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  • Anonymous

    He will be back on the job in five days or less

    • Anonymous

      It’s been 8 days already.  Or did you mean from now?  If he does, the City and the PD have ZERO integrity.

      • Anonymous

        I meant from today, he will not lose his job he is protected

        • Anonymous

          If everything that was released in this story is true, he has no business in the police business.  Unfortunately with the the pull of Unions today, I wish I could say you were wrong.

          • Anonymous

            Its the only advantage of going to the police academy.  You will always be protected, the unions need to be changed

          • If you are convicted in a court of law, you can be discharged for violating your oath of office, and the Union rep won’t even show up at your discharge hearing.

            You people who think unions protect elementary school teachers who come to school stoned, or cops who get nailed for drinking and driving haven’t a clue. 

            Here’s the thing;

            towns, Cities and other working enviornments are insured by some very hard-nosed underwriters.  The city will not take the chance of being sued for allowing a dangerous situation to exist.  When it comes right down to it, the City officials would rather take on the union than take on the insurance companies.

            The unions have learned this, and no longer defend employees who present a danger to other employees or the general public.

          • Anonymous

            Now that is funny, the only thing is i did not laugh at your comment.  Unions do defend there employees

  • Anonymous

    If the allegation is true, I’m glad to see the BPD did the right thing with one of their own. Nice to see unpaid leave for once as well. It only takess one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch.

    • Old Bear

      Just because he is a police officer and made a mistake let take his career away from him. They are human too. Like none of us have done anything wrong before. RIGHT we are all saints WRONG

      • Anonymous

        As usual, i do not agree Mama. We hold police to a higher standard. This is why the entry process is so extensive. This is why they endure greater jail times and fines when they got caught doing something. We need to be able to trust them and these incidents have to be taken more seriously then the smae incident with the general public. If the allegation is true, the city of Bangor was relying on him to protect them. What if he was called on to go to a fight? Could he even get there without endangering others? When he got there could help in the way we rely on him too? No.

        • jerrymyx

           ( your words)…. This is why they endure greater jail times and fines when they got caught doing something…..NOT TRUE! and What if? omg.. give a rest already.    talk about what happened and not what could have, should have, would have, for Gods sake. The man is human, to err is to be human, do you not want human beings on the police force? He is not a plugged in robot, do what I say and not as I do! Life does not work that way. HE will no doubt be his own worse critic!! Pray for him! People need to get OFF their sanctimonious horse!!

          • Anonymous

            You are entitled to your opinion but the fact remain the same.  Typical OUI convictions draw a $500 fine and 90 day license suspension which is the minimum they can receive.  This man will likely get far more than that and possibly jail time.  As he Should.

            Your argument is ridiculous.  HIS JOB is to be ready for whatever happens.  He was sent on calls.  Think the residents expect and deserve a sober officer?  And lets not act like a fight was not likely.  We have a pharmacy robbery a week, bath salters cracked out and running all over the place, SEVERAL fights a day, accidents with people hurt.  ALL of which require an emergency response.  He shouldn’t be driving AT ALL, must less at high speeds.  This is common sense.  Cops get sued routinely for not having adequate training which lead to some sort of undesirable outcome but we can write off drinking and driving on duty as a “human error?”  Of course he’s human I expect more from police and so should you.  If we allow this to go with out serious consequence, are we not lowering a bar which we can not afford to lower? If he can’t be fired for this, what could a cop be fired for?

        • Anonymous

          He’s a cop and should be held to a higher standard.  The same can be said about teachers, lawyers, priests and ‘indian chiefs’.   They are all human and make mistakes, nobody is flawless. I’m not making excuses but I do believe in forgiveness.   Is he to be shunned for life for this one lapse in judgment?  Think about those that have forgiven you in the past. 
             
            

      • Anonymous

        well mama bear, the officer took an oath to protect and serve. not to be intoxicated and carrying a weapon. that would be an accident waiting to happen.

      • Anonymous

         all he needed was a few tokes,chilled out and back to work without any lasting effects

      • Anonymous

        I agree Mama!!!! Every other profession can go to rehab and get the help they need without loosing their career. Police Officers are no different.  Perhaps people who critisize this officer should look at the number of Physicians who work under the influence yet they ALL can agree to rehab, therapy, and frequent drug screening and continue their careers.  For the most past the general public are not even aware YET we place our lives in Physicians hands ALL the time. The only time we become aware is when their licenses are pulled then it makes the media.
        I do think that what he did was wrong HOWEVER, he has yet to be found guilty of any crime BUT lets hang him anyway……because after all the media said he did it!!!!!!!

        • jerrymyx

           back in the day there was (have to say talk) about the finest surgeon in the area, never lost a Patient in surgery! who had alcohol  b 4 he  entered that operation theater!!! loved by many patients who knew of this!

        • Old Bear

          It wasn’t that I was condoning the PO’s behavior, it was more in response to reporting by the BDN and what they choose to publish…..Was someone being bought off?  hmmmmmmm

  • Anonymous

    Seriously dude? Call in sick for gawd sakes.  Or better yet, don’t drive drunk…

    • Davida Willette

      maybe the stress from working on the triple murder case got to him

      • Anonymous

        We all have our stresses in our lives.  We depend on these men to manage their stress and  to weed out their weak.

      • Anonymous

        it said his job was to keep tags on sex offenders not working on murder cases.

        • jerrymyx

          the job of being in charge of sex offenders would drive any normal human being to drink!!! I can empathize!!!

