Comments for: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election

Posted Nov. 05, 2012, at 5:57 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 06, 2012, at 8:06 a.m.

AUGUSTA | President Barack Obama has won Maine’s electoral votes, independent Angus King is Maine’s next U.S. senator, U.S. Reps. Mike Michaud and Chellie Pingree are returning to Congress and Maine’s same-sex marriage ballot measure has passed. At least that’s how this year’s elections would take shape if the …

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  • Anonymous

    Kids voting on gay issues now. God help us all. 

    • So you think they should have left that question off the ballot and left all the others?

      Also glad you brought up the god part. The younger generations are also becoming less religious, which is also awesome.

      • Anonymous

         It’s awesome for Satan.  His biggest “successes” are getting people to believe that he doesn’t exist, or getting them to believe that the only people in hell are mass murderers and child molesters.  But we can all sink a dagger into Satan’s heart if we repent as we’re dying, even if we are the biggest of sinners.  The thing we can’t count on, though, is if we will have the time, or the presence of mind, to repent.  We can’t see death coming a lot of times, so the best time to repent is now.

        • You are correct. Satan does not exist and never has. Hell is a man made creation by the church and nothing more and it is 100% true that the younger generation is becoming less religious and it has nothing to do with your so called Satan.

          What it does have to do with is them not wanting to hear the hate the church teaches. Most young childern these days have friends that are gay and they are 100% ok with it but what they are not ok with is a church or pastor telling them their friend will burn in hell for being gay and they are not normal.

          Young children today are a lot more educated and they have this little thing called the internet so when someone such as yourself comes along they can fact check what you spew. They can see the awful things preachers and pastors say about their gay friends.

          They get to read stories about children committing suicide because they where bullied for being gay. They get to see the real truth. Not the so called of your 200o year old book.

          Your religion might still be strong but today’s youth are slowly not buying into it and that has a lot of church leaders very scared. Your side is losing and it is not because of Satan. It is because today’s youth will not stand by and watch their friends get bullied and teased for who they are. 

          My daughter has stood up to these bullies many times and she will continue to do so. Children today will not stand for the hate you like to spew so you better get used to it.

          • Yawningattrolls

            No, instead they will spew hatred and intolerance of anyone who “doesn’t think their way” – its become very obvious in our society that we do not tolerate anyone else’s beliefs anymore – you are a shining example of that fact.

          • Do I go around telling gay children they will burn in hell? No, I do not but plenty of Christians do and they have no problem doing so. I hear pastors say it all the time and please don’t even attempt to play the Christians are being persecuted card because that is 100% bull. Christians are upset because they no longer get their way just because they feel they should.

          • Anonymous

            No the churches spread their own hate.

        • Anonymous

          hahahaha.  satan?  hahahahahah

        • Anonymous

          Thanks for the sermon Rev, but you cannot fool me or many others into believing your  line of BS…I wish you luck with that though.  God is in my heart, I have no fear.  I am not perfect, but thankfully, i dont need to be. 

        • Anonymous

          Remember what Jesus said… “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to pass into the kingdom of heaven.”  So you’ll have to add them to all the mass murderers and child molesters and atheists.

        • Anonymous

           repent as we’re dying, even if we are the biggest of sinners……………………………………………..

          This sentence is the craziest thing ever in the christian world…..you can rape, murder, pillage, lie, beat, hurt a child,…on and on and on…..but as you believe, if in the end you suddenly ( and I mean all of a sudden!) decide to repent,  you will go to heaven…really?

        • Anonymous

           *yawn*

        • Guest

          uck

        • Anonymous

          If you’re Mormon, you get to rule your own planet when you die!

          My question is, who are you ruling over?

      • Anonymous

         Awesome? Really? A world without God?

        • A world without god’s would be awesome and there are many god’s you don’t believe in. You simply think you have the right god and everyone else is wrong. So you are an atheist yourself, you just don’t know it.

          • Anonymous

            Created beings who deny there is a creator are nothing new. Their souls are bereft of a transcendental connection beyond the self and so they lash out at others who profess faith of any kind, judging the world by the words and works of other petty men. They have never learned that their judgment of another’s truth is a form of self-mockery. Sad.

          •  They have never learned that their judgment of another’s truth is a form of self-mockery.
            I’m not a big fan of the faithful or the faithless for that reason. The arrogance and closed mindedness of both extremes is a big turnoff. Agnosticism is the most intellectually honest (and humble) position – god is something that will never be able to be proven nor disproven.

      • Anonymous

        I am sorry you are an atheist Kevin. I personally do not believe that when you die it is just a cold, dark dirt nap for eternity. I am not here to convert you though. I am against dragging the kids into the SSM issue, let them be kids, not pawns for the LGBT community and their attempt to normalize their lifestyle choice.

        • Anonymous

          There are gay kids don’tcha know.

        • Anonymous

          College students aren’t ‘kids’…. they are old enough to be responsible for themselves, can serve in the military, pay taxes, and vote. I wouldn’t be so condescending to an age group that is primarily responsible for defending your life and liberty.

          • Anonymous

            I agree, college students can and should make up their own minds. These are grade school kids they are talking about, not adults.

          • Yawningattrolls

            Yes – and they indoctrinated at their colleges; especially here in Maine.

        • I’m sorry you believe in a magical sky daddy and think a dead guy came back to life after 3 days.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry you believe in bleak nothingness in the end Kevin. What is your purpose for existing in the end? Proving that fish sprouted legs and walked up out of the sea? Does being an insignificant link in the evolutionary chain give you fulfillment Kevin. 

          • “I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenienced me a bit.”

            Mark Twain

        • Millicent

          Don’t be sorry for us Atheists. We’re quite happy with out religion in our personal lives. :)

          • Anonymous

            You must be looking forward to that cold, dark hole filled with nothingness when you die Millicent. Nice dream. I prefer to dream of eternal light. 

      • K

        The question, without a doubt, should have been left off for children.  My 11yo was asked to vote on Question 1.  Unacceptable that young, immature children are being asked to raise an opinion of a mature issue!!  

        • Anonymous

          And voting on who should be President isn’t a mature issue??

    • Anonymous

      keep praying … it might turn your lights back on … LOL

    • Anonymous

      Yes, indoctrination, that is how they get the numbers up, they have been indoctrinating the kids for years.  Once they are old enough to understand how they have been used, when they have their own children, they will be very resentful to know they have been used.  
      It is a good thing that they are not old enough to vote yet, there is still hope.  They will mature, travel and become better informed citizens which is not allowed in the government schools.

      • Anonymous

        Wildly hyperbolic.  Speaking of indoctrination, more like what you vend.

      • Anonymous

        “And this mess is so big 
        And so deep and so tall, 
        We cannot pick it up. 
        There is no way at all!” 
        ― Dr. Seuss, The Cat in the Hat
        not4us … just thought you’d like this quote … 

        • Anonymous

          And entirely appropriate to the fantasy to which you responded, wesedwin!

      • Anonymous

        Theres one person with many names who have posted in favor of gay marriage, with deciet and dishonesty and name calling. No matter what you say they change it to something else not said.
        Makes me wonder if they are a paid troll?

      • Anonymous

         brainwashing =listening to  Rush , Beck,  Hannity  daily .

        • Anonymous

          Actually brainwashing would be better described as some naive follower looking into Obama’s eyes as he attempts to charm his way through a teleprompted message full of deceit.  He continually lies to the American people – most recently about the Benghazi attack and its coverup.  The facts are becoming more clear: in order to project a forgiving America, he and his security staff left 4 Americans to die without so much as lifting a finger to provide assistance.  He is the most repugnant fool I have ever imagined would lead our great nation.  We need a leader, not an apologist.  He is a low-class ideologue who deserves a treason charge, not a re-election.  The man admitted last week that he can’t help his daughters with their math homework because he’s not great with numbers.  Well duh!!  No wonder we’re 16 Trillion in debt and working our way toward 20 Trillion.  And Congress is no better.  The interest alone on the debt requires an increase in the debt ceiling.  Add to that the out of control spending spree used to buy our votes and we are quickly getting buried in a hole with no hope of a bailout.
          It’s all about payoff to the receiving class to garner votes and moral high ground.  The moral high ground should be about doing what is best for ALL Americans – not just those who elect our failed leaders. 

          • Anonymous

            lol!

          • Anonymous

            Well are you the righteous one!  Wow.  Go ahead let your hedge fund nominee get the vote and lets see how he really cares about the 99%.  Fool.

          • Anonymous

            Now now – name calling will not be tolerated. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election Roxieow wrote, in response to Ninelake: Well are you the righteous one! Wow. Go ahead let your hedge fund nominee get the vote and lets see how he really cares about the 99%. Fool. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: Actually brainwashing would be better described as some naive follower looking into Obama’s eyes as he attempts to charm his way through a teleprompted message full of deceit. He continually lies to the American people – most recently about the Benghazi attack and its coverup. The facts are becoming more clear: in order to project a forgiving America, he and his security staff left 4 Americans to die without so much as lifting a finger to provide assistance. He is the most repugnant fool I have ever imagined would lead our great nation. We need a leader, not an apologist. He is a low-class ideologue who deserves a treason charge, not a re-election. The man admitted last week that he can’t help his daughters with their math homework because he’s not great with numbers. We… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            Now now – name calling will not be tolerated. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election Roxieow wrote, in response to Ninelake: Well are you the righteous one! Wow. Go ahead let your hedge fund nominee get the vote and lets see how he really cares about the 99%. Fool. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: Actually brainwashing would be better described as some naive follower looking into Obama’s eyes as he attempts to charm his way through a teleprompted message full of deceit. He continually lies to the American people – most recently about the Benghazi attack and its coverup. The facts are becoming more clear: in order to project a forgiving America, he and his security staff left 4 Americans to die without so much as lifting a finger to provide assistance. He is the most repugnant fool I have ever imagined would lead our great nation. We need a leader, not an apologist. He is a low-class ideologue who deserves a treason charge, not a re-election. The man admitted last week that he can’t help his daughters with their math homework because he’s not great with numbers. We… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

      • Anonymous

        And you do not indoctrinate your pown beliefs?

  • Guest

    There is definitely hope for the future. Good job kids!

    • Anonymous

      One more day and Romney will wind up in the bad idea pile, along with Sarah Palin, Michele Bachman and Rick Santorum.

      • After some time and observation, I’ve actually become rather impressed with Mrs. Palin, her ability to market herself and milk her groveling fan base for every dime she could. She saw there was far more money and far less headache in entertaining the mob, than trying to work for them. Extremely savvy woman who knew when to strike when the iron was hot. A brilliant manipulator.

      • You cannot write of Romney. As much as I don’t want him to win, he could. To discount him this early on is not a wise thing to do.

        • Anonymous

          GET OUT THE VOTE.  GET OUT THE VOTE.  GET OUT THE VOTE.  Go to your closest Democratic Party office and VOLUNTEER.  Take nothing for granted.

          • Anonymous

            in your dreams.

          • Tom Russell

            And suffer for the next 4 years.

          • Anonymous

            Regardless of the letter after the winning candidate’s name, in a two party system of tweedle dee and tweedle dum, we will continue to suffer.   You just get a choice of drinking kool-aid or smoking tea while you suffer.

          •  Vote early and vote often!

          • Guest

            Republicans probably will vote often if they can.

          •  Show me one case of Republican voter fraud and I’ll show you 50,000 cases of Dem. voter fraud.  You’re either clueless or an instigator who doesn’t really believe the words he spouts, either way you’ve made the case for requiring an IQ test before voting. 

          • Anonymous

            Republicans do voter suppression, more so than fraud (there is no significant voter fraud, in terms of fraudulent votes actually cast, it’s a figment of the GOP’s imagination), but the Gov. of Florida and the Sec of State of Ohio seem to be interested in suppressing voters.
            Here is a case of GOP voter registration fraud: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/voter-registration-fraud-gop-backed-firm-spreads/story?id=17370445

          • http://partizensunite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=debate&action=print&thread=3012

             http://phoebe53.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/the-national-voter-registration-act-of-1993/

            http://www.examiner.com/article/north-carolina-man-brags-on-facebook-about-voting-multiple-times-for-obama
            http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2954562/posts?page=99https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uVhhIlPk0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSrcNvJzBQ&feature=relmfuand these are just some from early voting this year, do you want all the cases of acorn fraud from 2008?

            Apparently BDN doesn’t like my video links because they show the truth but it’s funny they let a liberal post a video link.

          • Anonymous

            99,996 examples to go…

          •  How do you get 99,996 more examples to go out of 50,000?  Lack of math skills explains why Obama thinks 16 trillion in debt is a good thing.

          • Anonymous

            Two examples were given to you of gop voter fraud…

          • Millicent

            first of all….Freerepublic? Is their server a commodore 64? Time for an update, and some more reliable sources than what you have posted – as for your video links, DISCUS may not have allowed the link to be posted as there might have been some kind of issues with the links. 

