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  • Anonymous

    It’s about time someone has been looking out on what we get for our dollar.

    • Wisdom doesn’t come cheap!

    • – $ 300,000 for a Private Toll Rd Study 
      +    $60,000 savings to stay in the Dark!

      —————-
      = -$ 240,000

      And STILL in the Dark!

      Had a little trouble in High School Math Didn’t Ya! 

      LOL

      • #dothemath

      • #numbersneverlie

      • Anonymous

        The east west highway has been needed for well over fifty years , I hope the study shows that. It is very important to our economic revival .

        • Maine didn’t exactly fall off the North American Continent in the last 50 years for a lack of an East West Highway now did it?

          I have seen a few reasons to build highways over my life span and usually there is a traffic jam or two to verify the need!

          The only Traffic Jam in Dover Foxcroft /  Sangerville is from the jobs exiting their way out of town to Communist China for Slave Labor Wages!

          • Anonymous

            In case you haven’t noticed, Maine has been behind the rest of the country for the last 50 years economically.

    • okay so $60,000….that doesn’t go very far nowadays……#paullepage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU

      • Anonymous

        At least it’s a start

  • Anonymous

    Maine will go it alone good job gov

    • Anonymous

      “Go it alone”? What, exactly does that mean? Secession? 

      • StillRelaxin

        On this “one”  Mr. LePage probably has actually made one of his first good decisions.  I mean it’s not like any intelligent person there was going to give someone like him two minutes of their time.  Way to go Paul.  Now take that 60K and hire yourself another family member.

        • Tyke

          Republicans have a very strong majority in the National Governors Association. LePage can’t even play well with his own team.
          .
          Do you supposed there is merit to the question of whether he was dis-invited after misbehaving at the last get together?

          • Anonymous

            playing well with your team means going along with the status quo.  Go Gov!

          • Tyke

            No, of course that is not actually true, when the mission and goals of an organization are to drive change and improvement. Your type of “logic” is exactly why LePage cannot learn from anyone who doesn’t parrot back what he already believes regardless of what the facts say.

          • Anonymous

            I have been in a few organizations that should do what you say but the reality is they exists to serve the organization itself from dues paying members.

          • honey777

            I think you’re right on target. 
            It would be nice if the media actually reported on LePage’s “misbehavior,” since it calls into question his capacity to hold office.

          • Anonymous

            ohh like every time the guy sneezes it is on the front page of every paper in the state.. Give me a break

        • About what I would expect from you – almost but then f…. it.

          • StillRelaxin

            I see you’re still keeping up with the low standards of conversation you share with Paulie. Be careful entitle, folks who talk like you two sometimes end up getting “dis-invited” from making public comments in Washington and forums like this. No I won’t flag you. I like it when conservatives speak their mind like you and Paulie. It lets the rest of us know who not to support or vote for. Thanks a bunch.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you, Sir!

  • Anonymous

    What’s he going to do with 60 grand, put the Labor Mural back up. What a con dog he is.

    • Wow, still obsessing over that ugly mural.  *tsk*

    • Anonymous

      talk about being obsessed! at least he had the gonads to stand up to the association and tell them their dues are not worth it. can’t remember any other governors ever doing this. oh yeah, i forgot all we have had is democrat governors for how long now? should have know better than to bring this up. good job paul, keep up the good work.

    • Anonymous

      That mural is making a good rug right now, get over it….Getting some good use on the floor of some state garage..Yessah..

    • Anonymous

      Get over it. Find a place to stick your wonderful mural and go see it as often as you used to. Oh wait, you probably never saw it once in your life did you.

    • Anonymous

       Thanks to the Gov. we are now only 5 grand in the hole now for Mural a union artist over charged for. Many a young artist would have painted that just to have their name on it.

  • Anonymous

     Again the Gov. is working for all the people of Maine. A happy 39%er. Which by the way is 1% more then the last Gov. For all those that have forgotten.

  • Anonymous

    This makes perfect sense to me, and I am on the opposite side of the fence. 
    I also like his proposed residency restrictions for welfare recipients. 

    • Tyke

       Are you referring to the welfare residency proposals that get brought up every single session and the sponsors have to told that the feds have ruled them illegal?
      .
      The only thing those do is waste taxpayers money in bringing the ignorant up to speed.

  • Anonymous

    He’s absolutely correct!

    • Ben Hutchins

      I think you might’ve misspelled “accidentally”. :)

      • Anonymous

         hahahaha… very good!   But I like Lepage and I think, on this point, he’s absolutely correct!

      • I think you’ve misspelled “misspelled” hahaha i’m joking!!! made you look though!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU

      • Mike Baudanza

        another HIGHER THINKING INDOCTRINATED LIBERAL, lets elect tax and spend obama lemmings and see how that goes, lol. no thank you!

        • Ben Hutchins

          Well, you got the “higher thinking” part right, anyway, that’s something.

  • Anonymous

    The money saved in just the club Gov fees and the cost of going should be put into a LIHEAP type fund.Granted it is only a drop in the bucket but its a start

    • Superuser23

      Nah, he is planning another trip to Jamaica and Florida already with that money

      • Anonymous

         hiring his wife to work alongside his daughter

        • Superuser23

          I can’t picture his wife doing anymore work then the rest of them, so she would get paid for pretty much doing nothing too, so I guess it is all the same

  • Anonymous

     “I get no value out of those meetings,” he said. “They are too
    politically correct and everybody is lovey-dovey and no decisions are
    ever made. There are some tough decisions that need to be made in this
    country and we need to start making them.”

    People can say what they want about Paul. He is a straight shooter that tells it like it is. He sees there is a big problem in this country and doesn’t pretend to cover it up. We need more politicians that speak like this, I don’t care what side of the aisle they are on.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like he offended them too, at our expense.

    • I still say that paul lepage did a fairly well job in his time in office. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU He definately has done some great achievements with making the whoopie pie the official dessert of the state. That needed to be resovled and he has done so. kudos for that. but seriously, he never gets heat for the economy of maine just because the mentality of the state of maine is that we are “always in a recession.” whether that’s true or not. #stateofmaine #pinetreestate #wordscan’tdescribe #paullepage #replytobushfan #govenorofmaine #mainelepage #economyofmaine #mainethepinetreestate

    • What good is a Straight Shooter to Democracy who Just Shoots everyone that disagree’s with him?

      Sadam Huesein was a Straight Shooter!

  • Anonymous

    Fair enough, Governor. I think you’ve asked a good question.  If you really need to consult with Jerry Brown or Scott Walker or whoever, we’ll pay for the toll call.

    It is also refreshing to hear Emily Cain and others from the other end of the spectrum agreeing that the Governor asked a good question.

  • Anonymous

    55 States?
     

    • Anonymous

      where did the other 49 States come from??? WHAT?????

    • Anonymous

      You mean it isnt 57 anymore????

    • Ben Hutchins

      Fifty states and five territories.  (Specifically, if you’re curious, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico.)

      • Anonymous

        Thanks Ben

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if they might have dis-invited him………………

    • Tyke

       There are rumors about his behavior at their meetings. Just rumors, but you bring up a good point.

  • Superuser23

    That’s it Gov, everyone is just too lovey-dovey, when all you want to is tell someone off or make some stupid comment to make the state look bad. It’s called socializing Paul, interacting, actually having civil conversations……

    • Anonymous

      That’s a bunch of bull S**T and a ‘politically correct’ POV.  MOST Mainers are not embarrassed by him and like the fact that he does not mince words, tells it like it is and just saved the state $60,000.00.  Way to go Gov!

