Comments for: Carlson abuse case a reminder that it takes a village

Posted Dec. 02, 2012, at 4:36 p.m.

More than one year has passed since the Rev. Robert Carlson jumped to his death off the Penobscot Narrows Bridge, after he learned that police were investigating his alleged sexual abuse of multiple children. Since then, some organizations have changed their policies to try to catch perpetrators of child abuse. …

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  • Anonymous

    Why on earth does this paper continue to refer to this guy as “Rev. Carlson”. His educational and professional background appear to have been nothing more than lies. Every time you refer to him as Reverend, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, you simply remind us of the way that he was able to get away with his lies for so long. People covered for him. Just like you are doing.

    • The Great White Hope

      Pedo Bob is more like it.

    • Anonymous

      For the same reasons that the world calls Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger “Pope”. Using your criteria .. there would be no Popes.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe people ought to start making up serious allegations against you personally if you feel the Pope deserves condemnation. After all, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. With that, none of the allegations of impropriety or coverup directed at the Pope so far have been substantiated.

        • Anonymous

          This leering old villain in a frock and former head of the Inquisition should be arrested the moment he dares to set foot outside his tinpot fiefdom of the Vatican, and he should be tried in an appropriate civil – not ecclesiastical – court. Sadly, we all know our governments will be too craven to do it. Ratzinger will remain in charge of the whole rotten edifice – the whole profiteering, woman-fearing, guilt-gorging, truth-hating, child-raping institution – while it tumbles, amid a stench of incense and a rain of tourist-kitsch sacred hearts and preposterously crowned virgins, about his ears.

          • How about a visual to help you make your point…

            http://wegoats.com/files/pope-benedict-palpatine.jpg.jpeg

          • Anonymous

            I’ll give you credit for this reply, even a thumbs up for your humor. Both photos bear remarkable resemblance to each other. :) Whoever came up with that must have searched a long time!

    • He lived as a Reverend for most of his life. That he was a fraud, doesn’t diminish the fact he was inside the church, a leader of the church and no doubt covered for by the church. The church is complicit.

      • Anonymous

        “The reverend” means “the good.” Carlson was not good. It is appalling the editors continue to give him this undeserved accolade.

        • Anonymous

          Matri meaning “mother” is the root of the word matrimony=marriage. That does not stop people from saying gay marriage. People are completely ignorant of the language. Bob’s name should never be preceded by “reverend’.

          • Anonymous

            I’m not trying to take issue with you here because I too who happened to know him feel he (Bob Carlson) was not worthy of the title “Reverend”. In the writer’s defense, however, Bob Carlson was known as Reverend Bob Carlson in his community. The use of that name only serves to identify who he was: a church leader, albeit a very poor one.

      • Anonymous

        The title Reverend implies that he has had sufficient education and professional experience to be eligible for Ordination. We have no idea where he was educated, or even if he was educated. He appears to have lied about his entire background and the whole thing appears to be a sham.

        This is no different that someone who posed as an MD, without ever having gone to medical school, being referred to as Doctor. It’s “Carlson”, nothing more.

        • Anonymous

          Actually Al Sharpton has been called “reverend ever since he began his career as a street preacher at age 12.

          Your thesis that the title Reverend is akin to the title Doctor is incorrect. No education or licensing process needed to become “Reverend”

      • Anonymous

        You say the church was “complicit”. Not that I disagree, but who was “the church”? Most Protestant churches I know of do not take their cue from a hierarchy. In fact in many Protestant churches there is not even a hierarchy or, at least, not an effective one. Most Protestant churches are partially autonomous if not completely so. So who was “the church” when the abuse was going on?

        Also, what do you mean by the use of the term “complicit”. Did church members aid and abet, or were they simply not aware of signs of ongoing abuse they did not report?

        My point here is that before placing blame on anyone or any entity about wrong doing we need to use caution.

        • Numerous people covered for this predator for 40 years or more. The church, any church, is a perfect place for a pedophile to hide. I think that’s become painfully obvious over the years.

