Comments for: Angry about woman, Jovan Belcher punched out window, gashed hand in 2006 UMaine incident

Posted Dec. 03, 2012, at 4:32 p.m.
Last modified Dec. 05, 2012, at 3:39 p.m.

ORONO | Police reports released Monday by the University of Maine show Jovan Belcher had a history of conflict in dealing with women. Belcher, 25, made national headlines Saturday when the Kansas City Chiefs linebacker fatally shot his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, then later committed suicide with a handgun in …

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  • Anonymous

    who cares. one has nothing to do with the other. to keep talking about it only continues to drag the real victims through unnecessary pain.

    • Anonymous

      You are, indeed, correct. Nothing fixes the hurt.

  • Superuser23

    The BDN just can’t get enough about posting repeated articles about this murderer. Got to go publish about 6 different stories constant on the front page all weekend long and now you got to go publish something about an incident that occurred in 2006, and all he did was punch a window (instead of a woman that he was mad at) and suffered a cut on his hand and yet no charges were filed.

    Fools I tell ya, grasping for straws to get anything over a story of someone who attended UMaine and went on to the NFL then kills a woman and then himself…wow, way to go BDN. What’s next, what he had to eat at UMaine followed by if it was the same thing he last eat before he died?

    Somewhere another dead horse is being beaten.

    Plenty of other news out there, go find it!

    • jerrymyx

      in defense of the BDN, would you be saying the same thing, if they were repeatedly publishing a story about WINNING! I think NOT!! It is their job, and just perhaps trying to teach and educate!! for CHANGE in the Domestic violence World that seems to surround a lot of athletics these days…

      • Superuser23

        You don’t need “Several articles” over the course of the weekend to attempt to educate on something if anything. If the BDN is attempting to educate anything they can certainly get all the facts and write a story about it then. Winning has nothing to do with domestic violence so your comparison does not hold much weight in this matter. People including readers and those who personally know the murderer and victims don’t need to see constant front page stories over the matter. How many murderers get front page recognition over an entire weekend in several articles? Exactly, none. What makes this so special? If you want to educate on domestic violence, if you feel this is the case or educate on anything, write one story with some examples post it in the appropriate place in the site and call it a day

  • Anonymous

    who cares he is dead let him and the rest of us rest in peace. This is not news it is plain sad and to think the BDN would keep digging up info to hype it annoys me and probably a lot of other people.

    • Anonymous

      As sad as it is, it’s still news, unfortunately. It’s a journalist’s job to dig deep and he is just doing his job. Either way it’s a very sad story.

    • Anonymous

      it will be news when the gun control becomes a major issue.it was left alone in the first admin. but we will hear the siren call for gun control after the over advertising of tragic stories like this

      • Anonymous

        Maybe Bob Costas can support window control next time he spouts off about something he has no clue about.

      • Anonymous

        so, because of gun control, he punched out a window?
        please

        • Anonymous

          follow the thread properly,we will slow down if you need to catch up.

      • Anonymous

        “Over advertising”? the City of New York was ecstatic and somewhat astounded, and baffled as to why there were no murders in the city on ONE DAY last week. Is that “over advertising”? Let me ask you, this…..If a firearm offense had intruded on your family would you be saying something about it.? or would it be “over advertising?”

        • Anonymous

          My family owns plenty of firearms and if someone introduced one on us, they would be introduced to ours! The people that commit these crimes will always have a way to illegally obtain guns, people who want to kill a spouse can always find a different way to kill them. The guns don’t kill people! People kill People!

      • Anonymous

        Give it up. Guns don’t kill people, people do. He could have beat her to death with the gun….or a baseball bat. Should we outlaw them too?

      • Anonymous

        I get what you mean, the media plays up these issues so one sidedly!

        They need to look at all DM deaths… like Gun Control would have helped the Reed woman in Alton? She was stabbed to death mutliple times. GUNS ARE NOT THE ISSUE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS!

    • bogcook

      What would be news in your opinion????

