (NJ)
          • Teenager Shoots & Kills Abusive Father as He Choked and Beat Teen’s Mother (FL)
          • Jewelry store owner shoots at robbers in San Jose (CA)
          • Store robbery on North Broadway ends with clerk fatally shooting suspect (KS)
          • Cops: Woman shoots 17-year-old who broke into house, tried to stab her (PA)
          • Man Pulls Gun on Rowdy, Line-Cutting Black Friday Shopper (TX)
          • Attempted Robbery Ends with One Robber Dead, One Wounded and One Hit By Car (TX)
          • Memphis Homeowner Shoots & Kills Teen In Defense During Home Invasion (TN)
          • Retired trooper shoots intruder in Bluffton home, Sheriff’s Office reports (SC)
          • Oklahoma woman fires shot, scares off burglar (OK)
          • Homeowner shoots at would-be robbers (LA)
          • Police Say Homeowner Shot, Killed Intruder (OH)
          • Homeowner shoots intruder on Detroit’s west side (MI)
          • State Police: Would-Be Burglar Shot To Death In Home (KY)
          • Everett man fires shot at burglar (WA)
          • Florida Homeowner Forced to Shoot Attacker After Friend is ‘Shocked’ with Stun Gun, Beaten (FL)
          • Concealed Carrier Walks into Robbery Trap, Shoots His Way Out (OK)
          • Homeowner Shoots Alleged Burglar (WV)
          • Defensive Gun Use of the Day: Knife…Gunfight…You Know the Rest Edition (FL)
          • Police: Armed robber killed in Millcreek shooting threatened store clerk (PA)
          • SC deputies: Sister shot brother in self-defense (SC)
          • Neighbor with Shotgun Defends Couple from Home Intruder (WA)
          • Woman pulls gun on man who exposed himself at lake (WA)
          • Homeowner Shoots Teenage Burglar – Second Time Home Was Broken Into (PA)
          • Concealed Carrying Walmart Customer in OH Draws Gun on Parking Lot Attacker (OH)
          • Store Clerk Shoots 1 of 2 Armed, Masked Robbers (CA)
          • Marine Veteran Defends Home from Intruder (OK)
          • NOLA Cab Driver Shoots Armed Robber in the Face (LA)
          • New Mexico woman shot intruder who followed her home, deputies say (NM)
          • Coney island patron kills would-be robber during a gunfight (MI)
          • Elderly Texas Homeowner Shoots 2 Home Invaders, Kills 1 (TX)
          • 69 Year Old CA Homeowner Shoots Intruder in Buttocks With .38 During Robbery (CA)
          • Store Clerk Shoots 2 Armed Robbers, Kills 1 Who Was Gang Member (NM)
          • Homeowner Shoots 1 of 3 Armed Home Invaders During Gunfight (FL)
          • Defensive Gun Use of the Day: Nine Pellets of OO Justice Edition (OH)
          • Undercover Detective in FL Shoots and Kills Shotgun Wielding Robbery Suspect (FL)
          • Suspect nabbed in Chelmsford, MA housebreak (MA)
          • Apparent self-defense fatal shooting under investigation in Delaware County (OK)
          • Bank President Pulls Gun on Bank Robber (MO)
          • Homeowner Fires at, Scares Off Burglar (MI)

    • Anonymous

      Again, do you want martial law?

  • Dont like the Second amendment? How will you defend the first amendment? How will you defend anything?

    • Anonymous

      Bill, Dont you know that the government always has your best interests at heart?

  • Anonymous

    Wow wonder if the first will be his next target

  • Anonymous

    Employing the same exquisite application of Twenty-first Century usage to Eighteenth Century grammar that Mr. Klose has used, we analyze the US Constitution’s Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5:

    “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President”

    …and discover that the last President to be eligible to hold the office was Martin van Buren, born in 1782. Everyone after him was neither a natural born citizen nor a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted, being born later.

    Just pointing out one of the pitfalls of grammatical parochialism.

  • Colin McKerlie

    The ONLY way to stop the madness is to repeal the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is just insanity in modern society. 

    The last “well regulated militia” seen in the United States was called the Confederate Army. They were treasonous scum and they paid the price – but at great cost to the nation.

    Anyone who now wants the right to take up arms against the government is just a terrorist, plain and simple. And the example those people should remember is Waco, where the whackos got what they were asking for.

    If you really want to do something to make mass murder less likely, sign the petition to repeal the Second Amendment. Go to http://wh.gov/Rord and then tell everyone you know to do the same.

    • Foolish Sheep ….

    • I apologize for my other comment … your in tilted to your opinion, I just strongly disagree . As I have seen first hand what can happen when governments first disarm their citizens

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        You understand history – that’s nothing to apologize for! Colin and his ilk obviously do not, or they are blissfully ignorant of it.

    • Anonymous

      What’s the point in making this argument. A full repeal of the 2nd amendment will never happen. You wont get a majority of the House, let alone 2/3 and at the state level? I suspect 1/5 actually would ratify.

    • Lazerus Phoenix

      Don’t understand much, do you Colin! No problem, our society is set up so those that do understand will carry those of you that don’t!
      Tell you what, after we repeal the 2nd, can we then repeal the First so we don’t have to listen to the garbage you are spewing?

  • Mr. Robert Klose teaches at UMA-Bangor and Symbolizes the New, Low-Information America!

    • Cecil Gray

      Bill it is YOU who exemplifies the stagnant spirit.

    • Anonymous

      Speaking of “low” information (whatever that is) …

    • Anonymous

      I see you listened to Rush yesterday. Rush was still trying to figure out how OBAMA could have won, yet again His conclusion?? Peopel weren’t informed enough and of course only HIS listeners were ‘informed”.

  • Robert James Comingo

    He should buy a one way ticket to China.

    • Anonymous

      After you?

    • Anonymous

      Just because he has an opinion different than yours?!

  • Robert James Comingo

    Those with a guilty conscious will deflect
    blame, instead of internalizing on what they could have done to be
    proactive and not reactive. Laws are always reactive, concealed carry is
    proactive.

  • Robert James Comingo

    The Government disarms the people.
    Unfortunately many fail to understand that it is the duty of the people
    to protect each other, not the government or state. The State is only
    the mediator, and serves to apprehend and detain those who violate the
    law and bring them before the court on behalf of the people. But before
    the mediator/servant arrives it is the duty of the people first to act.
    once the mediator arrives it is at their own discretion in how or when
    they act. By the time all that happens, good chance you’ll be dead, or
    victimized.

    • Anonymous

      Anarchy here we come …

      • 3rd rail

        We can only hope !
        (always be careful what you wish for)

      • Anonymous

        Anarchy is preferable to tyranny.

  • Robert James Comingo

    He’s afraid of tanks and missiles. Clearly he has not seen the lost wars in Iraq and Afghanistan by the US Government against the people running around with lessor fire power. So his argument and or statement is pretty ignorant.

    • Exactly, run around in a state of denial, we would be whooping butt in the middle east if we didn’t have our hands tied behind our backs because of our white glove “Rules of Engagement”

      Don’t fire unless fired upon, yeah right, we didn’t win 2 World Wars following that.

