Comments for: Pollster: Question 1 support may be inflated; former NFL chief donates to proponents’ group

Posted Oct. 10, 2012, at 11:36 a.m.
Last modified Oct. 10, 2012, at 8:14 p.m.

AUGUSTA | Polls showing support for same-sex marriage could be misleading, a veteran pollster warned Wednesday as he released his own survey showing strong support for Question 1. Also Wednesday, former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue and his family announced they had donated $50,000 to Mainers United for Marriage, the …

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  • seththayer

    too close! 

  • Anonymous

    Better news. The older population and the counties like Washington & Aroostook- will keep this at bay again- at least for now. No on 1

    • Anonymous

      Don’t speak for others.  

      • Anonymous

        I’m not. But in exactly 27 days the State of Maine is going to speak for itself, and you are all going to learn that we are a God loving, God fearing state who won’t tolerate gays making a mockery of marriage. 
        For now I believe I am done here. Have a great day.

        • Anonymous

          If Maine is a “God loving, God fearing state” as you state, when will premarital sex, divorce, adultery, couples living together, etc….be outlawed?

          • This Charming Man

            Never.  Because they don’t care about those issue, it’s all about ignoring your own home and blaming someone else’s family for your problems.

          • Anonymous

            Not because they don’t care, but because it might actually impact their life.  It’s much easier to discriminate against gay people to feel “Christian” than to actually live like Christians.

          • Anonymous

             The God I know doesn’t inspire fear but love.Yes on One!

        • Anonymous

          Stop w/the God this, God that.  Did you ever stop to think that maybe He, Himself, might be gay?  That would be the epitome of justice for you narrow-minded ones who think they should be doing His job.

          • Anonymous

             Ask Archie Bunker when he met Sammy Davis Jr. as God.

        • Anonymous

           If god is so wonderful, why should you fear him/her?

          • Anonymous

            yesihave fears him/her cnn, because maybe he/she knows what god thinks of bigots.

        • Maine is far from a god loving and god fearing state. Not everyone subscribes to your fairy tale.

          • Anonymous

             ME is the least religious state in the country and religion is going under.The fastest group in terms of growth are the “Nones”for lack of a better term,and the fastest growing subgroup of that is under 30.We’ll be fine as soon as all the racist/sexist old people die.

        • Anonymous

          So, should people with tattoos not be allowed to marry? Also forbidden by the Bible. Same with anybody who eats dairy with beef ( cheeseburgers?), lobsters, clams, and shrimp, and any clothing made from two types of cloth. All found in Leviticus. All just as bad, in Scripture, as homosexual sex acts.

          If you have ever done any of these things, in God’s eyes, you are as wrong as if you had gay sex. Says so right in Leviticus. Read the whole thing sometime.

          Puzzling, isn’t it?

    • Millicent

      why should we vote no on 1 ?

      • Anonymous

        the yin and the yang

        positive and negative

        the sun and the moon

        the dark and the light

        male and female

        and over 10,000 years of human history where there has been not one society of homosexuals that have succesfully existed on their own

        marriage (or a lifelong monogomous relationship that naturally produces children and a family unit) is and has been the bedrock of human societal and technological advance

        do what’s natural and most productive…..vote NO on question 1

        • Anonymous

          You forgot one pair in your list…the top and the bottom.

          Also, show me a society consisting entirely of heterosexuals in recorded human history.

        • Anonymous

          You realize we’re voting on legal rights for gay people, not to ban them entirely from existence. You realize a no vote won’t make them all suddenly disappear, right? 

        • Millicent

          the homosexual population is very small – I don’t think you need to worry about the human population going extinct. In addition to that, homosexuals can produce children, perhaps not in the traditional way, but they can still reproduce. 

          What about heterosexuals who get married and don’t reproduce by choice, or can’t reproduce? Do you think we should ban them from getting married?

          • No.  Even though they choose not to have children, if later on they decide too, that option is still there.  If they can’t reproduce, that’s completely different because that is either the way they were born or something that happened during life to prevent this.  Even if it was something during their life that they were not born with, generally it is something outside of their control.  Not so with homosexuality.  I believe that some people choose the homosexual lifestyle for several reasons, one being that they can’t find an opposite sex partner that would accept him or her.  Now most people DO NOT do this, but I believe there are some that would rather be with a same sex partner instead of no one.  I have read some studies that suggest some homosexuals are trying to make up for a lack of  certain relationships in their life.  For example, if a boy grew up without his Dad or very distant from his father, sometimes these boys when they get on their own as men will try to achieve that relationship that should  have been there with the father by having a relationship with another man.  This is not God’s plan for the human race to desire same sex partners.  We were made to be with an opposite sex partner.  God also designed us so that the only natural way to have sexual intercourse and procreate is with an opposite sex partner.

          • Millicent

            nobody chooses to be gay – this is where you are very wrong. There’s plenty of scientific research on that, along with the many species of animals in nature that are also known to choose same-sex partners. As for God, well, I’ll say it again ….. your God is not everyone’s God. You need to remember that. There are other religions, and people of no religion who you share this world with. You need to respect our freedom from religion, as much as those who respect your freedom of religion. There is no religious test in this country. We were founded on that freedom. If you want religion to start making the laws in this country, you’re going to have to change the Constitution, and religious organizations are going to have to start paying taxes. Good luck with that. 

            Changing the laws to allow same-sex couples to marry also leaves in place the laws for churches/religion to continue their beliefs. Nobody will be forced to perform a same-sex marriage, and the only people who’s lives are going to be affected through this law are same-sex couples. 

          • The ironic thing is that the religion many liberals seem to support is Islam.  Well, along with Islam, there is a form of law called Shari’a.  If you have read about Shari’a at all, they are not deciding if homosexuals should get married.  In fact, they aren’t making any decisions about homosexuals’ rights AT ALL because it has already been written into their law that homosexuals WILL die.  That is the only option for homosexuals under Shari’a and Islam. That’s a real tolerant religion, isn’t it?

          • Millicent

            really? Have some proof to that claim? 

            I personally find Islam about as tolerant as Christianity. If you really want to go there. Most religions are not tolerant of much at all, and are the root cause to most problems in society. 

          • Well, actually yes I do have plenty of proof for this claim.  You would to, if you actually took the time to research it. It doesn’t take much.  Just Google ‘Shari’a law homosexuality’ (without the apostrophes, which were added for clarification)  and see what you will find.

            Here is a few articles to begin with.

            http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm

            http://fromtheleft.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/iran-hangs-three-gay-men-for-violating-sharia-law/

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6940061.stm

            If you would like more, I have more, plus there is a video that is on Youtube about Islam. It’s about 8 minutes, but it will tell you three very important things about Islam that you probably never knew.

            http://youtu.be/d8c38_46W5c

          • Millicent

            I apparently wasn’t clear enough. I was asking for proof that us “libruls ” (g) support Islam more than Christianity. 

            “The ironic thing is that the religion many liberals seem to support is Islam.” 

            You also need to look in your own backyard. The bible supports many, many things that are considered immoral. Including slavery, stoning people to death, and being forced to marry your rapist. 

            This liberal doesn’t support any religion. I’m of “an each to their own” – unless it tramples on other human beings rights. 

          • ** I decided this argument doesn’t need to be continued , so please delete this comment **

          • Anonymous

            Don’t judge 2 billion Muslims by what a few say and do.
            Not all Muslims think alike (just as not all Christians, or all Jews, think alike).

          • Anonymous

            Like I said, so you say Muslim Fundamentalists are as hateful as Christian Fundamentalists?

          • Anonymous

             How many Christians stone people to death?  Or behead people?  Or even show support for those practices?

          • Anonymous

            Well, lets just go to Uganda where there is a big push by the Christian community to have homosexual executed.

          • Anonymous

            Many of my ancestors were killed and abused at the hands of Christians. Christians were the slave owners. I have heard many Christians supporting both wars and being glad that innocent Muslim women and children have been killed. They are often the most outspoken war supporters. Radical Christians are no different than radical Muslims.

          • Anonymous

             You need to look up the history of slavery all over the world.  The practice is not associated with any particular religion.

          • Anonymous

            In the United States of America, most slave owners were God fearing Christians. My ancestors died or were assimilated at the hands of Christians. In many parts of the world, Christians had slaves. 

