Comments for: RSU 19 implements $750,000 in cuts after $3.6 million loan voted down

Posted Nov. 07, 2012, at 11:58 a.m.
Last modified Nov. 07, 2012, at 6:15 p.m.

NEWPORT | Regional School Unit 19 Superintendent Greg Potter said Wednesday that the district’s $3.6 million loan proposal did not pass, forcing the district to cut $750,000 in programs. Seven of the eight towns in the district voted down the $3.6 million loan proposal on Tuesday, 3,853 to 3,500. …

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  • Anonymous

    Such a shame for the kids…They take it on the chin for their parents and grandparents lack of forsight….

    Back twenty years ago, they had a chance to build a brand new middle school and have it paid for with federal money….But residents in a couple of the smaller towns in the district voted the proposal down…Saying that they wanted to keep their kids closer to home by expanding their local elementary schools instead…The federal money went by the boards….

    Jump ahead about a dozen years or so and the need for a middle school still existed….And a new middle school was approved this time…But this time, there was little federal money available to fund it’s construction…Thus the town’s mill rates took a hit because now, the area towns had to pay for the new middle school themselves….

    Times are tough and all but I’d bet that this same short sighted group voted down the money to keep things going for today’s students….It’s just a shame!

    And people wonder why so many area kids drop out of school and get into trouble?

    You get what you sow…

    • Anonymous

      Federal money = free money. Nobody has to pay for that?

      • Jonathan Smith

        People who vote for bonds or ridiculous budgets never can do the math

        • Anonymous

          Yeah they can. Someone in texas is  helping  to paying for it  ,instead of you alone .That iamounts to  pretty good math for you .

          • Yawningattrolls

            Your comment made no sense, did you go to school in RSU 19? Hmmm, if you did, it shows the (lack of a) quality of education there…….

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          • Anonymous

            And there is exactly why the school will never succeed. “You are dumb you must have went to Nokomis.” No wonder the vote didnt pass. Too many bass ackward people

  • Anonymous

    so sad, sports and afterschool activities are the main reason kids stay out of trouble.  

    • Anonymous

      These are the same reasons kids stay in school! They strive for better grades to remain eligible to play sports and be part of the music programs! Now we are taking most of it away?? We as a community are asking for trouble here! Ugh! I am so frustrated by all of this. It wont be long before this community feels the wrath of this poor decision. We will soon have kids hanging out on the streets instead of on the court.

      • Jonathan Smith

        Kids stay in school because of good parenting – not because of programs. Many schools do not have football and their kids turn out just FINE

        • Anonymous

           name ANY school that doesn’t have football!

          • Anonymous

            Mount Abram, Gould Academy, North Yarmouth Academy, Calais, Presque Isle, Fort Kent, Fort Fairfield, Schenck, Bangor Christian, Medomak Valley, …shall I continue?

          • Yawningattrolls

            Football programs are an extravegant waste of school funds, it isn’t cheap especially since it only serves the male athletes; bet you would raise hell if they allocated $75,000 a year for a female lacrosse team……

          • Anonymous

            I played ‘touch’ football right through grad. school…great sport, great exercise…personalize it,forget about the teams, mascots, trainers, coaches and just go for a lifelong sport like swimming and even soccer.  …and if you have a child who has professional potential, the best thing you can do is change districts or enroll them in a school with a well developed program as a tuition student. That’s the joy of school voucher and school  choice programs! Every child who has the potential can fully develop it without breaking the local piggy bank.

    • Anonymous

      What about paying to play.. That is how community sports are done and it use to be many years ago. If parents want to keep their kids out of trouble like this then it can be done.  Agreed that basic economics is’t being implemented at this district.

    • Then they should cut Administrators! Of course, they never do that in these situations. The district’s citizens just want some accountability! How did this happen? Where did the money disappear to? And, how can you prove to us that it wont happen again. We’ve gotten none of these answers.

      • Anonymous

        Just from what’s been printed here it seems like all those questions have been answered. There were some accounting errors perpetuated by the former superintendent that caused the district to under-bill the towns. They now have an actual business manager overseeing the budget and billing, and a new superintendent, so it seems unlikely it’ll happen again.