      America is in a state of DENIAL, most don’t believe EVIL exists and it is knocking on our door, Well it came crashing in last week and now comes the knee jerk reaction, blame the tool not the person.

      • Anonymous

        I do worry about the person, especially those paranoid

        • Anonymous

          Same here.

      • Anonymous

        the right really needs to decide what they want — NO foreign intervention OR kicking butt ?

    • Ok. . . read it and weep.

      There have been 8,047 US deaths in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars since 2001.
      Ready. . .?
      There are 8,500 US civilian deaths from gun violence in the US every year. That would be 102,000 since 2001.

  • Melissa

    The right of individuals to bear arms should never have been. Everyday people are gunned down. It’s not just about those children in CT. It’s about the astronomical number of gun deaths before them that also matters. When a fifteen year old boy walking down the street I grew up on gets gunned down, it matters. When a young woman gets gunned down for telling someone to get a job, it matters. IT MATTERS! I don’t believe in guns, never did, and am proud of that. Shame to those whose archaic beliefs contribute to the problem. Why don’t you go look up the percentage of gun deaths in the world that Americans are responsible for. I did and it sickened me.

    • The right to bear arms gave you the right to speak. You don’t like guns, but you use the fruits of its power? You don’t like guns, but you drive, how do you think we afford that oil from Iraq and the middle East? No one likes a blood diamonds, but I see a ring on her finger. Too many people today want their entitlements without understanding the sacrifices others give to have them.

      • honey777

        No one is saying the military shouldn’t have weapons. But tell me how Bubba Redneck, who is stocking up on Bushmasters, is keeping me safe or protecting any of my freedoms? If anything, he is a bigger threat if something should go wrong in his life and he starts blasting away.
        Robert Klose is right: repeal the second amendment.

        • Anonymous

          I think you would be singing a different tune if, God forbid, the government turned on us. Then you would be thanking Bubba for giving you a gun.

    • Melissa

      People like you make me sick. You speak without saying anything meaningful. Guns didn’t give me the right to speak. What a moronic statement. There’s no diamond, and I don’t drive because of careless, foolish people who dare to jeopardize the safety of others by talking on a cell phone while they should be paying attention to the road in front of them. If guns are so important to you, why not hold a rally in front of a school and speak about why it’s so necessary for people to own guns?

      • Lazerus Phoenix

        You must be sick a lot, since there are more of us than you! With all your paranoia, how do you venture out your front door?

        • Melissa

          I am quite healthy and never sick. I just wake up eveyday and say, “I am so glad I’m not like them.” I enjoy being a leader and not a follower. I pride myself on not being like everyone else. People follow are cookie cutters.

    • I don’t believe in ghosts …but I don’t try to shove my opinion down your throat…!! I do believe in car’s, planes, and gun’s as they do exist …. just because you choose to disbelieve in reality… gives you no right to leave me or my family less safe .!! Wake up …. this genie is out of the bottle … lets focus on the real problems of this country …… it’s morally and virtually bankrupt ..!! Let focus on raising our children to respect human life

      • 3rd rail

        Well said..

        Very few want to look at how these kids where raised,
        who all come from good backgrounds with educated parents who where enablers. Every mass murder from Columbine to this latest fits a distinct profile.

        They want to neatly tuck it away under another ‘mental health’ issue. Never bothering to even delve into how these children where raised.

        Endless hours in front of violent video games, getting stone, and controlling their parents in most cases. They set themselves up for psychosis and then we all act surprised.

        Those in and from the University mind set i.e. the professionals out there are confused by it all, and some really know and don’t want to admit to another failed social experiment.

        They no longer have the cliques to fall back on of poverty, ghetto life and single parent homes.

        So now they go to plan B, label them all as nut-jobs. And the ‘pimps’ to the agenda of gun control will try to ride inside that Trojan horse.

        • Anonymous

          weird just weird. It appears to me it is the right who is promoting the “isolated nutcase” theory and hoping and praying another “connection ” ISN’T found. Maybe that is why the NRA has been silent for so long ?

      • Tom Brown III

        not to mention its coffers are bankrupt too.

    • Lazerus Phoenix

      Thank you for illustrating just WHY we have the Second Amendment – to protect ourselves from people just like YOU!

      Well done! We could have used you as an example, but it’s much more persuasive that you did it yourself!

  • I’m no professor, but the Militia’s in the American Revolution were civilians who bought their own arms and kept them at home, until they were called upon to protect our freedoms and then they fought along side the “regulars” of Washington’s army. Also, the Supreme Court has already decided that the National Guard is not the militia. Anyway, why would we need an Amendment allowing our Army to have weapons?

    • Anonymous

      court decisions are subject to change .

      • Anonymous

        Funny, if one actually read the antire Heller summary, one would see that the 5-4 decision was on the Washington gun ban, and that all 9 justices actually agreed that the right was and always has been separate from militia service by agreeing with the lower court ruling on that issue.

        But hey, your smarter than the 9 US Supremes and believe changing two supremes would change a 9-0 opine, LOL, uh yeah right!

    • pbmann

      Actually Massachusetts had the power to confiscate a civilian’s rifle and give it to a better able person to use in a time of emergency.

    • Nat

      See the last two comments, one of which I had put in hours ago, to understand why and what the 2nd Amendment means. Several solutions are available and one of my articles explains why the 2nd Amendment is interpreted as it is.Besides Obama wants to use the NDAA to seize guns illegally. Why has the USA withstood the attacks in our homes,on the streets, and for the protection of all in the USA-2nd Amendment.

    • Nat
  • Anonymous

    Mr. Klose should take the “Miranda Ruling” to heart, he has the right to remain silent.

    • Anonymous

      As does present company.

    • 3rd rail

      Let’s repeal you and the blind minions of like nature who cannot grasp what is happening. Wasn’t the Patriot Act a wake up call !?
      How about Corporations as citizens ?

  • Anonymous

    This is a pointless article. There is no way a repeal would pass: 2/3 votes in BOTH houses of Congress and ratified by 3/5 of the states. Simply out of the question, so why waste time making the argument?

    • Here here !!

    • Anonymous

      People’s rerferenda?? Found else where in the constitution ” the right of the people to petition their government shall not be infringed “.

      • Anonymous

        People can petition all they want, but any law passed by the people or congress (or states) must be Constitutional, and the only way to change the Constitution is through Amendment. 2/3 of both houses and 3/5 of the states. No way it will EVER happen.

        • Anonymous

          Another person who thinks she lives in a Democracy where all laws are made by popular vote. Another name for that is anarchy.

  • There are about 300 major state gun control laws and an unknown number of local laws on thee books today, rather than base our arguments on more or fewer laws we should enforce those and study the impact of these laws we do have .

    • Anonymous

      Some are placated by the knee-jerk creation of more regulation…which won’t be enforced either.

  • 3rd rail

    Bob,

    Here’s one of the problems with your hypothesis. The National Guard doesn’t work for the ‘People’, note that word ‘the people’. They are in fact the governments militia to quell unease on a State level.