          • Anonymous

            You said, “numerous people covered for this predator for 40 years or more”. Can you be more specific. How many is “numerous”? Two? three? or 100? Also, where did you get your information? You say the church was “a perfect place for a pedophile to hide. I think that’s become painfully obvious over the years”. I don’t know about you but I knew Bob Carlson personally. I had no idea he was a pedophile. Please tell me, how do you know many members of his church knew he was a pedophile? I suspect you really don’t know but I’ll give the the benefit of the doubt by giving you the opportunity to show me otherwise.

          • Honestly? I knew he was a pedophile when I heard he had jumped off the narrows bridge to his death. I said to myself, ‘ Ah, an old preacher jumped off a bridge? Probably a kiddie diddler.’ And, I was right!

            Lets look at the obvious here, shall we? This man was abusing children, sexually,for decades! We now know there were concerns brought 30 years ago, relating to Reverend Bob’s conduct with children. We also now know, that those concerns were ignored, and just went away, allowing Carlson to molest, who knows how many more children.

            We also know that Reverend Bob Carlson’s close friend, sheriff Glenn Ross went to Carlson and told him he was under investigation! Why? What possible, legitimate reason is there that a prominent law enforcement officer would tell a prominent clergy member he was being investigated for child molestation?

            IDK. I don’t understand it. I don’t understand why anyone would cover for this sicko. But, obviously plenty of people did, including sheriff Glenn Ross.

            See, this is all just par for the course if you ask me. Pedophile preachers and corrupt cops. Sickeningly predictable.

            That’s one of the many reasons, I’m a proud Atheist.

          • Anonymous

            So you know Carlson was a pedophile the moment you heard he jumped off the bridge. How interesting? Why did you not report your suspicion then? Of course you didn’t because it didn’t occur to you until it was too late to prevent any further abuse by the minister. At the same time you also found out other information about this person through your readings in the newspaper or some other source that helped you to arrive at your suspicion. After all, not everyone who jumps off a bridge is a child molester. But guess what? You weren’t the only one who suspected the minister of abuse when his suicide was made public. Nearly the entire world of BDN readers probably suspected too? So, I have no reason to think you hold any special powers of discernment the rest of us humans don’t possess. In the event however you still believe to have a special power to single out child sex abusers, you would be remiss for the sake of humanity if you did not offer your services to law enforcement agencies.

            It has been a while since I read the followup reports concerning Carlson’s death and suspicion concerning him. So I’ll take your information concerning the sheriff’s action for granted. But what was the sheriff’s reason for informing Carlson of the investigation concerning him?

            I know someone who was under investigation for a year and a half for some alleged crime he did not commit. This person was “duly” notified shortly after the investigation was opened. If you ask me why he was informed, I can’t really tell you with any certainty. Maybe it was department policy. Frankly I have no idea except for the fact that he was compelled not to speak to anyone who could possibly be a witness to the suspected crime. Could not this have been the case with Carlson where the sheriff for fear Carlson would find out about the investigation on his own used the occasion to advise him not to interfere with the investigation?

            Finally, “pedophile preachers and corrupt cops”, you say? Why not “pedophile iron workers and corrupt child protective workers”? Why not “pedophile teachers and corrupt school administrators”? Why not (should I say it?)… atheists? My point is this: why are you singling out preachers and cops? Are they all corrupt? Such thinking bothers me, specially when it comes from a professed atheist.

          • Blah, blah, blah… You’re God, done let you down, huh?

            Umm, if I was a close personal friend with Bob Carson like you, and sheriff Glenn Ross, I’d be making lame excuses too.

            Important, religious, people, and high ranking law enforcement officers hid their buddie’s moletation of children by Reverend Bob Carlson for decades… congratulations, sickos

          • Anonymous

            I said I knew Carlson personally, that’s all. You assumed however I was a close friend of Carlson like you seem to assume a lot of other things. Also, I have not made any excuses for Carlson’s behavior.

