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  • MARINE73

    Once again, this issue is being twisted to appear as an issue of compassion and love, which could  not be further from the truth.   This issue is really about homosexuality.  The question that is really being asked is do you think homosexuality is acceptable behavior?  The attempt to cover up the truth with pretty words like “gay” and  rainbows and how everybody who loves somebody should be able to marry, is nothing but deception.  This also has nothing to do with whether or not someone is Democrat or Republican.  It’s ONLY about the sin of homosexuality.  Do you accept that men having sex with other men and women having sex with other women is natural?  Is it morally right?  Bringing this issue back to the ballot until the homosexual activists get the results they want is not going to change God’s law on this issue.  God clearly tells us homosexuality is an abomination.  He tells us it is a sin.  The city of Sodom was leveled to the ground because of the perverse sexual acts of the people living there.    When people choose to live like there are no consequences and deny the existence of God, everyone loses.

    • Sectar114

      Sorry…..but that would be YOUR GOD.

      • Anonymous

        .> Sorry…..but that would be YOUR GOD.

        Fine, but She carries any less weight than yours, how, under the of Laws of the USA ?

        Faiths Allowing Same-Sex Marriages 
        United Church of Christ: The United Church of Christ was the first mainstream Christian church to fully support same-sex marriage and perform marriage ceremonies. 

        Jewish: Reform Judaism embraces same-sex marriage and rabbis can perform ceremonies.

        Quaker: The willingness to perform gay marriages varies by meetinghouse, but there is some acceptance and performance of same-sex marriages among Quakers. 

        Metropolitan Community Church

        Unitarian UniversalistFaiths

        Allowing Limited Same-Sex Marriage 

        Episcopal: In the Episcopal Church, priests are authorized to bless same-sex wedding ceremonies but not declare the marriage official or sign the marriage license. Episcopal priests in Eastern Massachusetts can fully marry same-sex couples without conditions.

    • Jake_OO7

      “The city of Sodom was leveled to the ground because of the perverse sexual acts of the people living there.”

      Please prove that this actually happened. Cricket, Cricket…

      • This Charming Man

        You don’t have to prove it.  

        Bible scholars don’t even agree that story had anything to do with homosexuality.

        And if they don’t agree, then how is it anyone can be so certain that’s what the lesson is about ?
        You’d think people that are serious would think to ask what exactly ARE the other interpretations of the story.

    • Anonymous

       I figure that’s between the Homosexuals and God because it’s none of my business or yours unless you are filling in for God!

      • Anonymous

        > unless you PRESUME  to be filling in for God!

        Exactly.

        And other than undoing how God created some, just what does one who says: 
        “The question that is really being asked is do you think homosexuality is acceptable behavior?” … plan to do about the problem of homosexuality ?
        Stone them ?

        I’d only be able to sincerely suggest that ignoring it, like so many conservatives do all of Romney’s flip-flops, bad math and lies might put their narrow minds at ease. 

        Vote YES.
        It is about equal rights under the law , your own liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

        BTW : NY appeals court nixes Defense of Marriage Act, again.

        “A federal appeals court in Manhattan has become the second in the nation to strike down the Defense of Marriage Act as unconstitutional.”

        http://www.timesunion.com/news/us/article/NY-appeals-court-nixes-Defense-of-Marriage-Act-3960117.php#ixzz29fS3vosS

        • Anonymous

          Yeah. It’s going to the SCotUS soon and equality will win. The result of November’s vote is irrelevant.

          • ptkitty

            Rep. Stacey Fitts…you are Toast on your next election.  If you can change your mind about gay marriage, voters can change their minds about you.  Bub-bye.

    • Anonymous

      and didn’t the dude give his daughter up to be raped in Sodom? Also almost 1,500 animals have been seen practicing homosexuality, so yes it is natural….

      • ptkitty

        She was offered…but not taken.  The Sodomites wanted to have sex with MEN.   Possibly one of the 1500 homosexual animals could have sufficed for them…we are not told.  Perversion knows no limits.

      • Anonymous

        Yep and yep.  Lot offered his daughters to be raped.  Later on, his daughters got him drunk and raped him.  These were the supposedly “moral” people in the bible.

        As for animals, yep.  By definition of natural, something that occurs in nature, homosexuality is natural, regardless of what the anti-gay bigots try to say.  Facts aren’t really their strong suit.

    • Anonymous

      Keep your religious nonsense in your church where it belongs, and keep it OUT of my government. If you want to believe in fairy tales that’s your business. But don’t try to shove it down my throat.

      • Anonymous

        In your mind it may be a fairy tail, but to others, that may not be the case. And who is shoving what down who’s throat?