        • OK, that’s pretty fair. I like the new guy. I feel bad he had to break the bad news. But, you have to understand the electorate’s distrust and destain for feeling like whenever there’s a problem they’re asked to write the check and shut up.

          Like the story says, a new request for a smaller loan is forthcoming.

          I actually don’t have a huge problem with the preposed loan. The terms and cost to the individual are IMO, tolerable. However, not without making somebody sweat a bit. 

          You have to realize that this is the same RSU, before they called them RSUs that put up a school budget 5 times, that was rejected 4 times, with only token changes, between them, before they stuffed the “public hearing” and passed it anyway.

          I stopped voting after about the 3rd time…

        • Anonymous

           so basically because they were too cheap to hire a business manager , they lost money.

          • Anonymous

            Basically, yeah – though my understanding is that it’s less a case of loosing money as it is a case of charging the area towns less than they’d agreed to pay.
            Either way it is a little baffling that the previous superintendent – who was clearly not very good with dealing with the business end of the school – would make the decision to not hire a business manager.
            It’s just too bad that now a bunch of people who had nothing to do with creating the problem – students, parents, and the staff – are now going to be paying the price for one old man’s inattention to detail.

      • Anonymous

        STOP asking questions and looking to fix the problem so that it doesn’t happen again. Just borrow more $$$$ and spend it. It’s for the kids.

  • Anonymous

    There is NO MORE MONEY in this district.  We have to tighten our belts when we go year after year after year without raises, yet living expenses go up and up and up.  It’s about time the school has to make some cuts.  It’s teaching the kids basic economics….if you don’t have the money, you have to cut back.  It’s just how it is.

    • Anonymous

      Yup!!!  You are so RIGHT!!!!  Teach those kids a lesson!!!  Teach them that their community doesn’t care and basically wants them to be miserable!!!!  Teach them that people are SO CHEAP that they won’t pay $76.00 a year, which by-the-way probably costs less than ONE tank of gas in their gas guzzling pick up trucks, so they can have a chance at happiness!!!  You think this won’t affect you, because you don’t have children in the district schools?  Think again!!!  How many people are going to want to move to a district that has no sports program, or music program, or can’t even afford paper?  Yeah, good luck selling your house!!!!!! 

      • Anonymous

        Teacher?

        • Anonymous

          Unemployed dropout?

        • Anonymous

          No, just a very disappointed parent of a child who graduated from RSU19 last year.  Yes, I have a job (if the “unemployed dropout” comment was aimed at me.  Oh yeah, I even served in the Air Force).  And yes, I’ve paid my fair share of taxes.   You don’t punish kids for a grownup’s mistake.  You suck it up, and do what you can to make their lives better.  Is $76 a year, $6.33 a month, $0.21 a day too much to ask for?  NO!  You help give these kids a chance to enjoy what short childhood they have.   Then, instead of sitting back and letting the school decide what to do with your money, YOU GET INVOLVED!!!!!!!  Hold the administrators accountable, and have a say as to what they do with your tax money!  A lot of people are focusing on the sports programs, and sports is very important to a school, let alone a child.  However, it goes WAY deeper.  Heat, tissues, toilet paper, removal of asbestos….  How many of you used to love going on field trips while you were in school?  They only got one field trip per year before, now they get none.  And let’s not forget the teachers.  How many good teachers are going to want to teach in a school with no supplies, miserable kids, and to top it all off , no benefits?  Not many…. 

      • Anonymous

        The kids will receive an education. I will gladly pay for that. (Your welcome!) BUT why should I have to pay for all this other “stuff” that has become part of the school day. You don’t pay for my kids riding lessons, why should I pay for your kids football or soccer? $76 may be nothing to you, but it is a great deal of money to me. My family has had NO pay raise in three years. We have to put the foot down on something.
        Make the cuts the kids will be just fine. If YOU want to spend the $, you can pay for your kids to play sports.

        • Anonymous

          UH  ’cause someone else paid for all that “stuff ” for you??  Time to pay it back  and say thank you.

