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  • Anonymous

    Hard to believe after all she has said and done. I am
    confident this “nice guy” approach is just another avenue to get to the ultimate
    goal of a NP. We understand who see is, where she came from, who her friends
    are and what she truly believes.

    • Anonymous

      She could fence it all off and make a private park with an admission fee set by the market. It’s the Republican way. It will be like a lot of the parks in Africa, where the locals can’t afford the price.

      Or maybe a huge number of windmills, shipping all the electricity off to Canada. That’s the free market at work for you.

      • Anonymous

        Now that sounds like a really good idea. With our open door policy for big business…it would be great! Think of all that revenue it would generate. “my tongue is in my cheek”

      • Anonymous

        Not a crazy idea. I am friends with a former Senator in NY that did that to his property. He was sick and tired of people using his land while trashing him all along the way. He gated it, posted guards in season and has employees controlling access. It has made him a ton of money charging people to use his awesome hunting and fishing grounds but the reason he did it was out of principle alone.

        If people are dumb and ignorant enough to keep bashing Roxanne she can take it all away. It would take all of 5 minutes for her to do that with her resources.

        Roxanne if you are reading this, please know many of us are very thankful for not clear cutting all your property, not turning it into subdivisions and still allowing us to use it. Thank you.

        • Anonymous

          Apparently you are unaware that is is illegal to “clearcut all of your property” in Maine when you own a property of that size and the LURC regulations make a subdivision of that size impossible to permit (ask Plum Creek who spent years working on a subdivision of < 4% of their ownership). Roxanne can do what she likes with her land…as long as the government approves of it.

          • Anonymous

            I’m sure that LePage would support clear cutting.

          • Anonymous

            So, if she chose to, she could hammer what little timber was left by the previous owners this year and wait a couple more years before turning next to all of it into raspberries. If you knew anything about Plum Creek’s development or provide any type of reasonable comment on its density you’d know that they were cluster developing
            and that they have been allowed significant density on the area’s where they are building while other areas remain for recreational uses. Enough good business folk trashed their lands and degraded their neighbors to the point where gov. did have to regulate.

          • Anonymous

            You left out all the environment groups too

          • Anonymous

            Gee I wasn’t aware. Then how was I spotting moose 1000 yards away on many clear cuts owned by paper companies without a single tree obstructing my views. The point is that she doesn’t have to preserve anything. She could turn it into slash piles and raspberry patches like the paper companies have and then plant seedlings there and all would be happy. Personally I’m not impressed with the sad excuse for forest management on many paper company owned lots.

          • Anonymous

            Do you have a clue how far 1,000 yards is? There may be 3 places in the north Maine woods were you can see 1,000 yards, all at the tops of small mountains.

            Besides, the paper companies don’t own land in Maine anymore. There is not one paper company in Maine that owns significant timberland. Angus saw to that with his son of compact legislation. Who wants to own an asset that requires 100 years for a return when government will change the rules every 3 years?

  • Roxanne, the people of the katahdin region need you so bad. Please reconsider your plans and make this happen. Perhaps keep it out of the media and do it anyway!!!! We are a dying group of communities and this is just what we need. After all, you can do exactly what you want with your land. I would freak if anyone tried to tell me what I could or could not do with mine. All we have up here is dying paper mills that are going to die for good soon. Remember, that “paper mill” mentality is a thing of the past. Unite as one and get it done!

    • Anonymous

      thanks for checking in cindy dill.

  • Anonymous

    Tax that property like the state taxes mine.

    • Anonymous

      Fence the property off and make it a private game reserve, with entrance fees set by the market. The locals won’t be able to afford it, I bet, but that’s good old capitalism at its best.

      • Anonymous

        The locals are going to go to Baxter State park.
        Not only is it free but there is something to see.

        • Anonymous

          That’s right, the locals will go to Baxter, along with the rich folk from out-of-state. They’ll pass right on by Roxy’s property. People go to BSP to actually hike on the mountain, camp near the mountain, see game, fish, hunt (in the far northern portion), all for the price of parking. It’s very reasonable. Roxy has a couple of views to offer-that’s about it

        • Anonymous

          Private game reserve, exotic animals, like in Texas. Huge profit:

          http://www.huntingtexastrophies.com/texas-hunting-packages/exotic-hunting/

          • Anonymous

            exotic animals wouldn’t survive in northern Maine.

