Comments for: State might curtail spending up to $37M as revenues keep falling short

Posted Nov. 28, 2012, at 3:57 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 28, 2012, at 7:24 p.m.

AUGUSTA | Gov. Paul LePage’s finance commissioner said Wednesday state agencies likely will have to curtail spending by up to $37 million in the coming weeks, the result of new revenue projections that show state tax collections continuing to come up short for this fiscal year. State revenues have …

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  • Anonymous

    “When you’re doing a curtailment, you’re doing a cut that’s not thoughtful, not strategic, and across all state government,” said Sen. Justin Alfond, D-Portland, the presumptive Senate president.

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    Translation: We should just keep spending money we don’t have.

    • trisailer

      We don’t have it because the governor gave away $150 million without proposing a single cut in costs.

      • What do you call the $20+ million he’s trying to cut from MaineCare every year?

        Oh, wait, you’re a liberal — you’ll call it a cost increase.

    • Anonymous

      no, when one creates a PROBLEM( giving away revenue that we need) ; one should be accountable( and do the hard work) to solve it ,instead of taking the easy way out.

  • Lord Whiteman

    Lepage administration = train wreck.

  • Guest

    LePage = lame duck…. quack, quack

  • Anonymous

    thank you Mr Obama and all your leaches that voted for you.

    • Anonymous

      Do you expect the majority, who you call leaches, to say anything to your rude self ?

      Well, surprise.

      You’re welcome.
      In spite of you, we did it for our America.

      • If only we could send the Obama voters our own increased bills for taxes and health care. That would be justice.

        • Anonymous

          Now that would be sweet!

        • Anonymous

          uh your taxes and health care bills , didn’t go up because of or despite obama.

  • Anonymous

    We’re so fortunate to have a governor who is willing do do his job, which is to make the tough budgeting decisions and to NOT stick the bill to the next generation. Chalk one up for the Gov.!

    • Anonymous

      yep, isn’t he great??

    • trisailer

      According to the governor’s logic, you should toss your kids out in the snow and buy yourself a new toy when your family budget comes up short. Most of us would be thinking about generating more income.

      The state needs revenue. The tax cuts were a mistake. That money has not created a single job.

      • Anonymous

        The state needs to prioritize its expenses. We cannot continue being a nanny state because we cannot afford it. How can you say revenue is the problem when Maine is the 6th highest taxed state in the nation? The over taxation is the problem because businesses do not want to open up shop in Maine because of our high taxes. If you want to grow revenue, then how about we continue making Maine more business friendly and grow revenue through business and job growth, not additional taxes and no job growth as you propose?

        • Anonymous

          the state need to stop giving it;s revenue away IF you are struggling top pay your bills( expenses) you don’t quit your job( reduce revenues) and expect things will get better .

          R’s economic strategy — flunks basic math .

          • Anonymous

            What, “The state needs to stop giving its revenue away?” Give me a break! The state needs to prioritize its expenses by cutting the free tattoos, beer, cigarettes and alcohol for the welfare crowd. Just think of the savings.

            When our household budget becomes tight, the first thing we do is prioritize the necessities. My boss would laugh his head off if I were to ask for a huge raise, after I informed him that our family wasted too much money and are now faced with a debt we can no longer afford. My raise would be declined, so hence my expenditure prioritization begins.

            It’s pretty basic math if you ask me. $2 revenue + $2 revenue = $4. For some reason, the DEMS, who have ruled ME for the past 40 years think it adds up to $5 worth of spending money. This is the crux of the problem. The D’s cannot add correctly because they think there is more money to be had from the ME taxpayers. They don’t realize that our backs are broken from all the prior tax increases that have placed ME as the 6th highest taxed state in the nation. Hence, the death spiral of Maine.

      • FELT

        Baldacci is no longer governor.

  • Anonymous

    Lepage is a major blowhard.

  • This is because Maine is a “Death Spiral State”….Maine has more takers than makers!….But you voted for obama and got your homosexual sin into law, so you all should be happy! You cant pay income tax when you have no income! Start taxing foodstamp and welfare recipients and our revenue will be back on track!(nimrod alert…that was a joke!)

    • Anonymous

      Where you been hiding Bill? Have you seen the light of day since Nov 6th?

    • Anonymous

      Make it so people on welfare can’t vote and see what happens then.

      • Anonymous

        Your name says it all.

