Comments for: Roles of coaches, chaperones in Dexter hazing incident being investigated by school

Posted Nov. 27, 2012, at 5:39 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 28, 2012, at 2:19 p.m.

DEXTER | Twelve players of Dexter Regional High School’s football team have been suspended for an alleged hazing incident, but the role supervising adults played is still being investigated, according to AOS 94 Superintendent Kevin Jordan. “We’re reviewing what the coaches’ and chaperones’ roles were in the whole incident,” …

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  • Pedro

    The whole thing was handled poorly by the students, the coaches, and the administration. Kids got suspended the head coach is most likely going to get fired but nothing will happen to the administration who allowed the whole thing to even take place at the high school. In the age of things like this and the penn st. scandal happening all over the country there should never be an overnight event taking place at a high school, even if it is suppose to be a fun night for the kids. Just putting it out there.

    • Anonymous

      Pedro,

      Disagree that the event should not have happened. The event was not properly monitored and with that I am sure changes can be made to guarantee the safety and well being of the students. But in todays politically correct society and trying to be everything to everybody and make sure little Johnny and Susie never has hurt feelings I would not be surprised to end a team bonding exericse that could be very beneficial to all the teamates. Next, watch Project graduation lockins be effected.

      I am not condonning this incident or any hazing and I am certain that going forward the Dexter School adminstration will make sure of that. But to think that criminal charges are possible is wrong. These were good kids who made bad decisions. Remember these are football players which is the ultimate contact sport where rewards are made for being able to hit opponent with every last ounce of energy.

      • Pedro

        Just because they are good kids and football players doesn’t give them the right to haze people even if they were hazed when they were freshman. Criminal charges may be filled and I believed that they were not punished enough, so that might be a good thing. But the school should also be sued if the kids are because they provided the place for the crime. If you think that only the kids should be punished I don’t agree with you. Everyone should be punished, from the administration that allowed them to use the school, the poor supervision by the coaches, and the kids for hazing.

      • shygirl4

        They were all good kids and sometimes even good kids have poor judgement and make mistakes. We are all human. Hopefully all kids involved (especially the boys that did the hazing) learn a valuable lesson and I am sure their intent was not to maliciously harm anyone. They thought it was all in fun and no intent to hurt them the way media is saying they did

        • Anonymous

          Well said, shygirl4.

        • Anonymous

          you know “paddling” IS intended to harm ( and humiliate) people, right?? Seriously? Something is wrong with you ( and others) for condoning this .It’s called BULLYING those younger then you.

      • Anonymous

        “I would not be surprised to end a team bonding exericse that could be very beneficial to all the teamates. ” Paddling” is a team bonding exercise that is beneficial?? How exactly?

    • Anonymous

      Pedro – I agree. I would like to add that as a parent, I would not have allowed my child to attend at all. The parents also should accept some of the responsbility. Sleep overs for this amount of people in a situation like this is just asking for problems.

  • StillRelaxin

    A sleepover with a bunch of H.S. football players, now who’d a thunk that there would be any problems with that? Clearly a dumb idea made dumber by providing shoddy (if any really) supervision. Thinking about it, I also have to ask who the heck would participate in such an event? I’m pretty sure that had I heard this proposed when I was in H.S. I’d have laughed and told those involved that I had prior commitments…like doing my homework or playing cards with my grandparents.

    • Pedro

      I agree with you that it was a dumb idea but looking back at it as a kid why wouldn’t you want to hang out with your friends for a night. It should be the adults (the administration) that allowed the whole thing to happen that should get the blame, not the kids. Because all it takes is good people put into a bad situation for something bad to happen.

      • StillRelaxin

        I’d have taken a pass for an assortment of reasons. Primarily because it immediately sounds like a silly idea that would have led to very few moments of enjoyment and great potential for yuck yuck stupidity. Sure, I had friends on the team, but not all of them were my buddies. In my time there were 40-50 kids on the team and quite frankly some of them creeped me out even more than my coach who I always believed was a tad bit off in the area of mental stability. Good people should have looked whoever came up with this idea of putting kids in a bad situation in the eye and said, “Your kidding right?”

        • Anonymous

          Have to agree, Still. I always think of sleepovers as something for teenie-bopper girls. The person who proposed this should be looked at very, very carefully.

