Comments for: DeSmith, UNH shut out Black Bears 4-0 as Maine drops sixth straight

Posted Nov. 04, 2012, at 6:36 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 04, 2012, at 8:52 p.m.

ORONO | The University of Maine’s hockey futility continued Sunday afternoon. The Black Bears were outclassed by the University of New Hampshire Wildcats and absorbed a 4-0 setback at Alfond Arena that means the Black Bears are off to their worst start in Hockey East history. New Hampshire capitalized …

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  • Anonymous

    WOW..that was a good one..FIRE WHITEHEAD IMMEDIATELY!!!

    • Anonymous

      I don’t what Abbott is waiting for.  Already one of the worst 5 teams in college hockey.

      • Anonymous

        It’s unlikely that a College hockey coach will get fired mid-season… unfortunately..

  • JG

    We are rapidly approaching the bottom.  Before this loss, we were 55th out of 59 total D-I teams.  I have been thinking that it would be impossible to believe that UMaine could fire Coach Whitehead mid-season, but now I think it would likely be best. 

    At any rate, he will leave at the end of the season and his legacy will be one of turning a D-I hockey powerhouse into the laughing stock of Hockey East.  He will have to live with that legacy.  It’s shameful that it had to come to this.

    • Anonymous

      What is truly a shame is the complete disgusting way that the University President, AD and all others concerned can continue to give outrageous raises to the Administration when the results from ALL of the Sports teams is abysmal at the very best.  If you do not win, you cannot get athletes to come here taking our state college OFF the radar and OFF the map.  John Winkin, Shawn Walsh, Joanne Palombo all worked tirelessly in getting Maine to be a household name in Baseball, Hockey and Women’s Basketball and we have watched the collapse of ALL three of these programs over the past 10 years…I find it amazing that the tuitions continue to go up, the salaries of administration goes up, yet the quality offered to the students and student athletes continues to fall..That is what truly is SHAMEFUL!!!!

      • Anonymous

        So should they have given Palombo a raise to keep her working tirelessly? Or keep the salaries of administration down? There’s a hole in your logic.

        • Anonymous

          First they should have given Palombo the raise, since it’s athletics that has put Maine on the map, secondly, they should only reward those administrators that truly do a service to the school, not across the board pay increases BECAUSE they are administrators.  Finally, if you want decent teams you have to pay the going rate for decent coaches.  Shawn Walsh could have made a whole lot more anywhere else in the country, but we were truly blesses that he showed Loyalty to Maine….that doesnt come along very often.

  • Anonymous

    That just sewed up Cozzy’s new extension.   Time to take inventory, shall we????

    Blodgett posted the 3 worst W/L records in school history – received extension

    Woodward posted 7 consecutive 1 & done’s in the AE Tourney – received extension

    Trimper posted a sub .500 record last season – received extension

    Cozzy posted best season in program history last season – no extension (contract up in 12 days)

    Whitehead lead team to NCAA Tourney last season – receive extension?????   As long as he doesn’t make the Tourney or go over .500 then yes, that will be the case. :)

    What is going on up at “THE u” anyway?

    This was a tough week.  Soccer, Field Hockey both choked in the AE Tournies, while Men’s and women’s hockey are a combined 2-15.  Football just got spanked at home AGAIN.

    And Mr. March & MBB is just about to carry on the losing ways.  Thank God for WBB is all I can say, as they actually look to be the real deal for once.  Funny how that works when you pinpoint the problem and then make the neccessary changes.

    Go figure.

    • Anonymous

      Have you watched video of MBB this year? It’s gonna take a lot of Woo-Woo magic for that team to go below-.500 this year. Their pressure man defense is much better than crap they’ve called defense the past through years.

  • 2 losses away from ther worst home start and 4 away from the worst start in team history you can do it Timmay!!!

  • Anonymous

    I can’t see this team with Timmay at the helm ever getting out of this funk. Might be the worst season ever

  • Anonymous

    1-8-0 record
    1/44=2.3% on the PP
    Giving up some 40+ shots per game
    Setting new records for futility

    Good grief when will this nightmare end…

    • Anonymous

      When the Freshmen are Seniors.

      • Anonymous

        You think they’ll stick around that long?

        • Anonymous

          Good point..

          I would like to change my previous comment to:”If the Freshmen become Seniors”

  • Anonymous

    Abbott needs to grow a pair and FIRE Whitehead.

  • Anonymous

    Whitehead needs to go!

    • Anonymous

      He’s no Shawn Walsh that’s for sure and it’s past time for him to go. Have gone from Jimmy Howard and Co to this,ugh

      • Anonymous

        You’re right. No one is. But let’s not forget – he was hand-picked by Shawn.

        • Anonymous

          bob you’re correct but would walsh stand for this?  he’d admit it was a mistake and move on.

          • Anonymous

            No argument here. Just paying homage to a man and a beautiful memory.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah,he was a great coach just like Coach York at B.C where my nephew,Joe Pearce,was back up goalie for three years. Watched Jimmy Howard beat him twice.