  • Anonymous

    MAAV is a program that some athletes join to pick up girls. When you are an athlete of 6ft 2 in build, uhh let’s see, from LONG ISLAND NY and look as intimidating as a black panther in the jungle to be able to say to your date “I am a proud member of MAAV” the woman feels a little more at ease. Well as my Sunday school teacher used to say, “watch out for wolves in sheep’s clothing”.

  • Anonymous

    Violence is just a mans issue? Really! Well i guess that fits in the new society that believes George bush caused everything by himself.vilify the action and do not include the cause.

    • Anonymous

      For all those people that think GWB did it all by himself sure give him more credit then I do and I know and love the man. Do all the libs know that they label this man a real mastermind when they blame him for all they allege he did while in the oval office. They are calling him a genius without even knowing it.

      • I agree with you about GWB, these people don’t watch the news. Iraq is helping Syria move…get this, WMD, for Asaad regime. Dana Perino is correct, time is telling the truth.

        Although I dont agree with Asaad, or the genocide, the brotherhood scheme is worse. Total middle east collapse. Christians on 3 continents are screwed. Merry Christmas.

        • Anonymous

          Amen.

    • FrankC

      Well its a liberal media driven society that promotes the female abused meme;

      Sec of State – female

      Head of homeland Security – female

      Head of HHS – female (actually a dictator re: anything that smacks of health)

      Superior Courts Judges – 2 nincompoops

      and more ?? Is it because they can be controlled? Or have they

      • Anonymous

        You come across as someone who has real issues with women. The problem seems to be on your end in that regard, not with the female population!

        • FrankC

          LOL – just the opposite in person – too much a renaissance type guy ..

          However, in questioning what’s going on with the management and direction of these agencies, you have to be blind not to see this and wonder how come. Are these the best folks available or the easiest influenced and controlled. Or is it something else?

          • Anonymous

            Nothing wrong with being a renaissance type guy.
            As for the management , control, direction,etc. of these agencies…..one can wonder. I have not been involved with any agency such as these and so am far from an authority on what goes on in them. We are not privy to the inner workings. Something tells me , though, that many would find much to question if they saw more of what goes on.
            The football player Jovan who killed his girlfriend and then himself may have had anger issues from the start. Perhaps he was fine till things (relationships, etc.)did not go his way. This is only speculation. Then on top of that, add the medications, drinking and possibly brain injuries….so, it could be a combination of things to partly explain how this man went so wrong. Speculation.

          • FrankC

            Ok – back on topic .. LOL

            In order to make it in the pro’s – any pro sport – indicates the person has a level of physical prowess, strength, desire, & focus that most of us can’t comprehend. The jump from high school to college to the pro’s is an order of magnitude each time. Football can be graceful and violent at the same time.

            nite

  • Guest

    ““MAAV is an effort to involve men so that we can begin to understand
    that violence is very much a ‘man’s issue,’” the statement said.”

    Women are not at all capable of violence.

    • Anonymous

      Women are very capable of violence however most domestic violence assaults are man on woman.

      • Guest

        Most REPORTED assaults…

        • Anonymous

          Probably because the guys can inflict more damage than the gals.

        • Anonymous

          If men want to stop being unseen victims, perhaps they should start reporting. But I still don’t buy it that it’s equally men and women.

      • Henderson bobby

        Women hit men far more than men hit women.

        • Anonymous

          Evidence please.

          • Henderson bobby

            I am not saying women beat men up as bad but I have been hit by several women . Its the way society looks at it.

          • Anonymous

            Your personal experience is not a measurement for the rest of the world however. If you find yourself often hit you might consider a new dating pool or check your own behavior, one or both may lead you to the answer. Women are capable of violence and are increasingly committing domestic violence. And yet, traditionally it has been the male. It makes sense to influence the underlying attitudes so they are not further transmitted today.

          • Henderson bobby

            Traditionally it is the male who is charged .If a woman slaps a man usually nothing happens . If a man slaps a woman it is a different story . Men do not tend to report such cases . Yes men do kill more women than women kill men ,

          • Anonymous

            BS. You see plenty of reports of women being arrested these days. Maybe not in the past, but now you do. Besides, more men commit violence acts on women than women do on men so we dont’ hear about it as often.