          • StillRelaxin

            Yesterday I asked a few H.S. football players in my new hometown if they would attend a sleepover with their team at their school and they both reacted as I would have predicted. They laughed and asked, “Why would anyone do that?” I responded, by telling them what happened up in Dexter. Their response to that, “wow there’s some really sick puppies up their in Dexter huh?” I responded, “well perhaps a might bit misguided” and went on to another topic.

    • shygirl4

      Yeah, lets see here. A choice of doing homework or hanging with friends for the night…hmmm..really? Come on. Most kids would pick hanging with friends, your obviously not a parent.

      • StillRelaxin

        Right, nothing more fun for a H.S. football player than slipping into his jammies to spend a night of duck-duck goose in the gym with a few close friends and 30+ guys he’d likely prefer not to know. Is there any wonder this group of geniuses came up with a more exciting activity on their own? The only things that surprise me about this whole story is, 1. Players actually attended such a silly function, and 2. Some adult(s) thought such a gathering of teenage boys would likely go smoothly and require only minimum supervision. Clearly there wasn’t a lot of deep thinking going on up there in Dexter before, during, or after this event.

    • Anonymous

      This should fall squarely on the shoulders of the Principal, who is responsible for what happens in the school.

      • So teenagers are not responsible for their own actions? This is what is wrong. People who think other people are responsible for the actions of others.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like the pressure of the public and possibly the parents of those injured may have put enough pressure to continue the investigations. Yes the kids involved should are are being held responsible but it is a known fact that teenage boys brains don’t have the ability to reason what is always right and wrong. The front part of their brain that holds this ability usually fully forms in their 20’s. Therefore the real consequences should be harsher for the chaperones and coaches who were suppose to monitor them, We all know hazing has gone on for years, but we also know that these incidents can get out of hand really quickly and at times have been fatal. To some this sounds so harmless but it is never that. How do you know these freshmen don’t have some sort of mental condition that causes depression, anxiety or many other possibilities that hold long term effects from this incident. Many rumors whether true or not have come out of this school about inappropriate behavior and those too should be investigated at this point. What could be thought of as a rumor should be looked at for the sake of our children’s safety in a setting where they should be as safe if not safer than their own home. Bullying is bullying whether it is physical, mental or emotional and our children deserve to be allowed to live their teenage lives in a way that they safe and in an atmosphere of learning free of any harm. Today’s world is no different than those of years gone by with bullying, sexual, mental and physical abuse it is just now not the shameful ghost in the closet of years past. It was horrible back then and is horrible now and the only way to help our kids is to stay on top of these behaviors and hold all accountable for their actions. Again best wishes to all the innocent and may all the accountable parties pay a big enough price that they get it was not only wrong but possibly criminal and justice must be served for tomorrows kids.Every child saved from abuse is an innocent soul who may grow up to do great things in their life. Every innocent child abused could be a child who either does not get to grow up and we will never know what their potential was. I have no kids but trust if I saw an abusive situation happening for a child God Bless the perpetrator for I will not stand by and let it happen with or without the law.A side note I read yesterdays comments that said all the kids there who did or said nothing should be accountable that is so silly, They knew not what to do for the ability to reason this is outside of their control and the adults there are the most accountable for they are the ones who should keep our kids safe whether it is school day or night activities. After all isn’t that the role of a chaperone? teacher? clergyman? etc. Sad but true who do really trust with our precious children? We just don’t know anymore.

    • Anonymous

      The old “they are only kids, so blame the adults” defense ? I don’t know of ANY kid who doesn’t know hitting and hazing is wrong . Bet they have a n anti bullying curriculum..Yes good kids make bad decisions MOST good kids know a bad decision when they see it. They are still bad decisions.

    • Anonymous

      The brain not being fully formed until our twenties,24 actually, is true. But if we used that as an excuse to allow all kids to beat each other up we would be in big trouble. Using the premise of the brain not being fully developed should then warrant changes in laws. No driving a car until you are 24. No drinking,voting,marrying,joining the service, working etc. until you are 24.But we don’t need to change the age laws do we? Because decent kids do not beat people up!

  • Anonymous

    This would be felony assault and kidnapping if done by adults. But, you know, a little time on the bench will teach these kids. Yeah.

    • shygirl4

      This was not done by adults though, they are children that made poor choices. I am sure we all have made a bad choice once or twice in our lives.

      • Anonymous

        We’ve all made bad choices in our lives, so why so tough on these nice teens? Oh, wait a minute. Nice teens do not physically beat other teens.