      • Anonymous

        Did you do some kind of poll or something…? “most Mainers…” That’s a stretch…

      • Superuser23

        Reach just a little bit higher and you can grasp for more insufficient comments

      • WoW! 

        $60,000 split up among a million Maine households is 6 cents a —piece!That s like staying ignorant about the rest of the nation’s ideas for a stick of gum!

        It’s No wonder nobody is voting Republican this year!

        LOL

        • Anonymous

          And a used car salesman would tell you that if you just give up that morning coffee and donut you would have that extra $ 60. to make that new car payment.  You are using car salesman math . Standing alone 6 cents isn’t much but add up the savings that could be found if all areas of state government reined in their spending a bit and you’d have to praise Lepage for doing his job. We  finally have a governor with the ball$ big enough to do his job and should encourage him to do more.

          • His job is to represent ALL of us, not just a few of his cronies and the NO TAXES ideology!

            I would be willing to pay in 6 Cents to enlighten the man ,

            then again, you may be right,

             trying to educate a Stonebrain is a Waste of Money!

      • Anonymous

         I’m embarrassed by him when he acts like a mule with a bee up his wazoo; I’m embarrassed when he shoots off his mouth without thinking, and when he makes enemies when he doesn’t need to.

        You ought to be embarrassed by it, too, since he is your top ranking employee.  The government of the State of Maine, including the Governor, does work for you, correct?  Would you want employees working for Viper13 Enterprises, Inc.,  acting like buffoons?

        That all being said, I think Mr. LePage has asked a legitimate question.  His decision will do no one any harm, and he might well be right.  I applaud Emily Cain for not making this a stupid partisan issue.

        If you want to help Mr. LePage, you do better to encourage him when he does well, and rebuke him when he reverts to the baser instincts that he sometimes displays.

        • Anonymous

          LOL!  What?

      • My Uncle used to Fart and Burp in Church,

        He never put a dime in the plate either,

        he was never embarassed!

    • Anonymous

      $60,000 to socialize? c’mon!

  • Anonymous

    If LePage attended a roundtable meeting with Albert Einstein, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jesus Christ, Abraham Lincoln, Mother Theresa, and Steve Jobs, he probably “wouldn’t get anything out of it” either, so it’s hard to tell if  leaving the National Governor’s Association is a good thing or a bad thing.

    It’s true that LePage probably wouldn’t know a good idea if it hit him in the face, so he might be wasting our money by attending any meetings.

    • Ben Hutchins

      Not that I don’t agree with you in broad strokes, but what’s Steve Jobs doing there?  That’s kind of the silicon-age equivalent of inviting Henry Ford to a meeting of the Norse gods. :)

      • Tyke

         Apple fanboy maybe?

        • Anonymous

           My comments were inappropriate deleted, so I’m posting them again.  My statement was that I’d like to know how much Penguin spent on his recent junket to China.  It seems to me that Maine would be better served if our Governor spent more time working collaboratively with other Governors and less time taking tax-payer funded vacations to far off lands.

          • Tyke

            LePage apologists get very whiny and childish when their hero is referred to as Penguin or other names. They flag comments right and left.
            .
            Many of these folks use worse names for Baldacci and Obama, but that whole personal responsibility thing really confuses them.

    • Anonymous

      your comments are appalling

  • Anonymous

    This makes sense! I think Gov. LePage is right on with this one….spending tax payers money on what!??? Good call! What else can you trim?

    • fourCatssoon

       You mean by taking all his friends with him on the “fake” China visit purpose. He loves Egg rolls.

  • Anonymous

    Good move on LePage’s part.

    Similarly most towns pay thousands of dollars to be members of the Maine Municipal Association and get no or minimal benefit from it except that it’s a place for Town Managers to network to find their next job.

    Keep up the good work Gov!

    • Tyke

       Many towns save many times the dues to the MMA by being part of their group insurance pools and pooled buying power to negotiate lower prices.

      • Anonymous

        That’s a myth they’d like you to believe. 

        One town I know of, after many years of trusting the MMA insurance story, put their health insurance out to bid and it came in lower than MMA.  

    • Paul lepage is at it again!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU

  • Henderson bobby

    I do not believe this another thing I agree with Lepage on.  Most times I do not agree . The issue with politics is we seem to always takes sides and not look at each issue. Good job. 

  • Keep up the great work Govna :) 

    • Anonymous

      He is a Get_R_Done kind of guy….2 terms he will do..

      • Anonymous

         don’t hold your breath…

        • Anonymous

          If you say so……Cleaning house, most working people realize what he is doing..

  • Anonymous

    Good for LePage.  Good for Cain for backing up his reasoning.  And good for BDN for finally posting a decent picture of LePage. 

    • Ben Hutchins

       Aw, I like the finger picture.  It’s a perfect visual summary.

    • fourCatssoon

       There is a decent picture of the “Worst” Governor ever elected to the office in the history of Maine. Where, must have had a lot of photo touched up, i bet it took a lot of charcoal :)

  • After 11 / 06 /2012……. He will be done…..Won’t have to quit .

    • Ben Hutchins

      I hate to be that guy, but the next gubernatorial election in this state isn’t until 2014.  They’re offset from the presidential ones.

      • Anonymous

        Another Obama supporter…………..

        • Ben Hutchins

           … what?

      • Tyke

         But when the legislature flips to Democratic control in November LePage will have little power.

  • Anonymous

    Good man, why waste money? Thats why he is doing some house cleaning ….

    • fourCatssoon

       You mean he took his Daughter and the relative with a hammer off the payroll finally. That is why he is rank the “Worst” Governor ever elected to the office in Maine history. Go move Big Paulie

  • Anonymous

    That is what a telephone is for….

  • Anonymous

    GO PAUL!!!!!

    • PLEASE !

       Far Away!

  • Anonymous

    Ah rats I read this wrong I thought it said he pulled out of the governors office. Got my hopes up for a second…

  • Henderson bobby

    I do not like much of what Lepage dose but respect that he stands his ground . Please people do not make everything partisan . Give him credit for the good thing blame for the bad. Do the same with the DEMs . Time to vote all all yes men strait party voters reps in each party. We all need to work together . Sometimes the republicans give Lapage a rubber stamp. So,etimes the Dems give the liberals a rubber stamp. Lets stop the games and go back to the real issues . !6 trillion dollar dept. Anyone who is good at math can tell you we are in real danger. Maybe we need a Ross Perot. I am not educated bu back in 2000 I could see the housing crises comming house prices rising 20% a year . Know one did anything. let it happen. Anyone good at math know nothing can rise at the rate forever . We need real people who can tell us the truth even if it is not what we want to here. 

    • Anonymous

      I saw Ross Perot speak at the Holiday Inn by the Bay many years ago, and I voted for him when he ran for President.   That said; Paul LePage is NO Ross Perot… Mr. Perot was not hateful and condescending, and did not have to rely on bullying techniques to accomplish anything.

      • Henderson bobby

        Agreed . My point is the man was being as real as he could not just feel good stuff. No one want to here the truth. Not electable . Between the 2 real choices we have in November things do not look good for the next 4 years.

      • Anonymous

        Ther rest bullie with funding, do as I say or we will cut funding.

  • Anonymous

    Your name says it all, like the majority of liberals in this country. you wouldn’t like this Governor if he went up in flames.

    • Anonymous

      I would!  I would! LOL  If not at least his pants on fire!

      • So you would like to see LePage burn up – a great show of you and your and fellow democrats intelligence.

        • Anonymous

          Haven’t you ever heard the old saying, “Liar, liar, pants on fire”?