            Second of all – look into the voter registration forms that were destroyed by a group hired by the republican party, and another group that was out registering voters, but refused to register any one from the democratic party. There’s a republican registered woman that just got arrested for altering absentee ballots – another one who tried to vote twice – oh, and how about that redistricting and voter ID bills which are essentially a poll tax, and makes it very difficult for the poor and the elderly to vote?  

            I’ll let you go google that. I’m not going to do your research for you. I’m sure freerepublic will have every excuse in the book for all of these – oh, and btw, JimRob (aka rimjob) refused to support Romney. He threatened kicking anyone off of the site that did support him. Was adamant about it….he sure has changed his tune on that. 

          • Anonymous

            Republicans are also very, ahem, invested, in perpetrating fraud through electronic voting machines.

          • Guest

            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/05/1156368/-Voter-Fraud-Found-Republican-attempts-to-vote-twice

            —Voter fraud found — Republican attempts to vote twice.

            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/24/1149641/-Breaking-GOP-Caught-Red-Handed-Voter-Fraud-in-Indiana

            GOP Caught Red Handed, Election Fraud Indiana

            I realize you will dismiss my links as I will yours that’s why I only threw up two. 

            Voter fraud is a myth a story began by tea publicans. Basically the GOP has screamed the loudest about this. Usually he who screams the loudest is the most guilty. But the truth is it’s virtually non existent. UFO sightings are more common than the fraud the teapublicans are crying wolf over.

            How long have you been posting here? I’ve been here 3 years. Your attempts at insulting me are ridiculous and don’t show much class, Phoebe.
            Excuse me now,  the polls are open and I’m going to vote for Obama.

          • Anonymous

            Phoebe obviously has never heard the expression, “Be careful what you ask for,” wbt.

          • Guest

            ;)

          • Anonymous

            Provide us your evidence and while you’re at it, be sure to report it to the Secretary of State.

          • Anonymous

            What goes on with the wbt30’s of the world is: …they accuse others of what they themselves do….or would do if they could get away with it. Any psychologist will tell you that. Here’s an example……my son-in-law was always accusing my daughter of cheating on him…….guess who was really cheating ?  

          • You? :D

          • Guest

            KikiEm, I posted links that proved what I said. I unlike many on the ‘right’ don’t cry wolf.

          • Anonymous

            The one found case in Maine by the two Charlies: a republican father voting for his daughter.  Where have you been?

          • Anonymous

            Sorry, but I won’t be volunteering for the Ds *because* I take nothing for granted.

      • Tom Russell

        And this country will suffer like it never has before.

        • Anonymous

           well the R’s will make it FEEL  like we are suffering and will try to make us all miserable, IF they loose …Sore loosers , angry  vengeful lot.  

          •  Obama is the one that’s calling for revenge. 

            How many stories do you hear about Republicans taking revenge on Obama supporters as opposed to Obama supporters taking revenge on Romney supporters, I know, I know (waving hands wildly in the air)  NONE. 

            Who is threatening a riot if Obama loses?  I know, I know (again waving hands wildly in the air) Obama supporters!!!!

          • Guest

            It’s obvious.

          •  Since the Tea Party hasn’t threatened anyone it’s called CHANGE not revenge.  You don’t have a clue as to what you are speaking of. 

          • Guest

            Do you enjoy your attempts to belittle and insult people? Is that all you have? 
            I know what I’m talking about—- Do you?

          • Guest

            Google TEA PARTY VIOLENCE

            It’s amazing at the videos and actual recordings of violence that exist. It’s hard to refute.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxhnOyv7WP8
            Tea Party members believe violence against President Obama is justified.

            http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20001259-504083.html
            Tea Party getting violent. Dems report threats, vandalism

            http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1118/violence-at-tea-party-rally-bare-knuckle-politics-in-the-streets

            Violence at Tea Party Rally

          • Anonymous

            ROMNEY is the Leader.  Obama needs to use his telepromter and hearing device so that he says what he is told.   that is NOT a leader. no wonder liberals are called sheep.

          • Guest

            You’ve said that before, over and over.

          • Millicent

            the only sheep that I can see are those that do not provide substance to the conversation – just insults. If that’s all you have, then you really don’t have anything at all.

          • Anonymous

            Truth will set you free. That millie is Substance. Romney has the truth on his side. That is fact.

          • Guest

            ☆ミ

          • Anonymous

            “Voting is the best revenge” is all he said.  Seriously, what is wrong with you? 

          • Anonymous

            Do you have a link to something showing Obama calling for some kind of “revenge?”

          •  His comment “Voting is the best revenge” is not as innocent as bradygirl2 makes it sound, it was directed to his supporters and implied that if they vote that would be the best REVENGE on the Republicans.   Why would he use the word REVENGE? 

            Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s brain, said  “After We Win This Election, It’s Our Turn. Payback Time.”

            Those two quotes are not innocent, they are ominous.  What President with any integrity would ever suggest that they will get even, exact REVENGE, on their opponents?  

            Btw, I’m a Libertarian, I stand on the side of fairness, the 2008 election was the first time I’ve ever voted a straight ticket.    I’m not a Romney supporter but I will vote for him because Obama has destroyed this country and if re-elected he will have nothing left to lose and will finish us off.   Now that’s REVENGE, destroying the country that he so despises.

          • Anonymous

            I am an R, but I lean more libertarian…but not as far as Ron Paul.  I hear political rhetoric in that line, rather than something ominous.  When people–particularly in my Party–think they get their instructions from their god, THAT is ominous to me.

            There is no revenge in my vote, but I am deliberately not voting for my Party’s pick for Senate.  Our federal government was designed for debate and deliberation, where representatives meet somewhere in-between (and not always in the Middle).  So my put to my Party’s candidates is this: Congress is for serious adults who deliberate and debate…if you don’t plan to do that, get a radio show.

          • Anonymous

            You’re off your rocker

          • If you’re voting for the lesser evil R, you’re no big L libertarian.

            Vote your conscience. Gary Johnson is the best candidate the L’s have had in years.

          • Millicent

            they just put pictures up of Democratic candidates sitting in the middle of gun crosshairs – death threats against our President have sky rocketed, and all you have to do is google “tea party violence” 

            revenge? Not this time around. Revenge was 2008 – this time it’s to finish the clean up that was started, which may have actually worked a little bit better, IF the republicans first priority hadn’t been to “make sure Obama had one term” – instead of doing the adult thing (Like Chris Christie has done) which is to work together to rebuild the mess. 

          • Anonymous

            Oh Millie, Millie, Millie !  You’re too funny.

          • Anonymous

            People at a rally were yelling “Boo!” in regards to Republican policies. President Obama made it clear that simply yelling and shouting don’t have any effect on Republican leaders (who in the view of many, including me, are bent on destroying our democracy). He urged the people to VOTE. Yes, he used the word “revenge,” in the sense of “the best revenge.” “voting is the best revenge.”

            I’ve taken my revenge on Romney, in that sense, as have many, many other Americans. 

            Republican leaders, meanwhile, are continuing to threaten to obstruct a duly elected government–again–if their candidate loses.

      • Anonymous

        LOL…instead of Sarah Palin….thank God we have had Joe Biden just one heartbeat away from the Presidency for 4 years.

        They’re going to put y’all back in chains.
        “I promise you, the president has a big stick. I promise you.”
        This is a big f—ing deal!”
        A three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs.”
        “Stand up, Chuck, let ’em see ya.”
        “You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent…. I’m not joking.”
        ‘There’s never been a day in the last four years I’ve been proud to be his VP,’                          
        —– Joe Biden —–
        Oh yah………he qualifies as a far better “court jester” than Sarah Palin.
         

        • Anonymous

          He’s such a winner, and the Press and the Left give him a total pass.

          • Anonymous

            No one can gain any kind of control on Joe Clem Kadiddlehopper Biden.  He’s like the 3 stooges all wrapped up in one person.

    • jdtex

      Hmm, the ‘Hope’ thing really didn’t pan out, but you have a good imagination.

      • The hope part is for same sex marriage but you seemed to miss that.

        • Tom Russell

          Oh good, another bible hater.

          • How does one hate the bible?

          • Anonymous

            Must be because you’re in favor of SSM, as I am.

      • Anonymous

        Hope?  Isn’t that what Romney is peddling?

        • Anonymous

          no that is what BHO the non resident has been peddling for 4 years. all one has to ask themselves, are you better off than you were 4 years ago? ya sure BHO, hope  and change to what? poverty?  how these kids are so easily swayed and brainwashed by these liberal teachers! bet these teachers have not told them how much tax they will be paying the rest of their lives and children’s lives and grandchildren’s lives to cover the liberal spending that has and is still going on. unbelievable

          • Anonymous

            well wall street is up 100%  in 4 years,   Bin laden is dead , unemployment is down 3% , financial reform and health care reform passed. Our relationships with the world have improved. Our troops are out of  Iraq and are coming out of Afghanistan.  YEAH we are “better off’ BUT there is more to do.

          • Anonymous

            not sure which star you are on but unemployment is at the same as when he got in, 8%, gas is more than double than when he got in, bin laden is nothing, they had him on the radar long before barrack said pull the trigger. killing him does nothing to create more jobs. you think Obama care is gonna be a plus? ha! hang to your wallet buddy and hope you don’t get sick. yes troops coming home is a good thing. I agree to that but being better off, I think that is a huge s t r e t c h!

          • Guest

            Gas was at an all time high under GW Bush. 

          • Anonymous

            how much was it when barrack took office?

          • Guest

            BDN

          • Anonymous

            I wonder how many of our Obama friends know the story about the Pied Piper?

          • Anonymous

            Still chewing on birther madness are you,?

      • Guest

        BDN

    • Anonymous

      sounds more like brainwashing

      • Anonymous

        How so?

        • Tom Russell

          Have you not been catching up with the real news?

      • And this is not? From the bible.

        Proverbs 22:6: Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

        • Anonymous

          While I agree with this bibical saying 100% what is your defination of raising a child up right  Kevy?

          • Anonymous

             I was raised up by the Bible, I walked away from it as soon as I could.  as soon as I, realized what harm religion did in this world.

        • Anonymous

          Ah, but sadly, someone along the way forgot to get the training and passed it along to the child……………………………….

      • Yawningattrolls

        Thank your education system – Maine schools and colleges indoctrinate students with left wing political theory – retired teacher here.

        • Anonymous

           bet the kids are better informed on the candidate positions then most adults are .They actually studied it .

          • Yawningattrolls

            Obviously you don’t speak to kids wanna-be.

      • Guest

        BDN

    • Anonymous

      This is why we don’t let children vote.
      See how easy it is for them to make poor life decisions?

      • Anonymous

         and yet they are usually pretty accurate  in “calling it”. They usually copy  and reflect their parents “votes “.

        • Anonymous

          That’s true…….but how proud their public school teachers must be as they beat their chests with pride. It cuts way back on the amount of bilge their Professors have to apply to their mush brains by the time they reach the higher levels of ………America’s Progressive training camps. (AKA  Colleges and Universities)

        • Anonymous

          Not likely, once they are teenagers the parents are never right about anything.
          Example, “please don’t don’t drink alcohol until you’re of age.” Results, busted for underage drinking.
          Example, “please don’t have sex until you’re of age.” Results, knocked up.
          Example, please don’t take drugs.” Results, busted again.
          Example, “please don’t take duck face pictures, they look stupid.” Results, Facebook.
          I could go on, but I think that you can see that you’re wrong.

          • Anonymous

            No Ranger….prettyfoolish is right on !  These underage drinking, knocked up, busted  teenagers is the ideal potential Liberal voter and just the type of person Democrats want to support with “social programs’…funded by tax-payers. And they get to stay on Mommy and Daddy’s medical insurance, until even Mommy and Daddy can’t afford to support them and the babies they keep churning out.

          • Anonymous

             The poorest counties in this state are red, the poorest states in this country are red.Who’s spitting out babies, these poorest places.

      • Guest

        BDN

      • Anonymous

        These kids voted after hearing the mean rant about Romney from their parents of parent.
        Our generation was told for us to do our homework and think for ourselves.  Today that is changed is Pablum for the Masses.  

    •  A vote for 8% unemployment, $4.00 gas, $4.50 a gallon heating oil, adding $4 trillion to the deficit in 4 years, not one single budget in 4 years, a promise to be transparent which was a lie,  a promise to post all legislation online for America to review which was a lie, worked for four years to further divide America, goes to church and listens to a pastor who openly hates America and continues to campaign while thousands in New York are without food, water, shelter and medical care from the ravages of Sandy.  Great choice kids.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, I agree with you.  You’ve got Romney down right.

      • Anonymous

        No president has lost reelection when the unemployment rate has been 7.9% or higher going back to at least 1890.

      • Anonymous

        You forgot about the two wars he started. You are talking about Bush, right?

    • Tom Russell

      When this country goes to pot, as it will if he wins election, I will remind you of your poor choice.

      • Guest

        BDN….