    As someone made comment the other day on another thread, the police forces around 1971 started referring to ‘we the people’ as ‘civilians’.
    And dressing quite similar to our national army’s.

    They in effect removed the police from among the public.
    (and there are reasons for that)

    • Anonymous

      not the clause say ” necessary to a free STATE ” .The guard is STATE “s “militia “.

  • Anonymous

    The economy will collapse soon and all of this is not going to matter. Martial law is coming and food stamp mobs will be in your neighborhood. Oh, cold dead hands.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently Mr. Klose has never actually read the Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia v. Heller. In the decision, the court gave a brief background on the intent of the Second Amendment:

    “The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation of the operative clause. The ‘militia’ comprised all males physicallycapable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and beararms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved.”
    Mr. Klose also seems to have ignored why the founding fathers wanted the Second Amendment. All you have to do is look at why and how we became independent from Britain.
    It is extremely naive to think that our state or federal governments would never turn on its people.

    • Anonymous

      Everybody ignores what the founding fathers wanted (including Scalia). The founding fathers wanted everyone to have access to the same types of weapons as the government. At the time that included muskets and cannons. Now it includes fighter jets and nuclear warheads. Until we start advocating for private citizens owning nuclear ICBM’s then nobody is defending the second amendment. Now, if we all agree that their should be some limits on what types of arms private citizens should own, then it is up to us to scrap the second and have a reasoned discussion about what those limits should be.

      – A gun Owner, but not a nutjob.

      • Anonymous

        NO it was in response to the brits breaking into peoples homes and taking them over as their own…

        • Anonymous

          we were British at the time and the British government did as it wanted. so when we became american, it was enshrined that no government could do that, foreign or domestic. see how that works, we were british and our government abused us, so we became american, and put this into law, so our government(now american) could never do that to us. our founders truly believed that every government becomes corrupt at some point, and as a balance the people would always have the right to protect themselves. read the federalist papers

      • Anonymous

        Exactly, technology has made the amendment obsolete (at least in the very broad terms we have interpreted it today).

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Klose- Please aim your jerking knee in a different direction. I have no interest in being kicked by it. Timothy McVeigh killed 18 kids and many adults in Oklahoma City and never fired a shot. He used fertilizer and diesel fuel. Were you by any chance one of those dim wits that called for the all out ban on the sale of fertilizer immediately following that tragedy? Or were you outraged by the continued sale of diesel fuel?

    • Anonymous

      A shoe bomber killed exactly no one and yet we take off our shoes at the airport now….

      • Anonymous

        Its why I eat beans & brocoli before flying!

        • Anonymous

          Please let us know your flight schedule.

          • Anonymous

            TSA reaaallly dont like me as I profusely apologize about people touching me making me nervous as they get close to my junk, just got to let one fly! What they going to do, detain me in a room with their people, LOL! Really glad they are no smoking nowdays!

      • Tom Brown III

        we are subjected to all sorts of invasions of our privacy and person by the TSA, doesn’t make it right.

        though I will say private airlines operated by private companies have a right to regulate who and what rides on their planes. I don’t agree the government should be footing the bill with TSA.

      • Anonymous

        Only because he was inept.

    • pbmann

      McVeigh also planned on surviving the attack in order to do more harm.

      This year will be the first time that death by guns will outnumber deaths by motor vehicle.

      Way to go NRA

      • Anonymous

        Wow, better start jailing all them guns for those murders. Do you have a special lockup for them as I can provide bail and promise they are set on the straight an narrow path never committing another crime again. See I am the gun whisperer, able to use my esp to force the guns not to be evil!

        Oh you mean that projection to occur in 2015, oh hasnt happened yet, then again with Obama, the economy will be strong, uh not really, and oh this rather annoying problem for that data is that since 1997, our muder rate has fallen 31%, that pretty much include murders by illegal ise of a firearm and geez, that trend hasnt changed, well unless you live in Chicago, or Washington D.C., Heck the UK had a 35% increase in 2011.

        Then of course what you arent pointing out is that increase is due to suicides, mostly from returning servicemen, bad gun control, your supposed to reduce violence and murders, why dont you ever do so, bad gun control, how can you have any pudding if ya dont eat your meat!

        But hey as mentioned above Here is a HARVARD study, from a somewhat anti gun university helping prove that suicides are not such an IMPULSIVE thing.

        Four out of five people who commit suicide have attempted to kill themselves at least once previously. Joiner, Thomas. 2005. Why People Die by Suicide. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press.

        http://lostallhope.com/suicide-statistics/us-methods-suicide

        One of the dirty little secrets anti gun extremists don’t want to publicly discuss is that suicide by a firearm is 90% to 95% efficient, or
        that suicide by other means is much less efficient, resulting in an
        exponentially higher number of damaged survivors as most of the other suicide methods are from oxygen deprivation causing brain damage as a rule, or a fall from high places which is messy and not guaranteed to finish the job, overdoses scrambling the noggin pretty good, should we go describing the anti gun extremists preferences for ensuring more people survive their suicides by less effective means? Sad that increase in damaged survivors all resulting in states of
        physicality ranging from several months recovery to life time medical care required by their families and the state.

        Would you choose to be reminded daily how you failed your family member and now they are vegetables, rather than mourning their loss and then getting on with your life?

        Suicides are also a significant portion of elderly, illness, dementia, loss of a wife or husband of 60 years, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc…

        So many are due to “THE OTHER VARIABLES” not because the tool
        existed.

        “In a study of 146 adolescent
        friends of 26 adolescent suicide victims, teens living in single-parent
        families are not only more likely to commit suicide but also more likely to suffer from psychological disorders, when compared to teens living in intact families.”

        Source: David A. Brent, (et. al.) “Post-traumatic Stress Disorders in Peers of Adolescent Suicide Victims: Predisposing Factors and Phenomenology.” Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 34 (1995): 209-215.

        “Fatherless children are at dramatically greater risk of suicide.”

        Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, National Center for Health Statistics, Survey on Child Health, Washington,
        D.C., 1993.

        “Three out of four teenage suicides occur in households where a parent has been absent.”

        Source: Jean Beth Eshtain, “Family Matters: The Plight of America’s Children.” The Christian Century (July 1993): 14-21.

        “A family structure index – a composite index based on the annual rate of children involved in divorce and the percentage of families with children present that are female-headed – is a strong predictor of suicide among young adult and adolescent white males.”

        Source: Patricia L. McCall and Kenneth C. Land, “Trends in White Male Adolescent, Young-Adult, and Elderly Suicide: Are There Common Underlying Structural Factors?” Social Science Research
        23 (1994): 57-81

    • Anonymous

      It’s been known for a century that ammonium nitrate is potentially explosive. It’s also a darned good fertilzer. A lot of research has gone into “tagging’ the chemical and large unwarranted large purchases are monitored.