            Since you don’t seem to have any qualms about treating me with disdain, I now must wonder aloud if you’re not a “sicko” yourself. Hey, in case you are wondering, I didn’t bring this up. You did. If you want to be respectful with me, I’ll treat you likewise and even offer you an olive branch. But if you choose to carry on with a vendetta, don’t expect me to be nice. I happened to be a Christian. Note though, I’m not a doormat. I don’t take abuse from anyone just as I don’t expect others to take abuse. With that I hope you understand me clearly.

          • Oh, I’m sick… Because I think your God is a disgusting joke. Because I know your God is an f-in joke. A god who protects child molesters is in-defensible, unless you’re a true believer.

          • Anonymous

            Some people are either very slow learners or so puffed up with pride that they can’t seem to change direction for the better. As a result they remain mired in their own bitterness. In that state of mind your world will always be upside down.

          • Get a blog, or get a clue… Which ever comes first, k? Thx…

    • Anonymous

      Go, Go Bangorian. There are still dozens of these pedophiles in the Catholic Church that have not yet been exposed.

      • Anonymous

        Sounds to me like you are in the business of offending Catholics. Your comment is completely self-serving and uncalled for. Besides, if there were any reasonable grounds for your assertion, I’d agree with it as far as its content is concerned. But I can’t even do so. Unlike most institutions the Church has come a long way in the past decade or so to stem abuse within its confines. Maybe you should look elsewhere in order to be relevant.

        • The Church still denies abuse, and gives abusers sainthood. Thomas More was made patron saint of politicians in the decade of abuse stemming you refer to, and he tortured and killed tens of thousands for daring to commit the crime of owning a Bible written in English. If death and torture is what it takes to make the Pope grant sainthood, I wonder when Sadam and Bin Laden will be sainted?

          • Anonymous

            Thomas More was a just and noble man who died because he would not deny his Catholic faith. He was a faithful servant of the King, who when given no alternative chose to place God ahead of man. He did not torture and kill thousands of people for daring to own a bible. As often as is the case, you are heavy on allegations but light on credible sources for your information.

          • Funny, when Stephen Fry said it at the Intelligence Squared debate, Archbishop of Abuja, John Onaiyekan could not deny Thomas More’s crimes, but then again history books not written under the control of the Church are dangerous things for the Church.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLtuD2CKY-U

        • And it seems like you’re in the business of defending Catholics, huh?

      • Anonymous

        There are most likely dozens of these pedophiles in your neighborhood, where you work…..in other words, they are everywhere. Slapped on the wrist & let out into the community. Laws must be changed & most of all, parents, caregivers & guardians of children must be aware of the dangers. If ANY adult takes an unusual interest in a young child, wants to spend time with them, be very suspicious, regardless of what capacity they are in, be it coach, teacher or neighbor.

    • Anonymous

      It takes a village? What a stupid idea in the first place. Keep your kids away from these community know it alls and they will be safer.

      • Anonymous

        We often find, after the fact, “it takes a village” to keep it covered up. Take a look at the national Boy Scouts pedo list.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly.Also,stop using “alleged sexual abuse of multiple children”. We now KNOW it to be FACT!

  • Anonymous

    THERE you go again… !!
    REVEREND ??
    No way, falsehoods abound.
    Unfortunately by people in positions of responsibility.
    Come on , BDN , break the cycle of lies.
    He wasn’t a reverend and shouldn’t be revered.

    • Anonymous

      No, it’s not “lies” or a “cycle of lies”. The BDN is obviously not saying Mr. Carlson was reverend. The reference to his title is only to identify who he was: an abusive person who held the title “Reverend”, however ignobly.

      That said, I would not get too hung up on this paper’s use (or misuse) of semantics. After all, this paper needs to be commended for attempting to make this story of abuse known and well-known in order to educate the public and help diffuse an “expansive” culture “where many people keep quiet even when they have reason to suspect someone of wrongdoing.” (These words in parentheses are not mine, but this newspaper’s.)

  • Anonymous

    If you cannot or will not stop calling him”REV”. at the very least stop showing his picture.The looks of him makes me sick.

    • Anonymous

      Oh and by the way,this is not news,all this is,is rubbing salt in old wounds.Let him go,he jumped to his death because he is a coward.