          • This Charming Man

            How ironic that so many religious people seem to support a Christian version of Islamofascism !

          • Anonymous

            Boy, you sure went off on a tangent.
            Okay, I’m a liberal, and I’ll answer your completely irrelevant statement.
            I think we should treat people fairly, so yes, I think we should not be prejudiced against people who are Muslims.  But I don’t “support” Islam — if I thought Islam was right, I would become a Muslim.  But I’m a Christian, because I think Christianity is a better path. 
            I don’t “support” Islam — I support tolerance.  I support the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the 1st Amendment that gives us all equal protection under the law regardless of our religious affiliation.
            And I understand that there are many branches of Islam, just as there are many branches of Christianity.  Not all Muslims think alike, just as not all Christians think alike.  
            There are many different Muslim interpretations of the meaning of Shari’a, and many Musims prefer secular laws to religious laws.
            Don’t judge 2 billion people by what a few say or do.
            Most prejudice against Muslims (like prejudice against Jews) is based on fear and ignorance.
            Likewise, prejudice against gays and lesbians is also based on fear and ignorance.
            And, yes, I’m a straight married guy.

          • Anonymous

            (penzance, just curious, did you see my reply to you earlier? Because you seem like a better person than someone who would leave that hanging.)

          • Anonymous

             Reply about what?  There are lots of comments on this page.  It’s possible I didn’t see it.

          • Anonymous

             Cant’ find it.  Is it on this page or another page?  What is the topic?

          • Anonymous

            You can check replies to your comments on your Disqus dashboard.

          • Anonymous

            Good Gawd, man, did you just land here on earth?   On this planet we have these things called brains.  You may want to stick around for a while to see if you can develop yours further.

          • Anonymous

             If liberals used their brains they would see the lies they have been indoctrinated to believe.

          • Anonymous

            “The ironic thing is that the religion many liberals seem to support is Islam.”

            Well, there’s ONE GREAT BIG FAT RIGHT-WING LIE!  Usually rignt-wing nuts claim we are all “atheists” or “godless Communists.”  Now we’re Muslims?  You forget, the Muslim Fundamentalists are just as right-wing bat-sheet crazy and Christian Fundamentalists.

          • Anonymous

            The problem is the CFs are all over DC with plenty of dark $$. Not the Muslims.

          • Bob Conti

            Back that little quip up.  Did you just pull that out of your backside?  And Islam has different factions within that.  Have you ever even met a Muslim?  I have two working in my office.  They aren’t the crazy-eyed jihadists that you assume they all are.  Yes, no doubt, LGBT people face serious problems with regard to their safety in certain Muslim countries.  But to say that it’s “the religion that many liberals seem to support” is just a load of malarky, plain and simple. 

          • Anonymous

            It’s not just Muslim countries.  Uganda is a predominantly Christian country that is still trying to make homosexuality punishable by death.

          • Anonymous

             Great point.Let’s assume for a moment that someone “chooses” to be gay.You are now at far higher risk of being denied over 1300 basic rights,thrown off a bridge or tied to a tree,
            denied the right to show affection in public…the list is endless.
            I will take issue with your last sentence.Straight people will be affected in the best way by this law-when ME becomes a destination wedding site from all over.NY has already seen $175M since they changed their law.

          • Anonymous

            “You are now at far higher risk of being denied over 1300 basic rights,thrown off a bridge or tied to a tree,”

            But on the other side you got to have effectively unlimited anonymous sex with multiple partners with no strings attached and you don’t even have to worry about getting them pregnant.

          • Anonymous

            As opposed to being heterosexual and having an even greater number of anonymous sex parters and only a marginal chance of getting them pregnant if using birth control.

          • Anonymous

            You might want to check out studies done about how many sexual partners people have had over their lifetimes. The promiscuity of many gay men in particular was a shock to researchers. I know of no equivalent in the heterosexual community to the gay bath houses.

          • Anonymous

            Really?  You’ve never heard of swinger parties.  You’ve never heard of Jersey Shore?  Never watched Maury or any other daytime talk show?

            As for studies of promiscuity, care to cite your sources?  Because there was one done recently that showed that there was not much of a difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/19/gay-men-promiscuous-myth

          • Anonymous

            You really are not kidding are you. LMAO That was SUCH a SCIENTIFIC, unbiased, objective, and accurate study. And in the GUARDIAN no less!!!!!

            (Sarcasm intended.)

          • Anonymous

            1. The guardian refrenced the study, they didn’t conduct the study.
            2. It’s more information than you’ve provided.
            When you provide a link to the unbiased, scientific study that supports your claim, then maybe you would have an arguement. Until then, the only study being refrenced and cited in this conversation is mine.

          • Anonymous

            It’s a survey on a dating sight. LMAO even more. I think they should ask the same question at a sight like “Get It On” or “Adult Friend Finder”. Want to bet what the results will be.

            By the way, here is a source for you….

            http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/promiscuity/

            (I know, the TRUTH hurts.)

          • Anonymous

            “The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative association of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals specializing in the care of infants, children and adolescents in the United States.” – So, I’m still waiting for that unbaised source.

            I know, on the surface you see all the pretty citations and think “Wow!  What a good source!”  Until you actually read those citations.  Most are at least 10 years old.  Ten yeas is a lot of time for things to change, don’t you think?

            The seemingly “damning” piece of evidence is a study conducted in 1978.  No one will deny the gay community was more promiscuous in the 70’s.  But here’s the thing, if you haven’t noticed, we are no longer living in the 70’s

            Also, statements like this:”Promiscuity among lesbians is less extreme, but it is still higher than among heterosexual women.”  Seem to be lacking any citation.

            So, in short, you post an article from a group run by social conservatives with an agenda filled with outdated statistics.  Coincidentaly, the only recent statistics have NOTHING to do with promiscuity, but instead rates of STD’s  It also lacks any comparison to heterosexual’s, so you really can’t say based on this that gay people are more promiscuous that straight people when you have no comparison to straight people.

            In conclusion, still waiting for that “truth”.

          • Anonymous

            9 of the studies were published after year 2000. 1 CDC study was from 2010. But CDC studies,and studies by health professionals and organizations from all over the world just aren’t good enough for you.

            You are the perfect example of why trying to have an intelligent debate with a progressive is useless. First you declare the other side has no facts. When presented with facts you declare the sources are biased or not valid while presenting sources such as surveys from a dating site to support your own position.

          • Anonymous

            Did you even read my reply?  NONE of those recent studes had anything to do with promiscuity. NONE.  The most “recent” study about promiscuity was a SMALL survey in AUSTRAILIA from 2001.  Over 10 years ago.  Guess what, social situations change over time.  I know that may be a shock to you, but it’s true.

            You are the perfect example of why trying to have an intelligent debate with a social conservative is impossible.  First you declare that you have facts.  Then you post outdated statistics that are only marginally related to the topic at hand.  Then, when someone questions the claims you made, you whine about not putting up with your crap. 

          • Anonymous

            I guess you still believe STD’s are caught from toilet seats.

          • Anonymous

            Nope, only that it takes just ONE sexual encounter to get one.

          • Anonymous

             I’m wondering in how many sexual studies,people flat out lie,no matter their orientation.
            Nearly everyone knows someone with the “notch on the bedpost”mentality.I’ve had to work with a few.

          • Anonymous

            The link I provided references 18 sources, serious studies based on real research.

          • Anonymous

            See my other comment about the issues with your “source”.

          • Anonymous

            And you source is …………………………………………………………… A Dating Site. LMAO

          • Anonymous

            And your sourse is………. a social conservative website with outdated statistics about promiscuity. LMAO

          • Anonymous

            http://timrfisher.tripod.com/dgstats.htm

            Here’s another source that does something that your’s didn’t.  It looks at multiple studies that compare the number of partners for both heterosexual men and homosexual men.

            Tell me, how can you say that homosexuals are more promiscuous when your own source doesn’t even mention heterosexuals?

          • Anonymous

            All the studies listed in the blog are over 10 years old. Some over 20.
            The major conclusion reached by the author relied on data going back as far as 1972. And his own conclusions indicate that 18.4 of gay men are highly promiscuous compared to 5.5% of straight men.

          • Anonymous

            Well, you didn’t have a problem with old statistics in your source now did you?