        • Anonymous

          That is not the point!  You never ever vote against a referendum for a school!  The school is the heart and soul of a community!!!  Mark my words you WILL be paying WAY more in taxes eventually!!!  No one will move into the area, no one will be able to sell their houses, people will be moving out of the area to go to better school districts.  How many teachers are going to want to teach at a school with miserable kids, no supplies, and NO benefits?  Think about that!!!   Oh and you didn’t pay for my kids Football, I DID, with the help of Nokomis Football Boosters!!!  We went door to door selling discount cards, participated in car washes, spaghetti dinners/silent auctions, I spent HOURS AND HOURS in the snack shack, missing my child’s games so we could have a football program!   Sports IS very important to a school system..  like it or not America thrives on sports, and when your school doesn’t have a program, the kids and the community suffer.  I’m not saying you are not allowed to be mad, or upset!  I am!  So instead of complaining to the paper and websites, go to school board meetings, get involved, make sure the school administrators are doing what they should with your tax money! 

          • Anonymous

             The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!

          • Anonymous

            The point is that you should vote no on a referendum if it is not cost effective.  It appears that the board and administration weren’t doing their jobs if there is that much of a short fall.  So if it takes cutting some programs and positions to make up for their inattention then they are the ones that need the education not the taxpayer. I we make a mistake we can’t go to them for correction then they need not come to us.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, football is not cheap!  It cost about $100 at the beginning of the season alone, for uniforms and then parents are responsible for cleats, socks, and other items.

        • Yawningattrolls

          They ‘ll never cut sports – they will simply cut teachers because the district priorities are detached from reality; schools are supposed to be about academics, not a sports’ cult.

        • Anonymous

          For decades, research has shown a correlation between music education and academic success.  Schools with high vs low-quality music programs have test results much higher for those with high-quality.  RSU 19 8th-grade science test scores for 2011 showed half the students were proficient, but there are 2 1/2 times MORE who are partially proficient than those who are above average.  FOURTY-SEVEN PERCENT of Nokomis students scored at a Level 1, or substantially below proficient in science.  30% of 8th graders didn’t meet the standards for math.  Are you not worried?  I can totally appreciate your frustration on the financial situation many of us are facing, but we have got to put more stock in our future-starting with our kid’s education. It is VITAL.

      • Jonathan Smith

        Some of us just want to work, eat, and keep our homes warm without running to the government. I could care less about your after school programs that you choose to do. That’s the parents job to pay for

        • Anonymous

          Everybody keeps focusing on sports, but what about heat, toilet paper, tissues, books, paper, removal of asbestos, good teachers?  When you were in school didn’t you enjoy  field trips?  They only got to go on one per year before, and now none.  Trust me you will be paying more…. MUCH more.  

          • Anonymous

            Down on the Coast, most kids take a lot of time off for all kinds of extended vacations and trips, and many ‘take off’ after lunch. Field trips are expensive and the learning incidental  rarely are they plugged into the curriculum, students get more from outside experts brought into the classroom and teachers get a break from teaching. 

            Exaggerating so much only weakens your case; most voters know exactly why they voted down the  loan….a loan ??? and the interest to pay it down. What you need to do is breakdown the cuts, and come up with either a funding plan for them—Boosters can be  a PIA to administrators, so this may not be your best option.

            Education is changing to one where future jobs, and technical careers are being emphasized over sports, etc. I’ve always believed that Maine should have regional sport’s schools, where the ‘best’ can go, almost like a Charter school where admission is based on talent and skills. Specialized education for your region can extend to other areas, just like LePage’s distance learning initiatives can bring specialized subjects into every school via the Internet. 

            Trying to duplicate what wealthy districts is silly, living within your means, even if forced by the voters is the real Maine way. Hard times make us tough and inventive. 

      • Anonymous

        No sports programs? No music programs? What the hell are you talking about? You actually think we need j.v. AND freshman baseball,j.v. cheering,j.v softball,etc… Also,it says just elements of the music program.It’s NOT just $76 MORE dollars to our tax bill,it’s the continuation of a poorly run budget and not taking responsibility for it,and to continue to spend money we don’t have because they know all they have to do is say”How can you deny our poor kids”and then people like you say,”Your so right,it’s only $76 dollars!!!”

