Comments for: Maine Republican committee names successor to Charlie Webster

Posted Dec. 01, 2012, at 2:35 p.m.

AUGUSTA | The Maine Republican State Committee elected Richard Cebra as its new chairman on Saturday morning. Cebra, who just completed his fourth term as a state representative from Naples, won by unanimous vote after Beth O’Connor, the only other nominee for the position, withdrew her name from consideration. …

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  • Guest

    hahahaha the GOP in 2014! What a mess.
    They can’t win!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      The Dems will put forth some progressive liberal with no chance to win, there will be several third party candidates and Paul LePage will be reelected.

      • StillRelaxin

        By 2014 it will be highly unlikely that Paulie will even run much less win an election. He’ll be retired to Florida where he’ll again be so disliked that he won’t even be able to be elected as dog catcher of his trailer park.

      • Anonymous

        Elliot Cutler will be running again for governor. He will be competitive.

        • Only if he gets off his keester and actualy comes north of Bangor and realizes that there is a Maine outside of the oh so comfortable types that actually works, or wants to work, and has something to offer. The last time Cutler ran he stayed hidden down south in Maine’s own version of the 47%. Look where it gotten him.

          • Anonymous

            It got him within 8,000 votes of victory – not bad for a new comer who ignored eastern and northern Maine, as you suggest.

          • It got him exactly where he deserves to be — carrying water for King Angus and Pingree, Bloomberg and the other Wall St. billionaires.

            Cutler, like King Angus and Baldacci, is a carpetbagger, and a humbug.

        • Anonymous

          Cutler is responsible for the LEPAGE administartion..He needs to go back into obscurity. Thanks alot ELLIOT!!!

          • Will you stop with that. Mitchell and her followers who went down with the sinking ship delivered LePage.

          • The only good thing she’s done in her entire Maine political career.

          • Anonymous

            Libby who?

          • notateapartier

            Couldn’t possibly have been Mitchell, right? She conceded at 10pm, and resulted in 19%. Cutler was the clear winner until the northern votes got counted. He and LePage were separated by a measley 1.4% of the vote.

        • Anonymous

          Is there anyone in this State that couldn’t beat LePage?

          • Gary Libby

            I’m thinking the Paul Bunyan statue in Bangor would have a hard time beating him. LePage’s problem now is his track record in the press, and the image he puts forth. It does appeal to a lot of people, but to a majority of the voters, well that’s doubtful.

      • Anonymous

        Dream on. And as to progressive liberals, the large majority of Mainers favor PROGRESS over BACKWARDS TEA-RADICAL DELUSIONLAND any day of the week. You TeaRadicals better wake up from your Pills Limbaugh/Fake News coma before you find your party shrunk right down to where it can be drowned in Grover Norquist’s bathtub.

        • Anonymous

          Just what is progress to you? Increasing the welfare numbers? Increasing the unemployment numbers?

          • Anonymous

            Progress is, like knowlege, powerful. Those who support the Republican agenda of dumbing down America will be left in the dust.

          • It’s spelled “knowledge.”

            You’re welcome.

          • Anonymous

            Why thank you, NRS. And I DO mean that. One should not be too hasty to post.

          • Anonymous

            Simple cure for unemployment. Stop sending jobs to the Chinese! Might help to attract new business if we didn’t have a Governor who was a loose cannon too.

      • Anonymous

        If nothing else, you Repubs sure are entertaining w/your delusions.

      • Guest

        huh?????

      • Anonymous

        Don’t count on it. Democratic party honchos and their rank and file have shown how easily they will abandon their party’s candidate, even though chosen by primary nomination, for a popular centrist.

    • Anonymous

      I believe you, they cannot win. There are far too many of you with your hand out for government entitlements to ever let that happen again.

  • Guest

    The GOP in 2014. A mess is still a mess and still will be.

    • Anonymous

      The Dems in 2014, a mess (just like they were in 2010) and will return to being a mess once they start their session.

  • kelverde

    Another GOPher birther…who woulda thunk? Seriously, all they did was swap out batteries in their Lunacy Machine.

    • Anonymous

      Kelverde said it best. AND they narrowly avoided having a woman in charge. With the Governor’s blessing this guy can continue to demolish the party we used to look to for intelligent and principled representation.

      • Anonymous

        Judging by your pre-concieved comment, I’d say you never looked toward the Republican party for anything let alone representation.

        • Anonymous

          Maine has been home to many GREAT statesmen and women ,including R’s that even I could be proud of ( and vote for) . like Margarete Chase Smith stand against McCarthyism and Bill Cohen’s role in the Watergate hearings .

          The teas. libertarians and ,extreme right , have made a mincemeat and a total mess out of the R party AND just in a mere 2 years!!! Heck they even chased out some of those states(wo)men I could be proud of at least half of the time —like SNOWE. The R party has become a national embarrassment to Maine and Mainers, with the likes of Webster and Lepage and now Cebra .

          No Cebra is NOT a “moderate “. Among other thing he led the charge on voter suppression , which by the way, the MAINE PEOPLE themselves ( had to and DID) over turned.

          The R party is out of touch and out of step with the people of Maine , PERIOD. They and their votes are now owned by the corporate sponsored and owned ALEC. And CEBRA helped lead the way in presenting ALEC’s bills before the Maine legislature !!! No he will NOT be an “improvement” over Webster .