  • Anonymous

    OMG this beasts photo is in the paper again!!? :/ I am going to hurl. (He is NOT a REV. by the way. )

  • Anonymous

    It is deplorable that this newspaper keeps referring to the fraud Carlson as a reverend. It pays a real disrespect to those who truly are ministers, priests,etc.
    Also, good that places such as Penobscot Healthcare are taking some more preventative steps (if that is even true.) But I don’t think many are overly hopeful that anyone would step up and report their suspicions even now. People don’t want to get involved. I know of someone who, in his job, is a mandated reporter. He says he reported several suspicions about people (not Carlson) several times and that the Dept of Health and Human Services did nothing.

    • The church, no doubt covered up his predatory behavior and they shouldn’t get a pass for it.

      • Anonymous

        “The issue (of sexual abuse) is clearly larger than organization policies. The problem is a more expansive, cultural one where many people keep quiet even when they have reason to suspect someone of wrongdoing. The issue is also rooted in fear. Informing the Maine Department of Health and Human Services of suspected abuse is a difficult task for anyone”, according to the writer of the above article.

        How come the Church should not get a pass for covering up sex abuse when apparently it’s okay to give everybody else a pass? At least the Church in its past handling of sex abuse did try to do something about it. Furthermore, to date, more than any other institution, the Church has taken steps to stem abuse, and it has been very successful so far.

        • LOL Are we talking about the same Catholic Church that almost lost their Diplomatic Immunity in Ireland because the priests of Ireland voted to become mandatory reporters and the Holy See said that was against doctrine and ordered the priests not to report to law enforcement? They have yet to apologize for multiple atrocities over multiple centuries, and they still admit no wrongdoing in most abuse cases. If the last Pope weren’t dead he should be rotting in a cell somewhere with a sentence 10 times worse than Penn State’s headcoach. He hid and protected pedophiles, The new Pope, whom I refer to as Pope Palpatine, has largely ignored it, he is too busy spreading lies in Africa. According to him condoms increase the chances of getting AIDS. The information age will and should be the ruination of the Catholic Church. Hopefully the good people of the church, like the nuns that the Pope says have gone rogue, will start a new church based on love, not based on power which the current church has used as its foundation.

          • Anonymous

            You are so far off the path I don’t know what to say except that Pope John Paul II was a very noble man who God is very pleased with. Before you post anything you should check your facts out and not merely repeat what some unnamed source alleges.

          • See above link to Intelligence Squared debate, again the Archbishop cannot deny it, because it is true.

            Here is what the Catholic Church thinks about mandatory reporting…

            http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/priests-must-break-confessional-seal-irish-government-introduces-anticipate

          • Anonymous

            If this is the best support for your argument you can come up with, it would be laughable if you weren’t just kidding. Now, in all fairness I’ll tell you why.

            The suggestion that priests be legally forced to break the seal of confession is against all reason. If a penitent knows a priest will violate his oath, he simply will not confess his sins to the priest. So what is gained enacting a law compelling priests to break the seal of confession? The answer is “nothing”. I doubt however such a foolish law will be passed in Ireland sometime in the near future. Not only would such a law not be beneficial in stemming child sex abuse but it would put priests under enormous pressure to break a seal of confession for sins other than child sex abuse. Finally, if a pedophile took a risk confessing, knowing that the confessor was obligated to report what he heard to authorities, the priest would have no choice but to break this unjust law and suffer the consequences. Believe me, the Church is no stranger to persecution. Thousands upon thousands of Christians throughout history – beginning in the first century until this day and age – have been made to suffer and die for their beliefs. Under the Stalin regime tens of millions were killed outright or made to suffer a slow and painful death in a Siberian camps on account of their Christianity. At a monastery in St. Petersburg, Russia members of a religious order, priests and brothers alike, were literally impaled to the church doors like Christ was on the cross to show what could and would happen to anyone who dared to worship in public and not support the atheistic regime.

            If a law compelling priests to break the seal of confession ever passes in Ireland, democracy in Ireland will languish and even possibly die. What good could ever come about that law for the sake of every freedom loving Irish citizen?