        • Anonymous

          Then GET INVOLVED!!!  DO SOMETHING!  Make sure they are doing what you want them to do with your tax money!  Again, you will be paying more when the community gets worse than it already is…   

        • Anonymous

          Although the article doesn’t go into detail about the elements of the music program that are being cut, I would think it might be similar to cutting the JV sports.  Cutting a portion of the music program and saying it’s ok is like removing your knee and saying you can still walk because you have your foot.  Cutting your JV sports programs and expecting to have a winning varsity program is the same.  Your varsity teams will now be playing like jv players and competing against kids who are true varsity athletes.  Not smart, not safe.

          Idle hands are the devil’s workshop.  I hope those who voted against the budget will help fill the void by volunteering to work with these kids.

          • Anonymous

            Music and art can be focused in one school, not all. Recreation depts. have leagues that run year round. The best swimming teams are affiliated with the Y’s.  You don’t need a football stadium to play football or soccer—one of the least expensive sports to sponsor. Concussive, contact sports like Football and hockey are very expensive and on their way out. 

            Not to be too harsh, but you’re the booster, so do some research and see what other communities have done…do you know about the Field of Dreams in Unity or others like it? Any National Guard Gyms or college facilities you can use. 

            Have you contacted Bowdoin’s music festival office about sponsorships? 

            turn that lemon into lemonade, instead of wasting your time ranting and raving.  

          • Anonymous

            It is a common misconception that music and art classes are only for those children who demonstrate talent. Current research continues to prove that music and art classes are fundamental to every child’s education, not just because they make pretty pictures or sing cute songs. Music classes teach children to listen and art classes teach children to observe- both are necessary skills.

            Many people believe that sports teams only provide entertainment for a community and trophies for the participants. Research continues to demonstrate that money spent on interscholastic sports is money well spent.

            At the very least, the children in your schools now are going to find it difficult to compete with children from other districts when they are applying for college because they won’t have the same background.

            Your suggestions to seek alternative facilities and other organizations is taking the cheap way out. The people who run those programs and facilities are also facing funding restrictions and need to place their programs first. Someone has to pay for the heat in those facilities and someone has to fund those scholarships. To suggest they pick up the slack for a community that refuses to fully fund their schools is a good example of passing the buck.

            Again, I don’t know the specifics of how this district got into this situation and I don’t know the specifics of what is being cut, beyond what I read here. What I do know is that these cuts are unfortunate and the students’ education will be negatively impacted. You offer some suggestions about how to fill the gap- hopefully you will make the phone calls and help rectify the situation.

        • Anonymous

          Wow. If you knew anything about the school you would know there was never a freshman baseball team. I’m guessing you have no real connection to the school… just some poor guy that doesnt realize the importance of showing community pride for the schools. No wonder the school and students have the reputation that they do. They see it from people like you around the town.

          • That’s not what it says in the RSU 19 Loan Package Ballot Facts PDF on the RSU’s website. It clearly states: * All Boys JV & Freshman Baseball

    • Anonymous

      The loan that was just voted down would have still kept the yearly budget under the 23 million that the citizens of this district approved back in June. Suddenly people don’t want to spend the money that they already approved a few months back.

      • Well, $23 Million is totally outrageous for these small communities anyway. Should be about HALF that.

        • Anonymous

          Half of that when the school is already at the minimum $ per student…

          • Half, was hyperbole. But all this made me do some research… Here, http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/buses-salaries-hike-rsu-19-budget-request_2012-04-24.html  it says there are 2,380 students in the district. When I divide 23 Million by 2,380 I get a per pupil cost of $9663 for 2012. Not, the $7,610 claimed for 2011 in the RSU 19 Loan Package Ballot Facts PDF posted on the RSU’s website. So, what gives? Are you still sure that RSU 19  is spending over $2,000 less per student than the State average? I’m not.

