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  • Anonymous

    I’m glad this story was written.  It gives taxpayers another chance to see and hear more lies.
    >”which school officials say restores spending to 2009 levels.”    I would hope so.  She started her career by cutting 22 positions in 2009.  The budget would be waaay below 2009 levels if she hadn’t added a bunch of administrative and secretarial positions.  As a result, we now have 3 failing schools instead of 2.  Those admins have fat wallets though.
    >”The budget, school Superintendent Denise Hamlin said, is very lean and balances well the need for tight spending and fiscal control with the needs of students and staff”     Very lean????  She admitted at a budget meeting (and there is proof on the video of the meeting) that fuel and utilities for Carl Troutt School were included in the budget.  That’s not lean.
    >”Outgoing RSU 67 Board of Directors Chairwoman Jackie Thurlow said she blamed the leadership of a small group of residents for the budget’s rejection three times”   No, Jackie.  You are being dishonest again.  A SMALL GROUP of people cannot reject a budget 3 times.  It takes more than 50% of the people voting.  Stop supporting the person who gave your daughter a high paying administrative position for which she is not qualified.
    >”Several “Vote Yes” signs have been posted around Lincoln this week in response.”   These signs were put up during the night ON school property, which is public property.  Is that legal?  And were those signs created with school materials that taxpayers paid for, taking away from our students???  Why during the middle of the night??
    >”Revitalizing Troutt would carry an initial cost of only $61,000 ”  Okay, no one  believes this.  Hamlin’s own reports don’t even support that number.  Saying it outloud or printing it does not make it true.
    >”It would also allow the school system to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in state aid annually by attracting students from outside the district”   Well, where to begin?  Not a single soul has committed to attend that school.  Not one.  The students you are looking to “attract” are potential drop out students.  None of them are committed to attending.  HOPING does not mean it is going to happen.  We are looking at soaking $800,000 into a building, HOPING that at least 60 dropouts from around the state will attend.  No thanks.  I would have a better chance of doubling my dollars at Hollywood Slots.
    >>>Bottom line>>Hamlin and Thurlow need to stop telling lies.

    • Anonymous

      Can we vote to remove all of the people that got into positions that they were not qualified for and presently have not shown to be doing an adequate job?

      • Anonymous

        No. We can vote out all the incumbent board members and vote down the budget. Then let the new board do there work.

  • Anonymous

    This small group is just the ones standing tall…the WHOLE TOWN has shown their feelings through their votes. There is NO WAY people are going to vote yes as long as this superintendent is here.  She should just take the hint and fly right out of town on the broom she flew in on.

  • Anonymous

    Jackie Thurlow is wrong and I will thank her not to speak for me which is exactly a huge part of this problem.  I have consistently voted no on the budget and will again Tuesday.  With the distinct exception of Debbie Tardy and David Edwards, Thurlow and her band of egomaniacs deemed “The Board” have left me with no recourse.   I am disgusted with Denise Hamlin and the members of the School Board that advocate and recently rewarded her unprofessional unqualified behavior.  They lied to me to get my vote and are abusing their fiduciary duties I mistakenly trusted them with.   Voting no on this budget is the only recourse the School Board has given me as a tax payer and voter to voice my desire to remove Denise Hamlin from her position and put this Community back together.  The Board members refuse to recognize the fact that the tax payers and voters are intelligent enough to make their own decisions and don’t have to be “led” by any group.  Yes I intend to vote “no” on the budget and  will continue to do so until Denise Hamlin is gone along with  the School Board Members  that insist on advocating her deplorable behavior.