    • Anonymous

      And adults will choose President Obama:  What does 314.6 mean ??? an electoral LANDSLIDE by President Obama…http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.n
      Also this morning, a 91.6 CHANCE OF WINNING… for the PRESIDENT… BTW, 538 was the
      most accurate poll in 2008, not like some Faux News BS poll…

    • Anonymous

      Thank you to their parents for teaching them that honesty and integrity still mean something in this country.

    •  They voted Obama in because he’s black, now we’ll vote him out because he’s incompetent, that’s the way affirmative action works. 

      • Guest

        That was a racist comment.

  • I cannot wait for tomorrow to end. I’m sick and tired of reading and hearing about it. I will go vote tomorrow and hope for the best. I will vote for Obama, Yes on 1 and King also has my vote. Not sure how I’m going to vote on some other issues though but I will figure that out tomorrow.

    As for the story. It is nice to see that the younger generation is a lot more accepting when it comes to SSM and that trend will only continue to grow. Those against SSM are a dying breed.

    • Anonymous

      Kevin time will tell regarding SSM.  As for myself I too supported it when I was younger, however as I lived life I came to conclusion that most people who have same sex attraction have major issues and the last thing they need to do is get married.  They can’t even keep a partner for 6 months.  The issue isn’t about marriage the issue is they  want society to accept their aberrant lifestyle.  There are many people who have same sex attraction issues who are wonderful productive citizen who don’t support this nonsense.  They have learned to live with their affliction and don’t focus on their sexuality.

      • Anonymous

        Well, let’s think about a comment Steve Jobs left us with, “Your time here is limited.  Don’t spend it trying to live someone else’s life.”

      • Amusing you are. So if they only last six months why have my daughters two gay aunts been together for over 20 years?

        • Anonymous

           9 years here.  Most other gay couples I know have been together at least 5 years…

          • Anonymous

            Two wonderful ladies, great friends of mine, in a same sex relationship for 12 years together.
            As Kevin said, you’re amusing.
            Comment meant for letstrythisagain.

      • Anonymous

        I think it’s pretty stupid to accuse them of being promiscuous and then vote against them when they’re asking to have their monogamous relationship legally protected and solidified. That is what is nonsense. 

        • Anonymous

          No one ever accused an anti-gay of logic or consistency.

      • Hayseed.

        …and their decisions affect your personal life how now?   

        • Anonymous

          We aren’t living the way anti-gays would like to force us (and everyone else) to live.

      • Anonymous

        You are extremely ignorant. I would like you to know that I have been with my partner for almost 4 years (Which is 3 and a half years past the 6 month tap you put on us if you could add that high). We love each other and function in society just like a typical couple. Why is it that we cannot get married yet you can? Can you answer that for me? Why are you so hateful? And our love is not an “affliction” it is LOVE! Get over yourself it will pass sooner or later. YES ON ONE TOMORROW!

        • Anonymous

          John and I have been together 15 years.

      • Anonymous

        “There are many people who have same sex attraction issues who are wonderful productive citizen who don’t support this nonsense.”

        Just HOW MANY TIMES are anti-gays going to tell some version of their standard LIE that “I have gay friends, they don’t want equality, and they’re AOK with me telling them they are sick!”?????

      • Anonymous

         Don’t be silly…

      • Anonymous

        Generalize much do you?

      • Anonymous

        Maybe they haven’t stayed together because folks like you do not expect / want them to.

      • Anonymous

        You are HILARIOUS!!!!  More than 50% of Heterosexual marriages end in Divorce, that is after the cheating, abuse and disfunction before they are finally sick and tired of dealing with it.  SSM couples in the 5 states that already allow it, have statistics that prove their success rates are much much higher. 

      • Anonymous

         My dear gay friends in another state have been together for 45 years … your six months is not factual.  How many straight people “hook up” and hope into bed the first day they meet someone new?  Then, they start living together within five days — and it’s over in a month. 

      • Anonymous

        Your offensive stereotype about gay and lesbian relationships is inaccurate. I have been with my soul mate for over 20 years, and of the FEW gay friends we have we know one couple that has been together 40+ years, and another who have been together 10+ years.

        If “how long do you stay together on average” is a metric by which we judge eligibility for equal treatment under our laws, then civil marriage would have been abolished altogether decades ago.

    • Anonymous

      Hope you get what you asked for then if they all win!  Good luck in the next four years!

      • I’m not a huge fan of Obama, never have been. I didn’t vote for him 4 years ago but Romney flat out scares me so this year Obama is getting my vote.

        • Tyke

           Mitt Romney isn’t fit to shine John McCain’s shoes. There are a lot of folks who didn’t vote for Obama in 2008 who will this year.

          • Anonymous

            Hahahaha…..because obamas amazingly terrible record?

          • Anonymous

            Yup.  His amazingly terrible record saved this country from a lot worse.

          • Tyke

            No, because Romney is worse. A lot worse.

          • Anonymous

            what is worse about him? oh you mean he wants us to stop spending what we can’t pay for so we don’t end up like spain and france and many other nations going broke from living on borrowed money? how can it get worse than what it is? having a dictator that is lazy and has sold his soule to the russians ?

          • Guest

            Have you noticed the riots those austerity measures are causing. The same measures the repubs want here? We don’t need that and if you think people won’t revolt, keep pushing them. People will put up with just so much. So yeah we could be on track for the same protests other countries are experiencing.

          • Anonymous

            do you know why they don’t want it? because they will have to pay their fair share and they want the government to do that for them? who is going to pay for all the freebies you want?

          • Guest

            And there it is, the accusation of someone who thinks he or she pays all the taxes aiming the poison arrow at someone they think is living on freebies.
            What freebies will you be getting upon retirement.?

          • Anonymous

            none, only the ones I invested in. real estate

          • They both have horrible foreign policy views. Romney might actually be better in that regard. 

          • Try looking at the ” Good Record” !

            The “Terrible Record” is a concoction of the ” Terrible Right” propoganda machine!

          • Millicent

             McCain chose Sarah Palin over Romney for a running mate. That alone should tell you something.

          • Anonymous

            Go Gary Johnson, don’t let the government decide who you can chose, lets really change the country.

    • Anonymous

      it constatly amazes me that people buy into the 2 party system so much that they’re blind to see that it’s rigged and that no matter who you vote for they’re all bought and paid for.

      • Anonymous

        Exactly right go with Gary Johnson, even Rosanne Barr, but lets get real change in this country.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the future !

    • The future of acceptance. Such a horrible thing that is.

      • Anonymous

        Where have all the old white men gone
        back to their dark caves every one
        when will they ever learn
        when will they ever learn

  • Anonymous

    wow,, this is the saddest story of the day by far.. 

    • Anonymous

      Naw, sad would be to see them blindly absorbing the nonsense some of their parents “model,” such as, “We are a christian family.  We hate LGBT people (because we’ve run out of every other group to hate).”

    • Multiple people died today and you find this the saddest of them all? Speaks volumes of who you are.

      • Anonymous

        well kevin, i find your remark of, “the younger generations are also becoming less religious, which is also awesome”,, quite revealing of  just who you are. so before you mount yourself on some better then thou pedestal, take another look at yourself..

        • Anonymous

          You don’t need to be religious to be a good and moral person. Those things aren’t exclusive. There are obviously a lot of bad and immoral religious people out there too. 

          • Anonymous

            We see deeply immoral posters here push their own religion unwanted upon others.

          • Anonymous

            Amen!

        • Anonymous

          Most of the killing and dying throughout the history of the world is and was due to one religion or another.

          • Anonymous

            Especially the religion of atheism – Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot.  Yeah, that religion.

          • Anonymous

            Absolutely,  we can include those if you want.  But most do not consider atheism a religion,  so much as a lack thereof.  Doesn’t mean one can’t be spiritual,  just doesn’t practice any one of the thousands of religions.  I can still love my neighbor,  love my family,  and make any one of a number of moral decisions,  as a majority of all religions teach,  and not be a follower of any of them.

          • Anonymous

            One of Webster’s definitions: “religion” – a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.

            Many atheists show ardor and faith in their belief system.

          • Anonymous

            Courts say that atheism is not a religion.  You’re entitled to your opinion, but the opinions of judges count.

          • Anonymous

            If you practice good morals, you are heeding your conscience, which is innate, and has God as its source.  You are believing God’s precepts – you just haven’t recognized him yet.

          • Such a weak and tired argument. Are you going to post Pascals Wager next?

          • Anonymous

            I’ll take Pascal’s end of the bet – can’t lose in any way.  The atheist side of the bet has the potential to lose big, really big.

          • Anonymous

            It’s too bad you can’t mind your own business in such a personal matter.

          • Anonymous

             What a comment from a “man” who wants thoughts and opinions criminalized.

          • Yes, you can. That is the point you cannot and never will make an attempt to understand.

          • Anonymous

            There is no religion of atheism. The very definition of atheism is a lack of theism.

        • Being that I’m an atheist it fits who I am rather well I would say. So yes, I will place myself on a pedestal and it is fact that the younger generation is becoming less religious, which is awesome.

          http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/13/less-religious/

          And you know what is helping them become less religious? People such as yourself that want to deny others equal rights. The younger generation is turning away from religion because it is turning them off.

      • Anonymous

        Do your children have any type of belief system?  Do they celebrate Christmas and Easter?  Do you teach them anything?

        • My daughter is agnostic and if you don’t know what that is, look it up. Yes, her and I celebrate Christmas which she loves. It is her favorite holiday of them all. As for Easter she loves that one too.

          I teach my daughter to think for herself. I have told her more than once and now that she has an account she can verify this but she is most likely sleeping but I have told her if she wants to become a born again Christian later in life, that is her choice. If she wants to become Nun she is welcome to do that as well but she will do that by her own choice.

          My daughter also loves Halloween which is a no no holiday for a lot of so called Christians. That devil might come out. She sees it as free candy and nothing more.

          My daughter is taught to think for herself, to ask questions and when she does she is given an honest answer. If she wants to read the bible, I will give her a bible. If she wants to read the Koran, I will giver her one as well.

          One does not need a belief system to be a good person.

          • Anonymous

             well said, Kevin. I wish I could like more the once!

        • Anonymous

          It’s a bad sign when someone wants to pry into the private lives of another poster’s children.

    • Anonymous

      I hope you don’t have a New York or  New Jersey resident read this….they will bust your bubble about saddness in the news today. Kids getting involved in politics is sad? How?

  • Anonymous

    Pretty easy when they are driven to like the liberals in the school system!

    • I’m pretty sure my daughter being raised around her two gay aunts has something to do with it and not the so called liberal school system.

      • Anonymous

        Pretty sure you’re wrong because I wasn’t refering just to that issue. Why don’t you pay attention before attacking!

  • Anonymous

    Kids shouldnt be votong on gay issues!!! Period!!!

    • Anonymous

      Why not? So many of them have gay friends and family members. 

    • So they should have removed that question from the ballot and left all the others? 

      • Anonymous

        Did they vote on the bond issues?

        • Did you read the article?

          Students also approved Question 2-5 by wide margins. Those bond issues would authorize the state to borrow $76 million combined for infrastructure, higher education and conservation projects.

          • Guest

            Aside from the other matters they voted on, approving all of the bond issues is what concerns me the most. I believe that one or two have enough merit to be considered however Maine and the Nation aren’t in any sort of position to be borrowing more money. Bonds = Borrowing… and unfortunately they kids will eventually be the ones picking up the tab.

          • Anonymous

            I am sure the government school has never explained what a bond is.  For that matter neither have their parents.  I would not put much faith in these results, they are, after all children.

          • Anonymous

            I wouldn’t put any faith in your comment.  After all, you are an adult.

          • Anonymous

            And you really dislike the results.

          • Anonymous

            I did, and I must admit that I have indeed erred.  I will furthermore admit  that I have committed this act  on more than one occasion throughout my life. And you got me. 
              But in my defense,  the last paragraph of most BDN articles, is a notice of corrections made to the article.  Much like the one i’m making now.

          • And I admire you for admitting you made the mistake.

          • Anonymous

             Heh.

    • Anonymous

      WHY?????

      • Anonymous

        I guess because it disturbs anti-gays that young Americans reject their homophobia.

        • Anonymous

          You sound like an anti-christian heterophobe who is obssessed with the rest of the world being anti-gay.

          • Anonymous

            There’s NO SUCH THING as a “heterophobe.”  All LGBT Americans love our non-gay relatives and friends.

             

  • Anonymous

    “if you weren’t a liberal when you were 20 you didn’t have a heart…if you weren’t a conservative when you are 40 you didn’t have a brain.”  Winston Churchill

    • I’m neither a liberal or a conservative. I’m a registered independent.

      • Anonymous

        kevin, when i want your opinion i’ll give it to you.

        • Well you got my opinion without your asking so nanny nanny boo boo.

          • Yawningattrolls

            How mature – no wonder people don’t take you seriously, except for the other passive-aggressives…

        • Anonymous

           How unique.

      • Anonymous

        If you vote for Obama Kevin, it makes you a glutton for punishment.

        • No, it doesn’t.