    • Anonymous

      This is directly from a 17 yo going to Nokomis Regional High School that was
      posted on Facebook today 8 Nov 12.  For those of you who don’t know, AP stands for
      Advanced Placement…          

      “They gave out pink slips to staff today. They also informed us that they no longer have a way to pay for kids to take the AP tests. Those kids are now taking classes that involve a lot
      of dedication for nothing. Also our computers will all be taken if some
      kind of budget does not pass. Nokomis is a very sad place right now”.

      Where’sthe lesson now?  Oh wait, they can’t afford lessons…  Nokomis is now
      most likely THE poorest school district in the state Maine, it was #2….  You people are killing me….  So now my younger children can’t even take AP classes that my oldest son was able to partake in because of your basic economics lesson…  On behalf of all the children in RSU 19, let me say THANK YOU for the lesson!!!  I certainly hope you enjoy ALL that money you’re saving!!!

    • Anonymous

      And there will continue to be no money when people all leave to live somewhere where education is a priority in their community.  This isn’t a lesson-learned for the children, it’s a kick in the teeth.  Here, let’s take away all extracurricular activities and extra opportunities for learning; and let’s face it-some kids wouldn’t get any of this if it wasn’t for school.  Your message clearly reflects the majority of people in your district-that the future of your young people just doesn’t take precedence right now.

  • Anonymous

    UGH!

  • Anonymous

    I would be willing to bet that you have no children in the school district!

    • Anonymous

      I have 2 kids in the RSU 19 system and I think we should “pay to play”. Seems fair to me. Tax payers fund education, NOT sports.

  • Anonymous

    Feel bad for those losing employment and the program cuts, but you can’t borrow your way to prosperity. The blame rests on those who seemingly turned a blind eye to spending beyond means.

    • Anonymous

      That’s true….but they could have been smarter years ago and took advantage of what was offered to them….Perhaps the district would not be in the mess that it is in today?

      I too think that the cuts should be made at the top..get rid of the administrators and sell the office building for starters….

      Let the school board run the show….(for free) ….and lets see all those who voted against the loan step up to volunteer to coach the sporting programs and drive those buses to and from the games etc to keep these kids interested and out of trouble…..

      Right….Fat chance that that would ever happen?

      BTW tiredtaxpayerinmaine….Do you even own any property or pay any property taxes in this district?

      My kids are all grown up and gone, but I’d gladly give the extra $100 a year in my tax bill to keep these kids straight!….(Even if I had to use my $0.00 balance credit card for a month or so to do it…)

      It’s just too bad that folks think about their wallets first?

      (Or is it that their credit cards are maxed out?)

      Maybe attending too many tea partys… if you know what I mean?

      It’s no wonder that channel two couldn’t get anyone who voted against this loan to go on camera and tell everyone just why….

      Can we say “I’m too cheap!”?

      • Anonymous

        Yes, I do live and pay taxes in one of the district towns.  Didn’t you get that from my comment?   I think the funny part of all this screaming “what about the kids??” is that not every kid in school participates in sports and music.  So, with that reasoning, every taxpayer in the area should pay additional funds for administrative errors (instead of accountability and cutbacks) for a few of the kids that chose to participate.  That is a socialist idea…now I see why Obama got re-elected.  No one wants accountability, no one cares where the money comes from or at what costs, and yet they want all these programs implemented.  And, Yes, most parents cannot come up with an additional $76 or $100 a year in their taxes to pay for these programs…especially with the income tax increases coming in January…or did you forget about that.  Btw….my husband already has paid in in Federal taxes probably more than what most people make per year in this district….and we STILL cannot afford the additional fees.  I don’t know how people working at the local stores (Hannaford, McD’s, WalMart, local banks, etc) can afford to keep shelling out.  It’s got to stop somewhere.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, stop the futures of the local students! Print some signs! Lets get that campaign rolling!

          You might want to realize that there are a lot more than cuts to sports being made. That is just what society likes to focus on. Go spend some time in the school.

        • Anonymous

          Sorry lady…You don’t punish your children for something that they didn’t do….

          The kids had no part in any of this at all…

          It’s up to the area towns to make up the difference….And they all should do just that!

          • Anonymous

            Obviously the school has some issues here…they cut $78,000 from the heating budget right off the top.  Do you think that they are REALLY going to let the kids go cold?  Of course not!  They over-budgeted that area, hence an easy cut.  If they did this in one area, what else did they over-budget on? 