            1. All of these studies still did something that your source never did.  Compare heterosexuals and homosexuals

            2. You must have missed this sentence:
            To make a racial comparison, I note (according to the
            GSS) that among black, never-married, straight men, 31.6% have had 11 or more
            partners in the last five years. Of white, never-married, straight men, the
            statistic is 15.5 %. The difference between black and white men on this measure
            is almost identical to the difference between gay men and unmarried straight men
            (of all races). So, should the church hesitate to ordain black, unmarried
            men?

            And this one:
            That is, 87% of gay men display levels of promiscuity that are parallel to
            those of unmarried straight men.

            So, most gay men are no more promiscuous that straight men. Hmmm, so, if you get to judge the entire gay community based on a small subsection, then I get to judge the entire Christian community based on a small subsection of, oh, lets say, the KKK.  Does that seem fair to you?

          • Anonymous

            Either the older statistics are accurate and open to be used in the debate or they are not. I was using your own argument against you. Seems you want to have it both ways. You get to use old statistics and your opponents do not. I would prefer both sides get to use them while acknowledging that more recent studies may be more relevant to conditions today.

            The majority of the Christian community has no problem denouncing it’s radical fringe and even admitting they exist. However, I doubt that 18.4% of Christians belong to the KKK. I bet it is way under 1%.

          • Guest

            You make it sound like only gay people are promiscuous.
            Wilt Chamberlain was heterosexual… claimed he had sex with over 20 thousand women.
             
            He was a republican.

          • Anonymous

            You might want to check out studies that show the most vocal homophobes tend overwhelmingly to be secretly afraid they are gay, or know so.

            Studies abound, on all sides. My personal observations are that the study I mentioned is pretty accurate.

          • Bob Conti

            Personally, I think Mr. Trickle’s a tich jealous.

          • Anonymous

            Well, only in theory. Most gays don’t engage in anonymous sex with multiple partners any more than heterosexuals do. The numbers would actually be quite higher for heterosexuals.

            And ask yourself, if marriage were not an option for straight men, do you really think they wouldn’t go for the same option?  Please. Many women would too.

             

          • Anonymous

             Same thing applies to heteros who use protection.I love how the argument goes that gays are this wild randy bunch who are like rabbits.Sounds like sexual jealousy from those who aren’t getting their share.Sorry about that.

          • Anonymous

            Marriage is not just about reproduction.  My wife and I have no children, and we’re now past child-bearing age.  Yet our marriage is very meaningful.  Marriage is about love and commitment, loyalty and fidelity, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health.  Gay couples and lesbian couples share the same kind of love and commitment, and ought to have the same freedoms under the law that my wife and I enjoy.

          • I never said it was and I don’t know where you got the idea I ever said it was.  I actually responded to someone and told them marriage wasn’t about reproduction. They had asked if marriages where the couple chose not to reproduce or couldn’t reproduce should be banned?  My response was no and I had several reasons following that.

          • Millicent

            I will give you that. But the reason the poster probably thought that you felt that way, was because you responded to a question that I had asked of another poster – that poster, Jack, still hasn’t responded. 

          • Anonymous

            If you re-read what I posted, you’ll discover that I never claimed anything about what you said.  What I said is what I said.   I was responding to the topic — and made no claims about what you said or didn’t say.

          • Anonymous

            Oh, yes, you did:

            “a lifelong monogomous relationship that naturally produces children”
             

          • since that was JackLakesonXT, 
            instead of me, you might want to be a little more careful next time who you accuse of making statements. I never made any such statement.

          • Anonymous

             May you and yours have many more happy years while supporting your neighbors.

          • Anonymous

            Thanks!
            :-)

          • Anonymous

             YWV (tips cap)

          • Anonymous

            “I have read some studies”

            Yeah, these secret studies that you are ASHAMED to tell us the source, huh?

          • Anonymous

             The same way NOM is ashamed to make their lists public?

          • Anonymous

            I have read some studies that say the most fervent anti-homosexuals are secretly homosexual. My personal observations bear that study out.

            The fact is, nobody knows what God’s plan is, and anybody who says he or she does is delusional. And even if they were correct, we do not make laws in this country based on some notion of God’s plan.

            If we did, anybody who had ever eaten a cheeseburger or a lobster would be in big trouble with God. Read ALL of Leviticus and ask yourself if that should be the basis for lawmaking in this country.

          • Bob Conti

            Honestly, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, do you?  Before I came out, I was dating a woman and it was a foregone conclusion that we were going to get married.  A lot of LGBT folks were married to opposite-sex partners before they became true to who they are.  And tell me, what studies, specifically, are you referring to?  I’ve seen studies that 9 out of 10 dentists recommend sugarless gum to their patients who chew gum.  But I have no idea as to the study’s validity.  And I have always had a great, close relationship with my father.    The bottom line is that the basis for what you’re saying is really a load of horse pucky. 

          • Anonymous

             2 of romney’s strapping sons had “help” conceiving.  One with a surrogate. 

          • Millicent

            and they also signed an agreement that would have allowed the surrogate to terminate her pregnancy if she so wished to do so. 

          • Anonymous

             Thanks for the info.Considering the $Millions the LDS has pumped into the anti equality side,no surprise.

          • Anonymous

             “strapping sons” What does this have to do with the debate??

        • This Charming Man

          How very…  Chinese…

        • Anonymous

          In every society, in every age, there have been gay men and lesbian women.  They have contributed to every society in every age. 
          It’s time to end the prejudice and treat everyone fairly and equally.  Yes on 1.

        • Anonymous

          “a lifelong monogomous relationship that naturally produces children”

          Well, that happens in maybe 5% of all mixed-sex marriages, Jack, what about the other 95% of mixed-sex marriages, why do THEY get those SPECIAL RIGHTS?

        • Anonymous

          Hmmmmm …. homosexuals consist of male and female … there are ways of procreating other than coitus.  Now if you put all females in one area and all males in another area with no way to ever “co-mingle” … then I guess society and humans would cease to exist over time.  But see the human population is made up of approx. 95% of people who are straight and approx 5% who are gay and lesbian so unless somehow those %s were magically reversed and forgot of other ways to procreate, society and humans would see a decrease in population growth but would still continue.
          PS Marriage is not a requirement or a cause of procreation …. the meeting of an egg and a sperm is how that happens.

        • Anonymous

          If you ignore the history of polygamy, even in the bible, and you ignore the Native American’s performing same sex marriage.  But don’t let “facts” or “reality” get in the way…

        • Anonymous

          So, people in their 60’s shouldn’t be allowed to marry, because it’s unnatural.

          By your definition, a gay man and a lesbian can marry, even though they intend to have no children, and intend to have sex with the partners they actually love. But as long as it’s a man and a woman, that’s ok, and will preserve marriage.

          A male and a female pedophile may marry, and that’s preferable to a couple of law-abiding lesbians getting married.

          Murderers may marry, as long as they are different genders, and that’s preferable to law-abiding gay men getting married.

          And heterosexual couples who for whatever reason can’t “naturally” produce children, and who must adopt to have a bigger family, aren’t good enough.

          Puzzling.

      • Anonymous

        Because homosexuality is one of the 4 sins that cries out to heaven for God’s vengeance.  

        • Millicent

          why do you feel it’s necessary to dictate other people’s lives through your own personal religion?

        • Anonymous

          Where did you come up with that one? 
          Is that from 1st Charlatans 13 ?

        • Anonymous

          Modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated relatively recently in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia.  For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1850.  Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now.  About 400-years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the king kissing other men in public. But in revised versions, religious authorities re-defined the Greek word “arsenokoites” of 1Corinthians 6:9!  The most accurate translation, abusers of themselves with mankind [KJV], was pretty vague.  Nevertheless, they replaced this vague 5-worded text with the not so vague and purposely targeted 1-word text, “homosexual(s).” Either way you cut it, this text does not describe homosexuals. This campaign gave those who were looking for a reason to justify their own homophobia a license to openly express their bigotry.
           

      • Anonymous

        We should vote “Yes on 1” for fairness and equal treatment — and because marriage is a good thing.  Marriage promotes conservative family values such as fidelity, family stability and loyalty.  If these things are good for straight couples such as my wife and me, then those values are also good for gay and lesbian couples.  My marriage of 33 years is not threatened by people who want to get married.  Marriage is strengthened, not threatened, by people who want to get married.
        Let adults get married — it strengthens our communities.  Please vote “Yes on 1.”

