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  • Anonymous

    Suggesting that listing gay rights as “civil rights” does a disservice to Martin Luther King Jr., LaBarbera predicted that if Question 1 passes, “Christians and people who have moral opposition to homosexuality will lose their rights.”
    That has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I’ve heard from the opponents so far! Can’t help but laugh because it’s just so pathetic!

    • Don’t forget they will be forced to get a divorce and marry someone of the same sex.

      • Anonymous

        That is the reason I’m voting no. Thanks for the heads up.

        • What is sad is that you and others truly think it will happen.

        • Alec Cunningham

          Fortunately, the true gays won’t be forced to gay-marry the newly divorced!  Ack!

          • Anonymous

            Please can we stop referring to them as ‘the gays’?  It’s sounds so foolish, like oh, he caught ‘the gay’.

          • Alec Cunningham

            It IS foolish.  That’s why I say it.  I am mocking those who think gays are this icky set of sinful subhumans.

        • Anonymous

          Good Gawd, man, can you not think?  If you believe lies perpetuated on more lies, I can see why this state is spiralling downward.  Think, man, think!
          Oh-and NEWSFLASH-the wheel’s been invented and the earth is round.

        • Anonymous

          No, you’re voting no because you think treating gays and lesbians as second-class citizens is a good thing.

          No one’s behavior on these forums has influenced your vote, you have been pretty consistent in your rhetoric here.

        • Anonymous

          You’d better not move to New Hampshire then, they force people to watch gays marry:
          http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-hampshire-passes-law-forcing-old-people-to-wat,6770/

      • Anonymous

        Wow.  Candidate for whooper of the year.  The decade.  The century…

    • Anonymous

      That’s not what his wife believed. 

       “I still hear people say that I should not be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people. … But I hasten to remind them that Martin Luther King Jr. said, ‘Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.’ I appeal to everyone who believes in Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream, to make room at the table of brotherhood and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people.”

  • Anonymous

    Here we go!!!! Let the games begin,lets get ready to rumble pick your own cliche either way it
    ‘s about to get ugly up in here.

  • Anonymous

    I never got the no special rights PAC. What they are arguing for is the right to make “marriage” theirs and only theirs. Seems like a special right to me. 

    • Anonymous

      Christian Civic League: intrinsically harmful and evil.

      • Anonymous

        I wish I could “like” this more than once!

  • Anonymous

    unreal

  • Anonymous

    He should have gone to The Henry Rollins show at Cony last night.That would have set him straight..

  • Anonymous

    These people just don’t get it.  Who someone chooses to love is none of their gosh darn business.  Period!  Furthermore it is long past due that everyone in this country has the legal right, the civil right that was promised in the Constitution, to the pursuit of happiness as THEY wish their happiness to be.  It is the promise of American citizenship that all citizens are created equal.  It is time that America delivered on that promise.

    • Anonymous

       Hey in America you are free to be happy.  Providing of course that your definition of “happy” matches mine, and we look the same.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, neither “happy” or “happiness” appears in the U.S. constitution. The pursuit of happiness is in the Declaration of Independence.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, good point.  I got so angry with the hoodlums who would deny full American citizenship to people that I lost my accuracy on this one.  Regardless of whether you want to look at this issue from a Constitutional point of view or from the Declaration of Independence it is offensive to me that some Americans are denied full rights as citizens because they choose to love someone of the same sex.  Who my neighbor loves is none of my business, nor yours either.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, they can love whomever they want but marriage is a rite between man and woman and should not be perversed by this special interest group in the name of freedom or civil rights.  The freedom they experience is that they can love whomever they want, walk hand in down down the street with this person and not be arrested or stoned to death for it.  That should be where it ends.  Forcing those of us who have enjoyed the rite of marriage between a man and a woman for centuries to accept something which goes against everything we believe in infringes on our rights.  No one cares about that though.  Now it’s time for you to hide behind your favorite shields and scream discrimination or homophobe.  Do you know what the definition of a racist is?  Anyone winning an argument with a liberal.  

      • Anonymous

        ” Forcing those of us who have enjoyed the rite of marriage between a man and a woman for centuries to accept something which goes against everything we believe in infringes on our rights.”

        How so? Your rights would remain the same.

      • They aren’t arrested or stoned for being gay – isn’t that enough? Those, those ingrates!

        You’ve enjoyed the rite of marriage for centuries? How’d you manage that? :D

      • Anonymous

        I’d be willing to bet that if it was you being denied rights you wouldn’t be too darn happy about it either. Please enlighten me as to how allowing SSM would infringe upon your rights whatsoever?

      • Anonymous

        It’s about being treated equally under our laws as taxpaying Mainers.

        Civil marriage is what we are asking for— we already can have religious marriage in churches who will wed us, the First Amendment guarantees that. It’s just a religious ceremony with no real rights attached to it without the civil marriage license, though.

        No one is forcing you to accept anything. I don’t care what you think of me or my family.

        I DO care that my government is discriminating against us though, and I DO care that I am being excluded from the very real and tangible benefits of civil marriage.

        I hope most Mainers will join me in voting YES on question 1 in November, because ALL Maine families deserve the opportunity to protect the lives they build together with civil marriage.

      • Guest

        You don’t have to accept it. Just stop fighting against something that won’t affect you in reality.

      • Anonymous

        I have been happily married and widowed. I have children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. I also have many gay and lesbian friends. Maybe I have so many because I do not discriminate. 

        There are gay people I don’t like, but it has nothing to do with their sexual preference. There are straight people I don’t like either for the same reasons, none having to do with who anyone has sex with. That is just none of my business. It was none of theirs who I had sex with either.

        People need to understand that Question 1, really has nothing to do with homosexuality. No one wants or needs your approval. Gay sex has been around as long as mankind has been around and it will continue to be around as long as mankind continues to exist. What Question 1 is really about is allowing those in a same sex relationship to be married (not to just have a wedding), and have that marriage recognized by the government of this country and all that that entails, Married Filing Jointly, other tax and retirement shelters etc. That is what Question 1 is about. 

        Those who oppose homosexuality need to ask themselves if they are just seeking to punish those who live differently than they do. Because a No vote on Question 1 is just that. There is NO logical reason to deny another citizen of this country any benefit the government allows because you dislike their sexual practices. To me, this just makes no sense.

        • Alec Cunningham

          This is great!

  • Anonymous

    So disgusting and hateful. They talk about limited government and the sanctity of life, but they’re massive hypocrites. They only care about themselves and somehow, they’re devastated if someone else is different than them. So what? What’s right for you isn’t right for somebody else, but that’s what makes life in America so great. I don’t throw a hissy fit because my neighbor is a different religion than me. I don’t throw a hissy fit if they drive a different car or paint their house a different color. I don’t cry myself to sleep at night if my child’s teacher grew up speaking a different language or if my brother is going to vote for someone other than who I’ve vote for.

    There is no other word for it but hateful. Why would you use the law to hinder someone simply because you disagree with them? That’s hate. Period. 

    • jdtex

      Hissy fit?  Still laughing here!

    • Anonymous

      The more these so-called “christian” mean-spirited people talk, the more they reveal how very, very far removed they are from the God they claim to speak for.
      I can only hope when they die off and leave, they’ll discover that God, himself, is gay.  As Ricky Ricardo used to say, “They’ll have some ‘splaining to do.”

      • Washington County

        If the Christians are right they won’t explain anything. If your wrong you will be crying. Christ is either God or he’s a liar, he can’t be a good person with the claims he made!!

        • I can’t believe people still use or believe in Pascals Wager. It is so easily debunked it is amusing.

        • Anonymous

          No problem w/Christ, Washington. None at all. It’s his so-called “representatives” here on earth who disgust me.

      • First of all to say that God is gay is blasphemous. Secondly God Himself says in 1 Corinthians 6:9 talks about not just homosexuality being a sin but list’s all the others that also separate you from Him. God is not a man pleaser and show’s no partiality to sin, nor is a respecter of persons.

        We who are Christian are not so very, very far from God at all. We know what the Bible say’s. We know that we are sinners and that we need forgiveness for our transgression. It is the rest of the world who does not acknowledge Jesus as the savior of mankind, and the propitiation of our sin’s who are far away of God.

        • Anonymous

          Waaa

        • Anonymous

           ‘God’ also tells us not to eat shellfish and to beat our wives when they don’t listen to us.  If that’s the kind of advice God is handing out, I think I’ll pass. 

          • Anonymous

            God also forbids clothing made of more than one material. I’ve yet to see a Christian getting overly upset about Polyester. 

          • Anonymous

            “Conservative Christians” think that the ban on homosexuality in Leviticus is the only part of Leviticus that still applies.

            Meanwhile they ignore the Commandment to honor the Sabbath and keep it holy because they’d rather spend that day shopping and watching secular TV shows and movies and making gluttons of themselves with rich Sunday dinners.  They think hating homosexuals will give them brownie points from God to break the Ten Commandments with impunity.    

        • Anonymous

          You do not need to put apostrophes after: list, show, say, sin…or any other word that you are making plural by adding the letter s. It should read lists, shows, says, and sins. This is a pet peeve of mine that it seems many “educated” people fail to understand. The apostrophe is used when you are making a word possessive, such as Gail’s house, God’s love, Grandma’s pumpkin pie, and a homosexual’s right to equality under the law. (There are some exceptions to this rule of thumb, look in a style/grammar book for further explanation.) I hope this helps you to better express yourself without having errors in punctuation detract from your message–however much I disagree with your beliefs.

          • notateapartier

            Punctuation saves lives.
            “Let’s eat, Grandma!”  or  “Let’s eat Grandma.”

            It’s also the difference between 
            “Feeling you’re nuts.”  and “Feeling your nuts.”

          • Anonymous

             THANK YOU, BBDNFAN! The improper use of apostrophes drives me bananas! It does detract from a writer’s message and make them sound ignorant, much like adam jewell’s post!

        • Anonymous

          God condemns rape and victimization, not love.

          There is nothing sinful or immoral about two people blessed to find in one another a supportive, lifelong commitment. We should absolutely allow these couples access to civil marriage for the same reasons we encourage all families to wed.

        • Anonymous

           God made animals an they are gay so god made gay people .  gays have been married  for over 4,000  years . No the religious did not come into play till about 200 to 225 years a go when THE CHURCH said it should be a  religious ceramomy

          • Anonymous

             Are you drunk?

          • Anonymous

            Do a search an you will find it an yes i did a search so im not drunk

        • Anonymous

          But its such a big world and your fable might not be someone else’s fable. So stuffing this down the throats of everyone might not be the path that you want to take. Free society the USA is and not everyone will follow your beliefs. I except how you feel, you have every right to do so. In turn you need to except how I feel about what I believe in. You have no choice in the matter. Because you are talking on deaf ears when someone does not follow your path. All this does is make fodder for the blogging world, which in its self is kind of fun. 

        • Jim

          Excuse me, but 1 Corinthians allegedly was written by Paul, not God.  

          • Anonymous

             It is God’s Word!
            Galatians 1:11,12 Paul the human instrument used by God wrote:
            “But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
            Paul’s word’s in the bible were under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God so that they stand as the Authoritative Word of God. God is not going to leave us to man’s opinion to know what is truth. That would be confusing. He gave it through man. That is what the bible is.
            It is the same Authoritative Word that says homosexuality is a vile, unnatural lifestyle.
            “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
            (Rom 1:26-27)

          • Anonymous

            This quote could be interpreted a number of ways, but mostly it reads like gobble-d-gook! It makes absolutely no sense and if that is what you are using to support your belief that homosexuality is evil, you’re a long way from convincing me! And I am straight, for the record. I just do not believe it is for me, or for you or anyone else, to dictate to other consenting adults who they should fall in love with. You certainly are entitled to say that a same sex union or relationship is wrong for you, morally and/or physically, but the Creator did not charge you with the responsibility of trying to dictate to others whom they should love. Live and let live, love and let love! Why should you care at all if that love involves two adults of the same gender?!

          • Anonymous

            I am not dictating anything. God has entrusted us with His Word and He wants us to proclaim it. He didn’t give it to us to sit in a bookcase and never be read or talked about.
            Take it or leave it I am telling you what it says. Don’t let yourself be swallowed up with the ‘live and let live’ mentality on an important issue like gay marriage. If this is passed it will be the law. There is no discriminating against the law. People need to wake up and realize that there are serious consequences to such a law. One will be reverse discrimination against those who oppose it. A society that accepts such a thing will inherit a lot of problems especially since it is something that is against God’s moral laws. I am not the judge but He is. Homosexuality will be judged by His standards not yours or mine. Gay marriage is not a good thing for anyone.

          • Anonymous

            What consequence is there? Stop being a hate monger and hiding behind a 2000 year old piece of fiction. You need a book to give you moral guidance? 2 people getting married, regardless of sex, has no adverse effect on anyone. So what’s the big deal? 

            The sad part is that there are so many great lessons that can be taught via religion. But it seems people only use it to judge others who aren’t doing anything that harms anyone. 

          • Anonymous

             So sayeth GIT!

          • Anonymous

            A little nuts, eh?

          • Anonymous

            Just look at their screen name.

        • Anonymous

          I was NOT born with intrinsic sin due to some ancient man’s actions.  Just as Bill robbing a bank doesn’t make Paul, who has a clean record, a thief until he proves otherwise.  Go ahead Christians, and keep telling yourself how sinful and awful you are-which must do a number on one’s self-esteem-and spend the rest of your life trying to prove how much of a sinner you AREN’T.  I, on the other hand, was born an innocent baby with basic human needs who was raised and has evolved into a good, caring, honest person.  I have chosen a noble profession that helps others.  I have been raised children who are growing to be very respectful, honest, good people themselves.  I don’t smoke and rarely drink.  I don’t practice infidelity and I honor my marriage and my husband.  I don’t steal, I respect my parents, etc.  I could go on and on.  You know what?  I’m not perfect, but I am not a sinner, despite what you want to call me.  And I sure do not want to be a part of any religion where I have to believe I am.

        • Anonymous

           What the heck are you talking about?

      • Anonymous

        If being Christian means you promote hate and bulling of others to live a life that meets your own beliefs and not theirs, I want NO PART of the Christian lifestyle!

    • Anonymous

       Honestly I wish people would spend more time fixing their own life instead of trying to fix mine (and others).

      • There’s nothing wrong with me or my life, other than the fact that I can’t get married.

