Comments for: King holds 12-point lead in Senate race in latest poll

Posted Sept. 27, 2012, at 3:25 p.m.
Last modified Sept. 27, 2012, at 5:57 p.m.

AUGUSTA | A new poll out Thursday shows independent Angus King holding a 12-point lead over Republican rival Charlie Summers in the race for Maine’s open U.S. Senate seat. In the poll, the first of the Maine Senate race conducted by Rasmussen Reports, King attracted the support of 45 …

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  • Please ask about the other three in the next poll…

  • RJ

    The Good Ol’ Boy just keeps on fooling some of the people all the time.  The age of Kings has come & hopefully gone.

    • Anonymous

      but it’ll come back unfortunately.
      most people vote with their emotions instead of with logic.
      king makes them feel good. 
      even though he’s as corrupt as they come.

      • Anonymous

         So true. They won’t even look at his record or the mess he left the state in. So sad.

        • Anonymous

          And so gramps, you’re going to be even grumpier on the night of Nov. 6th as you watch Slimy Charlie Summers go down in flames along with MittTwit RobMe and the TeaPubs in the Maine legislature.  Oh, poor old grumpy corporate toadie TeaFools.  They are going to have a very, very bad night come Nov. 6th.  And under all your grunting, you darn well know it.  That MittTwit.  He’s a pathetic JOKE.

          • Anonymous

             Please don’t hold back….let me know how you really feel. If you don’t want to look at his record, and the facts, fine. Believe his BS and vote for him. I survived his last eight years of
             incompetence. I’ll just sit back, collect my state pension and hope someday my grandchildren will be able to grow up and find a job in the state of Maine.

        • Anonymous

          And so some prefer to continue the mess in DC by sending yet another corrupt, snake-oil salesman. A direct consequence of uber-liberal Woodrow Wilson and his push for the 17th Amendment.

    • Anonymous

      Oh, poor 2nd-Charlie Summers (the first being that goofball in charge of the Maine TeaPubs).  His hacks’ stinky dirty tricks slimy ads just aren’t working enough.  King is a good man who will most likely win this election, and  Charlie the lying snake who tried to LIE about “voter fraud” and then got CRUSHED on the issue at the polls last year will go slithering back to his once again LOSER hole.

      • Anonymous

         Thank you for reminding Mainer’s why the democrats lost the last few elections.Also adding to them losing more.

  • Anonymous

    Good.  Angus is the smartest, most pragmatic & most experienced candidate.
    And he’s moderate like most of Maine.  Go Gus!

    • RJ

      Relevant yet seemingly irrelevant to those who blindly
      follow a King who is diametrically opposed to everything a true independent
      stands for.

      http://www.sss.gov/LOTTER8.HTM

      A direct link to Patten Pete’s reference about King’s patronizing desire to appeal to Maine Veterans & the curious circumstances that allowed him yet another deferment.
      Mainahs love the independent label yet so many walk in lemming lockstep for this guy who lines his pockets @ our expense. Chalk it up to the uninformed? I dunno. It is (almost) unbelievable that a thinking person could vote for this charlatan. The only reason he became an “independent” was when he realized that he couldn’t beat Joe Brennan (a real Democrat) back in 1994. King cobbled together a coalition of the hopeful. He left us w/a 1B
      deficit. He went on his RV tour around the country then came back to reap the $
      from the same policies that he sowed in Augusta. Dill & Summers @ least identify themselves as to who they are.
      Angus I wanna be King can not say the same.

      • Anonymous

        I guess I don’t understand the  1b deficit, states are mandated by law to have a balanced budget each year. They don’t have a printing press like the federal government does to solve problems. During Kings years as governor,  he reduced state workforce by over 1500 employees through the Productivity Realization Task Force.  Increased the Rainy Day Fund from $6.4 million in fiscal year 1995 to $144 million in fiscal year 2001. Reduced the state’s general obligation bond debt by over $150 million between fiscal years 1995 and 2003. Fully implemented Performance Based Budgeting. Completed substantial construction and capital projects that were creating a mounting infrastructure debt for Maine. Many were built with surplus cash, thus saving long-term financing costs. Improved the financial condition of the Maine State Retirement System by increasing the Actuarial Liability funding from 45% in fiscal year 1995 to 68% in fiscal year 2003. I believe King did pretty good for Maine. Maine took off during his 8 years as governor. Its hard not to see this, unless one would have been in Alaska during  1995 and 2003.  