        • Anonymous

          Read Marine73’s post, and then tell me he’s not trying to force his religious nonsense on everyone else.

          And that’s “tale”, not “tail”. I support the right of gays to marry, but that does not mean I’m interested in any “tail” from them.

    • Anonymous

      We’ve been over your (mis)interpretation ad infinitum.  Sounds like you are defining sin.

    • Anonymous

      “The question that is really being asked is do you think homosexuality is acceptable behavior?”

      Ah, the quintessential uninformed voter. You may want to read the law being proposed.

    • Anonymous

      Do I think homosexuality is acceptable behavior?  Yes, indeed, just like I believe abstinence is acceptable behavior.  I wouldn’t choose to engage in either behavior but it’s ok with me if other people do.  GET OVER IT, Marine.  Semper fi from one to another.

      • Anonymous

        The boy scouts may have a different opinion.
        It seems that the majority of pedophile exposures is now homosexual pedophiles, the liberal media just won’t call it that.
        Did you, or do you, fight to protect the perverted behavior of homosexuals? That’s exactly what it is, and it has nothing to do with anyone’s religion. Sure, it’s been around forever, but now we’re supposed to believe and accept that it’s perfectly normal natural behavior instead of defective perverts? Are you serious?
        You’ll get no hoorah.

        • Anonymous

          What a completely idiotic sentence.  If you really believe that all adult male homosexuals are attracted to children of the same sex, then you must also believe that all adult male heterosexuals are attracted to children of the opposite sex.  Which means we should NEVER have any male school teachers because, after all, their young female students would be AT RISK.  
          Homosexuals attracted to children are pedophiles.  Heterosexuals attracted to children are pedophiles.  Being hetero or homo does not make you a pedophile.  Quit making sensational but ignorant statements. Semper fidelis.

        • Anonymous

          “It seems that the majority of pedophile exposures is now homosexual pedophiles, the liberal media just won’t call it that.”

          Because pedophilia is the attraction of an adult to a child. It is based on age rather than gender. Many pedophiles are married adults with children of their own. Pedophilia is about power and control and is NEVER about love.

          But maybe my explanation is to difficult for some people. So let me simplify if:

          Pedophilia = having power and control over your victim, a child and is never about love.

          Homosexuality = a physical attraction to an adult member of the same sex which may lead to a physical relationship.

          Heterosexuality = a physical attraction to an adult member of the opposite sex which may lead to a physical relationship.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t think he’s going to understand.  I think you used too many big words…

          • Anonymous

            The difference is that you choose to separate a full time homosexual from a part time homosexual, as in the married adults that occasionally have a male to male fling. I choose to simplify it. If you are a male and have ever had male to male sexual contact, well then you’re a homosexual.
            I know the definition of a pedophile. If a pedophile has male to male contact and then goes home to his wife, well then he is a homosexual pedophile, regardless of if he has a wife.

          • Anonymous

            “The difference is that you choose to separate a full time homosexual
            from a part time homosexual, as in the married adults that occasionally
            have a male to male fling.”

            Ah no, that would be the definition of someone who is bisexual Ranger.
            ~~~~~
            “If you are a male and have ever had male to male sexual contact, well then you’re a homosexual.”

            Someone who is attracted to the same sex (i.e. male attracted to a male or a female that is attracted to a female) is by definition a homosexual.
            ~~”~~~
            I know the definition of a pedophile. If a pedophile has male to male
            contact and then goes home to his wife, well then he is a homosexual
            pedophile, regardless of if he has a wife.”

            It’s pretty clear that you do not understand the definition of a pedophile. The attraction is to age of the victim and not the gender. In our society we have both male and female’s who are pedophiles. Unless of course you are one of those folks that believe a adult female that preys on underage boys is a “coming of age experience for the boy and is something to be proud of”. So Ranger are you one of those folks that believes it is a “coming of age experience” when and adult female has sex with an underage boy? And is that an act of pedophilia or an act of heterosexual pedophilia?

          • Anonymous

            Homosexual/Bisexual/transsexual…whatever. All are defective individuals and not worth the time they are demanding.
            Ever been shot at a couple times a week for months at a time JD? Now that’s something to worry about, not some flamer trying to twist everything normal that’s left of this country into what suits their perverted lifestyle.
            Wars are going on, the economy is tanked, people are losing their homes, people don’t know where they are going to find the money for $4 per gallon heating oil and gas, and people in this country are worried about perverts being accepted as normal? This is pathetic.
            That is what I mean about separating one perv from another.