    • Anonymous

      Who is doing the name calling?

      • Millicent

        as far as name calling – I think the anti-civil rights crowd wins that game. In fact, they’ve taken it quite a bit too far over the years. From straight out bullying, to beatings, and murder. 

        This is the United States of America, where all are created equal, with the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – Black, yellow, white, purple, green, straight or gay. It’s not your life. It’s their’s and they have the right to live it as they see fit – not how you think they should. 

        • Anonymous

          I don’t think any group has the winning game on that. Seems you are using the same argument on your last line.

        • Anonymous

          And lately, these rants especially, are getting downright crude and profane.

        • Anonymous

          Anti-civil rights? You’ve got to be joking.

      • Anonymous

        It’s not name calling if you’re convinced you’re a victim.

        • Anonymous

          maybe not, then maybe it is being called hateful.

    • StillRelaxin

      Vote accordingly on November 6th.  It’s time for those with closed minds to be shut down starting with the Maine House and Senate.  Hand em back to Democrats and many of these folks like Heath will simply melt back into obscurity where they belong.

      • Gary Libby

         Nah.  They like to hear themselves talk too much for them to ever shut up.

    • Anonymous

      LOL…people use the law to hinder people they disagree with all the time, including the homosexual community

    • Anonymous

      See you at the polls next week. Lots of luck!

    • Anonymous

      Sir, with total respect to your point of view, you have written a double standard. You are quite apparently upset over this issue, but you have said that you don’t cry yourself to sleep if someone like your brother, votes for someone else than you. So, why do you show so much resentment if someone else has a different opinion on an issue than you? Isn’t that what you were speaking against? I don’t agree with the KKK but they have the right in this nation to speak their piece just like everybody else. This group may be way off base too, but the true conerstone of American democracy is that everybody gets their chance to speak. What this issue boils down to is a law that has been put into place. And so, registered voters both for and against have the right to vote on it. The outcome, no matter what side you are on, will be decided at the ballot box. There are many laws that are not fair to many groups in this country. But, we have come a long way in a short time compared to other countries that are thousands of years older that we are. I have served in countries were the mention of the word homosexual or Christian could mean death. We are a fortunate people here.

      • Anonymous

        KKK…..here we go….

    • Anonymous

      Same sex attraction marriage is insanity.  We need to stop this insanity. We need to stop pandering to every aberrant behaviour out there and pretend it’s ok when it is not.  

      • So are you going to lead the charge to get rid of all these species?

        Homosexual behavior in animals refers to the documented evidence of homosexual and bisexual behavior in various (non-human) species. Such behaviors include sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting among same-sex animal pairings. A 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.

        http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

        Lions are also homosexual. Male lions often band together with their brothers to lead the pride. To ensure loyalty, they strengthen the bonds by often having sex with each other.

        • Getting rid of the species, as you call them, is not what this is all about.

        • Anonymous

           “Ensure loyalty”….  ROFLMAO

          It is establishing dominance.  It is an act of aggression.

          • Anonymous

             Establishing dominance:  its what religion is all about.

          • I’m pretty sure the person who wrote the article didn’t stop and ask the lions which one it was.

      • Anonymous

         One could argue religion is insanity, and it needs to be stopped, but we’d see a whole steaming heap of trouble if we ever tried to legislate it. This is because of separation of church and state.

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
        prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
        speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
        assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

        Marriage, in the legal sense, is a contract. No one is requiring you to marry them in your church as a religious ceremony.

        How this is even an issue, given the separation of church and state guaranteed to you and me by the constitution, is beyond me. It is time we stop pandering to the church, and their petty, childish hate speech. 

        • Marriage was always a religious ceremony, I think that’s what the argument is about.  The separation of church and State is being violated, at least on the “no” side.  It’s not as simple as you calling it childish hate speech.  I see more hate coming from the “yes” side than I do from the “no” side.

          • Anonymous

            It’s always a religious ceremony? Then why do people bother getting a marriage license? You’re not being honest and you know it.

          • Anonymous

             A christian that isn’t honest?  Now there’s a shocker…

          • Anonymous

            Historically, it was only a religious ceremony. It was later in more modern history that marriage licences have been required, and that the state has stepped into what used to be solely a religious function. Why is that?

          • Anonymous

            Historically in this country it has been a legal contract — always. So to suddenly act like it’s only a religious ceremony and that only the religious aspect matters is dishonest. If it’s only a religious ceremony, then why do people bother with the legal aspect at all? Why do gays want the legal rights and protections if this is only about religion? There are plenty of religious denominations that preside over their religious marriage ceremonies already, so why would they be fighting for this if it was only about religious? Like I said to you and others, you’re not being honest here. 

          •  Show us where it has “always” been a legal contract in this country.  You are not being honest, and you know it!

          • Anonymous

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_civil_marriage_in_the_United_States
            Don’t call me a liar when you don’t have the facts to back it up. We brought over canon laws of Europe with us. 

          • Anonymous

            I was referring to something a little more historical, like back to biblical times. In modern times, the marriage license has been required probably for census and tax purposes. Although in prior centuries, a wife was property, not a partner and that may have some impact on the evolution of licenses and civil ceremonies. Those religious denominations that do preside and have for some time presided over gay marriages cannot afford the same tax and civil benefits to such couples. It has been more difficult for gay partners to get insurance benefits etc for their significant others. They just want the same civil opportunities the rest of us have. Let’s face it gay people and gay sex has been around as long as mankind, it’s not gonna go away no matter how we vote on Qestion 1. Let’s let these couples be families if that is what they want.

          • Anonymous

            We live in the United States, bound by our Constitution, and in our nation civil marriage has always been a secular, legal matter.

            And as such, we must abide by the promise of our Constitution and extend civil marriage equally to same-sex couples— for there is no justifiable reason to discriminate against them in regards to the 1,100+ benefits and privileges our government extends for civil marriage.

          • Anonymous

            I am actually in agreement with you. Except this country existed for almost a hundred years prior to the ratification of the Constitution. We came to this country to have  religious freedom from the oppressive Church of England, which was a break away from some of the oppression of the Catholic Church.

            Religion is more opposed to gay marriage than civil standards. However, our elected officials are usually a part of those religious institutions that oppose gay marriage. I agree all the civil benefits should allowed. Canon Law like civil law was written by man and can and ought to be changed to include all loving couples.

          • Anonymous

            I realize we both agree on civil marriage equality— I was clarifying your point on comparing modern constructs of marriage with centuries-old ones.

            Thank you for your support! Please go and vote early if you can :)

          •  Did you see “was” or did you just choose to ignore it?  Thought so, just more garbage to avoid the debate.  You’re not honest and you know it.

          • Anonymous

             then you ought to walk in my shoes for a bit….

          • Alec Cunningham

            Did you see that packing comment?  Do you ever call out the true haters on your side, or just condemn us?

            And how can you say the separation of church and state is being violated when we talk of marriage being a civil contract?  This sounds suspiciously like doublespeak.  “War is peace.”

        • Anonymous

          Actually, ask the photographer business who was accused to discrimination and risked civil/criminal action for refusing to photograph a gay marriage.  We are already on the doorstep of being required to marry them and do business with them.  

          • Anonymous

            Are you referring to the Elane Photography case in New Mexico? That was based on anti-discrimination laws that were already in effect. A public accommodation cannot discriminate against customers based on sexual oriention. This would be the same as a store owner telling someone they could not shop in their store because they are gay.

          • Anonymous

            The very same laws are ALREADY on the books here in Maine, as of 2005. It is already illegal to turn someone away from your business because they are gay. The question on the ballot does nothing to change that law.

          • aww, you’re going to be forced to marry a gay person — my heart bleeds for you.

          • Alec Cunningham

            Religious freedom doesn’t mean freedom to discriminate, does it? 

            There are laws right now that prevent discrimination against gays and people of faith.  It’s not legal right now to say no to a couple who is gay just as it’s not legal right now to say no to a couple who is Fundamentalist.  

            Lastly, there are always people who want to sue.  Just because someone wants to sue doesn’t mean that we all agree with it or that it’s even a valid case.

          • Anonymous

            This vote does not affect that in any way. 

            Maine passed anti-discrimination laws in 2005 that protect sexual orientation.

            Those same laws also protect you from being discriminated against by businesses for your religious views.

            This vote, by contrast, is entirely about how our government treats us under its laws. There are over 1,100+ benefits and privileges extended by our government, contingent on marital status. That means that without civil marriage, gay and lesbian couples are denied basic rights under our laws. That’s un-American, and unconstitutional.

            I voted YES on question 1, and I hope most Mainers join me so we can afford ALL Maine families the opportunity to protect their lives with civil marriage!

        • Anonymous

          “establishment of religion” is  there to protect people from a state run religion.  Its not there to make us leave God out of everything. God is the author of government and our nation should have great respect to the Word of God and the laws we pass should be ones that do not violate the moral principals taught in His Word the  bible.
          Our country has held to the definition of marriage as one man one woman for over 200 years and we don’t need to change that. The definition is based on God’s laws. He made the woman for the man. It is a spiritual union before it is a ‘legal contract’ but we do need the legal contract in society to protect from such perversion as gay marriage.
          Matthew 19:4-6
          “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. ”
          This is the natural, God given right to marriage. Everything else is perversion and error.
          Romans 1:26-27
          “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. ”

          Note the words use by God Himself to describe the gay lifestyle: “vile”, “lust” (not love), “error”, “against nature”. There is nothing right about it and we don’t need 2 to 3 percent of Maine’s population redefining the definition of marriage for their own ungodly, perverse personal choice.

          • Anonymous

             “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”

            The establishment clause has generally been interpreted to prohibit 1)
            the establishment of a national religion by Congress, or 2) the
            preference by the U.S. government of one religion over another.

            So, what happens when my religion, or lack thereof, has no issues with homosexuality and gay marriage? Do you believe, despite this clause in the constitution, your religion should receive preferential treatment?

            In a legal sense, gay marriage wouldn’t hurt you. “God”, or rather the PEOPLE who wrote the bible, may well have thought that homosexuality was “vile” or whatever, but the simple fact of the matter is, this isn’t hurting you any. This isn’t exactly legalizing murder. You’re just too blinded by religion to see this simple truth.

        • Anonymous
          • Anonymous

            This video makes the assumption that homosexuality is a behavior caused by a choice. It also makes the assumption that heterosexuality is the only way things work in nature. Neither of these things can be shown to be true. Homosexuality has been observed as a fairly common thing within many species of animals.

            Also, this video puts up many “headlines” with no citation of source. This video strikes me as propaganda, in the guise of an educational film. I’m not really 100% convinced that any of these things actually happened.  Lets suppose they did, however. I would agree with you that at least some of these things shouldn’t be happening. Your religious rights, traditions, and beliefs should be protected (within reason). I don’t, however, believe this means we should continue to ban gay marriage. I find this comparable to making all women wear Muslim hijab because some Muslim men might be forced to do adopt out children to women who aren’t covering their shame.

            I’m done now. You’re already set in your beliefs, and I understand changing your viewpoint isn’t something you’re going to be convinced to do easily. I haven’t the time, or patience.

      • Anonymous

        Your spelling of “behaviour” makes me wonder if you are Canadian or British.  If either is true, how ironic that neither of those countries have problems accepting SSM.  

        • Anonymous
          • Anonymous

            First, even if my computer’s sound card were working, I can assure you that youtube would be the last place I would go in order to educate myself. Grab a clue, lets. They’re free today.

      • Anonymous

        You should get to know some gays and lesbians, you would find the ones that wish to wed are settled down, normal folks like yourself.

      • Anonymous

        How do you know that your heterosexual neighbor is not engaging in “aberrant” behavior. There are many forms of aberrant sexual behavior among heterosexuals but you don’t go around wringing your hand worrying that folks might be engaging in those? We don’t put those to a ballot. It is generally presumed allowable among consenting adults. Why?

        Let’s let each man and woman, gay or straight, live his and her life. Let God judge them at the end. In the book, the Shack, God asks the narrator to pick one of his children to be forever damned. The man can’t do it because he loves all of his children even though they have transgressed.  God made each one of us in His likeness and He has told us He will forgive us if we ask it. He has advised us not to judge others, because we are imperfect ourselves. Let’s let gays be families if they want to be. As Christians, let’s allow God to make the final judgement. It is none of our business.

        • Anonymous
          • Anonymous

            I can see that you are trying to promote a video. But you fail to make your point. First, in my humble opinion, the premise of this video is so far off, it is ludicrous. It is not getting successfully from point A to point B, if that is in fact what it is trying to do.

            The job of government is to serve the people that elect it. Not to decide by virtue of ones sexual orientation who would make the better parents. Many stable and successful people have been raised in same sex households. Same sex couples may not reproduce in the ways we are used to, but do adopt, do have children via artificial insemination and they don’t have kids that are an accident or unwanted. They welcome children into their homes, usually after a significant wait, and they care well for them. You rarely read of child abuse in same sex households. 

            Voting yes on Question 1 will not invalidate traditional marriage but expand it to include other loving couples who only want the same civil and tax benefits that every couple should be allowed to have. This is not about the church and a wedding, these people want a relationship that can validated  and recognized by the government and the citizens it is supposed to serve.

      • Anonymous

        Is this Susan Powter?

    • Anonymous

      Reports at a national conference about sexually transmitted diseases indicate that gay men are in the highest risk group for several of the most serious diseases. . . . Scientists believe that the increased number of sexually transmitted diseases (STD) cases is the result of an increase in  risky sexual practices by a growing number of gay men who believe HIV is no longer a life-threatening illness.Risky Sexual Behavior on the Rise Among Homosexuals. Despite two decades of intensive efforts to educate homosexuals against the dangers of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) and other stds, the incidence of unsafe sexual practices that often result in various diseases is on the rise. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), from 1994 to 1997 the proportion of homosexuals reporting having had anal sex increased from 57.6 percent to 61.2 percent, while the percentage of those reporting “always” using condoms declined from 69.6 percent to 60 percent.A CDC report revealed that, in 1997, 45 percent of homosexuals reporting having had unprotected anal intercourse during the previous six months did not know the HIV serostatus of all their sex partners. Even more alarming, among those who reported having had unprotected anal intercourse and multiple partners, 68 percent did not know the HIV serostatus of their partners. A five-year CDC study of 3,492 homosexual males aged fifteen to twenty-two found that one-quarter had unprotected sex with both men and women. Another cdc study of 1,942 homosexual and bisexual men with HIV found that 19 percent had at least one episode of unprotected anal sex–the riskiest sexual behavior–in 1998 and 1997, a 50 percent increase from the previous two years.
      No worries, leave them alone and the problem will take care of itself.