      • Anonymous

        She doesn’t approve of hunting. Any other ideas?

    • Anonymous

      what makes you think she isn’t

      • Anonymous

        Her property is at a reduced tax rate through the tree growth program. This program is intended for those that will harvest the trees as has been done for 150 years on this property. She has publicly stated that it is no longer intended for timber harvesting therefore why is it still getting the reduced tax rate.

        • Anonymous

          Ya I have yet to figure out why they are letting her pull that one.

        • Anonymous

          You talk a lot, but you offer no FACTS to back up your bluster. Timber harvesting does not always mean clear cutting; selective cutting is permitted, and in some cases encouraged, under the tree growth plan. If it is found that she’s in violation of the tree growth program and hasn’t filed the proper paperwork and management plan (just like I have to), then she can be liable for the full tax on raw land for the past 10 years, or however long she’s owned it. As for your comments, you need to provide facts to support your claims or your just blowing smoke.

          • Anonymous

            Roxanne Quimby has numerous times stated that she does not want timber harvesting on her properties in fact she would like to donate them to the NPS which does not allow timber harvesting. I will cite sources if needed.

            EPI’s website states that within the Sebec and East Branch Preserve ‘select areas’ will be have plans for sawlog harvesting. She has all of that land in tree growth. Not just select areas that according to the website have not as yet determined.Check with the Maine revenue service if you would like on land status.

        • Anonymous

          either she has a harvest plan or she doesn’t. if she doesn’t, then she’s not getting the tax break. sounds like you’re not sure exactly whatz up with their taxes and just moaning to hear yourself moan

    • Anonymous

      Well, chummy, guess what; THEY ARE.

  • Anonymous

    It’s her land and I don’t care what she does with it. Just like it’s no one business what I do with mine. I do allow hunting on mine.It’s up to the National Park Service whether she gets her park or not.With all the mountains and ridges there it would make a good place for windmills.

  • OhWell

    She also has said all landowners have a right to control their own land. Her opponents agree.

    “I think that the park we have here is enough,” said Patty Sheehan, a 54-year-old Millinocket resident. “I just really want my friends to be able to snowsled wherever they want.”

    Interesting, the area residents believe in property rights, as long as they do not have to obey them!

    • Anonymous

      Most of the people who feel like Patty own a 100ftX100ft house lot or smaller.

      • OhWell

        So what? Just because you don’t own a big lot doesn’t mean you have the right to use your neighbors!

        • Anonymous

          That’s my point.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t take the comment so literally. I doubt she means anything other than the trails Quimby shut down and closed off which caused a lot of access issues within the snowmobile and atv trail systems over the past few years.

      • OhWell

        Once again, it is her property. If you want the guaranteed right to snowmobile buy the property yourself and enjoy picking up the trash.

        • Anonymous

          She can do whatever she wants with her land, doesn’t mean people can wish she would do it differently. See Also: ” But they also say that banning people from her land, which sometimes leaves some other parcels inaccessible, does economic harm and is an affront to northern Maine culture.”

          Do not discount the culture issue as well. It has been deeply ingrained through many generations that neighbors share with neighbors. People have hunted, fished, and recreated on land for 3+ generations and suddenly find that an outsider has come in and shut them off. Regardless of Quimby being legally able to do what she wants with her land, culturally in the area it is ethically and morally wrong. To expect anything other than rampant rejection and anti-Quimby backlash is foolish.

          • OhWell

            The old saying comes to mind, “Change takes time.” Must be why the region still believes antiquated paper mills are the future.

          • Anonymous

            It has more to do with access, than the mills, hunting, fishing and other forms of recreation.

          • Anonymous

            So where do you stand on Indian rights and their
            contention that they owned all of these lands? Were you in favor of the Maine
            Indian Land Claims deal or actually think they were sold old short? Should they
            still be allowed to carry on traditions they had in place for thousands of
            years?

