Comments for: Bangor police respond to domestic disturbance complaint, find man’s body

Posted Nov. 13, 2012, at 2:55 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 13, 2012, at 8:43 p.m.

BANGOR | Bangor police said they discovered the body of an adult male in a Bolling Drive home late Tuesday afternoon after responding hours earlier to a report of a man with a gun involved in a domestic dispute with his wife. Police and the department’s Special Response Tactical …

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  • Anonymous

    Bolling Drive?  where last month a woman left her two children behind while she and her boyfriend went out carousing? 

    This country learns NOTHING from history, even fairly recent history.  Pruitt–Igoe, Cabrini Green, Great Brook Valley, and Kennedy Park (both Portland and Lewiston)  clearly demonstrate the stupidity of gathering up a bunch of poor folks and placing them in one area. .

    • Anonymous

      funny how always the same street’s come up all the time, but anyone who say’s it is a bigot whatever.you are correct but the left know what’s good for us it add’s diversity (sarcasm)

      • Anonymous

        There are refresher courses for grammar,etc.

      • BJ Kitchin

        You do realize most of bolling drive is privately owned units, AKA middle class “smart folk.” Are you sure this was your “So called poor” folk acting stupidly? Perhaps stupid is as stupid writes in the comments section of the BDN.

    • Frankie

      It’s called low income housing.  What do you suggest, some kind of equal distribution of poor folk around the city?  And, as much as you would like to believe (make the assumption) that the individuals involved in this incident are so involved because of their financial stature, yeah….assumption.

    • Anonymous

      Wasn’t it you last  week that said that the area smells and you dislike coming here. Have you no area in your town that has subsidized housing for you to worry about?

    • Bolling Dr. is where those 3 people were before they got murdered, right?

  • again……

  • Anonymous

    Wow, that is a GREAT part of town. Something to be proud of right there. . . 

    • Anonymous

       After the redistribution this will be park avenue.

  • Anonymous

    Edited: It is not Bangor Housing Authority property..

    • Anonymous

      Boiling Drive is in the area where some people call it New Capehart. Which is not owned by Bangor Housing. The buildings are owned by private owners and some of them are owned or runned by Park Woods which is runned by the City of Bangor. The other stand off was on Dirigo Drive in the area people call Old Capehart. Which is runned by Bangor Housing. It was in the Greenfield Apts. 

      • County Escapee

        runned?

        • Anonymous

          Excuse me operated by…

          • Anonymous

            Regardless of who owns the buildings, it is no secret that this is a rough part of town.  It would be better for ALL involved (including families that are working hard and having tough times, and those that are not renting from subsidized apartments) if the level of subsidized housing in that particular area were redistributed and dispersed through other areas of the city.  

          • Anonymous

            Rather it is in that area or not…the reality of it is…there is a standoff….with many innocent people around in a heavy populated area, a shopping center near by, and etc….so let’s hope no one gets hurt….and it is over with soon. Many children and families can not go home right now. And again many children are wondering what is going on. 

          • Anonymous

             The reality is that part of town is a s–thole and if people are worried about the many children and families who can’t go home…maybe they shouldn’t live in a s–thole part of town.

          • Anonymous

            If you want to talk rough you should go over to First, Second, and Third St and lower Ohio and  Hammond and Center St, Essex, and Cumberland.  It just isn’t Capehart that is for sure.

          • County Escapee

            More simply “is run by….” :)

      • Anonymous

        runned is not a word.

        • Anonymous

          you understand TJ’s point, quit making a big deal out of grammar.

          • Anonymous

            Its still a crap part of town regardless of who runned it.

          • Anonymous

            I agree. George W Bush never made a big deal about poor grammar. What’s good for Junior is gooder enough for me.

    • Anonymous

       You should probably check your facts before stating something as truth. Bolling Drive and the surrounding area are all privately owned buildings-there are several dozen landlords. There is one small part across from the Airport Mall that is run by the city, but it’s not managed by Bangor Housing. As for Old Capehart, where the last stand off occurred, about half of the area is subsidized housing. The other half consists of unsubsidized apartments and privately owned homes. The stand-off was in an unsubsidized area of the community.

      The ignorance of statements such as yours only only serve to enhance the negative image of the people who live and work in these communities. Not every poor person is mooching the system, and not every domestic disturbance occurs in a poor family.

      • Anonymous

        Exactly!

      • Anonymous

        You are correct but poor people aren’t doing things EXACTLY the way far right conservatives see fit.

  • Anonymous

    I pray the people involved are rescued before the disturbance turns to multiple loss of lives.

  • Anonymous

    What?  A domestic disturbance on Bolling Drive?….who would have thought?

    • Anonymous

      HAHAHA that’s funny.don’t forget first street we must be liberal equal time.

      • Anonymous

        Actually my 2nd guess would have been Ohio St.