          • Anonymous

            Look, I WANTED Obama to do well for the country (as should everyone).  I’m not so polarized that I wouldn’t have voted for him this time if I thought we were on the right track.  We just aren’t though.  On any number of issues we are either the same, worse or way worse.  I just can’t see another four years being any better.  I am okay with question one though.

          • Well tomorrow we get to find out what happens.

          • Anonymous

             well wall street is up 100% and Osama Bin laden is dead . And those who wrecked the economy are starting to go to jail!!!

          • Anonymous

            Wall street is still 2000 pts. below its peak.  The list of failures of the Obama administration is too long to list.  If they weren’t, he would be re-elected today.  He will not be.

          • Guest

            Romney is the wrong track here. 

      • Anonymous

        Independent = Democrat in wolf’s clothing.  Exhibit A – Angus King.

        • I was going to vote for McCain till he choose Palin and when Romney choose Ryan any thought I had of voting for him flew out the window.

          • Anonymous

            Bull.

        • Anonymous

          I think calling someone a Democrat is a compliment, but Heis meant it as an insult, which is the usual reaction from an anti-gay when they want to whine over an incontrovertible fact a normal, non-homophobic person has posted.

        • Ideologically one can be closer to the left or right. Though that doesn’t make one a partisan. Two different things. Independent doesn’t mean exactly 50% right and exactly 50% left, it means they vote their conscience, not a party. 

    • Anonymous

      “Give us the child for eight years, and we’ll make them a Bolshevik forever”  – V. Lenin

      • Anonymous

        Isn’t this why right-wingers want to “home school” their children?  Hide evolution and the Constitution from them?

        • Anonymous

          On the contrary, it’s so we can tell them the truth about both.

          • Anonymous

            Define your”truth” and we’ll talk.

          • Anonymous

            “You’ve got to be taught

            To hate and fear,

            You’ve got to be taught

            From year to year,

            It’s got to be drummed

            In your dear little ear

            You’ve got to be carefully taught.

            You’ve got to be taught to be afraid

            Of people whose eyes are oddly made,

            And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,

            You’ve got to be carefully taught.

            You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,

            Before you are six or seven or eight,

            To hate all the people your relatives hate,

            You’ve got to be carefully taught!”

             

        • Anonymous

          Is that not ok with you? Oh open-minded one?

          • Anonymous

            You seem to be looking for a fight.  No, thanks.  Try an anti-gay, they always go off half-cocked.

      • Proverbs 22:6 says, “Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.”

        See how that works both ways. What your quote and mine from the bible proves is that any sort of indoctrination is a horrible thing.

      • Anonymous

         And the schools now have them for at least 12, 14 or more with head start and pre-K.  and another 4 or 5 with college. 

        • Anonymous

          What’s the problem, you’ve got home schooling for your own children, maybe private school–or are you really saying you don’t want public schools, education only for the wealthy like 500 years ago?

          • Anonymous

            The problem is not with the concept of public schools. It is with liberal teachers who think their job is to teach students what and how to think.

          • Anonymous

            And awards and ribbons for being the “last winner” George Carlin

          • Anonymous

             Haven’t been in a public school lately,  have you?

    • So 30 is the prime voting age? Sounds about right.

      • Anonymous

        Well, the GOP has used their increased numbers in state legislatures to pass all sorts of voter SUPPRESSION stuff.  I’m sure the “Gay Obsessed Party” would love to restrict voting to the 1%.

  • Anonymous

    “On Question 1, the ballot measure that would legalize same-sex marriage, students voted by a wide margin to pass the measure. More than two-thirds of students, 68 percent, voted “yes,” compared to 32 percent who voted no.”

    I love to hear that! 

    • And it is sending the no supporters into a whirl wind of crazy. That is the best part of it all.

      • Anonymous

        While I want anti-gays to come to accept their defeat, since the real defeat happened in 2011, I see no real reason to rile them up further, they in turn rile up their young punk children to go out and commit hate crimes.  If only for the protection of LGBT Americans, we need to let anti-gays down softly.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe this story one bit.

    Let me ask this, Why would you think that college students are 90% liberals, Their egos strut around claimming inteligence, and anyone that smart can’t be liberal.. liberalism is for the lessor minds.. Yet they might confuse Liberalism with being a Democrat.

    • Anonymous

      You really do ignore every single fact you don’t like, don’t you?

      • Anonymous

        That’s what psychologists tell us about those afflicted with the mental disorder homophobia, yes.

    • Anonymous

      Psychologists identified homophobia as a mental illness and published their results in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health in 1953.  Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.  That might be the reason that poster refuses to believe that Maine students reject the homophobia exhibited by a dwindling few.

      • Anonymous

         “Homophobia” means “fear of people.”  So yes, homophobia may actually be a mental illness.  Opposition to same-sex marriage, on the other hand, means that someone who opposes probably has a fear of God.  The Bible tells us that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

        • Anonymous

          Nope, it means fear and hatred of LGBT Americans, and opposing marriage equality is being anti-gay, spare us your tiresome and useless denials.  Even your claims about God are lies.

      • Anonymous

        In 1953 homo0sexuality was considered a mental illness as well.  

        • Anonymous

          Those same psychologists recommended reversing that error in 1953.  It was reversed nearly 40 years ago.  Spare us your ancient history factoids.

          • Anonymous

            And maybe the error was when they reversed their original opinion.

    • Anonymous

      Powerful
      people cannot afford to educate the people that they oppress, because
      once you are truly educated, you will not ask for power. You will take
      it.

      John Henrik Clarke
      Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_henrik_clarke.html#QgIXlRo4QM774h01.99
       

    • Anonymous

      “I don’t believe this story one bit.”

      Why would all these schools conspire to fake this?  Students, teachers, administrations, all just to make you uncomfortable with a “fake” result?  Wow, just wow…

      Psychologists identified homophobia as a mental illness and published their results in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health in 1953.  Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.  That might be the reason that poster refuses to believe Maine schools did this.

  • Anonymous

    These results go a long way in helping us understand why kids are not allowed to vote!

    • Because it shows how much smarter kids are than adults?

      • Anonymous

        No, because it reveals how they often have minds filled with the mush that their teachers have given them over the years.

        • Anonymous

          You mean mush like the United States Constitution and its guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law”?  Scary stuff, that Constitution is–to those anti-gays who seek to SUBVERT it.

          • Anonymous

            The Constitution says nothing about protection of alternative lifestyle choices with respect to marriage.

          • Anonymous

            Therefore, legalization of SSM is not covered.  Duh.

          • Anonymous

            You’re catching on!!

          • Anonymous

            Your marriage isn’t covered in the Constitution either.

          • Anonymous

            But it is in the Bible!

          • So is this…

            Marriage as defined in the bible and yes, they are all 100% factual. It is all in your bible for you to read.

            Man + woman 
            Man + Wives + Concubines
            Man + Woman + Woman’s property
            Man + Woman + Woman + Woman
            Man + Brother’s Widow
            Rapist + His Victim
            Male Solider + Prisoner of War
            Male Slave + Female Slave

          • Anonymous

            Keep in mind, that just because all of those actions are found in the Bible, it doesn’t mean that God supported them!  The Bible contains the ongoing story of God’s redemptive plan for sinful humankind, so all of those sinful actions are described in full detail within its pages.

          • Anonymous

            The Constitution doesn’t cover ANY legal marriage, but that does NOT mean that marriage equality is not a Constitutional issue, it is, anti-gays just seek to deceive others about the Constitution since anti-gays are DEAD WRONG on it, and courts are tossing out their specious arguments.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, it does, Amendment 9:

            “The enumeration in the Constitution,
            of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained
            by the people.”

          • Anonymous

            I’m sorry.  I just don’t see the connection that you’re trying to make??

          • Anonymous

            That’s because you don’t want to see the many ways anti-gays are violating the Constitution.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry, I just don’t believe the original framers of the Constitution had this in mind!  My opinion.

          • Anonymous

            When were you in school.  The constitution really is not being taught in the government schools.  I question whether you have ever taken a constitution course.

          • Anonymous

            Not only yes I have but other than the 2nd Amendment, it’s all very clear that the US is violating the Constitution by allowing any US State to deny same gender couples legal marriage.  “Equal Protection” has already been cited as precedent by several US State High Courts.

          • Anonymous

             They don’t even teach a proper civics course in school any more, never mind the constitution.  I would be surprised if any public school student has actually read the whole constitution as part of any class outside of college.

          • Anonymous

            It’s always so sad to read someone condemn all American students that way.  I could read and comprehend the Constitution by third grade.  It is short and to the point, for the most part.  Any American with reasonable reading ability can understand the basics of the Constitution, and that it is being violated by denying same gender couples legal marriage.

          • I asked my daughters history teacher at the start of the school year if the Constitution would be taught. His answer was……………………..

            Drum roll…. YES!

          • Anonymous

            I can see the class on the constitution now:

            “Class,this is the US constitution. A group of old white racist bigots wrote it 200 years ago. It is filled with quaint old ideas and since our glorious leaders do not follow it any way there is no reason to waste any more time on it.
            Now comrades, open your book on Marx and repeat after me….”

        • And what you are stating is 100% false.

        • Anonymous

          Check out the post from a kid.  The teachers did no “indoctrinating”.

          • Anonymous

            My daughter told me that her teacher wrote “Yes on One” on their chalkboard.  Is this not an example of a teacher abusing her position as an authority figure in a middle school?

          • And what sort of action did you take when that took place?

          • Anonymous

            I explained to my child how some teachers will try to use their positions of power to persuade their students’ to adopt their political ideologies.  It was a good opportunity to encourage my kids to think for themselves, in spite of the pressure that people in positions of authority will try to exert over them.

          • Anonymous

            A more believable reaction would have been this poster flying into a rage and tearing into the school for an angry confrontation with the teacher, even when the teacher showed the mom “See, I have ‘No on One” on the board too!” and then trying to get the poor teacher fired.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry, I’m not that much of an activist.  The teacher’s union would have supported this teacher and tried to destroy me.  That’s what they’ve come to.

          • Anonymous

            It’s so easy to make this claim without saying what school or teacher or who YOU are.  Let us know when the media reports a teacher who actually did that, and not some right-wing parent telling a lie.

          • Anonymous

            I didn’t go to the media with it.  Should I have?  I’m sure that the media would rally to the cause of a “No on One” supporter?  Not!  I have a career to protect.  Your side has driven many of us into the closet!

          • Anonymous

             Apparently you’ve never heard of Stockholm Syndrome.

        • Anonymous

          That mushy “Equal Protection” Clause of the US Constitution, huh?

          • Anonymous

            We all have equal protection, as human beings.  But you’re reading other rights into it that just aren’t there??

          • Anonymous

            I’m referring to the FACT that SEVERAL US State High Courts have held “Equal Protection” as precedent in establishing marriage equality, starting with Massachusetts.  I am NOT “reading” something “that isn’t there.”  These justices’ opinions COUNT now as PRECEDENT.

          • Anonymous

            Well, “Separate but Equal” was once held up by the courts as law of the land.  But later courts saw the error of the previous court’s way and changed it.  We’ve seen that nothing within the scope of law is permanent.  It all flows with public opinion at some point.

    • Anonymous

      As well it’s good to know where fascism lives.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, it lives within the Yes on One movement, who would like to create another “Hate” category by which to prosecute traditionalists.

        • Anonymous

          traditionalists who proclaim who can and cannot vote? That’s some extreme traditionalist. You kid no one.

          • Anonymous

            Adult citizens can all vote.  What are you talking about?

          • Anonymous

            Maybe Donkie is referring to what you wrote 2 hours ago:

            ” These results go a long way in helping us understand why kids are not allowed to vote!”

          • Anonymous

            I’m still not sure what you’re suggesting??  Do you want 12-year-olds to have the right to vote for real??

          • Anonymous

            No, but you did bring up the concept of denying votes, and we know that’s the GOP’s plan, to prevent properly registered voters who are likely not to vote GOP from voting through vote suppression.

          • Anonymous

            C’mon now.  You’re making this stuff up as you go along.  I never said anything about denying the right to vote to those who are qualified to do so.

        • Anonymous

          Just how many times are anti-gays going to WHINE that they are the “victims,” and their intended victims are “fascists”?

          • Anonymous

            Just anticipating what your group’s next moves will be . . . spot on, no??  Be honest now!!

          • Anonymous

            Please give up this fiction that anti-gays are “victims.”  Yeah, we all know, that’s been your line recently, but we all know that’s total fiction.

          • Anonymous

            I didn’t say that anti-gays are victims at this time.  What I said was that if your group has its way, that gays will be protected by “hate crimes” legislation that will then go after anyone who does not support gay marriage and the gay lifestyle.  You may not even realize it yourself, but I know how you operate.  It will come to this eventually.  You’ll see.

  • Anonymous

    Hurts when the kids reject your hate huh ?

  • Anonymous

    The indoctrination worked well.

    • LMAO!!!! You are amusing. As if the religious don’t try to indoctrinate children by telling them if they are not good and don’t love Jesus they will burn in hell forever and ever.

      Thanks for the laugh.

  • Anonymous

    Channel 5 news poll results for same sex over the week end.