  • Anonymous

    this actiivist court needs to be replaced…. They don’t seem to be able to read OR intepret But then again when your wife is involved with some of these organizations you are benefiting well… can one say conflict of interest?? THESE justices have become so embolden by their POWER they don’t even TRY to HIDE their political and personal bias. THIS is the type of abuse of power that worried our forefathers And yet not a word of complaint from a constitution loving tea or libertarians??

    • Anonymous

      An activist court is defined as one that believes the Constitution is a live document. It isn’t. There are mechanism for changing it… not so much for reinterpreting it which is what “activist” liberal type judges have done.

  • Lazerus Phoenix

    Yes, please repeal the Second Amendment so we can move on to repealing all the other Amendments! Then we can just throw the entire Constitution in the trash and get on with this utopian Socialist State that Klose and his fellow Progressives dream of!
    then people like Melissa and the other usual suspects here can sleep well at night knowing that boogie men only exist in children’s fantasies!

    Oh, just think how wonderful everything will be! No more crime, no more hunger, no more unemployment, no more problems – just like Russia!

    • Anonymous

      More like Cambodia.

  • Anonymous

    The entire Bill of Rights is all about “individual” rights, including the”right to free speech” and so on. Your argument, about “militias” was debated, and debunked, by the Supreme Court, just a few years back! The 2nd amendment is no different. If we are going to “throw out” amendment 2, because you don’t like guns, perhaps we ought to throw out “amendment 1” because I disagree with your liberal ideas!

    How many guns I might choose to own, if any, is none of your business, or anyone else’s business, as long as I “do no harm” to anyone. Likewise, what you choose to say, or think, is not any of my business. In order for you to enjoy the constitutional rights that you like, you have to allow me the same liberty. But you believe, simply because of your educational position, that you “know more” than I do, thus we should listen to you……and ignore a hick like me, as you say.

    I don’t know if a University of Maine professor would know this or not. but there is a particular process to follow, in order to “amend” the Constitution. Neither Congress, nor a national referendum “vote” can change it by themselves.

    Frankly I would rather have my “liberty” than a filthy bowl of oatmeal and “promise of security from liars”.

    If you wish to throw YOUR liberty away, fine. But you have no right to throw mine away at the same time!.

    I am a University of Maine grad, but have come to be ashamed of the blatant “liberalism” such as this diatribe, that has infested my old school, and the “promoters of this idea, that taxpayers are forced to pay for.

    • Anonymous

      Bravo…Well stated.

    • Mary Stubbs

      Trust me, he thinks he is better than everyone else.

      • Anonymous

        And his critics? Their opinions of themselves?

      • Barry Hirsh

        When compared to you guys, he IS.

    • Anonymous

      A proposal for discussion. You must have been a joy to be in class with.

      If I were a UMaine grad, I’d be more ashamed of your diatrabe.

  • Lazerus Phoenix

    You have to ask yourself: Why are all the Leftist, Liberal, Democrat Progressives here on this forum and in Washington so adamant to repeal the Second Amendment???

    Why??? What is there REAL agenda??? Everyone has an agenda, what is theirs???

    We already know they love it when shootings occur. We see how they jump for joy at the chance to advance their agenda. But why? What is their REAL goal?

    What do THEY have to gain from removing all firearms out of the hands of free citizens????

    Safety? No. Security? No. So what is it REALLY?

    • Anonymous

      What nonsense. People are for gun control precisely because they things happen. Nobody loves it when these things happen — what a disgusting thing for you to say. You can disagree with people without turning them into monsters in your head you know. Why don’t you ask those “Leftist, Liberal, Democrat Progressives” why they’re for gun control instead of acting like a paranoid lunatic and presuming they have all these nefarious goals.

      • Anonymous

        Then you should have no problem agreeing to the fixes that dont affect the law abiding gun owners but actually address the crazies and bad guys right?

        • pbmann

          You do realize that most, if not all, of the mass killings involved guns that were purchased legally, not bought on the black market?

          • Anonymous

            You mean like the BATF for refusing to prosecute more than 1% of the 1.83 mil felons, others, and crazies rejected by the background check since 1994.

            http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/html/bcft/2008/bcft08st.pdf USDOJ Background Check & Firearm Transfer report 2008

            Like the BATF for refusing to catch ANY of those lying on their 4473 forms (Cho, Loughner& Holmes were crazy, they lied) or using fake identifications.

            How about the straw buyer for the Columbine killers, why didnt the BATF catch them?

            http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/21/national/main280557.shtml
            General Accounting Office study

            Like the BATF for refusing to do anything about the 95% of felons who don’t even attempt to buy from a licensed source to begin with.

            http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=940 DOJ Firearms use by Offenders Nov 2001

            Like the BATF for refusing to allow civilians access to use the NICS background check for private sales as only licensed dealers are allowed.

            Lets not forget that our politicians play a significant role in enabling the crazies to go free. As a result of VA Tech, Pub. L.
            110-180 NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 was enacted.

            http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/PUBLAW/HTML/PUBLAW/0-0-0-38245.html

            The real question and failure, is what have the states actually funded or resourced to do so?

            http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/nics

            Going to the actual website, we see as of July 2012, there are only 1.7 mil records of people who by due process have lost their 2A rights for being severely mentally ill. Yet mental health experts agree that on avg. over 23.15 mil US adults (50%
            of current 2.7 mil prisoners) are severely mentally ill.

            So is that the 80 mil law abiding gun owners fault, BATF or the politicians, sucker question I know!

            Then all those failures of people in position of authority, who repeatedly fail to do something about it.

            Like the psychiatrist for Cho (VA Tech killer) who failed to notify authorities about Cho before his shooting rampage. You should hold VA Tech responsible for failing to implement appropriate safety measures after they disarmed their students. Review the timeline of the VA Tech shooting and explain again why more laws should be implemented when so many failures occurred that were NOT the law abiding gun owners responsibility!

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre_timeline

            You should hold the sheriff in AZ responsible for failing to press charges against Loughner 4 to 5 times prior to the Gifford’s shooting as we see death threats are not a felony in AZ when your parents are politically connected like Loughners.
            Gifford’s actually ignored death threats and had no security, how foolish.

            The military at least did a little of what antis refuse to do, hold those responsible for failure accountable. They convened a military tribunal and found those 9 Army officers guilty of dereliction of duty for failing to follow military procedures and protocols in handling and processing obvious mentally ill people
            in their ranks. The guilty finding has ended any hope of advancement essentially ending those 9 Officers careers.

            http://www.wane.com/dpps/military/Army-reprimands-9-officers-in-Fort-Hood-shooting_3745084

            Lets not forget the heroes in Aurora CO. You know, the psychiatrist and the Risk Review Board at Colorado University. They had Holmes under review and when he dropped
            out of school, they just like irresponsible children, dropped the issue and notified no one, even when they had acknowledged that he was a risk.

            Thereby enabling Holmes to continue and engage in his killing spree. Lest we not acknowledge the Cinemark theatres who disarm their patrons and do nothing to protect those they disarm should be held accountable as well.

            Then of course we have Lanza, who killed his mother and stole her firearms, firearms by CT law that were supposed to properly stored, another law broken, then took firearms onto school property, another law broken, then killed 26 people, broke the law 26 times, then killed himself when police approached, almost 12 minutes after he broke into the school.