      • Anonymous

        This is a health crisis within the homosexual community that they need to ignore in order to advance this movement….

      • Anonymous

        There’s many more issues to consider than Grampy wanting his grandson to be able to marry a homosexual.
        Then again…what does the CDC know?

      • Anonymous

        And this is the basis for marriage?!

      • Anonymous

        Oh my goodness, reports from the 90’s…run for cover!!

      • Anonymous

        Gay marriage is about gay men (and women) wanting to settle down with ONE partner. That has the potential to cut down on the number of risky encounters. 

        Do you have more modern statistics or did you quote 14-18 year old statistics to suit your side of the discussion. Yeah, I could go look them up, but really, I don’t care that much.

        • Anonymous

          Of course you don’t.
          The CDC mentioned that too.

          • Alec Cunningham

            It mentioned raysgirl?!?!?  Creepy!!!

          • Anonymous

            Hey, I get around. LOL.

          • Anonymous

            Oh..a homosexual who thinks they’re a comedian.
            You may not think you’re so funny when you get (if you don’t already have) HIV, HPV, HAV, HBV, HCV, or don’t forget GBS. Then I bet you’ll have some real funny jokes.

          • Anonymous

            Do all your statistics tell us what the impact would be of allowing two men or two women to commit to only each other would be? We are not trying to legal gay sex orgies just allowing gay families the same civil benefits that families with the “traditional” couple have. What are the HIV/STD numbers among heterosexual persons with multiple partners?

          • Anonymous

            Nobody mentioned orgies, it’s just disease ridden behavior, period. 

          • Anonymous

            Of all the gay men I know, and I know many, I don’t know of one who is HIV+, even the guy whose partner died of AIDS.  As far as I know, none has even had an STD.

            It is no more a disease ridden behavior then some of the practices by heterosexuals. Those that take their health seriously are no more likely to engage in promiscuous behavior than any heterosexual person who is responsible about their behavior. 

            Both heterosexuals and homosexuals who are promiscuous and do not practice safe sex run a risk of contracting an STD including HIV. Remember that many heterosexual, IV drug users, who engage in unsafe sex, may be passing on the HIV virus, but no one has mentioned disallowing them certain tax status or other civil benefits.

        • Anonymous

          Unhealthy Aspects of “Monogamous” Homosexual Relationships.The journal AIDS reported that men involved in relationships engaged in anal intercourse and oral-anal intercourse with greater frequency than those without a steady partner. Anal intercourse has been linked to a host of bacterial and parasitical sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS. The exclusivity of the relationship did not diminish the incidence of unhealthy sexual acts, which are commonplace among homosexuals. An English study published in the same issue of the journal AIDS concurred, finding that most “unsafe” sex acts among homosexuals occur in steady relationships. HPV is “almost universal” among homosexuals. A San Francisco study of Gay and bisexual men revealed that HPV infection was almost universal among HIV-positive men, and that 60 percent of HIV-negative men carried HPV.

          Sounds like nice healthy relationships. Certainly not spreading disease right?

          • Anonymous

            It’s still stupidity from you. You’re lamenting sexually transmitted diseases (which we’re all at risk for) and yet discouraging monogamy. That’s nonsense and you know it.

          • Anonymous

            “The journal AIDS reported that men involved in relationships engaged in anal intercourse and oral-anal intercourse with greater frequency than those without a steady partner.”
            Yes, because like their heterosexual counterparts, they have sex more frequently. Heterosexual men in a relationship are likely having sex more frequently than their single counterparts who cruise the bar scene or internet dating sites for some action. (Now there are a couple of ways to pick up something besides a night out. . . .) 

            All of us are subject to the maxim “You are sleeping with everyone your partner has ever slept with.” I don’t care what a person’s preference is, if you don’t practice safe sex, every time, you are leaving yourself wide open for a variety of STDs, herpes, genital warts, HPV, as well as a host of things that need antibiotics, and HIV/AIDS. Monogamous partners should be checked for STDs before embarking on a sexual relationship and then remain in that one relationship. If everyone, gay or straight, did that, it would not matter what kind of sex one practices. There is more than enough information out there on how to protect oneself from any and all STDs. 

            I am sure that there are segments within the gay community that ignore the precautions, but there are segments within the heterosexual communities that do the same. 

            We should focus our energy on STDs in general to eradicate them, not blame one segment of society for their being.

    • Anonymous

      So well said.  I’ve never heard such rediculous comments.   ‘Gay marriage…is a way to use the legal system to indoctrinate young people’ and ‘if there was a fair media, 75 percent to 80 percent of American society would be opposed to the gay agenda’.  What scared, biggoted individuals they are.  Yes, let’s cotinue to follow the patriarchial Christian ways and promote marriage between men and women only (with it’s 50% divorce rate), using no birth control (thus leaving 50% of the children products of broken homes), and continue to overpopulate our world, draining it of our already diminished resources.  What a plan!

      • Alec Cunningham

        “The USA-the same way since 1953!!!!”

    • Anonymous

       You throw hissy fits on here every day!   LMAO

    • Anonymous

      What is particularly disturbing about these people is that they do not practice “live and let live”, but instead go around lobbying for their religious views to be made law. Even if those views are based on bigotry and hate. These are the SAME kinds of people who stood in the path of the Civil Rights Movement and tried to stop the equitable treatment of women and minorities, who believed millions should die to protect the awful institution of slavery, who said women are too dumb to vote, who believed Native Americans were not quite human and therefore should not enjoy the rights of the citizenry of this great land…and on and on and on. Each new generation generates more of these bigots and they hide behind their bibles and their Christian faith even in the face of the reality that Jesus preached a gospel of LOVE!

      Why not take this money and energy and put it to use serving the poor, protecting children born to situations you would not want a dog to endure? Why not take these energies and stop making a mockery of God’s love? Why not do SOMETHING that will be looked upon as an example of true Christian actions for the Savior? I believe EGO is involved here as well as ignorance and hate. The media seldom give attention to those who quietly serve humanity in the name of God. The attention, the news splash, comes from notoriety, and there are some who will always seek the limelight even if it is a negative fame. They exploit the ignorant, generate huge sums of cash and get their 10 minutes of fame…or infamy. Whatever a person believes about homosexuality, can we not acknowledge that all people should be able to enjoy the same protections afforded everyone else in America?!

    • Anonymous

      Incidentally, since you mentioned “sanctity of life”, you have certainly demonstrated in your past posts an attitude against the right to life for everyone including the unborn. Ironically you accused those supporting the right to life FOR EVERYONE of selfishness while pursuing gay marriage for yourself as something noble. Wow, this talk of yours sounds like hypocrisy.

      • Anonymous

        I’ve talked about the constitutional rights in regards to women’s choice, I’ve never spoke about my own personal views. Nice try though. 

        Don’t you dare call anyone selfish either in their quest for equality, especially when you’re trying to shove your own religion and lies down their throats.

        • Anonymous

           You’re equivocating. Either you are for the protection of the unborn or not. There is no moral in-between. You can’t be personally opposed and against protecting them. Suppose  the Supreme Court decided it was up to , say churchman, to decided if gays should live or die. Would it make sense for one to be personally opposed to gay murder while not wanting to protect them from being murdered? Of course not!  Likewise it is wrong for one to be opposed to the murder of the unborn while supporting an unjust law or court decision permitting it. 

          • Anonymous

            I’m not equivocating. I’m correcting you when you’re being dishonest. You said I’ve made my views clear — that’s a lie. I corrected you when you were wrong/misinformed or lying about the SJC and their decision on the constitutionality of a woman’s right to choose. 

    • Anonymous

       “hate” . It is more loving to God to stand against and hate the things He hates than to please man and pass a law that is totally against everything His Word teaches for some pseudo ‘equality’ law for a very, very small percentage of the population.
      It is more loving to your neighbor to warn and admonish him of the dangers of homosexuality to a society than to remain silent to those dangers.
      Call us haters all you want but your the haters. You hate God and His Word and you love yourself more than others by pushing such an immoral, destructive lifestyle on our society.
      God does hate you know. He is love but there are things He hates.
      Proverbs 6:16-10
      “These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that devises wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaks lies, and he that sows discord among brethren. ”
      (Pro 6:16-19)
      And he HATES homosexuality. He did not create it, it is unnatural and set against His moral laws and the laws of nature He put in place.
      Romans 1:26-27
      “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. ”

      • Anonymous

        You are so, so wrong, twisting the wonderful message of the Gospel to support your judgmental distain for people you close your heart from.

        None of the passages above are set against the committed, supportive, lifelong relationship two can share, gay or straight.

        God condemns rape and victimization, not love and companionship.

      • Anonymous

        The Bible’s a good book and all, but I prefer Harry Potter. I feel the lessons are more applicable to present day life, and the characters are more interesting. 

    • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    As usual they are blaming God for their hate instead of owning it!

    • Anonymous

      Poor God, the original GLBT! The zealots put him/her through a lot don’t they?

    • Anonymous

      But God *wants* me to hate my neighbor.  Oh wait…is that what He said?

  • Guest

    Christianity …..intrinsically harmful and evil for many living creatures big and small.

    • Jake_OO7

      Try the Mormon religion if you want government controlled by religious nuts.  

      • Guest

        I’m familiar with the mormon ‘faith’. Went to their church with a friend when I was young and adventurous.
        No thanks. 

        • Anonymous

           why do you say that? I know very little about Mormonism. Please share. Thank you

          • Anonymous

             If you want to know more about Mormonism you should read this book:

            Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith by Jon Krakauer–absolutely fascinating!!

          • Anonymous

            Well, that’s like saying, “If you want to learn more about the Catholic Church, read ‘The Name of the Rose’.”

          • Guest

            It’s cultish. Like many religions and borders on the unusual. There are many history books and such about Mormons. I dabbled and ran.

      • Anonymous

        They’re shaping up to some extent (after all, they banned polygamy for political reasons; statehood) but still have a lot of stuff to try to forget (their theories of origins of blacks and American Indians for example).

      • Anonymous

        Live in Utah…it’s about as close to a theocracy as you will see here.

    • Anonymous

      Only conservative/ultraconservative Christianity.  These misguided zealots do not speak for the majority of Christians.  Please don’t tar us with the same brush.

      • Guest

        I do apologize. You are correct.

        • Anonymous

          Thanks.  We appreciate it.

    • Anonymous

      34 likes!

      Wake up, people!

      This is an anti-Christian movement. 

  • Anonymous

    Actually, the Christian Civic League is “Harmful and Evil”.

    • StillRelaxin

      Well on the plus side they did have the good sense to rid themselves of Michael Heath. So as bad as they may be they pale in comparison to Mr. Heath. For those who may have forgotten why the CCL canned his butt, here’s the skinny on that situation. In his battle to rid the planet of homosexuality Heath began seeking out information via e-mail on Maine’s gay lawmakers. The CCL placed him on leave for one month, describing his behavior as having “crossed a line of ethical behavior into a realm of sinful gossip.” Having sinned enough Mr. Heath decided to pack up his bag of hate to seek out greener pastures elsewhere, of late working for Ron Paul and the Tea Party. Yikes! Isn’t that who put Tea Party Paul LePage in power? Vote accordingly folks. You won’t get another chance until 2014.

      • Anonymous

        Didn’t he spend some time in exile in Africa trying to “cleanse” that too?

        • StillRelaxin

          Yes, but his “clensing” skills don’t pay the bills anywhere near as well as the Tea Party.  Every hate group needs a good organizer.  The smart one’s stay behind the scenes.  Clearly Health is about a bright as he is appealing to the public.

        • Anonymous

          His “mission” was to go to ground zero to find the virus that causes AIDS.  No doubt his quest resulted in the discovery that the only toxins affecting the LGBT community are within himself.  Imagine that.

          • Anonymous

            That’s ol’ Mikey Heath’s missionary position. Same old, same old.

  • Jonathan Albrecht

    AMHI is still necessary.

  • Anonymous

    “Intrinsically harmful and evil”?   What a coincidence…that’s just how I feel about religious zealots!

    And BTW, what “special” rights are we seeking? By that, I mean rights that aren’t applied to everyone else? We would like inclusion. Heath and his ilk want to maintain exclusion.

    • maineiac123

       The LGBT community isn’t seeking special rights.  People like Heath are trying to maintain the special rights we straights have.  Really hypocritical isn’t it to say they’re opposed to special rights while wanting to maintain their own.  But what can one expect from people who think there is ‘legitimate rape” and iillegitmate rape, and that a child conceived by rape is a blessing from god. 

  • Anonymous

    Michael Heath is intrinsically harmful and evil….

  • Anonymous

    Michael Heath is ‘intrinsically harmful and evil’

    • Alec Cunningham

      Remember the term he uses for ssm.  That’s a clue right there about what kind of man he really is.

  • Anonymous

    omg, who cares,, so sick of hearing about this lame topic. just go vote, lets get it over with..

    • Anonymous

      Don’t worry it’s almost over, at least for a year.

      • Anonymous

        Hopefully, it will pass and then it will be over forever.

    • Anonymous

      Vote yes on 1, of course.

    • Anonymous

       It’s a hugh issue for some people. I know a female couple who will be married ASAP once this passes. so happy for them

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure the gay agenda caused this Hurricane.

    • Anonymous

      LOL
      I’ve been waiting to hear that fire-and-brimstone line from that crowd.

    • Anonymous

      Absolutely. The clue was they named it Sandy. I thought for sure they’d have called it Pat though.

      By the way thank you for reminding me to wind my cuckoo clock.

  • Anonymous

    This guy is the one who has got it backwards. It is they who are intrinsically harmful and evil’

    “My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.” Frank Zappa

    • Anonymous

      At least conservative churches …

      • Anonymous

        yes, only in the context of the “conservative  extreme” which is an oxymoronic mouth full.

    • Anonymous

       AMEN to that!!!!!! :-)

  • Guest

    In your eyes but not in everyone’s. No one is harming you.

  • Tyke

    The ballot question is about allowing a civil marriage contract between consenting adults.

    Why are you obsessing about gay sex?

    • Alec Cunningham

      How many marriages actually include sex anyway???