      • Anonymous

        that and all the sex offender scum bags on a daily basis.

      • According to the story he was not on that case. 

        MANY MANY people have excuses for being drunk (My wife kicked me out, my kid got arrested, I got fired, My mortgage was foreclosed.)  I do not buy that a police officer is under any more stress than many other folks.

        There is no excuse for driving drunk.. None, at all.

  • Anonymous

    I feel bad for the other 80 or 90 policemen who represent the city in a professional manner every day.I’m sure they cringe when these unfortunate events occur.  Police departments are no different than any other facet of society. Some percentage are going to have alcohol issues,drug problems, domestic abuse issues, or divorces. Hopefully officer Tall will get the help he needs. Nobody wins in these situations.

  • Great post.

  • Anonymous

    This shows that police are not above the law. Everyone is accountable.

    • Well not everyone.  Saying times might be changing. Trust me this was or still is the tip of the Iceberge .  I saw a lot of things in my day that never made the paper.

    • Davida Willette

      they are human

      • Anonymous

        Which was my point. They are as fallible as anyone else. 

    • Anonymous

      police officers should be held to a higher standard of moral conduct than the average citizen. he should do his time in jail like everyone else, no free pass

      • Anonymous

        First time offenders in Maine (without aggravating factors i.e. a BAC of .15 percent or more, or traveling 30 m.p.h. or more over the speed limit, or attempting to elude an officer of the law, or having a passenger under 21 years of age) faces no jail time.

        • Right As with most people I agree . I have saw at least 8 to 10 law enforcement officers drive drunk.  They are not better or worse than the average person maybe just a bit less likely to get caught.  Erik made a mistake. Most people have.  I can forgive this but not ones who look the other way when pedophiles for free to molest kids.

      • 1st time offenders are rarely sentenced to jail time.

        • Anonymous

          HIGHER standard than average citizen

  • Anonymous

    No mention of what the influence was… could be a bunch of brews, meds, cold medicine or what. Let’s not rush to lynching. Shouldn’t be driving in any case. Just sayin’.

  • I, in no way, condone Detective Tall’s actions and choice to drive while intoxicated.  I do, however, hope that he does get the proper help for his drinking problem.  As a soon-to-be Substance Abuse Counselor, I have come to realize how much alcohol can affect your life, and those around you.  I am so thankful that Detective Tall didn’t cause harm to anyone or himself when he drove intoxicated.

    • Anonymous

      where did it say he had a drinking problem?

      • Anonymous

        Anyone who drinks and drives has a drinking problem.  Anyone who drives while impaired from any substance, becomes everyone elses problem.

        • Anonymous

          Sounds more like  a driving problem

          • Cheers!

          • Anonymous

            Let me clarify my comment.  Anyone who drives while impaired from any substance becomes everyone elses problem because it is a safety issue, maybe even life or death, for any innocent person(s) that may come in contact with an impaired driver.  Years ago, my 5 yr old daughter was standing on our front lawn and was hit by a car driven by a man who had been drinking and was unable to control his car as he tried to make a turn onto another street.  We lived on a corner lot.  This man was not staggering drunk, but was under the influence.  Thank God my daughter was not seriously hurt.  My point was that people under the influence put other people’s lives in danger.  I didn’t even comment that Mr. Tall was on duty when the incident occurred.  (Based on the article.)  Under the influence – on duty – with a loaded gun.  How safe is that?   

      • He was driving drunk at work…that’s a problem. 

      • Anonymous

        This is taken from The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) published by the American Psychiatric Association provides a common language and standard criteria for the classification of mental disorders. It is used in the United States and in varying degrees around the world, by clinicians, researchers, psychiatric drug regulation agencies, health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and policy makers. The current version is the DSM-IV-TR (fourth edition, text revision). It is organized into a five-part ‘axis’ system, with the first axis incorporating ‘clinical disorders’ and the second covering personality disorders and intellectual disabilities. The remaining axes cover related medical, psychosocial and environmental factors, as well as assessments of functioning for children. (Wikipedia)

        Alcohol Dependence – Diagnostic Code 303.90  (DSM-IV-R )
        A maladaptive pattern of alcohol use, leading to clinically significant impairment or distress, as manifested by three (or more) of the following, occurring at any time in the same 12-month period:
        (1) tolerance, as defined by either of the following:
        (a) a need for markedly increased amounts of alcohol to achieve Intoxication or desired effect
        (b) markedly diminished effect with continued use of the same amount of alcohol
        (2) Withdrawal, as manifested by either of the following:
        (a) the characteristic withdrawal syndrome for alcohol (refer to Criteria A and B of the criteria sets for Withdrawal from alcohol)
        (b) alcohol (or a closely related drug such as valium) is used to relieve or avoid withdrawal symptoms
        (3) alcohol is often used in larger amounts or over a longer period than was intended
        (4) there is a persistent desire or unsuccessful efforts to cut down or control alcohol use
        (5) a great deal of time is spent in activities necessary to obtain alcohol, use alcohol, or recover from its effects
        (6) important social, occupational, or recreational activities are given up or reduced because of alcohol use
        (7) alcohol use is continued despite knowledge of having a persistent or recurrent physical or psychological problem that is likely to have been caused or exacerbated by alcohol (e.g. continued drinking despite recognition that an ulcer was made worse by alcohol consumption)
        Specifiers:

        With Physiological Dependence: evidence of tolerance or withdrawal (i.e., either Item 1 or 2 is present) Without Physiological Dependence: no evidence of tolerance or withdrawal (i.e., neither Item 1 nor 2 is present)

        • Guest

          • Anonymous

            Just trying to insert some factual information instead of innuendo and conjecture. I agree with most of your reply with the exception of
            “but it is also possible for someone who has a few drinks here and there to makes a very poor and irresponsible judgement regarding their ability to drive safely(after they’ve had those few drinks)”. 
            This would hold logic with anyone save someone who was at work and especially a job that most likely has a drug free work policy. You get no pass for drinking on the job, especially when you are entrusted to make life and death decisions. Would you give the same latitude to an airline pilot on a flight you were about to board? How about a surgeon who was about to preform surgery on your child or parent?

