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  • Once again the Bangor paper has not been able to find a single bond they don’t support.  More bonds equal higher taxes.  Higher taxes mean more families loosing their tenuous hold on the “American Dream.”

    • Anonymous

      You either pay now or pay more later on

  • Anonymous

    How much do we owe for the bonds we have now?

  • Anonymous

    The gas tax should be raised and truckers should pay their fair share for the massive amounts of damage they inflict on state roadways.

    • I bet the truckers would agree with you, if they only had to pay their fair share, then they would be able to keep more of the money they make. Instead they pay more than their fair share and Maine truckers are going out of business.

      • No, They may pay a lot, but they don’t pay enough. One 100,000 pound logging truck using a non-Federal highway causes more damage in one trip, than a passenger causes in a million miles of use.

        Many roads (built by the State) in Maine have no “foundation.  They just paved the cow path and kept doing it year after year.  Then the State government raised the weight limit from 80 to 100 thousand pounds without raising the cost for use. 

        Yeah, I know the argument.  We pay for everything moved here by truck.  Then let “uys” pay.  The people who do not buy stuff then won’t have to pay.

        That is called “reality.”

        •  Here is some more reality for you, many of those roads were originally built by those logging companies you are whining about. Those roads wouldn’t even be there if it weren’t for the loggers. You are right in some respects though, they do damage. Of course the mills they service were built along rivers, not along roadways because the roadways weren’t built yet. So shouldn’t the buyers of the wood be responsible for the damage done to the roads? If they moved their billion dollar plants closer to the Interstate system then there would be no truck on the side roads. So charge the mills for the damage.  Your answer would put thousands out of work, but who cares, we can just get trucks out of Canada to do it, right?

          • Anonymous

            So your argument is I should subsidize your job? Who is “whining?” These are State roads we are talking about. Maybe the British built them before we were a Nation, but that really doesn’t matter now does it?

            here’s another reality for you:

            Our government is charging that Canada subsidizes (illegally) it’s Forest Products industry.  Is my paying for the roads these trucks use in the US a subsidy??  If not, why not?

          •  Your argument was about trucks, Canadian trucks pay fuel tax to the State of Maine for all miles driven in Maine just like U.S. trucks do. So Canadians are paying for the roads they use. If you want anything, literally anything from food, clothes, furnishings, building materials, and/or pretty much anything you can imagine, it takes a truck. You want it, you pay for it. The trucks pay more than their share to bring you the things you need to live.  Even the 1% can’t live without trucks.

          • Anonymous

            And many weren’t.

        • Anonymous

          The truck does cause far more damage.  You’re correct on that point.

          Except for Forest Service and National Park roads, there are no, repeat, no, Federal roads in Maine.  The Interstate System, the National Highway System, and the other roads that receive money from the Federal Highway Trust Fund, are State highways, without exception.  The term “Federal Highway”, is almost always used incorrectly by the media.

          Roads that are “just paved cow paths” have never been built, by definition. 

          Tux, you need to buy a private island somewhere.  Make sure that when you travel to the mainland, you don’t use any public boat landings.  Don’t walk along a public road, because after all, you are a non-paying pedestrian.  Don’t eat any food, because it is probably subsidized somehow.  Make sure you only urinate in the woods, because water supplied by a system that was improved by bond financing, might be used to flush your pee down the drain.

          An educated population obviously is of no benefit to you, so you shouldn’t pay.  You’ll probably never need the fire department, so you shouldn’t pay.

          We could set up an accounting system that could calculate and then bill, each individual citizen, what he/she owes as an appropriate share of taxes, based on what that person receives in services.  Anyone with any sense can see that such a system would be far more costly than what we are doing now.

    • Anonymous

       Ok but you will still pay no matter what happens . just stop an think you will pay either way .

  • Anonymous

    The truths asserted in this article are just wrong, wrong wrong. Wake up people and vote NO!

    • Sherman2

      What in the article was “wrong, wrong, wrong”?

  • Anonymous

    The bond issue presented through referendum question 4 will, in part, support DCP Conoco Phillips’ 23 million gallon LPG storage tank that is proposed to be built at Mack Point in Searsport; the channel needs to be dredged to accommodate the huge LPG tanker ships that will deliver the propane.  The citizens of Maine will pay costs associated with building and operating the storage tank through lower residential property values, the cost of public safety infrastructure, and lost tourism income that will result from aesthetic impact of the tank and increased truck traffic.  DCP is a large and profitable company that neither needs nor deserves any further public support.  I will vote NO on Question 4.

    • Anonymous

      Very small part if any.  That channel is overdue for dredging anyway.

    • Anonymous

      So if its build out of state an they half to go the same thing the cost will not be past along  ?

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