          • Anonymous

            Not quite sure what you are getting at. Issues, especially ones like that are extraordinarily complicated. Quimby and her land much less so. She owns her land and is more than welcome to do what she wants with it. She has to abide by local, state, and federal laws, regulations, and limitations but everything within those set boundaries is up to her.

            Will I or do I agree with her? No. Would I do things different? Yes. I am allowed to disagree with her, I am allowed to wish to have the same access three generations ago had, and I am allowed to fight against a park proposal. Am I trespassing on her land or otherwise breaking laws? No. She has her land and can buy supporters of her opinions. I have my opinions and I can barely enough money to afford this free disqus account. Thankfully more politicians share my opinions than she can afford.

          • Anonymous

            My point is that your statement does not appear to be very well thought out. You believe history is on your side yet you conveniently ignore several millennia of prior history.

            You have every right to speak your mind, have your own opinion, however, that doesn’t make your thought well conceived.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t see how I said anything about history. I said 3+ generations have had access and taking that away will cause many issues. Law and culture are two different things that are finding themselves at odds and none of it has anything to do with native americans.

          • Anonymous

            yikes, look up the definition of history

          • Anonymous

            Yikes! Your strawman is terrible!

          • Anonymous

            Not really, problem is you’re semi-literate

          • Anonymous

            Straw men and ad hominem attacks, you are a truly the master of debate.

          • Anonymous

            Not my fault you don’t have the capacity to understand a relatively simple concept or even the multiple definitions of a word. Then you refuse to admit short comings or then don’t even have the acumen to recognize you’ve no clue. Obviously you’ve been there before, the canned right-wing replies are the best sign.

          • Anonymous

            Funny because I am incredibly liberal. I barely touched on “history” and only referenced the past to put the current mind set into perspective. When something is always one way and then over night someone from outside the group forces it to be another way, you will get backlash and resentment. Take your fallacious BS and take a hike because I thought you might have come for an open minded debate on the issues at hand but you only spit garbage out.

        • Anonymous

          It is not just snowmobiling that is an excuse, no fishing, no hunting. Although it is her right, it is also our right to not want a park.

        • Anonymous

          She can do what she wants however if you have the tree growth tax exemption then you are required to have access to the public to use it, does not mean snowmobiling and atving, but access, fence it off who cares, but when she gates it all or fences it, she can pay the higher tax rate.

          • Anonymous

            Please take a peek at 36 MRSA at the State web site. Access for the public is not a requirement of the Tree Growth tax law. Participation was also mandatory for some large lots.

            Effectively landlocking the parcels of others does call for research in the Registry and lawyers.

          • Anonymous

            State mandates access to any body of water larger than.. I believe 10 acres. Does not have to be vehicle access however.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, because she has probably never been audited. Give me a break. Her taxes are probably very scrutinized, obviously she is following the law in order to still be taking the exemption. Also how do we know she is taking the exemption?

        • Anonymous

          Perfectly clear!

    • Anonymous

      Maine has a long standing history and tradition of large landowners allowing access for recreation. It can be traced back to the Great Ponds Act of Massachessetts in the 1600’s. Maine leads the nation in land owner and recreational users cooperating for the good of all. It helps the state and regional economy. Can she cut off access YOU BET. It is her right. But we are talking about 70,000 acres of woods that have helped support the local economy and livelihoods for over 200 years.

      RQ touts wanting to improve the regional economy when her actions have and are harming the ability of those in the region to earn a living. Dont believe me? Call Matagamon Wilderness and find out how much their business has suffered through her actions. Or try Bowlin camps which no longer has rights to access camps on land next to Baxter. How about the camp owners thrown off land along the Penobscot River. Do you suppose they shopped, bought gas and went out to dinner in the region? Fisherman who no longer can get to portions of the East Branch because of gates on the roads. Rafting, canoeing and guided fishing trips that have lost access points for putting in or pulling out.

      I love to hear how much she wants to help the people of Maine. If that is the case why did she move her company out of the state? A comparable company Toms of Maine made a commitment to stay here in Maine. Why did she not have that same commitment? Yes it is her right to do with her land and company as she sees fit but it rings hollow here to see anything she does as genuine.