        • Anonymous

          you got me there good one.

          • Anonymous

            Pine st is quaint place as well….

        • Anonymous

          My 3rd guess would have been a certain section of Essex Street.

          • ann

            green house on the corner

    • Andre Linoge

      eyy i live en boilling draive u shuld b ashaymed uf urself

    • Guest

      Why? Because there are only poor people living there? What an assumption.

  • Anonymous

    And people this could happen anywhere in Bangor, Brewer, or surrounding areas, in the city, in the country….violence, drugs, and etc are everywhere…get a grip people….stop attaching a stigma to it all. How about you worry about the people involved and in the surrounding area!

    • Anonymous

      it will if we dont cancel the welcome wagon.bangor brewer will become a suburb of lewiston not joking.

      • Anonymous

        just like portland is a suburb of boston

        • Anonymous

          Yup! you got that right lock and load get ready it is headed this way.and get your cwp.

          • Anonymous

            CFP, Just Saying.

          • Anonymous

            it is ccp if you want to make a big deal of it. don’t miss the point, thank you.

        • Anonymous

          What’s so bad about that?

    • That neighborhood dating back 20 years has always had its problems so if the people in the surrounding area choose to live there it is there choice.

      • Anonymous

        And if it happened in your area….which is could….then you chose to live there? Please….get a grip! 

        • My neighborhood is more involved and wouldn’t allow that to happen! I enjoy the piece and quiet where I live and still feel comfortable leaving the keys in my car along with doors unlocked…. We have a neighborhood watch and have had a 0 crime rate for the past 3 years other than the occasional speeder or drunk driver

    • Anonymous

      Yeah it could happen anywhere.  BUT it dosen’t.  It happens on Bolling drive and the surrounding area over and over.  Time to stop the P.C. clap-trap and address the truth.  Police spend an inordenant amount of time and resources on Bolling Drive. That’s our money they are spending.

      Here’s a short list.  There’s  lots more.  

      Oct 16

      BANGOR, Maine — An anonymous caller notified police
      last week that a Bangor woman had left her two children home alone, and police
      arrested and charged the mother when she arrived home, Bangor police Sgt. Paul
      Edwards said on Monday.

      Shannon M. Bragg, 33, was charged with endangering
      the welfare of a child at about 9 a.m. Oct. 9 after police went to her Bolling
      Drive residence at 6 a.m. and discovered the children alone, the sergeant said.

       Sept 13

      BANGOR, Maine — The Maine Drug Enforcement Agency on Wednesday
      arrested a Bangor man and a man from New York on felony drug trafficking
      charges after a surveillance operation on Bolling Drive. Jeramie Schell, 35, of
      Bangor was charged with felony trafficking in oxycodone and unrelated arrest
      warrants,

      Sept 10

      BANGOR, Maine — A search of Chaput “turned up some of the
      stolen property — lottery tickets, cigarettes, cash — and he also has a Ziploc
      baggie with a white powdery substance” that turned out to be heroin, Edwards
      said.

      Pelkey got a copy of the store’s video surveillance images
      and recognized the man on the video as Chaput, who, he dealt with at about 3
      a.m. while investigating a domestic violence call on Bolling Drive.

      July 09

      BANGOR, Maine — A man described by police as a
      transient is facing a Class C felony burglary charge after he allegedly stole
      prescription drugs, cash and a cellphone from the home of a Bangor resident who
      took him and his girlfriend in because they had no place to go.

      Eric Ducas, 25, also has been charged with theft,
      Bangor police Sgt. Paul Edwards said Monday, citing an arrest report.

      Edwards said that Bangor police received a
      complaint earlier this month from a Bolling Drive resident who said that he had
      allowed Ducas and his girlfriend to stay at his home for a few weeks in June
      and July because they were homeless. The visit, however, “wasn’t working out”
      because the couple argued a great deal and the resident asked them to leave.

      April 24

      BANGOR, Maine — A Piscataquis County man whose wife
      had a protection order against him was arrested Monday for allegedly hitting
      her, according to police.

      Eugene Farnham, 31, who has multiple charges on his
      record according to Bangor Daily News archives, went to the woman’s Bolling
      Drive residence, got into an argument with her and hit her, Bangor police Sgt.
      Paul Edwards said.

       

      April 16

      BANGOR, Maine — Construction workers at Mary Snow
      School returned to work Monday morning to find some of their equipment missing,
      and the crime was one of nine burglaries reported over the weekend, Bangor
      police Sgt. Paul Edwards said Monday.

      “That’s a lot for a weekend,” the sergeant said,
      adding it appears the break-ins are not connected. “There are a number of
      burglaries under investigation at a couple of businesses and residences.”

      The first burglary was reported on Bolling Drive
      just before midnight Friday and Bangor responded to two reports of business
      burglaries Monday morning, Edwards said.