            At the same time, use this example:  I lose my job.  I can no longer pay cell phone bills, cable tv, eating out, shopping trips out of state, vacations, etc.  My kids would then be “punished” by your example, because I have to cut back.  That doesn’t even make sense!  So, they have to go without some extras for a few months, maybe a year.  They HAVE to understand that when there is NO MONEY, it means there is NO MONEY!!!!  School is supposed to be about learning skills to make them sucessful later on in life….and while I do agree that music and sports programs are good, they don’t make the world go around.   Many families are struggling to heat their own homes and put food on the table, and you DARE to criticize people for not having money to give, yet again, to the school? 

            You all come on here to judge people without walking in their shoes or trying to understand where they may be coming from.  Yet, you’ll be the first ones to scream “tolerance” or “unfair” just because we don’t agree with you.  You throw sarcasm around expecting people to bend and conform to your way of thinking.  Start using some common sense.

    • Anonymous

      No one spent beyond their means on purpose. It was bad accounting. They thought they had more money then they really did. They thought certain money carried over, but it acutally didn’t. Their budget was wrong, not the spending. They actually did well spending and stuck to their budget. Its just sad that the budget wasn’t right. 

  • Gary Libby

    This was a bad decision by the residents of this school district.  It was financially irresponsible, and a real diservice to the kids.  Sad to hear about this.

    • Anonymous

      Just be honest. You are really concerned about the teachers.

      • Anonymous

        Just be honest…you were raised by wolves and couldn’t function in the school setting…and you’re angry and bitter about it.

        • Anonymous

          Seriously…  puckerbrush is a little too obsessed with hating on teachers.  Damn those teachers and their wealthy salaries!!  Those fancy Ford cars they drive…  
          I just hope pucker and his ignorant vendetta didn’t factor in to voting against the loan.  

  • Anonymous

    If you need to borrow 3.6 millon for your budget then something is wrong.. borrowing money to run anything for everyday expenses is a lose, lose

    • Anonymous

      What is wrong is the previous administration couldn’t figure out how to properly bill the towns for their fair share…Now that the prior administration is gone, this has been uncovered…and so there you have a massive hole.

      • Anonymous

        I feel for your town. I now understand

  • Anonymous

    Where is the team?  Haven’t we all been referred to like that.  “We are all in this together!”
    School Administrators, CEO’s and the 1%er’s are the ones that are never hurt during any of these downsizings, layoffs, program eliminations, etc…..   They are never the ones suggesting we all take a bite of the ***t sandwich coming our way.  They get paid healthy salaries and bonuses and the best they can come up with is lay people off and eliminate programs.  It is time some of these people started feeling the pain also.

  • Anonymous

    The kids get hurt the most by this… WABI showed concerned parents that voted for it. And then an older woman who voted against it that apparently has no idea what it means to foster a supportive community environment for the students.

    • Yeah, but that old lady is probably on a limited fixed income with a massive heating bill heading her way, that actually owns a house, and actually pays property taxes. Not, a young HOH who rents, and may very well be on Section-8 anyway.

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  • Anonymous

    Folks you can’t fire the administrators and other top staff and then expect the school board to just run things for free. Most of the individuals elected to the school board are blue collar people who have full time jobs to attend to and don’t have the professional skill sets needed to run a multi-million dollar budget. The superintendent and other staff are hired because of their extensive capabilities and proven experience in operating an expansive school district with thousands of children in attendance.

    To those who are applauding the results of this referendum, you will be the ones who suffer financially for this in the end. A school system that few want to attend will only be populated by the very poorest families who won’t be able to transport their children to other schools in Maine.  Many families will just move out of the district and as the numbers of families decrease, your share of the tax burden will only increase.  With less families in the district, who is going to pay for this? You are. The mil rates will have to go up as the yearly tax revenue decreases due to family flight from the local towns.  Wouldn’t it be wiser to create a school district that is the envy of Maine and the nation? One that attracts families from across the state and the country? Families that can share your tax burden thereby decreasing what you pay overall every year?