    53% no
    46% yes

    Bet this best reflect the real vote not what the liberals want you to think so you do not bother to go vote no they want u to to stay home.

  • Anonymous

    Skulls full of mush unduly influenced by hyper-liberal educators.

    • This is from my daughter: In my school this is the first year I have been able to participate in a mock election and the teachers have never spoke or taught me anything about any candidate or have they taught us anything about same sex marriage. They told us to vote truthfully and what we believe in and to not worry because the ballots will be anonymous.

      And I don’t think you should be saying that teachers are trying to push for or against SSM if you are not in a school. So thank you for judging me I bet you didn’t know I am a straight A student and my head is not full of mush. So thank you for that lovely heart warming comment.

      Sincerely,

      Kevin_Of_Bangor’s daughter.

  • Anonymous

    As a (straight) member of the Baby Boom generation, I’ve had parents who wanted to keep homosexuality in the closet, peers who were uncomfortable with the subject, and children who don’t see what the big deal is. One parent and several peers have died. Gay marriage is inevitable.

  • Anonymous

    What the Republican party is about to discover is there are not enough old white guys to support what they have become.

  • Anonymous

    When only liberal philosophies are taught in school it’s no wonder these polls turn out the way they do.

    • Anonymous

      Do you consider civics classes teaching our nation’s students about the United States Constitution’s guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law” somehow a “liberal philosophy”?

      • Anonymous

        I am for SSM.  I do have 2 high school age daughters that both tell me that the slant toward Pres. Obama and other liberal teachings is rampant in today’s schools.  I’m not some right-wing extremist nor are they.  I have taught my kids to be OBJECTIVE.  It’s quite hard to do that in today’s world of polarization and seemingly openly liberal media.  When I was in school, both viewpoints about candidates and political issues were talked about.  Kids could then form their own opinions instead of having them pushed on them like they are now.

        Not only do I believe my kids, but I would feel just the same way as I do now if only right-wing bias was being taught in schools. Both are unhealthy.

        • Anonymous

          Thank you for your support.

          • Anonymous

            Oh, you are welcome.  My biggest concerns are about Government becoming too big.  One could argue that voting anti-SSM is a vote for big Gov.  Live and let live is a very meaningful phrase to me.  

          • Anonymous

            “voting anti-SSM is a vote for big Gov”

            One party always says it wants government out of Americans’ lives but wants INTO the lives of LGBT Americans.

        • trisailer

           Well, is it a liberal slant or is it the only conclusion you can come to if you use reason and logic?

          The SSM issue is a perfect example. The only objection to providing the same Constitutional rights and protections to SS couples is religious which is based on individual interpretation of a 2,000 year old myth vs. a clear definition of the word equal based on perfected law.

          The Obama debate is another that defies logic and reason. The president does not have the authority to do the things that need to be done, The Congress does. Logic says the issue is with the Congress, but they are getting a pass. We can argue if Obama has been persuasive enough, but there is no doubt about the republican desire to obstruct his every idea.

          Even a 5th grader knows the difference between a household budget and the US budget. Macroeconomics vs micro when talking about the debt.

          Last but not least, even a child knows the difference between “do as I say, not as I do”

      • Anonymous

        I really do not think you are a teacher.  YOu obviously are out of touch with the public school system.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, I know how anti-gays fear talking about the Constitution, and so instead you want to deflect and insult me instead of talking about how anti-gays are seeking to subvert the Constitution.

    • Anonymous

      Liberalism is a philosophy committed to the
      ideal of limited government and liberty of individuals including freedom
      of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe it started out that way, but limited government?  Now that’s a good one!

        • Anonymous

          The greatest peacetime (as opposed to a World War) expansion of the federal government was by George W. Bush.

    • Another 100% false statement.

    • trisailer

       Or maybe education is about teaching objective critical thinking.

  • Nice to see the kids vote.

  • Anonymous

    I am proud to say I voted for same-sex marriage.

    • Eric Jackson

      And we are proud that you voted.  It doesn’t matter if we always agree, but we need everyone to stay involved. 

  • Anonymous

    I am proud to say I voted for SSM

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for your support.  You are protecting your own freedom and equality as well.  Look closely, and you will see anti-gays don’t only want to tell LGBT Americans how to live, they want to tell YOU how to live as well, by depriving you of genuine sex education.  They want to teach “abstinence-only” instead, which is really just religious programming.

      • That is my daughter. I setup her account tonight and she knows more about SSM than most adults having two gay aunts who she loves dearly.

        • Anonymous

          Thank YOU too.  Please always speak up for your sister and soon to be sister in law.

  • Anonymous

    I am proud to say I voted for SSM

    • Yes, that is my daughter. I setup the account for her but she has complete control over it and sorry her comment was posted 3 times. The verify account didn’t work right away for her.

      • Anonymous

        Should teach her to never vote early.

  • Anonymous

    Does not surprise me of the results.  Public schools and the Unions behind the teachers have been pushing their agenda on our children for sometime now. 

    • Anonymous

      You mean how civics classes teach our students the United States Constitution and its guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law”?  Yes, upholding the Constitution is something that liberals support but reactionaries oppose.  It seems the Constitution is so very inconvenient to those who seek to tell everyone else how to live.

      • Anonymous

        Liberals support murdering babies before they are born too. That is right, Liberals call them a fetus, even if they can live outside a womb at a certain age.

        • Anonymous

          Just more right-wing hate speech.  A fetus is NOT a “baby.”

          • Anonymous

             And to those of us with religious beliefs that cherish unborn children, your remark is every bit the “hate speech” of which you accuse us.

          • Anonymous

            tell that to the ones who have been born, trying to be aborted or were born too soon.

        • trisailer

          Aparently it is righty’s who support murdering babies because their opposition to sex education, and ineffective “just say no” approach produces twice as many unplanned pregnantcies. There is not a shread of proof that making abortion illegal again will save a single fetus, but lots of proof that it will kill many more mothers and create another black market for abortions that kills just poor  mothers.

          The right claims to want to save fetus, but then punish the children by denying them basic medical care and support after they are born. The right is directly responsible for killing millions of babies through it’s support of poverty and war.

          Apparently these young voters are smarter than you think.

          • Anonymous

            What has sex ed done in what 40 plus years? taught them younger and how to have sex better, yea liberals done a great job.

          • trisailer

            The cultural changes that have occurred were inevitable, but I think that our young people are making better choices about sex because they have better information. I think that was true for my own kids.

            Sex education gives young people a better opportunity to manage their choices. Most of the studies I’ve read say that educated young people do a better job of managing their sex drive than those that are only taught to deny them. This is apparent in the number of teen pregnancies in the bible belt vs. the northeast.

            Pretending that these choices don’t exist and that sex is not a powerful drive leaves the results up to chance. Learning about choices and consequences makes them better decision makers.

          • Anonymous

            One of the reasons why pregnancy’s are younger now. I do not pretend, but when we started teaching children things that they did not know before entices them.

          • trisailer

            Human sexuality is a powerful internal force. I don’t think that external (culture) forces come close to these internal forces which throw young people a serious curve ball.

            I think as parents and teachers it’s important to help young people understand these forces so that they can make better choices. Life is all about choices and the consequences they produce. Teaching young people about the changes that are happening in their bodies and the importance of managing these powerful internal forces is the best way to produce better results.

            We all have heard the stories about the farmers daughter and catholic girls. The lack of information makes them more vulnerable not less. 

          • Anonymous

            so we need to teach 8 year olds, so they can know more and have those internal forces come forward sooner.

    • This is from my daughter: In my school this is the first year I have been able to participate in a mock election and the teachers have never spoke or taught me anything about any candidate or have they taught us anything about same sex marriage. They told us to vote truthfully and what we believe in and to not worry because the ballots will be anonymous.

      And I don’t think you should be saying that teachers are trying to push for or against SSM if you are not in a school.

  • 25% of the vote not counted, this is an outrage! The liberals done fixed it again, I knows it! I deamand a recount!

  • Anonymous

    Are these students just plain stupid?; I don’t think so.  They know darn well Oblama will take care of them and they will never have to work for a living under the Oblama administration!  This stuff is for real, Folks!

    • Anonymous

      If it was for real, you wouldn’t have to INSIST it’s “for real.”

  • Anonymous

    Shows the Liberal teachings in the school system.  

    • There is no liberal teachings in the school system.

      • yes there is 

        • Anonymous

          Only if you think teaching our students the Constitution is “liberal.”

          • Anonymous

             That’s a laugh from the gay who doesn’t believe in religious freedom.

          • When did they start teaching the constitution in the liberal.school system!

      • Anonymous

        You, have not been in the school.

        • I just have a daughter in the 8th grade but I have no clue what goes on in her school, none.

          • Anonymous

            Finally from somone, the truth, instead of the other poster’s claim “my daughters say it’s liberal indoctrination,” which is just what they say to their right-wing dad to get the keys to the car.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunate kids are brought up with so much liberal media. It breaks the very fabric of our schools.

    • Is that you Rush?

      • Anonymous

        You mean Lush Rimbaugh?

      • Anonymous

        Mis-informed as usual. I do not listen to Rush, nor do I listen to the Liberal media, well other than the BDN lol

        • Anonymous

          “the liberal media” means yup, he listens to Lush Rimbaugh and repeats every word out loud.

    • haha yeah right, not true at all

      • Anonymous

        Just look at the shape of a lot of our schools, and the problems.

    • Anonymous

      Teaching students about the United States Constitution is not “liberal.”  Our students know that the Constitution requires “Equal Protection Under the Law,” or at least 2/3 of them do.

      • Really..you still have no clue

        • Anonymous

          The several US State High Courts have the clue–they’ve ruled for marriage equality.

      • Anonymous

        Interesting that they are being taught so much about a particular cause. ThoughI have not seen two men or women have a child between themselves. “Equal Protection Under the Law” is certainly misused.

        • Anonymous

          Several US State High Courts have cited “Equal Protection” when establishing marriage equality for LGBT Americans.  These justices’ opinions that it’s precedent COUNTS.  Your nasty opinion doesn’t count for diddly squat.

          • Anonymous

            Fortunate for Liberal’s this is still the U.S. and I have the right to my opinion and it counts as well as anyone else’s including yours. The difference is right or wrong, I may no agree with you or others, but at the least I will listen.

  • jdtex

    How shocking it is that people who have likely never worked a day would vote for Obama!  They are not necessarily dumb, just naive. Now, once they become dumb, they are officially liberals.

    • Anonymous

      Right-wingers have so very much hatred for everyone else.  That’s what their “Gay Obsessed Party” has been using to get votes for decades now–the only ones who benefits from what the GOP does is the 1%.

  • Eric Jackson

    Once the little buggers go from being spongers to earners, alot of their opinions will change.  :-)

  • Anonymous

    If I were asked who I would vote for when I was a child,  I may had said Jimmy Carter.  I would have had no idea why….

  • Anonymous

    The biggest difference between Obama and Romney:

    Romney would like us to have fewer poor people.
    Obama would like us to have fewer rich people.

    • Anonymous

      Fortunately, we all know Willard wants more POOR Americans, and won’t be fooled by such obvious right-wing propaganda.

      • Oh…but loony left wing propaganda is ok?….

        • Anonymous

          Democrats tell the truth, the GOP is The Liar’s Party.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Don’t forget the magic underwear.

    • Anonymous

      untrue– now explain how by giving more tax breaks to the wealthy will cause us to have fewer poor people, and then explain how them bush tax cuts are working for ya

  • Anonymous

    Some of you conservatives have really gone off the rails with your paranoia and hyperbole. You ought to stop posting, you’re really giving your side of the political spectrum a terrible name.

  • Anonymous

    This is the result of public school indoctrination by NEA trained staff members. One look at their monthly newsletter will show their one-sided, single brain cell thought process.

    • Anonymous

      Oh, boy, let’s not forget that standard GOP mantra today of “attack the teachers.”

      • Anonymous

        Oh, did I forget to mention that I’m a recently retired teacher who has been watching this foolishness develop for decades? It has been the slickest propaganda program ever foisted upon children. “Act Up” could never make believers out of mature adults, so they started in the schools in the 60’s.

    • trisailer

       Looks to me the result of educators effectively teaching critical thinking skills.

      When I listen to the rants from the right that are all motivated by religious beliefs, Fake news that spreads lies and propaganda and the anger of these old white guys that is based in racism and bigotry I am relieved that our young people have not bought into it.

  • Anonymous

    and this is exactly why there is no hope for the country.

    • Anonymous

      It’s just so sad that anyone would think, let alone post here, that MORE equality is somehow a bad thing–and that is exactly what anti-gays are saying, that freedom and EQUALITY are somehow “bad” for America.  I take it as proof that anti-gays are what is really bad for America.

  • orringtonmom (D)

    excuse me while i put on my shocked face… 

  • Anonymous

    I just saw a 12 millon person poll and Mitt is ahead

    • Anonymous

      By not telling us which one it is, we can be sure it’s something from WorldNetDaily or worse.