      • Anonymous

         Mine, but thats still funny as he-l. Nice one :)

        • Alec Cunningham

          Thanks!

          I keep remembering that straight marriage on “Married With Children” and how Peggy always wanted it but Al never did (with her, anyway).  Come to think of it, Mr. Roper never wanted to with Mrs. Roper, either…..

      • Tyke

        Hmmmm
        .

        My condolences on your marriage I guess.

        • Alec Cunningham

          I’m not married.  I can’t marry the person I love.  And this comment wasn’t about me.

      • Most do, though it’s usually of the same sex variety. *rimshot*

  • Anonymous

    “[A] national assault on the rights of people who oppose a “gay agenda”?

    Yes, these people have a right to their opinions, but they should also understand that the media has no obligation to broadcast their views.  There are fringe groups out there with all kinds of beliefs — some of them involving hatred of others and a sense of superiority — that don’t get much media attention — for good reason.

    If you travel around talking about others as “intrinsically harmful and evil, you should probably expect there will be some backlash. 

    If Mr. Heath and his cohorts would consider being a  bit more civil and a bit more Christian, that might go a long way toward solving the problem. Can anyone really picture Jesus traveling around the country spouting the “gospel” these people are promoting?

  • Anonymous

    Once again,  falsely confusing and equating homosexuality with pedophilia.

    • Anonymous

      They are both perversions and deviant activity. Still voting no on 1. 

      • Anonymous

        being perverse is worrying about someone else’s marriage rather than worrying about your own

      • Millicent

        so don’t do it! Good lord, it’s none of your business what two consenting adults do anyway. 

        • Anonymous

          Sorry, but you are wrong. It has become my business now, thanks to the media blitz by the LGBT community I’ve had to explain what is happening to my kids, and now my grand kids. By demanding that we legitimize their deviant life style choice, they have dragged us all into their little corner of hell. 

          • Anonymous

            better than explaining an episode of Married with Children, or The Bachelor, or virtually anything else that is on TV

          • Anonymous

            You can tell the children that people do different things, or don’t.  Let them learn your hate and see how their lives go from there.  Perhaps they will grow up to be JUST like you, and then you can be happy.  They are going to still see gay people no matter what.  The context you teach them when they see a couple together is either going to be ‘they are evil’ or ‘those two love each other, but I don’t want to vote for them to be married because *I* know better.’  Have fun with your holier than thou attitude.  History will judge, and at least you can tell everyone that YOU were one of the people that didn’t want to see gay people married.  Start telling them now, btw, so they can be sure to know where you stood.  I wonder how the people who argued against black and whites marrying feel now?

          • Anonymous

            Legitimizing a loving marriage should be condoned, and legalized.  As for going to Hell, you can get there quite well on your own.  Nobody (except your distorted faith) is dragging you there.  Sorry, that’s a little harsh.  You do know that grace is a gift extended to all, don’t you?  Act in appreciation please.

          • Anonymous

            AVOICEINTHECROWD perhaps doesn,t realize that one his/her children/grandchildren are gay..   hmmm is it still deviant behavior.   Oh …and you have dragged yourself into a corner of hell.

          • Anonymous

             I think Avoiceinthecrowd may not be fully comfortable with the fact that they are most likely gay.  It is always the staunchest gay rights critics who seem to be the deepest in the closet.  Some day, when we pass this law, maybe avoiceinthecrowd will finally admit to his wife who he truly is.

          • Anonymous

            Oh please. It sounds as though you are ill-prepared to discuss these matters with your children. Guess what? That’s part of being a parent. My 7-year-old nephew asks me all kinds of questions about politics (but he’s never said a peep about same-sex marriage). I am more than happy to answer them, even when I know he is being influenced by his mother and I disagree with her.

          • Anonymous

            Everyone is entitled to get married in this country. Looking at marriage from a churches point of view, it was to give children their fathers name and he be responsible for their care. In the governments eyes it’s keeping an eye on taxable income so they can borrow ahead against the children born to a man and a woman.
             I keep seeing statements about animals being gay, I always thought when a dog grabbed someone by the leg or a same sex dog they were saying #&% you in sign language and not at all about sex.

          • Anonymous

            I can hear it now: I ask you, children.  Do *you* think black kids should sit in class with you?  Of course not.

          • Anonymous

            You do know that most blacks resent the LGBT community trying to equate racism with their “struggle”. I was in the first class at Cape Canaveral Elementary School that integrated back in the 60’s. I had a front row seat for racism and never cared for it. You are born black, you are not born gay. Big difference.

          • Anonymous

            I do know that, and I think it is pretty crappy how the Black Community, so-called, struggles against discrimination…but only certain kinds.  Others they have less trouble with.

            I think the jury is out as to whether people somehow “choose” to be gay.  I doubt they do…given how they are treated, why would they?

          • Anonymous

            Why would they? Easy. They are selfish little drama queens that like all the attention focused on them. They thrive on shocking people with their gayness. They could not possibly care less how their “coming out” casts a stigma on the rest of their family. It is all about them. I have volunteered for years with many different organizations and have never seen a gay man or a lesbian show up to help. Never. Oh, I know, they are all gay or lesbian and they all have a “cover” wife or husband, so I wouldn’t realize they were gay.

          • Alec Cunningham

            YOU need a hug, too!!!  It must be tough work judging people so harshly all the time!

          • Anonymous

            I am sure that there are gays who give to organizations other than LGBT sponsored ones. I have just never met one in 30 years of volunteering. I suspect they spend most of their time thinking about themselves and how to normalize their lifestyle choice and not much time thinking about others, unless, of course, they are gay too.  

          • Alec Cunningham

            Well, you are a sad panda.  Maybe the gays and lesbians knew better than to parade their homosexuality in front of you, he who judges harshly.

          • Alec Cunningham

            You do know that the NAACP has endorsed same-sex marriage.

          • Anonymous

            And so you’d rather ban something that alters none of your rights instead of having a mature discussion with your snotty kids for 5 minutes? Seems legit.

          • Anonymous

            My kids are adults now. They are married, have kids, and attend church. I guess you are referring to my “snotty” grand kids. 

          • Alec Cunningham

            Adults can be snotty.   But that’s not the point, is it?  You’d rather not have to deal with something so you want to prevent some of your fellow Americans from having the same right to happiness with the one they love that you have.

      • Anonymous

        What about 2 women? They are homosexuals too. Oh wait, that wouldn’t be such a “perversion” for you, would it? 

        • Can I watch?

          • Anonymous

            Evidently, the antis might like to.

      • Anonymous

        Pedophilia is deviant, homosexuality isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    really, force women to have a baby after she was raped. lets let the poor starve, let us tax them more because only 47% of Americans pay taxes. Lets not provide healthcare for all humans. There are many things that the Christian right support that are a lot more immoral then letting a couple of gay people get married. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, but I bet you are going to fight as hard as you can against universal health care right? Maybe make the women have a baby after she was raped? Yes sooo moral of you. 

  • Anonymous

    What a load of balderdash (and I’m being Christian and polite).  Talk about “agendas”.  Guess we know what theirs is.

    Note that even Emrich is trying to distance himself from LaBarbera and Madore (and probably Heath too).

    • maineiac123

      He may be trying but he’s of the same ilk.  He was one of the evangelists that went to Africa to preach against homosexuality.  When they left Africa a couple of the countries voted to make homosexuality a capital offense.  Coincidence?  I doubt it very much. 

      Ooops..didn’t see the post above.

      • Anonymous

        Forgot that he was included in that foul crusade.  Looks like he was waffling to some extent in the article, at least he said that defeat of SSM was their only mission.  One wonders …

  • Tyke

    Didn’t Michael back folks involved with the Uganda movement to make homosexuality punishable by death?

    How incredibly unchristian of him.

    • Anonymous

      Yup he did. And those thoughts of murder are a sin.

    • maineiac123

       I think Emrich was involved in that too.

    • Anonymous

      There is what is harmful and evil right there.

  • Alec Cunningham

    Yay!  He’s back!  More nonsense from this guy can only help us.  

    Peter LaBarbera, Paul Madore, and Michael Heath regularly engage in hate speech against gays.  Some of the things they say are truly awful and no rational Mainer should believe them.

    • Anonymous

      I wonder what Peter, Paul, and Michael do to warm-up for these enlightening presentations…

      “How do gays do it again?”
      “Here let me show you…”
      “Ah okay..its all coming back to me now!”

      • Anonymous

        lol

  • Anonymous

    I do appreciate that 90% of the No on 1 money has come from out of state while the Yes on 1 money is split 50/50 instate vs. out of state.

    So who really is the No on 1 campaign, a group from out of state! 

  • Anonymous

    ya know if your marriage is so pathetic that someone else getting married will impact on it so much,perhaps you better work on saving your marriage rather than listening to these 3 bigoted idiots..BTW I’m a happily married 60 year old hetero grandfather and SSM will not bother my marriage at all

  • Anonymous

    I could say the same about Christianity…

    • Anonymous

      Make that conservative Christianity …

  • The cunning gay folks are working towards the sinister idea of, wait for it…being treated like everyone else! The horror! :D

    Commies and muslims and gays, oh my!

    • Anonymous

      LOL

  • Anonymous

    What Heath and Co. seem to forget is that none of us had a choice in where or to whom we were  born, the color of our skin, our genes, health or sex. To sit in judgment of people who are asking for nothing more than to be respected for who they are and to be provided equal civil rights of marriage would seem to be as uncharitable and inhumane an action as can be undertaken by anyone claiming to represent the views of any God, Christian or otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    Next thing you know they’ll want to vote like Negroes and women.

  • Wow, how powerful to be able to label other people, “intrinsically harmful and evil.”, or how arrogant. When someone starts hate speech against other people, they lose any respect  I might have for their opinion. How can you claim to be Christian when judge and call people you do not know evil?  

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s fairly clear just who are the  ‘intrinsically harmful and evil’ people ….it’s the ‘christian’ civic league.   They are about the least bunch of  ‘christian’  people in this state….maybe they can team up with the Westboro Baptist Church crazies who also profess to being good ‘christians.’  What a bunch of cr@p and hooey they shovel all under the guise of being ‘good christians.’  Give me a break.

    • Anonymous

      I believe that Jesus Christ is sickened by these kinds of ignorant and mean-spirited individuals, especially because they use His name in vain in support of their vile agenda.

      • Anonymous

        “Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination.”

        • Mr. Incredible, in Jesus’ Name

          Then lay down with the woman, doggie style with the man.

          See… they’re not the same. NO problem.

        • Anonymous

          Jesus Christ never said that. What he did say was “Judge not, lest ye be judged.”

        • Anonymous

          A sure sign of a hypocrite: stand so strongly against a sin you have no problem avoiding, while conveniently ignoring all of the other teachings of the Bible.

        • Anonymous

          You are so Old Testament dude.

        • Anonymous

          Leviticus again?  Really?

        • Anonymous

          Do you believe that gay and lesbian Mainers should be put to death?

        • Anonymous

          So is shaving your beard, eating shellfish, and sitting where a menstruating women has sat.

  • Anonymous

    “SAINT PAUL’S JOKE” (2012) in action.  It would appear that the former Christian Civic League leader never read the New Testament, or maybe just never understood what it said.
    Consider this  under the heading of “Homosexuality ‘intrinsically harmful and evil’”:
    Is there LOVE in Heaven — did Jesus teach LOVE?
    If there is Love, is it directed only at the Father? 
    Or, can it be between any two heavenly entities?
     “they shall neither marry nor be married, but shall be as the angels of God in heaven.”{Matthew 22:30}  Does this mean there are no males or females?  Do angles have Gender — or do we play the quote game further?  That there is neither male nor female in heaven… but there is LOVE!  So all love not directed at the Father MUST BE HOMOSEXUAL LOVE!
    This “leader” like his “League” is anti-Christ.  He is disputing the teachings upon which Christianity is based.  so, is the the Homosexual, or  The Christian Civic League, which represents that which is ‘intrinsically harmful and evil’”?
    “SAINT PAUL’S JOKE” (2012) … the Vatican took two months to review two copies of the manuscript, and reported no problems… and this is one of the issues discussed.

  • Anonymous

    I just can’t believe these people are Christian.  What do Christians believe?  I as a Christian believe that Christ died for all of us so that our sins might be forgiven.  I also believe that people have the right to the fredom to live there lives in a way that brings them happyness.  I believe that merriage is for everyone and for families of all kinds.  If a family happens to be two people of the same sex what of it.  I have not the right to judge!  I want merriage to be for everyone.  There is a big difference between merriage, and a church.  Were do church leaders get on telling people that they hold the keys to merriage.  There are all kinds of merriages not ordained by any church and for a merriage to be leagel you only need the licence.  The licence does not come form any church or church organization, it dosen’t even come from God.  The licence comes form the City of Town in which you live.  So you bigots can just get a life!  I’m goning to VOTE YES ON QUESTION 1 

    • Anonymous

      They’re something but they are not Christians. They’re severely disturbed cultists.

  • Anonymous

    Just a thought , wondering how many  skeletons this guy has in his closet. 

    • Tyke

       Hard to tell because he’s still in that closet.

  • Anonymous

    He is way too obssesed with hegin with homosexuals to begin with.

    • Anonymous

      We have suffered YEARS of this crap……….  It could be worse though…  I haven’t read about Mike Hein in a while…

  • Anonymous

    Pedophiles are child molesters os either sex.  They are NOLT gay.  They have fetishes for children

    • Anonymous

      The over whelming majority of child molesters are males. Ones with a chemical imbalance in their brains. Still voting no on 1. 

      • Anonymous

         Reiterating that you are “still voting no on 1” doesn’t make you look any less gay, no matter how many times you say it.

      • maineiac123

         Yes the overwhelming majoriy of child molesters are male. The overwhelming majority of rapists are male but none of this has anything to do with being gay.  Pedophiles will take advantage of children period, male or female doesn’t matter. What does matter is their vulnerability.  Why so many boys and not girls abused in the catholic church?  Simple.  They have altar boys, not altar girls. I suspect if there were as many altar girls you’d find the abuse against them too. 

      • Anonymous

        You forgot the other fact….STRAIGHT MALES.  Still canceling you out.

      • Anonymous

        PROVE IT.

        • Anonymous

          Prove that the over whelming majority of child molesters are male?lol. It is called a sex offender registry.

          • Anonymous

            The chemical imbalance you are claiming…. I want a link to the info.