      Residents and those that vist the region have not forgoten 10 years or more of statements from her that her lands would become the seed for the larger RESTORE vision. Comments on national TV to buy all the land around Baxter to donate to the National park. (Today show with Bob Dotson 2005) Her comment was that she would spend her entire fortune to make it happen. Bob Dotson surprised asked ‘All of it? RQ ‘certainly, every penny!’ For those not affected they wouldnt have noticed. Yet for those that are affected you dont think they have watched her actions matching her previous comments and agenda?

      Want some of the history of this issue go to http://preservemainetraditions.com/

      • OhWell

        It is a bear when you have to rely on others for a living, or in this case their land. Welcome to the real world, No one owes you anything so buck up and buy the land yourself or find a new profession or hobby.

  • Anonymous

    She has a right to do whatever she wants to do with HER land. If you don’t like it, then stop selling her your land!!!

    • Anonymous

      Quimby should start an exotic hunting ranch, private ownership, like they have in Texas. Private land, private industry, sold at market prices:

      http://www.huntingtexastrophies.com/texas-hunting-packages/exotic-hunting/

      Free market at its finest.

    • Anonymous

      I hope that she announces that its going to be closed off for public access for the next 50 years, to all the land to return to it’s natural, unspoiled state.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t care what she does with it,it’s hers.I just hope she pays the same tax rate as everyone else.

  • Anonymous

    “Quimby has said she generally favors what her opponents call environmental preservationism: leaving the forest pristine and accessible only for passive uses such as hiking and bird-watching.”

    I wonder if she was thinking about “environmental preservationism” when she sold Burt’s Bees to a chemical company. Wasn’t particularly discriminating was she? She probably figures the end justifies the means.

    Maybe she will develop it. That would create jobs. She could build a road system and other infrastructure, then she could put up condos or townhomes facing the west: A room with a view:)

  • Anonymous

    If I were Quimby, I’d fence the whole thing off and do what Republicans say they like: create a private industry, a private park with an admission rate that is set by the market. There are plenty of people in big cities who will pay top dollar to visit Maine’s beauty, unbothered by the sounds of loud machinery, and many of the locals won’t be able to afford it.

    • Anonymous

      “There are plenty of people in big cities who will pay top dollar to visit Maine’s beauty”
      Really? Must be why all the campgrounds are closed down or for sale.

      • Anonymous

        This will be a private park, with no locals to get in the way, a personal guide, fenced off , and overnight accommodations for the visitors. Private hunting, private hiking, maybe a hot tub and sauna. And there will be plenty of security around the perimeter, including cameras.

        There are drone security robots now that can film in the dark, have infinite patience, and will never leave their post.

        Welcome to capitalism and free enterprise. This is the Republican dream of private business selling a product at market price.

        • Anonymous

          Cool -as long as she pays for it herself.
          Really your acting like her making a private park is some punishment.
          If she wants a park that is how it should be done – with her money.

          • Anonymous

            I’m glad we agree.

      • Anonymous

        People with bucks don’t want to camp.

    • Anonymous

      she has already fenced it off. Is she a Republican, I hardly doubt it.

      • Anonymous

        No, the Republicans are the ones who fence off all the coast for
        themselves! LOL!

    • Anonymous

      Private park will go broke in a year

      • Anonymous

        exactly

      • Anonymous

        Ever been to Texas? They have exotic animal hunting parks–where you can hunt African animals. They do just fine. If the locals don’t like African animals being hunted in a private business next to them–too bad. Quimby can do what she want with her land and promote her own private business.

        http://www.huntingtexastrophies.com/texas-hunting-packages/exotic-hunting/

        • Anonymous

          I wish her well – I hope she does do something with it. I just don’t want to pay for it.

        • Anonymous

          Hey Sprucie SHE DOESN’T BELIEVE IN HUNTING! Have you not been paying attention?

      • Anonymous

        so won’t a private east west highway

  • With a State park, the state of Maine owns the land. With a National Park, the US Government owns the land and we are one step closer to being North Korea…comrades!

    • maineiac123

      You really are a twit, aren’t you?

    • Anonymous

      Run hide, the Martians are coming, the Martians are coming!!!