    • Anonymous

      i would.

  • Anonymous

    Viva LePage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • What?

      The $60,000 will just go to a job for his Sister in Law!

      LOL

  • Anonymous

    “I wasn’t getting anything out of it.”….no doubt.

    • Anonymous

      He couldn’t have contributed much, they’re probably best rid of him.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Paul….

  • Anonymous

    LePage likes

  • Anonymous

    I hope the other governors are not too disappointed.

  • Anonymous

    Just pull out of the Governorship, Paul…that’s what we want !

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!! for 70k a year we don’t get much out of lepage except embarrassment and entertainment, I will be glad when he resigns, or is indicted or impeached, then Maine will be Maine again. 

  • Henderson bobby

    Spruce I do not agree on much of what he dose . Give the man support for what he dose do right . No matter how little you see . Also pick on the liberals when the rummer stamp things that are not right. Half the people you ague with are not much different that you.

  • Anonymous

    He probably found out even if you do not pay the dues your are still a member NGA as stated in this article.  Then decided to make himself look good politically in the news.

    • Anonymous

      Freeloader.

  • melibusa

     Rep. Emily Cain;   “You should always be asking, ‘am I getting something out of this that benefits the people of Maine and the state of Maine?’”
    Even some of the Democratic leadership seems to agree it needs to be looked at.

    • Anonymous

        My comments were inappropriate deleted, so I’m posting them again.  My statement was that I’d like to know how much Penguin spent on his recent junket to China.  It seems to me that Maine would be better served if our Governor spent more time working collaboratively with other Governors and less time taking tax-payer funded vacations to far off lands.

      • Anonymous

        a reminder your hometown boy did absolutely nothing to solve this state’s problems. at least LePage has the courage to tackle them. I don’t like all his solutions myself but you have to start somewhere and i give him an A for effort

  • Anonymous

    You would rather he waste money? I guess he doesn’t want to “kowtow” to national groups that like junkets.

    • Anonymous

      $60K in waste reduction is ok.. but a $9,000,000 per year subsidy to the Maine Maritime Academy should be on his short list of future savings. Can’t believe that the administration is proposing another bond issue to support this sports and spa facility. With the last bond issue, the MMA purchased a $1.6 million estate for its president to call home.

      • Anonymous

        That’s because the state gets twice that amount back in taxes fromm MMA grads each year. You see, we work so you don’t have to!

        • Anonymous

          Since MMA grads are usually employed on florida yachts and southern offshore oil rigs.. at least the minority that don’t take typical land jobs.. it’s difficult to fathom how you can state that Maine receives twice back in taxes. A more realistic figure would be less that 10%.

          • Anonymous

            Not sure where you are getting your facts from. I have approx. 10 neighbors that ship out for two month stretches worldwide and every one of them are paying Maine income taxes. I also have a good friend that travels back and forth to Florida, two weeks on, two weeks off. He also pays Maine income taxes. And my nephew works out of New York, traveling up and down the east coast, again, two weeks on and two weeks off. And he is paying Maine income taxes. All of them are MMA graduates, making a very good living for their familes back here in Maine. The cost of their education was more than if they had attended UMO. So, should U Maine be privatized as well? Sure sounds like someone didn’t get accepted at MMA and enjoys chewing on sour grapes.  

          • Anonymous

            You pretty much hit it right on.

          • Anonymous

            Look my uniformed poster, I haven’t heard of one grad working taking a lowly yacht job. If they did it would be because there was nothing else available, especially for a mate which ihas a more limited job potential.  Some may take off shore oil platform jobs but its save to say they are very high paying jobs and the Maine grads are very well suited for.  

          • Anonymous

            Nice try Cliff.. but your facts? are not aligned with the reality of MMA’s employment history.

          • Anonymous

            Care to back up your claims with some facts?

          • Anonymous

            We all realize how you feel since you never miss a chance to say it  It cost like 67 cents person in the state to run MMA. Didn’t I offer to pay you your 67 cents share to just stop this nonsense some time ago? I’ll double it if you go away. 

          • Anonymous

            How about YOU just paying into the MMA endowment fund?  The MMA has one of the lowest contributions by graduates to its endowment fund of any college .. which shows their appreciation of their highly subsidized training. Not every maine institution has a $1 Million+ alumni center for only 200 yearly graduates .. so use it.

          • Anonymous

            Every Maine boy that graduates and joins the Military or Merchant Marines still pays Maine taxes.

      • Anonymous

        My son graduated from MMA in 2011.  He just had the conn on a container ship that transited the Strait of Hormuz.  In case your geography isn’t up to snuff, that is the narrow little spit of water that connects the Arabian Sea to the Persian Gulf.  He wrote of being tailed by an Iranian destroyer, and mentioned the Iranian patrol boats that were in the way physically, and also pestering his ship with inane questions all the time.

        Since MMA is a sports and spa facility, I can only assume that he was prepared to do this on innate ability, aided by my superb parenting skills.

        We’ve all heard you grind your axe.  Enough already.

        • Anonymous

          .. And exactly how much did your son pay in taxes to remunerate those in Maine that toiled from dawn to dusk who paid for his highly subsidized training?  Yes, my geography is up to snuff as i’m well familiar of the coast of UAE including barracuda fishing and the beaches where the local women lift their burka’s above their ankles.  It’s time for the MMA to be privatized.

          • Anonymous

            My son paid about as much as you probably did at ages 17-21. 

            That is a really stupid comment, and I’m guessing you are old enough so that you ought to know enough not to make it.

          • Anonymous

            Probably, but he his trying to be and sound like you, and doing a rather fine job of it.

          • Anonymous

            Who, if I may ask, are you trying to sound like?

          • Anonymous

            My point exactly, I paid zero taxes when I was 17-21 to same as your son pays into Maine’s tax coffers being employed overseas.  The MMA is a terrible business model draining precious financial resources from a challenged funding base and needs to be corrected .. and soon. It’s time for this sports and spa facility for out of state jocks to be privatized. 

          • Anonymous

            Let me correct one major assumption on your part. Just because he works overseas does not mean he doesn’t pay Maine taxes. If you are a resident you are required to do so. In 32 years of my shipping experience I had did not earn one penny in the state of Maine and usually was here less than half the year, some less than 30 days. I have paid Maine back many times from 100’s of thousands of dollars in taxes. Maine gets a good deal in my opinion. BTW-do you happen to live in Castine?

          • Anonymous

            My son is from this State and he graduated there.  Too bad you and people like you have made it impossible for those who graduate at a good college to stay here.

          • Anonymous

             Listen man – we get that you didn’t get in when you applied.  But your unilateral ranting about the place is just background noise – nobody is on board with you.

        • Anonymous

          Where did you learn those superb parenting skills?  Certainly not from your parents who you are about to slamdunk.  You sir are a pompous arrogant egotistical know-it-all who is probably an expert on every subject in the world.  I am happy to begin this monday morning and able to say that I do not have any association with a person of your ilk.

          • Anonymous

             At least I’m not an anonymous one, anyway.  

            We can agree on something – we’ll keep the non-association a mutual decision.

  • Tom Jones

    $60,000 is nothing compared to the state budget. Pay attention and you will see that Mary Mayhew departments misplaces 10 times that amount of money every year. Instead LePage is making Maine look like a bunch of fools!!

  • Anonymous

    Way to go appalledbylepage!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe those who are members will withdraw from ALEC as well…

  • Anonymous

    LePage doesn’t need the governors’ association, though it provides “policy academies that share best practices.” He gets his marching orders directly from ALEC and the Heritage Foundation. No rational thought is necessary.