    Think about that the next time you step into the voting booth. Do not doubt that you will be voting again. Another referendum has to occur. We are legally obligated to educate our children and we have to do it at a minimum budget level that is just right below where we are now. If we fall below that level, we will lose matching subsidies from the state.  At that point we might as well start writing much larger checks to the town tax collectors, because we’ll be having to pay other communities to educate our children. That cost along with the expense of transporting them to those districts will be much higher than what you are paying now.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly!!!  

    • Anonymous

      I think they can get rid of some administrators…asst superintendent, asst sped, asst principal at Nokomis…..top heavy and some of these positions should be able to pull their weight without assistants. instead I think they are going to fire some low paying positions, people that work hard…like secretaries and maintenance.  There should also be some explanation as to just how the district counted on “anticipated funding” that didn’t appear? Is that like hoping I win the lottery so I can pay my monthly bills?  Bring Bill Braun back to explain what he did, and who knew about it.

      • Anonymous

        Many of those positions are attached to other roles already. They are generally pulling double duty already. They have responsibilities that would be spread around to multiple positions in normal school districts.  I don’t think we should cut any of the positions.

      • Anonymous

        Have you read this:

        “The Frugal Superintendent, By David Hill

        Harrison, Ark.

        Charles Adair, the superintendent of the public schools here doesn’t mind being called frugal. In fact, it’s something of an honor in these parts to be considered thrifty, particularly when you’re in charge of a $9 million annual budget. To save on the electric bill, Adair turns off the lights when he leaves his office for lunch. For years, he had an agreement with a nearby district to buy its school buses after they’d been used for five years. “They were in good shape,” he told me, “and about a third the price of new ones.”
        In 1992, when a snowstorm caved in the roof of the district’s administration building–a former school erected in 1915–Adair used the insurance money to rebuild rather than construct a brand-new facility, which would have cost the taxpayers $200,000. “We saved money,” he said, “and we…”

        Education Week: The Frugal Superintendentwww.edweek.org/ew/articles/1995/09/20/03ark.h15.htmlhttp://www.americanownews.com/story/15960705/frugal-superintendent-saved-district-millions

        http://www.americanownews.com/story/15960705/frugal-superintendent-saved-district-millions

        • Anonymous

          interesting article, would be nice if more supt’s followed this man”s guidelines. I also wonder what we, as a district, gave Braun as a going away gift?  

    • Anonymous

       Just one quick question. You said that “many families will just move out of the district…”. In this economic climate, that piece of rhetoric just doesn’t hold a full glass of water. Families are going to move because the voters said “NO” to more borrowing? Please, let’s not say that the sky is falling just because of this little bit of wanting responsible people to be held accountable.

      • Anonymous

        Wanting responsible people to be held accountable and voting no for a budget are like apples and hand grenades. One has nothing to do with the other. Our district was already the second lowest cost per student in the state. Now its probably by far in away the lowest.  Who would want to send their children to a rundown, unsafe district with no supplies, less teachers per students and burned out staff. 

        Instead we could be attracting the best in the country by making our school district top notch. Our children will be the ones who drop out of school. The ones who do manage to graduate will leave Maine and never come back or at least certainly not come back to this bastion of fiscal conservatism (sic).  

        • Anonymous

           Apples are to responsibility as hand grenades are to accountability? The fiscal recklessness of this and previous administrations is criminal!

          I am 64 years old, have paid taxes for 47 years, sent three children through the public education stream for a few years and then home schooled them because they needed to learn real lessons, not test answers; sent same children through two public and one private college and having them now paying taxes, my wife and I had to pay attention to our finances. I could not ask my company (the US Navy) for more pay just because of my “accounting errors”.  I’m sorry, but I do not think that smacks of “fiscal conservatism”.  And now, living on a fixed income, it is even harder to make ends meet.

          How long until people realize that throwing money (mine and yours) at unconscionable errors will not make those errors go away? And please, stop the “our children” reasoning. I do not feel an obligation to “raise a village”. I will do my fair share, expect everyone else to do the same, and expect those (in this particular instance, parents) who are personally affected to pay attention to the needs of their family.