          • You are amazingly misinformed. ALL confidentiality is broken when abuse is learned about. Doctor/patient: out the window in cases of abuse. Psychologist/client: gone as soon as abuse is discussed.Priests are no different, if they want to counsel, they should be required to follow the same mandatory reporting laws as everyone else. The Catholic Church lives under the protection of the Constitutions right of freedom of religion, without it, it would be an illegal organization just based on the fact it discriminates against women. They can never hold “management” positions.

            As far as whether or not someone will say something in confession, nothing is being done now, so if the law passes and priests are required to report, and one single pedophile says something, and one single child is helped, the law is completely worth it. No children are being helped by their priests now. The priests themselves should be begging forgiveness for not doing anything when they hear about abuse in confession. People know attorney/client and doctor/patient gets violated when crimes and abuse are confessed to, yet they still tell their lawyers and doctors about it. Your argument is very weak and is harmful to the children being abused.

            And please stop with the Christian persecution. That’s like Freddy Krueger or Jason Voorhees whining about a paper cut.

          • Anonymous

            You still haven’t explain to me how forcing priests to break the seal of confession will help stem child abuse. You see, some haters of the Church believe that if they can succeed in changing the Church’s belief about confession, the Church will collapse from within. And they are right as far as that goes. The Church would indeed collapse. The problem is that it will never happen. It’s been tried before for century after century all with failure. The attempt to change the Church’s mind about breaking the seal of confession is really an attempt to destroy the Church. The child sex scandal is just a pretext.

          • Not just child abuse, but all abuse. If a father confesses to a priest he beats his wife and child, and the priest is required by law, like all other counselors, to report it, the father gets charged, tried, and convicted if applicable. At the least the wife and child can get a protection order. Therefore, the wife and child are no longer being abused. That is how breaking confidentiality will stem abuse. The Supreme Court has ruled that when counselor’s hear credible reports from clients of harm to others, or planned harm to others, they are legally bound to report it to authorities. Your church should not be any different than any other counselor. Just like your Church is protected by the Freedom of Religion, UNTIL that protection causes harm to others. It is why judges are allowed to force parents whose church doesn’t “believe” in medical science to take their children to hospitals. If they don’t the State takes custody of the child. Personal beliefs are fine, right up until they cause harm, to someone else.

          • Anonymous

            Thank you for being civil.

            I agree with much of what you had to say. Yet I have two questions for you. One, you still haven’t told me how forcing priests by legal means to break the seal of confession will help stem child abuse. After all, if a child abuser knows priests are legally bound to tell his sins will he bother to confess? Of course not. That would be paramount to telling the entire world of his misdoing.

            My second question concerns your implication in your last statement that the confessional seal causes harm. If so, please explain how so. I always thought abusers caused harm, not priests who refuse to divulge penitent sins. As I explained earlier there is no real justification for using the law to force priests to break their oath to God, unless, that is, the effort to break the back of the Church is considered a noble thing.

          • Anonymous

            I one more thing to tell you. You are free to respond or not too.

            Check out this link: Mathematicshttp://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=h60r2HPsiuM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

          • The age of consent in the Vatican is 12. It was 9. This is why the priests were allowed to do what they did.

          • Anonymous

            This is utter nonsense. It only shows your hatred for the Church for whatever reason that probably has little to do with sex abuse. Grow up.

          • He is right, the age of consent in the Holy See is actually 12, but jersey is wrong in that the priests are “allowed” to do what they want. You can’t be with a 12 year old if you are in a position of power over them, like a teacher, priest, boss, etc. The law is there, but there are also protections in place.

          • Anonymous

            More gibberish. Lies to cover up other lies. Reason doesn’t seen to rhyme with you.

    • Anonymous

      ANYONE can call themselves “reverend” you need no license, degree, or certification. Actually the whole “minister” thing is a sham. I have a Doctorate of Divinity hanging on my wall, that I bought for $5 from a church out in Bakersfield California back in the Seventies.