            So explain again what I or the other 80 mil law abiding gun owners had to do with that, oh thats right, nothing.

            Uh why didnt the school have better security measure, they are the ones who made the decision that everyone should be disarmed, oh thats right, protecting the children apparently isnt a priority. But in Israel it is, since the 1970’s there has been oh what, 1 attack on a school, stopped before the attacker, heavily armed with AK-47 and many grenades.

            Yeah, armed gaurds like that couldnt have stopped Lanza before he executed those 20 children at all, man those criminals are so superior, resistance is futile, NOT!

            Shall we look at the FBI report from several years ago?

            Violent Encounters – A study of Felonious Assaults on our nations law enforcement officers

            USDOJ, FBI, National Institute of Justice

            August 2006

            http://www.americanfirearms.org/downloads/fbi_rc_1to3.pdf
            http://www.americanfirearms.org/downloads/fbi_rc_4.pdf
            http://www.americanfirearms.org/downloads/fbi_rc_5to6.pdf
            http://www.americanfirearms.org/downloads/fbi_rc_7to8.pdf
            http://www.americanfirearms.org/downloads/fbi_rc_9.pdf

            You should read the National Sciences Foundation report from 2004 on gun control laws, a study that was formed by the anti gun Clinton Administration so just like the Ludgwig & Cooke study noted below, doesn’t prove any causality theory, much less any effect of gun control laws on violent crime.

            An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003, National Institute of Justice, June 2004

            http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/204431.pdf

            E.G. Government admits the ban didnt do didley squat

            Firearm Violence, a critical Review” 2004
            http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=R2

            Even more hilarious is the fact the antis try to manufacture a mountain out of a molehill.

            http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls

            2010 FBI UCR database shows 1.25 mil violent crimes reported (4 mil not reported USDOJ National Victimization report), 322,691 involved a firearm, 14,748 murders, 358 by illegal use of any type of rifle, 162 by use of a semi-auto rifle banned
            because they look evil.

            (firearms were used in 67.5 percent of the Nation’s murders 14,748 = 9,955, 41.4 percent of 367,832 robberies
            =152,282, and 20.6 percent of aggravated assaults 778,901 =160,453.)

            All while in 2010 FBI UCR, we see deaths committed by illegal use of hands, fists, feet, blunt objects and knives accounted over 3,259 deaths, each by themselves accounting for far more deaths than the anti’s mythical boogeyman, the semi-auto rifle banned because they look evil.

            The anti’s really should get going on registering and banning hands, fist, feet, all type of blunt objects and all knives as clearly they are a more serious threat in the real world.

            Of course the antis will persist as we see what actually happened with Loughner. Loughner, who used a 31 round magazine for his Glock pistol and in doing so, fumbled his
            tactical reload he had not practiced thereby allowing people to tackle his dumb arse.

            A 31 round magazine that when loaded is a heavy unwieldy device that requires a significantly different effort to lock into battery to fire. A fact that anyone with firearms experience, which the vast majority of anti’s have none.

            Many sport shooters use these same pistols in competitions, requiring only 1.4 seconds between last shot fired to first shot fired to first shot in the fresh magazine.

            Really hard to prove to everyone how people, running, ducking, hiding from an active crazy shooter like Loughner, can in 1.4 seconds, recognize the opportunity,stop, turn around, cross that distance and tackle Loughner without getting shot.

            The FT Hood shooter was practiced in tactical reloads, and there are multiple accounts of unarmed, but extremely brave military personnel who in that incident, attacked the shooter to attempt to stop him, they are all DEAD!

            Then Holmes, he who had two of the temperamental and unreliable 100 round BETA c Magazines, who failed to load and properly lubricate either, and within 30 rounds jammed his rifle, leaving about 170 rounds unfired, ending his shooting
            spree.

            Amazing how the shooters were not firearms savvy, unknowledgeable, and as a result, created the windows for stopping or that stopped their shooting spree as like
            good little sheep, those that obeyed the law were disarmed victims enabled by the belief that disarming the law abiding will result in less violence and actions.

            But no, the anti’s wish to limit people to lower capacity magazines. You know, those that are battle proven, ultra reliable so that the possibility of jamming the rifle by inappropriate loading or lubrication is so remote, as to making even untrained killers like Loughner & Holmes that much more effective at
            killing. Such are the unintended consequences of unknowledgeable fools.

        • Anonymous

          Law abiding gun owners still have to have valid reasons for military grade weapons.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, tell that to the 1902 Dick Act and Miller vs US 1939, which as codified law, overrule your beliefs and desires.

            So until you repeal them, and the second amendment, dont really care what you think on what anyone needs!

            You better get busy, everyone has their Don Quixote moments in life, no shame in that!

      • Nat
      • Barry Hirsh

        Baloney. The “friend” that smiles at you as he pulls the lever for Obama is NOT your friend at all. He is an enabler of collectivist totalitarianism.

        • Anonymous

          More communist delusions.

          • Barry Hirsh

            If one actually reads documented statements and positions of Obama’s ‘czars’, one will see that his administration is built of communist-leaning people. And, the head on that fish is just as rotten as its guts.

      • I’m against the corrupt influences of the NRA as anyone, though Robert and others like him are not helping anything. They make the “leftist” stereotypes come to life and give ammunition to goons like inferior.

    • Anonymous

      Good points. The left will always seek to oppress the masses. After all, we are all so stupid and need their direction through a strong central government. The USSR had the Politburo, we have the leftists.

      I do agree with the opinion piece on one level however. If you don’t like the second amendment, repeal it. Of course that won’t happen because that action would require the concurrence of the people, and repressive leftist regimes seek to dictate, and don’t bother with what the masses think.

      • Anonymous

        Another Communist witch-hunt?

        • Barry Hirsh

          Laughable. The whole administration is populated with pseudo-communists.

    • Anonymous

      Total Control like Cuba

    • Anonymous

      And the NRA et al. doesn’t have an agenda? Jump for joy? How absolutely outragous. Showing your true colors?

      • Anonymous

        What your uspet that the child your birthed, the legislative wing of the NRA has all grown up, learned how to play the game better than you and GASP actually has govt. facts to defend their position.

        Such a dicotomy of what ails America, the destruction of the family unit, Where parents of a child, arent proud of their childs accomplishments, how sad!

    • Nat
  • Anonymous

    I was truely enjoying this article ( I usually respect unbiased opinions ) until I read the statement about ” birthers ” and realized the bias intended by your writing. One would suspect that you also do not favor capital punishment for criminals , you do not obey the speed limit and you teach real “liberal ” arts ! Put a sign on your lawn that says ” occupant is unarmed ” if you wish , don’t try to take away my ability to defend myself and family .

    • Anonymous

      Wild, unfounded assumptions.

  • Anonymous

    We have this right to protect fro tyrannical governments.

    Get lost

  • Anonymous

    Hey all you hypocritical Obama yuppies!