    • Anonymous

      Here’s the latest poll results :  100% of my household will vote NO on 1 , and anyone else I can squeeze in to my car !

      • Anonymous

          Update to those poll results:  100% of people asked don’t care what you think

        • Mr_Spuddy

           Not 100% . . .

      • Anonymous

        Make sure they’re registered.  Oh, and that’s a requirement for getting a ride?  My way or the walkway?  You must rule your household with an iron fist.

        • Anonymous

          Oh so I see has it is with you, If your entire household is voting yes, that’s cool. but if the entire household is voting no, then you rule your house with an iron fist.    

          • Anonymous

            You can scream at your family all you want, the more you scream, the more sure you can be they will vote YES.

        • Anonymous

          So he thinks, but in the privacy of the voting booth…

      • Anonymous

        Then I guess my household will nullify your household as everyone in my household will be voting Yes on 1

      • Millicent

        why?

      • Anonymous

        It’s too bad you even get to vote on an issue that does not affect you at all.

      • Anonymous

        NOM has already VIOLATED Maine laws AGAIN.  They are cheating.  Are other anti-gays cheating again?

      • Anonymous

        Or at least they told you so you would stop repeating anti-gay hate speech at home.

      • Jake_OO7

        Your so fat, looks like only one vote for you.

    • Anonymous

       Woohoo thank you northern and downeast maine for keeping this state behind the curve! Marriage has never been about love, why should it be now??  YEEEHAWWW

      • Anonymous

         Not to mention said areas are among the poorest and least educated of the state.

    • Anonymous

      Most older people that I have spoken to remember the ban on interacial marraige and equate the gay and lesbian issue with that. it was wrong then and is now. equal rights for all.

      • Anonymous

        not even close to being the same thing

        • seththayer

          why not…that was an issue of two loving and committed people not being allowed to marry.  This is an issue of two loving and committed people not being allowed to marry. Pretty much the same thing from where I sit.

        • Anonymous

          Actually, yeah it is. Discrimination based on no good reason.

    • Anonymous

      Well, I guess I’m one of the “older population” of Washington County, and I’m tired of discrimination.

      I will be enthusiastically voting yes on question 1.

      The times they are a changin’.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, I keep tellin’ my wife the same thing………

    • Mr_Spuddy

       Let’s hope so.  Sad thing is . . . even if it is defeated (again), the proponents will keep bringing it up; they don’t know the meaning of NO.

      • Millicent

        and if it were your rights, would you just lay down and accept it? 

        I know I would keep fighting for my rights. 

        • Anonymous

          thank you for your support, Millicent.

          Yes, we will be back, just like any other Americans, until we get JUSTICE and EQUALITY.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Please tell me why you like seeing gay citizens and their families harmed?

      What gain do you get from it?

  • Anonymous

    Delete…and dump Disqus software

  • Anonymous

    delete

  • Anonymous

    Allowing same-sex marriage does nothing to weaken opposite-sex marriage…. Only you can do that! YES on 1!

    • Anonymous

      I frankly don’t care either way but i recently thought about it like this: Gay marriage is a major Dem platform. I lean more conservative on the issues that directly affect me. Since I don’t care how question 1 goes, I should vote yes to give liberals one less silly point to stand on.

      • Anonymous

        You think the lives of your fellow Mainers who are LGBT are just pawns in a game?  It shows how dangerous the influence of the “Gay Obsessed Party” is.

  • Randall Flagg

    Just like the last time this tried to pass this won’t pass either. I know there are a lot of liberals primarily in southern Maine but the vast majority of people who actually WILL vote and show up to the polls are conservatives on this subject. I am not voting for gay marriage in Maine because even though I tend to be ok with gays and lesbians – I just know what is sure to follow. For those who don’t know what I’m talking about check out fetlife.com and do a search of people in your area.

    I don’t think it will pass vote no.

    • Millicent

      and what exactly is to follow? What has happened in other states that have legalized gay marriage that prove that point?

      As for your link to a BDSM site, do you think that only gay people do this? Have you heard of a little book called “50 Shades of Gray” ? Guess what type of person is mostly purchasing that? Heterosexual females. Married. Housewives…singles, in a relationship etc..

      Why do you search for people you know on a BDSM website?

      • Anonymous

        Because he supports limited government that’s why! lol

      • Randall Flagg

        lol you don’t get my point…there are men who dress up as women on there…its horrifying…

        i never could get that about gay people…who is the mommy or daddy? who is the female? the male in the relationship? i’d rather be a pitcher than a catcher

        • Millicent

          oh noes….not men who dress up as women?! Lawd save us all! 

          Why do you care what other people do in their own bedrooms? 

          ps…

          nobody is asking you to “get” (aka understand) homosexuality – all they’re asking for, is to have the same rights as heterosexual people.

          “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”

          • Anonymous

            “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” Wish that every person in our country would remember this is not a gay/straight issue, not a single/married issue, it is why our forefathers fought for independence. They created a land that was of free choice in life, religion and to stop taxation without representation (remember civics class?). So yes Washington is broken as are most states. Because the conservatives believe only they are right and liberals believe they are right and nothing is getting done. This trickles down to State government also so the peoples work is not getting done. If every gay stopped paying taxes the national debt would be higher still.  So what is wrong with allowing people to choose their lifestyle, partner or whether they have children or not because no matter what it does not dictate into your home how to live. Your personal relationship should be between you and your partner whether your straight or gay. So lets outlaw marriage entirely because with the divorce rate as high as it is among straights then they divorce after 3+ kids and the children are the most affected. I think it is a God given right to be content, supportive and to be loved by another without explanation to their neighbor and they too owe you no explanation for their choice in life to marry an opposite sex or your choice to be with a same-sex partner. Lets also be honest in that marriage is really nothing more than a money pit to the government as you have to pay for licenses, spend unreal amounts of money to the marriage businesses (dresses, rental halls, cakes, etc} and these businesses pay taxes on their profits. So marriage is nothing more than a money game so why should you care if those being married and paying these fees are same-sex or opposite-sex people because it really is not a concern of yours how people choose to live. And for all these God fearing people who call it sin are not all that religious because God says “Judge not lest ye be judged” so who really goes to hell – gays for being gay and straights for judging them … Seems they both could be a sin. This marriage issue is nothing more than equal rights to spend money because truthfully this is only a piece paper based on money to get married and money to dissolve it. Straights stand before God and promise to be married to death but then go to court to get a do-over so what really is the sacred in their relationship ? This is my opinion so don’t bash me because I won’t bash you for your opinion because your life choices are your inevitable right. 

          • Millicent

            I’m not quite sure if you actually meant that reply for me…..I support equal rights for all, nor do I or my husband care what other people do in their own bedrooms as long as it’s among consenting adults, and I will continue to try and help those who are being denied the same rights afforded to you and me. 

        • Anonymous

          There are many women who dress in pants or in athletic wear originally meant for men, and who despise wearing dresses. Oh how horrifying.

          In my marital relationship my husband did the cooking, cleaning, laundry, taking the children to and from school. I did all of the painting, construction, odd jobs around the house, yard work…all traditionally the “male” roles. 

          • Anonymous

            My parents were just the same as that so really there are no rules for who does what in an equal partnership. My parents taught me to be great in either role regardless of my sexuality. 

          • Anonymous

            And I’ll bet that by example they also taught you to be a great human being, aroostook.  Too bad some of these anti-gay marriage people weren’t given parents like yours.

          • Anonymous

            At least he did the cooking and cleaning and such.  My brother in law did NONE of the chores.

            Please tell me you both taught ALL your children ALL the chores.  My Grampa was born in 1879 into a family that did that.  My John can’t cook at all, his mom did him no favor letting him avoid those chores.

          • Anonymous

            All three of my sons cook and clean. They are also great handymen. They learned how to work together with their mates to have a balanced relationship with no assigned gender-specific chores. 

          • Anonymous

            YAAAAY!  I bet my mom set John’s mom right in heaven years ago.  EVERY fight John and I have is in the KITCHEN.  You are going to have some very happy sons with happy families!

            xxoo, CCM

        • Anonymous

          It is YOU who fails to get the point.  Your obsession with this whole subject makes one wonder if you are a Gay Wannabe.   Even the simplest of introductions to Biology 101 teaches that all humans have a degree of latent homosexuality.  Guess yours is too close to the surface for comfort.