  • Anonymous

    You can never get anything out of a meeting if you enter with a CLOSED MIND!

    • Tyke

       Or an impaired one …

  • Tyke

    I agree with him on this one. Paul LePage is way too obstinate and too  intellectually lazy to learn from others who are much, much more qualified, intelligent and experienced than he is.
    .
    Drop HIS membership now but keep the more intelligent staffers involved, and then sign up again when we get a new governor after the 2014 election.

    • Anonymous

      Or maybe he should take a page from Dale McCormick’s playbook from the Maine State Housing and send 90 people in his place…

      • Tyke

        Hmmmm. Let’s check with the federal agency which strongly recommended and paid for the training McCormick authorized and see what they think.

  • Anonymous

    Is he willing to put that $60k into the MaineCare system?   If so, this would be the first thing he’s done that I’ve liked since day one.   Many Professional Associations are expensive and unnecessary (especially with the ease of communication and sharing information/ideas that is free via the WWW), and I agree the $$ would be better spent elsewhere… unless he uses it to put another overpaid family member on the payroll.   Why were expenditures like this not looked at as cost-saving measures until now? 

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Good move. He won’t be alone because we can’t afford to feed the parasites when times get rough.

  • Anonymous

    He gets no value out of those meetings because it is probably way over his head.  He can’t be the center of attention probably either.

    • Anonymous

      They probably had a cash bar – he thought it should have been “free”.

      Yessah

  • Anonymous

    There’s a good chance there are some civil discussions among people with very different governing philosophies and styles, not to mention v iews of the roles of government at all levels at the meetings and workshops the NGA hosts.  As we know, our man doesn’t particularly like mixing with people who hold different views from his, people who might even have skills he could profit by. As for the lovey-dovey political correctness he disikes, he needn’t worry – no one will ever accuse him of that, no matter whether or not he attends any NGA (or anyone else’s) sessions.  

  • Anonymous

    Anybody who has ever been ‘in business’, seriously, understands that you must support your
    ‘support people’, or you won’t get much in the way of support, yourself!

    ‘Gubnah’ LePage can’t ‘afford’ to ‘go it alone’, and neither can the State of Maine.

    We see this a lot from this administration – the proverbial ‘train wreck waiting to happen’.

    Obama 2012

    • Anonymous

      Obama shouldn’t even be a part of this discussion….”Clean out the State House from top to bottom asap” is more what I am thinking.

  • Anonymous

    Alright!

  • Anonymous

       It is not surprising that LePage doesn’t get anything out of meetings since he is not a team player.   Goodbye mutual interstate cooperation and deals.  Seems like LePage wants to cut us off from the nation and create his own ill-conceived version of an island….   Just waiting for Cutler to run away with the next election.

  • Maybe Republican legislators will quit their memberships in ALEC.

    • Anonymous

      My thoughts exactly…

  • Anonymous

    lovey-dovey and no decisions are ever made. Of course politicians don’t care about the country they care about votes. 

  • Anonymous

    Giving that $60,000 to LIHEAP may be a drop in a bucket; however, when I added up all the amounts mentioned in the article, I came up with a total of $351.347.  But figured in that amount are not the costs of going to these meetings.  Travel, lodging, meals, add it up and pretty soon you are talking some serious money to give to LIHEAP.  Especially, considering that nothing is gained from going to these junkets.  It would be nice to know, in detail, how much has been learned by our lawmakers to belong to these organizations. And to know the total cost.  Maybe some investigative reporter could figure all this out for us, the taxpayers. It would make us feel good to know how these expenditures have benefitted us. Anyone?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll bet the REAL reason is he doesn’t like feeling out of his league among the other governors, whose brains can put his to shame.  

  • Anonymous

    Did you all miss it! Lepage is going to the winter conferance with Obama! No hope for Mitt in lepage’s eyes!

    • Tyke

       Good catch!
      .
      Even Paul LePage knows Romney does not stand a chance.

  • Anonymous

    “The National Governors Association (NGA)—the bipartisan organization of
    the nation’s governors—promotes visionary state leadership, shares best
    practices and speaks with a collective voice on national policy’. 
    It not hard to imagine that sharing best practices in areas such as drug abuse, energy, transportation, health and public safety could easily prevent needless state spending of $60,000 in “re-inventing wheels”.

  • Anonymous

    blather …

  • Anonymous

    no one else calls him penguin. is that all you have?  playground name calling. 

  • Why pay NGA when ALEC, the Heritage Founddation,  AFP and the Koch boys will tell LePage what he needs to do for free?

  • Anonymous

    Governor LePage has the taxpayers in mind and is trying to curb senseless spending.  Those who do not see that he stepped into this job, which had an almost 40 year spend, spend, spend mindset  by the liberals,  must have blinders on.

    • Anonymous

      Nah, he just doesn’t want to deal with working governors. Saves us money because he has nothing to offer.

  •  What does what you posted have to do with the article.  Do you ever comment on the article?  Are you Ben Grant?

    • Anonymous

      He’s Lou Grant.  Same ideology. 

  • Anonymous

    Did you know what Scott Walker said when he won the governorship in Wisconsin? To frame it correctly, Walker is very much in the thrall of the Koch bros and corporate-sponsored ALEC as well (the Koch bros were his largest campaign contributors on top of that…) Wisconsin is “open for business…”

    Gives a whole new meaning to the sign LePage put up in Kittery…

    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill

    If you watch this, note how many times the state house in Augusta, the Maine flag, and other Maine references (such as the law firm Preti Flaherty) come up in the ALEC clips…

    • Anonymous

      If you do your research, you will see that the Left has far more political groups funding them with far more money then the right ever dreamed of. You have the likes of George Soros who has more money then God, and people like George Clooney and the hollywood likes all supporting the libs. And the left gets mad about the Koch brothers having a political opinion and supporting it.. It’s their right and privilege to do so just as you have the right to support your political ideology.  

      • Anonymous

        According to your thinking, even though your premise is pretty flawed, Soros, Clooney, or any “hollywood likes” has just as much right to express their political opinion as the Koch bros…

        As far as Soros having as much money as God, here’s some research (make sure you click through and find the names for the Koch bros, the Waltons, and George Soros…):

        http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#p_1_s_a0_All%20industries_All%20countries_All%20states_

        Turn off the right wing BS channels you get your news from and do some objective research.

        You know… I am a working person. I don’t make a lot of money, and in fact, about every 7 or 8 years I have found I need to “reinvent” myself because of getting laid off, work changing, and take a new direction. As a result of the big banks and greed of Wall St effing everything up, I have to do that all over again right now… The Koch bros are two of the wealthiest men in this country. The Walton family of Walmart, same thing… THEY SUPPORT THINGS THAT MAKE MY LIFE MORE DIFFICULT. YOUR’S TOO. You just don’t realize it, and if you vote republican, you vote AGAINST your interest. They want to DESTROY the social safety net that would keep you fed and sheltered if your work completely dried up… They want to tell you “you’re on your own” if everything in your financial situation goes bad… A vote for them is a vote against your own interests. DO THE RESEARCH, MAN…

        Are the dems the best thing since apple pie and ice cream…? NO. But they aren’t going to destroy the basic things that keep you or your grandma from living in the car if or when things go completely south for you… What is good for business or what is good for the wealthy, IS NOT necessarily GOOD for you as a workingman… You are just a LABORER. You are AN EXPENSE that cuts into THEIR profits… You are NOTHING to them… Do the research.