  • Anonymous

    This article proves that every penny spent on the children’s private school education is a penny well spent.  Perhaps the government schools could teach exactly what the Yes on 1 crowd has been doing in this state.  Here is an example:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSfTh3SEhoA

    • Anonymous

      Is there really a need for this wild paranoia? You really can’t imagine a scenario where someone would come to support Obama or same-sex marriage without being indoctrinated or whatever? Really?

    • Anonymous

      That was one lousy example, of a bunch of silly “scary” music as anti-gays fake people stealing their Hate Signs, as if Yes signs weren’t stolen more.

      Look, not, we are just not impressed with your propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s more evidence of indoctrination of our youth.
    http://www.wlbz2.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=1942721738001
    Why doesn’t the BDN show both sides to a story?

    • Anonymous

      Is this the event where the students themselves asked the questions and the anti-gays act like it’s all the LGBT community group’s fault?

      Fail.

      • Anonymous

        Gorham proves that gays are about the bedroom not the lies they tell about loving family.If they loved their family they would get help not hurt them.Tells all when the gays go in a school to teach a class without parents consent.

        • Anonymous

          No use lying, the WLBZ article makes it clear the students asked the question.

  • If today’s students were learning anything about the constitution, the results of this mock election would put Ron Paul at 100 percent ahead of the others, no incumbents would be re-elected, and same sex marriage proponents would be ridiculed and laughed out of town. 

    • Anonymous

      Where–just WHERE–in the US Constitution does it say LGBT Americans are not citizens and are not guaranteed “Equal Protection Under the Law”?

  • trisailer

    Hopefully this is a indicator of how the election will turn out. I wonder if the school elections included republican efforts to disenfranchise voters by creating obstacles to voting. Did they make blacks and poor people wait in line for 6 hours to discourage them from voting?

    The difference between our youth and the angry old white guys is that our youth understand that we have choices and managing their lives is about making the right choice. The angry old white guys think that they can make the wrong choices go away and that they can enforce choice by inflicting pain and suffering, but young people are not buying it.

    Fortunately the younger generation cannot be as easily distracted by social issues. They can see that their individual efforts are rewarded and they can achieve success without damaging others.

    They have not been brainwashed into believing that killing millions in some foreign land is in any way productive for our country. They haven’t lost their objectivity through years of carrying the stress of being fired so some CEO can make millions.

    My own kids, who are 28 and 31 grew up knowing what hard work is, what personal integrity is. They know what it means to create a life that they are attracted to and they know that they don’t have to make others suffer to do it.

     

    • Anonymous

      George Soros, Ted Turner…democrats are the ones killing the middle class.  More regulation under Obama than any other president.  That kills small business.  Who do you think wants more regulations to kill small business?  Big business.  Please educate yourself and stop calling me a racist for being a republican.  I am sick of it.  If you can’t tell me why the democrats are better for this country than stop typing.

      • Anonymous

        Let me make it easy–Romney isn’t specific about ANY of his “plans,” except for his plan to HURT loving, committed same gender American couples, and his plan to VIOLATE the Constitution to do that.

    • Anonymous

      George Soros, Ted Turner…democrats are the ones killing the middle class.  More regulation under Obama than any other president.  That kills small business.  Who do you think wants more regulations to kill small business?  Big business.  Please educate yourself and stop calling me a racist for being a republican.  I am sick of it.  If you can’t tell me why the democrats are better for this country than stop typing.

      • trisailer

         Why do labor unions support the democratic party while the republicans seek to weaken and destroy them for a start. You only have to look at the results of 8 years of Bush to see the difference between R’s&D’s.

        Regulation is not what’s killing small business. Small business compete with other businesses offering the same products or services. They all have to meet the same regs. What they need is customers and that involves people with jobs and money to buy.

        I don’t know where you get the racist rant from. I was referring to Florida’s gov Scott refusing to increase the early voting hours causing people to have to wait in line for hours and hours hoping they will not vote. Republican attempts to change to voter practices when there is no voter fraud is going on in every republican state.

    • Anonymous

      You’re right about the SIX HOUR LINES to vote in poorer neighborhoods in Florida and Ohio.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t the BDN publish the letter to the editor writtten to the Portland Press Herald by the student who reported the “tolerance” she observed from the Yes on 1 supporters.  
    http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/letters/vote-yes-on-question-4-to-keep-buses-vans-rolling_2012-11-03.html
    How about the BDN stop being so biased in order to support whatever they endorse, which normally goes against what the people endorse.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe because no one believes such lies?  Face the fact, anti-gays have been WHINING that their intended victims have “picked on them” for years, but when we ask anti-gays for PROOF, all we get is the self-serving wild claims of anti-gays themselves.  The letter writer didn’t identify her alleged group, didn’t refer us to any arrest record–just more anti-gay lies.

      Fail. 

  • Anonymous

    Wonder whether History, Finance or a JOB after High School is over is taught, i.e. things like WW II, Korean, Vietnam, September 11th, how to balance your checkbook or buy a house  ??

    Five trillion in debt the past 4 years but as stated earlier many kids think Obama will pay for everything and they will never have to work.  

    Until the money runs out (Jan, 2013) AND the fat, dumb & happy CONGRESS decides they have to do something.   OR all the high salary, great benefits DC &  govt jobs nationwide will end.

    The BDN should run a ” POLL QUESTION ”  APRIL 16TH after adults have filed their 2012 individual INCOME TAX Returns !!

  • Anonymous

    Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

    • Joseph

      Hahaha. Forgive you for being a blind man stating he can see. 

  • Anonymous

    The YOUNG people of Maine have called it just right and spot on.  Obama, King, Michaud, Pingree and YES ON ONE will be VICTORIOUS !  Great job kids !  And to the Republican Party, after you LOSE on election day 2012, I urge you to learn from this and be humbled by it.  Endless anger, bullying, rabid and irrational hate-filled delusional talk about our good President not being from America, and claiming he isn’t a Christian, and being so extreme and driven by an extreme ideology to the point that you demonize compromise, and attacking the poor, and attacking working America, and attacking the environment, and attacking civil rights of all kinds, and attacking anything government even though you yourselves use government in many ways all the time, and attacking other Americans who may of a different race or ethnicity or orientation, and the list goes on, will NOT serve you well at all going forward.  Republicans, America is changing.  We are moving into the FUTURE.  Will you have a place at the table?  Or will you dig yourselves even deeper into the extremist and anger-filled realm of the TeaParty, and Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News?  Or will you return to your moderate roots and restore the legacy of Lincoln, TR, Ike, Rockefeller, Chase Smith, and Cohen?  If after this election when you LOSE you decide to double down on your self-imposed marginalsm, you will be OVER and an ever-SHRINKING party as the demographics of this nation continue change and transform the nation.  You must shed your fear, return to moderation, and cast of the extremist ideas that now hold your party hostage to reality and the future.  It is up to you.  I hope you learn the lessen.

  • Illegita-MITT!

  • Anonymous

    I have decided and it’s not either of the two hand picked people the government has chosen and tried cramming down the throats of the people so they can continue the destruction of America.

    • Anonymous

      This is a version of the #1 GOP talking point since the last presidential election, “The Democrats are as bad as we are.”

      Fail.

  • Anonymous

    Of course Maine will go with Obama ….no surprise ….but we don’t matter thank god…

  • Tom Russell

    Now why in the world would the students do that?

  • Tom Russell

    Why in the world would they do that?

    • Because they don’t pay taxes yet!

      • Anonymous

        i always wonder about the ones that try to imply they pay so much in taxes.. its usually the ones that whine the loudest that pay the least

        • And you liberals want others to pay more…but i never hear of liberals flipping over there tax return a offering to.pay more!

          • Anonymous

            and giving more tax breaks to the wealthy makes sense, how them bush tax cuts working for ya?

          • Anonymous

            Warren Buffet has offered to pay more.  So has Bill Gates.  Shall we go on?

          • Anonymous

            Warren Buffet offering to pay more is a joke!!!!!   Why doesn’t he just pays the millions in back taxes that he ALREADY owes.
             

          • Anonymous

            because he didn’t hide it in an offshore account like romney?

    • Anonymous

      Because they want there to be an America still when they grow up, and they want America to be a free and EQUAL country.  Glad you asked.

  • Jake_OO7

    Breaking News…. Summers loses election #4.
    Republicans sure can pick a loser, first Summers, now Willard!

  • Anonymous
  • More proof that the current “public education” system must be abolished!

    • Anonymous

      More proof that when the older population of this state dies off so will their antiquated and outdated views, such as yours, die off.   Here’s to the new generations of Maine.

      • Just remember…you too will get old…then.maybe as a way to save money because the country has gone bankrupt …they will just MAKE you take a dirt nap..

        • Anonymous

          You’re hilarious…who are ‘they?’  Let me guess ‘they’ are friends with ‘them’…so ‘they’ and ‘them’ will MAKE me take a dirt nap.  LOL.  You know ‘they’ make medications for paranoia.

        • Anonymous

          Give up that long-debunked GOP fantasy.  We’re all tired of that same old GOP lie.

    • Anonymous

      Romney and his 1% would love that, then only the children of the super-rich would have an education.  How DARE you try to deprive everyone else of an education!

  • Anonymous

    This article is nothing but an attempt to advance a liberal hope that the election is already over.
    That is blatantly obvious in the first paragraph.  Its not surprising that the students would vote this way after 4 years of brainwashing from the liberal teachers union.  But  hey knowing how your kids are voting is a nice little feel good article.   I am dreaming of an objective newspaper!

    • Anonymous

      Really? Seems more like a report on the students’ mock election. What would an objective newspaper be? Lying about the results of their mock election in order to coddle conservatives like you and make you feel better? 

      • Anonymous

        …..

        • Anonymous

          There is nothing hateful about my comment. Quit screaming victim. 

          • Anonymous

            sorry that was meant for another post……

        • Anonymous

          …not sure why you assume I would want a newspaper report to contain lies for either side…  how about show the result of the mock vote without the leading paragraph making believe the election is over.   Just sayin…  

  • Anonymous

    I’m suprised that the Christian Civic League was not outraged that children were “subjected” to Question 1! According to what they preach even the question may be harmful for their health lol!

    • Anonymous

      The Christian Civic League is neither civic or very christian…..Oy.

  • Anonymous

    Where exactly do you think “morals” come from.  Perhaps a primordial swamp?  The morals of 2-3 centuries ago said it was ok to prevent “negroes” from entering France.  They even set up prisons at every major port of entry to keep the blacks from their homeland.  It is exactly because the “morals” of society seem to change at the whim of the majority that we should look to something outside of society as a measuring stick.  Some look to God.  Others look to Buddha.  Others look to some cosmic force, or Dianetics and self auditing.  Whatever your choice, it is clear that no one is a purely moral and good person.  Everyone is capable of hatred in the right circumstances. And some of us are capable of disagreeing with same sex marriage without it deriving from hatred for anyone.

    • Anonymous

      Denying gay people equal rights because you “disagree” with them is the same exact discriminatory behavior you supposedly denounce. That’s called hypocrisy. 

    • Anonymous

      Just what other reason than HATRED would cause someone to vote to HURT other people you don’t know and who have never caused you any harm?

    • Anonymous

      Not all gays are black, duh!

    • Anonymous

      Treating all families equally under our laws is a moral value worth fighting for.

  • Anonymous

    Actually there have been studies that indicate that younger generations are turning away from religion simply for the reason that they are turning TO other self-centered pursuits.  The last two generations of kids are the most self-centered people this nation has ever brought forth, and our country will be affected for years to come.  Why else would a 10 year old need a cell phone to go along with their DS and their iPod?  They are the least likely to help someone in need, and they expect everything to be given to them.  They have no need for God – they have themselves.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like you’re making garbage up. You don’t need to be religious to be moral. There are PLENTY of immoral religious people — just finger through the paper any day of the week and you can see that. You don’t have a monopoly on selflessness or being good. 

      • Anonymous

        What else is an anti-gay going to do but make things up?  We ALL know that anti-gays seek to HURT their enemies–and that attempt to HURT people they don’t know and who have never done anti-gays any harm is IMMORAL.

    • Anonymous

      Please cite these studies, then… or are you just making stuff up based on what you hear on talk radio?

    • Guest

      BDN

      • Anonymous

        Conservatives do prefer very slow, if not microscopic, change. Liberals embrace change and experimentation much more readily. You are correct. The world is not stagnant, and has benefitted over the centuries from both perspectives. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election

        • Anonymous

          No real conservative would ever agree to the attempt by anti-gays to subvert the United States Constitution’s guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law.”  That’s clearly the action of a disloyal reactionary.

          • Anonymous

            But they might disagree whether it should be applied in the instant case. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: No real conservative would ever agree to the attempt by anti-gays to subvert the United States Constitution’s guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law.” That’s clearly the action of a disloyal reactionary. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: Conservatives do prefer very slow, if not microscopic, change. Liberals embrace change and experimentation much more readily. You are correct. The world is not stagnant, and has benefitted over the centuries from both perspectives. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            Not if they are genuine conservatives–and how would a reactionary like you be in a position to judge conservatives, anyway?