      • Anonymous

        I have always know hitting was wrong as a child AND as an adult..

      • Anonymous

        Children? These were not 2nd or 3rd graders, most of them are seniors. Scares me a little to think that these “Children” as you call them will be on their own and getting a say in how this country is run within the next year.

  • illhookyouup

    the administration should be investigated as well, they are just as guilty for approving the event to take place. I feel bad for the coaching staff for being blamed for everything. As far as I am concerned the seniors who were involved should be charged as adults, they are close enough to being 18 and if they want to do something that stupid they need to receive a serious punishment. Suspending them accomplishes nothing, It is a free vacation to them they are just gonna sit at home and play video games, the four should receive at least 200 hours of community service and no sports. High School athletes are suposed to set a good example for the underclassmen and they have all proven that they are incapable of doing so

    • shygirl4

      You want to assume that they are home playing video games..again speculating without knowing the facts.

  • Anonymous

    How about a new title for this story, Dexter Athletics Runs Amuck. So basically we will have two great coaches fired or forced to resign in two fall sports. Teachers are still great, kids will be kids but in general are good eggs, and the community is kind and considerate. Why bother having an athletic director if all that surrounds him is chaos?

    • Anonymous

      “Great Coaches” wouldn’t have been part of this. “Great Coaches” would have properly supervised this.

      • shygirl4

        These were great coaches. Yes, they should of been better supervised but, you can’t watch every move kids make either.

        • Anonymous

          I good guess is that this “hazing” has happened in years past. Same coaches? i dunno, same AD? Dunno. But I’m sure this has been a tradition with this team. The problem with these “traditions” is they have a tendency to escalate. The seniors do a little more to the freshmen than the previous ones. Blame? chances are Admin/AD/Coaches and students will get each their own share.

          KEEP in mind what you’re reading in the paper is not all that happened, or what you’re reading is not at all accurate. Once the investigation starts the school can’t/shouldn’t comment., by law. Students/employees are under confidentiality protection.

    • asportsfan

      Will you let it go? We get it. You’re a field hockey person with an axe to grind. This is not about field hockey or if the coach was right or wrong. It’s about football.

      • Anonymous

        It is not about a specific sport, Dexter has a fine tradition of sportsmanship, winning and great athletes who move on in life to positively impact the greater good. It would be a shame if these traditions built over many years, were to be lost due to one or two bad administrators.

        • asportsfan

          Dexter still has winning programs and good athletes, regardless of what you think.

    • shygirl4

      Nicely said! I totally agree with you.

  • Ben Hutchins

    “Those students have been disciplined.” From the sound of things, that was the problem in the FIRST place! BOOM! I’m here all week. Tip your waitress! She works hard!

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t a big deal but people sure are trying to make it one. I bet the kids that got hazed could care less. I predict one kid got the worst of it and ratted on the whole school. But mommy and daddy will take the kid home, coddle them, bring the kid to numerous doctors appointments to build up a case to sue the school.

    Hazing is a voluntary act between two parties. If not, it would be considered a fight and assault charges could be filed.

    The freshmen that rush the greek frats and sororities know hazing will happen and must participate to join the brother/sisterhood. Then they know it will be their turn next time. I was at a couple of sorority parties when those girls had to do some pretty crazy and disgusting things to call themselves a “sister”. If I told you some of what I saw most wouldn’t believe it. There was no video cameras on phones, heck there weren’t even phones back then.

    Good luck kids and faculty, don’t let it wear on ya.

    The thing about today’s news is that is has about a 24 hour shelf life, then we are on to the next drama of the day.

    • Anonymous

      Since you hazing is a voluntary act between the victim and perpetrator OK I get it. But the original article said students were held down forcibly and beaten with a plastic bat which sounds more like an assault than act of what you feel is acceptable. Well we have all heard that more and more frats and sororities don’t see it that way and it is actually against the majority of the conduct of ethics. Hazing is a crime no matter what and when a hazing incident results death or serious harm that is not an innocent fun act it is a crime. Young people form their opinions on what is acceptable or not based on adults behaviors and attitudes and until adults change their ways there will always be young people who are physically, emotionally and mentally tortured and some to the point of suicide or future violence. We as adults must all stand up and help tomorrows future to learn the right way to act towards others or else the crime that is out of hand now may be the norm that affects you and or your loved ones. Please reconsider your thoughts on this and if not please don’t condone bad behavior. But no matter what your opinion is yours and if in your mind is acceptable I only hope you never feel the pain of the results of what at the time seemed like innocent fun.