          • Briney

            You, and no one else knows exactly what happened in this incident.  Who knows what happened?  He may have stopped in for a quick one and stayed for two?  Just conjecture, and like the rest of the moaning being posted, pure junk.

          • Anonymous

            I am sorry you feel the need to verbally attack people because you do not agree with their commentary and lack the ability to formulate a rational response, just barbed criticism dealt out in monosyllibic wording in staccato burst sentences. Your aspersion  as to where I reside based on my handle because you do not agree with my post lacks or defies logic as related to my post. Are their geographic restrictions on where posting originates in your world?  What a vast capacity for logic you possess, ever think about Jeopardy? How about I never mentioned the man by name, nor even referred to him in general in that particular post, nor any subsequent post. You are the one who personalized it. I was born in Maine, and will die in Maine, that is all you need to know. Your defense of him means you condone drinking and driving, therefore you lack significant ability in the area of reasoning. One should not expect your response to contain any intelligent content. Drinking and driving is stupid and kills people, no matter the reason and who it is. If you can scrape it together to develop a knowledge based response to any of my posts, I will respond to you. Other than that, have a few beers and go for a spin, it’s ok (if it’s quick as opposed to slow) according to you. I just hope there are no deaths needed to prove your theory.The Officer who pulled that guy took a great risk by charging him.  No one has even mentioned that. He drew the line and made a statement.  If the Dectective had any of the courage he fancies himself to have he would resign now.

          • Briney

            Never realized mentioning your pseudonym and citing judicial differences between two states, would have caused such umbrage.   

        • jerrymyx

          give it a rest OK

          • Anonymous

            Rationalization of nonsense and a potentially fatal activity by someone sworn to “protect and serve” does deserve a rest. I worked in a law enforcement environment in the mental health field for my entire career. When dealing with criminals, you need to bring your “A” game, nothing else will suffice. Criminals don’t work 8 hour shifts, then go home after “serving” the criminal element. 24/7 we never close is how they roll. They don’t take sick days, inclement weather does not stop them. Crime can occur at any moment. We expect our officers to be drug free and in their right mind , and a “few drinks” while on duty is inexcusable. Hell, we of a certain age grew up watching Joe Friday, Steve McGarret, Kojack and the like being offered drinks on TV, the response was always, “I am on duty, I can’t”,right? If they are having problems there are venues to persue in order to get help at work.  It is a thankless profession for the most part, if you cannot operate in the environment the job brings (which means not drinking on city time and operating city vehicles), you should move on and not be expected to be treated any different than the public at large. It does not have to end in an arrest for OUI.

          • Briney

            Good grief – this is Maine, not North Carolina.  He has yet to get a chance to defend himself of the charge. 

    • Guest

      Doesn’t sound like a drinking problem, sounds like a decision making problem. Had this been anyone but a police officer we wouldn’t see these “get the help he needs” sort of comments. I can’t wait until we see the list of clients from the Zumba studio. Will you say the cops on that list have a “exercise problem”? From what I’ve heard we will be sure to see several the local PD’s finest on that list.

  • Get Charlie on the job! 

    • Old Bear

      Wonder why City Hall never let that story out of the bag. 

    • Old Bear

      Mit

  • We notice that some law enforcement officers lately (not just in Bangor) have NOT been very good examples of the law, which is thought to be the first rule to being an officer.  We see police on their phones, TEXTING, speeding (happens way to much), not yielding to pedestrians on a red right turn,  driving at an unsafe distance,  turning right when a “NO turn on red” sign is present, just to name a few.  If YOU are an officer of the law please please please try to be a good example of the laws on our roadways.  If you MUST text or call, try to pull over.  If you need to speed put your lights on.  We need you to keep us safe, to be good examples for our citizens and for all that to happen your safety needs to come first.  We support our men and women in service!

    • You never know where an officer is going and not all calls require a code three response but they still need to get their quickly which means they will break numerous traffic laws along the way and if you ever listen to a scanner you would also be surprised how often dispatch ask an officer to call in. They do it a lot.

      A lot of times when someone has an officer behind them they slow down to the speed limit when that officer behind them is responding to a call and could care less if you travel a few miles over the posted limit.

      So don’t look for any officer to pull over so he can talk on his phone or mess around on his mobile data terminal because it is not going to happen. They don’t have the time to do so.

      • Guest

        So which example of yours requires getting drunk to assist the public? You seem to insinuate that the Bangor PD always has good reason for breaking the laws they are sworn to uphold. I see it on a regular basis just as the poster above mentioned. When I see them speeding and passing cars on either side just to pull into the Dunkin Donuts parking lot I know there must have been a serious emergency (sarcasm).

        • My comment was a reply to @twitter-23874153:disqus so I could explain to him why officers do break various traffic laws but you seemed to have missed that point.