    Watch this! Obama doesn’t give a hoot about children! He’s authorized the murder of hundreds, if not thousand!! Wake up

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-orders-children-murdered.html

    • pbmann

      Nice RW wacko site

  • Anonymous
    • pbmann

      Wacko RW site warning

      • Anonymous

        Quite frankly I agree. Alex jones is a bit carried away. But you know I’ve found many other YouTube videos essentially saying the same thing as his video. However, I like his better. It’s well done. Fast forward through his rant at the beginning, I don’t care. Its the message that counts NOT the messenger! I get it though, anything to not acknowledge reality. It’s far more insane to believe Obama and his message.

        Watch the video. Then get back at me…….

      • Anonymous

        Huh, I thought insanity was watching a Nobel PEACE prize winner murder innocent women and children left and right and write it off as collateral damage?! You do realize there are fort to fifty innocent people killed with every drone strike? And that’s a conservative estimate.

        What truly sickens me is that despite the fact that Obama is getting away with far more than W ever dreamed you all cheer along. If someone from the ” other” corporately owned political “party” we’re doing the same you’d be feigning outrage! How do you all sleep at night?

      • Anonymous

        That’s what I thought…………nothing

  • Anonymous

    Point number one: The author is an extreme left-wing, anti-freedom liberal. Of course, since he’s a college teacher, that’s no surprise.

    Point number two: He should move to a country that outlaws guns and see how well those people live.

    Point number three: If he chooses to stay in this gun-crazy, dangerous nation, he should put a sign on his lawn that says, “My home is gun free”. That should get him some interesting visitors.

    Point number four: There are over 44,000 guns laws on the books across this country. And the criminals keep getting their hands on firearms. Gun laws only hurt the law-abiding citizens.

    Point number five: Have you noticed, Mr. Klose, that the murderers seem to target “gun free” zones for their killings? Maybe that is one of the real problems.

    Last point: I certainly hope you don’t teach this left-wing tripe to your students. That would be indoctrination, not education. But, the progressives do love indoctrination.

    • Tom Brown III

      there are actually more like 300 individual laws, with sections, parts, paragraphs,clauses maybe like 20,000 that is the number the NRA tosses around a lot. I have never heard 44,000.

      Nonetheless 300 or 44,000 crazed murders will break any of them that get in the way of their insane goals.

      • Anonymous

        Just like the guy in Norway did.

      • pbmann

        Crazed murderers without guns hardly ever kill many people before being subdued.

        The same day 26 innocent people were killed by a punk with a gun (all the reports state that he would pee his pants and run away if you even looked at him until he got a gun) a man in China attacked 22 kids and one adult with a knife with no fatalities.

        • Anonymous

          Hey all right, all pointy sticks and knifes will be handed out as they are not a problem and getting stuck with them is not a concern, woo hoo. Got lots of stories where people were only wounded, but hey, dont let facts get in the way of your fantasy.

          “The 2010 Chinese school attacks were a series of uncoordina­ted mass stabbings, hammer attacks, and cleaver attacks in the People’s Republic of China beginning in March 2010. The spate of attacks left at least 21 dead and some 90
          injured.”

          The Nanping school massacre (福建南平校园惨案) occurred at Nanping City Experimental Elementary School in the city of Nanping, Fujian Province, People’s Republic of China, in which a man used a knife to kill eight children and seriously wound five others.[1] The incident occurred on March 23, 2010, around 7:20 am local time (UTC+8 ).[2] It was the first of the 2010 Chinese school attacks

          Just a few hours after the execution of Zheng Minsheng in neighborin­g Fujian Province, in Leizhou, Guangdong another knife-wiel­ding man named Chen Kangbing, 33 at Hongfu Primary School wounded 16 students and a teacher.

          An attacker named Wu Huanming, 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergart­en in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010

          On 4 August 2010, 26-year-ol­d Fang Jiantang slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60cm knife, killing 3 children and 1 teacher, at a kindergart­en in Zibo, Shandong province.

          Aug 2, 2012 A teenager has been arrested after killing nine
          people and wounding four others in a knife attack in northeast China, state media reported Thursday. The 17-year-old, who was identified only by his surname Li, barged into the home of his girlfriend armed with a knife following an argument and killed two relatives of the girl, the Legal Daily said. As he left his girlfriend’s home in Liaoning province’s Xinbin county, he stabbed six more people to death and wounded five, it said.
One of the injured died Thursday in hospital, the paper said. Li was arrested near the scene of the attack, late on Wednesday night, and was taken into custody, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

          Sept 28, 2012 An ax-wielding man burst into a day care center in China and attacked the children, killing three and wounding another 13 before police subdued him. The incident took place in China’s southern province of Guangxi.

          The Osaka School Massacre took place on June 8, 2001, at Ikeda Elementary School, an elite primary school
          affiliated with Osaka Kyoiku University in Osaka Prefecture,
          Japan. At 10:15 that morning, 37-year-old former janitor
          Mamoru Takuma entered the school armed with a kitchen knife
          and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. He killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.

          The Akihabara massacre (秋葉原通り魔事件 Akihabara Tōrima Jiken?, lit. “Akihabara random attacker incident”) was an incident of mass murder that took place on Sunday, June 8, 2008, in the Akihabara shopping quarter for electronics, video games and comics in Sotokanda, Chiyoda, Tokyo, Japan.

          At 12:33 p.m. JST, a man hit a crowd with a truck, eventually killing three people and injuring two; he then stabbed at least 12 people using a dagger (initially reported as a survival
          knife[1]), killing four people and injuring eight.[2][3][4][5]

          The Oklahoma City bombing was a terrorist bomb attack on the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Downtown Oklahoma City
          on April 19, 1995. It would remain the most destructive act of terrorism on American soil until the September 11, 2001
          attacks. The Oklahoma blast claimed 168 lives, including 19 children under the age of 6[1] and injured more than 680 people.

          The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, four other
          adults and the bomber himself; at least 58 people were injured. Most of the victims were children in the second to sixth grades (7–14 years of age [1]) attending the Bath Consolidated School. Their deaths constitute the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history and the third-deadliest massacre in U.S. history, behind the Oklahoma City bombing and the September 11 attacks.

          Just a matter of time before you convince the crazies to start using bombs, gasoline and fire bombs to force evacuation fire drills to bring their victims to them!

    • Tedlick Badkey

      YOU love indoctrination EJ… you just want that indoctrination to be all about mythology, crucified carpenters, and magic sky daddies.

    • Anonymous

      It’s readily obvious that when you accuse others of poor behavior, you’re projecting your own bad qualities onto others. Try some self-reflection for once EJP, it would do you wonders.

    • pbmann

      Point 1 – Stupid point

      Point 2 – I lived in a country with very strict gun laws and they seemed to love the fact that they were safe from gun violence and the nuts associated with it.

      Point 3 – Other stupid point

      Point 4 – Show me one mass murder committed by a person who used a gun from the black market.

      Point 5 – Did you notice that most public places are gun free and should be.

      Point 6 – For indoctrination look at original poster.