          • Anonymous

            While I approve of your message, the whole Kinsey scale does include room on either end of the spectrum. Speaking in absolutes is for sith.

          • Anonymous

            My keen interest in word origins makes me ask how you define “sith.” I know the Scottish Gaelic meaning is peace. Thanks.

          • Anonymous

            Try the first Google result. Or did you already know that and are trying to out-nerd me?

          • Anonymous

            “Out-nerd.” Love it. Old Grandma’s out of the loop, I’m afraid, re. Star Wars. Appreciate your info.

          • Anonymous

            “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
             

        • Anonymous

          If you ever took the time to get to know them you would think differetly i have gay friends an they are great people My Daughter when she was in collage had many gay friends an students that came from other countries that have gay maraige are wounder what the big deal is abut it here life went on in other countries just like its always been

        • Anonymous

           So you’re saying you don’t mind being gay so long as you get to drive?  Duly noted…

          • That is how I read it as well and there are a lot of gay men that are tops only. Not all gay men enjoy receiving anal sex.

          • Anonymous

            And you can bet your bottom dollar that NO gay man is discussing our sex lives HERE!

        • Anonymous

          So you tell us you are afraid of drag queens?  You should watch the movie, “To Wang Fu, Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar” and find out you have GOOD REASON to fear drag queens, any one of them could clean your clock in a FAIR fight.

          As to the private activities in our bedrooms, is that you we see peeking at the window?

      • What is to follow?  Just one example is that the pedophiles are trying to get the same rights as homosexuals because they claim their attraction to children is just another sexual orientation.  This is disgusting.

        In this article, which link appears below, you will also see that there are doctors that agree with them. We MUST stop the slippery slope!!

        http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

        • A silly and useless argument that holds no water, at all.

        • Millicent

          now you are equating homosexuality with pedophiles…..there are many, many heterosexual pedophiles out there too. 

          Pedophiles are abusers, and get their kicks off of children. Children can not consent. Two  adults however, can. 

          Your comparison is apples and coconuts.

          • Anonymous

             Sandusky. Good family man, right? Ugh.

          • Anonymous

            He is married and has children.  Fact.

          • Anonymous

             He is also connected to a gang that yammers ceaselessly about God.Another hallmark of pedophiles.

          • Anonymous

            The FBI says that crime is nearly always committed by a heterosexual married male acquaintance of the family.

        • Anonymous

          And exactly how far has this gone since the article was published in October of 2011?

          And when you dig deeper and deeper you discover that the author of this “article” is actually aa author (WND description not mine) for World Net Daily

          • So, you are saying that there is something wrong with World Net Daily.  Is that correct?  Do you have any proof that they are any less credible than the more left-leaning news media are?

          • Anonymous

            Well let’s see….

            1) Publishing an “article” about 9/11 and in the “article” LoBaido outlined what he regarded as the moral depravity of America in
            general and New York in particular, asking whether, “God (has) raised up Shiite Islam as a sword against America”. When questioned, WND backtracked and said they had published the “opinion” piece without “reviewing it” first.

            2) Perpetuation of the Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories

            3) A libel lawsuit from 2000 that was settled in 2008 where WND admitted that they “misquoted sources”.

            I could go on but the are really nothing more that a regurgitation site where they publish “news” for other sources…some of which are questionable at best.

          • Anonymous

             In other words, they are a lot like the New York Times.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t read the NYT for that very reason.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, that is an impeachable source.

            How about your other “several articles,” is that where you read them?

          • This Charming Man

            Yes, there is.

            And with the people that read that kind of crap and actually believe it.

        • Anonymous

           Your bigotry is apparent — and disgusting.  Shame on you!

      • Another group trying to get their “rights” is polygamists.  They say since homosexuals have been successful in obtaining their rights that their lifestyle is just another sexual orientation. They are questioning why they don’t have the right to marry 3 or 4 people if they love them all.  That’s really the same question homosexuals are bringing up, “Why don’t we have the right to marry who we love?”  Polygamists are really asking the same question with more partners involved.

        • Anonymous

          That is a LIE.  We ALL know the REAL polygamists do NOT want legal marriage.  We all KNOW for a FACT what Warren Jeffs did.  He’s the boss of the Fundamentalist Mormon group who is now in prison for criminal child sexual assault.

          Warren Jeffs pretended to “marry” many barely post-pubescent girls of 12-14.  In the morning, after he had his “fun” with her, he took her to the Welfare office to get her signed up as his “child.”  LEGAL MARRIAGE would have defeated his WELFARE SCAM.

          Thank you SO VERY MUCH for comparing loving, committed, long-term same gender American couples to criminal child sexual assault and welfare fraud.

          Anti-gays routinely try to demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans.  This is why they compare us to Warren Jeffs.

      • Anonymous

        We know why anti-gays seek out such sex websites:

        “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014
         

    • Anonymous

       Oh please educate us…what is “sure to follow” once gay people can obtain a piece of paper saying they love each other?

    • Anonymous

      There is NOTHING “conservative” about voting to VIOLATE the United States Constitution’s guarantee of “Equal Protection Under the Law,” that’s an attempt to SUBVERT the Constitution, not conserve it.

  • Anonymous

    My ENTIRE household will be voting YES on 1!  Homosexuals don’t choose to be gay….it is given to them by God himself.  They just want the same rights as everyone else…whats wrong with that.  Times are changing…deal with it.  It’s going to come sooner or later…might as well be now.

    • I’m going to disagree with that statement.  Homosexuals do CHOOSE the gay lifestyle.  Several recent articles would also disagree with you where ex-gays chose to be straight, found a spouse who accepted them the  way they are, and are happily married.  Some of these ex-gays even have children. In all cases, they are happier with life as heterosexual men and women.

      • Nobody chooses to be gay just as you did not choose to be straight. I don’t know of many people that would choose to be bullied and discriminated against just for the fun of it.

        • Once again, I disagree with you.  I have seen several articles to the contrary where people chose to be gay and then became straight later in life.  I can find some of them if you would like.

          • Anonymous

            So you’re going to believe the select few and rare examples because you like it better than admitting the truth that the vast majority of gay people say they can’t change? I can find some articles that say vaccines cause mental re tardation, but there is no real evidence that that is true. 

          • Anonymous

            “vaccines cause mental re tardation”

            It was Michelle Bachmann who said that, so we all know that’s a lie.

          • Anonymous

             If that were true she must’ve gotten vaccinated twice.She  and Jenny McCarthy have done
            damage beyond belief.

          • Anonymous

            Nobody can become gay, or become straight, but some gay people do pretend to be straight because society (and conservative churches) find it more acceptable when gay people pretend to somehow have been “converted” into being straight.
            Ask yourself a question — assuming you are straight, could you really become gay by choice? Could you stop being sexually attracted to the opposite sex, and actually become sexually attracted to people of the same sex — and not just pretend, but actually change which sex you are attracted to? Could you successfully choose that, and not just pretend?
            Because I’m a straight guy, and I couldn’t actually change my sexual orientation even if you gave me a billion dollars. I suppose I could pretend, but I couldn’t actually change which sex I am attracted to.
            Think about it. You could pretend, but you couldn’t actually change your sexual orientation. Nobody can.

          • Anonymous

            It has been an hour since you posted this offer to produce your articles, Mr. Dunton.  Where are they?

          • It will take a while longer to find them because they all came through on pages that I liked on Facebook.  I should have bookmarked them.  I saw several of them scrolling through the Facebook feeds that the person used to be gay and now he or she is married to an opposite sex partner and is much happier.

          • Anonymous

            We aren’t interested in seeing anti-gay lies you find without any documentation on Facebook.  JUST HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE YOU GIVEN THESE FAKE “EX-GAYS”?????

          • Anonymous

            Thanks for documenting that I was correct, that all you have is right-wing propaganda, Christianist propaganda (go look up Christianist) and YouTube videos.

            Fail.

          • So, tell me what reason you believe that these people would say they are no longer gay.  There is no reason at all for them to make this up.

          • Anonymous

            They are being PAID to do that.  They WORK for anti-gay churches, anti-gay Christianist publishing firms, and so on.  Some actually do fund-raising right online FOR THEMSELVES.