  • Anonymous

     Why even write about this crap.   It’s hate speech plain and simple.  What ever happened to “Judge not, lest ye be judged?”

  • Anonymous

    Question 1 supporters should love this guy. Thousands spent in advertising will never accomplish what several stories on this man can in support of same sex marriage. Those in favor of “no” should “closet”these extremists-they hurt your cause.

    • Anonymous

      shhhhhhhhhhhhh
      However I do think that Jesus would have wanted funds allocated a different way.  Advertising and demonizing a whole demographic didn’t seem to be his style.

  • jdtex

    Sometimes the truth hurts, and the deviants have a hard time accepting it.  I’m glad the gentlemen have the guts to say it.  Just because people are giving in to the idea of same-sex marriage doesn’t make it right.  Vote “No”, and keep Maine a family oriented state – not the San Fran of the East.

    • Anonymous

      The entire north east has gay marriage legalized. 

      • Anonymous

         I recently spoke with a woman from Scotland. she said she finds it so hard to believe how backward the USA is in some of their laws, ie, not allowing gay marriage.

      • Anonymous

        NO state has voted for gay marriage when it is taken to the people.

        • Anonymous

          until this time

        • Anonymous

          In about a week and a half, we’re going to be the first ones to do it. 

    • Anonymous

      deviant is being obsessed about someone else’s marriage——
      A research team from the University of Rochester, the University of Essex, England, and the University of California in Santa Barbara found that “[h]omophobia is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires.”“Individuals who identify as straight but in psychological tests show a strong attraction to the same sex may be threatened by gays and lesbians because homosexuals remind them of similar tendencies within themselves,” the study’s lead author, Netta Weinstein, explained.

    • maineiac123

       Sometimes the truth hurts and those that call others deviants have a hard time accepting it.  A hard time accepting their own bigotry, their own sexual feelings, their own lack of self-esteem.  Look in the mirror jdtex and say “I’m a good guy” keep repeating that and eventually you’ll believe it and then your bigotry and hate will go away and even you will support SSM.

    • Anonymous

      Truth?  Gentlemen?  They sure don’t behave or speak like gentlemen.

    • Anonymous

      Family-oriented state.

      That’s interesting.

      I had a friend who was, and still claims to be, a devout Christian. She did a presentation in our college class of how HIV and AIDS are punishments from God against homosexuality (never mind heterosexuals have no special defenses against HIV and AIDS). She once told another friend who invited her to attend a rally in San Diego for same-sex marriage that she would have to be carried there screaming and kicking.

      Then a funny thing happened. She cheated on her boyfriend in favor of dating a married man who had a son (and two daughters from two different women). The man’s wife got a divorce and the son lost his full-time father. A year later, this devout Christian, unmarried to this man, got pregnant. Then she realized that the guy was a creep (despite warnings from me, but that’s beside the point).

      She gave birth to a son in March. That son will not have a father, just like the man’s other children.

      Yet the devout Christian clings to parroting everything Focus on the Family says about how same-sex marriage endangers “traditional” marriage and threatens to destroy families.

      It’s sad.

      And she has said I’m the one going to hell.

    • Anonymous

      I have voted YES on question 1, because Maine should allow ALL its families the opportunity to protect the lives they build together, and the children they raise together, with civil marriage.

  • Anonymous

    So well said, and so true, thank you.

  • jdtex

    Perhaps consider trying paragraghs next time.  Thanks!

  • Anonymous

    Intergrating all law abiding people into society is a good thing.

  • Anonymous

    judging others again? …. picking specks out of other eyes when there’s a log in yours? unable to except others who don’t align with your extreme doctrine? ……  these are not true Christian concepts.  It’s sad how perverse these ideas they promulgate  have become.  

  • Anonymous

    the fact that you can no longer sell your daughter for two goats and a cow means we have ALREADY redefined marriage.

  • Anonymous

    Organized religion, and its us vs. them and good vs. evil view of the universe is an outdated neuro-evolutionary adaptation that we will either overcome or succumb to.

  • Ben Hutchins

    Oh, Michael Heath.  Don’t ever change.  Wait, I don’t mean that.

  • Anonymous

    Whether you agree or not, 10% to the population has been and always will be gay. Thought I don’t agree with the life style I do believe who we love is beyond our control regardless of the team we play for.

    • Anonymous

      10% is a LGBT community estimate, not the actual percentage. It is much lower than that. Still voting no on 1.

      • Anonymous

        While you are correct that the actual percentage is lower than 10 percent, you still fail to realize that anything above 0 percent is natural. Otherwise, it wouldn’t exist.

        • Anonymous

          Unnatural is a lot closer to the mark. This would explain the lack of a “gay” gene. 

          • Alec Cunningham

            Sigh…there is no gene that codes for any sort of behavior, gay, straight, compassionate, hoarding, etc.  We’re much more complicated than that.

          • Anonymous

            Though a ‘gay gene’ has not been found, it is widely understood that sexual orientation is not a conscious choice we make in life.

            Same-sex attraction is just as natural as being left-handed in life. And there’s really no justifiable reason to discriminate against homosexuals in regards to our laws, which is why I have voted YES on question 1.

          • Anonymous

            Curiosly enough, no “heterosexual” gene has been found.

            What might this suggest to you?

            Hint: There is no gene that codes for sexuality.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know where  Heath picks up this stuff…Jesus said NADA about gays; he did tell us to love one another.  HATE is “intrinsically harmful and evil.”

  • Anonymous

    “Let’s open up our altars and our Boy Scout tents to these deviants and be done with it”

    The church beat you to it.  Sorry. :(

    • GiGi80

      As did the BSA.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously evil must be rooted out….Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition but in the case of evil….Bring out the tar and feathers, the burning at the stake, the dismemberment….We should NOT fool around with evil…..

  • Guest

    I have never met an intrinsically harmful or evil gay person.

  • Gary Libby

    Whatever.

  • Anonymous

    Quit sticking your damned church into my State !

  • Anonymous

    The most telling aspect of this story?  That Michael Heath could only muster 35 people to hear his diatribe.   

    • Anonymous

      It is about the same size of the “crowd” at the Bangor Library when the man from out of state David Farmer with Equality Maine came.  People do have jobs and there is a storm in case you did not know.

  • David Giles

    I met Heath and his family over 20 years ago. This is the classic case of someone who is at conflict with his own identity.

  • Anonymous

    I am thinking this is a classic case of projection, and this guy is intrinsically harmful and evil.

  • Anonymous

    Voting “YES!” on Question 1…

    Straight, married, and proud!!!

    • Anonymous

      Me too!

      • Anonymous

        Woohoo!!!

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for your support! I voted YES on Question 1 yesterday— early voting is open across Maine!

  • MARINE73

    Thank you Mr.Heath, Mr. Labarbera and Mr. Madore for your presentation today.  As you can see from the comments on this article, there is a lot of hate for those of us who follow God’s laws.  The proponents of this bill have indeed gone to great lengths to hide the truth.  This issue is all about the homosexual agenda, forcing acceptance of homosexuality.   God tells us homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and offensive.  People can deny God’s word but they cannot change it.  It is what it is and will always be so.   What these commentors  refuse to understand, is that we are against the sin of homosexuality, not the person who commits the act.  Souls can still be saved if they renounce their sin to God and accept Christ.  We do not give up on the possibility of their salvation as it would be a joyous occasion.  But it their choice to make.   There is no hate here on this side of the issue.  If you see hate it is because you want to see hate.  We are only messengers trying our best to get you to hear the truth.

    • Anonymous

      “What these commentors  refuse to understand, is that we are against the
      sin of homosexuality, not the person who commits the act.”

      No Devil Dog we ALL understand what you are against. What you fail to understand is the State of Maine issues marriage licenses, not the church.

    • Anonymous

      I hate ignorance, and I don’t believe in your dogma.  Thankfully people are getting smarter……

      • i beg to differ..

        • Anonymous

           I agree, it seems to me that  people in general are getting dumber as time goes by. I think American intelligence peaked out in 1999.

        • Anonymous

          We are mapping genomes and discovering what the world is made of, we are learning about the cosmos, we are learning about the world around us and the only thing holding us back around the world is hate and moronic ideas of the past.  

    • Anonymous

      Takes hate to know hate, and these three sure show a lot of it.

    • Anonymous

      God also told you that a rape victim is supposed to marry her rapist. And that those who commit any sexual sin shall be banished from the church. And that eating shellfish is a sin. When will you ask your legislator to introduce bills to outlaw these things?

    • Guest

      Ahm, it’s you that are lacking the understanding. Didn’t your god make all men in his image and equal in his eyes?

  • Anonymous

    God will not be mocked, nor will He spare those who do not accept His Son as Saviour and Lord.
    He has always been in control, is now, and will be forevermore.  Man has a will and chooses to exercise it in the right or wrong way.

    • Anonymous

      There are people born with both sexes, and there are people born with both sets of DNA.  The sun doesn’t revolve around the earth and btw, the earth is older than 6,000 years.   Zeus and Thor were once the go-to deities.  

    • maineiac123

      Yep and I choose to exercise it in the right way.  I voted YES on 1.

    • Anonymous

      “God will not be mocked.”

      Of course he will.  What else is he good for?

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Garbage and mythology.

      Our civil law is based on neither.

      • well…no it really is..like the bill of rights and the constitution .nice rant though

        • Anonymous

          untrue

        • Tedlick Badkey

          Tell me then, why are the overwhelming majority of your “sins” perfectly legal?

          If your mythology were civil law, lying, swinging, and being gay would all be crimes as some up front simple examples.

          Explain it to us Keith.

          For extra credit, please demonstrate where your mythology is found in our constitution.

          Good grief.

        • Anonymous

          There is nothing in our bill of rights or US Constitution that is specifically from the Christian religion. Anything we prohibit (murder, stealing) is prohibited in all societies of all religions.

    • Anonymous

      He is in control, yet I can do what I want?

  • maineiac123

     Any other sins you’d like to see laws against perhaps even stoning for some.  You know like adultry, fornication, sassing your parents, not having 30 kids, you know that sort of stuff. 

  • Anonymous

    I was raised in a Christian home, as most Mainers, and was taught to respect and tolerate others.  “Charity begins at home”.   Spend more time helping your family, friends and neighbors and keep your nose out of others’ lives.  Marriage is a legal union.  I was married in the church by choice but I don’t frown upon the dozens of couples my mom married as a JP.  MLK would fully support SSM if he were around today.  No doubt.     

    • Anonymous

      So now you are speaking for Martin Luther King?  You should watch the African American Preacher Bishop E.W. Jackson voice his opinion on gay marriage and the comparison to the Civil Rights movement.

  • Anonymous

    That is interesting.  I think that the anti-gay lobby is evil.  THEY KNOW that there are people born with both sexes and 2 sets of DNA and somehow say that THEIR GOD didn’t build that.   I think that Mike Heath needs these controversies to make money.  

  • Anonymous

    And you don’t want to help support these unborn children AFTER they are born.  Also, if you do make it to the pearly gates you may be asked why you are a hater of some of God’s children that HE created.  I wish for you  a huge helping of compassion!

  • Anonymous

    If not having “gay marriage” is a violation of the “civil rights” laws, how come there hasn’t been a massive class action lawsuit over that fact?

    One thing ALL Americans have is the “freedom of religion” or simply the right to  believe in whatever religion they wish………or none at all. Yet when people talk about their religious beliefs, in these pages, which they have every right to do, they bring on all kinds of taunts and derision from the non-believers.

    So where is your “tolerance” of others opinons, or is it only “tolerance” when someone agrees with your ideas.

    America, unlike the middle east, is based upon the idea that we can agree to disagree, and be at least willing to allow others to express ideas that we may not like.

    They kill one another over this stuff in the Islamic world. Is that what is coming here eventually, if we keep attacking people we don’t agree with?

    In America today the “party of tolerance” is anything but!

    • Anonymous

      My marriage has nothing to do with religion.  If a gay person wants to get married they have my blessing. I am not even sure what your rant is about.

    • Tyke

       The problem arises when some folks want to impose their religious beliefs on others and get extremely negative when they are told that is not legal.

      No one I know of has suggested that anyone’s religious beliefs on marriage will be forced to change or that any church will be kept from setting and following it’s own doctrine.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Not paying attention to the courts, are ya genius?

      The desire to harm law abiding and tax paying citizens should never be tolerated.

    • Anonymous

      We are asking for access to civil marriage, which is separate from religious marriage.

      No one is calling for you to be denied rights. If you think that your freedom of religion allows you to limit the freedom of other Americans, you’re wrong. If we do not pass civil marriage equality this November, the US Supreme Court will surely rule in our favor one day. It just takes time for Constitutional challenges to reach them.

  • Me thinks they protest too much .  Evil? if that is the case than many regions who covered for pedophiles are much more EVIL.

  • Anonymous

    Of the couple people defending Heath on this thread, how many of them work for the anti-gay lobby, I wonder?  He knew this would be written here….

    • Anonymous

      Not anti-gay, just pro marriage.

      • Anonymous

        So you’ll be voting “yes.” Good.

      • Anonymous

        Me too! I voted YES on question 1, because we should absolutely allow ALL Maine families the opportunity to protect the lives they build together with civil marriage.

  • Tedlick Badkey

    Ah, Heath… The most closeted man alive (well, except maybe Porno Pete).

    I’m so happy you’re so insignificant. Even Emerich wants nothing to do with yo.

    Spew all the outrageous claims yo like, you’re going to lose.

    The fact that you clowns demonstrate you don’t even know what the Civil Rights acts cover speaks volumes.

  • Anonymous

    the NO vote will win!

    • Anonymous

       By what percentage ??

    • Tedlick Badkey

      And will inevitably be defeated in court.

      I look forward to both. Losing this election will only strengthen the case in court.

      For that, we thank bigots like you.

  • voting NO! now start nagging! geez..so respectful of “others”. tolerance abound by liberals..now go hug each other.

    • Anonymous

      You write like your logic: fragmented with great leaps.

  • JohnR

    They got the headline wrong…………
    ” Former Christian Civic League head: Homosexuality ‘intrinsically harmful and evil’”
    Should have read “Former and future Christians: We once followed the teachings of Jesus, but have since become intrinsically harmful, hateful and evil.”
    Sorry about the mix up.