          • Anonymous

             By voting no for that referendum you are holding children and the staff accountable for the mistake made by the now gone administrator (Braun).  You are in fact punishing the ‘village’ and damning the future of our communities. But then again many people these days seem to be voting against their own self interest.

          • Anonymous

             Wrong! I am holding the administrators, staff and parents accountable for this fiscal fiasco! The kids have nothing to do with why there is such a huge shortage of funds. Maybe now they can put forth a strong effort to learn academics (read mathematics and accounting skills, moral values and honesty along with integrity) and prevent things like this from happening in the future. Please expound how, by not wanting to give away more of what I HAD to earn, is against my own self interest?

          • Anonymous

            Let me know how it goes in Utopia. The students at the school feel as though the town doesnt support them. Their mood is glum. They dont want to be there… even less than they did before. They are not going to all of a sudden start focusing harder on math, and english, etc. Try stepping into a modern day classroom and get an idea of what things are like now…

  • Anonymous

    How about the 3500 who voted for this get together and all chip in a $100 a year? Then even those who want this who may not pay any property tax will contribute to the cause. Want to bet many would say, why should I? There are property owners who would pay much more than the $76 that was mentioned and after a tax hike last year maybe they can’t? Maybe people are fed up with having to keep coughing up money for “mistakes” by those who are running things and are tired of it. We always hear about the poor kids, but what about the poor taxpayer who is footing all this?

  • Jonathan Smith

    The RSU needs to learn how to handle money. There is not loss in education – just incompetence by those who are supposed to be administrating the teaching of our children. Put the blame on those who brought us here – not the voters

  • Anonymous

    The sad fact to this issue is money and budget were mismanaged through incompetance; and yes, the kids will suffer as a result……  People rejected the proposal because everyone struggles to pay property taxes in this economy……………  Many retired folks living on fixed incomes simply cannot afford to pay property taxes that continually increase in this state 5-10% annually, and personal income only 1-2%…………..  It’s about time that financing our schools be reformed at the local level in order to have EVERYONE shoulder the burden, equally, rather than just property owners…………….  The value of your home  does not necessarily reflect the amount of money you have to pay expenses; yet taxes are assessed that way, resulting in a wide disparity in amounts paid by each property owner, regardless of their personal income levels……………  And the people who rent pay nothing towards education at the local level;  something wrong with this picture folks…………….

  • Anonymous

    Based on the results of our recent election, people better start preparing for more and more of this.  There’s only so much blood you can squeeze out of the turnip folks – it doesn’t grow on trees.  When you spend, spend, spend, eventually the bill comes due!

    • Anonymous

      and then the people re-elect him for 4 more years.

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  • Anonymous

    And with that, I’m done…  I’ve said my peace, and I have nothing more to say.  You may think I’m overreacting because “The sky is falling”!!!  Maybe you’re right.  I HOPE you’re right.  Maybe this is what is supposed to happen…  It certainly has got everybody’s attention, and maybe this is just the thing to get the parents, and community involved with the schools again….   

  • Anonymous

    The loss of JV CHEERING brought tears to my eyes; those poor kids will be forced to study..how cruel?

    ..sarcasm aside; at least 1/3rd of a school’s budget are non academic frills and some say distractions to STEM learning. 

    Be interesting to see if this districts academic performance improves.

    • Anonymous

      Nope. It will fall. You are severely out of touch with the school. ‘Forced to study’?? Why would they do that now… the students aren’t going to think, ‘I’ll show those nay-sayers and improve my grades.’ No. They are going to feel unsupported and regress. The better student-athletes will find other schools to flock to. Especially with school choice.
      Everyone on here is concerned about discussing the extra cirriculars. What you dont see is discussion on how there are no more supplies being bought. Sure, students can go on without sports, but what about classroom materials. Instead of telling the schools, ‘deal with the minimal that you have gotten’, how about the community actually pour support into it and see what might happen. That is how the school will improve. It seems like it has always been that negative route towards the school. Try something new… try support.
      I GUARANTEE that there will be an exodus of good teachers at the end of the year. Why would good ones want to be there?? Good riddence, though, right? We dont want adults who truly care for kids around.

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