          • Anonymous

            Your opinion…. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: Not if they are genuine conservatives–and how would a reactionary like you be in a position to judge conservatives, anyway? Link to comment Ninelake wrote: But they might disagree whether it should be applied in the instant case. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: No real conservative would ever agree to the attempt by anti-gays to subvert the United States Constitution’s guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law.”That’s clearly the action of a disloyal reactionary. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: Conservatives do prefer very slow, if not microscopic, change. Liberals embrace change and experimentation much more readily. You are correct. The world is not stagnant, and has benefitted over the centuries from both perspectives. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-s… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            Yes, and we know how anti-gays don’t want anyone else expressing our opinions.  Fail.

          • Anonymous

            Your opinion…. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: Not if they are genuine conservatives–and how would a reactionary like you be in a position to judge conservatives, anyway? Link to comment Ninelake wrote: But they might disagree whether it should be applied in the instant case. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: No real conservative would ever agree to the attempt by anti-gays to subvert the United States Constitution’s guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law.”That’s clearly the action of a disloyal reactionary. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: Conservatives do prefer very slow, if not microscopic, change. Liberals embrace change and experimentation much more readily. You are correct. The world is not stagnant, and has benefitted over the centuries from both perspectives. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-s… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            But they might disagree whether it should be applied in the instant case. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: No real conservative would ever agree to the attempt by anti-gays to subvert the United States Constitution’s guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law.” That’s clearly the action of a disloyal reactionary. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: Conservatives do prefer very slow, if not microscopic, change. Liberals embrace change and experimentation much more readily. You are correct. The world is not stagnant, and has benefitted over the centuries from both perspectives. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

  • Anonymous

    Yeah – like the Dred Scott decision, which remains a precedent case to this day.  In case you don’t remember, the decision, by the great judges of the US Supreme Court, held that slaves (and therefore blacks in general at the time) were not protected  by the Constitution, since they could not be citizens.  They, therefore, had no standing before the court and the case was sent down and reversed.  Those great judges, whose opinions matter far more than anything else we should look to.

    • Anonymous

      Dred Scott has NOT been “precedent” since the Emancipation Proclamation or the 13th Amendment.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      And life has gotten better since then… just as it will get better regarding gay marriage.

      And it won’t hurt you a bit.

    • Anonymous

      So you feel that blacks should not be citizens? What are you arguing for here, a return to the 19th century?

    • Guest

      Dred Scott decision—- March 6, 1857

      A bit outdated I’d say.

      The 14th Amendment, July 9, 1868 overruled it.

      • Anonymous

        It was an example only of the fact that judges don’t always get it right when viewed through the lens of history. I believe conviv was willing to let judges decide right from wrong for everyone. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election

        • Anonymous

          “judges decide right from wrong”

          Funny, that’s exactly what the Constitution says they are supposed to do.

          • Anonymous

            So you won’t mind if I am the judge?? Right, didn’t think so… From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: “judges decide right from wrong” Funny, that’s exactly what the Constitution says they are supposed to do. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: It was an example only of the fact that judges don’t always get it right when viewed through the lens of history. I believe conviv was willing to let judges decide right from wrong for everyone. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            Yes, I mind, unless you are genuinely a judge or justice.  If not, you have NO BUSINESS trying to judge others.  Even Jesus told us that.

          • Anonymous

            So you won’t mind if I am the judge?? Right, didn’t think so… From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: “judges decide right from wrong” Funny, that’s exactly what the Constitution says they are supposed to do. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: It was an example only of the fact that judges don’t always get it right when viewed through the lens of history. I believe conviv was willing to let judges decide right from wrong for everyone. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            Do you think you will fool twice as many readers if you post your same doggerel twice?

  • Anonymous

    Remember folks, the 2016 Presidential campaign starts tomorrow!

    • Anonymous

      Paul Ryan has arguably been campaigning for the 2016 election for some time already…

      • Anonymous

        He’s downright creepy.
        Although he does do a great Eddie Munster!

  • Guest

    —disqus stinks—-

  • tag

    Awesome idea. Let’s ask young children if they support homosexuality.

    • Anonymous

      No, what the schools asked is if they support “Equal Protection Under the Law.”  It seems YOU are the one who’s so all-fired interested in “gay sex.”  You brought it up.

    • Anonymous

      Awesome idea.   Just like when people drag their young kids to church and ‘ask’ them to believe in religion.  Try again.

    • Anonymous

      Awesome idea, let’s ask high school students if they support “Equal Protection Under the Law.”

  • Anonymous

    It’s just hilarious to see anti-gays whine and cry and stomp their widdle feet in anger that most Mainer students reject their attempt to HURT loving, committed same gender couples.  That’s why anti-gays are viciously attacking our good teachers.

    But what really makes me sad is to see anti-gays trying to DECEIVE readers about the United States Constitution and the Proper Rule Of Law the Constitution spells out clearly.  The only conclusion I can draw is that anti-gays are simply not loyal Americans.  We all know that LGBT Americans are currently being DENIED “Equal Protection Under the Law” in 44 US States.  We all know that the many major Christian and Jewish denominations who WANT to marry same gender American couples are being DENIED their Freedom Of Religion, and that anti-gays are NOT being denied their Freedom Of Religion when we refuse to join their anti-gay churches or let their anti-gay churches tell all other Americans how to live. 

  • Anonymous

    (This was supposed to be in reply to trisailer)

    “The president does not have the authority to do the things that need to be done, The Congress does.” 

    It is the President’s job to lead.  Pres. Obama has not been a good leader.  Not just on fiscal policies either.  The point is that young minds are being formed (at least at my kids HS) to choose party over substance.  This is something that I have taught them NOT to do.  If I thought Pres. Obama was the right choice this time I would have supported him.  Just as I supported Bill Clinton, twice.  I simply refuse to be a lemming to a party.  My support of SSM would be considered a (somewhat) liberal stance.  I do believe however that many Republicans will be supporters as this issue should not be one at all imo.

    • Anonymous

      We’ve seen the parties, especially Republicans, value and demand extreme purity. How often have we seen our Senators maligned as RINOs for voting on the issue and not with their party? Heck, it drove Snowe to retire! I think it’s disingenuous to suggest that it’s the young people starting this trend. 

  • Anonymous

    I’ll bite – why would Romney, or anyone for that matter, want more poor people?  They require more services and funds from those who are fortunate enough to find gainful employment, and they contribute very little in return.  Other than voting for the people who promise them more benefits (like 47 million on foodstamps), who benefits from having more poor people?

    • Anonymous

      When given the choice between more poor people or more profit, Romney’s company Bain Capital has a history of choosing the latter.

      • Anonymous

        Socialism or Capitalism . . . the same could be said of Microsoft, or any other profitable company in the world. And yet, Bill Gates and his wife created a foundation with some of their gains and donated $355 million to Rotary International to help in our fight against polio, which is now limited to 3 countries, down from over 100 just 25 years ago. Shame on those rich people, like Mitt Romney, who donated about $15 million to charity last year alone. Such a meanie!! George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were the 1%. I guess you despise them too! Just because Romney doesn’t wash his gains through a broken, socialist-leaning, inefficient government machine, doesn;t mean he doesn’t care about people. Stop buying into the rhetoric. Subject: [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election

        • Anonymous

          So when I answer your question, you change the subject…

          • Anonymous

            Anti-gays always do that when when we catch them lying.

        • Anonymous

          “Mitt Romney, who donated about $15 million to charity last year alone.”

          If that $15 million went to the Mormon church, the chances are good the Mormon leaders used his millions to commit criminal acts and throw anti-gay Hate Votes.  Even if Mormon leaders used his millions to proselytize, that is STILL NOT CHARITABLE.

          • Anonymous

            “Just because Romney doesn’t wash his gains through a broken, socialist-leaning, inefficient government machine”

            Traslation:  Ninelake is aware Romney hides his millions in an offshore account to avoid taxation.

    • Anonymous

      No one said Romney’s plan makes any sense, but he wants to make sure more AMERICANS are poor, all right!

  • Guest

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  • Anonymous

    Students vote Democrat, Military people vote Republican.. Just the way it is.

    • Anonymous

      no it isn’t—-“Update, Oct. 21: Fundraising numbers for the month of September show Obama continuing to dominate when it comes to contributions from the military. The new data, which came in after the story below was published Oct. 15, show he raised $142,197, just a shade less than he collected in August, his strongest month with this set of donors. Romney brought in $111,015 for his best month ever with military donors, but that was still 22 percent less than Obama received.”
      a Zogby poll from Sept 21-22 shows that President Obama leads Mitt Romney among veterans and military families, 54%-40%, and that lead expands to 56%-32%, when you include third party candidates, among all voters.
      That May Reuters-Ipsos poll  found a 44-37 lead for the President.

      • Anonymous

        Not talking about fundraising, Military people tend to vote right.. Thats a fact Jack..

        • Anonymous

          things change, the present military are kinda not too happy about getting lied into 2 wars by republicans , and thats a fact jack

  • Anonymous

    How is same sex marriage creating more equality?  If anything, it creates a “separate but equal” licensing system.  If homosexuals want to marry under the current law, they can.  That is equality.  If they want to marry each other, they have a separate, but equivalent status, but not the same thing.  In the current form of marriage licensing, men and women, with penises and vaginas, are allowed to get married.  They then go off on their honeymoon, or back to their dwellings, and copulate to consummate the legal marriage.  Homosexuals can’t perform the exact same act in their idea of marriage – therefore, it is not the same thing.  In fact, it will never be the same thing.  Marriage isn’t just about sex, but sex is certainly part of marriage.
    Supporters of same sex marriage forget that by allowing homosexuals to marry under the current marriage laws requires a redefinition of what marriage means to those of us on the other side of the issue.  Ignoring our concerns leaves a feeling that SSM proponents simply don’t care that it matters to many of us.  At the most base level, it may mean “I’m married, therefore you can’t mistake me for being gay.”  All of the rights sought by the pro-SSM lobby could be easily gained through the same laws that allow for married couples to gain them.  Simply make all laws using the term married to include “common law marriage” and then gays could seek the same benefits.  A much simpler process than trying to tell everyone in the country they have to agree with you.  

    • Anonymous

      No, homosexual couples cannot marry under the current law, that’s an outright lie.

      Your idea of setting up a separate system is unworkable, and unconstitutional. That didn’t work with segregation laws, and it won’t work with civil marriage for same-sex couples.

      I have voted YES on question 1, because we should allow ALL Maine families the opportunity to protect the lives they build together with civil marriage.

      • Anonymous

        The US Supreme Court established that “Separate but equal” is NEVER EQUAL, but try to get that through to an anti-gay that actively seeks to deceive readers about the Constitution and the proper role of the Courts.

    • Anonymous

      “penises and vaginas”
      “copulate to consummate the legal marriage”
      “Homosexuals can’t perform the exact same act”
      “sex is certainly part of marriage”

      Just HOW MUCH TIME A DAY do you fantasize about the private lives of others?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe for a minute that anyone who opposes same sex marriage wants to be involved in your life.  Most would prefer never hearing of it.  What you do in your bedroom, or in your car, or on the kitchen table, is your business.  And what I do in any of those places is mine.  SSM proponents made this a government issue once again.  Had anyone proposed that committed same sex couples should have the same legal benefits as heterosexual married couples, I could support that easily.  What I can’t support, and never will, is for SSM proponents to call their relationship “marriage.” Marriage is and has always been (legitimately, at least) one man and one woman.

    • Anonymous

      Having the same legal benefits as heterosexual married couples means having access to civil marriage though.

      You and your church are free to hold whatever views you want on marriage, but civil marriage is that set of legal benefits that we seek access to— so that’s what we must call it.

      • Tedlick Badkey

        They want their religion enforced through law.

        It’s sick, really.

        • Anonymous

          And they want to DEPRIVE these churches of THEIR Freedom Of Religion.  These denominations have married same gender couples in 7 US States and the District of Columbia:

          The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists
          The Episcopal Church
          Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
          Metropolitan Community Church
          Conservative Judaism
          Reform Judaism
          Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
          Unitarian Universalist Church
          United Church of Christ

    • Anonymous

      Then just WHAT was the 2009 anti-gay Hate Vote about?  It was ALL ABOUT anti-gays trying to interfere in the lives of LGBT Mainers.  Spare us your increasingly ridiculous anti-gay lies.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t disagree with your statement that there are immoral religious people.  That is not what the above comment was about.

    • Anonymous

      That’s what this whole mess is about.  If it wasn’t for immoral religious people, we wouldn’t have had the 2009 anti-gay Hate Vote.  These immoral religious people are 100% responsible.

      • Anonymous

        Hahahahahahaha. I hate lol, so hahahahahahahaha! From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: That’s what this whole mess is about. If it wasn’t for immoral religious people, we wouldn’t have had the 2009 anti-gay Hate Vote. These immoral religious people are 100% responsible. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: I don’t disagree with your statement that there are immoral religious people. That is not what the above comment was about. —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

        • Anonymous

          Why do you think you need to post your nonsense twice?