  • Anonymous

    All queers, lesbians and pedophiles ought to live together in their own country. I think either Greenland or Antarctica would be the perfect place for these folks to live.

    • JohnR

        Yep, agreed just like all Christians, Muslims, and Wiccans ought to live in their own country, I think somewhere hot as he!! would be fitting.
        So you see we can work together, both sides, and reach a compromise. LMFAO, at some of the ignorance, seen here.

      • Anonymous

        These kind of people all over the world are religiously conditioned people and they much prefer to believe in myths rather than in scientific facts. And you will never convince any of them that we have limits of comprehension in the same way that my dog cannot comprehend algebra. I have no idea how, when or why the universe was created or even if, in fact, it was created. All of this is beyond even the mind of the smartest man on the planet – Steve Hawkins. I cannot imagine that intelligent people in this new age of knowldge and science can possibly believe there is such a thing as a god.

        • Anonymous

          Man created god in their image…  http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion  

    • Anonymous

      Hey, y’all.  I note that Bill Randall works at Verizon Communications.  I suggest we all contact Verizon and tell them we will leave and find another internet provider unless they get rid of him.  Maybe he should move to Greenland or Antartica.

      • Anonymous

        That attitude right there is exactly why I voted against question one. Threatening another persons job because you don’t like his opinion. I suppose you would like to take my teenage son (and indoctronate him to think like yourself)from me because I don’t agree with you either. Kinda gives merit to the whole homosexual agenda thing.

        • Anonymous

          anyone that suggests what randall suggests doesn’t deserve to be in  polite society, how about we send all the bigots to greenland or antarctica

          • Anonymous

            I have a lady that works for me who will vote yes on question #1 we have debated it round the watercooler and there is no way in hell she would ever be threatened with her job, so who is the tolerant one here?
            Opinions differ all of the time, but when you lose the right to have one, look out!

          • Anonymous

            i will bet that woman voting yes on one isn’t suggesting sending all the hetero sexuals to greenland or antarctica.
            perhaps you should condemn someone that suggests citizens he doesn’t like or agree with be sent out of the country- you know- like randal

          • Anonymous

            Learn to read, Northernmainer.  I am SURE that if either you or your lady friend at work went around publicly stating that gays and lesbians should be equated with pedophiles, you would be FIRED.  It is against the law to discriminate on the basis of adult sexual preference. It is against the law to create a hostile work environment for people, and I am sure if you at work stated that gays and lesbians are just like pedophiles, you would be FIRED and I for one would stand up and applaud!  It is against the law to have sexual contact with children who cannot give consent.  If you are unable to see the difference between debating SSM and equating gays and lesbians with pedophiles, you are simply stupid.

          • Anonymous

            I agree, but first contact Verizon to let them know that an employee who on his facebook page publicly identifies himself as a Verizon employee also equates publicly gays and lesbians with pedophiles.  I am sure they would be interested to know they have an employee making such statements for the whole world to read.  It is against the law in Maine to discriminate based on sexual orientation, you know that, Bill, right?  And yes, I am sending copies of your postings to Verizon, and yes, I do hope there are consequences.

        • Anonymous

          No, northernmainer.  Bill Randall is equating gays and lesbians with pedophiles.  I suggest that is hate speech directed at gays and lesbians.   It is against the law in Maine to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, age, religious affiliation.  What Randall doing is against the law.

        • There have been many businesses boycotted by the No on 1 side. Do not vote against my family because of some one elses actions. The opposition has boycotted, JC Penney just for hiring Ellen, amazon, expedia, Starbucks, etc etc etc . It is rampant on both sides but it started on the opposition. Google it and learn. If you are voting against my children having the right that other chidlren have just because you are mad at an attitude that is not shared by all that is discrimination at its finest. Go ahead, google and see how many companies were boycotted for supporting SSM. I dare you. 

    • Anonymous

      How about no?

      Maine is our home, we have a wonderful life here with great neighbors and a community that accepts and supports us.

      I surely won’t be trying to talk you into leaving this state, regardless of how the vote goes. But honestly, treating each other equally under our laws is the right thing to do.

      I have voted YES on question 1! Vote early folks!

  • Alec Cunningham

    So, anyone from the opposition going to call this guy out or are you going to conveniently pretend you don’t see this packing comment too and say all the nastiness is from our side?

    • Anonymous

      The Truth is the Truth!!!

      • Tedlick Badkey

        You’ve no idea what “truth” is.

      • Guest

        86’d

      • Alec Cunningham

        The truth is that your comment was nasty, vicious, and out of line.  Any crude comment you use for us can be applied to straight people, so get off your high horse, brah.

    • Anonymous

      That seems to be the case.  They certainly aren’t putting the ‘Christ’ in ‘Christians’ are they?

      • Alec Cunningham

        Just as I suspected.  They might say that it was removed before they saw it, but it’s in their mailbox.  

        Crickets.  That’s all we hear from them when their side is nasty.  But they call us bullies nonetheless. 

  • Anonymous

    Do the anti-hetrosexual crowd have a god.

    • Anonymous

      God>
       “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’” (Matt. 19:4.)

  • Anonymous

    you would think that christians would believe in live and let live. but they’re sinless and can throw all the rocks they want. why all the hate. i can’t see jesus spewing all this venom.

    • Anonymous

      on the no vote side

    • Anonymous

      You lack on the knowledge of spelling Jesus!!!!!,
      More than likely , you lack on the knowledge of ,,,,,,,,,, with a capital J Jesus!!!

  • Anonymous

    Truth?  Where?  Where?  These three horsemen of their own apocalypse wouldn’t know truth if it stared them in the face.  And they’re crude and profane beside, very un-Christian.

  • Anonymous

    There has been a lot of talk lately about the mentally ill in Augusta.  Seems there were a few extra in the capital this week.

  • Anonymous

    Bill Randall: (1 hour ago) “All queers, lesbians and pedophiles ought to live together in their own country. I think either Greenland or Antarctica would be the perfect place for these folks to live.”
    This guy works for Verizon.  I suggest we all contact Verizon and tell them we will all get another internet provider unless they send him packing.  Preferably to Greenland or Antarctica.

  • Anonymous

    Being convicted of pedophilia gets you jail time.  And your name gets on a list.  By the way, the rhetoric about marriage being between a man and a woman, what about all the recipes in my files that say to “let the ingredients marry?” Tongue-in-cheek here, of course, but it is part of our language. And another thing, all those “Johns” on the list out of Kennebunk, were their marriages ruined by the gays in their community? 

    • Anonymous

      Agreed— I have yet to find someone who is truly ONLY hung up on the use of the word “marriage” in civil marriage for same-sex couples. They also don’t seem to take issue with the use of the word marriage for modular homes (the marriage wall, where two halves of the home are joined).

      Nowhere in this nation are civil unions equal to civil marriage, and our US Supreme Court has ruled previously that separate systems are inherently unequal, and run afoul of the demands our 14th Amendment places upon our government for equal treatment under our laws.

      I voted YES on question 1, and I hope most Mainers join me!

  • Anonymous

    From what i have seen over the past few years is that the more strident someone is against gays the more likely they are secret  turd burglars themselves.  and  I am neutral on this I could care less one way or the other, I got better things to do with my time and money than to spend it on these wedge issues.

  • Anonymous

    preaching love and practicing hate, can’t the church see why people turn their backs on organized religion? some of the comments on this page from both sides of the issue reek of hate and ignorance makes me wonder how we made it this far and if man will advance in his knowledge and understanding of the world around us or if we stagnate where we are and slide back into the dark ages.

    • Hey…homosexual acts are sin! That is pretty easy to understand!

      • Anonymous

        so is lying but the no on one people don’t seem to be concerned about that

      • Anonymous

        so is hate if you want to talk about sin. sin is something we will have to deal with one on one when we meet our maker. i will bet a lot of the anti-gay marriage crowd are trying to hide their own tendencies toward homosexuality.legalizing same sex marriage will not change my life one bit. or yours i’m guessing.

        • It will change my life! All of a sudden, because of a few sinful people, My marriage will be defined in the same definition as a sinful union!

          That aint gonna happen chumly! We have told you people all along to call your unions something other than MARRIAGE!

          The term marriage is reserved for two people of the OPPOSITE SEX!

          • Alec Cunningham

            Sigh…hasn’t traditional marriages already been defined, as you call it, by the numerous sinful adulterers and murders who are in such marriages?

          • Anonymous

            Kind of like arguing with a brick wall huh?  They just keep spewing their rhetoric with no rhyme or reason.  The only reason I keep posting is hoping and praying that those that are sitting on the fence will see their lies and misconceptions and come over to the non-judgmental side.

          • Alec Cunningham

            Yeah, me too….!

      • Anonymous

        Eating shellfish is also a sin. But where would this state be without the seafood business?
        Wearing blended cotton is a sin as well. What is your shirt made out of?
        You cannot pick and choose parts of the bible that you want to preach.

        • Anonymous

          well, you can if you’re a hypocrite :)

        • Maybe you should revisit the passage Mark 7:14-23!

          • Anonymous

            I don’t need to read passages from an old book to know what hypocrisy means, thank you. I was brought up in a very Catholic family, and I know The Bible.

          • Then you are fully aware that homosexual acts are sin!

      • So is anything else unnatural like eating pork, women speaking in church, masturbation, irth control, tattoos, insolent children, working on Sunday. 

        • If you have read the Bible, you would know just how much of an argument you lack with that statement!

          • Anonymous

            If you have opened your heart to the Gospel, you would realize your opposition to the happiness of others is misguided and goes against the teachings of Jesus.

      • Anonymous

        There is nothing sinful or immoral about two people blessed enough to find in one another a supportive, committed lifelong relationship. God blesses our unions when they are honored in truth, regardless of our sexual orientation.

        • You have never read the Bible have you?

          • Anonymous

            If you had understood Christ’s message, you would be opposed to war and money-lending at usurious rates, not love and marriage. 

          • Anonymous

            I have read all of the New Testament, and much of the Old. I have taken years of bible studies, and graduated with a degree from a Christian college where college-level bible studies were required.

            I do understand the spirit of the Gospel, and standing against the equal treatment of gays and lesbians goes against the teachings of Jesus.

          • How are gays and lesbians being treated differently?

          • Anonymous

            We are denied the ability to protect our families with civil marriage rights. That is what this vote is about– allowing same-sex couples access to civil marriage.

          • Anonymous

            “Thou shalt not live with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination.”Also, Genesis 19Jude 1:7Romans Chapter 1. 
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          • Alec Cunningham

            EVERYONE needs a hug!

            Me.  1:1

        • Anonymous

          “Thou shalt not live with mankind as with womankind. It is an abomination.”

          Also, Genesis 19

          Jude 1:7

          Romans Chapter 1. 

  • East of Chamberlain Lake in th

    Odd, I’ve always been for an “agenda” of basic human rights and equality for all.  That’s the only “homosexua agenda”  I’m aware of.  Heath parted ways with simple logic a long ways back.  Make sure you, your family and friends all get out and vote to grant our gay community equal rights under the law!

  • Anonymous

    How much is Heath making for this?  I would like to know since I only see his name when there is an anti-gay thing going on….  It is almost like he has all the holier-than-thous giving him money for his shtick.  Google the guy and pretty much all he has on his resume is demonizing gay people.  

  • Anonymous

    I find it disturbing that the people who want to demonize Michael Heath are the same people who thought the fake “reverend” gay pedophile Bob Carlson was a “Community Religious Leader.”  

  • trisailer

    If this referendum is about redefining marriage, it makes it more inclusive. It rights a wrong and supports stable families. Marriage is about commitment and a desire to be in a loving relationship with one person.
    I don’t know what the gay agenda is beyond tolerance, but I’m well aware of what the religious agenda is and it is far more dangerous to society.
      

  • Jazz11

    ‘intrinsically harmful and evil’ That describes to a T, Michael Heath.

  • Pennywise The Dancing Clown

    why do you think there are hurricanes and earthquakes…the LORD doesn’t want gays to marry

    • Then why are there only hurricanes and earthquakes in places that are fighting SSM? Why are the Netherlands, DEnmark, Canada, all ok? 

    • Anonymous

      Earthquakes are from the interaction of plate tectonics.

      Hurricanes are from the interaction of high and low pressure atmospheric zones.

      Ignorance is from lack of curiosity or education.

      And God condemns rape, not love. Allowing gay and lesbian Mainers access to civil marriage is the right thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    Vote NO on 1!!!

    • Anonymous

      Sorry, I already voted!

      I’ve voted YES on question 1, and you should too! 

  • Anonymous

    The odd thing is that there are a number of “western” countries who have banned discrimination of any kind, including that based on sexual orientation, along with giving gays full marriage rights and, yet, the wall have still not tumbled down. Methinks Madore and Heath doth protest too much, and that their beliefs are predicated on the mistaken belief that being gay is a lifestyle. Ignorance is not so much a shame as being unwilling to do something about it.

    • Well…go there!

      • Anonymous

        perhaps all the anti equal rights people should head to the deep south where they would be more comfortable

        • No…we are perfectly happy up here with the proper definition of marriage, between one man and one woman, thank you very much!

          • Anonymous

            Well, you have about a week and a half left…

          • Anonymous

            Don’t speak for everyone please.  I would be more then happy to allow same sex couples to marry.  Thank you very much.  And why do you care?  What business is it of yours?  Why are you so hateful?  Why are you so judgmental?  You follow your path and they will follow theirs.  I don’t see what business it is of yours.  If you want to lead a heterosexual life good for you!  That doesn’t give you the right to tell other people how to live theirs. 

          • It does when these people want to redefine marriage to include sin!

          • Anonymous

            You will just have to get used to an expansion of that definition because Yes on 1 is going to win.

      • Anonymous

        Um, no?

        Maine is my home, and we have made a wonderful life for ourselves here. Being treated equally by our government is the right thing to do.

  • Anonymous

    more bs from the lunatic right

  • Anonymous

     Gay marriage has been going on for 4,000 years so why aren’t we all dead now  ?  Look up “the history of marriage “

    • Murder has been around at least that long…still does not make it right!

      • Anonymous

        denying equal rights has been around at least that long -still does not make it right

      • Anonymous

        So you are equating a couple who seeks to protect the life they built together with murderers?

        I forget where Jesus preached that the ends justify the means.

        • No…I am saying that no matter how much time has passed…a sin is still a sin!

          • Anonymous

            You are misguided in what you think is sin, then.