        • Anonymous

          i was a Republican from 1973 til 2008 here in Maine. I am now independent. Margaret Chase Smith was a help to my Father in getting a service connected disability . (A Federal Program) and as a little boy i shook hands with Governor Reed.
          If you like Charlie Webster’s leadership and what he has done for the party , you will love this guy. You might check out his face book page.

  • Anonymous

    There is a difference between staying on message and hanging on to the message that does not work. Fortunately for the Dems, the GOP does not seem to make that distinction.

    • Anonymous

      They might as well have “annointed” the erudite Forest Gump-he of the “stupid is as stupid does” fame.

      • It’s spelled “anointed.”

        You’re welcome.

        • Anonymous

          Thank you again, NRS. That one was really an eye-opener for me and I appreciate your correction.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations to Rep. Cebra!

  • Anonymous

    I would bet Charlie Webster’s daughters moved because of him, not the state of Maine.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe his daughters actually wanted to work.

      • Anonymous

        If that were the case, they could have had a full-time job doing what Adrienne Bennett does: making apologies for stupidity.

      • Don’t you purely love the nasty vitriol from Liberals? If anyone wrote the same thing about Obama’s daughters on here, the Left would be lighting torches and polishing up their pitchforks.

  • Anonymous

    “Webster also repeated his assertion that Democratic policies have made
    Maine “a welfare state,” which caused both his daughters to move away.”

    Loser. My three offspring have good jobs in Maine, mostly southern Maine, but still Maine.

    Glad to see the Tea Party crowd is still lurking in Maine, the Red Fringe won’t garnish enough votes to ever get majorities.

  • Anonymous

    So now the GOP has an anti union stalwart as their leader.

    • kelverde

      He’s also a STALE WART on the posterior of Maine politics. So much for reaching compromise and getting things done during this legislative cycle.

      • Anonymous

        Could be worse, he could be like those who eleced the guy in the White House.

        • Anonymous

          Or he could be like the voters in fl, bruce: doing all they could to deny voters their rights.

  • Guest

    He will have a new message.
    The new boss isn’t much different than the old boss.

  • Anonymous

    Oh Gawd, perfect, that guy looks like a German SS, that is good, good for the Democrats.

    • Anonymous

      “Your papers please”

      • Tyke

        Well he is on the record as a birther.

  • StillRelaxin

    “Our message is the right message for the people of Maine.” Oh really! Is that a new message or the one Mainers and most American’s just solidly rejected? Unless you want to stay where you are in the polls and have few political offices, I’d suggest a little tweeking of your message may be in order. Just tryin to help.

    • Anonymous

      I was so appalled by that statement that i posted without reading your comment sorry..I think Cebra must be a clone drone mass produced by the GOP

      • StillRelaxin

        No problem. I’m sure that comment caught/will catch the eye of more voters out here than just you and myself. If the GOP/Tea Party wants to double down on whacky the voters will simply have to double down on making them irrelevant.

    • Anonymous

      I’m truly happy they’re doubling down on their pathetic nonsense ” the Right message” code words have been deciphered and decrypted and found to be deceitful, decrepit and delusional.

      • Anonymous

        Right, er, correct indeed! Regardless of how they package their dogma it is still a hidden agenda for the feudalization of America. I used to call it the enslavement of America but I was wrong. You see when people owned slaves they were responsible, albeit not much, for their care. The GOP doesn’t want responsibility for their vassals. Then they’d have to pay for healthcare, food, housing, basically pay a living wage. Nope. They want a feudal system where they can pay crap and not have responsibility for the outcome.

        • Anonymous

          So true, I hope all of us who reject the obtuse dogma of the extreme never fall asleep again as in 2010. The 2012 election will be meaningless unless we continue to drive out the elected extreme cycle by cycle. I for one have been awakened and will remain awake and engaged in our democratic process. Right message my foot.

    • Anonymous

      Nah, let them keep on w/the same tried but untrue message, Still. This new “Charlie Webster” will just guarantee another win for the Democrats. Just have to laugh at how every time they open their mouths, they hang themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Same RW kookery – different face.

    Yessah

  • Anonymous

    “Our message is the right message for the people of Maine,” Sorry Cebra..The majority of Maine voters disagree..

    • Anonymous

      Have you ever voted for a Republican?? If not it doesn’t effect you

      • Anonymous

        Yes I have DHd

        • Anonymous

          Everything in this State concerns me,,

      • Anonymous

        yeah it does And in the last 2 years we have seen exactly HOW much .

      • You don’t get it. The GOP should be looking for new voters and expanding their appeal. There are a lot of people that could be potential voters and donors if only the party could demonstrate some sense and moderation. The tea party fad was just that, a fad, not long term. The Democrats most certainly thank the hapless committee for replacing Webster with another Webster.

        • Anonymous

          The tea party will re-emerge and will be stronger than ever. Just remember 2010.

          • Maybe in other areas of the country. The experiment in Maine is over.

          • Anonymous

            Don’t think so. As soon as the Koch Bros. see how little they are getting for their investment, they’ll be pulling their money out and the whole organization will fall apart.

          • Guest

            Mainer’s won’t be that foolish again.

          • I can’t wait to see exactly how you’re going to forbid certain people from running for election in 2014. If enough people decide to run, there will again be a split vote.

          • Anonymous

            Please run Naran, please!!!

          • Anonymous

            Grover Norquist just announced Tea Party 2.

            Seriously.

            Tea Party 1 was putrid and we all know that sequels suk.