      Aug. 22

      BANGOR, Maine — Someone on Bolling Drive called police early
      Saturday morning to report a man in the street with an assault rifle and police
      later charged a local man with felony criminal threatening with a dangerous
      weapon, Sgt. Paul Edwards said.

       
      August 15

      BANGOR, Maine — A local man who in June became the
      first person in Maine charged with operating under the influence as a result of
      using the synthetic drug bath salts was arrested Sunday after he consumed the
      drug again and grabbed an officer’s gun, police said.

      Bangor police Officers Eric Tourtelotte and Kevin
      MacLaren went to Mitchell Street at around 10 a.m. Sunday to investigate the
      report of a domestic dispute.

      “A witness stated that a Christopher Buzzell, 27,
      of Bangor was on bath salts and has ‘lost it,’” Sgt. Paul Edwards said Monday.

      Buzzell took off on foot down Bolling Drive and
      refused to stop for MacLaren, who used a Taser to subdue him. Buzzell was taken
      to the emergency room at Eastern Maine Medical Center.

       

      • Anonymous

        YUP!

      • Anonymous

        I agree however you’re using articles and the BDN doens’t even come close to reporting all of the incidents BPD deals with. There are other ares of the city that are far worse.. 

      • Anonymous

        “That’s our money they are spending?” Where do you live?

    • Anonymous

       Because Capehart and surrounding area have always been a bit more crimey than the rest of the city. 

  • Bowling drive isn’t that where the party was the night dan borders and friends were murdered?

    • Anonymous

      Same street yes….but down the road…what is your point…what if it happened next to you….even if you lived in what some people say a safe area…then what? What would you say then?

      • What’s your point TrueJustice12? I asked a question if it was the same street nothing further get over your bad self…….

        • Anonymous

          Sorry…just makes me a bit mad when people place stigma to the area….when in reality it could happen anywhere.

          • Ok lets do this run a crime report for the surrounding 10 block area of bowling drive and I will do the same for my neighborhood. It is a bad area and for some reason people flock to that area.

          • To go along with what I said the event that my neighborhood ever got to this point I would one assist the pd in cleaning it up and if that didn’t work I would move my family to a safer area.

          • Anonymous

            Well that is good if you can…but sometimes you can not just pack up and move. But I get your point there….it is a tough situation….it is all around us….I hope they can resolve this soon. 

          • Anonymous

            Bangor PD is hiring. Get to work.

          • Thank god MattOT that isn’t my neighborhood. I said if my neighborhood was like that and why not to the good citizens that aledgedly are in this neighborhood setting up a neighborhood watch or something of its sorts.

          • Anonymous

            What’s a neighborhood watch going to do? If anything even happens you’ll call the police anyways. 

          • Anonymous

            I live in new Capehart. It is low income for some , we have college kids, workers and others.  Glad your neighborhood is so great we will send over  our poor, our desperate and our mentally ill…
            You need to get off your high horse and stop painting  all of us in red.. It can happen any where.. Be grateful they place all the poor in one area so as not to disturb your wonderful neighborhood..

          • ..

      • my family is the couple that was beside the murder!

    • Anonymous

      Yup

    • Anonymous

      must have killer parties all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Cue the dog whistle, “Liberals to blame ” for some random jerk terrorizing his or her significant other.

    Trust me on this one,  those quote  “bleeding heart liberal”  guys are usually pretty calm and intelligent enough overall to not have to resort to being an abusive jackass when they don’t get their way. You can mostly find them reading books and literally hugging trees!

    But go ahead and blame liberals, I love it when you expose your biases and your hypocrisy.

    • Anonymous

      Not sure how this has anything to do with liberals, I would be kind of interested in seeing how someone would be able to make such a connection. But in all honesty I was kind of expecting a legitimate argument for “gun control”. It used to be that gun related incidents such as this were few and far between, it seems as of late I am reading about something like this happening just about every day. Please note that this is not an argument for or against gun control, just stating my observations.

      • Anonymous

         Toystory, you will note that a generous portion of conservative BDN readers love to stereotype people that live on Bolling Drive or those in that area as welfare bums.  Conservatives blame liberals for “welfare bums”… I was just preemptively calling it out as some BS stereotyping.

        • Anonymous

          I doubt their fighting over polititcs. 

          • Anonymous

             It’s “they’re”…they are.

            I was referring to the comments.

          • Anonymous

            I guess you got me there.

        • Anonymous

          the left love methadone clinics how do you think we got this way in the first place.more dependance that is how they get more votes free stuff.and ebt oh free phones. and mcdonalds if you push the right button. what a sad state for america.

          • Anonymous

            Why do you people hate other people who you don’t know so much? Seriously!