            There is nothing sinful about two people who have been blessed enough to find in one another a loving, committed, monogamous relationship that they wish to protect with civil marriage.

            If you are truly against sin, there are plenty of other groups you should be trying to deny marriage to— rapists, murderers, thieves, adulterers… the list goes on and on!

          • Anonymous

            Mr. Peters, your heart is so full of sinful hate, it blazes forth in evil energy detectable to one and all. You are one of the very least Christ-like posters on this board. 

          • Why would you say such a thing? Homosexual acts are sin…facts is facts! The very best thing homosexuals can do is ask for forgiveness and sin no more!

    • Anonymous

      If gay marriage REALLY had been around that long then we WOULD all have AIDS

      • Anonymous

        Well, it has been around that long, so the only other conclusion is that your analysis is incorrect.  Who woulda thunk it?

        • Anonymous

          No, it hasn’t been around that long, you’re just lying to further your agenda and stifle liberty and freedom!!!! AIDS is on the rise and America is on the  downfall, you watch and see if this passes. No on 1 if you prefer liberty and freedom and essentially America. Voting yes only means you MUST hate America!!!!

  • Anonymous

    So, let’s take a look at your statement. My guess is that you believe yourself to be a Christian, no? Funny, that, because Christ never said one word about homoseuxality. Yes, the anti-gay folks will cite various passages of scripture, but none of them directly or implicitly says anything about gay marriage. Further, those passages were writtent by MEN who had a political agenda, so it’s not surprising that the wording would be tilted one way or the other. The parts of the Bible that directly deal with homosexuality are in the Old Testament. That same Old Testament says that adulteres, those who dishonor their parents, those who tell fortunes, those who work on the Sabbath, among other “mortal sins,” should be put to death; do you still believe in those things? No? I’m surprised that you’ll cling to one, particular concept and disregard, ignore, or outright dismiss others which have clearly had a much more negative, though not devastating, impact on world society. You know what that makes you? A HYPOCRITE!

    • hey-I’m-your-man

      one mans opinion – but I am far from a hypocrite. But you are correct in calling me  Christian

  • SSBA Inc

    fast forward to the future the headline will read “Michael Heath former head of CCL busted with transvestite prostitute.”

  • Changing the definition of marriage from a union of one man and one woman to include a union of two men or two women is like changing the definition of “African American” to include all white people as well!
    Heck …why not…we’re ALL PEOPLE!

    • Anonymous

      No, it isn’t.  It is like telling people who are white that they can marry black people. There are people born with both sexes, there are people born with 2 sets of DNA.  You are right on one thing, though. We are all people.  

      • People born with both sexes,  people born with 2 sets of DNAare birth defects! Are you saying that people who are homosexuals are birth defects? I think your right!

        • Anonymous

          I guess brown eyes would be a birth defect to you too..  Perhaps ‘slanted’ eyes as well?  I think ignorance is a choice in most people who are probably capable of critical thinking but instead enjoy the drama of hating others.  Thankfully this state is getting smarter.  Some will say, after the hurricane missed us, that it was because Maine was about to make gay marriage legal in Maine, and then others will eat their words…

    • Anonymous

      Extending civil marriage so that same-sex couples can be treated equally under our laws by our government is an AMERICAN value. I don’t know what theocracy you dream of, but countries ruled by their religious leaders seem pretty backward places.

      • You are treated “equally” under the law just as I am! We both can marry the opposite sex! That’s about as “equal” as you can get!

        • Alec Cunningham

          Hugs, Bill.  You need a hug!

        • Anonymous

          Seriously, you think that asking gays and lesbians to enter into sham, loveless marriages achieves the ideal of equal treatment under our laws?

          That same logic was used in Jim Crow era legislation (look up ‘grandfather clause’, it was applied equally too), and was struck down as unconstitutional for good reason.

        • Anonymous

          I hope the fathers of all your grandchildren turn out to be gay men who fooled your daughters into sham marriages. 

          • Now your statement is a perfect example of hate!

          • Anonymous

             No indeed – I merely wish for you to gain wisdom and learn the error of your ways. Gay people should not be encouraged to marry straight people and vice versa for the purpose of keeping up false appearances.

    • Anonymous

      That doesn’t even make sense?  “marriage” is a state of being by two consenting adults.  Get that part?  Consenting adults.  No one is asking to redefine someone’s ethnicity?  Where do you come up with all this stuff?

  • GiGi80

    But murder is violence against an innocent victim. How does SSM victimize YOU? Or how does it impact anyone, other than the two parties who willingly enter into the marriage contract?

    What are you so desperately afraid of?

    • Anonymous

      People can’t be controlled if they don’t have a common enemy or fear.  The church has been losing their enemies.  They are afraid of becoming more irrelevant than they already are. 

  • GiGi80

    So you assume that all who support the legalization of same sex marriage are “anti-heterosexual”? What foolishness.  I support the right of same sex couples to marry and I am decidedly heterosexual.

    And yes — I have a God. And I believe in the teachings of Christ, who taught us to “above all, love one another.”

  • Anonymous

     “Better sleep with a sober cannibal than a drunken Christian” Ishmael -Moby Dick
    Just more bs from the anti equal rights side– anyone that seeks to deny equal rights to others has neither character or integrity– all they have is ignorance and  bigotry– bigots are the truly loathsome

  • Anonymous

    I hope the CDC is prepared to combat HIV and AIDS on such a wide spread level if this abomination passes. Whatever happened to freedom and liberty? Since when do we honor criminals with sick paraphillias?

    • Anonymous

      yeah, encouraging more people to enter to into stable monogamous relationships is really going to a boom in sexually transmitted diseases. You really think that makes sense? 

      • Anonymous

        It will if it’s a homosexual relationship!!!

        • Anonymous

          No, HIV and AIDS does not discriminate. What spreads this virus is sexual promiscuity, which is something that adults seeking access to civil marriage don’t engage in.

          The gays and lesbians who want access to civil marriage are the type of people you would probably like if you got to know them. We have settled down and started families in our communities, and civil marriage will help us better protect the lives we have built together, and the children we are raising together.

          I look forward to you being able to see that civil marriage for same-sex couples poses no threat to you or your life.

        • Two women have never passed AIDS. Stop focussing on men having anal sex….or maybe you should wonder why you are. 

        • Better AndBetter

          ROFLOL!!!

          Don’t have much education do you?

          You’re pathetic.

        • Anonymous

          You are soooo correct! No heterosexual person has EVER gotten HIV or AIDS.

      • Anonymous

        don’t expect the anti equal rights people to make sense

    • Anonymous

      Please share your logic— how does encouraging more monogamous relationships increase the possibility of AIDS spreading?

      Seriously— if you are concerned about this, you should be a vocal supporter of gay marriage, because that would help alleviate your concerns over this virus!

    • Anonymous

       Do you really know the history of  HIV AND AIDS   ?

    • The leading cases of AIDS are among heterosexual women and drug users. Gay men rarely have anal sex and when they do they are very careful. On the other hand, there has never been a case of two women passing AIDS to each other. NEVER< 

    • The largest proportion of AIDS cases are in Africa where being gay is illegal. 

    • Guest

      ……not worth it…..

    • Better AndBetter

      Um… hey un-educated one.
       
      Gay folks are not criminals.

    • Anonymous

      What are you talking about?  You don’t think that HIV and AIDS is passed on in heterosexual relationships?  And yes, whatever happened to freedom and liberty?  Why are we singling out some humans as “criminals” and not worthy of the same freedoms and liberty as the rest of us.  Who are you to pass judgment? 

    • Anonymous

       This is the new society where spreading aids and using children to further a cause is celebrated as tolerant and good.I pray for my grandchildren that have to live through tainted blood supplies and decayed society in the name of acceptance.

      • Anonymous

        How offensively ignorant, to equate lifelong, monogamous commitment with irresponsible sexual promiscuity?

        If this is truly your concern, you should be a vocal supporter of same sex marriage, so more gays settle down into monogamous relationships.

        But it’s not truly your concern, we have seen over the years that you will shift your allegiance to anyone who shares your desire to do harm to gay and lesbian Mainers.

        • Anonymous

           I believe gays should get help not enabling.

          • Anonymous

            We are absolutely trying to help gays and lesbians in Maine! Treating their families equally under our laws will go a long way toward protecting the lives they have built together, and the children they are raising together.

      • Alec Cunningham

        As Naran likes to say, “please.”

        Tainted blood supplies?  It’s not 1985, you know.  Using children?  As in the commercials the opposition use showing the kids that excited about a prince marrying a prince and the mother is horrified?  Decayed society?  Just WHEN will this society decay-people have been complaining about the decay of society for generations…!
        And really-SSM will SPREAD AIDS????  Are you people even using your brains????  Marriage is about lifelong monogamous commitment!!

      • Anonymous

        It is the people who remain ignorant that spread disease.  Ignorance not love!  I pray your grandchildren learn from tolerant people to love and accept and not be tainted with bigotry and prejudice.

  • Anonymous

    just more bs from the right– you only wish to protect your perverted view of society and ensure that it stays the way you would like it– you’re the one that hates freedom and as for hating america? thats you too, america was founded on equal rights for all. not just the right wing crazies you agree with

  • Anonymous

    care to have me start listing all the right wing “wide stance” republicans and evangelical church leaders that that have been caught slipping on both sides of the aisle so to speak?
    its quite a list

    • Anonymous

       So enabling them rather than helping them is the answer?

  • Anonymous

    care to have me start listing all the right wing “wide stance” republicans and evangelical church leaders that that have been caught slipping on both sides of the aisle so to speak?its quite a list

  • Anonymous

    Sorry. This is not “real” Christianity (a deserved barb since they are so willing to say that those who disagree with their dogmatic hysteria are not “real” Christians!). This is some kind of paranoid delusion: the same kind of illness that insists that the President is not a citizen, he’s the anti-Christ and wants to steal your guns. The same kind that talks about death camps and death panels and the “evil” gay agenda. And the same kind of sickness the screams that progressives want impose “Sharia Law.”  They can’t even see the dissonance in their contradictory messages. And this kind of rhetoric is pouring out of their so-called fundamentalist churches. The big money spreading this insanity around has to be made culpable as well as the pulpits screaming this nonsense in the place of the Gospel. It seems there is a kind of preacher that thinks screeching about every internet rumor, untruth and Palin tweet is the latest form of prophecy and will bring them fame and fortune.  It isn’t and it won’t! Real prophets like Isaiah are rolling in their graves with the taint of this nonsense and the church is becoming the laughingstock of the culture wars.

  • Anonymous

    bend over and smile

  • Anonymous

    Heath is probably gay himself. You see these guys and they raise all this stink then you hear they had sex with another man.

  • Anonymous

    It appears it you who hates freedom for all.

  •  coward’s hiding behind a book of lie’s condemning those who choose to love someone of the same gender just because your false prophet say’s its immoral and not His way using Him as your excuse for your baseless attacks on love a right we all have and shouldn’t be ashamed of. To use your religion as an excuse to condemn another person make’s you a bigot no better then a KKK member. You attack something you can’t understand or don’t want to accept like a child who can’t get its way throwing a tantrum,you make me sick. So much for separation of church and state just another bull crap attempt for big brother to make it look like they are trying to do something when there doing nothing at all.

  • Anonymous

    I must confess (intended) that I don’t get this wrathful “God  stuff.” My mother always told me to hold the door for others, be kind at all times and send a smile out to the world. “Yes” on one, with liberty and justice for all.

  • Anonymous

    “God’s marriage = 1 man and 1 woman”  So sayeth your god, and I respect your Faith in your church.  My government will say otherwise.

    • Anonymous

       Gay marriage has been happening  for 4,000 years so that must of been gods will

      • Anonymous

        Must be.  Polygamy, too.

        • Anonymous

          Yes that was around to they had that to 4,000 years ago

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Michael Heath and his hateful comrades come across exactly the same as those racist southerners when interracial marriage was legal only in some US states.

    Since our country’s inception there have been groups that have seen the promise of our Constitution, and petitioned our society for equal rights, access to government, and legal protections. And all along the way there have been people predicting doom and gloom and national destruction if we extend these things to one more group, race, sex, or other minority.

    And every time they have failed, and every time our nation has failed to self-destruct. This is just the next way in which our constitution is fulfilling its promise to ALL Americans.

    I was never involved in these discussions prior to 2009. I’ve lived in Maine many years and never made it a secret that I was gay, and no one ever made me feel uncomfortable here. Not my neighbors, not my coworkers, and not even the people I interacted with in neighboring towns. I never saw any need to be vocal about my need for equal treatment, because I saw no one visibly wanting to treat me differently due to my sexual orientation or the gender of my soul mate.

    When the Catholic church of Maine and NOM organized to take away rights our state legislature had granted me in early 2009, I suddenly became aware of an entire subset of Mainers who saw me and my life as some threat to them. I decided I needed to become engaged in these discussions to put my point of view in front of them.

    Most of the time, I realize I’m not changing their minds. But along the way I have found so many others here who support my rights, even if they aren’t affected by my lack of them.

    So thank you— and thanks to everyone here who stands up for the gays and lesbians who are fighting for equal treatment under Maine law, who are willing to take time to counter these baseless accusations and hurtful attacks that these trolls put forth.

    • Yes…”real Christians” do hate sin!….

  • Anonymous

    Certainly anyone who still doesn’t know how they might vote on Question 1 reads this and asks themselves… Do I stand with such bigotry and hate?  It’s sad.

  • Anonymous

    Republican Conservatives are intrinsically harmful and evil!

    • Anonymous

      So you don’t think you need republicans to win this vote. LOL! You walk amoung closet Republicans every day and don’t know it.. They fear the hate of liberals so they hide.
      Another thing. are you saying  Gay people are never republican?? I find that hard to believe all gays are liberals.. wishful thinking on your part.  

    • Anonymous

      Civil marriage equality is not a liberal vs. conservative issue.

      Upholding our Constitution is a Conservative ideal, and it is our 14th Amendment that commands us to treat Americans equally under our laws. That means the 1,100+ laws around civil marriage, too.

      I am a registered Republican, and I voted YES on question 1!

  • Do I hear dissension in the ranks? One Christian is angry that the other Christian isnt being cruel enough.

  • The why do other countries. who have had SSM for years, live in peace and prosperity? Maybe it is the hate that is killing us not the love. 

  • Anonymous

    We don’t want to destroy families, we want to allow more families the opportunity to protect themselves with civil marriage!