        • Anonymous

          Yes Republicans should be more like democrats if they want to win…….You are in an alternative universe, might want to forward your mail.

          • Hey, no problem – if you enjoy the company of a shrinking minority, by all means, continue on the same path. Many who supported the tea party types at the outset, because they wanted to see a change, have had their stomachs turned by the far right cut and paste legislation, the disrespect and the sheer ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    Another tper. My the repubs in this state want to keep on losing. When are the sane (I am starting to believe they do not exist anymore) going to speak out against this fanaticism? Conservative social issues? Watch out ladies.

  • Guest

    ……..

    • Anonymous

      have you ever voted for a Republican?

      • Guest

        Have you ever voted for a Democrat?

  • Anonymous

    Maines People Alliance, yea right a radical liberal org. I wonder if that is communism at its best, since we see what happened in the last Election. I guess Sen. King really is an Independent, yea right.

    • Anonymous

      I believe it is called the, “Alliance for Liberal Maine People.”

      • Anonymous

        I;d say they were called WINNERS …Not whiners.

        • Anonymous

          If this group is truly a bunch of WINNERS, then why aren’t they a group who gives of themselves, rather than a group who wants to take from others?

      • It’s called “people who will mislead Maine residents at their own front doors in a desperate bid for donations.”

    • Anonymous

      So this is the new GOP meme – “if you do not agree with us you’re a communist”.

      Good luck with that.

      Yessah

      • Anonymous

        It won’t get them far. Ignorance is usually not what wins an election, as the last election proved. Those whose party lost have not learned a thing. They are still spouting the same nonsense and lunacy. They throw the words communism and socialism around without a clue about that or anything else.

    • Anonymous

      Radical? Hardly. Concerned about the people the Rs are not concerned about? Very.

      • Speaking of memes — the idea that conservatives don’t care about other people is worn threadbare. It’s simply not true.

        You’re welcome.

    • Guest

      You’ve been hung up on the communism thing for a while now. It’s the new talking point of the GOP.
      Communism is so passe.

      • What do you call it, when protesters and Democrats call for taxing the rich, and redistribution of the money? I’d say “communism” fits the bill.

    • Anonymous

      Communism? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    • Anonymous

      I’m pretty sure what WE saw last election was an almost complete rejection of the extreme right pabulum, drivel and drool.

  • Guest

    Just another Tea Partier. Good grief, they haven’t seen the light and it appears they will still choose to remain in the dark.

    • Anonymous

      They haven’t learned a thing.

  • Anonymous

    Funny how the “right message” has been wrong in so many ways, it’s enough to make you wanta holler “Praise Jesus”

    • Anonymous

      That’s just crazy talk! Really. Crazy.

  • Anonymous

    Cebra was an excellent choice. His mainstream ideas will be extremely beneficial in growing jobs in Maine. Congratulations Chairman Cebra!

    • Guest

      Is that you Naran?

      • Anonymous

        Nope!

    • Anonymous

      Mainstream? Whose stream are you standing in? Another ALEC puppet. And, they have become quite the radical group with 41 of the more moderate corporate members leaving.

      • Anonymous

        You people are communists and communism is not mainstream. Of course, I must admit that it is gaining ground in Amerika. I guess from your point of view, anyone who believes in individual freedoms and small government are extremists.

        • Anonymous

          Your post is very sad. So glad the majority of people in this country don’t have such lunatic views.

        • Guest

          s……..

          • Anonymous

            Didn’t the Communist Party USA, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez and Vladimir Putin all endorse Obama for Pres. Didn’t the far left liberals also endorse Obama. Case closed!

          • fourCatssoon

            Maine maj you are surely off your medication again.

          • Anonymous

            Your’e funny!!

          • Anonymous

            Didn’t BOA, Goldman ,JP Morgan, Citgroup etc and all those we bailed out with trillions in 2008 endorse Romney ? Romney promised to “unchain them’ so they could live off and be bailed out by taxpayers yet again and again and again in the future . Seriously “communists’ ? SSHH don’t tell anyone… bailing corporation out of their mistakes isn’t a part of a freemarket theory.

          • Anonymous

            I believe GM endorsed Obama, along with the green energy types like the now bankrupt Solyndra.

        • fourCatssoon

          Wow, that is a great start calling all the people that don’t agree with you are communist. Sad Cebra, you will not last long when Katz learns about you.

        • Anonymous

          I do not think any of these posters know what communism is. They want Maine to be a welfare state and remain that way. They begrudge anyone who does well, or better than themselves. They want to keep the people down and dependent.

          • Anonymous

            Well put!

          • Anonymous

            and you want it to be a corporate “welfare state ” with preferential taxation — which costs us a lot more then ;’welfare ‘ever will..

        • Anonymous

          How many ‘communists’ did Alan West say were in Congress? 82? And did Alan West win re-election?

          • Anonymous

            Isn’t it amazing what the Soros money can do when combined with voter fraud?

        • Anonymous

          Okay now we know which stream you are standing in. And it is not mainstream America as most Americans see corporate control as anti-freedom and anti-anykindofgoverning.

    • Anonymous

      mainetream???!!!hardly !!! I noticed him because of some of his outrageous comments and bills .

      • Anonymous

        Is it outrageous to believe in individual freedoms, voter integrity, small government and most importantly job growth? Those who are opposed to these items are the radicals and the “Maine Alliance for Liberal People” is the most far left liberal organization in Maine. They never ask what they can do for others, it’s what others can do for them. Is this what you call mainstream? If so, then JFK would disagree strongly with you.