  • Anonymous

    Nice try – love being attacked for posting what others are finding to be true, and simple observation of any group of high school kids these days will bear out.  But here ya go:

    The researchers examined survey data collected since 1975 from high school seniors, as part of the University of Michigan’s Monitoring the Future project, and, beginning in 1966, from college freshmen, as part of the American Freshman survey by the University of California, Los Angeles.
    Data on life goals showed a shift away from those related to intrinsic values — such as developing a meaningful philosophy of life — and toward more extrinsic ones, such as being well-off financially — over the three generations.
    “Compared to boomers, millennials and Gen Xers viewed goals concerned with money, fame and image as more important, and goals concerned with self-acceptance, affiliation, and community as less important,” wrote the researchers in a study published online March 5 by the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

    • Anonymous

      No URL?  What’s your source?  Anti-gay Hate Cults are notorious for pretending to “quote” legitimate studies, and then lie about the legitimate study.  Without a URL, we’ll just have to assume you didn’t get this from the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

  • Anonymous

    George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln were the 1%.  We used to have respect for them.  So were FDR and JFK – how far we’ve come under our Commander-in-Chief of Class Warfare.

    • Anonymous

      Willard is the one who wants to do class warfare, to benefit his own class at the expense of all other Americans.

    • Anonymous

      take a look at the platform eisenhower ran on and see how low the republicans have fallen.

  • Anonymous

    “Couples” have no rights.  They are not recognized under our Constitution.  “People” – individuals – have rights.  Even the Loving decision states it that way.  Each member of a homosexual couple can legally get married today.  If they want to marry another person of the same sex, that is not allowed.  I, being a heterosexual, cannot marry someone of the same sex.  We are equal as individuals.

    • Anonymous

      Here are links to the 1,100+ benefits and privileges extended by our government based on marital status— these rights are denied to homosexual couples because we don’t have access to civil marriage, which is what is used to determine eligibility:

      http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/og97016.pdf

      http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04353r.pdf

      Your argument that gays and lesbians should enter into loveless sham marriages to achieve equality is a repugnant viewpoint that thankfully our US Supreme Court found unconstitutional when that same logic was used in Jim Crow era voting laws.

      • Anonymous

        And don’t repeat that anti-gay LIE, anti-gays, that we could get those 1,138 federal rights of legal marriage through contracts.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Soon, you’ll be able to marry someone of the same sex.

      I’m sure that gives you a shiver, now don’t it?

    • Anonymous

      Always with the LIES from anti-gays:

      “Each member of a homosexual couple can legally get married today.”

      No, LGBT Americans DO NOT have the SAME right to legal marriage as mixed-sex couples do.  The Iowa State Supreme Court unanimously established marriage equality in April 2009, and this is their answer to “You have the same right to marry someone of the opposite sex as anyone else”:

      “It is true the marriage statute does not expressly prohibit gay and lesbian persons from marrying; it does, however, require that if they marry, it must be to someone of the opposite sex. Viewed in the complete context of marriage, including intimacy, civil marriage with a person of the opposite sex is as unappealing to a gay or lesbian person as civil marriage with a person of the same sex is to a heterosexual. Thus, the right of a gay or lesbian person under the marriage statute to enter into a civil marriage only with a person of the opposite sex is no right at all. Under such a law, gay or lesbian individuals cannot simultaneously fulfill their deeply felt need for a committed personal relationship, as influenced by their sexual orientation, and gain the civil status and attendant benefits granted by the statute. Instead, a gay or lesbian person can only gain the same rights under the statute as a heterosexual person by negating the very trait that defines gay and lesbian people as a class-their sexual orientation.”

      http://www.iowacourtsonline.org/Supreme_Court/Varnum_v_Brien/Supreme_Court_Ruling/

  • Anonymous

    You mean 14th Amendment, which made it moot.  But, it was never overturned by the judges you favor so much, and it remains a standing decision of the US Supreme Court.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Didn’t need to be overturned by the judges.

      Not real hip on civics are ya?

    • Anonymous

      What is Nine even commenting about?

  • Anonymous

    Wonder if the teachers were teaching them how to vote!

  • Anonymous

    “Marriage is not the only worthy form of family or relationship, and it should not be legally and economically privileged above all others. A majority of people – whatever their sexual and gender identities – do not live in traditional nuclear families. They stand to gain from alternative forms of household recognition beyond one-size-fits-all marriage.”

    The above quote was taken from a website promoting the next step beyond the current marriage debate, by a group of over 250 LGBT activists and supporters.  They are concerned that the currently-framed debate about same sex marriage is the wrong argument.  They advocate a complete blurring of the lines in all relationships – essentially tossing out long-standing societal views of the importance of marriage and the benefits it provides.  Today’s vote is not the end to the denigration of traditional marriage by any means.  It is one step along the way.  Read it for yourself: http://www.unmarried.org/beyond-same-sex-marriage.html

    • Anonymous

      So you are arguing that we abolish civil marriage altogether? Good luck with that.

      I have voted YES on question 1, because I have been together with my soul mate for over 20 years, and there are protections civil marriage conveys that are unavailable through any other means.

      • Anonymous

        No, actually some of the apparently “more enlightened”LGBT community are proposing it. Another example of the slippery slope. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election ConvivialVisits wrote, in response to Ninelake: So you are arguing that we abolish civil marriage altogether? Good luck with that. I have voted YES on question 1, because I have been together with my soul mate for over 20 years, and there are protections civil marriage conveys that are unavailable through any other means. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: “Marriage is not the only worthy form of family or relationship, and it should not be legally and economically privileged above all others. A majority of people -whatever their sexual and gender identities -do not live in traditional nuclear families. They stand to gain from alternative forms of household recognition beyond one-size-fits-all marriage.”The above quote was taken from a website promoting the next step beyond the current marriage debate, by a group of over 250 LGBT activists and supporters. They are concerned that the currently-framed debate about same sex marriage is the wrong argument. They advocate a complete blurring of the lines in all relationships – essentially tossing out long-standing societal views of the importance of marriage and the benefits it… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

        • Anonymous

          I’ve already pointed out you LIED about who is doing that.

          • Anonymous

            So you deny the movement is founded by LGBT supporters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: I’ve already pointed out you LIED about who is doing that. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: No, actually some of the apparently “more enlightened”LGBT community are proposing it. Another example of the slippery slope. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election ConvivialVisits wrote, in response to Ninelake: So you are arguing that we abolish civil marriage altogether? Good luck with that. I have voted YES on question 1, because I have been together with my soul mate for over 20 years, and there are protections civil marriage conveys that are unavailable through any other means. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: “Marriage is not the only worthy form of family or relationship, and it should not be legally and economically privileged above all others. A majority of people -whatever their sexual and… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            No one cares about your nonsense.  It has nothing to do with marriage equality and “Equal Protection Under the Law.”  Go spout your nonsense at some anti-gay Hate Cult website.

          • Anonymous

            Yet you can’t avoid the fact of the list of donors and supporters behind the movement that would essentially eliminate any value placed on marriage of any kind in society. I gave you the website and all you can do is call it nonsense. Not like I made it up or it was hard to find. Supported by the LGBT movement itself. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: No one cares about your nonsense. It has nothing to do with marriage equality and “Equal Protection Under the Law.” Go spout your nonsense at some anti-gay Hate Cult website. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: So you deny the movement is founded by LGBT supporters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: I’ve already pointed out you LIED about who is doing that. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: No, actually some of the apparently “more enlightened”LGBT community are proposing it. Another example of the slippery slope. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election ConvivialVisits wrote, in response to Ninelake: So you are arguing that we abolish civil marriage altogether? Good luck with that. I have voted YES on question 1, because I have been toge… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

             Your drivel is as irrelevant as the other anti-gays who try to make a false comparison between loving, committed same gender Mainer couples and “marry my horse” and “marry my sister.”

            Fail.

          • Anonymous

            Yet you can’t avoid the fact of the list of donors and supporters behind the movement that would essentially eliminate any value placed on marriage of any kind in society. I gave you the website and all you can do is call it nonsense. Not like I made it up or it was hard to find. Supported by the LGBT movement itself. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: No one cares about your nonsense. It has nothing to do with marriage equality and “Equal Protection Under the Law.” Go spout your nonsense at some anti-gay Hate Cult website. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: So you deny the movement is founded by LGBT supporters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: I’ve already pointed out you LIED about who is doing that. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: No, actually some of the apparently “more enlightened”LGBT community are proposing it. Another example of the slippery slope. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election ConvivialVisits wrote, in response to Ninelake: So you are arguing that we abolish civil marriage altogether? Good luck with that. I have voted YES on question 1, because I have been toge… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

          • Anonymous

            So you deny the movement is founded by LGBT supporters? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election carrotcakeman wrote, in response to Ninelake: I’ve already pointed out you LIED about who is doing that. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: No, actually some of the apparently “more enlightened”LGBT community are proposing it. Another example of the slippery slope. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election ConvivialVisits wrote, in response to Ninelake: So you are arguing that we abolish civil marriage altogether? Good luck with that. I have voted YES on question 1, because I have been together with my soul mate for over 20 years, and there are protections civil marriage conveys that are unavailable through any other means. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: “Marriage is not the only worthy form of family or relationship, and it should not be legally and economically privileged above all others. A majority of people -whatever their sexual and… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

        • Anonymous

          The “slippery slope” argument is nonsense, and a poor, poor reason to stand against the equal treatment of fellow Americans.

          Seriously, nowhere else has same-sex civil marriage led to legalization of polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia, or incest.

      • Anonymous

        No, actually some of the apparently “more enlightened”LGBT community are proposing it. Another example of the slippery slope. From : Disqus Subject : [bdn] Re: Students choose Obama, King, House incumbents, same-sex marriage in mock election ConvivialVisits wrote, in response to Ninelake: So you are arguing that we abolish civil marriage altogether? Good luck with that. I have voted YES on question 1, because I have been together with my soul mate for over 20 years, and there are protections civil marriage conveys that are unavailable through any other means. Link to comment Ninelake wrote: “Marriage is not the only worthy form of family or relationship, and it should not be legally and economically privileged above all others. A majority of people -whatever their sexual and gender identities -do not live in traditional nuclear families. They stand to gain from alternative forms of household recognition beyond one-size-fits-all marriage.”The above quote was taken from a website promoting the next step beyond the current marriage debate, by a group of over 250 LGBT activists and supporters. They are concerned that the currently-framed debate about same sex marriage is the wrong argument. They advocate a complete blurring of the lines in all relationships – essentially tossing out long-standing societal views of the importance of marriage and the benefits it… —– Options: Reply with “Like”to like this comment, or respond in the body to post a reply comment. To turn off notifications

        • Anonymous

          Complete nonsense…

        • Anonymous

          The “slippery slope” argument is nonsense, and a poor, poor reason to stand against the equal treatment of fellow Americans.

          Seriously, nowhere else has same-sex civil marriage led to legalization of polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia, or incest.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      So… you just came here to troll rather than comment on the story.

      Time to start flagging.

    • Anonymous

      “a group of over 250 LGBT activists”

      Funny, that isn’t at all what their website says.

  • Anonymous

    Funny how the students can figure out that Romney is lying to them.
    Too bad many adults lack the same capacity.

  • This is absolutely an outcry! If the school was discussing same sex marriage and making children debate on the topic it is just plain wrong. I hope every parent that has children in school reach out to the schools and voice their disgust in this rediculous effort to sway children and put them in an uncomfortable spot with how they feel about this topic.

    • Anonymous

      Just how did a secret ballot put any student “in an uncomfortable spot”?  Just how were schools discussing anything inappropriate? 

      • they were required to debate the topic in front of their class based on their votes!

  • Anonymous

    We all know that Maine students would not be “voting” on Question 1 if anti-gays hadn’t cooked up the 2009 anti-gay Hate Vote, so stop whining now, anti-gays, you made your bed, lie in it. 

    • just because I don’t agree with your yes on 1 doesn’t make me anti gay!!!! Thats the difference between us and you carrotcakeman all you do is assume because I don’t agree with marriage for gays and lesbians that I am anti gay and that couldn’t be further from the truth. In reality a lot of gays and lesbians have become so put out with the behavior of the lesbian and gay community they have withdrawn themselves from that catagory out of embarrassment!

  • Anonymous

    you can guarantee the Chicago thugs will not let this get away.They have not quite finished handing the country over to the terrorists.

    • Anonymous

      Yet more filthy hate speech from a right-winger.  Yawn…

    • Anonymous

      just another lying inane comment–perhaps you would feel better if the president lied us into another couple of wars like your buddy

  • Anonymous

    I always knew Maine students were smart event hough LePage doesn’t think so!!

  • Anonymous

    Here it is: mar·riage   /ˈmærɪdʒ/ Show Spelled[mar-ij] Show IPA
    noun 1. Marriage: the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

    • Anonymous

      at one time it also said something about only whites–times change and only the deluded don’t realize it

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