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  • Anonymous

    “When I grew up
    in Bangor, it was not this Bangor,” Nealley said in explaining his concern
    about more prevalent crime in the city. “Bangor has changed.”

    He said that
    with new patrol officers coming to the Bangor Police Department from the
    academy, resident involvement and council support, the city could start to look
    more like the Bangor he grew up in.

    ISN’T THIS ONE
    OF THE PRIOR COUNCIL THAT REFUSED PAY RAISES TO CITY EMPLOYEES, INLUDING BANGOR
    PD? The hypocrisy of politicians never ceases to amaze me. Eight new officers?
    They are replacing eight veterans who have had enough of the crap City Hall
    feeds them. This will be the first eight in a long line. Stop being politicians
    and start doing what is right for our community!!

    • Anonymous

       A little history. Sometime in the late 60’s there was an influx of money and a large number of new young officers were hired. Those officers retired in 1987-88 after 20 years. (The retirement age then.) There were many new hires during that period and now 25 years later there is another set of retirees ending their careers. There is no anti-city hall fervor. Its just time for retirement and coincidence. There are currently a number, 8-10, officers at the criminal justice academy and won’t be ready to come on duty until sometime after the start of the new year.
      That said there does need to be a pay review for the police. These guys are underpaid relative to their peers in other departments. The problem comes on where to get the money from. Higher property taxes or the current municipal budget are the only sources of revenue. The Feds pop in for a little bit one year and take it back the next so can’t be counted upon. It is a real dilemma.

      • Anonymous

        I disagree that we are not losing veteran officers because they are, in part, tired of putting up with city council decisions that weaken the department. Many could stay but are tired of having to swim against the tide which is the city council.

      • Anonymous

        One other thing…after the PD trains those 8 new officers…how many do you think will stay after they learn other departments in the area pay more money and have a better retirement package?

    • Anonymous

      And Blanchette also

    • Anonymous

      Although it is a problem for all departments to hire good recruits one would think that Bangor would be a place that potential officers want to work. Not so. Part of the reason Bangor has a hard time recruiting and retaining is the lack of a stable retirement plan and no raise in at least 3 years. The department is not well supported by the city council. The citizens have fought all along to support their emergency medical services but the council has not. Nealley should not be a city councilor and neither should Blanche.

  • Anonymous

    Blanchette said that her 17 nonconsecutive years on the
    council gave her experience that “brings a level of stability” to a group with
    several young members.

    Stability? You call refusing to support City employees’
    stability? No raises in several years? I call it criminal! You waste more time
    money and energy on hiring new employees than you do retaining the talent you
    current have. How many departmental heads have changed in the past few years? For
    example: the council chases Jim Ring out of office only to hire him again as a
    private consultant at a higher rate. Good for you Pat, that’s stability. Good
    for you Jim Ring. Ed Barret – let go only to be grabbed by Lewiston before Ed
    can clean out his office. Members of the City Council cannot see employees as a
    necessary evil. They must be seen as an asset or there will be no stability! No smiles and double talk – COMMITMENT!! Like the employees!

    • Anonymous

       Ironic to hear Blanchette tell us that she brings ‘stability’ to a young council.  I’d vote for 9 Ben Sprague’s if they were running.

      • Anonymous

         Sprague has been pretty good all in all. I was surprised. There again he does have a financial background and understands how money works.

      • Anonymous

        Durgin and Hawes will love your “young council” comment.

  • Anonymous

    if they are harkening back to a kinder gentler Bangor with less drugs and crimes and at the same time tying the alleged uptick in both to a “… boom in activity and development downtown and along the waterfront…” they certainly pass the smell test for being politicians.

  • Anonymous

    If perspective judges were grilled an an open forum, we might have less crime. These candidates can’t put the bad guys away and throw away the key. 

  • Guest

    I’m glad someone asked the candidates about contracting out more work to private firms.  The way some city services are run is wasteful and unproductive.  Private firms could do a lot better for less.

    And to all those whining about no raises for city employees – no one has been getting raises in this economy.  I believe a lot of city employees are overpaid for the minimal work they do as it is.

    • Anonymous

      “to all those whining about no raises for city employees” should do some homework. Almost everyone that works for the city has received raises recently except the Bangor PD. Look at public works and the school department.

      • Anonymous

        Are you serious, Bangor Pd got raises about a two months ago

        • Anonymous

           Not true.

          • Anonymous

            Really, then some of the cops are lying, but what is new they all lie. Enjoy your day

  • Anonymous

    A neighborhood watch group is something done by a neighborhood.  Interesting when one person tries to take credit for something like that.

    • Anonymous

      Kind of like when one person wants to take credit for killing Osama Bin Laden or when people want to blame one person for getting us into a war oversees. It takes more then one you say?

    • Briney

      Romney believes that successful corporations are the work of one man. Hence, the lady’s pride in doing it all by herself. 

      • Anonymous

        You didn’t get those college grades all by yourself. You didn’t do that!!

  • Anonymous

    Where’s the boom in growth? The Casino is making less than it did two years ago, The Cross Center is City funded, the Waterfront has not returned a nickle on whats been invested. I hope the gamble pays off, but I don’t see it on the balance sheet yet. 