  • Anonymous

    i hope she gates it all up. those yokles had their chance

  • Anonymous

    “I don’t know her,” McLaughlin said, referring to Quimby. “Maybe she is a
    good person, but does she know how many people she makes mad with what
    she does?”

    What a ridiculous comment. Kind of condescending coming from a store clerk. “Maybe she is a good person” uhhhh, from someone that does know her,rest assure, she is a good person by most standards anyway. Now if some consider someone that drinks beer all day while abusing other peoples property without so much as a thank you to the owner a “good person” then she might not qualify.

    I am an avid outdoors man but an American first. This woman clearly is a perfect example of capitalism and living the American dream. 20 years ago she was using a 5 gallon bucket to go to the bathroom and 10 years later she is a multi millionaire, job creator and environmentalist. Many people think hunters aren’t into preserving the environment but most of us are. I have seen the most beautiful scenes in this world while many were still asleep in my quest to shoot my dinner. I can afford anything but I like to eat what I kill and until I can buy fresh free graze venison, moose, partridge and duck and rabbit at the grocery store I will continue to kill my dinner whenever I am fortunate enough to do so. If everyone posted their land there would be no hunting in Maine whatsoever unless it was by large tract land owners. There are more hunters then large tract land owners. Know that.

    After the way she has been treated, if I was Ms. Quimby I would gate all of it and pay guards to keep people off it. I would then make them submit a written request and short story why they feel they are privileged enough to be on my personal property. That would be mostly just for personal humor. Imagine reading that. It would start off with. “I aint got no ideer why we aint aloud to hunt that road no more. If I….” blah, blah blah. Then I would charge them a small annual fee to hunt my property after they signed a waiver saying they wouldn’t sue me if they trip and fall. I would then take those funds received and establish a fund. That fund would be used to send Mainers that do not have a high school diploma to adult ed. I might force them to take an entry level real estate class in order to hunt my property as well. Maybe then they will understand how real estate works. You buy it, you can post it, all of it.

    Roxanne should be thanked not ridiculed by a bunch of ignorance. As an avid hunter I have hunted her land, most in northern Maine have without even knowing it, and I am thankful that she continues to let us use it. That’s right, she lets us use it. She doesn’t have to do anything for the people of Maine.

    Also, she might be more open to letting people hunt it if she was treated a little better by us Mainers.

    • Anonymous

      “Also, she might be more open to letting people hunt it if she was treated a little better by us Mainers.”

      Ahh yes Extortion. A tactic all to Familiar to Quimby. She must have rubbed off on you. Or you on her.

      • Anonymous

        It’s not extortion. There is no force here.

    • Anonymous

      “I am thankful that she continues to let us use it”…..She has gated her land (her choice, no problem with that), so if you were using it without knowing it, you were trespassing. She doesn’t allow hunting. She can do what she wants with it. She can spend her money to develop it. She can cut every tree and make a profit on it. I don’t care.

      When was Roxy using a bucket as a toilet? She’s the daughter of an engineer, and went to school in San Francisco. She chose to build an outhouse, no doubt, as an experiment. You make it seem as if she was some backwoods hick who made it big. She’s from Massachusetts. She sold her ‘environmentally friendly’ company (which,incidentally, she moved to NC to improve her bottom line) to big money, and to a chemical company-‘Clorox’.

      You talk of condescension. Roxy oozes it. She’s a typical liberal elitist, who sold her company to the highest bidder, and now uses her wealth to further her radical environmental agenda. I guess being a hypocrite doesn’t bother her too much.

      • maineiac123

        I’m trying to figure out the hypocrite part. She’s not supposed to sell her company because…..?

        • Anonymous

          She’s a ‘environmental preservationist’. She believes the forests should be left to return to their pristine state. So she says.

          Her ‘environmentally friendly’ company was sold to big money that has ties to oil, and then it was bought out, including her remaining stake, by Clorox-a chemical manufacturing company. Seems rather incongruous doesn’t it? I guess when it comes to where she gets her money to operate, her ‘beliefs’ can be subject to her bank account.

          • Anonymous

            Is your vission also limited to black and white

          • maineiac123

            So she sold her company. Are you alledging that the products are no longer environmentally friendly? Or was she simply to sell to some other “environmentally friendly” company for a less amount of money to satisfy your sense of ethics. There is no hypocracy, there was good business sense.