          And I know for fact you have never seen them doing any of the above just so they can get to DD.

          •  “And I know for fact you have never seen them doing any of the above just so they can get to DD.”

            Hah. You and your claiming to know things for certain. Its comments like these that force me to never take you seriously. Cops speed everywhere, this includes to the doughnut shop.

          • And where is your video proof of them doing so? So many people make the claim but nobody ever has proof other than saying they do. So where is your proof to back up your claim?

            As for where is my proof? As someone that lives in Bangor and does a lot of driving I have never once witnessed any officer speeding and passing other vehicles in both lanes just to get to DD.

          •  I never said I had proof, or evidence. I said I have seen them speed. I understand the difference, pal. I don’t have video’s. I don’t drive around with a camera hoping to record the police breaking their own laws. I really, honestly, have better things to do.

            Ive never personally seen them do such things before turning into Dunkin’s either and nor did I say I had. I dont live in Bangor, but, I have lived there before and I do spend time there on occasion. I have witnessed cops breaking traffic laws, and not while they are zooming off to fight the bad guys, either. Just leisurely rolling through stop signs in residential neighborhoods.

            Have you ever seen a cop speed, or pass someone on the outside shoulder, or zoom into the other lane to skirt around traffic, whether with or without their lights?

          • You typed this: Cops speed everywhere, this includes to the doughnut shop.

            You then claim you do not live in Bangor but you know for fact that cops speed to the doughnut shop. If you do not live in Bangor how do you witness such actions?

            Yes, Officers do speed. They do roll stop signs and they break other traffic laws but when they are doing so you have no clue were they are going or what type of call they might be responding to.

            Being that I live in Bangor I have never seen any Bangor PD officer break any sort of traffic law just so he can arrive at the doughnut shop faster than the rest of us.

            If you are going to state that any sort of Bangor PD officer is doing so you better back it up with evidence but since you cannot you words are pointless.

          • Anonymous

             Boom!

          • Guest

            Well I’ll have to invest into a dash cam to show you that this is true. Seems like a bit much to me. I’ve personally seen a Bangor PD car passing in both lanes on the interstate (while driving about 10 MPH over the speed limit) only to see that same car exit the interstate and pull into the DD on Main Street. You must have some serious connection to the BPD to believe that this couldn’t possibly be true. 

            You must also believe that it can’t possibly be true that this fine detective would be driving under the influence. 

            In the grand scheme of things I think it is far worse for an officer of the law to be driving around under the influence. 

          • Yes, I want video evidence. That is how you backup a claim, you provide evidence. The DD on Main street is a good ways from 395 and even further from 95 so you must have been speeding as well if you where able to keep up with the officer to see him exit and then turn into DD.

            Did you then pull into DD and observe the officers actions? I doubt you did. Said officer could have been responding to a call but you are assuming he was not.

            As for the Detective being drunk? Yup, he was but just because you see an officer breaking traffic laws and then they turn into a DD doesn’t mean they are not responding to a call at said DD.

          • Guest

            I’m not going to follow around cops all day to try to get them on camera breaking the law because I have a job to be at and I don’t have all day to prove you wrong  (but I can spare a few minutes). Just because you think this is such an outlandish possibility take a look at this:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mh8DPfc2KQ

            If you have such a hard time believing that a BPD officer would speed to get to DD  why are we seeing reports of one driving drunk?? Which is the more serious offense? I’m sure that he isn’t the first BPD officer to do this just the most recent one to get caught. These guys break more laws than we know about but just have their own “old boys club” to protect them.

            Although next time I see this abuse of power I’ll be sure to whip out the camera and video tape it. How do you like your crow cooked?

          • You failed to answer my questions and you posted a video that has nothing to do with Bangor PD.

            So yes, get a video next time to prove your point, not post a video from New York.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry I am calling you on this one. Maine Street DD is about as far from the interstate as you can get when there is a DD at Hammond and I395, Union Street, Broadway and Hogan Road. Claiming that you followed them means that you must have been breaking some traffic laws two if the officer was passing cars in both lanes and traveling at 10 mph over the posted speed limit. Tell me, how did you accomplish this feat of following the officer on the interstate, down either I395 or city streets so you could determine where he was going.

          • Right, I dont live in Bangor currently, but I have for many years prior. You dont have to live in a place to see its residents do something, all you have to do is visit the place. I am unsure how you think that my living outside of Bangor invalidates my opinion. Thats a really poor argument to disprove my thoughts.

            Alright, so you admit you’ve seen cops speed, you also admit that its not possible to know their destinations (i understand you have a scanner, but, even with that you still cant know where all of them are going). So how do you know they weren’t going to DD? Have you followed every cop you saw speeding to make sure he didn’t go to DD?

            Did I ever once say I say them do it to get to Dunkins? EVER? Nope. I never made that claim. In fact, incase you missed it “IVE NEVER PERSONALLY SEEN THEM DO SUCH THINGS BEFORE TURNING INTO DUNKIN’S…”

            I was suggesting that cops break traffic laws. I don’t presume to know their destination, therefore, it is POSSIBLE that they might be breaking laws in route to the doughnut shop.

            I dont know for certain that they do. Do you know for certain that they don’t? I could care less about proving they speed into dunkins, as that really isn’t what my argument is about, its about the fact they speed and break their own laws, regardless of where they are going.

            You need to relax, oh so omniscient one.

          • jerrymyx

             Thank you!!!  for your reply Re: getting clean; as you said, I believe you have to experience it to understand it!!! perhaps on another comment board, I will have an opportunity to ask you a few more questions. Good job!!!!