        • fourCatssoon

          You mean like all the jobs the Clown LePage promised and the only job he created was for his Daughter and the other relative whose only qualification is that he owns a hammer.

        • Anonymous

          You might want to check out his track record.

          Does “individual freedom” include the right to choose who to marry and what do you with your OWN body? Does it include the freedom to move and the freedom to choose your college with out interference with your “freedom” to VOTE.? Does it include your individual freedom to UNIONIZE and collectively bargain without “government ” interference ?

          Does “voter integrity” include suddenly suppressing the vote to try to win an election aka “selective voting”–“selecting” who will be allowed to vote and who will not?

          Where is that job growth?? Job creator don’t seem to be creating any ….despite the lowest tax rate EVER for a decade +.

          • Anonymous

            Of course, individual freedom includes the right to marry. As far as I know everyone in the U. S. has this right. Individual freedoms should also allow people rights to do what they want with their own body, such as tattoos, earrings, exercise, eat at McDonald’s or even drink 20 oz sodas. Of course Mayor Bloomberg and Michelle Obama may disagree with me on this one. Now, this isn’t saying we should allow people to willfully destruct their own bodies. Are you saying that if someone wants to cut off their healthy limbs, we should allow them? Wouldn’t a better approach be to talk them out of it?

            The freedom to vote is essential at maintaining our democracy, but so isn’t maintaining voter integrity. Voter integrity is simply making sure that people meet the voter eligibility requirements, such as being at least 18 years old and an American citizen living in the state they are voting in. However, I will admit that I am opposed to people who willfully violate voting laws, as should any good American. Since when is making sure that voters meet our voter eligibility requirements, voter suppression. This is crazy talk. Why would any good American encourage voter fraud?

            Being pro-choice, I totally support the “Right to Work.” If people want to unionize, then go right ahead as long as they meet the laws requirements. What I am opposed to is forcing people who do not belong to unions pay union dues. I am also pro-choice, so if people choose to join unions, then join. However, being pro-choice, I also believe that we should not force anyone to join a union who chooses not too. Are you pro-choice?

            Check out this link to see the 7,400 new private sector jobs that have
            been created since July, 2011.
            http://www.gngnews.com/issues/pro-growthreformsarehelpingtocreateprivatesectorjobs

    • Anonymous

      Mainstream? I will wait patiently and see. But saying we lost because of the unions isn’t exactly an astute reading of the election. The Ds didn’t exactly *buy* the election.

      • Anonymous

        Webster’s comments displeased many in the ME GOP because his comments were not representative of the ME GOP’s values. As a result, he is gone on Jan 1 and the party moves forward.

        • Anonymous

          Oh please, Webster said exactly what others in the GOP were thinking and saying in veiled language. He got into trouble because he wasn’t vague enough about it like his counterparts usually are.

          • Anonymous

            Funny, I wasn’t thinking those things? Of course, perhaps the liberal press distorted his statements, enough so that his message was completely taken out of context in an attempt to marginalize the ME GOP. No, our liberal press wouldn’t do that would they? Of course they would, they do it all the time.

          • Anonymous

            No, what’s funny is that you claim not to be thinking those things, then you go on to defend Webster and say his remarks were taken out of contexts. That’s hypocrisy. You’re trying to distance yourself from the remarks and defend the remarks at the same time. You can’t have it both ways.

          • Anonymous

            Maine’s GOP does not need the press to marginalize itself. It’s doing a fine job on its own.

          • I can’t wait for the first gubernatorial veto. If you think Maine’s GOP has been “marginalized,” you’re in for a hefty surprise.

          • Anonymous

            LePage put the goober in gubernatorial.

        • Anonymous

          well you might wan to read their platform… all the same garbage is still there…. anti union , anti women, anti immigrant ,anti voter

          • Do let us know when you sign up to vote Republican, and then you’ll have a say on our platform. Until then, you’re irrelevant.

  • Anonymous

    ALEC inside the State House and now ALEC pounding on the doors of the State House. Hope the Ds are on their toes.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll take ALEC over the communist George Soros any day of the week.

      • fourCatssoon

        You are not the majority, but you are the leader in hate and negative attacks.

      • Anonymous

        remember Ayn Rand was a “communist ‘ too.

      • Anonymous

        Facism over Communism? Tough choice.

    • Anonymous

      me too!!! They seem to be celebrating Cebra . That is NOT a good sign !!!

  • Anonymous

    I love how he totally dismisses Maine voters by blaming it on the unions. What an old and tired refusal to deal with reality.

  • Anonymous

    from bad to worse— BYE BYE R party. Expect 40 year more years in the dessert

    • 40 years in the dessert…mmmm, yum!

      • Anonymous

        eeww and I retyped it twice ..”desert”?

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like O’Connor would have been a better choice. The only apparent plus for Cebra is his giving up on voter issues.

    • Anonymous

      I wouldn’t count in him “giving up’ on voter issues , no matter what he might say. ..he led the charge last time. . Suppressing the vote is more important then ever ….given the out come.

  • Anonymous

    You really have to think, where do they dig these clowns up, and is this the GOP in 2013/14, sometimes I want to ask, is this still America??

  • Hayseed.

    Angry, white, rotund, facial-haired Republican male replaced with a fresh new…oh wait.
    :-D

    • Anonymous

      What a racist, sexist thing to say.