          • Anonymous

            So what does any of this have to do with a national park?

      • Anonymous

        You clearly don’t know her. All of her land isn’t gated and she doesn’t police hunters using it. Does she hunt, doubtful. She does allow others to hunt on it. I was on it last week, no gate, no signs, no problem. I did pick up an empty busch light box and 9 returnables. If someone trashed my land I would be closer to posting it. She has been trashed by just about everyone. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. “Here is a state park”. Mainers “no thanks, we would rather have you post it, harvest it, split it up and sell it off in small chunks etc.” How ignorant.

        She is a screaming success and many are simply jealous of her wealth. She built it when others around her missed the opportunity. She is a 1%er for sure and she is another validation that not all 1%ers are evil. Plus unfortunately some men are intimidated by her so they choose to attack her which is still pretty sickening. Those Ban Roxanne stickers may as well have someones IQ on it. Hint, it’s about a 4. Her political views differ then mine and that is a good thing. I know a lot of very successful people but I don’t know one that would spend their money to buy that much land to donate it to the State of Maine for public use. Not one.

        I don’t care if she is from Mass or China. She is a a landowner in Maine and that makes her a neighbor. I respect her and all she has accomplished and quite frankly I am embarrassed that we have treated her offering with such rudeness.

        • Anonymous

          Right, and you know her. I know that she has been/is in league with Restore. I know that she has a radical environmental agenda. I know that she would prefer that all of the land in northern Maine be turned into a primeval wilderness with no hunting or fishing or forestry. I know that she buys property and gates it. I know all this from reading about her and her associations. I know her property has been gated, because I’ve been by them.

          How do you know her? How do her political views differ from yours? Her agenda is radical and socialist. Anybody who opposes radical environmentalism or socialism would do well to take a stand against her.

    • Anonymous

      The BDN needs you on the front cover telling your story, because the majority of us north of Bangor agree with you. And I know everyone south of Bangor agrees with you.

    • Anonymous

      Go ahead close it off, and pay the higher rate

    • Anonymous

      Good comment. Though there are certainly people who naturally may not agree 100% with you, I believe there’s a lot of solid reasoning behind your post.

  • Anonymous

    Incredible! People want economic development but when someone hands you a free gift of great possibilities, they turn up their nose. What exactly is this all about? I think of the lovely towns outside of Yellowstone NP and the Tetons NP and I wonder why anyone would be afraid of a park.

    • Anonymous

      “Build it and they will come”

      No they won’t.
      This land is nothing special, exactly what are people going to flock to see?

      • Anonymous

        Your opinion is nothing more than that…….opinion.

        • Anonymous

          and so is the people that think it will flock millions in to the park just an opinion.

          • Anonymous

            One thing that isn’t opinion is that Northern Maine takes WAY more public funds than it brings in. The rest of Maine supports your “right” to hunt, fish and ATV at your leisure. No wonder no one up there wants change………LIFE IS GOOD! (when you don’t have to work and get govt assistance every month)

          • Anonymous

            *crickets*

        • Anonymous

          We have 58 national parks in the united states costing taxpayers about 3 Billion a year.

          Without looking them up – name off 10 of those parks.

          Most of the parks we already have get very little interest and do nothing but cost taxpayers money and those parks actually have something on them to go see.

          • Anonymous

            Again……your opinion until you provide FACTS.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry facts – I dragged the numbers of the nps website.
            They have so little interest on some they are talking about selling them off.

    • Anonymous

      Its not gonna be free, it takes away taxes, and then it causes the govt to spend more taxes to maintain, guess what the other national parks are already a tax burden enough, and most are in trouble go to PA around the Delaware Gap, and see how the roads are washed out and you have to walk a mile or two to see something, not everyone can walk that far, and they do not have the money to fix the roads, the govt is already broke. Let her try a private park and see how that goes.