          • Anonymous

            Kevin, i was on Hogan Road the other day.  Traffic running smoothly.  I had a portable scanner in my car with me and no traffic at all.  All of a sudden i heard sirens,(Bangor Police) No call over radio or nothing.  Two minutes later they pulled in to Dunkin Donuts Hogan Road, got out of car.  i watched this and came out with a coffee.  I called the station and told them and they are like no he was on a call there and must have got coffee.  Time for Police to face rules too

          • Do you only listen to a single frequency when you have your scanner going? 

          • Anonymous

            No only frequencies are running and i did call the department to report it, but they denied it like i said.  Its normal for cops to do this to get there in a hurry, just like ambulances.

          • Since it is so normal for both the Bangor PD and FD to do this I suggest you get a dash cam to back up your claim.

          • Anonymous

            Ambulances too? Well Capital Ambulances carry black boxes that record speed, breaking force, lights and siren use and it is reviewed for violation of policy. Not sure about Bangor FD but newer engines built to NFPA standards also record this information as well as seat belt use by seat position. All ambulances will shortly have this also as NFPA has taken over ambulance construction standards for the DOT.

        • Briney

          Was he drunk?  He was charged with OUI.  Yet to be proved.  Give the man a break.

          • Guest

            What do you mean “was he drunk”? They don’t give out OUI’s to people who aren’t impaired at some level. If you are okay with him driving around with a 0.13 BAC then hire him as your personal driver. If you meant he may have been impaired by drugs than that would be even worse in my opinion. 

          • Anonymous

            What Briney was referring to is in out criminal justice system the defendant is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law….not the court of public opinion.

          • Briney

            Ah, ha…thanks for cutting through this soppy drivel.  

            In Iraq, a young girl was raped and then stoned to death by hostile villagers for committing adultery.

            In China, the people’s boss at a factory was publicly executed  for mismanaging the books.

            In Bangor, a police detective was verbally abused after being “charged” – not convicted – for OUI.

          • Anonymous

            So you would prefer the guilty until proven innocent version of justice then? Or better, just skip the whole trial and move onto the sentencing? Or maybe you would “street justice” with roaming groups of people dispensing “justice” as they see fit?

            Which version of justice do you prefer Briney?

          • Briney

            You lost me.  Innocent until proven guilty is my understanding of the law of the land.  This case is no different.

          • Anonymous

            Well I guess I am as lost as you then. My original was supporting you and said exactly that…that in this country you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law….not the court of public opinion.

          • Briney

            My reply to you is the same as to the others, who have a conviction before a trial.  A charge is not a guilty verdict.  

          • Yes, he was drunk. I’m very pro-police but he screwed up big time.

          • Briney

            Your assertion is useless until a judge or jury make their determination.

      • Anonymous

        Of course they have to break traffic laws, you never know when they might run out of sprinkles at Dunkin Dounuts.

        • Do you even know why officers used to hang out at places such as DD?

          • Anonymous

             I’ll bite. Why?

          • It is simple. Not many places stayed open 24 hours. DD did and hence in the late evening and early morning hours officers used to gather there. Has nothing to do with doughnuts, just a place they could gather while they were on-duty and had downtime.

          • Well, there are more then a few 24 hour places out and about now. Why do they still choose to flock to Dunkin’s? Could there perhaps be more to it than convenience?

          • They don’t but because you don’t live in Bangor you would have no clue about their other hang outs.

          • I never see them in Ledbetter’s (where all the crime is)

          • Anonymous

            Now that explains your post, you live in the ghetto

          • Nice Ad hominem bro. The fact that I dont currently live in Bangor is irrelevant. I don’t live in Antarctica either, but I know what Penguins look like.

            Fail more.

          • Anonymous

            The only way you would know if they are at DD’s is that you are there too, so get a life and stop spending so much time there yourself.

          • I’m sorry, I forgot I could drive by and see something happening. I thought I had to sit there. Guess your right, guess I should get a life. Thanks, fellow person wasting their time on the BDN comment section, for telling me how to effectively manage mine.

            Grow up kid.

          • Anonymous

            Maybe they should be out doing their jobs instead of gathering at DD.

          • Anonymous

            Every employee is entitled to breaks.

          • Anonymous

            They will arrest you someday and all the kissing up won’t keep it out of the paper.

          • Anonymous

            I wouldn’t call that kissing up, it is the truth, same as firefighters. Fires don’t start, and laws aren’t broken, accidents don’t happen… around lunch/coffee breaks.

          • Anonymous

            “They will arrest” me someday push? Really?

          • jerrymyx

             in other words, you do NOT want this police officer to have his gun ready and available at all times????  break or no break, I agree what he did was the proper thing to do!!

          • Believe it or not, there are police forces in the world where guns are an accessary not part of the cop’s body.

            Polling places are no place for armed represenatives of a sitting government.

          • Anonymous

            And believe it or not there are some countries in the world that don’t allowed or greatly limit the private ownership of firearms too and those countries have both local, provincial and national police departments that carry “guns” as “part of the cop’s body” too.

          • Actually Police officers (and paid firefighters) are exempted from most labor protections.

          • Anonymous

            Do you recall a story in the BDN last year I believe it was about a Bangor officer attempting to vote at the auditorium while on his break and the Election Warden (or what ever the person was called) would not let him vote because it was “illegal” to bring a firearm into a voting place. The Election Warden said that since the officer was on his break and not at the polling place on “official business” he could not vote unless he surrendered his weapon to the Election Warden.