    • Anonymous

      I am not a fan of pessimism but instead reality. The two are often confused.

      1. The casino numbers will continue to drop until the market absorbs the Oxford impact. There is a long way to go here.
      2. The Cross Center is going to lose money every year for the first 10 and that is expected as best case scenario. The taxpayer will pick up this burden and no one else.
      3. The waterfront concerts will never be able to return to the taxpayer the money that was donated to fund their for profit private business.

      There are slivers of boon going on in Bangor but I completely agree there are many more liabilities then assets.

    • Anonymous

      What do you mean city funded.  Hollywood slots is supposed to be paying for the services there

  • Conley Raye

    I believe Bangor needs a indoor flea market that can draw and function year round. In FLA these larger flea markets are a major draw plus they offer entertainment in the center. There are no other around and only could be a success if done right, clean and family oriented. A great opportunity for Bangor is looming out there. In addition, look at how many jobs would be involved as vendors. It could involved our Canadian neighbors also. With Bangor International Airport, merchandise could arrive from all over the world. 

  • Anonymous

     “When I grew up in Bangor, it was not this Bangor,” Nealley said in
    explaining his concern about more prevalent crime in the city. “Bangor
    has changed.”

    He was one of the former councilors that supported methadone clinics when he used to be on the council 10 years ago. His campaign should be to stand outside the methadone clinics shaking, shaking hands. Oh that wouldn’t work, most of them get paid mileage to drive to Bangor to get their free heroin everyday.

    Who am I? “Quite frankly, moreover, I am buoyed by the quite frankly bullish trend Bangor moreover has experienced quite frankly moreover quite frankly”.

    .My vote will be for Civiello, Bruns and Santa

  • Briney

    I didn’t know who Ken Huhn was, until I read this article.  Now he’ll get my vote.  

    Putting the moorings back in  Bangor Harbor would be a major step toward getting  some salt back in the Bangor Pool.   More boats, ships, and tie ups would look good and pay more.  

    Re-awakening the city to its all but forgotten role as a hub for shipping goods – foreign and domestic, would be revitalization of that long, lost aspiration. 

    Capitalizing upon what we have, and developing it even further for the benefit of both business and public is a winning policy.  

    We need someone on the council with the drive to move the city forward in those areas that have lain dormant for too long.  

     We have the port, the docks, the airport, and the rails.  Let’s use ’em. 

    • Anonymous

      Respectfully, the moorings being talked about are for recreational boats owned largely by wealthy, out-of-towners who want to come up the River to eat and drink at the downtown bars, do a little gambling, and maybe get premier parking for a waterfront concert. The current docking doesn’t provide enough revenue to fund a 40 hour per week Harbormasterwith the boat owners wanting and expecting 24 hour, 7 day a week service and security.

  • Bangor used to be a fun place to visit, to shop, to stroll, to eat. 

    Stillwater Ave and Hogan Road are a nightmare, the city is noisey, unfriendly, and it smells. I never go there unless I absolutely must (usually to E.M.M.C. for my sister, or the Bangor Eye Clinic for my neighbor.)

    When we go we eat in Brewer, and leave the area as fast as possible.

    • Anonymous

      350,000 people come to Bangor on some kind of regular basis to shop, use medical services, fly  etc. It’s a nice luxury for folks from out of area to come here where we area residents provide an airport, new arena,police , etc.as well as an expensive infrastructure to support it all. On top of that- a lot of these “undesirable” folks are not our own, but hail from all over central, eastern and northern Maine. When I was a kid we played in the middle of Stillwater Ave. and dodged a vehicle once in a while. You are correct, it’s not the same place as it used to be. However, if it’s that bad- Portland and Boston have superior medical services and fine restaurants. In addition there’s no crime and those cities smell like roses.

      • …and your point is I should go elswewhere?

        Already done that.  As I said I drive my sister and my neighbor  over there occasionally.  personally I wouldn’t buy a rat trap in your pseudo city.

        • Anonymous

          My family has been in Bangor since the 1840s. We came here as dirt poor Irishmen. We’ve worked hard and prospered and like it here just fine with or without your whining. They sell rat traps almost anywhere you know. 

  • Anonymous

    I found the forum not very informing. Very little talk of core municipal services other than”we’re all in favor of making the streets safer”. More concerts and festivals isn’t economic development- most of the money leaves town and what little stays ends up in the bars and resaurants. How many liquor licenses are downtown compared to 20 years ago? Ask any Police Officer what is a higher priority- a vagrant passed out on a porch in the westside neighborhood or someone coming out of any one of 4 dozen bars in the greater downtown and getting behind the wheel of 4000 lbs of steel. I hope I know what all will answer. I don’t recall one suggestion of how to address the safety/ crime issue…neighborhood watches are for neighborhoods to police themselves for quality of life issues and in loco parentis (in place of the parents) not to deal with the severity of crime we are seeing today being imported and supported by our welfare system.

  • Anonymous

    Pauline Civiello is a lady of integrity and has many good, conservative ideas about saving money for Bangor’s taxpayers.
    VOTE Pauline for Bangor City Council.

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