  • Give me specific examples where corporations, which are a bunch of people working and trying to make money, are more important than the average working people that probably work at the corporations that you so despise. 

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Governor LePage will pull Maine out of the UN next! 

    • Anonymous

      I wish he had the power to do so

  • Anonymous

    I want to know where the 60,000 goes.  To avoid a leadership group like this one  can lead to isolation for Maine. He represents the state.

  • Anonymous

     He loves attention.  Others get attention, including negative attention, out here posting on everything he does.

    I think he does a lot of silly things, but let’s give him a break.  Emily Cain was able to do so, and maybe even Justin Alfond gave him a pass, for once.

    You should give it a rest. 

    • Anonymous

      Is the term imbecile familiar to you?

      • Anonymous

         Every time you post I learn more about the concept………..

  • JohnR

     “LePage pulls out of National Governors Association”.
    I hope he was using some other form of protection, withdrawal is not a guarantee.

  • Anonymous

    What an embarrassment!..Unreal..

    • Anonymous

       speck?  eye?

  • Jake_OO7

    Lepage was kicked out, he didn’t leave.  

    • Anonymous

      proof… or it didnt happen

      • Jake_OO7

        Read the article Mrs. Doubtfire! ;}

    • Anonymous

      I’d like to see something to support this statement, Jake_007

      • Jake_OO7

        Then get off the lazy boy and turn off Faux News. :)

  • Cant Fix Stupid

    I agree with the gov on this one I don’t agree with him much. This is why he got elected.

  • Anonymous

    if the nursing home in Calais was so profitable why didn’t the Calais business community take it over?

  • Anonymous

    love him or hate him, LePage is trying to improve the business climate in this state. in case you missed it China has passed Japan has the world’s second largest economy. there will be a lot more benefit from the China trip than the junket to governor’s association.

    • The man is trying to line the pockets of a few select Individuals at everybody elses expense!

    • Anonymous

      the 60k he ‘saved’ the taxpayers is about what he’ll  pay for technical assistance, next time the computers in Augusta need updating or integrating.

  • Anonymous

    Typical LePage. Pulls out of an organization, THEN asks his commissioners if it’s a good idea. Since he’s all ready pulled out, would any of them say no?

    • Anonymous

      Maybe he has finally figured out he is not fit to be governor of any state.

  • There is always something to learn from cooperating with others,

     Beligerance is NOT a virtue!

    60,000 is a drop in the bucket for shared wisdom!

  • Anonymous

    I think he made a good call. 

  • HIS  beligerence reminds me of a Co- Worker who raised his hand at a safety meeting to ask why we need to sit through this ridiculous meeting!

    He held up a hand with three fingers missing from previously getting it caught in a cement mixer while checking the consistancy of the mix!

    The laughter is still resonating from that episode 20 years later at that plant!

    • Man! I just can’t stop laughing at that one!

      I kill me!

      LOL

    • Anonymous

      He may have had a point considering he wasn’t getting anything from that meeting or the one twenty years ago.

  • Anonymous

    So, how much fed grant money are we missing out on because of LePage’s non-payment?  Biting of nose to spite face?  Again?  I thought the majority of the Governors were R.  maybe he isn’t even their kind of people.

  • YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU

  • Anonymous

    Style over substance. Same governor that pushed a tax cut (most went to the already wealthy) and paid for it by cutting meds for elderly, Head Start for kids, road construction, R&D, etc. Same Gov that says Mainers are mostly welfare bums, others look down on our students, and sold out rural Mainers with the insurance rate hike bill now wants credit for dropping a membership? But only after he meets with President Obama again? Thought he was going to tell him to kiss his butt. Stay classy Paul. 

  • SAY WHAT? WHAT THE HECK IS LEPAGE DOING NOW? OH MY WORD!!!!!! #whataretheydoing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU

  • Anonymous

    Nah, sorry. Your assessment is wrong.

  • WAIT A MINUTE, JOHN BALDACCI ISN’T OUR GOVENOR? SINCE WHEN!!?!?!?! HAHAHA JUST KIDDING!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU

  • Reporter-“So what does this mean for the state of Maine as a whole?”
    Paul Lepage -“I’m not going to answer that, that’s a clown question bro.”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zy23pvkobU

  • Anonymous

    when people come to america to live permanently then they need to learn english BECAUSE IT IS THE DOMINANT LANGUAGE  speak it so it can be understood plainly.  the older generation will find it harder to accomplish but the succeeding generations will grow up americans and just as english speaking as the rest of us.

  • Davida Willette

    lepage is nuts 

    • Anonymous

      He’s high on tea-salts….

  • Anonymous

    Good for the Governor..  Groups like this are for egos.. Paul Lepage should run for president. Metro males have ruined this country. We need someone in there that has a big set of marbles. not the peas must suits carry around in the trousers today.. damm girlie men  

  • Anonymous

    It was a waste of money that we do not have.  Thank you, Governor LePage.

  • Jazz11

    Once a nut, always a nut.

  • Anonymous

    Good move Guv.

  • Anonymous

    Well someday when you gain some intellectual acumen you will understand, in the meantime be a good little democrat and follow your leaders to the detriment of our country.

  • Anonymous

    Thinking this was a wise move.. If we are paying such big money for membership and are really not getting anything in return it would be wise to pull out because that money can be put  to a more worthy cause right here in Maine…

  • Anonymous

    One vote for an  actor is not ” a number of occasions ” , I suspect you were once a registered democrat.

  • Anonymous

    My guess would be he can’t bully people at the NGA so he doesn’t want anything to do with it. Funny that 48 other governors don’t feel the way he does. This is to keep up the support from his core anti-government supporters and as usual not for the benefit of the entire state.

    • Anonymous

      Exchanging ideas and being nice to people are too much to ask.  Of COURSE he wouldn’t get anything out of it.  He has to be the most important person in the room, not just another governor.  I can’t wait to vote for Cutler again.

  • about time wa had a govenor who didnt do things because everyone else is doing it. good job govna

  • Anonymous

    Future President of the United States…

    • Anonymous

      Now that’s what I call funny! Milk through the nose funny! Thanks for the laugh.

  • Governor LePage is showing once again why he is a man who puts principles over politics. I can not wait to see him re-elect in 2014.

    • Anonymous

      Just the opposite! The truth is our governor can’t work with people unless they are like admiring doormats.

  • Anonymous

    There must have been some Democrats in the association. Can’t abide that, now. LePage is an embarrassment to our state.

  • Anonymous

    “I wasn’t getting anything out of it”. Big surprise. I am sure there are a lot of things our governor doesn’t “get anything out of”. Just one of the many ramifications of refusing to listen after the age of ten, because you already know everything. 

  • Anonymous

    I was anyone aware of what we was paying for this 60 grand a year good job GOV

  • I understand that Gov. LePage is thinking in our best interest here but, how come he doesn’t stand up and try to make a change within the NGA? Why not address his concerns to the NGA? I do commend him for trying to save some state money…

  • Anonymous

    Value is a changeable thing.  Often you get more out of a group if you bring something to it . . .

    • Anonymous

      It’s a place to pat each other on the back.

  • I think that it had something to do with the seating plan at the barbeque! 

    Christy and Lepage wheren’t allowed to sit on the same side of the Picnic Table!

    • Anonymous

      Shallow, Is obesity a disease? It is brought on in similar ways as alcoholism? Are these democrats mocking somebodies disease? You know people come in all shapes and sizes! Why can’t you accept him as he is! Ohh, that is right, because his political views are not the same as yours so he is a fair target for fat jokes!

      • Hey, I am a Fat Drunk also!
         