  • Anonymous

    We are getting bogged down in the details. Break it down and make a decision. I go to camp to drink beer, hunt and fish (not necessarily in that order). I hunt on other people’s land because a deer has not crossed through out postage-stamp lot in about 10 years. If I had 6 or 8 townships I would be all set – probably would not need to use other people’s land – but I don’t. It is important to me that my kids are able to hunt in the future, but it’s even more important that they can at least access the land. If we can not personally afford the land, we a few options: convince our legislators to spend our tax dollars to buy some, convince some rich dude to buy it and keep it open (most who can afford it are interested in a kingdom and no access), or hope that the existing system somehow does not implode (or the existing landowner does not subdivide into a 25 acre lots, then we are all screwed). Given the pace of land transfers, I am not willing to bet my kids’ future access on the last option. Lucas St Clair appears to be from this planet and has been tasked to listen to the people who want to use their land. If we want to use it we need to convince him that we appreciate the land and will help to take good care of it. Call him – ask for access – tell him your story and why you want to hunt/fish/sled there. You have no right to be on his property. Be appreciative, because tomorrow it could be gone if we don’t convince him to keep most of it open to traditional uses, and I think we can.

    • Anonymous

      why don’t you buy a bigger piece of land? i bought a camp 50 acres for 15000 dollars in 2002. You’ve probably spent more than that on beer and butts since then

  • Anonymous

    Everything will be OK people of Northern Maine…….soon Irving will bring in heavy mining equipment and lead you to the promised land!

  • Anonymous

    Although on a much larger scale think about this would you want people all over your property dumping trash etc. I have been approached while in the woods by game wardens and asked to clean up someone else’s mess this is not my opinion of enjoyment when i need to clean up after inconsiderate people. So it is the few that will not police themselves that make it bad for everyone else. Not Ms Quimby.

  • Anonymous

    Roxy’s agenda is unchanged. She’s just going about it in a different way. I guess she figured out one get’s more with honey, than with salt. She used to be aligned with Restore (I believe she is still one of their donors). Their agenda is to restore the northern third of Maine to a primeval wilderness. Roxy’s 70,000 acre ‘donation’ is part of the agenda. It’s hard for me to believe that they’ve just given up after all of the time and money that’s been invested. She’s a radical environmentalist, although she’s seemed to have learned to be more subtle about it. I don’t think radicals give up that easily.

  • Danny Boyd

    She’s not given up. She just found an alternate route to her goal. One that doesn’t include public approval, likely just a mandate from the one in Washington DC!

    • Anonymous

      I am starting to get the idea that the boys in Washington don’t want a new park.

  • Anonymous

    Private property. It is no one else’s business what she does with it.

    • Anonymous

      I agree up until she wants tax dollars to support it.

  • Anonymous

    I hope she posts it all, develops it for hoity toity gated communities that only rich flatlanders can afford to live in – and keeps all the local hunting/fishing/camping riffraff with their snowmobiles and ATVs off of it.

    That would be better than a national park.

    Yessah

    • Anonymous

      Sure, that’s a great idea. She could develop it with her own money, sell it to rich flatlanders: They would have a good view. They would support the local economy by paying higher property taxes. Roxy would make a good return on her investment. The local ‘riffraff’ would still go to BSP. It’s a win-win situation for everybody.

      Yessah, that is a good idea you have there.

  • Anonymous

    Whoever took that video must have been laughing their tail off while shooting it. Please post the whole thing. My jaw hurts from laughter. My goodness, can’t we do better then that? Lol.

    If Roxanne walked in that room and started buying drinks on the house and giving away 20 dollar gift cards to walmart she would have all the support she needs. That video is funny BDN. Like it. LOLOLOL

    • Anonymous

      You hit the nail on the head……….free booze and Wal-Mart gift cards for all = new National Park.

  • Anonymous

    It’s her land kids- she bought and payed for it. Does anyone really think she has given up on a park? No. She will keep acquiring more and more land because people will sell it to her and at some point she will have more than enough land to make a park happen- like it or not- it’s her land to do what she pleases with.

  • Anonymous

    They said they wanted to Talk about it. Give them a chance to expose themselves and See who they champion with to design their dreams of the future with their land. They might suprise you..
    Ms. Quimby may have learned something about how the park service is run while sitting on the Board and that Since Mr Obama brought up the possibility of selling the National Parks last year with the US Treasurer, she may not want to take that chance.. . It may be a win win, or not. Only time will tell.