        •  The whole country took off in those eight years.  It had nothing to do with Angus King.  What King did do was more than double Maine’s budget in those eight years.  He spent every nickel he got his hands on and did not return a penny to the taxpayers.  He left office with close to a billion dollar budget gap.  He left the State in a fiscal mess because he was and continues to be a free and liberal spender with no sense of fiscal sanity.  He’ll fit right in in Washington DC with the other brainless idiots we send there to spend a trillion dollars more than they take in. 

            http://angus2012.net/angus-king-spend-now-tax-later/

          • Anonymous

            Wow, you certainly are seeing the whole picture very clearly. Your negitive views tend to over whelm your positive views if there are any. If your views on this country had their way we would probably be burnt at the stake for not seeing your side of the story as gospel. Being an independant I see your glass as half full. The half full would be positive, the half empty would be negative. I guess completing substantial construction and capital projects that were creating a mounting infrastructure debt for Maine, with surplus cash, saving long-term financing costs, was not giving anything back to the taxpayer. Get real.

  • Anonymous

    12 points – King has fallen off quite a bit

    • Anonymous

      Ayn Rand, and her character John Galt, both vehemently hated god. 

  • Anonymous

    Steve Woods has already begun looking for housing in the DC area, I read somewhere. Seems a bit premature. 

  • Jake_OO7

    Creepy Charlie Summers has lost 3 straight elections.  Maine just does not like this out of stater.   Crawl back into Liepages lap charlie.    

    • Anonymous

      And his current position (which he shouldn’t still have) is not an elective position.

      • Not a general election. He was elected by the Legislature.

        • Anonymous

          attorney general, sec of state, and state treasurer should be elected by the people. 4 year terms just like the governor. then no one party can dominate

        • Anonymous

          I know.  That was my point.  There may be other states where the legislature appoints the SoS, AG, etc., but I’d prefer they’d be elected.

    • Angus King is from Virginia.

    • Anonymous

      And Slick King (millionaire lawyer from Virginia) is your idea of “good” out-of-stater?

  • Anonymous

    DILL get a few percent and Mr Summers is off to D.C. Vote Republican save our nation and state.

    • Anonymous

      Good luck with that.  People are finally waking up!   Angus and Obama will win by substantial margins.   I don’t understand how middle class folk think Romney or Summers is going to help them.  It is not the GOP way.   The party has moved so far right that most of their own can’t even stand them.   

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, at this point, people who donate to the RNC should just light their money on fire.  With this, and with Romney spending close to a billion dollars to get his butt kicked by Obama only slightly less than McCain did, it’s kinda sad (and bad managment!).

    • The trouble is that the NRSC is sitting on a pile of cash, and now that seats they thought they would take in Florida, Ohio and North Carolina are likely to go to the Dem candidate, they do actually have money to burn. And the Maine media market is really cheap comparatively – a 30-second spot during Jeopardy costs $400.

  • Patten_Pete

    *** **********How Angus King Ended Up In Maine *************

    How about how he doesn’t tell us his arrival in Maine allowed him to beat the draft?

    Both Angus King and Charlie Summers have stated they wish to get on the Armed Services Committee if elected.Summers served, King didn’t. Where is the part of King’s biography about how King took a legal aid job after law school in Virginia and with it got a near impossible occupational deferment so he wouldn’t be drafted like the less fortunate sons who were dying in Vietnam?

    How come you hide this part of your life, Angus?

    Where does he discuss that the members of his family were Democrats in elected office in Alexandria, Va., a suburb of Washington,D.C. Where does he state that his uncle Jack (Jack Ticer) of Alexandria went to work at the Armed Service Committee during the Vietnam war? Where does he therefore tell us his connections may have pulled strings for him so he could avoid military service?

    This is very important as Mr. King wants to get on Armed Services, now that the coast is clear and he can go to war from his armchair.

    King was born March 31, 1944 and graduated from law school in Virginia in 1969. This was the middle of the Vietnam War and there was a selective service lottery. The lottery drawing held December 1, 1969,determined the order in which men, born from 1944 through 1950, were called to report for induction into the military. The highest lottery number called for this group was 195; all men assigned that lottery number or any lower number,and who were classified 1-A or 1-A-O (available for military service), were called to report for possible induction.

    Angus King’s birthday drew a low lottery number of 30.The lottery numbers pulled for each birthday on December 1,1969 can be seen by googling:
    RESULTS FROM LOTTERY DRAWING – Vietnam Era 1970

    Occupational deferments were NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO GET. But voila, Angus King got one by taking a job at Pinetree Legal Assistance in Maine where he primarily worked on divorce cases. After his commitment there ran out,he was over 26 and no longer eligible for the draft. He also never did that kind of work again.