      My friends see my certificate on my wall and they ask “How can an atheist be a D.o.D.? I answer that I had five extra dollars.

      • Anonymous

        So true!

  • Anonymous

    First of all, can we please not refer to him as ‘Reverend”? He was a wolf in shepherd’s clothing, and used the title to manipulate and exploit vulnerable persons, both children and adults. While I’m glad to see the BDN naming this as an ‘organizational and cultural’ issue, the focus of their editorial seems to be only on children. Somehow, the important point overlooked here is that he abused his power with adults as well, as the original person was well into adulthood, according to the reports. Even so, the issue is never about the sex, but about the abuse of power of the role of clergy. While it’s not a crime in Maine for clergy to abuse their power with adults, it is in 16 other states, as it is a serious issue nationwide…see http://www.baylor.edu/clergysexualmisconduct/. Most clergy perps are indiscriminate and abuse both adults and children because, again, the issue is not about the sex, but about the abuse of power. These perps find pleasure in deceiving and exploiting others, and surely Carlson did that with all the adults he knew. He didn’t need to have sex with them in order to abuse his power. The crime is in the grooming process, always.

    • Anonymous

      The “original” person was underage when he first met Carlson. There was continued contact from that point on, is what I understand.

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, the fear of reprisal from an employer or the community is the real culprit in voicing concerns. When you lose your job and community respect for voicing a concerns about a “respected” citizen all bets are off.
    I can personally vouch for the cost of voicing those concerns about Mr. Carlson and I’m still paying the price 15 years later.

  • Anonymous

    Borning News day BDN? We have had “enough” of this phony. Please no more stories, he does not deserve this attention. We need to pray for the victims and hope they recover.

    • Superuser23

      If this guy was from another state there would be no talk of this today.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you, Orono Woman — enough dredging up stories from a year past in a feeble attempt to sell newspapers, BDN. What’s on tap today? Ayla Reynolds, Bob Carlson. the Alton murder-suicides, and, of more recent vintage, Jovan Belcher? Slow news day? It’s not all about the tabloids, even though it sure seems that way.

  • Henderson bobby

    All those who let him get away with it are free. Like Almy takes child abuse seriously.

  • Anonymous

    “…It’s good that these organizations have reviewed how they operate and
    made changes. But even if their new policies had been in place years
    ago, they probably would not have stopped Carlson, as he had no criminal
    record.”

    What kind of stupid uninformed useless comment is this? If these changes wouldn’t have helped, are we not in EXACTLY the same place we were in before we knew about Carlson?

    The way I see the problem is that Carlson got in a good place with a lot of big-wigs, and had the good sense not to abuse any of their children. Thus, no problem for the establishment.

    How about pictures of the rogues gallery of Carlson friends and supporters. How about you put it on the front page of your paper…. While we are at it, how come The BDN never followed up on the Lawrence case?

    BTW readers this paper gets paid by the number of comments. “Reverend” Carlson always gets lots of hits.

    • Anonymous

      Who pays the paper per comment?

      • Anonymous

        The people who advertise in the on-line version. You don’t suppose the BDN puts up those ads for nothing?

        • Anonymous

          they may pay per click, but they don’t pay per comment.

          • Anonymous

            Want to bet?

    • Henderson bobby

      Lawrence case . Just what do you want to know? Norman Harrington was not guilty . Just something Donnie Lawrence made up(source of my information being 2 members or the Lawrence case one is now dead) . Almy and Mike Roberts refused to prosecute any case Mr. Harrington would bring to court . Made it impossible for him to do police work . He sue got almost $1milion in court. The hard part was so many names were tossed in to confuse the court system it is hard to say how many guilty ones got away . Another Case Almy handled poorly. One lady who was married to one of the Lawrence case ring leaders is now a foster parent . Since she divorced the man for 10 years . But still stayed married about 10 years after he got out of jail. It is a lot easier to arrest someone on the lower end of the socieconomic ladder . All the people who went to jail for the Lawrence case were not educated . Was Carlson involved in the Lawrence case? Maybe we should ask the remaining members ? You will notice they are not registered sex offenders now . A few that are still living live in the Lagrange, Ornville area.