        • Anonymous

          Does the truth hurt…?????

          • Anonymous

            no just a gross name to a gross comment.

      • Anonymous

        I heard a rumor that Lepage might shut the state down. If your car needs to be registered, might want to do it tomorrow

        • Anonymous

          good that will guaranatee. R’s will spend another 40 year in the political desert .

      • trisailer

        Welfare people vote at less than half of the average. The majority of Mainer’s vote for intelligent fiscal policy and are not buying what Lepage is selling because it is simply bad policy.
        That bad policy is reflected in the fact that the $150 million tax cuts didn’t generate a single job and the tax burden is simply being shifted down to the middle class.

        • Anonymous

          Compared to the failed Baldacci administration, who pretended to balance the budget by simply not paying the bills, LePage is a freaking genius.

          • trisailer

            Lepage has increased the state budget and the governor cut revenue. He has not produced a single cost cutting proposal except to put all the suffering on the poor and old people.

          • Anonymous

            I know that liberals hate math, but think for a minute…wouldn’t he have to increase the budget if he was going to actually pay the hundreds of millions in bills that Baldacci just ignored? The people who run healthcare businesses surely appreciate actually being paid for their work instead of being treated as slaves by the failed Baldacci administration.

          • Anonymous

            nice twisted thinking..and baldacci increased the budget to fill angus budget gap. Did you buy that thinking and justification?? Lepage INCREASED the budget 7.6%. Baldacci didntl ever get close to that !

          • Anonymous

            Math really is your friend. Don’t fear it. Paying the hospitals the hundreds of millions that Baldacci stiffed them on for over 5 years requires spending more money.

        • Anonymous

          If the democrats would stay out of his way, we would be fine.

          • Anonymous

            D’a have been “out of the way ” ….R’s have been in charge for 2 years so … why the BIG budget gap NOW??

          • Anonymous

            Leftovers from Baldacci!

      • Anonymous

        A lot of right wingers wouldn’t be voting then.

        • Sorry chumly…conservatives work for a living…democrats leech of of us!

          • Anonymous

            You are wrong again. You make a habit of it.

    • Anonymous

      to enlighten you, people are born gay or straight. Homosexuality is not a “sin” as you call it. Show some compassion for your fellow man and woman

      • Anonymous

        Get ready. Bill will go over the edge with your comment.

        • Takes one to know one, Dearie.

          • Anonymous

            You really are an odd one. hurry up reply with one of your usual juvenile comments.

    • Anonymous

      Hey Bill, even though we don’t often see eye to eye (except maybe on gun control, veteran rights, and sometimes education), I am glad to see you here. Where is Hozhead? I do not ever read the boring KJ anymore, nor do many other people I know, mainly because they do not let us give our opinions in this type of a format anymore. I am guessing the KJ has taken a huge patronage drop lately. This BDN is my paper now because…1. this is a very good paper and 2. it’s easier here to express our 1st Amendment thoughts. So, Bill, I’m glad we are both here because what fun would a forum like this be, if it were not for people like us, who are usually completely opposed to each other…lol!

    • Anonymous

      Oh so true. Watched Obama smile & lie again about “things we need to do”
      Wait till the 2012 INCOME TAX FORMS come out w/ the OBAMACARE increases for individuals that work for a living. OLD redundant statement that I’ve typed too many times. The country is in a DEPRESSION. Spend, spend, spend for the last four years and unfortunately probably the next four !!

  • Old Bear

    To Bad

  • Anonymous

    Tea Party Paulie and his parrots are something aren’t they? He promised JOBS, JOBS, JOBS…..there are less jobs in Maine today then the day loud mouth LePage took office. He promised prosperity…. Mainers’ personal income is less today then the day Tea Party Paulie and his band of parrots took over Maine government. He promised smaller government yet his budgets have been larger then Baldacci’s. The Maine Constitution requires a balanced budget yet we do not have one. Every time he opens his mouth you can expect to hear something stupid come out of it. He lies to us daily. He has yet to say anything positive about Maine or her people. Remember his lie about colleges giving special test to people from Maine? He calls us idiots, lazy and tells us we have no skills. He blames joblessness on the unemployed. He has been at war with Maine’s less fortunate and weakest almost since the day he took office. In the very first sentence of his inaugural address he promised “People Before Politics” his first big lie. He has embarrassed Maine by his ignorant antics and things he has said not only nationally, but internationally as well. His administration has been a total failure. While the majority of the Nation is recovering from the worst recession since the great depression Maine is going the other way. If only he would follow the lead of that other tea party darling, Sarah Palin and quit. Maine might not be able to take another two years of Tea Party Paulie’s total incompetence.