          • Anonymous

            Not to be rude, but perhaps you’ve chosen the wrong women. I’ve never hit anyone, and to my knowledge none of my friends have. I have also never been hit myself. DV is still primarily a problem with men. That’s not a sexist statement, but fact.

          • Henderson bobby

            Call a woman a ho and see what happens . call a man a ho and see what happens. I rest my case. I have no facts i can back this up with but many more times I have saw women hit men than men hit women .

          • Anonymous

            ” I rest my case.” Sad to say, Henderson Bobby, but your career as a member of the legal profession seems destined to be very short-lived!

          • Anonymous

            I bet you never said or did anything to disrespect a woman, they just pick on you?

        • Guest

          While I doubt your assertion, certainly men have more of an impact when they do assault women.

          • Henderson bobby

            I agree .

        • Anonymous

          Statistics, again, please?

    • Dope Boy

      Please don’t go there. This kid was emotionally unstable. We ted to view certain professions under the guise of emotionally stable.

      Dysfunctional upbringing with no stabilizing role models in the home.

      Classic synoptic. Second year study in sociologically. The lesson after that is sow your oats before you attempt to play house. He found out much to late his girl-friend was not all that into him, and because of his emotional immaturity having never learn anger management he resorted to violence or a ghetto mentality if you like.

      • Henderson bobby

        I wonder just how high his SAT scores were . Should some of these players even be in college? If you have some player with 4 year degrees who read and do math at middle school level what is the point of college?

        • Dope Boy

          You nailed it ! After four years most still can only read and comprehend at a 6th grade level.

          But college sports is the ‘money maker’ especially in the Big Ten schools. It draws the big bucks from the alumni.
          But even in smaller programs like USM it put’s the school on the radar for admissions. Keeps that ‘gravy train’ rolling.

          Higher education in America is now a business.

          • Henderson bobby

            Well the indoctrination they tell people is college is about education . We all know it is more about money . Umaine football spent like $700k more than it brought in. In Psy 101 I was taught IQ tends to reflect Grades and tends to stay a constant . Funny my IQ was in the 70s . do not claim i am smart but in some areas I am well above average in other areas I am well below average. . I have no Idea what My IQ is but I did finish High school in the top 10 of my class . Granted I did not take AP courses but I also never brought a book home . Most college classes are more about reading comprehension skills and memorization than thinking .

          • Dope Boy

            ‘Critical Thinking’ is lacking in today’s America. And don’t ever feel bad about yourself. What having that degree does is open more doors in the working environment. Sadly to say in today’s America we have turn every job up to and even in some cases a burger flipper needing a college degree.

            Again, higher education is not about learning anymore, it’s how much you think you can earn after and those in the field of higher education pimp far fetched promises of jobs that don’t and never will exists.

            Sadly it has hurt those who did not go to college even more then those who bought into the hype. The days of buying a home and raising a family proper in this country with less then a high school diploma are long gone.

            And those who still believe in that ‘so called American Dream are doing just that, dreaming. It died some 30 years ago.

          • Henderson bobby

            I do Ok . I only took a few “college” classes . I would say its a good thing I did not get my degree when I look at the fact that between 60 an 70% of people with a 2 year degree fail thier state license exam in my field on thier first try. I passed mine first try. I guess I just have one of those MBTI types that question authority . Proper grammer spell etc . Is valued much more than free thinking . I may be wrong more than I am right but at least I know it. Seems like the more educated people are the better able they are to defend thier what they believe even when they are wrong.

          • Anonymous

            “You nailed it ! After four years most still can only read and comprehend at a 6th grade level.” And you have statistics to back up this flimsy assertion, too? I know of a UMaine grad, excellent athlete, very high GPA in pre-med who is now a top-notch orthopedic surgeon. There’s an excellent example — you’ll need at least 5-10 to support your use of “most” …

          • FrankC

            No kidding, that’s great. What sport, position, pray tell. And was he a starter on the football, basketball or hockey team? Was he on a sport scholarship?