    FACT: That’s how he beat the draft and that’s how he ended up in Maine. With his uncle so close to the powers that be in Washington,D.C. and then his uncle working on the Armed Services Committee, it is basic common sense that this be pursued by the Maine media. How did Angus King get a next to impossible to get deferment from military service? 

    Again, he wants to play general from the safety of an armchair. So this is most relevant.

    • Anonymous

      One of the best post I have seen on BDN in a long time.

    • Wow this is huge you finally got the goods on one Independent that might be a “draft dodger”. However you fail miserably in not reporting that the reason this is huge is that MOST of the draft dodgers were the cowardly chicken hawk republicans, during the Vietnam conflict. You do know the difference between being a “chicken hawk” draft dodger and a regular draft dodger don’t ya?
       Well here is the list from back in the day.
      Prominent Republicans

      Representative Patrick McHenry, R-NC – did not serve. Saw fit to endanger American troops’ lives after a visit to Iraq by violating operational security and helping militias target their mortar attacks on the Green Zone.

      Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY – did not serve (1)
      Senate Assistant Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-MI – avoided the draft, did not serve.

      Senate Republican Conference Chairman Jon Kyl, R-AZ – did not serve.

      Senate Republican Conference Vice Chair John Cornyn, R-TX – did not serve.
      National Republican Senatorial Committee Chair John Ensign, R-NV – did not serve.

      House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-OH – did not serve.

      House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-MO – did not serve.

      House Republican Conerence Chair Adam Putnam, R-FL – did not serve.

      House Republican Policy Committee Thaddeus McCotter, R-MI – did not serve.

      National Republican Congressional Committee Chair Tom Cole, R-OK – did not serve.

      Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani – did not serve.

      Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney – did not serve in the military but did serve the Mormon Church on a 30-month mission to France.

      Former Senator Fred Thompson – did not serve.

      Senator John McCain – McCain’s naval honors include the Silver
      Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished
      Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so in 2000? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.

      Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert – avoided the draft, did not serve.
      Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey – avoided the draft, did not serve.
      Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay – avoided the draft, did not serve (1). “So many minority youths had volunteered … that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself.”
      Former House Majority Whip Roy Blunt – did not serve
      Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist – did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)

      Rick Santorum, R-PA, formerly third ranking Republican in the Senate – did not serve. (1)
      George Felix Allen, former Republican Senator from Virginia – a supporter of Nixon and the Vietnam war, did not serve. (1)Former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld – served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as an aviator and flight instructor. (1) Served as President Reagan’s Special Envoy to the Middle East and met with Saddam Hussein twice in 1983 and 1984.

      GW Bush – decided that a six-year Nat’l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he’s “been to war.” Huh?
      VP Cheney – several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, “had other priorities than military service”) (1)
      Former Att’y Gen. John Ashcroft – did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State

      Jeb Bush, Florida Governor – did not serve. (1)
      Karl Rove – avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.

      Former Speaker Newt Gingrich – avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
      Former President Ronald Reagan – due to poor eyesight, served in a noncombat role making movies for the Army in southern California during WWII. He later seems to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real thing.
      “B-1” Bob Dornan – avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
      Phil Gramm – avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student defermentsSenator Richard Shelby, did not serve (1)
      Senator Jon Kyl, R-AZ – did not serve (1, 2)
      Senator John Cornyn, R-TX – did not serve. (1)
      Senator Tim Hutchison, R-AR – did not serve (1, 2)

      Rep. Christopher Cox, R-CA, (formerly) fifth-ranking Republican in the House – did not serve. (1)

      Rep. John T. Doolittle, R-CA, sixth-ranking Republican in the House – did not serve.

      Rep. Mark Kirk, R-IL — his website claimed he served in Operation Iraqi Freedom; in reality, he had to correct the record.

      Representative Saxby Chambliss, Georgia – did not serve (1, 2), had a “bad knee” (yet somehow feels he has a right to attack Max Cleland’s patriotism)
      Rep. Randy Kuhl, R-NY – Did not serve. (1)
      Former Representative JC Watts – did not serve (1, 2)

      Jack Kemp, did not serve (1, 2)
      (was unfit because of a knee injury, though he heroically continued as a
      National Football League quarterback for another eight years – source)

      Former Vice President Dan Quayle, avoided Vietnam service, got a slot in
      the journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard when the unit was at
      150% capacity (at least he showed up for his duty, unlike GW) (1, 2)

      Eliot Abrams, did not serve (1, 2) (however, played a key role in subverting democracy in South America)

      Paul Wolfowitz, did not serve (1, 2)

      Former Representative Vin Weber, did not serve (1, 2)

      Richard Perle, did not serve (1, 2) (is the current bloodshed in the Middle East a direct result of his treasonous meddling in Clinton Administrstion foreign policy?)

