September 22, 2017
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  • Rocky4

    So he is a “nice” person. What the hell does that have to do with
    anything. Most people are nice. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t make a mistake
    Those three dead people were probably nice too.

    • Randall Flagg

      i’m not very nice

      • Anonymous

        Me either, and in my experience most people do not have friends who will vouch for them after a tragedy.

  • Rich Binekey

    Yes, he probably is a nice person. All that aside, there is NO EXCUSE for a runway incursion. As a pilot and Supervisor of Flying in the Air Force, we are trained to never go on an active runway without clearance, and if operating at an uncontrolled field like he was, listening CAREFULLY to the common frequency and simply being careful to LOOK before crossing an active runway. This is cut and dry negligence on his part and it cost the lives of three young men.

    • Anonymous

      You weren’t there! Don’t you think it unfair to make that assumption when you don’t have all the facts? I don’t give a rat’s butt if you are a flyboy! I wouldn’t ride with you.

      • Anonymous

        Too bad you could learn a lot about flying from Rich. He was also a former Wing flying safety officer….. This tragedy happened on a RUNWAY (for airplanes) not a FREEWAY or HIGHWAY (for trucks).
        At an uncontrolled field the pilot is not required to make a radio call or even have one installed and does not have to land in to the wind if he so desires, i.e. crosswind training etc.

      • Anonymous

        this forum is for factless assumptions,why be suprised?

      • Anonymous

        Why so defensive? There is no need for your type of rudeness!

    • Guest

      This is a short runway, uncontrolled field as you said. I have seen no indication that the pilot radioed in before takeoff or did a pre-flight check.

      • Anonymous

        HUH? So you think the pilot was at fault? Why do you think he did or didn’t do a “pre-flight” check. What do you think a pre-flight is for? A pre-flight check will not prevent someone driving a pickup truck onto the runway. This is NOT pilot error, the truck shouldn’t have been there. Also, the shortest runway at Knox is 4,000 long–that’s about 3 times as much length for take-off than a Cessna 172 needs.

      • Anonymous

        Its an advisory call at an uncontrolled field, the ultimate responsibility lies with the vehicle on the ground.

    • Anonymous

      As an Air Force pilot, when was the last time that you flew into an uncontrolled airport? Ever? A lot happens outside of the world of military aviation and at small airfields around the country that you would never see. There is a real world out there that doesn’t involve the structure of the Air Force. Tragedy yes, cut and dry negligence, maybe/probably not.

    • Anonymous

      Nice people sometimes have to spend a lot of time in jail! You can still be nice there! Rah rah accountability!

  • Anonymous

    Waters said ” what may have contributed to it” , truck on runway just might be the cause. It is the responsibility of a vehicle on an active runway to make sure that it was safe for him to be there. Tragic for all involved.

    • Anonymous

      Good to know that you are an expert of right of ways. Is it not the pilot’s responsibility to make sure the runway is clear? I think all should wait and see who was at fault. Not fair to all involved to judge until the facts are in.

      • Anonymous

        The problem is there is only one side of the story that will be told now.
        This man should just state the truth about what happened and do it soon!

      • Anonymous

        The runway was likely clear when the pilot started his take-off roll. The truck would not have been parked there. When the plane rotates, or takes off, the cockpit visibility is limited because of the nose-up attitude. That was the critical point because the plane did get airborne. Well meaning people seem to think the pilot was at fault. Bottom line–a truck was on the runway when it shouldn’t have been.

        • Anonymous

          I never implied that anyone was at fault. I am old enough and have been around enough to know it is better to leave things like this to the people who are the investigators. Anything else is just speculation and does no good to anyone. There are at least 4 people involved in this. The driver of the truck and the 3 dead students. How would you like to be that driver and read this/ How would you like to be a close relative of one of the dead and read this? None of us were there and none of us can really say what happened. All we can do is make the survivors feel worse. Better to say nothing at all.

      • Anonymous

        I think that since I have been a pilot, i do have some knowledge. Thank You

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, so was the pilot. Completing his master’s at Umaine, just got a pilot slot with Guard.

  • Anonymous

    Being a “nice” person is obviously NOT the issue. Does anyone suggest that this tragedy did not involve decent people? Should the investigation determine that the truck driver was at fault, will the defense use Turner’s being “nice”? I doubt it. Who would?

  • Anonymous

    They allow people to DRIVE ACROSS THE RUNWAY at this airport??? That seems a bit far fetched to me. That would be an accident waiting to happen….and it did.

    • Anonymous

      Under certain conditions, authorized vehicles are allowed to cross runways at Kennedy, Logan and Newark.

  • Anonymous

    Radioing that you are going to cross a runway where a plane is already in takeoff doesn’t seem like it should absolve you from responsibility.
    To all appearances, the driver of the truck got careless, and drove onto a runway where a plane was already accelerating for takeoff. If he did anything different, he should clearly state it.
    A plane taking off on a runway has the right of way.

    Unfortunately, as with driving, right of way doesn’t protect you from what others might choose to do.

    • Matthew Desmond

      I would say that responsibility could be shared in this. If the pilot didn’t report he was taking off and the driver of the truck didn’t report he was driving across the runway…people always laugh at me because I take an extra few seconds to double check something…but that extra few seconds can as in this case, be the difference between life and death…

  • Anonymous

    I hope he has lots of insurance, he’s going to need it!

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t we just see something like this on tv last week?

  • PaulNotBunyan

    The reporter should have asked Waters if he noticed any lights on that airplane. At 4:45 PM I think the plane would have to have lights on to be seen in time by anyone crossing the runway.

    • Anonymous

      A plane has a “headlight”, plus other lights–the pilot would need a light to taxi and roll down the runway. The ONLY problem here is that the truck was on the runway.

      • PaulNotBunyan

        It’s the marker lights that should always be on when the aircraft is on taxiways and runways. Some of those landing lights could make it harder to see up ahead during takeoff. What the pilot “needs” depends somewhat on the airport lighting.

  • Alcohol?

  • Anonymous

    Seems pointless to debate this before the investigation is complete.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you have a bunch of evil freaks with whom to convene in Vegas?

    • Randall Flagg

      not enough…all of you are welcome here as long as you loathe the bangor daily

  • Anonymous

    So one story says the plane struck the truck, and this one claims the truck struck the plane.
    Guess I’ll wait till someone who knows what happened writes a story… although that one probably won’t be in the BDN.

  • Anonymous

    This is a good article to block all comments on. Am sure Mr. Turner and others feel bad enough already. :(

  • Anonymous

    3 charges of Manslaughter coming?

  • tedcohen

    Can ANYONE explain why Turner was driving a truck across the runway?

  • Ben Hutchins

    Well, that’s nice and all, but whether he’s a “great person” isn’t really at issue here. There’s no law of physics says a great person can’t have zigged when he should’ve zagged. That’s why we rely on accident investigators in cases like this and not, well, character witnesses.

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