        • Anonymous

          The tax payers payed for this boys college…

        • Anonymous

          “. . . what is the point of college?”

          Good question. After reading the article, I understand that college is not only a venue for serious academic study, but also a place for low IQ types to take soft courses like “Male Athletes Against Violence”.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe he was having a hard time adjusting to the hetero lifestyle. Too much pressure and he exploded.

        • Dope Boy

          It was a ‘mentality’ of how he viewed woman. (I’ll stop now before I really open up the can of worms)
          The key is for woman to spot it early and run like hell.

          Never a good mix to have control issues and emotional immaturity/destabilization. We get convince that because one is in a profession of this that or the other they have it together.

    • bogcook

      Do you live on this planet???

  • Anonymous

    Bottom feeder.you disgust me at your lack of respect for family members as to bring up such a trivial matter so you could have an article posted.I hope everyone that see’s this complains to BDN.Hey Bangor Daily News is this who you really want writing articles for your paper,if so I’ll never buy another paper from you.

    • Superuser23

      Have you not caught on to the multiple articles over the weekend on this posted on the front page? Remember that everytime you renew your subscription, buy the paper at the store, or post an ad, your revenue is supporting this type of journalism

  • Henderson bobby

    The big question is why no charges were filed. Seems to me if you punch out a window that is domestic violence At the very least it was underage drinking..Funny how as much as they drink before the age of 21 very few Umaine students are charged . If they can toss a ball all the better.

    • Anonymous

      ..and now you’ve answered everyone else’s question about why this is news… Its not news so we can wring our hands over the past.. its news so we can learn from it and maybe just ONE person will get help for their problems instead of killing someone. That would make it all worthwhile. I just don’t get all the anti-BDN blathering here. If you all hate the BDN so much why are you reading it.. much less posting in the forums. Get a life.

      • Henderson bobby

        I am not blaming or hate the BDN . I do have issues with the system we have in society . Lets say kid gets out of HS. works at Burger King gets caught drinking he is charged . Now 100s drink at Umaine . More people from Umane are rushed to the hospital for alcohol poisoning than are charge with under age drinking. Just seems like a double standard .

        • Anonymous

          “More people from Umane are rushed to the hospital for alcohol poisoning than are charge with under age drinking.” Statistics to support this claim, please?

      • Anonymous

        It seems the ones who are most bothered by articles about gay marriage and other issues that they feel the BDN covers too frequently , are the very ones who read them and comment on them the most!

    • Domestic violence…against a window?

  • Anonymous

    Why call attention to UMO? So he showed signs of rage and self destruction years ago. Did his friends and family give his girlfriend a heads up about this guy? Sad, but gone.

  • Bangahrang

    Why are we even giving any news time to this guy? Seriously. If you want to do something constructive, make sure the baby is taken care of, this is fluff news for hype!

  • Anonymous

    just another overpaid crybaby playing a kids game,drop it already.sick of hearing and reading about him.

  • Bill Cat

    As for the article, lets have a big “SO WHAT?” Scrabbling hard for a sensational headline and failed badly from the looks of it — and by all means get some talking heads in on it to claim it might have signified or indicated or been a sign of… Couldn’t possibly be as simple as an over-stressed college kid punching a window — not dramatic enough. AAARRRGGGHHH! The guy is dead and buried and so, sadly, are his wife and child — time to let it rest. Don’t need one-on-one interviews with all his former classmate, teachers or the janitor, thanks.

  • westshores

    How many young men have caused damage at a University of Maine campus over the years? I’m one of them, and I’ve never come close to harming a women.My “dorm mates” and I used to wait for our damage bills to arrive shortly after our grades came. I’m not sure that this episode his freshmen year can or cannot be linked to this tragedy. Perhaps this terrible event will put more focus on the relationship between sports/brain injury and violence against women.

  • Anonymous

    Concussion

  • Anonymous

    sounds like a little more than the no prior record story we heard earlier. if i punched out a window at my home during an argument with my wife i would have been arrested for DV. but i do not play football

  • Anonymous

    He failed the final exam

  • Anonymous

    Where is westshores and why isn’t he/she here to chastise you people for trashing this poor man?