            This isn’t just what I “believe,” it’s what you could see for yourself if you could admit to yourself that “Anti-Gay, Inc.” is BIG BUSINESS. Haven’t YOU donated to some anti-gay group, some “ex-gay” group, some right-wing Christianist political action committee that pretends it’s a “church”?????

          • Anonymous

            Actually, there is plenty of reason for them to make this up.  If they want to be accepted by most evangelical, pentecostal, and/or fundamentalist (and even Roman Catholic) churches, they need to pretend to be straight.  If they are employed by any of those organizations, they need to pretend to be straight.  And if they want to be accepted by their families — and if their families are prejudiced against gays and lesbians — then they need to pretend to be straight.  There’s still a lot of pressure in this country for gays to pretend to be straight.
            But — as I asked you above, could you actually change your sexual orientation, and not just pretend, but actually change which sex you are attracted to?  I’m a straight guy, and I know I can’t change the fact that I am sexually attracted to women, and am not sexually attracted to men.  If you promised me a billion dollars I would still be unable to change my sexual orientation.
            Would you be able to actually change your sexual orientation, or would you just be pretending?
            And if I can’t do it, and if you can’t do it, what makes you think that other people can do it?

          • Anonymous

            “About Newsbusters.org

             the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias.Read more: http://newsbusters.org/about#ixzz28wY1jmlK“Impeachable source.  Why should we believe right-wing paranoia?  LEGITIMATE sources, Mr. Dunton.

          • Anonymous

            WND?  “WorldNetDaily”?  Impeachable source.

          • Anonymous

            “Precious Testimonies

            God
            Stories – Encouraging
            Christian Testimonies!”

            See what I mean about being PAID to make that claim?!?!?!

             

          • Anonymous

            I’m not even going to look at whatever right-wing whacked-out hate speech you found on Youtube.  You got NOTHIN’, Mr. Dunton.

          • Since most of them are Christians since leaving the gay lifestyle, where else do you think they would be allowed to share their testimonies.

          • Anonymous

            Where they are being paid to tell that lie…

          • Its not my fault that your only legitimate source of news is the left-leaning mainstream media.  I like to have my news a little more balanced than that, thanks.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, I understood you only want right-wing Kool-Aid and fear the truth you’d find with the legitimate media.  Sorry if you’re disappointed readers are laughing at your propaganda.

          • Anonymous

            I asked this sometime ago Ray and maybe you missed it so I will ask it again: “Care to post a link the the “Several recent articles” that have lead you to believe that homosexuality is a choice.”

        • Anonymous

           It isn’t for the FUN of it.  It is for the SEX.

          • My partner and I havent had sex in a  month. i have been sick. She has held my hand, rubbed my back, taken care of the chores, and loved me. It has nothing to do with sex. It is about companionship and love. 

        • Anonymous

           My main concern in all of this is the children. No, I’m not being a smart A $ .  Kids find any reason to bully. The few kids I know who live with gay or lesbian couples are put through hell in school by other kids in school. This is really my main concern. I know, if ever legalized, over the years it will be more normal to see schoolmates with gay parents, but I just feel bad for the kids who have to go through it.

          • Anonymous

            And that is a great reason to fight bullying, not to deny children loving homes.

          • My daughters were never bullied for my relationship. Never. They are actually quite popular. I feel bad for any kid that is bullied. i was bullied all my life because I was different even though I didnt come out until I was an adult. 

      • Anonymous

        You’re not being honest. You can’t change being gay, you can surpress your feelings, but they don’t go away. Gays are not happier pretending to be straight — that’s a lie. 

      • Anonymous

        Care to post a link the the “Several recent articles” that have lead you to believe that homosexuality is a choice.

      • Anonymous

         That is  Sooooooo FN funny.

      • Millicent

        have you ever asked any homosexual whether or not they “chose” to be gay? 

        Please site your sources on all of these “ex-homosexuals”. Lets shoot for stuff that’s not religious in nature, as that tends to be biased. 

        • Anonymous

          Even Exodus International, an “ex-gay” group, says that they cannot change sexual orientation.  They can only teach you to suppress your sexual orientation.

      • This Charming Man

        Did you “choose” to be heterosexual ?

        • No.  I didn’t choose to be heterosexual.  That choice was already made for me when I was born.  Yes, I strongly believe that everyone is BORN heterosexual.

          • Anonymous

            How nice for you about your peculiar “beliefs,” Mr. Dunton.  I presume these odd “beliefs” of yours are very convenient in rationalizing all sorts of homophobic feelings.

            But the fact is you are dead wrong.  Gay and lesbian Americans are just as much “born this way” as are mixed-sex couples.

          • Anonymous

            You admit you can’t change your sexual orientation.  That’s progress!
            And I (a straight guy) also know I can’t change my sexual orientation, either.
            But — above — you made the assertion that everyone is born straight.  Let’s examine that ridiculous assertion:
            You must believe that there are men who ARE sexually attracted to women (since you think everyone is straight), and they are NOT sexually attracted to men, but, nonetheless, they choose to have sexual relationships with people they are NOT attracted to, so that they can be rejected by their families, condemned by their churches, get fired from their jobs, get kicked out of their apartments, and get beat up on the street.
            The same, then, would apply to lesbians — they ARE attracted to men, you think, and they are NOT attracted to women, but they enter into sexual relationships with people they are NOT attracted to, in order to be attacked by society and have their rights denied.
            And they claim (falsely, you believe) to actually love and be attracted to their partners, and say (falsely, again you believe) that they can’t become straight.
            How, exactly, does that make sense to you?  What kind of bizzaro world do you live in?

        • Anonymous

          Nature chooses that for us, if you think otherwise, show me a gay couple that can naturally reproduce.

          Not that I have a problem with homosexuality, so put your torches down, I just disagree that it is due to genetics, rather than a choice.  My gay friends all chose to be that way, true story.

          • Anonymous

            LOL, you’re full of it. 

          • Anonymous

            You say that “nature chooses that for us,” meaning that we don’t have a choice.
            Then you argue against yourself, saying “I disagree that it’s due to genetics, rather than a choice.”
            Make up your mind.  Ethier “nature chooses” as you said, or we choose.  You can’t have it both ways.
            The fact is that nature chooses our sexual orientation, we don’t.  It’s not a choice for us what sexual orientation we are.
            I’m straight. I can’t choose to be gay. And a gay person can’t choose to be straight. We are born with our sexual orientation, and it becomes apparent for most people around puberty.

          • Anonymous

            So . . . you are black and white  . . .  no gray areas in your life, huh ?  Sometimes nature chooses to push the “Both A & B” button.  If you feel it necessary to comment, I suggest that you do a little reading.  Any first semester student in the UM Psych. Department’s Abnormal Psy. course will explain it to you.  Suffice it to say that some people can (and will) go either or both ways.  Happens all the time.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, it’s called bisexuality, which is another sexual orientation.

          • Anonymous

            Of course some people are born bisexual, just as some are born gay and some are born straight.
            I was married to, and divorced from, a left-handed woman.  I re-married, and my wife (I don’t want to say second wife, because that implies I’m planning on having a third) is also left-handed.  I’m right-handed.  Are some people naturally ambidextrous?  Most likely.
            Being gay is like being left-handed.  It’s completely natural, even though it is not what the majority of people are.

          • People are not born with Autism per scientific data but chemicals introduced into their system changes them. Who knows what causes homosexuality? Who knows what causes 8 year old girls to get their mensus? Who knows what process evolution is doing? 

          • Anonymous

            Anti-gays are always claiming “their gay friends” repeat anti-gay lies.  I’ve provided documentation that proves sexual orientation is inborn and unchangeable.  Where is YOUR proof?  Would it be the same source from which Mr. Dunton failed to quote?

          • Anonymous

            These are the same kind of people who thirty years ago had one black “friend” that they showed off at parties.

          • Anonymous

            Of course gay people can reproduce. What a silly comment.

          • Anonymous

            I will agree that it is most likely not genetic, but that does not discount a biological cause.  For sexual orientation to be a choice, that would mean that physical attraction would need to be a choice.  I am a gay person and I can tell you that I did not choose my sexual orientation.

      • Anonymous
        • Anonymous

          The only persons who have ever stated publicly they are “ex-gay” have been and are being paid to make that claim one way or another.  The American Psychological Association says no such change is likely.