  • Anonymous

    ROMNEY / RYAN   2012  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    During the 8/30 budget meeting, Superintendent Denise Hamlin stated that the start up for Carl Troutt School was “fully funded in this budget”.  Later she recants and says  “IF I said that I misspoke”, (directed at Dorance Clay as he asked questions about CTS expenses AND read what she had said during that meeting in Aug).  Now, in this article, she states that “will allow the school system to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars.”  This is PURE supposition on her part.  Granted we would receive $8,800 per student (per Denise’s information supplied during the meeting regarding CTS), we currently have 17 students.  SO should this number swell to the 60-80 students they keep telling us are “interested” in attending our Carleton Project, then it’s possible to make as much as $704K.  The problem is, we can’t seem to FIND the 60 kids that she says are out there waiting.  WE can’t even take care of the 20 we have in our OWN district right now.  This is a very delicate program.  Chris Betts (the CP teacher) stated in a recent board meeting that he is currently holding at 17 as he needs to get them “settled into the program” and “it would be difficult to add 3 more right now”.  If we can’t even handle our OWN kids, how do we think we can swell the program to 60 or 80 and keep it healthy.  Well there goes the hundreds of thousands of dollars!  AND we will have invested HOW MUCH in expenses?  Oh yes $1!  No wait…plus the $61,000 “intial cost.”  Did she also mention in this article that the YEARLY ESTIMATED BUILDING costs are $135,000? (this would bring our costs to $196K just for the building, we were told that last year the program brought in $178K so in the first year alone we are going to pay MORE than projected Income)   I missed that fact being presented anywhere in this article, this information was stated at the CTS meeting!  OR that it’s going to cost considerably MORE to get the rest of the building ready for any other programs they might want to RENT the facilities out to!  NOW let’s see if I can accurately mention a few of these programs and you put together how well you think they might mesh:  child care, mental health clinic, elderly care.  I would be remiss in sharing FACTS without reminding you of WHERE the money is coming from “undesignated funds balance and other leftovers” according to the superintendent (see the article for references).  WHERE did that money come from in the first place?  OUR TAXES!!!!  How about we get the programs that are being withheld (afterschool club with late busses) back up and running with those funds.  OH YES!  Mrs. Hamlin has stated publicly (want to see the DVD to prove this is true) that those programs are “FULLY FUNDED” in this budget and she will “REINSTATE THEM AS SOON AS THE BUDGET IS PASSED.”  WELL if they are fully funded, and YOU are paying your taxes, and the town is submitting what is being raised for the schools…I wonder how much money she is sitting on?   Ok…OR let’s just go ahead and use some of those “undesignated funds and leftovers” to get our schools better programs to raise our scores and help our struggling kids!  Let’s put that money BACK into our CURRENT system for upgrades!  We need to fix what’s “broken” right now and not take on more unverified projects that have GREAT potential for failure! 

    I will end with the thought, we aren’t being given all the facts.  I’ve stated here quite a few things that I didn’t see in the article.  I WANT to be an informed voter.  Had I not been attending meetings (every meeting I can possibly go to over the past year missing one budget and one school board meeting), many of these little “facts” would have been missed out by me.  And I certainly haven’t heard them discussed in the paper.  So WHERE would I go to find this information?  I have “DONE MY HOMEWORK” and discovered much of what is presented here, just from listening and making a few phone calls (like to Howland to find that they currently have ZERO students to send to our CP).  IN a meeting I had with Jackie Thurlow, Reggie Adams, Denise Hamlin and My Mom, back in April, Jackie made the following statement “If you would just throw your substantial influence behind what the board is trying to do.”  I guess she still believes I have “substantial influence” as myself and three others, Mary, Phyllis and Tonya, are being credited with “leading” this group of voters to rejecting the budget three times previously.  I had never even had a conversation with Mary until Monday when we did a prior interview with the BDN.  I think the voters are figuring out for themselves exactly what they want to happen are saying it pretty clearly with their vote!  Please continue to express your opinion and if you so deem, I would appreciate the vote for school board.  I AM DOLORES KING PHILLIPS  AND I approve (and fully wrote) this message!   