  • Anonymous

    Beating a dead horse! For Christ sake, move on from this story already, BDN! I mean damn….

  • Anonymous

    I agree that this man does not deserve to have his name and picture in the paper yet once again. As far as “It takes a village” in this instance, it took a village to enable a child molester to continue to abuse children. The main thing that comes to my mind when his name is mentioned is “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.”

    • Anonymous

      The phrase “it takes a village” contained in the heading of this article is misleading. The phrase popularized by the book written by Hillary Clinton bearing that title was intended to make the point it takes the efforts of government and community to raise children, which I disagree with. Rather, it takes two good parents to raise a child. We don’t need outside entanglement in the family unless there is evidence of serious abuse and neglect.

  • Anonymous

    It takes dedicated parents who are willing to spend time with their children and not rely solely on school and after school based activities that are suposedly designed to keep children safe and protected. It does not take a village to raise a child, it takes good parents.

    • I agree in a sense. It takes both. I am sure the children who were molested showed behavioral problems. I can almost guarantee that they were diagnosed and put on meds and no one really looked into what was going on in their lives. i know a kid who was diagnosed with ODD and other things and come to find out his mother’s boyfriend was touching him. They kept blaming the kid for the behaviors. Doctors, therapist, teachers, and parents all need to pay attention.

    • Anonymous

      Unfortunately, most children are abused sexually by a family member.

      • Anonymous

        Yes…a ‘trusted’ person. Carlson paraded around like the ultimate ‘trusted soul’ in his clerics. Evil.

    • Anonymous

      It takes both in today’s world.

    • Anonymous

      I agree. People who had the mentality that it takes a village to raise a child allowed this monster to be close to children while assuming that all was well. Parent’s have to keep involved with their children’s lives and not assume the “village” will keep their children’s best interest at heart. Nobody cares more for the welfare of a child more than a loving parents. Let’s start being honest and admit

      that the phrase “village” means government. The government stinks at raising children.

      • Anonymous

        The word “village” does not mean government. You are very sadly mistaken.

        • Anonymous

          Clarify just who village encompasses?

          • Anonymous

            The people in a community….teachers, shop owners, policemen, and others….. families, neighbors. It really is not that complicated.

      • Guest

        You have the village idea all wrong.

  • Anonymous

    I actually physically flinched as I scrolled down the page and saw his evil mug there. And, yes, why, why, why does the BDN continue to call him “Reverend”. Does the truth mean nothing to this paper?

  • Anonymous

    I wrote a comment which was posted and then it disappeared. Hmmmm. I’ll try again.

    I actually flinched when I scrolled down the page and saw Carlson’s evil face. And why, BDN, do you continue to call him ‘Reverend’? The truth is that he was never a Reverend. Why do you continue to refer to him as such?

  • With all the stories that have been written about Carlson and this issue, I have not seen any information as to to whom and how many times and how many different victims and where and when this all took place.
    Was the “victim” with whom Carlson spoke just before jumping, and is now an adult, incapable of defending himself…….many stories, but little information….

    • Anonymous

      No..not capable of defending himself. Think of it as hostage taking. Stockholm Syndrome happens…..brainwashed and unable to figure a way out. Look it up. Quite common w/ the dynamics of power. You fear ‘defending’ yourself because your perp threatens through using a psychologically damaging web…so tight you can’t get out of it. You fear losing your life, basically.

      • …and this individual is still in fear????

        • Anonymous

          If one of his victims, perhaps yes. Hopefully they have told their story to authorities, like others found the courage to. It’s the beginning of the healing process, whether child or adult.

  • Anonymous

    parents need to parent and stop pawning their kids off on others and there will be a lot less of this kinda crap and less opportunity for evil scum like him to take advantage of.

  • Anonymous

    The “it takes a village” theme is agenda 21, socialistic, Progressive Liberalism.. there are 128,000,000 laws in this country. With this type of thinking it will never stop until they outlaw breathing..