            Sgt Edwards stated that the officer was on his break and that he would vote if he wanted to while on break. In fact, Sgt Edwards or the Chief said it was a long standing practice to allow on-duty officers to vote during their breaks.

          • Yes, but the argument that allowed the officer to bring his gun to a polling place (an action restricted by law to regular citizens) was that a police officer is always on duty.  Guess that means a break isn’ a break, except when the officer finds it is a break..  Other employees get REGULAR breaks at scheduled times.

          • Anonymous

            The fact is and was the officer was on his break. That was confirmed by Sgt Edwards comments and the then police chief stating that it was long standing policy to allow an officer to vote during their break.

            I myself would NEVER surrender my firearm to anyone if I were in uniform. Can that officers break end immediately? Yes, in can and sometimes does.

            And I don’t know who you work for but my breaks are at the convenience of my employer.

          • “That was confirmed by Sgt Edwards”    That is a non-bias source.

            I get it you are a police defender under any and all circumstances. 

          • Anonymous

            Tux not at all. I have certainly criticized where criticism is due. But police officers are due breaks just like many other employees are. I am willing to bet that if you reviewed the collective bargaining agreement you would find language in the contract that spells out breaks.

            And for the record I don’t believe I said that Sgt Edwards was un-biased. But that doesn’t changed facts.

          • Anonymous

            blah….blah….blah

          • Anonymous

            Right, because they do not get a designated lunch hour and 2 scheduled 15 min breaks a shift like most people. They take a break when they can get it. I have seen many cops get to a place to grab a meal and have to scoot because call come through, paying and leaving their meals behind.

            It is too bad that this officer’s problem had gotten to this.  Just a guess, but maybe if the outgoing Police Chief had paid a little more attention to his employees, he may have noticed a change and had the officer get help before it got out of control.

          • Yeah kev, I never saw a cop eat a doughnut….  and when I was a teenager I bought Playboy only to read the scholarly articles.

        • Anonymous

          First off this is merely an old joke that some still hold on to even though it’s no longer funny. Secondly yes some officers are overweight but that goes for our entire country. Being you’re quite the jokester I think it would be amusing to see you grab ahold of the majority of officers out there seeing how they are very physically fit. But anyways good joke.. let me guess you’re also the one who says “oh i didn’t do it” if an officer walks in the room?

      • Funny I have been stopped for 5 mph over lol  How would we know if the officer could care less if we were a couple miles over?  

      • Yeah the liquor store closes in 5 minutes.

  • Anonymous

    Was he over 65? According to Summers, those are the only problems on the road, over 65, so the detetive must be over 65.

  • Anonymous

    throw the book at him… i hope it was a high level.  go to jail eat crappy food lose your license, job, pay high insurance, fail DEEP (cause no one ever passes) go to 12 counceling sessions, bum rides to get there and best of all have that star on your licence

    • Anonymous

       What do you mean nobody ever passes DEEP? Pay attention! Or better yet, don’t drink and drive!

  • Anonymous

    about time BPD did something right.  I think there department needs to reviewed. Some think they are above the law..   Maybe Betsy Webb and help investigate.

  • Old Bear

    Maybe Charlie can investigate HUMMM. I wish city hall would tell the untold story that happened in 2007!!!!! Maybe Erik Tall could tell us. I am sure he knows the answer’s to the puzzle.

    • HowdyNeighbor

      What untold story? Do tell!!

      • Old Bear

        City Hall should tell the story.

        • Anonymous

          I think you should tell since you brought it up.

          • Anonymous

            close to home jd?

          • Anonymous

             jd, people know there has been a lot of covering up in this city. It would be nice if you’d help with the exposure instead of berating the truthtellers.  It will come out sometime, it always does. Why not today before more damage is done to keep the lies?

          • That’s gonna happen….

            You don’t get those positions unles you are a confirmed liar, and a “team player”

          • Anonymous

            Then how come your not a police officer then

          • Anonymous

            lets I am not “berating” anyone.

      • Old Bear

        City Hall should tell the story!!! Maybe BDN can investigate that one and publish the 2007 incident, than we all will know or maybe we can contact Dateline to investigate.

  • Old Bear

    Hopefully Glenn Ross is not investigating this one..

    • Anonymous

      If it is not the SP it probably is PSO, Glenn must be getting his jollies in doing so.

  • Until you know the whole story, how can you have an intelligent opinion? Hearsay is not a fact. More people should judge on how they would want to be judged.
    A LOT of people have been OUI without getting caught at least once in their life. If you’re one of them, and you are judging Mr. Tall, you are in denial, and that aint a river in Egypt

  • Roy Blenkhorn

    Wow bubba… how this happen?? far too many times have I seen you at raenas.. lit right up and then you think nothing to jump in your vehicle and take off….. just a matter of time until it comes around.

    •  Raenas? Classy Cops are Classy.

  • Anonymous

    Erik is no different than anyone else. We are all human and we make mistakes. He made a huge one but I still think about all the years he has served the city. Perhaps the stress that the Chief caused down there for the past few years and so much overtime they had to work to protect us all finally took it’s toll. We need to remember he has a family and they don’t deserve to read such unkind things about the loved one. Pray he gets the help he needs

    • Anonymous

      He was adequately compensated for his “all the years he served the city”.  The blue wall will make sure he gets off with little or no repercussions, unlike a common citizen would.