          • Anonymous

            No, the only pathetic one is you.  You obsess over the private lives of people you will never know.  You intrude upon their happiness, probably because you are so miserable yourself that you can’t stand to see anyone else happy.  You get on a computer (invented by a gay man), turn it on to reveal your operating system (made by a company that supports equality), then go to this website (which runs using software from another company that supports equality), to talk baldy about your fellow citizens.  But I understand.  You see your particular brand of bigotry dying out and you realize that you are losing.  Get used to that feeling, because it isn’t going away.

          • Anonymous

            Hmmmm….and what does being  “shot at a couple times a week for months” have to do with the price of tea in china?

            Answer, nothing.

            You don’t have a reasonable response so you throw out unrelated topics and toss in a gay slur for good measure. I wonder how many gays have been “shot at a couple times a week for months” while serving in the military. You may have even shared a foxhole or dugout with a “flamer” and not even have know it.

            Isn’t the Constitution a wonderful thing. It is blind to gender, sexual orientation, race, etc…You remember the Constitution don’t you Ranger? It’s the great equalizer in our country and levels the playing field for all.

          • Anonymous

            Just saying that there are more important things going on in the world that’s all. Maybe people who are worried about the things that I mentioned aren’t so worried about homosexual issues. They are also not so wide spread in the military as the media would like you to think.
            Sure the Constitution is fine in this country, but get yourself to another country, and I promise you that it will never enter your mind once.

          • Anonymous

            You do like smoke and mirrors don’t you ranger?

            I will say this…we shouldn’t have to vote in November for SSM. Really we shouldn’t have to. Now you are thinking why?

            Well civil rights should never be left up to a “popular” vote.

            Actually ranger I think MOST often of the Constitution when I do travel to other countries.

          • Anonymous

            Well JD, when you’re in another country, it does you no good to think about the constitution, because other countries could not care less about it. It’s meaningless. So you need to check your American rights at the border.
            You’re correct, we shouldn’t have to vote on it, we already did. Please don’t compare a behavior to race either, it’s not the same thing.

          • Anonymous

            “We shouldn’t have to vote on it, because voting on someone’s rights is an affront to everything this country is supposed to stand for, and the people against same sex marriage should be ashamed of themselves”

            FTFY

          • Anonymous

            I always get a kick out of reading posts like yours ranger.

            I’m beginning to think your whole “He eats breakfast 300 yards away from 4000 Cubans that are trained to kill him” is right out of a movie. See I cherish the freedoms we have is this country. And I respect those that defend those rights. And when I travel in foreign countries I DO think about those rights because they do mean so much to me. And I appreciate those rights all the more when I don’t have access to them in foreign lands.
            ~~~~~
            “Please don’t compare a behavior to race either, it’s not the same thing.”

            OK ranger…here are the protected classes found in Maine’s Civil Rights Act “race, color, religion, sex,
            ancestry, national origin, physical or mental disability or sexual orientation”. http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/statutes/5/title5sec4684-A.html

            Since you wish to withhold or deny a civil right based on a “behavior” I respectfully propose that we remove any protection based on “religion” which is a choice.

            What do you think ranger….want to trade protected classes?

      • MARINE73

        I doubt you are a Marine, if you were, you’d know that Marines defend GOD first and foremost, before Country and the Corps.  

        • Anonymous

          I doubt you are a Marine who actually saw combat, because, if you did, you wouldn’t be espousing that stupid line of bs and would know what ACTUALLY matters.  

        • Anonymous

          And here I always thought the oath was:

          “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of
          the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will
          bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the
          orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the
          officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform
          Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

    • This Charming Man

      I still have yet to understand how my marriage (or yours, or anybody’s) is affected in any way, shape, or form by permitting ANY gay couple from marrying.

      The people that have such a problem with practicing homosexuality should simply stop doing it, and spare the rest of us their incessant obsession with things that are none of their business or concern.

    • Anonymous

      We don’t live in a theocracy and no one religion is any more or less important then any other religion. We live in a constitutional republic where the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights are the law of the land.

      • MARINE73

        I make no mention of religion in my statements.   I’m only telling you God’s word.  It’s hard for people like yourself to hear the truth, your back is turned against your Creator.  When government is in the business of regulating morality, this nation and this world suffers.  

        • Anonymous

          “When government is in the business of regulating morality, this nation and this world suffers.”

          Really? So we should regulate morality? Then can one assume that you are voting Yes on 1?

    • Millicent

      is it your business what two consenting adults do in their bedroom? 

      Most relationships are not based on sex. They are based on love, trust, caring and understanding. 

      • Anonymous

        Yes it does matter what two consenting adults do in their bedroom, especially if there are children involved or either adult is in a committed relationship already.  I guess you think it’s ok for people to cheat on their spouse as long as both cheaters are consenting?  By the way homosexuals cheat on their lovers too.