      • Anonymous

         I actually know 2 people who chose to live in homosexual relationships rather than heterosexual.  1man, 1 woman.  But it does no good to bring up actual examples to progressives because when confronted with such facts they refuse to believe them and just accuse you of lying.

        • Maybe they are bi sexual. I dont enjoy spending intimate times with a man. NOr can I love a man wholly and completely with all of my heart and I tried for many years. I choose to not be a liar. It is against my beliefs. 

      • Please look up the ex gay movement and you will find many of them return to being gay after spending years alone. 
        There are people who experiment and there are people who are bi sexual who can fall in love and be happy with the opposite gender. 
        Look up the leaders of one of the biggest ex gay movements ‘Exodus” the last two have been gay all along. 

  • Millicent

    it’s chilly today, I hope you have heat in your Mother’s basement. 

    • Anonymous

       Most mobile homes are on a slab, and do not have basements.

      • Anonymous

        that comment shows your ignorance

  • Anonymous

    So to be clear you don’t find homosexuals “perverted” but you find the homosexual “lifestyle perverted” is that correct?

    So have you ever in your life EVER practiced sodomy behind closed bedroom doors? And before you answer that please look up the definition of sodomy.

    • Anonymous

      letstry has no dictionary, jd, and as far as he/she is concerned “sodomy” is a landscaping term that has nothing to do with his opinion.

      • Anonymous

         HAHA Thanks for the chuckle.The best humor is usually not far from the truth!YES ON ONE here.

    • Anonymous

      His wife won’t let him.  Why should the gays have all the fun?  That’s why he’s against marriage equality.

  • Anonymous

     ROFL so the actual act of homosexual sex is not perverted in your book…but wanting to get married is???

    Your hypocrisy is making my head hurt.

  • Anonymous

    Tomorrow, next week next month.. Anytime I choose, I can say I’m Gay.. I can turn Gay tomorrow and there is not a darn thing anyone can say to deny me the right to be Gay… But today I’m a Hetrosexual.. Do you understand..See what I mean. You can’t prove if I am or I am not.. But I know for a fact my wife is a woman. 

    Please use logic when voting.

    • Anonymous

      When did you choose to be “straight” push?

    • Anonymous

      Prove it then, prove to us that you are gay for the day.  Go out and have sex with another male and enjoy it.  Then you will convince me that you actually chose to be gay.

    • If being gay was a choice I would have never ‘chosen’ it. But it is what it is and I am what I am and I love my partner with all of my heart. We have a beautiful family with wonderful teenage children who dont drink or do drugs and get good grades. 

  • Washington County

    Don’t call me anymore already voted!!!

  • Anonymous

    I always liked Paul Tagliabue, now I like him even more!

  • I truly feel bad for you and if you have children I feel bad for them as well. How do you live your life with such a closed mind?

  • Millicent

    it has nothing to do with “acceptance” and it has nothing to do with putting bigots in their place. It has to do with civil rights. 

  • Anonymous

    You’re pretty arrogant if you think gay people care what ignorant strangers like you think.

  • Anonymous

    Hey leave us rednecks out of this!

  • Anonymous

    I’m a straight married man who supports marriage — and so I also support the freedom to marry, and will vote “Yes on 1.”
    Marriage is a good thing — it promotes family stability, loyalty, and fidelity.  If these things are good for my wife and I, they’re also good for our gay and lesbian friends, neighbors, and church members.  Marriage is good for society, and so we should encourage people who want to get married. 
    Marriage is not threatened by people who want to get married. 
    I’m for marriage, and so I’ll vote “Yes on 1.”

  • Anonymous

    Funny how all those who are busy calling people “close-minded”, have absolutely no problem bashing those people for their beliefs….

    …”close-minded” indeed.

    • Anonymous

      The REAL bashing here is being done by the anti-gays.  No one has demanded we vote to take away marriage equality from anti-gays.

      • Anonymous

        Just because people don’t want to make gay marriage legal, doesn’t mean they are anti-gay. It means they have their own beliefs.. Do you believe in the freedom to believe in something carrot. I believe you have the right to believe in gay marrage. so that makes me unbias…

        • Anonymous

          It means anti-gays are trying to FORCE their rude, unamerican “beliefs” onto everyone else.  You can still believe that the moon is made of green cheese, for all I care, stop expecting us to do anything but LAUGH at your creepy “belief” that same gender Maine couples should be HURT.

          And spare us that constant anti-gay WHINE that your intended victims are “biased” or “trampling on your beliefs.”  Yes, those remaining Americans who want to HURT us are anti-gay!

      • Anonymous

        You apparently missed the point of my comment. I was referring to the people calling others close-minded….and then going on to bash on them for being religious, or a redneck…or for having a different view from theirs, that is all.

        I am certainly not anti-gay, one of my best friends is gay, and I voted FOR gay marriage the last 2 times it came up. 

        I am not religious, but I am part redneck (well, high-tech redneck….I work on computers, networks, and cars :P), but I am certainly not a bigot.

    • Do you have children?

      • Anonymous

        Do you have God Kevin?  God loves you and he loves Gay people too.

        • Anonymous

          Trying to deny long-term, loving, committed same gender Maine partners the security and protections of legal marriage is ANYTHING but “loving.”

        • I don’t believe in any sort of god as there is zero evidence for one. I was raised with religion though, have been baptized and even became born again at a Harvest Crusade event in Albuquerque, NM. 

          I then grew older, started to look at the facts and truly read the bible. Then started asking more questions, did a lot more reading and started educating myself about this so called god I was raised to believe in.

          What I came to realize is that this so called god is a lot like Santa Claus. He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you are awake and he knows if you have been good or bad and to be honest to think some sort of invisible being is doing all that is a very creepy.

          There is no god, never has been, never will be. God’s are nothing more than manmade creations. There are plenty of god’s you do not believe in that many people worshiped for thousands of years but you think your god is the correct god and everyone else is wrong and everyone that was born before you that worshiped a different god is wrong too.

          There is no god that loves me, there is no devil that controls my actions. I am just a person that was created from stardust and I enjoy each day of life for what it is. This is the only life I have been given and when I die I will once again become part of the universe that created me.

          • Anonymous

            I hope you will read Mark Twain’s “Letters From The Earth.”

          • Anonymous

            I feel very sorry for you. You may have been raised in a Christian home, but obviously never truly felt God in your heart or you would definitely not say the things you do. 
            I can tell you Kevin, that there IS a GOD,  and he loves you. 

          • Anonymous

            I think Kevin would love to see the peer reviewed, scientific study that proves your assertion.

          • There goes a Christian with that random use of all capital letters. Do they teach that at church or something?

            And I will stick with there is no good until I am given evidence of one and your bible is not evidence, at all.

      • Anonymous

        Not sure what it has to do with my comment, but yes I do. 

  • Anonymous

    In the privacy of the voting booth they will vote YES, if for no other reason than all this haranguing anti-gays have been doing.  We are ALL sick and tired of anti-gays screaming!

    • Anonymous

      what?  it’s the gays and supporters who ‘scream’ all the time. 

  • Anonymous

    To suggest gay people are any threat to children is an old lie.  Check with police reports across the country to see who harms or molests children.  It’s often relatives or close friends of the family – many of whom are married with children.

    • Anonymous

      The FBI confirms just that.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t understand why the proponents of “marriage equality” show their bias and not support me being able to have two wives. Is is only “equality” if it fits their definition?

    This message brought to you by the word “rhetorical”.

    • Anonymous

      If you wish to marry two women, do what the group that supports SSM did….go gather the necessary signatures and lets vote on it.

      • Anonymous

         That is my point. I ask the “marriage equality” people if they will support my cause and sign my petition, and the vast majority do not agree with having two wives.

        • Anonymous

          I support same sex marriage, and I would.  If you had a reasonable plan to adapt the current laws to include more than two people, and those two people were consenting to the situation and of legal age, then I wouldn’t have any reason to oppose you.  It may not be the way I want my relationship, but I have no reason to tell you how to live your life.

        • Anonymous

          Tell yeah what…you tell me where to sign your petition and I will sign it. I think it was Ben Franklin that something to the affect that no question is to dangerous to discuss. So where can I find your petition and please, make sure that it is in a form acceptable to Maine’s Secrrtary of State.