      • Thank you. I do not understand why anyone thinks it’s okay to hate on other people based on gender and skin color.

        • Anonymous

          then I guess you don’t understand why you support Republicans either.

    • Anonymous

      Have you looked at who the DEMS selected as their ME House and Senate leaders? Makes me think it’s the DEMS who have a war on women.

  • Anonymous

    Who did the MPA *want* to be elected Chairman? Is this news? Nice picture of Cebra, BDN…message?

    • It doesn’t matter who the Maine GOP elected as chair or vice chair. The MPA and Maine liberals would hate them, regardless. Anything less interferes with the donation levels for the MPA and similar organizations. Progressives thrive on divisiveness and spreading distrust. It pays them better than being beneficial and productive.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds kind of like Charlie without the moustache, don’t expect much to change.

  • Anonymous

    Beth should’ve won. Nothing against Cebra.

  • BigPaw

    So now we know why the Republicans oppose education…they just refuse to learn !

  • Anonymous

    “Our message is the right message for the people of Maine,” he said.

    ****************

    Cebra must be the only Republican left who thinks the party doesn’t need to retool their message. The GOP should name the writer of this blog (posted below) as their leader. He gets it.

    http://themaineteaparty.com/forum/topics/our-problem-in-one-chart

  • Anonymous

    Is there any such thing as a “staunch liberal”?? Just asking, cuz we hear about “staunch conservatives”, “far right”, etc. etc. etc. all the time.
    Yet we never hear or seer the opposite terms in the media, huh…… weird.

    • Anonymous

      You should instead consider there could be such a thing as a fiscally conservative liberal. The far and extreme right have created boxes that fit one size/description only that fewer and fewer are interested in stepping into that muck and allowing the crazy concrete to set. In addition conservative has come to mean conspicuous consumer which seems truly opposite the term conservative.

      • Anonymous

        Good point.

        Maybe that’s me?

        Own a gun, believe a woman has the right to choose, Opposed to welfare and the death penalty. Opposed to foreign intervention and big-money gifts to other countries, Opposed to the “Dream act” but in favor of helping our own college students afford an education.

        • Anonymous

          I’d vote for that. I don’t vote for the lip-service to fiscal responsibility and then actually blowing cash on a massive Defense budget and tax cuts that aren’t paid for.

      • Anonymous

        Conservative has not “come to mean” anyone’s political re-definition. It is rock solid and time-proven. It is the natural default when life on the edge gets too scary and it is conservative principles which will last far beyond anyone’s political dreams of power usurpation no matter how they identify themselves.
        Fool or be fooled…that is the choice.
        (Non-respectful replies will be ignored.)

        • Anonymous

          Maybe I should amend “come to mean” to “show by their actions”
          If we use someone like Trump who identifies himself as conservative and supports conspicuous consumption or David Frum there is little comparison one is a pompous jerk the other I have great respect for.

          • Anonymous

            Mainers, how much longer will our patience last while “shown by the actions” of either political party?

            Does anyone here sincerely believe that PowerGrabbers-D or PowerGrabbers-R own the ONLY altruistic ethics to have our best interests in their hearts? Does either party really love our children? Does either really respect our family military members? Does either really want us to be free and independent to live our lives without their obnoxious suffocating egos? Why have we been sucked into believing segmented and divisional truths rather than naturally respect the commonality of all, protected by the very Constitution designed to limit “their” power needs?

            How much longer will we put up with this?

          • Anonymous

            All divisions aside, as I see it, when those elected start legislating morality and corporate interests are writing legislation that is in only their interests and state government is centrally influenced by those corporate interests, we’re in deep dodo. How much longer must we put up with this?

          • Anonymous

            I’m sincerely flattered that you attempt to parrot my word composition but your point was lost in your last reply (although I would guess it’s probably the liberal default argument.)
            We are the government, not them.

          • Anonymous

            You speak of labels that divide us then instantly revert to labels?
            You demand respect from others but in reality have no interests in other opinions other than or own. How conservative of you.

          • Anonymous

            As I indicated in my last reply, the point you were trying to make was not clear and I needed clarification in order to counterpoint. The volley needs focus. Please hold off on assumptions of my opinion until I speak for myself just as I wanted you to speak for yourself.
            I propose that the group of people we know as Mainers have our life pursuits constitutionally protected and when wronged have ways to address those wrongs legally. The system is sometimes clumsy but it works. This is not a people issue as we are united in purpose and have equal redress when challenged.
            The crux of the matter is that of the overarching and opposing socio-economic philosophies that are now at loggerheads and are being battled by the very politicians we instinctively and wisely distrust. This is the classic confrontation between government control and limited government. The philosophical natures of the two cannot occupy the same space and time any more than noise and silence can.
            If Mainers want to keep the Constitutional Freedoms they know presently they would be wise to respect their own power.

        • Well, there are conservatives, then there are the regressives. The former has come to be confused with the latter. If conservatives want to do themselves a favor, they’d be wise to separate themselves from the regressive, turn back the clock types.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry…..the confusion is not the conservatives’.

          • The confusion is within the Republican party. What they are and what they should be.

          • Anonymous

            The confusion is also within the Democratic Party. JFK Democrats are now full well aware they have been dismissed by the Progs for quite some time now as having served their purpose and taken for granted. These conservative Dems are feeling just as abused and neglected as the conservative Repubs feel at the betrayal of traditional fiscal accountability as evidenced throughout the Good-Time Charley days of the GW Bush administration.
            Mainers…the power is within us to control them, one and all.