      • Anonymous

        I’m not sure that it’s a gun control issue, but something has definitely changed where these types of incidents have become disturbingly prolific. The access to guns hasn’t changed, the socioeconomic state of “New Capeheart” hasn’t changed last I knew, but something new is going on. Instead of blaming politics we should probably be trying to figure out that something new is. 

        And Toy Story 2 was awesome….

    • Anonymous

      is that why they threw nails in the parking lot of romney suporters.spit on anyone who is on the right. liberals are the most intolerant race on the planet, it is their way or the highway get a clue will you.

      • Anonymous

        Listen, Joe, I could point you to people having Obama pictures with a noose around them by conservative voters…a tad more offensive, but both of those things are wrong…

        However, you can’t have it both ways…liberals are either peace-niks, who love our diversity and sinful gay stuff, and our live and let live attitudes…or we’re not.

        You actually make zero sense when you say we’re intolerant. We’re not the one’s *****voting****** on other people’s marriages and their bodies. Get a clue, will you?

        • Anonymous

          why did the media protect him, they would not tell anyone about health care. see all big companys are not going to hire. cut hours and layoff plus prices go up with socialist the rich get poor the poor get poorer history repeats itself.if you let it

          • Anonymous

            Well, you just outed my business plan.  I currently have 53 employees and I offer insurance.  I am going to cut for 49 employees and discontinue company paid health insurance because it is cheaper for myself and my employees to take Obama care.  I don’t like the idea of it, but I have to do what is right for my business and employees.  I am a strict republican, but like they say “if you can’t beat them, join them.”  I have never had this kind of give up attitude until last tuesday, great for America isn’t it….

          • Anonymous

            I hear you but isn’t sad what has happend to our once great country. I am not rich or loaded but our leaders are pure evil. I hope we can survive the next four years. bless you

        • calm down. you all sound like idiots to me. this is not a liberal or rightious issue. This is about a
          neighborhood that is in trouble. The people who live there are the ones who make it the way that it is. They are the one’s who need to clean it up. That seems to be the problem with stuff like this,
          everybody wants somebody else to take care of thier problems, instead of doing it yourself.
          nobody has any ownership anymore. YOU MAKE THE MESS, YOU CLEAN IT UP.

      • Anonymous

        wow, the pot call the kettle black?

        • Anonymous

          HuH

      • Anonymous

        Is that why some terrible words were put on Obama signs,etc….in Bangor and elsewhere. You have a very myopic view .

        • Anonymous

          He’s a muslim

          • Anonymous

            No , he is not , as all intelligent and sane people know.

          • Anonymous

            You are hopeless. I know you are very young and cant help it. I grew up during the vietnam war, so give it up you are totaly brainwashed, and dont respond to my post any more. I will ignore you from now on child.

          • Anonymous

            You’re living in Fear. Nothing more nothing less, the same as the rest of the people who don’t have THEIR preferred candidate in office.

          • Guest

            I grew up during the Viet Nam war and you are out of touch with the times.
            And no I am not young. I wish I were again but no.

      • Anonymous

         And Joe, this is what I’m talking about..Liberals are not a race.

        Liberals aren’t coming from a place that says, Believe what we believe, or you will burn in hell.

        We don’t think we have a right to assign children a life of misery by denying women all over the planet birth control. Procreate even if you die starving in the gutter.

        We’re not the ones who would rather give billionaires tax breaks rather than to keep school lunch programs.

        • Anonymous

          You left out interrupt debates!! With false information” Then say sorry’ sorry, oh well stuff happens.you are dellusional.

        • Anonymous

          this story is not political..jeez..

    • Anonymous

      Are you really calling someone out on bias when you just said you can “mostly find them (liberal guys) reading books and literally hugging trees”? How many people do you actually know? I hate to tell you this, but jerks come in liberal, conservative, and many varieties in between.

  • Anonymous

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully the police do not act stupidly and Obama gives them a beer summit making everything fine.Oh that Obama makes the world so much better.

  • Anonymous

    Take a shot every time you see a “food stamps” comment for this story.

  • She thought she heard a gunshot? One person? Hopefully it is a waste of time, just a  fire cracker going off or something. But they say its a man, so something is not being reported here.

  • Anonymous

    All this activity because someone THOUGHT they heard a gunshot? Really? Evacuations, a possible search helicopter (I’ve been listening to it for over an hour now, awful funny coincidence)…. For a gunshot? 

    Does anyone else wonder what else we’re not being told? 

  • Anonymous

    The story has been updated….stay tuned to BDN as soon as they update their story. 

  • Anonymous

    Hm. Well. Apparently BDN didn’t have their ducks in a row.