  • Anonymous

    It’s funny to hear conservatives talking about how they have a right to Quimby’s land and that they can tell her what to do with it as well.

    • Anonymous

      Hypocrites! What else is new with that crew?

  • Yellowdish

    This has nothing to do with Ms. Quimby, but with use of land.I want to live in Maine. I realize I could post the land, but I don’t object to hunting. I do object to getting shot on my own land. How does this all work? Will people actually ask if I want them to? You can’t really ask if the deer goes running across land you didn’t intend to hunt on. I need a forum or other resource, if somebody would give me opinion or resource. Thanks!

  • Bertha Gruntz

    ” Sheehan said that she was glad to see it go. “I think the park we have here is enough,” she said. ” ( Caption under the photo of her sitting at a bar with a glass of beer visible in the background. ) Anyone else see the humor in this?

    • Anonymous

      Yes……I think that we all know the type of “lifestyle” that they want to maintain up there.

      Come on LePage………cut those state bennys!

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne Quimby = bad

    Irving Corp = good

    LOL……..as long as the booze flows and the locals can go huntin’ and fishin’ and ATVn’ 24/7……….they don’t give a crap about anything else!

  • Anonymous

    I have to just shake my head at the people complaining that Quimby has closed parcels of her land from recreational use. When I bought my place, I faced the same complaints, “but we’ve hunted and fished there for years.” Okay, did any of you pay any part of the taxes on that land? Nope. The previous owners (who got to the point where they couldn’t keep up with the work required on the place) sure could’ve used the financial help but the complainers seem to think that they should be able to use others’ lands for free. And if you don’t like what Quimby does with her land purchases, then you can pony up the coin to outbid her.

    • Anonymous

      It always works like that. Obviously, “liberals” aren’t the only ones that demand entitlements!

    • FrankC

      I still get angry that “we” – maybe folks like Bushfan and Conmeguy and I would have liked the opportunity to also buy that land or parts thereof.

      I still don;t understand how the folks who had leases with camps and HOMES weren’t allowed to stay or have the opportunity to buy the land that they’d taken care of for years.

  • Lord Whiteman

    33.8 percent of all income in Piscataquis county comes from government checks. Yet when someone comes along and wants to create jobs they get all high and mighty.

    • Anonymous

      Citation?

      • Lord Whiteman

        Here is a link to an interactive map of government income distribution.

        http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/12/us/entitlement-map.html?ref=us

        As you can see, northern Maine is right up there with the poorest regions in the nation. I find it had to except that these people are refusing the job opportunities that a national park brings.

        • Anonymous

          That shows that on 3% of the income is “Low Income Support” while the bulk of it, ~27%, is Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

  • Anonymous

    I chuckle at some of the comments: “It has always been used for……..” well guess what? Things change. I always have had the opinion to the Katahdin region folks that you are going to get a hell of a lot closer to what you wish if you work with her. Not necessarily a national park, but you have to make some concessions. See what happens when you throw stones?…….you get stones thrown back. You wouldn’t even let anyone do a feasibility study, ( the feds decided upon, based considerably, on your guidance) which would have been an olive branch……and now, you are looking at gates and no hunting signs. Go figure? Live with it, the harvesting of the logs is now managed by who? without any of your imput? That’s just not fair…….right? Wrong!

  • Anonymous

    Roxanne:

    You can do whatever your little hate-filled micro heart wishes with your land, other than turn it into a national park

    After what you did up here, Northern Maine is not about to forgive the lies, the name calling, the blackmailing and the threats

    The voters and elected officials have said no, many times,,, so you can take your “special friendship” with Obama and go back to New York

  • Anonymous

    If we are all lucky they will sell it all and go somewhere else to save the planet.

  • Anonymous

    “Ambejesus Lake” really BDN?

    • David Gregg

      Yeah you didn’t hear? This is the lake that you can “am be Jesus” and walk on water.

      BDN- it’s Ambajejus Lake. Two seconds with google maps would’ve helped ya out.

  • David Gregg

    Yeah i heard she might try and keep the moose and deer out next year.

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