      • Anonymous

        Interesting opinion you have there and good for you. Although I occasionally disagree with your posts I can see you believe strongly and I respect that. I do agree with a few of your comments but I loved what you wrote here …

        Aroostooklauri wrote:
        “We as adults must all stand up and help tomorrows future to learn the
        right way to act towards others or else the crime that is out of hand
        now may be the norm that affects you and or your loved ones”.

        So SO true. I think of Benghazi,and wonder if we will repeat such horrific crimes or will we learn how to save our own even when begged for help.

        I plan to keep the above quote you wrote AroostookLaurie because other then some of mine, it ranks right up there with one of the best I have ever read.

    • Anonymous

      It was on video tape!!!

  • shygirl4

    Just so people know, just because someone talks to the paper about something that he or she heard because they have “friends” that work at the school, doesn’t mean it is the truth. Most of what that 1990 graduate is saying is hear say. He was not there and doesn’t know what really happened. Yes, It is a sad situation that happened. Hazing should not be allowed and yes it has gone on for many years, right or wrong, these kids were good kids that made poor choices. The freshmen were not held down against their will and beaten with hockey sticks and bloodied. These kids were all friends and still are. Parents caught wind of this and got upset (in which I don’t blame them) the boys that this happened to are upset that their parents took it as far as they have. These boys did make a bad choice but it still happened. All kids were questioned and asked if they were fearful of their lives and afraid to go to school and they all said no. It’s the parents pushing this and probably to try to sue the school and I am not saying that they have no right to be upset but, anyone could be on the receiving end where a child that they have made a bad choice and people want to go over the top with this. Most of the boys that did this, are good kids and have been looked up to in the community and don’t have a bad reputation. It is a surprise to many people that some of the individuals involved were involved as it is because they know that it is out of their character and that they are not bad kids. So lets charge them criminally because of a bad choice they made? Lets ruin their young lives from a poor choice in judgement? Come on? Some of these kids that did get suspended and have to be away from sports for the time that they do, that is totally killing them. They got 20 days, not 10. You can be a good parent and still going to have kids that make bad choices. Those are life lessons that they need to learn from. Funny how some of the parents didn’t want to press charges in the beginning when asked until they heard what kind of punishment was handed down and now they want to charge these kids? Really?? It is a sad situation and should be looked at from all angles. It is sad that people like to spread rumors and run to the paper when they don’t have all of the facts and thrive off of the pain of others.

    • Anonymous

      Well said, shygirl4. (Oh why oh why, must you be so shy? giggle) The point here is that these are not bad kids, they are promising students with bright futures. What this should boil down is nothing more than a simple lesson, probably restrictions on these type of events being the only correction needed in the future. In no way does anyone in their right mind want to impose such punishment as to ruin these bright young individuals for life. Wouldn’t that go against what is wanted for these students? Also, these are great football players. They have been hit a few times before, much worse. Should we impose restrictions on the game of football and make it a no-collision sport? I think not. These players are serious about what they are doing in life, and this is a team. A team bonds, maybe in football it can be a little crazy, maybe not. Let’s move on as a society and protect (not destroy) these students and their futures.

      • Anonymous

        worried about johnny losing his scholarship or college entrance?

    • Anonymous

      well then lets’s see the videos and let the public decide for themselves..

  • Anonymous

    I think this is a very small indecent that is being blown out of proportion. Kids are kids. I am not saying what was done is OK, just that it should not be two and three day front line news.

    • Anonymous

      sadly, this story has legs….expect the media to get all they can out of it.

      • shygirl4

        Then in a few days, the media will move onto something else

  • Ok, dumb move kids and bad judgment by the organizers…though criminal charges? Come now.

  • OMG there are so many more important things going on in high schools than this. Lets talk about the drugs, the kids who are failing, the thousands on SSI because their parents tell them to flunk to get a diagnosis and a check. This is what HS football players do.

    • Yvonne Bateman

      I agree with you jersey….The drugs in schools are bad as well…..My comment though is what about when kids go to their friends houses do we as parents know exactly what they are doing…( not always) and we know how kids can be when they are with their friends….I am not saying this was ok…..

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