          • The progressives are still a small minority in the party. Obama is certainly not a progressive candidate – not a liberal’s liberal. And Maine? Of our 4 national reps – 1 is progressive – Pingree. Michaud, Collins and King are not exactly what I would call centric, though closer to center than most reps in DC.

            Some in the Maine congress are progressive types, though they do not outnumber the establishment candidates. The idea that the far left has taken over the Democrats simply isn’t accurate.

            And no, the tea party did not “take over” the GOP, but they enjoyed for a time a disproportionate amount of influence. They are however, obviously seeing an adjustment and a pushing back from the more conventional Republican voters. They have been put on notice. Unfortunately the Maine GOP has not got the memo yet.

            As for abuse? I don’t think there has been any move to alienate the blue dogs, or pro-lifers in the D party. No loud “DINO” admonishments I am aware of. What abuse do you refer to?

          • Anonymous

            It should come as no shock to you that I disagree with your
            analysis and opinion but to your question…

            Between now and the next election it is an absolute certainty that politicians will do what politicians always do and that we will be pushed to our limits of patience once again. They’ll default to their parallel universe of polls, distraction and denials, disconnected from the very Mainers they’re so sure they know. They’ll rush to their laboratories with the latest, juciest quantified metrics from the field to plot strategery quite smug with their manipulative data and their political acuity and they never lie till they’re caught.

            Surprise! There is more to life. Decades ago the Democratic
            Party was very different than what the newest voters perceive the current party to be. JFK inspired Democrats and urged them to do for the country rather than beg from the country as they do now. Plenty of Mainers remember those days of ideals and compassion and cannot reconcile their beliefs with the selfishness
            of Obama phones along with all the other U-turns in comparative policies. We have grandchildren now and there is nothing more important to many of us. Abuses? Send the field workers! There are metrics to be captured in the hugging arms of grandparents and grandchildren. Whole laboratory beakers and data files
            can be filled with all their new discoveries and they wait analysis!
            Of course, maybe they’d rather not.

          • I am not shocked. :D

            Your second paragraph is right on of course.

            And of course there is more to life – if one is fortunate. Not everyone is.

            I could support center right economic polices. Though the leadership that is aiming to achieve this is absolutely abysmal. The GOP needs to do better than these clowns.

          • Anonymous

            Thank you for your e-civility. I hope others who read our volley can also be persuaded to drop their en-garde attacks to see that we are after all, neighbors in this beautiful state…despite differences.

      • Anonymous

        how about we change the term to “fiscally responsible.” instead .. fiscally conservartive isn’t fiscally responsible.It’s a created myth. fiscal conservatism brings policies that endorses the repeatedly failed trickle down voodoo economics which leads to HISTORIC deficits ( and therefore debts) .instead of fiscal responsibility.

        This “fiscal cliff “discussion is the perfcet opportunity for the fiscally RESPONSIBlE to EDUCATE the people on the errors and weakneses of a “fiscally conservative” approach. Their arithmetic just doesn’t add up.

        • Anonymous

          Excellent point, I totally agree, thank you, I’ve evolved :)

        • Anonymous

          In a kitchen war between my neighbor’s bakery and your governmental elves I’d bet my neighbor could bake real cookies and provide fiscal responsibility faster than your treehouse elve werkers could unionize…not that you don’t love the Cookie Monster in all of us.

    • Anonymous

      geeze you haven’t been paying much attention, have you?

  • Guest

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    • BigPaw

      Yeah, how come Charlie gets the big, almost flattering ( I SAID almost !) pic and Cebra looks like he belongs on Chat Roulette !

      • Anonymous

        and i want to know WHY he was showing his driver license and who he was showing it to. ( context please? )

  • Anonymous

    Demographic and cultural trends are running counter to the principles of the Party.

    If the Party wants a future, it will have to become more practical, less doctrinaire, and honestly mindful of the desires and needs of citizens of all stripes and circumstances.

    The greatest damage to the Party has not been done by Democratic snipers, we’ve just rested the barrel of our piece on our toe to keep it out of the dirt.

    • Anonymous

      Of course: Why didn’t I think of that. How could I have been so blind. When the other party is headed in the wrong direction, and they win, we should follow them anyway, because that is the way to get votes.

      I voted for Obama because there was no other realistic choice. I don’t like his “Dream act” I don’t like his health care mandate, and I don’t like his continuing the policy previous administrations used to “raise money” for foreign wars.

      Obama got my vote because Romney actively marketed himself as a candidate for the very wealthy. He also came across as having no core values having changed almost every position he had held when he was Governor of Massachusetts. Finally he displayed a cruel streak with his 10K bets, his treatment of his dog, and the abuse of a fellow student he perceived as gay. If a student in today’s schools had held down another student against their will, and cut his hair the crime would be called assault.

      My vote for Obama was validated when the tally for Michigan (The State where Romney was born and where his father was a respected Governor) and Massachusetts (where he served as Governor) rejected his candidacy. When you can not get the votes of the people who know you best, you do not deserve to be elected.

      But I am that swing voter that folks on TV talk about. I could very well go back to voting for the Republican candidate if (for an example) Olympia Snowe runs for Governor in two years.

      • Anonymous

        People like you need to be engaged in the primary process way more. Romney only got the nomination because the Tea Party whackos he was up against couldn’t stand up to even the smallest bit of scrutiny and because the reasonable guys (like Hunstman) get maligned if they reveal they believe in climate change.

