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  • Anonymous

    Janice,

    So then, what happened to Obama during his first 2 years in office when the House, Senate, and White House had total control?  He could have passed everything he wanted, but came up with little more than Obamacare.  Do you remember a budget?

    • seththayer

      do you remember the Republican fillabusters? Gimme a break!  

      • Anonymous

        Again…the first 2 years of Obama –  2008-2010:

        http://meetthefacts.com/tag/filibuster/

        • maineiac123

           Your point?  All it says there were 65 cloture votes between 2008 and 2010.  That’s cloture votes not necessarily meaning there were sufficient votes to overcome a filibuster.   The fact is that demorats did not have the numbers to overcome a filibuster and the repuglicans used that to their advantage.  In fact, if there had been 60 demorats in the Senate and they stuck together the ACA would be a lot better bill than it is today.

    • Anonymous

      Do you understand how Congress works? In order for the Senate to pass a bill into law it requires 60 votes. At no time in Obama’s term have the democrats had 60 members and therefore they have never “controlled” the Senate, let alone the entire Congress.
      With the stated intent of the republicans to block all of Obama’s policies and their use of the filibuster more than at any time in US history, it is no surprise that Obama failed to get bills passed.
      The republicans are running in this election on 2 principles;
      Give control of government beck to their party and they will return us to the failed neocon policies that got us into this mess to begin with, or
      If Obama is re-elected, which he will be, then the republicans will do everything in their power to bring this country to the brink of collapse.
      The republican party has forsaken their oath to defend the US Constitution in favor of a pledge to Grover Norquist, Carl Rove, and the other neocons from G W Bush’s Presidency.

      • Anonymous

        Maybe you should take Government 101 again. Any bill in the Senate need 51 votes to pass.

        In order to bring cloture and end a filibuster you need 60 votes. Both the Republicans and Democrats have used and continue to use the filibuster in the Senate.

        By the way, even an attempt to change the Senate rules to end the filibuster can be filibustered to prevent the change.

        • Anonymous

           Correct. I oversimplified my explanation. If a filibuster is used to block a bill 60 votes are required to override it, meaning that even if a party has 59 members it does not mean a bill will be passed. Therefore a majority of less than 60 votes does not automatically mean that party controls the Senate.

    • Anonymous

       Do you remember Ted Kennedy’s death and an R filling his seat??

    • Anonymous

      The GOP senators were able to filibuster everything, the Democrats did NOT have genuine control of the Senate, and therefore did not have genuine control of the US Congress.

      But the facts are so very inconvenient to the GOP and their Willard.

  • seththayer

    Dear Ms. Cline:  When you go to weddings, do you ask the guests whether they are on your god’s side?  Because, you know, you should be checking to make sure the bride is a virgin…if she is not, she is not on god’s side and should be stoned to death.  You should check to see if anyone is wearing more than one type of fabric (not allowed according to your god)  Are divorced people on your god’s side (I think not). Do you eat lobster (you are not on god’s side)  

    I mean really….do you live your life absolutely according to your bible?  I don’t believe in your god or your bible, so why should I be forced by you to live according to your interpretation of his words?  You are shoving your beliefs down my throat. But more importantly:  If your god tells you not to get gay married, then don’t.  But this is America, the land of liberty and freedom and you are trying to take my freedom away with your vote.  

    • Anonymous

      Excellent point and question Seth.  Of course Glennice Cline does not live her life following the bible exactly- and let’s be honest no one who claims to be religious does.  Instead what they do is pick and choose the more convenient things they will follow and ignore the other more inconvenient biblical ideals that they don’t follow.  Unfortunately these are the very same people, like Glennice, who always hold up the bible for everyone else to follow and demonize anyone who does not ‘follow’ the bible the way THEY think the bible should be followed.  They are hypocrites and sad, sad little black and white people.  Chin up.  I have high hopes that Maine will be the first state in the country to support SSM by a people’s vote…because Maine can and will do better.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Maine’s Jewish clergy for speaking up. It didn’t pass my notice that the “Old Testament” folks seem more progressive than the “New Testament” folks, who are always quoting the Old Testament to make their case!

  • Anonymous

    Glennice Cline, I think you mean to say, “Are you on the side of homophobia, or not?” 

    • Anonymous

      Thank you Glennice. Hopefully, tomorrow, we will find out that Maine stands up for GOD. 

      • Anonymous

        Don’t blame your homophobia on God, this desire anti-gays exhibit to HURT other people they don’t know and who have never done anti-gays any harm comes from the opposite direction. 

        • Anonymous

          Hey chubby- I have a right to my opinion as well as you do. Are you following me around on these boards???  

  • Anonymous

    Gene Corliss, newspapers have had opinion sections for decades.

    Good riddance.

    • Anonymous

      The BDN doesn’t put their “opinions” in the Opinion Section, and you know it. It’s a rag. Unfortunately, it’s the only game in town..

  • Anonymous

    To all the Clergy- Well done.

    To Glennice Cline- ‘No middle ground’ give me a break- THAT is the entire problem with religious people like you.  I’ve picked a side alright and I’m on the side of equal rights for ALL Americans….once again this ISN’T about freaking religion- now go back to reading your bible (and don’t forget your crayons.)

    Gene Corliss- Spoken like an sad overweight, middle aged, white guy with a sad goatee who has never had to question having any and all civil rights afforded to him. Bah Bye !!  Don’t let the door hit you in the rear end as you leave !!

    • Glennice is a very unhappy person who has a Santa God that she invented and follows the Bible to the letter only when it suits her need to be superior. Please let her live in peace and pray for her. 

  • seththayer

    Mr. Corliss:  Newspapers have been endorsing political candidates and political issues since there were newspapers.  Sorry that you thought the BDN had moved away from what you thought at traditional newspaper should be…one that agrees with your view.  

    Almost every major newspaper in Maine has endorsed marriage equality because editors are usually educated people who have a firm grip on the realities of our 21st century world and the societies that inhabit that world.  

    Too bad that you removed the BDN from your favorites since you won’t be able to read this.

  • Anonymous

    Rabbis, J. Plourde, M. Rains, M. Herrling;  good letters.
    G. Corliss:  Sayonara.  Re SSM reporting, invalid campaigning needs to be exposed.
    G. Cline: note that many heteros are voting Yes on 1.

  • Anonymous

    Couple of cartoons on the Comics page in Monday’s BDN, Non-Sequitur and Dennis the Menace.  For you “frugal”  web-only readers, the former shows a couple of portly men in contrasting clerical garb about to meet at a street corner each bearing a sign,”Mine is truth! Yours is Myth”.  The title:  “The End of the Happy Middle Ground”.  The latter has Mrs. Wilson saying “He [Mr. Wilson] never votes for, he votes against.  Sounds like a certain political Party/Alliance.

  • Gene all newspapers back politics. It is common and done normally. Stop being so angry. 

  • Anonymous

    The Clergy writing this letter disgust me

    • Anonymous

      It’s always sad to see anti-gays attack the Freedom Of Religion of the many major Christian and Jewish denominations that WANT to marry loving, committed same gender American couples.

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