          • Anonymous

            To quote an old song – “Those were the days, my friend, we thought they’d never end…”

          • Anonymous

            yeah,being a hockey groupie going to all the games was fun while it lasted !

        • Anonymous

           No way!  He was brought in to keep the chair warm while Walsh won his battle with cancer — he had been here as a volunteer assistant and knew Maine’s systems.  No way he was hand-picked to be anything but that.  Shawn was going to WIN — and, unfortunately, he did not.  As a result, this urban “hand-picked” myth started.  Sure has helped the continued storied program, hasn’t it?  Said no one, ever!!

          • Anonymous

            Sorry. You’re wrong.

          • Anonymous

            Prove it…what OtherMainah said is spot on. Walsh was a winner, and winners expect to beat cancer. Walsh picked Whitehead to be the Interim Coach while he got better…he didn’t pick him to lead the team after he died.

            Whitehead was picked because he is bland, uninspiring, and never the type who would upstage Walsh and possibly threaten his coaching position.

          • Anonymous

            I’m afraid I can’t see into someone’s mind, as you and OtherMainah obviously can. All I can tell you is that I was covering Maine hockey at the time (not for BDN) and at no time did Shawn indicate he was naming an interim coach. In fact, he waited until he knew he wasn’t going to beat the disease before he named Whitehead.

          • Anonymous

            Covering for what stellar publication, Woody?  I know, I know — don’t feed the trolls, Bangor and BBear.  But, it’s so easy …!  Exactly when did he know he was going to beat the disease?  The day he died, perhaps? 

          • Anonymous

            bangornative27 –  your best bet is to avoid all responses to woody.  He’s a contrarian, only here to argue counterpoint to any arguement you make.  Not to mention he’s a Timmay lover.

            I too believe that Shawn never intended to have Timmay stay on permanently.  But nobody will ever know his intentions, and really it doesn’t matter.  What matters now is how to move this program forward.  You care about that.  I care about that.  OtherMainer cares about that.  Old woody just likes to argue so don’t waste your time on him is my advice.

  • Anonymous

    The time has come (and gone) for some new leadership behind the Maine hockey bench… They need someone to motivate these kids to play to their full potential.. They also need a new goalie coach. (hint, hint!!)

    • Anonymous

      How do you fire a volunteer?  The current goalie coach David Alexander, is a volunteer according the this week’s program.  

  • Anonymous

    This is not a professional team, so you can forget about Coach Whitehead losing his job now or at anytime during the season – things like that do not happen at the college level.  It is questionable if he will even lose his job after this season.  The losses are one thing, and I understand that there are more Freshmen than Seniors on the squad.  This certainly contributes to the lack of experience we hear about from the apologists.  What really “rips” me is that the team is playing uninspired hockey.  I see a total lack of cohesive flow on the ice, concentration, and worst of all – effort.  To me, this represents a total lack of leadership at the top (Coach Whitehead).  As evidenced with the Cindy Blodgett mess, it is going to take A LOT for Steve Abbott to fire Coach Whitehead – he doesn’t have the “guts” to take such an action.  I’m afraid that even with a poor showing this season, Coach Whitehead will be back next year.  THAT – would be a shame!

    • Anonymous

      This is literally everything I was going to say.

  • Anonymous

    “[Sullivan] is the last guy I would fault. He played a great game,” said Whitehead

    Then who would be the first????

    • Anonymous

       Whitehead!

  • Anonymous

    Will the insane lock out ever end ? Like eating your young !

  • Anonymous

    Academics come first.. the money spent on college sports is stupid….if it helps recruiting to have all these teams, they can go to Penn State instead…

  • Anonymous

    I agree with everyone and what your saying….but we’ve just got a long season to suck it up, because theres NO way they will fire Timmy nor Abbott til at least the end of the year.   I have no doubt theere will be changes after the year, at least there had better be, lol.  

    • Whitehead won’t be fired, I can promise you that. 

  • Anonymous

    As they say, sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you can rise up.  Well, I think Maine Hockey as officially reached rock bottom.  I don’t know how anyone could look at it any other way.   This season isn’t just an off year, or a rebuilding exercise following a great run.   That should have happened 5-6 years ago after Maine failed to make the Hockey East Tournament for the first time since the mid-80s.   After alienating Grant Standbrook and shipping him off, Tim has had complete control of the program now for several years.   He’s got 2 Hockey East Final appearances and 1 NCAA game (loss) to show for it.   The regular season record against conference opponents during that time has been abyssal for a program like Maine.    To me, that doesn’t look like a top tier Div 1 program.  That looks a lot like your early to mid-90s version of Merrimack, Lowell and UMass.   

    If administration wants a program that is fighting to finish in the BOTTOM 8 of Hockey East, that that is looking for an annual upset in the conference tournament, and praying for an NCAA appearance every 4-5 years, then by all means they should keep doing exactly they’ve been doing — renew Whitehead again.   But, stop the speech (and the $50 seats) about honoring the Maine Hockey tradition.   That’s an insult to the coaches and players that built that program. Sadly, those days are gone.   