    According to WABI:
    Bangor – Bangor police say one person is dead after what started as a possible standoff at an apartment complex on Bolling Drive. Police aren’t yet saying how the man died and are not releasing his name. But they will tell us they are not looking for a murder suspect.They also say the incident never escalated into a standoff. Police say they were called to 49 Bolling Drive just after 2 p.m. Tuesday for a report of a domestic fight where a weapon was threatened to be used. They say a woman with a child called police after getting in a fight with a man, then hearing a gun shot.The woman ran out of the building with the child. The Bangor Police Special Response Team responded to the scene, sending a robot into the building to getting a closer look at the area. We have a crew on the scene and will have the latest information on http://www.wabi.tv and TV5.

    • PaulNotBunyan

      You should not paste a story from another news website into this one. Just put a link to it that others can follow. It’s a copyright issue and your comment will probably be removed.

      • Superuser23

        Because after all we want to see accurate news!

        • PaulNotBunyan

          My comment had nothing to do with that. Links are fine because they send traffic to the other site and the visitors will see the ads that go with a story. What this poster did is copyright infringement. The first BDN moderator that see it has to delete it to show that BDN is not a party to the act.

          • Superuser23

            BDN only removes what they want when they want, the rules around here are not consistent, law broken or not, considering the comment a day later is still there, I would say the BDN has not expressed interest in removing it

          • PaulNotBunyan

            Nope. It’s there because it hasn’t been read by BDN. If I had flagged it there would be a better chance of them reading it. The principle of posting links instead of copying from other sites has been around since the web got started. You’ll find it in the terms of service for the majority of websites that have a terms of service page. This site has one and the user submissions section list several “do not” items including the following one:

            “Post material that is copyrighted, unless you are the copyright owner or have the permission of the copyright owner to post it;”

            http://bangordailynews.com/terms-of-service/

          • Superuser23

            Yes and many of us have been banned for breaking the so called rules or terms when they weren’t. So again the BDN does not consistently enforce their rules, so instead of lecturing about copyright laws 2 days later, flag it and move on

  • dee

    one of those 

  • Anonymous

    A man is dead. There needs to be a little more respect on this site paid to those in our community. There is way to much class warfare going on here and I will not stand for it.

    There is nothing wrong with Bolling Drive. There are some excellent families in that area and I know. Many have been knocked back in life and they use these units as affordable housing while they can save enough to back on their feet.

    I am sorry to any of the kids that might have fear or anxiety over what is going on in their neighborhood.

    • Matthew Desmond

      The sad thing is Bushfan, for every one family that is in that area that has been set back, there are four others that plan on making that life long housing.  Class warfare has got to go, buuuuut….that’s kinda what we all get our kicks on these days…

      • Anonymous

        You do know that it is not subsidized housing, RIGHT? Those apartments are privately owned and rented and have been for some time now. When we were looking at apartments 2 years ago, those were going for $850-$1000 depending on the upkeep and who owned them.

    • Anonymous

      When you say, “…and I will not stand for it.” What exactly do you mean? What are you going to do about it? Just curious.

      • Anonymous

        Whatever Bushfan is going to do about…I’m going to help. I’m getting really, really tired of complex social, economic, and political issues being boiled down to trite, petty comments from people trying to sound clever. 

      • Anonymous

        Time will tell.

        • Anonymous

          Since we don’t know you personally, how will we know when you’ve done something about it? Will you tell us? I don’t want to miss “it” – whatever “it” ends up being!

    • Anonymous

      The welfare state is not really about the welfare of the masses. It is about the egos of the elites. A thought to ponder over.

    • Anonymous

      Bolling Drive Old Capehart -alot of people remember it for sure. Yes there are people that need temporary assistance the problem is the lifers far out way the short timers. Has anyone every checked the turnover of units in this area? The waiting list is a pretty good example of the vacancies, alot of the occupants that move just go on to another location. So lets not get hung up on the “class warfare” monolog–please its old.

      • Anonymous

        Bolling Drive is in New Capehart and is comprised of privately owned apartment buildings.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe, just maybe, providing the city can find a “dime”, it might be time to put 24 hour police patroling these “High Society” areas of Bangor!

    • Anonymous

      Bangor is a 24 hour police department? Not sure what you even mean.

      • Anonymous

        How about 24 hour coverage; directly in the areas where these problems arrive. Patrolling the area…

  • Anonymous

     How about the stories not on Bolling drive. 100 times more.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t it time to start blaming the landlord?  Bangor City Council, didn’t you say it was time to make landlords accountable for the violent acts of their tenants (also improper disposal of trash and debris, and loud music if it isn’t a concert). Find the landlord and charge him or her or it!!!  (sarcasm)

  • Superuser23

    But I thought Capehart was such a great place? I thought you didn’t find crap like this anymore there and it was inappropriate to speak negative of capehart?

  • Anonymous

    This is the best comment I have ever seen on here!

  • .

    • Anonymous

      Great perspective. Well said.

  • .

  • Anonymous

    DO YOU LIVE ON BOLLING DRIVE??????????

  • As someone who spent a good part of my childhood, not on Bolling Drive but close by, in subsidized housing, I find the discrimination and generalization in these comments genuinely disheartening.