    • Anonymous

      As expected from you, EJP. Hoiw do you know he’s “guilty” of your extreme labels? All college professors fit your extreme, stereotyped mold?
      As for teaching “left-wing tripe” (there is no right-wing tripe, right??), he teaches biology, not potentially polical,like history. Oh wait, since you’re a Biblical Literalist, maybe even a creationist, that’s even more damning (literally) isn’t it. Well, case closed, judge and jury EJP has closed the kangaroo court (in abstentia, no less)

  • Anonymous

    here is another view from, a professor with better credentials

    http://www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/2amd_grammar.htm

    • Barry Hirsh

      BINGO!

  • Anonymous

    Citizens cannot own M-16’s. These are the fools teaching our children, and we have to ask what is wrong with our country. Maybe Mr. Klose should take a few more history classes, or as a Professor Of Biological Science – he should stick to what he knows.

    • pbmann

      No but they can own semi-automatic copies of M16’s that are capable of firing as fast as you can pull the trigger. Most of the victims had been shot multiple times, the first child was shot 11 times.

      • Barry Hirsh

        The primary purpose enumerated in the amendment was to protect the right to arms that put the people in parity with the government.

      • Anonymous

        what does it matter how many times the child was shot…apparantly you’d be happier if the child was shot once with a handgun…

        good lord, what ails you liberal, brainless freaks

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, so how many minutes does it take for that to occur, he had 12 minutes before the first officer moved in on him. Oh thats right, the cops, you know, the people you claim can protect people, the only way to stop the bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

        Oh thats right, it is just better to let the psycho kill at will right?

        You should just be thankful he wasnt using a 12 ga w #2 shot, 50 .177 cal pellets per shell, 4 shots in a class room and he hits them all, next room while he reloads. See a shotgun is the actual preferred tool for breaching a locked door, using slugs, very easy and dont know of any schools that have doors that can stop such a slug.

        So since you dont want to ban a shotgun, and nothing you want to do will affect the bad/crazy guys, there will be more crazies going to kill in your gun free victim disarmament zones you antis love! They will use shotguns because our media will teach them how to do so as without the violence and the killings, the media, and you antis have no platform to promote your lie that gun control of the law abiding reduces violence by the crazies and bad guys, as it never does.

  • Nat
  • Tedlick Badkey

    Robert Klose,

    NO! NO TODAY, NO YESTERDAY, NO TOMORROW!

    That is all.

  • Anonymous

    You can appeal the 2nd right after you appeal the 1st one, in the 1700s each side had the same and equal arms, it was called a musket, I’m sure they never thought there would be AK-47s and AR-15s, this Amendment does not only give you the right to protect your home, it also protects you against an out of control gov/army like hitler, and the one today Syria which has murdered over 40k of its own, who protected them and how many kids are in the 40k number? Who are you going to call when someone breaks into your house or when you are held at gun point being robed A GUY WITH A GUN., or pray someone has a carry permit close by, because cops can not be everywhere. 15 years ago we never thought planes would be used as bombs but here we are, and now it a hassle to fly, time to protect our schools/kids, by any means necessary. Guns bans will and did not work in Norway.

    • Barry Hirsh

      Correct. The types of arms intended to be protected for the people were those that put them in parity with government foot soldiers.

  • Michael De Armond

    Only Cowards trade other peoples rights and freedom for their perceived safety.

    • Only cowards who don’t need to live among the masses being shot perceive their personal recreation as a freedom more important than human life.

      8,500 gunshot deaths every year in the US just so you are no inconvenienced.

      • Anonymous

        How many people do think are going to be maimed and injured and killed when an attempt is made to collect peoples firearms after the second amendment is repealed?

        • pbmann

          Very few because from what I can tell most gun nuts are cowards.

          • Anonymous

            Are you going to count on that?

            Edit: Most lefties are sheep.

          • Anonymous

            Wear a pink tutu when you come for them and find out for yourself, lol!

        • Anonymous

          Alot could be voluntarily, Gun buy back programs are very successful.

          • Anonymous

            Gun buyback programs are successful in buying junk from people who want to get rid of it. A typical government program that does nothing but waste money.

      • pbmann

        Actually this year there will be more gun deaths (over 33,000) then auto vehicle deaths (32,000) in this country.

      • Barry Hirsh

        Beg to differ, sir. Personal security is not recreation, it is our right as individuals. And, it is primarily the individual’s responsibility to protect it, not the police’s. Before you embarrass yourself, Google “The police have no duty to protect individuals, only society at large.” and see what you come up with.

        • Anonymous

          So when gun owners go to shooting ranges, that’s not recreation? When gun owners spend days in the woods with friends and family hunting, that’s not recreation?

          • Barry Hirsh

            Misdirection. The right exists for self-defense, both as individuals and as a people. Practicing at gun ranges is necessary to maintain the ability to shoot effectively.

            If it were to be viewed constitutionally as a “sport”, your argument would have validity. Since it is not, your argument does not. The “sporting purposes” crap is just that – crap, invented from whole cloth by the gun-control movement in the 1960’s, and they’ve been using “sporting purposes” as a canard ever since. The amendment doesn’t exist to guarantee a right to “sporting purposes”.

  • Anonymous

    Murder was invented my man, not a club, a spear, a sword, a gun or the bomb, and man has invented more efficient and faster way of doing it. When objects start thinking and acting on their own free will please alert Mankind.

    • Anonymous

      So why do we care that certain nations are working towards creating nuclear weapons? Just objects after all.

      • Barry Hirsh

        The concern is not with the weapons, per se. It is with the nations seeking to possess them. Just like the concern here is not with guns, it is with the types of people seeking to possess them (crooks, loony toons, Democrats….).

    • 8,500 gunshot deaths in the US yearly. How many die from bombs yearly? How many die from swords yearly? The FBI does track those, by the way. Do the research, I have.

  • Barry Hirsh

    “The right there specified is that of ‘bearing arms for a lawful purpose.’ This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.” – U S v. CRUIKSHANK, 92 U.S. 542 (1875) 92 U.S. 542

    You may take the right out of the Bill of Rights, but you can’t take the right from the people.

    And, you do realize that it won’t happen, EVER? The present makeup of the Congress and the national ethos of the majority of the states make it impossible.

    Thank God.

  • Barry Hirsh

    “My first reaction to this ruling was that the justices shared a common malady: the inability to read and interpret dependent clauses; in this
    case, the first part of the Second Amendment, which reads, ‘A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State.’ ”

    You may wish to take a remedial course in reading comprehension:

    http://www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/2amd_grammar.htm

    • Well organized militia = Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard.

      They are fighting forces raised from the civilian population. Also, the Second Amendment applied to muzzle loaders.

      • Barry Hirsh

        Wrong on both counts, William.

        First of all, the term “organized” appears nowhere in the amendment. The modifier used is “well-regulated”, not “well-organized”, and it applies to the militia when acting as a militia. It does not affect the right.

        And, the Constitution recognizes two militias – one organized, and one unorganized. The first is the National and State Guards and miltary reserves. The latter is the total pool of people who potentially could be included in the militia. Read, ALL OF US who are old enough and young enough to serve. What you claim is the “militia” is actually a STANDING ARMY.