  • Anonymous

    I guess most of us never have had any transgressions according to the comments. If somebody has the standards by which God has handed down as the correct code of morality, please forward them to me.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t judge someone just because you hear something.  Wait till you hear the whole true story.   I don’t agree with the ones of the BPD that do drive under the influence.  I’ve even seen some of the state troopers leaving barnabys after drinking under the influence.  Just because they wear the uniform doesn’t mean they have more priveledges than any of normal person.   Stay strong Bubba, and keep your chin up!!

  • Anonymous

    Now we know why Carlson roamed the street at will, the sex offender cop was drunk.

    • Anonymous

      It’s so creepy you say that, I was thinking the same thing. Things that make you go, “Hmmm.”

  • Anonymous

    Who wouldn’t want to be drunk after keeping tabs on 200 sex perverts.

    • Anonymous

      Very true, but do it off hours.  

    • Randall Flagg

       check out familywatchdog.us

      its more than that…and they’re all around the childrens museum…big surprise

  • Anonymous

    A message of ZERO TOLERANCE needs to be sent ALL Police Depts(and positions of power) that they ARE to be held at a higher standard because of their jobs. This is the second officer in a matter of months to be charged with O.U.I.  What a slap in the face to all the families whom have lost a loved one to drunk driving accidents that this sorta behavior is happening with the very people that are suspose to PROTECT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • jerrymyx

      that they ARE to be held at a higher standard because of their jobs……………………………………… Why, because YOU said so???

      • Anonymous

        I’m entitled to my opinion and if you don’t think that they should be held to a higher standard then thats your choice “If you believe it”  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Anonymous

          Yes they should, anyone who has the right to take away you freedoms should be held to a high standard and near perfect while on the job.

      • Anonymous

        Because I said so! 

  • jerrymyx

    nor is going through life,  using childish name calling!!!! on a comment board!! ignorance is bliss!! feeling superior are ya?

    • Anonymous

      Lighten up, Francis!  Didn’t you ever see ‘Animal House’?  Are you CUI (Commenting Under the Influence) again?

  • Anonymous

    Whale farts… I do believe that your the dumb one. He’s no more than a many who made some mistakes..

  • HowdyNeighbor

    So who’s watching the sex offenders now?!?!?! Nobody???

    • Who cares, with all the sex offenders out doing their thing lately, he wasn’t even making a dent.

  • Old Bear

    Why is it that an individual at the City of Bangor was caught with having child pornography on the City’s computer and the individual lost their job over it and it never got published in the BDN? But the above incident gets published in the BDN.  Apparently, alcoholism takes presidence over Child Pornography?  Hopefully the BDN is not condoning the behavior of child pronography?

    • Anonymous

      And that person or their former position was? Was this something someone told you or you know this first hand?

      • Jd you always go by “facts” . I know you know things you have been around but you never seem to share . Just what is public knowledge. Yes rules are bent for some but even if you see it with your own eyes if it is not in the paper it must not be true.  Some times rumors might have helped let say someone was molested by Carson not true rill its in the paper ,

        • Anonymous

          jd job is to protect the elite from being exposed. he thinks it will protect him and he will enter heaven as the lamb of god.

          • Anonymous

            Not even close push…when people make affirmative statements like Mama Bear did above without providing ANY proof or source I ask questions. Sorry it you like to take rumor and innuendo as fact without proof.

        • Anonymous

          Well as you brought up Carlson lets go down that road for a moment. Two Bangor officers, one Penobscot County Deputy, one “therapist” and one university president knew about Carlson and did what with that information? Nothing…they did absolutely nothing with the information they have. In effect they enabled Carlson to continue his abuse for I don’t know how many years.

          Now we have Mama Bear who claims that someone within city government had kiddie porn on a city owned computer. She claims they were fired rather than
          prosecuted under federal and state law. So she has this information and does what with it? Posts it on the BDN comment section to what end? If the information she has is true she has a moral and ethical responsibility to give this information to the authorities. If she doesn’t and the information is true she is no better than the person with the kiddie porn on their city owned computer.

      • Old Bear

        Everybody in the city hall knew about it. Just ask around city hall someone will miss up and say what happened.

        • Anonymous

          You didn’t answer either question Mama….and that person or former position was? Was this something someone told you or do you know this first hand?

  • Anonymous

     WILL HIS PERMIT TO CARRY FIREARMS BE REVOKED IF CONVICTED?

    • Anonymous

      probably not.

  • Anonymous

    Two sets of laws. One for them, one for us.

    • Anonymous

      And the two sets would be what here?

      • Anonymous

        You know what it means. If a construction worker got caught for OUI all the details would be released without 2 week of investigations..
        Don’t worry, I believe he is a good Officer and should remain on the job. everyone makes mistakes.

        • My experience Working with law enforcement (not in Maine) is that this type of behavior only becomes public when the officer has proven he can not be talked, counseled, or threatened into coming to work sober.

          Unfortunately law enforcement has a very high rate of alcoholism among it’s employees…

          I might even assume (again from experience) that officer Tall had a “desk job” because the administration didn’t trust him with a car.

          • Anonymous

            Wrong again, he was out on patrol also

          • jerrymyx

             assuming….is not a fact!!! your comment is ridiculous!!!!! as to if and why he had a desk job..YOU KNOW THIS HOW? 

  • Anonymous

    do you think this was the first time he was drunk on duty or behind the wheel? i suppose there’s a limit to professional courtesy.

  • Anonymous

    If I drank ON the job…….I would be looking for a new job because I would get FIRED ! 