    Did we know we lived in a crap neighborhood? Of course we did! TWO of my brother’s Big Wheels were stolen, we weren’t allowed to play with many of the neighborhood kids, and I distinctly remember being woken up late at night by police officers knocking on the door to question us about goings on in the apartment complex. We knew it was a “sh*thole”, but where was my mom
    supposed to take us on her salary? She did the best she could with what
    she had, and in order to feed and clothe us and keep a roof over our
    head, she was forced to live in a less desirable neighborhood.

    It’s easy for people on these comments to judge, and say that if they
    were in that area, they’d to the responsible thing and pack up their
    family and leave. However, chances are, if you were forced to live in an
    area like that, you wouldn’t have the means to do so.

    There is a faulty logic going on here. People think, “Well since most
    violent people are poor, obviously most poor people are violent.” This
    is a hasty generalization, which, in many cases, just isn’t true. There
    are just as many hard working, law-abiding poor  as there are criminals,
    it’s just that the law-abiding ones don’t show up on BDN.

    In my case, my mother finished some trade school and training
    programs and got a better job at a bank. At that point she was able to
    get us into a better apartment, and eventually remarried and relocated permanently . I’ve never been on any kind of general assistance since
    then… it’s been almost 20 years that we’ve been on our own feet. I’m a
    pre-med student now, and my brother just finished his
    contract with the military and is training to be a state trooper. As far
    as I’m concerned, the money spent on our food stamps and subsidized
    housing was a good investment.

    I don’t speak as a Republican or a Democrat, but as a person — a person who has seen both sides of this coin. It’s easy to judge people from a high and mighty standpoint, but
    generalizing an entire group of people based on the worst examples of
    them is hasty and unkind.

    Instead of demonizing a whole community, why don’t we turn our thoughts to the people that are hurting over this incident, pray for them if we’re so inclined, and be thankful that we aren’t in a situation in which we have to deal with this kind of tragedy.

    • Anonymous

       This is the most intelligent thing I’ve seen written here, and certainly much more closely pertains to the story than an angry liberal looking for an excuse to pick a fight with Republicans.  Thank you.  Your point was well made and very well written. 

      • Anonymous

        I believe she said that she didn’t speak as a Republican or a Democrat, but as a person. So why would you want to label a great story that she opened her heart to share with us. I don’t see liberals angrily lashing out like you seem to be doing. I’m sorry that you carry this heavy load in your heart.

        • Anonymous

          I think I was misunderstood. I meant that I was happy to read her message and explaining what really happens at Bolling and that people are stuck there due to financial reasons, etc. I was making the point that the earlier poster going on about liberal haters/republicans, etc. was the one looking to start a fight, not this kind woman that had a good story with a point to it. I’m sorry I was misunderstood. It wasn’t my intention. It’s irritating to see something tragic happen and people looking for a reason to complain about politics, her story was actually a good one that shed a new light on Bolling for me, as I’m not very familiar with the area and have only heard negative about it.

          • Anonymous

            thanks :^)

      • Anonymous

        You got the wrong message from this woman’s post. Sad.

    • Anonymous

      Very well said!!!! And I thank you for standing up and letting your voice be heard! There are many people in this state who have had to collect some sort of welfare and came out of it a better family. Thats what its for! Everyone is quick to jump on those who need help, but they never speak of those who these programs have helped! Congrats to you and your family for turning things around! I wish more people like you would speak out about how much the programs in place have helped there familys!

      • justamom

        That is the problem. It’s rare to have people stand around the water cooler chatting about the great things done and accomplishments made by someone who has received assistance. Instead we tend to focus on and remember only the negative. We need to recognize that in order to stop immediately judging those who need some help surviving.

    • Anonymous

      I completely agree with you. My Mom worked tirelessly while she raised myself, my brother and my sister on Bald Mtn. Drive and it was a tough place to grow up. Nobody wants to live in a place like this but you do what you have to in order to survive. Try not to take some of the comments from those on here constantly ripping parents or calling those that accept some help from the state, too seriously. These are mostly people that have no life, sit and cast stones without ever revealing some of the skeletons in thier own closets..I commend you for a great response and comment.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for sharing this. I can hear the pride in your message. Never a truer message to be written. Good luck in you endeavors.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe momma should not have had 3 kids if she could not afford it….

      • Anonymous

        This is such convoluted logic and it happens so much on these discussion boards. What makes you think this woman started out with 3 kids and no means of support? Has it ever occurred to any of you that maybe she had a means of support when she had those children and then something happened? Just like people making assumptions that if you live in that neighborhood you have the means to move just because someone is poor and has children doesn’t mean it started out that way.