        Follow the link I posted and re-learn the rules of English grammar. The right is one of the people, not the militia, and while the militia is to be “well-regulated”, the right is unconditional.

        “As we will describe below, the “militia” in colonial America consisted of a subset of ‘the people’— those who were male, able bodied, and within a certain age range. Reading the Second Amendment as protecting only the right to ‘keep and bear Arms’ in an organized militia therefore fits poorly with the operative clause’s description of the holder of that right as ‘the people’.” – DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER (No. 07-290) 478 F. 3d 370, affirmed

        As to your “muzzle loaders” nonsense, please. That argument is juvenile.

        “Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001) , the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.” – DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER (No. 07-290) 478 F. 3d 370, affirmed

  • Anonymous

    “Certain forms of ammunition have no legitimate sporting, recreational, or self-defense use and thus should be prohibited.” Ronald Reagan

    • Barry Hirsh

      That’s true, when you’re talking about tracers and depleted uranium rounds. It is not true when talking about FMJ Spitzer rifle rounds, which, besides being servicable hunting ammunition for large game also will penetrate a vest like a hot knife through butter. As a matter of fact, most rifle rounds will penetrate a vest, unless it’s milspec battle-worthy.

  • For a more mature understanding on the question “Is the damage to society from the misuse of guns worth the freedom to have guns?” read http://jack-burton.hubpages.com/hub/damage-society-guns

  • Mary Stubbs

    Mr. Klose, like many liberals, has conveniently left out the rest of the second amendment, the truth. The entire amendment reads, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Nice try Bob. Maybe you can find another less obvious way to mislead people. This is so typical of the left.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t own a gun – haven’t since a teenager hunting with my father – not a member of NRA. Any whiff 2nd ammendment could be repealed and I will go out and buy several, take gun safety refresher classes, go to the shooting range, and keep my right to be armed. Teach your children well, lock your guns and ammo separately. Make crimes involving guns more than a slap on the wrist. Criminals will always have access – law abiding people will be penalized. If you believe your child has emmotional issues – keep them away from violent shows, videos and access to guns.

    • Anonymous

      We have some of the highest incarceration rates in the world and the highest rates of gun violence. Don’t think that “criminals will always have access” is necessarily true.

      • Barry Hirsh

        Yo, genius. It’s the ones ON THE STREET that have the guns, not the ones in the joint, and the ones in the joint will eventually be released and the first thing they will do is (*SURPRISE!*) go get one.

  • Any new laws regarding firearms that don’t take a comprehensive approach including: mental health, culture, media glamorization, and movie/video game violence and the exposure of kids is worthless. High capacity Semi automatic shotguns have been available for many years before this epidemic. The magazine capacity for the AR-15 type rifles has gone up, but a good semi auto hunting rifle is only slightly slower to reload. I’m not an NRA member, but if we ban ALL guns, criminals will be the only ones with them. Here is what I say we should consider:

    Bans on violent video games for ages 18 and younger

    Bans on allowing violent movies to be seen by kids under 18

    Ban on violent tv shows before 10 pm and/or require a code to activate the channel during that type of program so parents control the tv

    Ban on tv programming that glorifies gang activity and music videos involving guns or songs about guns.

    National database of mental health reporting that can be accessed by the ATF as part of the standard background check. Mental issues? No sale.

    Close loopholes on private gun sales by requiring all guns to be sold only thru a licensed FFL dealer with the required background check. Including gun shows. New stiff penalties for violating this law to go with it.

    Health classes from an early age teaching the dangers of firearms in the wrong hands and classes offered to teach sport shooting and hunting as the RIGHT use of firearms. You teach kids to say no to drugs, how about teaching them to say no to gun violence?

    It is a start anyhow.

    • Barry Hirsh

      “National database of mental health reporting that can be accessed by the ATF as part of the standard background check.”

      Yeah, that worked out so well for the proletariat laboring under the Supreme Soviet, right? Just ask Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. What would be next, gulags…?

  • Newcitizen

    These “gun rights” types cry when asked to pay their fair 50-60% to assist the greater society and those less fortunate or able. America can never achieve citizenship in a sustainable world unless these values of capitalism and individualism go the way of American isolationism. Disarming is not a final solution to this plague upon us. These people must be concentrated somewhere for their protection and our protection. Until they are re-educated or otherwise dealt with, there is no hope of a sustainable world community, By whatever name you call God, he has sent us a great prophet in the White House to grant us a peaceful world community.

  • Mark M

    I want the second amendment repealed. Why? I’d like our society to be civilized rather than behaving like wild animals, living in fear every second of their lives with a kill or be killed mentality. Anyone who thinks we can prevent such tragic events without repeal is just kidding themselves. The repeal itself won’t do it, but it will allow us to start writing laws and policies that will. Otherwise, it’s status quo forever.

    • Barry Hirsh

      “The right there specified is that of ‘bearing arms for a lawful purpose.’ This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.” – U S v. CRUIKSHANK, 92 U.S. 542 (1875) 92 U.S. 542

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps repealing the Second Amendment is NOT the answer since it would cause so much chaos in our gun-loving society. What I do suggest, however, is that if we insist upon adhering to a decree crafted for a society 221 years ago, then we should adhere to it to the FULL extent of the intentions of those who wrote and ratified it. Therefore, the government must allow any and all adult citizens of the U.S. to bear a musket and gunpowder and all the loading accessories necessary for its proper operation. Period. All other (19th-20th-21st century) firearms should be confiscated and destroyed as they are certainly NOT what our “forefathers” had in mind when they wrote the Second Amendment. Problem solved. Rights protected.

  • Anonymous

    Professor Klose feels that we should start messing about with the Bill of Rights (ignoring the fact that the Constitution was adopted on the promise that a Bill of Rights would be immediately proposed). So what should be next: I believe
    that Professor Klose should certainly be able to house and feed three
    or four members of the Armed Forces at his expense. If he is convicted of a crime, why on earth shouldn’t he be subject to severe (aka cruel and unusual punishment). Why should a Search Warrant be required to search his house or office. Why on earth should he have the right to a jury trial in Civil Suits. Particularly why should he have the right to publish such articles as this in a newspaper.

  • I find it odd that the founding fathers would use the second amendment to make sure that hunting remains a right in the United States! Is that what they meant in writing the second amendment? Hunting?….I think you “proffessors” were stoned in history class!!

  • John Doe

    The 2nd amendment was created so that one day if the government shall ever try to rule and control the people, just as Great Britain did, we could defend ourselves. The government is all about control and they should not control this. How about instead of blaming guns you blame the person with psychiatrist help. Instead of putting regulations on guns why not have a mandatory psychiatric evaluation once you reach a certain school age, just like certain physical exams are necessary.

  • wyatt

    Because there is a well regulated militia which is necessary to the security of a free state the right of the people to have them to protect themselves from the regulated militia shall not be infringed. Dont know whats so hard about understanding the difference between the regulated or organized and unregulated or unorganized militia and why its important that we have the weapons we have.

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