        It’s not about following and do what the winning party did to win — it’s about not going for the cheap wins. Not using anti-gay, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant sentiments, not using hyperbole, etc. to win. Sticking to real conservative principles would have probably translated into a win — as it turns out, painting Obama as a radical leftist socialist whatever didn’t mean a win and that’s because the truth wins out.

        • The lameness of the primary season is a big problem. Not only in the differences between the primary and caucus states, but the huge date variance. Primaries should be the same in every state and on the same date.

          Huntsman was already out by the time we voted here in Maine. Allowing the votes of the first few states to make or break candidates is a poor way of doing it.

  • Anonymous

    Is there a full moon out? All this yipping, snarling and fang baring is making me think there’s a bit more than usual fear going down here.
    Thank you Rich, for your willingness to represent those of us who know you’re more than capable.

  • Anonymous

    Another fat, rich, white man. Nothing changes but the name.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah! You tell ’em! THEY’RE all racists…….right?

    • Anonymous

      …and of course the Democrats in Maine are represented by a skinny black.Jewish lady?

      • Exactly.

        Meanwhile, the D’s saying things like “fat rich white men” are guilty of racism, and other forms of prejudice. Hypocrites.

  • Anonymous

    What’s his plan to get the Charlie Webster-discovered Maine rural black vote?

  • Anonymous

    So they’ve traded in a completely delusional TeaRadical for a slightly less delusional TeaRadical. Good job GOP. Just keep going in REVERSE. Just keep going the way of FAKE-NOISE and OLD PAUNCHY PILLS LIMBAUGH. If you think your beating this year was bad, just wait until 2014. Your pathetic little TeaRadical party is OVER. You won’t be able to be elected dog catcher. Cebra, as to ObamaCare, it is a DONE DEAL. America and Maine WANT IT, and so you and your radical ilk can just GET OVER IT ! You LOST on this issue, and America wants it to work and to move on. Welcome to REALITY. And Webster, good riddance. You are delusional, and you and your ilk LOST because you are all for the burned out old smooch-the-toenails-of-the-rich trickled-on economics and back-to-the-fifties social policy. And also Cebra, bring it on ! Come 2014 your buddy LeBUFFOON is HISTORY, the murals are coming back, and class and dignity will return to the Blaine House. And if anything, you TeaRadicals are going to LOSE even MORE seats in the legislature. Oh the sad sorry Maine GOP. You had a chance to return to your moderate roots of Ike, Chase Smith, and Cohen. Instead of that, you’re doubling down in TeaRadical Land. Well, you are the gift that just keeps on giving to the DEMOCRATS. :-)

  • Anonymous

    what the hell has happened to the real Americas. Sounds like the fascists are having a bad day, look at the up side you make #4

  • Anonymous

    I believe that Rich and Beth will bring unity to the Maine GOP and out of that unity will come a victory for Gov. LePage in 2014.

    • Anonymous

      LePage has absolutely no chance, zero chance, of winning again. That is just delusional. I bet he doesn’t even run. Maine voters will not repeat their mistake of splitting the vote.

      • Really? How do you intend to keep people from running for office?

        Meanwhile, I believe Gov. LePage definitely will run again in 2014. I look forward to the campaign.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t ‘intend’ to keep people from running for office. I don’t think I have that power! Where do you get that from what I said? I said I don’t believe he will because he knows he’ll lose. Oh, wait…..Romney thought he was going to win up until the second he didn’t because he only listened to internal polling which was FOX so maybe LePage will run. But, I predict he will lose. You can predict he will run and win. I don’t care.

    • Anonymous

      Unity for R’s doesn’t translate into the best interest of Mainers I;d see a lot of R’s abandoning the party , becoming unenrolled OR even joining the D party. In the last few years in Maine —-R’s and unenrolled LOST voters D’s gained them. I expect that trend will continue ( to win elections)

    • 33% – that’s what Summers got in the senate race, and about what I’d expect LePage to get in 2014. Now, it will be less embarrassing if it’s another 3 way race, but if it’s a two way race and LePage loses by such a massive margin – the humiliation for the party will be complete. If they were smart (meaning it won’t happen), the Republicans would nominate another candidate for Governor, and put the incumbent on the bench.

    • Anonymous

      Well, Unity went Democratic. All those crunchy granola organic farmers don’t you know?

  • Anonymous

    I love that now that King won a Senate seat that this paper now referrs to him as a “Democrat.” I quote: “After Democrats regained control of both legislative chambers and won all three races for federal office this year…”

    So the paper of record pushes the “I” label during the campaign, but reverts to “D” after the election. Is there any shame about being dishonest these days?

    I’m tired about hearing of Charlie and all his faults… you’ve covered that. There was enough dirt thrown during the many campaigns To cover every politician in the state of Maine… which might not be a bad idea.

    • Thank you, Katz. Like you, I’m glad King Angus is finally being identified with his true political affiliation. I wonder if he’s figured out yet that he’s not the “big fish” in DC he might have hoped. Because he’s not.

      As for Maine, I look forward to the next two years, as the Dems try to pass questionable legislation, or reverse fiscal reforms in Augusta, only to see their efforts vetoed by the Governor. They don’t have sufficient numbers in either House or Senate to override a gubernatorial veto, so they’re out of luck if they don’t work with the Republicans.