    • Anonymous

      I just ca’t believe how dumb he is.

      • Anonymous

        He has had a lot of practice.

        • Anonymous

          Fundamentally, if Gov. LePages econmoic theories were sound then his tax cuts would have increased the State’s revenue.

          The fact is that had not happened.

          So what is the problem, really ?

          • Anonymous

            His minders and the people who share the same ideaology.

          • Anonymous

            and the Dems. want to wait and see till it gets worse. What are they going to do about it when they take over, nothing but spend more.

    • StillRelaxin

      Once again the LePage administration shows it’s lack of ability to properly predict, keep track of, or raise the revenues to provide for the basic needs of the citizens of Maine. 2014 can’t arrive too soon!

      • Anonymous

        Baldacci reports were all over the place too.

      • FELT

        The revenue forecasting commission is always looking for experts like you to correct their forecasts; I’m sure with your advanced degrees and experience you’d be a welcome addition…..obviously, they’ve been doing the same dumb forecasts since they were created.

      • Anonymous

        experience matter Newbie R’ s have none and believe their own created myth… make things worse!!! Mayhew —creating a crisis YET again!!

    • Guest

      What’s the matter, you’re not happy with the additional 7,400 private sector jobs that have been created since July, 2011? You prefer going back to the days of Baldacci when 54 jobs were created in 8 years. Give me a break. We all can’t be on the system.

      • Anonymous

        What do you mean I am not happy with 7,400 jobs. If they are actual jobs I would be one of the happiest people on the planet. The problem is that I saw that in an article last week, but as of yet I haven’t been able to find a source to verify that there actually were 7,400 jobs created. Do you have a credible source for the 7,400 jobs because the US Dept. of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn’t show that increase.

        • Anonymous

          You will be waiting a long time!

      • Anonymous

        What 7,400 jobs are you speaking about?

        • Anonymous

          Forget the 7,400 jobs. I miss the days of Baldacci. Toxic sludge heaps in Hampden, Old Town, and East Millinocket, driver’s licenses to illegal tourists who then use them to rent a car, buy a firearm, and rob a bank. The wife of the official on charge of tourism with her “I heart NY” car license plate. And LePage is an embarrassment? Phew. I gotta set my priorities straight.

          • FELT

            Don’t forget CREDIT CARD ECONOMICS….at least MBNA left us nice buildings to piddle around with.

      • Anonymous

        You’ve got to stop telling the truth on this BND comment site!. This site is only for the liberals, leftists, whiners, haters, union sheep, Marxists, and Obamapliles, This site is lousy with the irresponsible and the idle who believe the taxpayer owes them a living and people like you don’t belong here! Get it??

    • Anonymous

      Come on, 4mermainer, you just aren’t being fair…Paulytics has come up with many new jobs: fireworks’ jobs, mural stealing jobs, sign painting jobs, union basher jobs, spokesperson jobs, and of course, many plushy state jobs for his cronies and his daughter!

      • Anonymous

        You know you are right maineilove. Well with the exception of the sign painting jobs, those are done someplace down south.

    • Not true, unemployment has gone down since he has been in office. Stop making stuff up.

      • Anonymous

        I get my facts from the US Dept. of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistic which say that there are less jobs in Maine today then there were on the day LePage took office. Where do you get your ”FACTS” from?

        • FELT

          When LePage took office in January of 2011, the combined labor force, according to BLS statistics was 702,676. In October 2012, this was up to 708,121 for a total increase of 5,445 jobs.

          Not bad; not bad at all!

          • Anonymous

            what does”combined’ labor force mean?

          • Be careful, you might spoil the trolls day with facts.

      • Anonymous

        those “collecting ” unemployment has gone down ; that isn’t the same as saying they HAVE a job now .

    • Anonymous

      Tax the rich!

    • Anonymous

      Curtailments in the face of revenue shortfalls are a fact of life today. Let’s not forget the several instances when our previous Governor imposed spending curtailments to prevent the State’s budgeted resources being prematurely drained.

  • BigPaw

    Maine’s new official drink: Dumb & Koch.

    • Anonymous

      LePage is dumb. dumb, dumb.