  • Sectar114

    wgas wgaf

  • Anonymous

    Move on BDN. Story is over. Report on some relevent real news. Just like BDN to beat a dead horse.

  • nostrajimus

    what about his father, john Belcher? How come no mention of him?

  • Anonymous

    This is a morally reprehensible attempt at garnering a few more clicks and aggregate links for the BDN website. For shame…

  • Thanks Costas, for inserting you and NBC into this…you are a reckless person, and NBC is reckless, just as they were int he Trayvon Martin mess.

    Unbelievable.

  • Anonymous

    In the two incidents he didn’t abuse anyone. He broke a window.but the report doesn’t say that the girl that he was upset about was even present. The report also didn’t mention that she had been threatened in any way. Jovan had a bad cut from punching a window. In the second incident they may have been arguing but it was because SHE WOULDN”T LEAVE HIS DORM. I think the headline is misleading. I’m not familiar with Jovan. He graduated with a degree in 3 1/2 years. No, he wasn’t in the engineering school but he graduated in (under) four years, which places him in a small proportion of students who begin at UMaine. He made it to the NFL, which demonstrates that he was an elite athlete with impressive determination. Sadly, he killed himself, and worse another person, and left his son without a parent. This, in the end, makes whatever accomplishments he had seem petty and insignificant.

  • Anonymous

    But..but…Bob Costas says a gun jumped up off the table and killed them.

  • nostrajimus

    Actually I remember this incident because he was suspended by Cozzy for it. Yeah right ;)

  • Anonymous

    This guy had a lot of Anger Issues as well as Domestic Violence issues. Finally Murder. Another OJ in the making.

  • Wadine Toliaferro

    When I read what Jovan’s degree is in, I paused. Child Development and Family Relations? A man that killed the mother of his newborn baby, then himself? Child Development and Family Relations. This young man was trying to find answers for about his family, about his development. I think if reporters dig deep enough they will find that Jovan was raised in a violent environment.

    • Anonymous

      Well he HAD to pick SOMETHING so that they could hire someone to do his homework for him while he ran around in tights throwing a ball.

  • northernmaine

    TNB

  • Anonymous

    In football it’s called piling on, in journalism it’s called sensationalism. That’s something the Bangor Daily News is great at.

    • Anonymous

      Especially if you operate a kissing booth. Lol. Miss the wigs burgers.

  • Anonymous

    guns, knives, axes, baseball bats, hands, automobiles…..doesn’t matter.
    this overgrown punk is a cold hearted murderer and I for one feel no remorse for him.
    Feel for the innocent person he murdered.

  • Anonymous

    I feel great sorrow for the young woman who was murder by this lowlife..Now a little child has too grow up without a mother.Domestic violence laws must change Now!!! first time one year, second time five years if there’s a third time then that should be life.

  • Anonymous

    Even now, news reports, players, fans…many are portraying him as some sort of hero and excusing his behavior as “immature” or “bad decisions”. Maybe one incident could be “excused” as such, but altogether these incidents show a violent abuser who was let off and excused repeatedly because he played football. Participating in some of the organizations that he did appear to be a cover for his real self. I think U Maine passed up an opportunity to intervene and gave him a pass to continue. Makes you wonder about the importance of sports to officials in the program when it clearly came out on top over the path this man was taking. They excused and closed their eyes to it all. Even U Maine’s statement mentions Jovan first with sympathies. They just don’t get it and probably never will as long as the almighty $$$ is involved. The victims here are Kasandra, their daughter and their families.

  • Anonymous

    A for credit class called – Male Athletes Against Violence…..one of many “for credit” classes invented so these jocks can accumulate enough credits to graduate.

  • BSME-72

    I am VERY ASHAMED of Orono!!! I have never understood the administration’s mentality to develop a major football program at Orono. I cannot believe the cash benefit that Orono receives is worth the negative publicity that comes with this sort of trash. THIS IS THE REASON THAT I WILL NEVER CONTRIBUTE CASH TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MAINE. I can NEVER thank Orono enough for my education, which is what the administration should re-focus on.

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