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  • Anonymous

    The legacy of the leaving city council is the Bill. The large property tax hikes for this/trash pickup and driveway tax.. The ones who created this debt are leaving town. so they won’t be effected..
    There are some who will try to convince the people that the casino will pay for the Arena, they will be lying to you.

    • Anonymous

      So your figures come from where?

      • Anonymous

        from the BDN, they have shown the numbers and the math didn’t  add up.. Plus the cost of running the place.. If my numbers are correct the city will be short at least 2 millon a year. unless of course we can get the State to give up 3 more points to the host communities, which it should be anyway.

        • Anonymous

          The figures I have seen from the BDN clearly show that between Hollywood Casino and the downtown TIF the revenue stream is sufficient to pay the bonds issued over time. In fact, the project was scaled back to fit the revenue stream projected. Maybe you forgot that little fact. I have seen no projections that show a shortfall of $2,000,000 per year.

          • Anonymous

            It will expose it’s self soon enough. but it is to late and nothing can be done about it.

          • Anonymous

            OK so what you are saying is that you have no proof to back up your earlier statement.

          • Anonymous

            I think it would be a good Idea to double the TIF tax. maybe triple it seeing they are the one who pushed it forward.. yes I know the people voted on it and were lead astray to believe it was a freebee.. the slot revenue stream belonged to the people not the chamber. We should cut the school budget 5 millon a year to do the cities downtown projects for the chamber

          • Anonymous

            Push Hollywood Casino is a private for profit corporation and is not owned by the people of Maine or Bangor anymore than Lowe’s or WalMart is.

            That revenue stream is not the property of the people OR the chamber. That revenue stream belongs to Penn National and their investors. They pay a TAX to the state of Maine and the City of Bangor OVER AND ABOVE property, sales, food, lodging, etc…and the Downtown TIF.

            You really need to educate yourself on private enterprise and the taxes associated with owning and operating a business in Maine. The amount of regulation and level of taxation would curl your toes and make your hair go white.

    • Anonymous

      Just remember don’t feed the troll folks!

    • Anonymous

      The casino will be paying for some of it but there are certainly no guarantees and you are 100% correct, the city is going to have to kick in about 2m per year. The irony is that the biggest bet laid in Bangor today is the one on Hollywood Slots being around for 20 years to pay the note. That’s a lot of pennies into the slot machines.

      • Anonymous

        Remember, it’s now Hollywood Casino with table games which I understand has done quite nicely.

        • Anonymous

          Your understanding is wrong. Hollywood Slots revenue has consistently been down by 5% to 10% the past year. That was not part of their forecasting model. They actually expected the table games to increase revenue by as much as 10% not a reduction. Want the link?

  • To bad they didn’t go with the ice rink option. Could have brought even more money in.

    Edit: My post is about how us locals would have benefited from having another ice rink. We could have held more high school games, more league games and maybe even some pick up hockey games.

    We also could have had another rink instead of Sawyer that offered public ice sessions, maybe even a place that rented skates to draw in more people but that is not going to happen.

    I find it very sad that a lot of folks in Maine love ice hockey and ice skating but we have a serious lack of ice rinks. Albuquerque, New Mexico has better local rinks than Bangor, Maine.

    • Anonymous

       Totally agree.  This was brought up many times to prep the building for ice but the councilors were in such a rush to get their names on it that it didn’t matter.  Would have been a great facility to host weekend long youth tournaments and talk about an income opportunity.  I know we traveled all the time with our youth teams and when you support a 50 team roster for a weekend that’s a lot of people coming to our community.  Guess MA. and Canada will continue to get that support.     

    • Anonymous

       There’s plenty of ice in Bangor.  And there are plenty of ponds and lakes in the area that could be shoveled off so that former high school stars can hit a puck around.  We don’t need an $80M arena for that.

      • Anonymous

        Plenty of ice, like last year? :-)

      • If i want to skate on pond or lake ice I’ll go skate in Brewer. Their ice is horrible.

    • Anonymous

      Ice will be brought in when it is appropriate. Permanent ice is costly and hurts versatility.

      While your sentiments are nice they aren’t grounded in a practical understanding of the facility.

      The local rinks are going out of business dude…where are the people going to free skate, stick and puck, adult leagues, etc?

      No one is gonna add several million in construction costs and millions more in continued maintenance to keep permanent ice so you can go take your granddaughter skating once a year and you’ll expect to pay 5-10 buck.

    • Anonymous

      Alfond.

  • Anonymous

    All ice shows which is the only thing that pays bring their own ice so it wasn’t needed Kevin

    • The only ice show I want to see is hockey and that isn’t happening there.

      • Anonymous

        The Bangor area already has a premium, televised hockey arena. If you are thinking more as Bangor getting a pro hockey team? As long as the market is there, the arena was built with the future considered and remains a future option. As far as ice tours, all ice shows travel with thier own ice.  The strangest thing is the arena can be expanded (if needed) in 25 years to double its size as it is one half of a large bowl size arena. Of course, that would mean the end of the current BDN offices and probably my home. he he he. Havin’ fun!

    • Because nobody would want to use such an awesome new place for local hockey games or have a place for locals to ice skate. Bangor has so many indoor ice rinks it is bursting at the seams and ice time is so easy to come across.

  • Anonymous

    I like the new building but it seems to crowd main st Shoulda flattened the dump behind it first

    • Anonymous

      They still wanted to continue using the Auditorium for shows, basketball, etc. while the new arena is being built. Almost like living in the trailer while your home is being built. Not to compare the Auditorium to a trailer- although they both leak, they both sit on a lot in a park (Bass), and they both lack enough windows. (* see below)

      (* see above)

  • Anonymous

    Key to continued success: Never slow down, Bangor.

  • trisailer

    What I get from this article is pride and affirmation that Cianbro, a Maine, employee owned company is on track to give us another example of excellence.

    It’s amazing what a company can do when it’s focus is on producing excellence and is not encumbered by the need to be fighting off hostile takeovers and all the other nonproductive nonsense that goes on with public companies.

    Imagine if every US company had the same focus on excellence instead of only a quick buck. 

  • Anonymous

    Too bad that they decided to build the thing in the middle of the road, instead of setting it back a bit.

    • Anonymous

      When everything is complete and equipment is cleared out, it shouldn’t be a problem.

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