      • BigPaw

        Make his a triple !

        • Anonymous

          Maybe it should be called Tool and Koch!

      • FELT

        Call him a retard….I dare you.

  • Anonymous

    Where are the dang jobs? People spend money when they have JOBS~!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Ask the “job creators” what they really did with their income tax cuts.

      • Anonymous

        Deep pockets.

      • Anonymous

        They created jobs with their tax cuts. Banking jobs in the Cayman Islands. Who in their right mind would think that giving people who hoard money more money is going to solve anything?

      • FELT

        Or the ‘tax the rich’ crowd who stabbed Maine’s creative economy in the back with their repeated denials of ‘trickle down’ economics…hundreds of art/craft galleries closed, thousands of artists and crafts people out of work and moving elsewhere and yet they still don’t get it…..reducing the disposable income of their wealthy patrons and buyers hurts them directly.

  • Anonymous

    Fundamentally, if Gov. LePages econmoic theories were sound then his tax cuts would have increased the State’s revenue.

    The fact is that had not happened.

    So what is the problem, really then ?

    • FELT

      I feel you must first balance revenue with expenses; as per the Constitution; then reduce the regulatory burden that stifles new initiatives…..One of the biggest growth industries is ‘permitting’ and there is nothing that takes the fire out of a new enterprise than tens of thousands of dollars of money and up to several years to obtain a permit.

      Reducing taxes only reduces your quarterly and that disposable income can be spent to reduce personal debt depriving the State of revenue. Check out the various revenue categories—-actually the reports and even the methodology are found at http://www.maine.gov/legis/ofpr/revenue_forecasting_committee/current/index.htm so it is easy to see which categories are increasing and which are cyclical, ie. holiday sales, corporate taxes, etc.

      I feel there is a great deal of uncertainty, esp. since our economy is now tied to the global economy and European recession now affects us.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe the state ought to buy a Powerball ticket… Just sayin’

    • Anonymous

      And have LePage and Poliquin manage it? No way.

  • Tom Jones

    How about fireing the head of DHHS, they will as normal come up with another great big millions short.

  • That makes perfect sense – if the money isn’t there, don’t spend it. Why are people objecting to this?

    • Because they have a vested interest in keeping the spending as high as possible in Augusta. That’s the only logical reason. It’s for their personal benefit, in some manner.

      • Anonymous

        Amen.

      • Anonymous

        Lepage cut medicaid And yet they are seeing another $100 million shortfall WHY?? I have an idea

    • Anonymous

      We made the Forbe’s list of 11 “Death Spiral” states yesterday. Seems that we have 107 “takers” for ever 100 “makers”.

      They advise not investing in, or purchasing real estate in “Death Spiral” states. “They can look forward to a rising tax burden, deteriorating state finances and an exodus of employers.”

      So, cutting is bad? It Sounds like it’s the only answer unless we want to drive even more employers out.

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2012/11/25/do-you-live-in-a-death-spiral-state/

      • trisailer

        More “the sky is falling” from the right who want us to believe that our only option is to cooperate with them killing unions and robbing pensions.

        blah, blah, blah.

        Maine voters just defeated the chicken little’s. Let’s hope this new crop has real ideas to solve real problems.

        • FELT

          Is ‘bail out’ one or two words? How about ‘de fault’? Do we take Euro’s yet? Kinda lends a new meaning to TOGA PARTY!

  • What WILL the welfare lovin democrats do now? We taxpayers are broke…your good times are ova! Looks like everyone gets laid off “EQUALLY”!

    • Anonymous

      They will still get their money…..It just won’t come from us anymore. You are absolutely right, we are broke!

    • FELT

      Greece΄s debt remains unsustainable despite short-term relief from this week΄s deal with major creditors, and Athens will probably need some of the principal on its debts reduced eventually, Moody΄s Investors Service said Thursday

  • trisailer

    “Those lower numbers, he said, stem from high energy costs that pushed
    gasoline prices to the $4-a-gallon range earlier this year and
    uncertainty at the federal level over the resolution of the fiscal cliff
    at the end of the year.”

    Yeah…right.

    Not a word about the $150 million dollar tax cut which might have something to do with the revenue shortfall. Where are the jobs that this tax cut for the “job creators” was supposed to produce? How much has the buffoon spent running around the state talking to businesses who keep telling him they need customers?