        A Fella can’t even laugh at his own kind?

    • Anonymous

      Speaking of all things “puerile”!  BTW, the man’s name is Christie.  If you’re going to insult him, at least get the spelling of his name right.

  • Anonymous

    I have no idea why my comment was flagged off, as well as “mainegal17” below.  I suspect that right wingers are clicking “flag” over and over on liberal comments, which somehow causes them to disappear, regardless of content.

    I am attacked and insulted constantly on these forums, and the BDN moderators have pretty much let almost anything go, which I think is sad, and promotes a climate of the lowest common denominator.

    Whether or not BDN moderators thought my comment inappropriate, there was nothing at all inappropriate about “mainegal17” ‘s comment below.   It was the only other comment critical of LePage at the top of this forum.

    I have tried to raise the quality of dialogue in these forums, by providing references, links and arguments in my posts.  In return, I am mocked, called names, and occasionally threatened. 

    I am going to repeat something I said in my flagged post above, because it is important:  the LePage administration allowed a nursing home in Calais to close, which meant the nursing home residents had no clear place to go.  Not only that, 92 jobs were lost in this small already impoverished town.  This was unethical and even vicious.  The whole of Washington County was negatively affected.

    PS: If anyone out there reading this is offended by the many insults and lowbrow comments in these forums–I recommend that you email: web@bangordailynews.com and complain. Otherwise, I suspect things will continue to deteriorate, and the puerile meanness will grow.

    • StillRelaxin

      It’s funny what gets flagged or removed and what stays. Scan further below for a chuckle on that subject. I think you’re right on target with your assessment as to why this happens. Of course liberals could get on here and do the very same thing but that would be like lowing oneself to the same level as those poor souls who have chosen to live in a world very different than the one your parents or your religion tried to convince you (and likely their parents and them as well) to create. Best to just keep on keeping on as you have always done. I’ve found contacting the BDN and asking someone to wake up sometimes helps fix this problem. Sadly, like most folks these days I think they are understaffed and overworked so you’ll have to be patient while those who cuss and swear and ridicule other posters here everyday laugh at the BDN and us all.  That’s the toughest part of being respectful participant here, it’s often a one way street.  Keep up the good works!

      • Anonymous

        I appreciate your patience and the tone you take in these forums.  I am going to start contacting BDN more regularly  because I feel they have a responsibility, to some degree, to keep these forums from deteriorating into the lowest common element. 

        web@bangordailynews.com

        I don’t want jeering and insults to drive away everyone else, including me, and I think if we all contact the BDN forum keepers, they might hire someone to spend more hours policing these forums to “keep it civil” as they maintain in their own guidelines.

        Right now, the insult-crowd is winning and taking over, and making mature rational discussion very unlikely.  Liberal comments are made to disappear in mysterious ways.

        • Anonymous

          I flagged this post as off topic.  Just so you know why.

    • jimbobhol

      Keep you comments to the article and stop going off on you ideological diatribe.  

      • Briney

        Fact is fact.

    • Anonymous

      Over a period of time you’ve done a fair amount of name-calling yourself.  Having said that, you have as much right to your opinion as anyone else here.  You do seem to have some visceral hatred of conservatives in general and Governor LePage in particular.  Threats have no place in this, or any other, political forum.  As a “right winger”, I’ve lost count of the number of times liberals have referred to members of the Tea Party as “tea baggers”.  One could be forgiven for initially not knowing that this is an offensive slur,  but it has continued.  The national Tea Prty movement is truly grass roots and claims affiliation to no political party.  Its members have been the targets of the most vile conduct at the hands of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the Democrat Party at large.    Finally,  the decision to close the Calais nursing home was not made by the LePage administration.  This decision would have been made by Licensing and Certification, which has domain over nursing homes in the state of Maine, and closure is a very long process and isn’t taken lightly.   

      • Briney

        Consider this fact:  President Barack Obama raised his hand four years ago to accept the presidency of the United States of America.  

        He had barely lowered his hand before the most vicious, vitriolic attacks ever leveled at a president, began.

        The attacks continued daily and continue today. Rupert Murdoch’s GOP-Tea Party propagandists along with Donald Trump, are always ready to castigate the president. Their insults and insolence go beyond policy criticism.  They are all vicious personal attacks. 

        The Tea Party’s original goals strangely enough were close knitted to those of Mitch McConnell: Make sure this president serves one term.  He then proceeded to blockade everything this president has tried to do.  The Tea Party has dismembered the Republican Party, which  is now, nothing more than a Radical Right Wing clan.

        Le Page is a tool of the Tea Party.  His only accomplishment has been constant adherence to the ideological goals espoused by that clan.

    • Anonymous

      In order to benefit from something, you first must be seeking something….regarding our Governor, he already knows all of what is good for Maine according to Garp – I mean the Governor.

    • Superuser23

       If an email is sent they will still remove it anyways that supports your comment that the BDN moderators let anything go, the email will reach them and they will remove it. Happens all the time. Rules only apply in certain cases here, discovered that a few times. It is like NFL replacement refs, sometimes it is a good call, but count on a bad one

    • Anonymous

      Talk about whining!

    • Briney

      I’m one of the many who enjoy reading your astute commentaries.   Keep up the good work. 

      • Anonymous

        Thanks, Briney.  There are a lot of mindgames in here from people who also throw out insults and are abusive.  Then they turn around and blame you.

         They frankly remind me of a certain sort of person I used to work with, when dealing with pathology.  It’s good to get the positive reinforcement, thanks! 

  • Anonymous

    This article shows that you are wrong:

    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/10/news/down-east/next-step-in-restoring-nursing-home-care-to-calais-is-exploring-options/

    Here is a quote from it:

    The closure of Atlantic Rehab caught the Calais community by surprise.
    First Atlantic’s certificate of need application for a new nursing home
    in Ellsworth — located 90 miles southwest of Calais — included mention
    of its plans to mothball its 39-year-old facility in Calais. That
    application was approved by DHHS regulators last fall, but didn’t become
    common knowledge in Calais until late January 2012. That news left Atlantic Rehab residents and their families perplexed by the uncertainty of the timing of the closure and the reality of a chronic scarcity of nursing home vacancies throughout Washington County.

    ——————-

    Your comment is unnecessarily rude and, frankly, juvenile.  It is an example of what I must put up with in here constantly when I try to speak in a civil tone and present evidence and arguments.

    BDN moderators have given up, it seems,on preventing rude comments like yours.  I think that is a sad testimony to the state of communication these days.

    I urge you and everyone else to raise the quality of the tone in here.

    • Anonymous

      It does not show that I am wrong.  It shows that DHHS and the Feds approved a new facility because the Feds approved the closure of the old one.  Where else would the residents have been placed if a new facility wasn’t to be opened.  

      • Anonymous

        DHHS did not have to approve, but they did.  Not only that, they failed to notify Calais of the approval for many months, creating chaos and confusion.  So, yes, DHHS is to blame, and that falls on the LePage administration. 

        So, don’t blame it on the Feds.  DHHS approved the process and sealed the closure.  It was cruel and nasty:

        “Portland-based First Atlantic Healthcare’s closure last month of its
        52-bed Atlantic Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in Calais displaced dozens of residents and cost 92 health care workers
        their jobs.”

        Calais is suffering terribly.  92 people lost their jobs.  The whole County is affected because the waiting lists for nursing homes are even longer.

        It’s another example of LePage allowing the weak to suffer while the rich (First Atlantic Healthcare) keep raking in profits.