    I support traditional marriage AND same-sex marriage! No one who is voting YES on question 1 this November is seeking to forbid heterosexual couples from marrying.

    Your fevered hyperbole is ridiculous to anyone who rationally looks at this issue for what it is— should our government treat its citizens equally under our laws or not? Our Constitution demands that we do.

  • Anonymous

    What could be more evil and vile than giving everybody AIDS?

    How about spreading hateful ignorance about this disease, pretending that treating Mainers equally under our laws would cause it to spread?

  • God sent the angels to destroy Sodom before the incident of intended rape took place. Lot offered the crowd of deranged men his virgin daughter. You really think this story is about gays? I prayed for you. 

    • Anonymous

      Sodom and Gomorrah was about rape, not the committed love of two people seeking to live their lives together.

      I voted YES on question 1, because ALL Maine families deserve the opportunity to protect the lives they build together with civil marriage.

  • Tedlick Badkey

    Irrelevant mythology.

  • Tedlick Badkey

    More irrelevant mythology.

  • Guest

    Are you self taught?

  • Anonymous

    Seriously. Those in the gay population don’t care who we sleep with, so really, why do we care who they sleep with. My view of gays is they are simply different from me and it really doesn’t bother me. They don’t have accidental, unplanned kids they don’t want. Every child in a gay family is wanted and welcome. If you don’t care what your heterosexual neighbor does in his/her bedroom, then don’t bother worrying about what your gay neighbors are doing in theirs. It is the love and the relationships that is important, and I think it is up to God alone to judge all of us. I believe real Christians don’t judge.

    • Anonymous

      Well put!  I don’t believe I’ve ever introduced myself to someone and said, “Hi, my name is—- and I’m a heterosexual”.

    • Anonymous

      that was awesome.

  • Anonymous

    Can you be a Christian and be this hateful at the same time?

    • Better AndBetter

      Just read tehse comments…

      Maine appears to be full of such “loving christians”.

      • Anonymous

        It is so sad really.  Is this what some churches are teaching?  Hate, bigotry, judgment, and a “better than thou” attitude?  I am so disappointed in the Christian community and some of my fellow Mainers.  I thought we were a live and let live state.  It actually puts tears in my eye to see and hear the hatred and bigotry being spewed.

  • Anonymous

    The wisest response I’ve seen on this question is buried in these comments and I’ll repeat:
    It is the State of Maine that issues a marriage license,  not some church.

    Fundamentalists of any religion are dangerous.

  • Anonymous

    God condemns rape, not love.

    There is nothing sinful about two people blessed enough to find in one another a loving, supportive, lifelong commitment.

    Your obsessive distain is contrary to the spirit of the gospel and the love Jesus preaches.

    I voted YES on question 1!

    • Anonymous

      Please, try to ignore SonOfBangor.  He is a troll who is just looking to get agitated responses.  If we ignore him, he will hopefully get bored and find some other place to troll.

      • Anonymous

        Why is he even still allowed to post?  The guidelines clearly define what is acceptable and what isn’t.  Maybe a little taste of his own condemnation is warranted here?

        • Anonymous

          The thing is, I think that is what he wants.  He most likely doesn’t actually believe anything he is posting.  He just wants to get people upset and fighting with him. 

  • Anonymous

    That sounds like a mob seeking to rape, not committed families seeking to protect their lives with marriage.

    Sodom and Gomorrah was about rape, not the committed love of two people seeking to live their lives together.

    I voted YES on question 1, because ALL Maine families deserve the opportunity to protect the lives they build together with civil marriage.

  • Anonymous

    What about the 14th Amendment?

  • Anonymous

    I think we can see who is being ‘evil’ here today.

  • Anonymous

    Jude 1:7 does not condemn the committed, truthful love two people are blessed to find in this world.

    We should encourage more families to enter into civil marriage, not seek to harm Mainers out of misguided, hateful interpretations of the Old Testament.

  • Anonymous

    Watch this video and don’t be fooled by thier lies…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JsRx2lois

    • Better AndBetter

      Great video!

  • Better AndBetter

    Afraid of nudity too, huh?

    Pathetic little demon.

  • these so-called Christians should realize that this is not the 15th century…

    • Anonymous

      if it were, they would be complaining that we were redefining marriage to be about love and commitment to family, and not about dowries, property inheritance or political dynasties.

  • just like the taliban…

  • Anonymous

    The moral majority is neither moral nor the majority.

    • Homosexual acts are sin!

      • Anonymous

        I stand by my statement. The moral majority is neither moral nor the majority.

        • If that is how you see it, then make a stand for morality and vote down homosexual sin!

      • Anonymous

        If you think the only reason for marriage is sex, you’re a sad, shallow human being.

  • Better AndBetter

    35 People? That’s it?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

    Such people are meaningless.

  • Anonymous

     ɯnɔs sbɐq

    • Alec Cunningham

      A good one:  “Phillip Hinkle-The Indiana State Representative, who voted to pass a constitutional amendment defining marriage as solely something between a man and a woman, has been caught trying to bribe an 18 year old male teen he met on Craigslist for sexual favors.
      Read more at http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne?page=4#8oBQTxSyGYhqfAbu.99
      I know that some of these guys feel it’s okay to fool around with another guy, but it’s never okay to actually have anything serious with another dude.  Yeah, go to the motel room with him and get down, but WE are the sick ones because we actually love another man!
      Thanks for posting these links!!!

  • Anonymous

    More to the point, “Former Christian Civic League Head:  Homosexuality ‘Intrinsically harmful, evil’, but hatred and ignorance are wholly embraced to drive our agenda.”  HYPOCRITES!HYPOCRITES! HYPOCRITES! HYPOCRITES! HYPOCRITES! HYPOCRITES!  Every last one of them.

  • Anonymous

    I was hoping  that we’d already heard the last from this highly  pathetic and ignorant excuse for a human being   He doesn’t deserve to be labeled a person.

  • http://www.ranker.com/list/famous-american-serial-killers/web-infoguy

    There are many serial killers who go after women. 

  • Wait, this guy hated gays. He wasnt gay. Do you read before you post? You just proved our point. Gay haters are sick. The gay guy did the right thing here.

    • Anonymous

      He was a homosexual. That fact was deleted from the article for the sake of political correctness. 

  • anonme 527

    Homophobia, like racism originated from war, not peace and can be seen accordingly as an act of militancy, not civility.

  • Tedlick Badkey

    Hmmm… I’m beginning to wonder if sonofbangor and Heath are one in the same…

    They sure do sound alike, and about as many people listen.

  • First of all, I don’t believe in your God so why do I have to fallow what you think are his rules?  Separation of Church and State is there for a reason. Not everyone is christian.  Second, how am I hurting society?  You know what’s harmful, loveless marriages, multiple divorces,alcoholism, Priests’ molesting boys, shall I go on?  You want to help society? Stop the hate, it’ll kill ya.

  • Heath seems like he’s hiding something? I think he’s protesting a little to much, what do you think?

    • Anonymous

      Spot on, Wyatt!

    • Anonymous

      Deflection is what I think!

  • Anonymous

    Dear Lord, thank you for your divine creation, however, I feel we are on a downward spiral and we don’t know how to stop it.  Where you taught love, there are so called Christians that are teaching hate in your name.  Where you taught tolerance, there are more so called Christians teaching intolerance in your name.  As a matter of fact, these so called Christians are pretty busy name dropping and I am afraid that in their zealousness they have forgotten Your simple teachings of love, tolerance, peace, acceptance.  These are the blessing we enjoy and send forth each and every day we are here on God’s green earth.  These are the lessons I learned from you and thank you for them.

    • Homosexual acts are sin!…no hate involved!

      • Tedlick Badkey

        Sin has no bearing on civil law.

        • Civil Law is rooted in Religion!

          • Tedlick Badkey

            Then please explain why only two of your 10 “commandments” are crimes… and why most of your “sins” are perfectly legal.
            Our law and our government are secular in nature… they do not bow to your mythology.

  • Anonymous

    Rom 1:26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    Rom 1:27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    Rom 1:28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
    Rom 1:29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
    Rom 1:30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
    Rom 1:31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
    Rom 1:32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    God is against same sex couples.  This is not about rape.  It states women and men giving up their natural use of each other in their vile affections.  Natural use does not = rape.  It is a vile affection because god doesn’t agree with it. 

    • Anonymous

      God is opposed to war and usury but the Pentagon and Wall Street rule America.

      • Focus….sinful homosexual acts are the topic…focussss!

    • Anonymous

      There is nothing immoral or sinful about the committed, monogamous, supportive love two people have for one another, and same-sex couples blessed to find this should be allowed the same opportunity for civil marriage.

      God condemns rape and victimization, not love. I see nothing in the passages you share here that speaks against the true committed love two people have for one another, regardless of their gender. I see condemnations against lustful abandon and poor character, not lifelong commitment toward one another.

      • God condemned homosexual acts! Homosexual acts are sin!

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Religion is not civil law.

      It’s meaningless… a choice at best, a harmful world view at worst.

      • Without religion there is no moral compass. Without a moral compass there is you!

        • Tedlick Badkey

          Untrue… You give mythology way too much credit.

        • Joseph

          Deleted by me.

        • Anonymous

          Ah, yes, religion, which gave us slavery, rape, incest, murder, and war.

    • Ben Hutchins

       Bollocks.

    • Anonymous

      This proves little, but one thing ….. little has changed since these words were written a long time ago by some dude. Obviously the inherent nature of man doesn’t change …. at all?

  • Mike Hein

    Mike Heath and Paul Madore spoke out publicly for truth and righteousness yesterday concerning marriage just before the storm landed, and Central Maine was spared the dire predictions of the hurricane. 

    Some will say, however, that this was just a coincidence.

    • Anonymous

      Do you still work for Mike Heath?

      • Anonymous

        The comments are probably going to be closed soon folks…

    • Tedlick Badkey

      BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA!!!

      oh man… That’s funny!

      Tell me insane one… What did the good people of Joplin, MO do to anger your sky monster?

    • Ben Hutchins

      … because it was.

      Also, I don’t think “predictions” is the word you wanted there.  Central Maine received plenty of dire predictions.

      Anyway! I believe it was Heath’s old outfit that launched a press campaign back in 2004 in which they encouraged the public to “e-mail us tips, rumors, speculation and facts” regarding the sexual orientation of Maine political figures, so that they could put them all on the Web.  That’s not “truth and righteousness”, it’s yellow-bellied, scurrilous rumormongering with an eye toward blackmail.

      (Amusingly, this happened a few days after the then-governor’s spokesman described the CCL as “a collection of cuckoo clocks not interested in what’s in the best interest of Maine people,” instantly proving his point.)

    • Anonymous

      No, I will say that is the predictable actions of high and low pressure zones, the same science that helped us all prepare for the storm had predicted it would land in New Jersey some time ago.

    • Anonymous

      Are you a person who stands convicted of election fraud?  Go away.

  • wow, what a shallow god this guy worships. Instead of doing
    anything godlike — you know, like alleviating human suffering or smiting evil
    murderers, rapists, and plunderers — his god gets all twisted about a certain
    type of people — people who are part of “his” own creation — and in
    a juvenile rage takes it out on cities with weather events. Wow, I’m so
    impressed at the histrionics, “God” — not. 

     

    • My advice to you…pick up a Bible and start on page 1! God bless you dear.

  • Anonymous

    Not Christian.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Listen, it is very easy to understand.put religion,gay equality and all the other foolishness aside and vote NO on question # one !

    But do not worry ! If gay marriage should get voted down this time,we will get a chance to vote on it again in a few years.

    • Anonymous

      What is your reason to vote no? Voting yes will be helpful to Maine families.

  • Anonymous

    tell your wife to put her burqua on and bow before allah,cristian taliban is the same as the muslim nutjob  taliban. unteach your girl children to read and  buy a prayer rug.i raised 4 kids have 3 grandkids and still believe my marriage does not matter to you or anyone else but god me,my wife and the family i raised.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.humanistsofutah.org/1992/art4june92.html

    Interesting read for all Americans in my opinion.

  • Anonymous

    Let them marry!! Just say goodbye to your freedom!!!

    • Anonymous

      What freedom would you possible be denied once same-sex couples in Maine have civil marriage?

      • Anonymous

        The freedom of protection from degenerates!!! This is the first step in crumbling this once great nation!

        • Anonymous

          You are so judgemental about people you won’t even take the time to know. We are not “degenerates”, we are your neighbors, your coworkers, and your family. We live lives like yours, and we have the same aspirations for our time together with our soul mates.
          I have voted yes on question 1, because Maine families seeking to protect their lives with civil marriage are not “degenerates”, they are Mainers just like anyone else in this state.

        • Tedlick Badkey

          You are a degenerate… who’s protecting us from you?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if we all considered the children first then we would all think differently and everyone would vote no on 1. What about the children?

    • Anonymous

      Actually, caring about the children of Maine is a very good reason to vote YES on question 1.

      There are many aspects of civil marriage in place for the protection of children, including access in hospitals and ability to be there for a child in an emergency at school. And if a couple divorces, the laws of civil marriage help determine child support and visitation rights.

      • Anonymous

        at what cost? teaching the youth of today that perversion is ok? ‘Fraid not! Not on my watch!!!

        • Anonymous

          If you care what is taught in schools, you should participate in your local school board. Maine does not set school curriculum at the state level. Even Mark Mutty acknowledged that the deceitful ads of 2009 were dishonest and wrong on this topic.

        • Tedlick Badkey

          Good thing it ain’t up to you in the end.

          I can’t help but wonder what lunatics like you will do when gay marriage is legal nation wide. I foresee violence not seen since the 60’s when your mindset rioted in the streets due to the end of school segregation.

  • Anonymous

    We might as well legalize murder and incest while we’re at it!!!

    • Anonymous

      You truly equate the loving, supportive, lifelong commitment two adults share to murder?

      Wow. Not much room for empathy on this issue for you, is there?

      • Anonymous

        empathy is not for scoundrels

        • Anonymous

          So, stop being a scoundrel and open your heart.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Complete idiocy…

      Your parents should be ashamed at the stupidity of their child.

  • Anonymous

    Mitt Romney believes that God lives on a planet called Kolob. 

    You won’t find Kolob in the Bible because Joseph Smith made it up out of his own fertile imagination when he made up the rest of the Book of Mormon.

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