      • Anonymous

        Welfare is hated by those who administer it, mistrusted by those who pay for it and held in contempt by those who receive it.
        You must own a gavel and a black robe, your judging this woman’s mother and you have not a clue the circumstances to their lives.
        In the same instance that I could not judge you not knowing a thing about your life.

    • Andre Linoge

      its time for bangor to pick up the slack and crack down on crime before it gets any worse…we had 3 people murdered here in cold blood and for what. just imagine as we get closer and closer to the holiday season what could happen…unlocked cars, people getting robbed…its gonna happen

    • Anonymous

      Your awesome

    • Anonymous

      Well Said!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe they need to change the street name to Little Detriot. 

  • dee

    was it suicide 

  • Anonymous

    you will hear this story over and over. We bred it ,we raised it,and we are responsible for it.get up in the morning work all day and go home to read how the nanny state has succeeded again in perpetuating its agenda. no consequences, just keep feeding the machine. tinserblic loves it,i just get tired of the same old crap.

  • Anonymous

    Amen!

  • Anonymous

    Amen!

  • Anonymous

    I cannot believe people on here are so selfish and arrogant. A man is dead, a woman is a widow, this was a good family and the wife is very caring and loving. Children are now without a father. This was a tragedy and you people should be ashamed of yourselves. If the same thing happened in a rich neighborhood would you be making the same comments???? Just because you live in the ghetto does not make you ghetto!!! I am appauld and I pray you and your family never have to experience the kind of devistation this poor family now has to deal with. All families have issues and some just cannot get past theirs. Have some compassion and common sense. How would you feel if this article was about your father or brother or best friend???? Bottom line is doodoo happens and we should come together as a community and reach out to the people that are left behind to grieve and heal.

  • Anonymous

    Very, very high five to BPD for not standing around for 4 to 6 hours before entering the residence as occurred with MSP in Hampden last July and in Dexter in June, 2011.

    And even higher five to the woman and child who responded properly by exiting the house despite any extant risk from the knucklehead who caused only one lost life.

    It is too bad to have to say that these individuals who are intent on taking lives and creating a trail of destruction need to wake up and realize that there is only about five seconds (in nearly all DVH cases) of joy that result from killing others they supposedly love before they go ahead and kill themselves.

    Why waste so much ammunition?  Please only use one round.

    It will be very interesting to find out if there was any Firearms Relinquishment Order in this case.  My uninformed bet is that the answer is “no” because both the BPD and the PCSO are good at their jobs and tend significantly to ethically do what they are supposed and required to do in cases of Domestic Violence complaints.

  • Anonymous

    Video doesn’t work………..

  • Ben Hutchins

    “Edwards wouldn’t confirm or deny whether the projectiles carried tear gas.”

    Seems like a curious thing to be coy about. I mean, I think we can safely assume they weren’t loaded with mustard gas or VX.

  • dee

    Boiling drive used to be a nice neighborhood. military people used to live there. i think some still do. just because this happened doesnt mean . the guy had a fight. it sounds like he committed suicide. why say the neighborhood is a bad neighborhood. it was old capehart that had the bad reputation but they have since cleaned that up. down around First Street is what i call Nasty

  • Anonymous

    class warfare = a sad way to feel better about yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Ok I am confused. They had an earlier report and then they came back to the residence later in the afternoon? Something is “off” here. Inconsistency of the story leads to further questions……what happened?

  • Andre Linoge

    Damn, Bangor has gone to the gutter trash

  • Andre Linoge

    give me what i want and i’ll go away

  • Anonymous

    As I write, there are 147 comments. Most of them that I can see are bashing the neighborhood where this man died, or perhaps killed himself.

    Isn’t the subject of this story, a man who was so distraught that he pulled a gun on his family and then it would appear, turned that weapon on himself? It would appear he was a husband (boyfriend), father. He was probably someone’s son and brother. Regardless of what kind of crimes may or may not have been involved, someone is going to miss this person. So let’s not put down an entire neighborhood for the actions of one obviously desperate individual.

    My condolences to his family and his friends.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know the whole story but this wasn’t a violent man and he would never use a weapon against his family.My deepest sympathies to the ones left here who have to live with his choice.