  • Conley Raye

    I’m sure if I had to be in charge of all the child sex offenders and see that many re-offend that it would be very depressing and he has done it for many years. I have never thought that one should lose his job because he had one to many. I do think it would be best to go into rehab not jail for the first time offender. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance and with education, it should cure it. But this means for all, no exceptions, period. 

    • Or work on the Carlson case knowing  if he would have push it he would have been railroaded out of a job. People in power get away with a lot.  Some of it is just sick.  More than Just the 2 Bangor cops knew about Carlson trust me on this. If this was just one OUI please let this man keep his job .  But also make him be punished. Erik you made a mistake does not mean you are a bad cop.  

    • Anonymous

      He was drinking on the job. Now he’s on
      vacation.

      • Anonymous

         Plenty of time to drink on vacation.
        Upta camp, chummy.

  • This Buds for YOU!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I certainly don’t condone drunk driving, especially when it’s a police officer behind the wheel, but some of these comments seem a little ridiculous.  We do have the right to hold the cops to a higher standard.  Sometimes our lives depend on them.  Personally, I appreciate being able to dial 911 knowing that a police officer will be dispatched right away.  I could never (and wouldn’t want to) walk a mile in their shoes so the last thing I’m going to spout off about is silly comments about seeing them at Dunkin Donuts.  For those of you who are willing to risk being shot at, stabbed, spit on and punched, please do try a career in law enforcement.  Otherwise, your negative opinion has a hollow ring to it.

    • Anonymous

      hopefully, when you dial 911 in a life threatening situation, the officer doesn’t show up drunk.

  •  bath salts

    • Anonymous

       neck tatoo

  • Anonymous

    Another Maine cop drunk on duty? Say it ain’t so! At least this guy get a vacation out of it. Funny how it takes, “a couple of weeks”, to determine if these cops were drunk or not when a routine OUI field test is enough for the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    What does the Bangor City Mayor think about a public servant drinking and driving.. Not a peep.

    • Anonymous

      Because he is a) only accused and b) it is a personnel matter.

  • Briney

    Talk about overplay?  Lead story on Page One?  Even though the alleged incident occurred last week – sometime?  The headline was two columns short of the one that announced capture of the two murderers in our  triple homicide.

    It’s even worse  to read  the unmerciful hangman cackle that leaks out of the mouths of these commentators.   

    Why so much prejudice?   What a lousy put down for a good  police officer. 

    Even though his case has not been heard, he’s given lead story billing and denounced as though he’d shot an unarmed citizen in the back.

    I recall reading about this officer in many cases.  Most recently, he was inside a Rite Aid, when a robber held up a pharmacist and took off.   This is the same man, Det. Eric Tall, who gave chase and captured the thief, even though he was wearing his off duty flip-flops.

    That great little story ended up in the BDN’s Police Blotter.    

    After reading all, it might help some of these judges to take a nip once in a while. Loosen up.

  • Anonymous

    After listening to the scanner traffic in the Bangor area for the last couple of days, I have a whole new respect for the law enforcement officers… bummer that this guy, who is only human, cracked!

  • Randall Flagg

    He will most likely get a suspended sentence and readmitted to the police force afterwards.

  • Guest

    If the guys got an alcohol problem…..hook him up with some help.

    • Anonymous

       Hope House is there for you.
      Probably see some familiar faces.

  • Anonymous

    Looking at these comments and mostly people want him convicted now, he is bad, he is horrible and blah, blah, blah. He made a mistake and if you think he is not suffering the personal consequences of what he may or may not ahve done// Think about it. This was this man’s entire career, 15 yrs in Bangor dealing with scum, for the most part. I am not saying that if he was drunk or drinking, that is right in any way, but right now it is alledged and let the law run its course here. How many people in life are accused of this and do not get their entire life put in print, get their name broadcast on TV and Radio because they did or alledgidly this. If it turns out he did do this, then he needs to get help to understand and correct this problem if it is a problem. Think od his family here for a minute, if he has children and all. I am sure being a police officer in the city of Bangor and dealing with what he has delt with, putting his life on the line daily, not knowing if you knock on a door or pull over a car, there is not a gun waiting to have the trigger pulled and meant for you.
    Again, I am not condoning what he is alledged to have done, but please have a little compassion for the man and his family and pray, if he did do this, he gets the help he needs!

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, this problem of police officers drinking on duty is not just a local problem.  It is occuring all around the nation.  There have been four different incidents in Connecticut this year alone, one of them involved an officer driving his cruiser into a telephone pole.  Police officers have a very high rate of alcoholism.  Yes, there are treatment plans & counseling available to them just like in any other profession.  The problem is that they are sworn to uphold the law & violating that trust while on duty should be held to a higher standard.  This not only includes not drinking on the job, but obeying every other law as well.  The few officers that feel & act as if they are above the law give those that take the job seriously a bad name, along with causing the public to lose trust in all of them.

  • Anonymous

    Wish I could get drunk on the job. Then again I don’t carry a loaded gun. Or have to enforce Drunk Driving Laws.

  • Anonymous

    no excuses for drinking and driving but,if i had to keep track of those scum for 3 years,i would need a driver so i could drink and point my gun at them through the windshield,drink,drink,bang,bang……..

  • Anonymous

    At least he wasnt a Secret Service Agent for the Pres passed out on the sidewalk.

  • jerrymyx

     assuming….is not a fact!!! your comment is ridiculous…stick to the  facts. NOT what you think you know!!!!

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