    This is classic “starve the beast” so the rich are free to wreck the economy, the environment and not have to take any responsibility.

    • Hey ease off on LeBouffon, he gave Kennebunk one of those “friendly to business” awards

  • Anonymous

    Now tell us, Sawin, why is it that revenues are falling short despite your predictions, every other month, of surpluses. Could it be because the middle class isn’t spending, therefore there’s no sales tax coming in? Could it be that the middle class salaries are getting smaller as companies cut things like salaries, benefits, and pensions to improve their bottom line for stockholders and CEOs? Could it really be that trickle-down economics still isn’t working despite 30 plus years of the GOP claiming that is the solution to all of the world’s financial woes? And let’s never mind the fact that state budget numbers have failed to balance since the day the GOP took over and yet they cover up with lies, disinformation, and still more lies.

  • When obama keeps printing money and devalues the dollar and continues in raising taxes …this is what happens! You cannot keep piling on more debt! It’s coming folks…you can’t keep kicking the can down the road!

    • trisailer

      Except Obama is not raising taxes. He’s restoring them back to the level they were when the rich were already paying less than any other industrial country. He’s restoring them because not a single job was created out of the trillion dollar tax cuts and all the 1% are doing is mining the value of existing business and shipping the cash offshore.

      • Anonymous

        he aint doing squat!

        • Well, he DID send another $147 million to Hamas a couple days ago.

          • trisailer

            Don’t know what that has to do with taxes, or state budgets.

            I went 10 pages deep in Google and everyone is reprinting this claim by breibart guess we’ll have to wait to see if the claim is legit.

          • Anonymous

            prove it. And don’t bother with beitbart. nothing but a scandal sheet.

          • Anonymous

            and how much did BUSH give?

    • FELT

      We are all Greeks now…TOGA TOGA TOGA!

  • Anonymous

    Seems Democrats want to wait till everything flounders. But, alas they will get in there and want to spend more money we don’t have.

  • Anonymous

    This is announced the day Gov. LePage says he plans to spend money on Richard Rosen and Peter Rogers (already spending money on him) to create yet another office with employees to look for ways to cut the budget — but their directive is to look for $1 million in savings, from what I’ve read. How much is it going to cost to save that amount? Certainly not cost efficient move..

  • Lord Whiteman

    The previous Democratic run state budget was 5.8 billion and it was balanced. Lepage’s current budget is 6.3 billion and it’s hundreds of millions in the red. Plus Lepage has increased state borrowing so much our credit rating is ruined.
    I haven’t even included all the sneaky “off budget” gimmicks Lepage used to justify his massive spending spree.

  • Anonymous

    No Jobs and Slave Wage Jobs. No wonder the state is broke. You cant tax someone already in poverty.

    • Anonymous

      I think you pretty much nailed it.

  • Anonymous

    We need to ship more decent paying manufacturing jobs to China and replace them with more big box jobs and their “public assistance” wages. That should help. Buy American and do it now, it is literally the only chance we have to turn things around.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think we will see too many new jobs in this State or any other State until people start to give up the high wages and high benifits. To do this prices will have to come down, automation will have to slow and the US will have to quit trying to support the world just by printing money that is no good.

  • trisailer

    I think that improvement is coming. I don’t know why we’re not talking about some sort of CETA program so people who want to learn a new skill can do so. The governor talked about the need for skilled crafts people, but what is he doing about it?

  • Anonymous

    State shortfalls why?56% just in this state believe it is OK to extort their working neighbors,Increase government dependency and decrease self reliance.60% of young women believe the working class should support FLUKE insurance. Thinking somehow that everyone is responsible for their promiscuity.Working Americans are now asked to support drug habits also the transportation to and from the government backed crack house.Somehow employers are now suppose to be life coach’s and are greedy if the company makes any profit.We all know profits should be spread to all employees so owners can stand in unemployment lines.The biggest topper to all the reasons for shortfalls now and future.The architect of this mess got reelected.There is no incentive to prosper, mediocre is the new America.

  • Anonymous

    I can see where all the big business and corporate tax cuts are really helping the economy with job creation and making things better,perish the thought of not creating new positions to keep long time lawmakers and family members drawing a paycheck at the peoples expense.Does the phrase “NO NEW TAXES”seem to lose its meaning for the middle class yet.

  • Anonymous

    OOPS…and in the PPH -DHHS is reporting another $100 million shortfall .it’s not clear where that is coming from

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