        • Anonymous

          The Feds have to approve the closing because it pays the most dollars to the facility.  Even if the State didn’t approve the Feds would have overridden their decision.   The closing seal comes from CMS Boston Regional Office not State DHHS.  I think First Atlantic did justice by closing the facility due to its age.  

          • Anonymous

            You have no references at all for your claims.  I’ve supplied a reference.  In fact, the facility was not well-maintained, but that is the private owner’s fault.  They didn’t maintain it to save money.  And when they wanted to make even more money, they closed it–

            92 jobs lost.
            Nursing home residents dispersed all over the County, longer waiting lines for nursing homes in the County.

            Calais really suffered for this lost.  92 jobs in a small town.  I’ve made my case against greed and cruelty, supplied a reference, and I’ve even endured an insult from you, which was completely immature. 

            You haven’t shown the slightest bit of compassion or pity for the misery inflicted on the people of Washington County, and that, I think, speaks against your position, too.

            Please tell me how all this misery helps Mainers?  It is making the corporation richer, that’s all.

            Think about it .  All open-minded readers out there, please think about it what we are doing when we serve greed and the cruelty that goes along with it.

          • Anonymous

            Here’s your reference to the rules by the Feds:  Read Section L “Notice of Facility Closure of Nursing Home”
            Section 1128I(h) of the Social Security Act, as added by section 6113 of the Affordable Care Act specifies that nursing home administrators (NHA) meet stated requirements when a nursing home is closing. Specifically, the NHA must notify the State, CMS, long-term care ombudsman, residents of the facility, and legal representatives (or other responsible parties) 60 days prior to closure. The NHA must also ensure that the facility does not admit new residents and the facility must provide a plan for the transfer and adequate relocation of residents. Lastly, the Act requires that CMS impose CMPs against the NHA (up to $100,000) for failure to meet closure notice requirements as published as an interim final rule in the Federal Register in February 2011.In April 2011 an S&C Memo was issued to the State Survey Agency Directors highlighting the regulations of Section 6113 of the Affordable Care Act “Notification of Facility Closure” with a copy of the interim file rule.http://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Provider-Enrollment-and-Certification/CertificationandComplianc/Downloads/2012-Nursing-Home-Action-Plan.pdf

          • Anonymous

            How dare you present facts to Sprucedweller!
            That’s like showing garlic to a vampire and a completely unfair tactic.

    • Anonymous

      Companies have the right to close any building that belongs to them.  The State approved the opening of the new business  and documented the moving of the new.  Many homes are providing nursing facilities for the elderly in that area now and there is nothing stopping new ones from starting.
      Do you want the State to run nursing homes the way they do jails?

      • Anonymous

        So, even though 92 jobs were lost, and the nursing home residents were left with no place to go, and the entire County was negatively affected, including less people with money to spend in local economies, you think it is absolutely fine that a company, concerned only about its profits, wanted to pull out, and DHHS approved it. DHHS could have kept this nursing home open, but Lepage wanted to slash, slash, slash.

        Well, my view is that this is despicable and unethical.  And our society is going to fall apart if cruelty like this, and greed like this, come before people, elderly people too, many of whom worked hard all their lives.

        • Anonymous

          Really;  Residents were left with no where to go.  ALL the residents were placed…..  Just because they were not placed close to Calais DOES NOT mean the were NOT placed.

          • Anonymous

            It was not clear that all the residents would be placed.  It was chaos.  It brought pain.  A lot of these people are negatively affected by being moved away from loved ones.  You haven’t should any compassion.  92 jobs were  lost.  It was a major blow to Calais.  It was wrong and shows the failure of LePage’s strategy:  greed and profit over people.

          • Anonymous

            You want to know what my compassion is about this:  The families of these loved ones should step up and bring their members home to live if they can support the means and energy to do so and not put them in a facility so they don’t have to be burdened.  My compassion is they all have a roof over their head, food in their bellies and good care.  My compassion is I love the elderly.  Love their stories, their ability to look forward and not backwards and many have smiles on their faces when engaged in conversation.

  • Anonymous

    Good job, Governor.

  • Anonymous

     You are wrong in this matter – the Federal government did not dictate that this nursing home should be closed; in fact, it was run by a private entity that couldn’t make the home profitable. The costs of running the facility were greater than the reimbursements from DHHS, a STATE agency. Here’s the relevant quote:

    “First Atlantic CEO Kenneth Bowden said in April that the decision to
    close Atlantic Rehab was financial, with expenses far exceeding
    revenues. At some point, he also suggested that the property be acquired
    by the city or some other nonprofit entity because that would allow for
    higher levels of state reimbursement for resident care.”

    Mr. Bowden’s assessment that a nonprofit entity might fare better is dubious, as budget cuts to DHHS have cut back services in ways that are making even the most budget conscious NPOs out there struggle with staying afloat. These budget cuts to DHHS have a very real, profound impact on peoples’ lives, and the closing of this nursing home is just one more clear demonstration of that. Let’s not bury our heads in the sand and pretend the fault lies somewhere else; the blame falls to us as Maine citizens and to our elected representatives in the State Legislature and in the Executive branch, namely Governor LePage.

    • Anonymous

      Reimbursement by the State will be no higher in the new location.  The business made a business decision that they would have made even if the State disapproved a new location for them.  The State had no reason to disapprove the new location and no authority to prevent them from shutting down the old establishment.
      You want a welfare run state home like and orphanage for the elderly.

    • Anonymous

      The Federal Government has to give it’s final say as to whether or not it can be closed.

  • Anonymous

    The State did not have to approve the closing of the home.  DHHS not only approved the closing, it failed to notify Calais for many months.  This resulted in much less time to prepare.  

    Also, I again think the view that money (greed) trumps people is wrong-headed.  Look at Canada.  All their citizens can afford a doctor.  They are healthier than us, happier than us and they have a better economy. 

    My view is that human rights, including the right to healthcare, takes precedent over profit and the cruelty associated with a single-minded focus on profit. 

    There is no right “to the pursuit of happiness” if, when you get sick, as we all do, you cannot afford a doctor.

    Your view, it seems, and LePage’s view, is to say that if making profit hurts an entire town, actually, an entire County of Maine, so be it. 

    The tragedy in Calais is a straight up example of the wrong-headedness of putting profit over people in a society.  We should definitely shift.  All other countries in the free world, every single one, gives their citizens a guaranteed right to afford a doctor.  Strong welfare nations are the happiest in the world according to Forbes.

    That is what we should do.  Watching 92 jobs disappear in the poor town of Calais, watching the elderly infirm citizens of Washington Country suffer, and then just shrugging and saying, “Oh, it’s just business,” is totally wrong.

    • Anonymous

      Capitalism and Free Market principles is what made this country what it is in such a short time and the reason our dollar and not one of the currencies in communist and socialist societies is the world standard.  The only reason the countries you cite are even able to be as generous as they are is because we pay for the military might that protects their welfare state.

      • Anonymous

        Okay, your view is on the table and so is mine.  I disagree with you that every other free country in the world can have national healthcare because we are protecting them.

        And since you don’t consider it an insult, I will say to you what you said to me:  Pretend you live in the real world for just a second.

        • Anonymous

          OK, in the real world communism fails everywhere it is tried. 
          In the real world the only countries that can even partially afford to dabble in socialism must first be subsidized by our ability to provide for their military defense. 
          Take away our protection and all of those countries would need to spend their billions protecting themselves from the use of force by all of the very real threats here in the real world.  You wish for a socialist system I do not.  There are many out there you can choose to live in and I know Cuba is taking all comers.  I choose to live in a capitalist country and that is the system I live under.  Instead of changing what I have why don’t you move to one that will cater to your ideals and let my system alone?