  • Anonymous

     “Next time I’ll be sure to come out more and take away that angle to discourage him from taking the shot.”

    As a recent graduate of UMaine, and an avid hockey fan – I’ve been watching Sullivan for the past 3 years.  For whatever reason, in the games that I saw (Homecoming weekend) I noticed, for the first time, that Sullivan was so incredibly deep in his net, he wasn’t giving himself a chance at saving anything!  I someone telling him to sit deeper in the net? Because that is NOT the answer for a goalie who has less-than-cat-like reflexes, such as Sullivan.  In fact, we had a nickname for the one save that he could make – The “Sully Shrug”.  If it can’t be saved with a shrug of the shoulders, it’s not going to be saved at all.  He needs to sit at the top of his crease as the puck is brought in; I never saw him even get close to the top of the crease in the games that I saw.  
    And for the love of God, will someone PLEASE teach him how to handle the puck.  On more than one occasion, I’ve seen him go out to play the puck, only to pass it to the other team, who launches it into the empty net.

    He’s gotten, better, for sure.  But he still has a long way to go – as do the other UMaine goaltenders.

  • Anonymous

    What to do about Tim Whitehead?  Many say fire him, and rightfully so.  1-8-0 record. 
    And they’re lucky to have that one win. 
    And folks, it’s only going to get worse as they continue to lose in ways
    associated with other programs, but not Maine.

    For the 1st 5 years Timmay was coaching Shawn’s
    players.  For the next 3-4 years, he was
    recruiting off the Maine legacy.  Now we see
    what Maine has become when Timmay can no longer live off either.

    But I say hold off on the firing of the hapless Timmay
    Whitehead.  Interim coaches complicate
    the hiring process, especially when the team improves under them (how could
    they not?) and even more so when they have been around for a while.  Remember, after Coach Walsh turned the team
    over to Timmay on an INTERIM basis – they went all the way to the NCAA title
    game.  (A game I still believe Walsh
    would have won – Timmay’s passiveness in the waning moments lost them that
    game.)  Upon returning to Orono, then-Maine
    AD Susan Tyler announced that Whitehead was being hired as Head Coach, even
    though UMass-Lowell had declined to renew his contract after five years as
    their head coach just the year before. 
    Tyler made an EMOTIONAL decision – a mistake Maine cannot afford to make
    again.

    The better approach here is to fire Timmay at 9 am the day
    immediately after the season ends.  This
    will send a clear message to coaching candidates that Maine is serious about
    its head coaching position, ready to start looking at candidates, and first in
    line to speak to the top available coaches. 
    Regardless of what has transpired the past 11-12 years, Maine is and
    will be the best available opportunity out there.  The pieces are still here. Great fan base –
    the best. Best home field advantage in the entire NCAA across any sport.  A dominant legacy buried in dust, waiting for
    someone who truly appreciates and lives for that legacy to come home, dust off
    that legacy and raise it to the rafters of The Alfond once again.

  • Why do we spend millions on sports?  As a tax payer and hopefully soon to have a son in college I do not have the money to spend on things that will not help my son or I in any way. Just waste more money . I am not against them playing ball but let them raise there own funds to do it.

    • Anonymous

      Hockey   is  Ball  ?

      • No I bet most Hockey players are smarter than football players . They still get scholarships even the ones who do not need it.

  • Is Semler looking for work for the rest of the year? His teams didn’t have any talent for the most part, but at least they worked hard.

  • Ted

    What a difference 20 years makes. Timmy has destroyed what Walsh built. 

  • I see lots of angry fans and I am in the same boat as anyone that cares about the program. I am guessing though not many of you have come to your senses and stopped going to home games though? It’s kind of like complaining about elected officals if you didn’t vote. Instead of complaining send the loudest message to the AD and school brass STOP PAYING YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO THE SCHOOL!  I watch every game on tv or listen on the radio but have not attended a  Maine home game since Timmy got his last undeserved contract extension. That was this fans breaking point as much as I love hockey at Alfond I said I am done giving money for a school that is rewarding incompetence. If you care about the team stop going to home games that is the only way there will ever be a coaching change. As much as the kids will miss Timmy dressing up and passing out candy to them on Halloween the hockey program will be getting a great treat by getting a new bench boss. For those of you who keep complaining but still go to the games your nothing but sheep and Timmy is Your sheppard!

    MAINE HOCKEY
    SHAWN AND GRANT BUILT IT
    TIM WHITEHEAD RUINED IT!

    HIRE JIMMY FIRE TIMMY!

  • Anonymous

    It is very sad what has happened to a once great hockey program.  I am worried about not being able to get a qualified coach interested in coming to Maine if and when Whitehead is fired, and for any coach coming in, they will be faced with a difficult task of recruiting good players to come to Maine, where the program has hit rock bottom.

  • Whitehead is a disgrace and if he actually cared about the program at all he would step aside because he’s in way over his head at this point. 

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