  • Lets also remember that Sheriff Glenn Ross tipped his good friend Carlson off that he was being actively investigated. That terrible act by Sheriff Ross, likely prevented Carlson from having to answer for his crimes. Let’s remember that Sheriff Glenn Ross got away with it too.

    • Anonymous

      And Beardsley of Husson.

  • Anonymous

    I often wonder if the village is the problem

    • Anonymous

      What village? Grandparents gone to Florida, aunts and uncles living in Iowa, and Idaho, Stepfather in New Jersey, and mother and new boyfriend in Maine, where they moved six-months ago from Texas?

      A plethora of unattached, diverse strangers are not a “village.”

  • Anonymous

    Still shaping the story BDN?

  • Anonymous

    Thankyou BDN for the redundant editorial. Your a “kill joy” at this time of year. Furthermore , for all the mandate reporters who did not report…. do you have a difficult time looking in the mirror? Intervention could have happened many many years ago if someone would have spoke up . Chances are Carlson probably had dirt on them too. This state is becoming corrupt.

  • Anonymous

    The problem with systematic paedos like Carlson is that they hide in plain sight. They use their position of authority to instill both trust and fear in their victims and their families. Hence the reluctance of Catholic families (in many cases headed by single mothers) to come forward even if they suspected their own children were being abused by their priest.

    In England, the repulsive Jimmy Savile, who hosted a make-a-wish style TV show for children, was actually given keys and 24-hour access to psychiatric and secure hospitals, where he systematically abused psychologically vulnerable boys and girls. He was so famous and well-respected, because he was a celebrity, that no one dared question his actions even when people in authority suspected what he was really up to. This is exactly what happened in the case of paedo Carlson. This is the culture that has to change.

    • Anonymous

      Well stated. These perps are savvy/expert manipulators amidst their narcissistic tendencies. These aren’t your trenchcoat-wearing fellas we think of. They’re always someone who is in a position of trust…in a fiduciary relationship if not a family member. The Bangor community has had several clergy perps in recent years, but the culture of Secrecy and loyalty that religious institutions often employ encourages protecting the ‘dear Pastor/perp’, leaving a victim no ‘place’ to come forward w/o having to deal with horrific shame and guilt. Look how long it took the EOCC to remove all things Carlson, as the pastor there didn’t want to ‘pass judgement’ on him, even though the evidence was clear this guy was a lifelong soul murderer.

  • 02b9c

    I personally hope they never stop talking about carlson, As long as he’s being talked about, people will have abuse awareness in the frontal lobes where it belong. I see a comment on here that mentioned grooming, that is exactly what they do. Don’t think for a minute it can’t happen around you. and yes keep a very close eye on your child. One thing i think could be very helpfull is a group setting for adults who were abused as a child, i think the knowledge that could be gained would be very insightfull because there are sooo many areas to cover on feelings and betrayal levels. also an outlet to vent which i think would be paramount to the healing process which by the way goes on for life to an abused person. I for one would love to attend such a group.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t take a village. It takes a father catching a pervert like that in the act of molesting his kid.

    • Anonymous

      A father with a glock-9.

  • Of the 271,176 children in Maine in 2010, 12.1 percent, or 3,269,

    BDN, when did 12% of 271,176 become 3,269?

  • Anonymous

    Yes it does take the village but the difference here is, Carlton was the highest
    monarchy who ran this village. He was the head chief he minipulated everyone.

    • Anonymous

      And he used the clergy ‘guise’ because he knew that this is about the most ‘trusted’ position in a community – or used to be. He’s not the only Protestant clergy perpetrator Bangor has had in recent years…

  • Anonymous

    Enough of this guy already.

  • Anonymous

    Are they ever going to stop showing this sicko’s face on here?

  • Anonymous

    It’s totally unnecessary to refer to Carlson as Reverend regardless of whether he was or was not one. Why the BDN continues to do this is beyond me. I would love to hear an explanation of why they don’t just refer to him as “Carlson.”

  • Anonymous

    BDN–Why the constant reminder of this sexual predator??? How many years are you going to put this lieing sicko’s picture in the paper. Enough already.

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