          • Briney

            Yabb-dabba-do.   Love it when the tea party –  controlled GOP people start yelling “Commie” and every government operation is referred to as “Socialist.”

            Name callers and label stickers manage to keep a blind eye turned toward certain practices which are wholly endorsed,   totally federally  funded, and  gleefully accepted by the squatters under Washington’s Big Bubble.  No Socialism there – oh, no.

            Federal Medical Care for all of those charged with providing for the public, are pledged to kill a national health care reform plan – but – hands off their own.

            Can you imagine Romney or Ryan referring to the fantastic health care benefits provided to Congressional members and their families as “Socialism?”   Ridiculous.  It is taken as a simple gratuity granted those who were elected to serve their fellow countrymen.

            Regardless.   It is a Socialistic Health Care Plan – the best money can buy.  Taxpayer’s money – that is.  

            It’s a lot better than anything the rest of us 47 percenters have. Ryan is determined to kill Medicare and strangle Social Security, along with his pal – Romney.  Can you blame him?  Ryan and his family don’t have a care in the world when it comes to seeing the doc’.   Even without his Socialistic health care plan, he and his wife are financially well endowed, and don’t actually need it.   But what the heck?  Just let’s make sure the rest of the country gets a Ryan Gift Certificate, or, “Voucher” – to tide you over when you see the doc’. 

            The Congressional Health Care Plan is the best in the world.  But the tea party and its minion republicans are determined to cull that thing you have.  That Medicare and Co-Pay deal, along with Social Security you’ve contributed into all of your life. 

            Whilst Ryan and the rest of the well heeled Congressional dudes and their families get the very best – you will get less than less.  Think about the Congressional “Socialist” Health Care  Plan, when you stand in line for your pill(s), shots, Chemo, wheelchair and crutches.

            Oh, stop moaning.  Let ’em re-posses the house.

          • Anonymous

            I am as against all of these other perks as you are and that is usually the way socialist programs end up and why they don’t work.  The wealthy still get the best and the poors get the scraps.  Glad to see we agree in out opposition of this waste even if you I can’t seem to show as much hatred for those who worked hard to get wealthy as you do.
            As for Spruce he has admitted his beliefs so when I mention them to him I am not labeling him in anyway he would not already label himself. 
            As for your ideals, I would have to guess that with your attitude towards the wealthy you don’t like free market capitalism either.

          • Briney

            Everyone realizes and accepts the fact they are not going to be wealthy – as wealthy as Romney, King, or, Ryan.

            I did, a long time ago. So, I worked for corporations owned by millionaires.  I had a good life, was paid well, and worked hard.  

            Rebelling against people like Romney and Ryan is not hate.  As with many others, who are referred to as “that other 47 per cent,” I detest such snobbery.  Both Romney and Ryan have no need to work anymore.  They are rolling in dough. 

            So why should two men -and others – make it their primary goal to reduce a once proud Middle Class to poverty?  The avowed goals – if elected – are to kill reformed health care, and take away Social Security and Medicare.

            Not being rich, and never despising those who are, I do however dislike those rich enough to fend for themselves, yet greedily keep  their hands in the register funded by taxpayers.

            So be it with Ryan and the rest of the radical right.    Death to Medicare and Social Security.  The Ryans’ however are free to accept “Socialized” medicine, which he deplores, from the federal government.  The Congressional health plan is considered the best in the world. Fine. I’m happy. But rather than conjure up something similar for those not in such good financial straits – they want to kill whatever we have, whatever we have worked for and still contribute to.

            Fairness.  That’s all.  Pharmaceuticals are a multi-billion dollar business.  A plan to help make medication more financially feasible for those in need is being snapped with no consideration for the sick and the dying. 

            I’m all for free enterprise and the competitive spirit upon which it thrives.  Some will do better than others, thanks for a lot of assistance from those others – the 47 per centers.    

             

    • Anonymous

      Are you saying a business should be forced to stay open and lose money?  

  • Anonymous

    saying to me “Pretend you live in the real world for a second” is an insult, and inappropriate.  I am going to flag you.  Nothing is going to come of it.  BDN moderation has all but disappeared.   You’ll effectively be reinforced for being mean and petty, and others will copy you, and the insults will continue on and on.

    • Anonymous

      Saying pretend to live in the real world is not an insult when it comes to dealing with you, it is a statement that must be made in order to try to get a reasonable answer to any question from you.  The concept that money is not in endless supply to throw at all problems doesn’t seem to be something you can grasp.
      WE those you wish to take from, do not wish to have you take anymore.  So, starting with that premise as a fact and knowing that people who run a business do it to make money, otherwise why run a business?  Please attempt to solve the problem.  Becoming a socialist or communist country isn’t going to happen so try a real world solution.

      • Anonymous

        It’s an insult.  Everybody knows it is.  Give it up.

        • Anonymous

          It is no more an insult than it would be if I were to state that tend to be long winded or too enthralled by the fantasy of a workable communist system.  Everyone who has ever dealt with you on here know all of the statements are fact.  Does the truth hurt?  Sure, sometimes but that doesn’t make it an insult and since we are trying to live in reality it would be kind of you to do so as well.

  • Anonymous

    It’s an insult and you know it is.  You know it.  Readers know it. 

    I marvel at the fact that people in here will throw blatant insults at me and then deny they are insults.  It is pathetic.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, your view is on the table.  And my view is on the table.  I invited open-minded readers to draw their own conclusions.

  • Anonymous

    He’d quit if it were free with all expenses paid.

  • Anonymous

    If this truly were for all of the right reasons and he were trying to save the taxpayers money, then i would have to begrudgingly applaud him.  However, we all know the Kind of Maine.  He does nothing if it doesnt somehow bring attention to himself.  This will once again go national and he again will get his name acrossed the country.  He will lose his chance at re-election and use these types of things to run somewhere else.  He is not a stupid person, he is actually very bright.  Too bad he wasnt using those smarts to better the lives of the people that put him in office.

  • Jonathan Albrecht

    Typical of this arrogant, ignorant bully. You get from these group what you put in and the governor true to form gives nothing. When he meets real governors those with talent, political and administrative, he can’t stand the comparison.

  • Anonymous

    LePage says he doesn’t get anything out of the association with other governors and those associated with the NGA. Someone below rightly made the comment that learning from other’s experiences, how other governors do things, how similar problems Maine has might be tackled by thinking other gov’s are doing, would be a benefit probably worth the price…

    Not knowing exactly what goes on… the “lovey-dovey” description is NOT a very good explanation for Maine people to judge for themselves… so I guess we just have to trust LePage’s explanation… which really wasn’t anything…

    My gut feeling is that there is a lot that could be learned from other’s experiences and the expense is probably worth it. For someone who is so brash, rude, insulting, uncompromising (even when it is in his interest) and thinks the ALEC agenda he’s following is the word of god (mammon, in this case), and if anyone thinks it is NOT the ALEC national agenda hasn’t been paying attention, I can see why he’s not interested in other governor’s opinions or experience.

    This is probably a mistake. Nothing new to see here in all likelihood…

  • Briney

    No surprise.  Le Page merely continuing to hold up his end on one of  the  Tea Party’s major  ideological reforms – to dispense with government.  

    There is after all. little if anything this man would want to hear from other governors which would change his thinking about helping Maine and its people.

  • Briney

    Why not show some respect?    First – get the facts.  Second – no name twisting.  Almost four years have elapsed since President Barack Obama was elected.  Yet, you still have not learned how to spell his name.  

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