  • Anonymous

    The only people I’ve ever heard support this superintendent and this budget are school board members, relatives of school board members, or people who are afraid of what will happen if the budget doesn’t pass. Anyone who has a mind of their own knows that this school board has allowed Denise Hamlin to ruin this district.  She did this very same thing in Greenbush and in Milo.  The reason we need to vote no is because the entire budget is a lie developed by a liar.  Sometimes the budget has enough money for kids to have things like after school club.  Sometimes the same budget doesn’t have enough money.  Sometimes the budget is so “lean” that there is not any extra money for things like teacher workshops.  Sometimes the budget has so much extra in it that we can give the superintendent a $3,000 raise and prorate it back to June for the amazing job she’s doing making sure every school does not meet AYP.  She makes sure if her best friend, Rachel Bosquet’s (who worked closely with Mr. Hamlin in Milo before coming to Lincoln) school is failing, the others better be failing too so it doesn’t only reflect back on said friend.  And if the schools won’t fail on their own, she’ll come up with some other reason that they “aren’t really effective or efficient”.  This town needs to stand up for it’s teachers and it’s students.  Voting no tells the NEW SCHOOL BOARD we do not support Superintendent Hamlin and many of the (8 out of 10) administrators she has hired to do her dirty work.  She needs to be gone soon before the entire district has crumbled, and believe me it’s close.  Talk to people who know what they’re talking about.  You will get the real story there.  You have not gotten the real story above.  

  • Anonymous

    As an alumni of MSAD#67 I am deeply saddened and disappointed in the way the district has changed.  I was proud to be part of MSAD #67 and what it stood for.  Now the way this superintendent has acted causes disgust and embarrassment.   I am  perhaps more disappointed that members of the school board  have not only allowed it to happen, but continue to defend her position. Schoolboards  hire and can fire superintendents; it is perhaps one of the board’s largest responsibilities, one this board has taken too lightly.   The Superintendents acts of both hiring the daughter of the school board’s chairperson who does not hold the necessary credentials for a position and  bringing in former colleagues from her former district  is nepotism and counts as only one of the red flags that have been raised.  A recent court case against the superintendent was won and the board continues to support her. If I lived in the area I would vote no… not because of the financial reasons, but because this superintendent has already COST the district too much.  

  • Anonymous

    Riddle me this, Batman.  Some “Vote Yes on School Budget” signs magically appeared during the night, on public (school) property.  Now, I don’t have a problem at all with people expressing their opinions, however, it shouldn’t cost me money.  The “Vote No” folks paid for their signs and placed them legally.  And, many of those signs were destroyed during the night.  I’m guessing it wasn’t the “Vote No” people.  Illegal.  I believe the “Vote Yes” signs were made from school materials, unless someone has a laminator in their home.  I also noticed that the posts for the “Vote Yes” signs  had BHE on them.  As Sheldon Cooper would say, “Wait a minute.  I can use my powers of deduction to figure this out.”  Here goes.  John Trask is a school board member who supports Hamlin unconditionally.  His sister-in-law, Dawn Trask, works at Ella P. Burr, and wrote a letter to the editor last week in the Lincoln News that is nothing short of libel against 2 people, but that shows unconditional support for Hamlin.  Her husband, Jim Trask, who just happens to be a brother to John Trask, works for Bangor Hydro Electric.  Get it???  BHE???  So, I am wondering if taxpayer dollars paid for the production of those signs by using school materials and machines during the “frozen budget” time when students are not getting things they need.  And, I am wondering if my electric bill will go up next month, or if Bangor Hydro is aware that their materials were used.  Where the materials paid for, or stolen?  And to Mrs. Trask, most people in this town take what you have to say with a grain of salt.  And you know why, but I will be kind enough to not go into details here.

    • asportsfan

      On that same line- Dawn Trask wrote a letter to the Lincoln News.  Other teachers who have dared to speak up have gotten in trouble for writing a letter to the LN.  Is Dawn Trask going to get in trouble for doing so?  She should.  If one teacher gets punished for speaking his/her mind, then all should.
       

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