      Douglas Feith, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy – did not serve. (1)

      Michael Bloomberg, did not serve (1, 2)

      George Pataki, did not serve (1, 2)

      Spencer Abraham, did not serve

      John Engler, did not serve (1, 2)
      Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) – website used to claim service as a “Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm veteran.” A current biographical website makes no such claim. In reality, was a National Guard lawyer who never left South Carolina during the Gulf War.
      Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-CA, did not serve (1)

      Rep. Darrell Issa, R-CA/49th, there were some problems with his service.
      Rep. John M. McHugh, R-NY – avoided the draft, did not serve (1)Rep. Todd Platts, R-PA – did not serve (1)

      Arnold Schwarzenegger, CA Republican Governor – went AWOL from his Austrian army base to enter a bodybuilding competitionSena
      George Will, did not serve

      Chris Matthews, Mediawhore, did not serve. (However, apparently served in the Peace Corps.)
      Bill O’Reilly, did not serve

      Paul Gigot, did not serve.

      Bill Bennett, Did not serve

      Pat Buchanan, did not serve

      Rush Limbaugh, did not serve (4-F with a ‘pilonidal cyst’ [see “The Rush
      Limbaugh Story” by Paul D. Colford, St. Martin’s Press, 1993, Chapter
      2: Beating the Draft.])

      Michael Savage (aka Michael Alan Weiner) – did not serve, too busy chasing herbs and botany degrees in Hawaii and Fiji

      John Wayne, did not serve

      Pat Robertson – claimed during 1986 campaign to be a “combat veteran.” In reality, was a “Liquor Officer.”

      Bill Kristol, did not serve

      Sean Hannity, did not serve.

      Kenneth Starr, did not serve

      Antonin Scalia, did not serve

      Clarence Thomas, did not serve

      Ralph Reed, did not serve

      Michael Medved, did not serve

      Charlie Daniels, did not serve

      Ted Nugent, did not serve
      Country Singer Toby Keith, did not serve. (1)Radio Host Phil Hendrie, did not serve. Senator Joe Lieberman – did not serve.
      There are more but you get my gist
      http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

      • Anonymous

        Wow, JohnR, is all I can say. You hit the nail squarely on the political head. Patten_Pete would do good to show some real facts before cutting off his nose to spite his face. Thanks for the great info. You definitely did your homework.

      • David Gregg

        I’m sure the Lib list is long to. They dodged everything in the 60’s. It’s what they all were about.

  • Anonymous

     “Reports founder Scott Rasmussen has built up a reputation for publishing surveys with results that lean Republican and are touted by Republicans” ~~~~~ BDN

    Rasmussen was als0 the most accurate in the 2008 election. Predicting voted outcome exactly.

    http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/

    • Anonymous

      There is much to criticize about Rasmussen’s methods. All polls are conducted within a 4-hour window, the person who answers the phone (even a child) is sampled, phones that are not answered are not called back, and much more. All of Rasmussen’s polls are done by computer; live interviewers are never used.  Land lines only, no cell phones.

      While on election day, Rasmussen has had some years that are better than others, the polls leading up to election day consistantly have a 3-4 pt Republican lean.  That goes back to 2000.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad to see that the BDN corrected the title of this article to reflect the truth vs. the print version, which is that this 12-point “lead” is a reference to a particular poll, not an actual reference to votes accumulated so far in this race.  Many people tend to forget that pollsters often have an agenda to promote a particular candidate, and to print an article that makes a poll equivalent to an actual vote tally is disingenuous and misleading.

  • Anonymous

    Good !  Go Angus !  Watch these horrid rotten TeaLYING TeaPublican toadies continue to anger Maine voters with their disgusting dirty tricks and slimy ads and then you will CRUSH Slimy Summers at the polls.

  • Dan Troop

    If King has a 12 point lead than this State is in more trouble than I thought!

  • Anonymous

    Slick works better than goodhair – so far anyway. That takes care of the huckster and the robot. Meanwhile, Dill, the bright, fair-minded middle class working woman seeking the seat held by another bright, fair-minded working woman has been written off:  too “lib,” too “enviro,” too…too “Cumberland county,” too normal in a game run by abnormalities?  

  • Anonymous

    Let us pray this is not true. King just played the system before and I believe that is what he will do again.

  • Doc

    He knows how to use the “Independent” brand in Maine to his advantage.

    As always, he is a self-server, even using the word “independent” for his  own interest in an attempt to become a US Senator.

    His election is true review of  whether the “Independent Maine” brand is still alive  in this poor state.

    This unctuous egotistic plutocrat is a study in “chutzpah”.

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