      I think Rich Cebra and Beth O’Connor will do a good job running the Maine GOP, and getting excellent candidates lined up for the next round of elections. I am grateful for their service to Maine residents.

  • Anonymous

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the true definition of what? You guessed it. INSANITY!! These dolts will never learn.

  • Anonymous

    So they make beth O’Connor the vice chair. Well, she’s cut from the same cloth as Voter-Fraud Charlie, except that she’s worse. She claims on her blog on “As Maine Goes,” that “Franklin Delano Roosevelt collaborated with Soviet leader Joseph Stalin to pursue socialist policies and enabled the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.” Roosevelt “had radio transmissions intercepted and knew the Japaneses [sic] were going to bomb Pearl Harbor…he did nothing to evacuate even though he had the time,” O’Connor wrote, “the piece of crap needed the war to further his agenda and bail this country out of a deppression [sic] that he himself exasburbated [sic] with his policy.”

    For a real treat and a good look at how the Maine Republican Party thinks, have a look at:
    http://www.asmainegoes.com/

    • Anonymous

      Conspiracy theorists always make good representatives of the people, don’t they? They always have our best interests at heart.

  • Anonymous

    Webster is delusional.

    “Webster also repeated his assertion that Democratic policies have made
    Maine “a welfare state,” which caused both his daughters to move away.”

    If I were his kid, I’d run as far as I could from the guy. Can’t imagine college friends having much respect for them in Maine, let alone minority friends.

  • Anonymous

    Republicans didn’t lose because they were outspent. God these guys are incredible — they’ll do anything to avoid taking personal responsibility and doing a little self-reflection. It’s always someone else’s fault with them. But yeah, nominate more of the same — I love to see that, it just means more wins for liberals.

  • Anonymous

    To say that LD58 was “attempt to invalidate President Barack Obama’s health care reform law in Maine” is a bit of an understatement. LD58 would have set penalties up to a $5,000 fine and five years in prison.

  • Guest

    About time this bum is gone!!

  • Gary Libby

    If it’s true he is a Tea Party adherent, then that will make unifying his party more difficult. What the Republicans need is someone who can build consensus, not someone who will dig his/her feet in the sand and refuse to compromise.

  • Anonymous

    Replace one Crook Tea-Republican with another. The Tea-Republican way. The party of Racists and Thugs. Pathetic.

    • Anonymous

      Your accusations of Racism, Tea party, thugs. is what IS PATHETIC. Do not place all Republicans in that attack as it is NOT true. The Left is far worse each time comments such as your accusations are ranted. it accomplishes nothing but showing mean spirited rant.

      • Anonymous

        You criticize Knightscross for making a sweeping generalization and then you make your own sweeping generalization. That’s called hypocrisy.

        • Anonymous

          that is called Tit for Tat. it was well deserved .

          • Anonymous

            You don’t get to complain about a behavior when you’re engaging in that exact same behavior yourself.

          • Anonymous

            The Tea Party continues to be bashed and often in comments here. I will “Complain” when I read people generalizing race, political parties and elected. You know the comments here are of that anit context.

  • Anonymous

    Describing the right winger Cebra as the party’s mainstream “establishment” candidate seems a pretty clear indication of how far to the edge of the stream Maine’s once-Good Old Party bosses have steered the raft.

  • Anonymous

    To those who continously raise the threatening specter of communism in your posts, you know very little about what communism is.

    The Red Scare rhetoric is an emotional tactic that is as hollow in fact today as it was in the McCarthy era of the late 1940s and early 1950s.

    Historically, our freedoms have been, and continue to be, at much greater risk from the ultra-conservative right. All while the propaganda machine works overtime to convince the public that the goal is to increase freedom.

    Are you blind followers or do you have minds of your own? Do your homework and study history from a broad-based perspective, not just what reinforces your pre-conceived views.

  • The more things change the more things stay the same.

  • Guest

    That’s a big change for the GOP party.
    Tea party fools the lot of them.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Webster says his kids left Maine because it’s “a welfare state”.

    I sincerely doubt that Charlie. But if it’s true, why don’t you follow them?

  • notateapartier

    “Democratic policies have made Maine “a welfare state,” which caused both his daughters to move away.”
    Yes, Charlie, THAT’S why they moved away from you.

  • Tne Maine Peoples Alliance is busy attacking new GOP Chair, Rich Cebra, and the new Vice-Chair, Beth O’Connor. According to the MPA, and other
    Maine liberals, Cebra’s selection as Chair means that Maine’s GOP is
    “doubling down on extremism.”

    Read the MPA aims for Maine’s economy, and tell us, who are the real “extremists”?

    —————

    “MPA Fair Share Economy”

    –Universal education from pre-K through college. (taxpayer provided)

    –$1 billion to eliminate unemployment. Meaningful work is a human right… raise the minimum wage to $10/hr (why stop there?)

    –Publicly Financed Health Care. Health care is a human right. In a
    “single payer” system with no health insurance companies, everyone gets
    the care they need by contributing what they can afford through taxes.

    –Lower taxes for the bottom 70%. The top 10% will pay 5% more than
    low-income Mainers pay now. (their chart shows top earners paying an
    effective rate not a marginal rate of 22% state and local taxes)

    https://www.mainepeoplesalliance.org/fairshare

    —————–

    Have the MPA beancounters even quantified the cost for the first item on their list of entitlements? I doubt it; after all, why bother to count the cost when it’s not your money being utilized for the “give-aways”?

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