  • Anonymous

    Surprisingly, there are a lot of decent comments, and of course there are those who obviously have had life handed to them and probably never had to work for anything… Or at least have never had anything horrible happen to them that they couldn’t quite recover from. Karma folks.. that’s my word / warning for the day. ON that note, I live in New Capehart. Not the cat’s meow by any means. My husband and I moved here from Aroostook County. We were expecting our first (and only) child in only a couple weeks when we finally got here. We made the move because as anyone knows, there is no work up North. Not being familiar with the area, moving in a rush as it was December and we had a baby coming, we had to accept what we could find on a short notice. My husband found work immediately while I stayed home with our Newborn for the first 10 months of his life. After that I went to work as my husband was forced into disability due to an old injury. He used to do Construction work. He and his uncle owned their own business, he fell through the floor.. 3 of them! We have lived here for almost 11 years now. In those 11 years, I’ve had 3 jobs. 1 closed down, 2nd; I had to leave due to receiving a concussion in an automobile accident caused by a distracted driver, 3rd; was during the worst part of the economical downfall; I was laid off. I spent a year on unemployment barely feeding my family. I looked for work everyday, I called and I walked in to this one particular place EVERYDAY until I got the job.. I’ve been at my current job now for nearly 4 years.. Every job I’ve had, I’ve worked as much as they would allow me, and I’ve been a taxpayer since I was 15 years old and still in high school, and shortly after my Dad was killed in a work related auto accident. I even went to college right out of high school. Mentally I wasn’t ready for it, and the school wasn’t the greatest, so I left with all intensions of returning.. financially I can’t do it, and now I just can’t seem to find the time. I work 40+ hours a week, my husband receives a very inadequate amount in Disability. We have 1 child, we know we couldn’t afford another, so we don’t have anymore.. but having only 1 child does not make our situation any easier. Every penny we make has to be claimed, and they find a way of taking a percentage of that penny. We have a no interest bearing account; simply used only for cashing paychecks and paying bills, yet they take interest off of what’s in there at the time. During our last review, my paycheck and my husband’s disability were deposited at the same time.. they took interest off of it, though we aren’t making any interest on it, and within the next 4 days it was gone on bills and my rent which is over $700 a month. That much money a month, I should be able to afford a decent apartment out of this area right? I would love to.. BUT.. it is impossible to save any money to move.. they find a way of taking it all. You can’t leave anything in the bank for a rainy day, or even a sunny day, because they take it.. where do we get the first, last and security deposit and whatever else we’ll need just for moving expenses? I don’t have a rich uncle that’s on his death bed and leaving his estate to me anytime soon. They make it near impossible to leave. We’re hoping this tax season is a good one, because that is our only ticket out. Our son has been the victim of severe bullying for the last 5 years.. he’s only 9. We teach him to walk away whenever possible, we don’t condone violence unless it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.. but he isn’t the type to put his hands on anyone, he won’t defend himself, he just comes to us. Do we sound like the type of people that deserve some of the comments? The fact is, there are a lot of bad people here.. but there are also a lot of GOOD people here who have just not found their way out and who struggling as much if not more than others in GOOD neighborhoods. To label someone because of the “neighborhood” they have to live in is cruel, and those of you doing it are no better than the bully’s here that have been assaulting my 9 year old. You might as well pack up and move in. While I think you deserve to feel what it’s like, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. It’s the worst feeling there is to know that you’re working your ass off to provide the best you can for your family.. it’s the worst feeling in the world to know that your ability to work at all has been taken away from you and now you have to rely on others… it’s the worst feeling in the world to not be able to care for your family in the way you know they deserve… and then to have to listen to others who have NO idea what’s it’s like, and NO idea what your struggles are, putting you down simply because of where you lay your head at night. I hear it everywhere I go. I even here at work.. from my boss at that.. imagine.. here I am everyday working my ass off in a manor that you can see, and still hearing “those people”.. “what do you expect when you put those people together”… “I hate shopping at the Union Street Hannaford because that’s where ‘those people’ shop”… Growing up, we always had a house.. our own yard.. no one else to answer to.. I used to look down on “those people”.. why couldn’t they have their own house.. why won’t their parent’s work as hard as mine did… I never understood, and I really had little respect for them.. and then I became one, and I AM working.. and I’m paying more here than a lot of people “out there”. I’ve been forced to understand what it’s like, and I can now say that I was wrong to look down on others’ misfortune and to pass judgement.. the only thing I can say for myself.. is I was only a child.. how many passing judgment on this forum or elsewhere are children who do not know any better? The ill choices of one, are NOT the reflection of all. God Bless the family suffering, those who know them and those around them. For those who want nothing more than to live their lives as bullies in one way or another, I pray God opens your eyes, because you’d never survive on this side.

  • Anonymous

    People can try to make this about rich vs. poor or conservative vs. liberal or Republican vs. Democrat all they want. But it does not change the fact that this is a tragedy for this family, their friends, and their community.

  • Anonymous

    First off, Bolling Drive is not subsidized housing. It is privately owned apartment buildings. Blame the owner’s that don’t care who moves into their apartments as long as they get a rent check. My friend lived at the one behind Greenfield apartments and was paying $895 a month. Does that sound low income to you? It sure doesn’t to me.

    Secondly, the stereotypes for subsidized housing are ridiculous. Especially because old Capehart is not what it used to be. They are very strict, run background checks, and have 2 full time police officers that patrol the area. I don’t know about you, but I have never had a criminal background check for any apartment I’ve ever rented! Nor have I had 2 full time officers patrolling my neighborhood.

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