        • Anonymous

          Then maybe we should criminalize pre-marital, extra-marital, etc…in Maine.

    • Anonymous

      So you won’t be voting for Mitt Romney eh? Because if you do, you’re compromising your principles and beliefs. Sux huh?

    • Anonymous

       Can we assume that you either are or were in the Marines? If so, did your hatred of persons who are attracted to the same sex have any connection to your military experience? I hope not.

    • Anonymous

       OH, one of those times when I truly wish for a DISLIKE button!

  • kcjonez

    “As a Republican, I value personal responsibility and believe that the family is the foundation of our community. That’s why I support the freedom to marry for all, loving committed couples in Maine,”

    Not to mention the entire platform of of keeping ‘big gubmint’ out of our lives rings kind of hypocritical otherwise.

  • Joe

    Real Shocker, huh?  Another RINO shows its true colors.

    • Anonymous

      Note that this is not Great Britain or any other parliamentary system.   I respect those who do not necessarily toe the Party Line especially when it’s hypocritical or counterproductive.  Looks like one could make a lot of money selling “RINO and proud of it” buttons and bumper stickers.

    • Anonymous

      So you won’t be voting for Mitt Romney eh? Because if you do, you’re compromising your principles and beliefs. Sux huh?

  • Anonymous

    Then Steve Abbott and other R’s must be true Democrats, so they should re-register by election time to be in the right party.  The statements do not correlate with the Republican Party principles, but then again Steve is adeamantly pro-abortion, as are his mentor Susan Collins and her colleague Olympia Snowe.  Both of these positions are anti-family and anyone with any common sense would undestand that.

    • Anonymous

      You mean the principles of government not telling you what is right and what they think is natural, but letting the person decided themselves?

    • Anonymous

      Yes, republicans believe in keeping government out of personal business, except in your bedroom.

    • Anonymous

      See my other reply against slavish, blindered toeing the Party Line.

    • Anonymous

      There’s a difference between being “pro-abortion” and believing the decision to get an abortion should be left to the woman and her doctor.

    • Anonymous

      So you won’t be voting for Mitt Romney eh?
      Because if you do, you’re compromising your principles and beliefs. Sux huh?

  • Anonymous

    Marriage is a fundamental institution indeed.   And should be available to all couples who choose to marry. Wise move by Abbott and other dissenters.

  • Anonymous

    I put my God before my political party.  I will be voting NO on1

    • Anonymous

      So you won’t be voting for Mitt Romney eh? Because if you do, you’re compromising your principles and beliefs. Sux huh?

      • Anonymous

        Uhh what makes you think I’m not Mormon too?

        • Anonymous

          Mitt supports gay marriage.
          It’s his latest flip flop.
          So, being a true Mormon or true to some other religion that is against gay civil marriage would preclude you from voting for Mitt Romney.
          Sux huh?

          • Anonymous

            As I said I will put my God before my politics.  I didn’t say I wouldn’t have voted for Steve Abbot, but he wrong on this issue and I am still voting No on 1.

          • Anonymous

            “my God”

            Do you eschew monotheism?

        • Anonymous

          Um, because you seem smarter than that?

    • Anonymous

      Your God.  Not necessarily our God.

      • Anonymous

        I believe in the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

      • Anonymous

        God loves us more than we love ourselves.  Good morality makes for good medicine., both physical and mental.  Gay people have more physical and mental issues.  They don’t report abuse among themselves and they have very risky sexual behavior.  I work very closely with them, so I know about the very poor choices they make.

        • Anonymous

          Well, for what it’s worth, I think you are lying.  I’m gay and I’d like to know what poor choices that i’ve supposedly been making.  Is it that whole monogamous relationship based on mutual interests, understanding, and love that bothers you?

  • Anonymous

    The same type of misguided viewpoint that cost him the Republican nomination in 2010!  There’s room in the Democratic Party for Steve today!

    • Anonymous

      So you won’t be voting for Mitt Romney eh? Because if you do, you’re compromising your principles and beliefs. Sux huh?

  • FrankC

    I’m sure divorce lawyers are all for gay marriage!

    The UK has civil unions .. for all I believe.

  • Anonymous

    The question that I asked before I voted, was, do these people bother me or harm others?  Do they tell me how to live?  Many of us do not understand the Gay and Lesbian lifestyle life.  I personally know many Catholics who will vote  in favor of Gay marriage.  It is not my business what goes on behind the doors of people’s homes.  I voted in favor of Gay Marriage.  It is my hope that Mainers will show some thoughtful and honest compassion for others and vote in favor of Gay Marriage.  just saying.

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