    • I am in full support if you want two wives. If you want to support and they are treated fairly and are of consenting age then go for it. 

  • Watch the below video if you want to understand why allowing gay marriage is important to those that love one another.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThzdsnXeE28

  • Anonymous

    I now pronounce you spouse and spouse.
    How long before the term ‘man and wife’ is not p.c and stricken from all ceremony?
    (I’m an ‘uptight’ conservative and I’m voting YES by the way).

    • Anonymous

      One very popular phrase nowadays is “I now pronounce you married for life.”  Mixed-sex couples are choosing it, and many ladies are NOT promising to “obey.”  This is another choice we are all entitled to make.  Thank YOU for choosing to support equality.  You are supporting your own equality as well.

    • Anonymous

       Can I ask,did you always decide to vote yes,or did you reexamine your views?Have you gotten pushback from conservatives or have you had others say they would vote yes as well?

      • Anonymous

        I re-evaluated my perceptions (and misconceptions).
        No pushback, however my conservative friends know me as one who hears a different drum.

        • Anonymous

          That’s great to hear.May there be many more like you!

    • Anonymous

      To be honest, the majority of marriages has been and always will be man and woman, because the majority of people are heterosexual.  Because of that, I don’t think the terms man and wife will be removed from a ceremony, unless the couple wants it removed.  The only place where it would be most likely removed would be from official documents, just so they wouldn’t need to make two different forms for the same thing.

    • It is stricken in many ways like on passport apps because it isnt fair to grandparents or aunts and uncles who are raising children. Father and Mother doesnt apply in those circumstances. In reality many children are raised in non traditional homes. But, I now pronounce you two people who love eachother with all the rights and responsibilities of that love would be ok. 

  • Anonymous

     Strange how the LDS which has one of the strangest sexual practices(polygamy)had their “beliefs”outlawed and are so busy 125 years later trying to deny others their happiness.
    Jealousy?

    • Anonymous

      In the most notorious anti-gay Hate Vote of all, the 2008 California H8te Vote that actually took away the established right LGBT Californians had to legal marriage, we saw that anti-gays cheated to throw the vote.  The federal judge who revoked the H8te Vote had in his possession a letter written by Catholic bishops to Mormon leaders in which they both agreed to violate California campaign finance laws to throw the H8te Vote by making secret, illegal cash and in-kind contributions to the H8te Vote.  The letter serves as proof positive they knew they were breaking the law; the letter itself is an act of criminal collusion.  We know the Mormons made the Hate Videos shown on TV, but they refused to report these in-kind contributions as required by law.  We know Mormons were told by their leaders to make large, secret contributions to the H8te Vote under pain of excommunication, and we know Mormons sent their church members from out of state.  Mormon leaders were required by California law to report these contributions, but they refused.  We know Mormons operated secret, illegal call centers in Idaho and Utah from which they made deceptive calls, because a million Californians reported these deceptive calls where anti-gays claimed a “yes” vote would support marriage equality. 

  • Anonymous

    Colbert said Maine was the “Arkansas of New England.”

    Well, if Question 1 is defeated and same-sex marriage is defeated again…I just might start believing it.

    Oy.  A few less rednecks wouldn’t hurt this state one bit.

    • Anonymous

      what this world needs is a few more rednecks

      • Anonymous

        That’s seems to be the prevailing redneck opinion.

        • This Charming Man

          I know quite a few self identified “Rednecks” in Maine that are voting Yes on 1.

          And they’re proud to do it.

          • Anonymous

            I’m very happy to hear that!

  • Anonymous

    The Democrats will never allow gay marriage in Maine 53% NO  47% YES

    • Anonymous

      No, it’s the “Gay Obsessed Party” that hopes to fool voters into voting against our own best interest and to HURT gay and lesbian Mainers.

    • Anonymous

      Why on earth would you think the vote would land the exact same way? Young people vote in large numbers during presidential years — the vote is likely to end up the opposite of your prediction. 

    • That was a margin of only 30,000 votes. I know myself I have gotten at least 3 more that I didnt have last time. 

  • Tedlick Badkey

    I have to agree with Mr. Murphy… too many religious zealots and ignorant hicks that enjoy knowing they’ve helped harm gay citizens and their families. They get a kick out of voting no.

    I am not optimistic.

    • Anonymous

       Don’t give up now Ted.You’ve been a voice of reason and support for real Mainers right along.I will be proud to vote Yes On One and hope you will be there as well.that is the only way we will cancel out the idiots.

  • seththayer

    So, let me get this straight here.  I have been living with my husband for the last 13 years and that’s ok with you.  But when I want to celebrate that union amongst friends and family and show my commitment to him by purchasing a civil marriage license, then I am perverted?  Such interesting logic.  

  • There are people that disagree with you and that does not make them a bigot or a redneck.  You have to learn that just because you think the way that you do does not mean that others think the way that you do and that’s okay.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think someone’s a bigot because they disagree with me.  I think they are a bigot for trying to take away my rights as an American citizen based on my sexual orientation.

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  • Anonymous

    NO ON QUESTION 1!     That is the way to vote November 6–

    Seems strange that such a fuss was made by the media concerning a paltry amount that the opponents to Question  1 received, but $50,000. in one fell swoop, added to the $5 million already announced, puts the proponents way ahead in the money game.

    • Tedlick Badkey

      Please give a rational reason why you wish to harm gay citizens and their families.

      How will their marriages harm you? Why do you like seeing them harmed?

    • If you choose to live in America under a theocracy than you must also agree with the Republican in Arkansas who has written a book calling for disobedient children to be killed per the Bible. You cant have it both ways. Either Democracy or Theocracy. SSM has hurt no other country with the exception of a few who have taken advantage but no more than Christians who bomb abortion clinics. Yes on 1. My family is counting on Maine. 

  • Anonymous

    To TrickleUp:
    Fine, older statistics can be fair game it you want.  Now, which study included in your source compared homosexuals and heterosexuals? Because if none of them do that, then they are worthless to this discussion, as we are talking about homosexuals AS COMPARED TO heterosexuals.  Studies exculsivly done on homosexuals don’t contribute as there is no hetereosexual base refrence.

    “However, I doubt that 18.4% of Christians belong to the KKK. I bet it is way under 1%. ” So it’s not fair to judge an entire group based on the actions of a few, gotcha. I’m assuming that means you will stop judging the enitre gay community based on the actions of a few.

  • Tedlick Badkey

    post out of place…

  • Anonymous

    The Bible says homosexuality is bad.

    The same section of the Bible also says cheeseburgers, clams, lobsters, tattoos, and clothes made from 2 different fabrics are bad.

    So if we follow the Bible on marriage laws, we should outlaw marriage for any woman with a tattoo, any man who has eaten a cheeseburger, and ANYBODY who has eaten clams or lobsters, or worn a Baxter State Parka.

    If the people who believe the Bible is the Infallible Word of God get to decide who town clerks can give marriage licenses to, a lot of people might be in trouble. Including some of them.

    Forget Bible a la carte. What part of liberty and justice for all are you having a problem with?

    • Anonymous

      *cheers*

  • Anonymous

    “Many of the strongest supporters of marriage do not support civil unions because they fall short of providing the same protections and security that civil marriage provides. The lack of a clear answer for strong supporters likely influenced the answers of strong supporters.”

    This is NOT TRUE!!! My husband and I were not married in a church and there fore we have a CIVIL UNION….we are afforded the same rights as those who were MARRIED in a church..

    I support same sex marriage but if you are really going to get worked up about what you call it it’s just going to be that much more difficult to pass it! 

    • Anonymous

      Just because you weren’t married in a church doesn’t mean that you weren’t married.  It just means that you have a civil marriage as opposed to a religious AND civil marriage.  Civil Unions are not available in Maine.

    • If you are an opposite sex couple in Maine you can not have a civil union. There is no such thing.  

      • Anonymous

        Ahhhh yes actually there is! I had a civil service with a notary….therefore discibed as a civil union…a marrige is with a priest….I say change the name of the licence and let whom ever wishes to have one should have one

    • Tedlick Badkey

      I’ll wager $50 that the license you received from the state is a marriage license.

      The state does not issue civil union licenses.

      • Anonymous

        True! So they should change the name of the license….what I had was a civil service….with a notary…not a marriage with a priest

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