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  • Anonymous

    Romney made it crystal clear that he believes that Americans who don’t make enough money to pay federal income taxes and his fellow citizens who rely on Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, or other government programs are lesser people than he and his millionaires constituency. What’s amazing is that the right wing noise machine is able to get some of the people who Romney has no use for to vote for him.

    • Nat

      Read this about Hillary’s aide-Romney’s tape was cut for the liberal press to create what you are referring to-stated and se
      http://www.dirtyspendingsecrets.com/?utm_source=DirtySpending&utm_medium=email&utm_content=092412_RedState&utm_campaign=2012prospe e which individual is more incorrect. When you hear the cut section of the tape, you might see a different position by Romney.

      • Anonymous

        Absolute twaddle.  Here’s the quote again:

        “There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.”
        Romney went on: “[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

        I don’t know how you parse this into some left wing cut and paste conspiricy. The candidate’s words are all you should need to convince you that this guy doesn’t give a rat’s tuckus for 47% of the country.

        • Anonymous

          Maybe we should take a good look at all the
          Obama quotes and see how many times he
          was “misunderstood” or didn’t say something
          he said. Amazing how that works in a liberal
          media isn’t it?

          • Anonymous

            Your free to do so. It does not make Romney any less wrong.

        • Anonymous

           At no time in this speech did Romney say he did not care about the 47%.  That is a complete distortion of his words and makes assumptions about what he was thinking when he said it. 

          Remember the words of John F Kennedy, “And so, my fellow Americans:  ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.”

          Romney was simply pointing out that most of the 47% believe:  ask what your country can do for you—NOT what you can do for your country.   And that Obama supports that view.

          How about if based on what Obama has said I inferred that he does not care about the 53% who DO pay Federal Income taxes?  Sound pretty accurate to me….

          • Anonymous

            So–you believe that disabled veterans who don’t pay income tax, elderly people living on Social Security who don’t pay income tax, and working families trying to subsist on minimum wage are people who just take and never give to their country?

            According to the Tax Policy Center, “about half of those who owe no federal income tax are people whose incomes are so low that when standard income tax provisions  — personal exemptions for taxpayers and dependents and the standard deduction — are factored in, that simply leaves no income to be taxed. Those are people who earned less than about $27,000.

            “But that doesn’t mean those folks paid no taxes at all. Many of them paid payroll taxes, those taxes taken out of a paycheck by an employer to fund programs such as Social Security and Medicare. They also pay federal excise taxes, such as those on gasoline, and they may also pay state and local income taxes or property taxes.

            “So that’s half of Romney’s 46.4 percenters. The rest pay no federal income tax due to tax benefits and credits. Here’s the rest of the breakdown:

            “22 percent receive senior tax benefits — the extra standard deduction for seniors, the exclusion of a portion of Social Security benefits, and the credit for seniors. Most of them are older people on Social Security whose adjusted gross income is less than $25,000.15.2 percent receive tax credits for children and the working poor. That includes the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. The child tax credit was enacted under Democratic President Bill Clinton, but it doubled under Republican President George W. Bush. “The earned income tax credit was enacted under Republican President Gerald Ford, and was expanded under presidents of both parties. Republican President Ronald Reagan once praised it as “one of the best antipoverty programs this country’s ever seen.” As a result of various tax expenditures, about two thirds of households with children making between $40,000 and $50,000 owed no federal income taxes.”The rest ended up owing no federal income tax due to various tax expenditures such as education credits, itemized deductions or reduced rates on capital gains and dividends. Most of this group are in the middle to upper income brackets. In fact, the TPC estimates there are about 7,000 families and individuals who earn $1 million a year or more and still pay no federal income tax.”

          • Anonymous

            Bollocks. Your contention that “most of the 47% believe ask what your country can do for you—NOT what you can do for your country” is again classifying the hard working poor and elderly who make subsistence wages as leeches. Your wrong, and so is your candidate. 

  • Anonymous

    Not all those who do not have are at fault. However all one needs do is drive behind the Machias high school and you can very quickly see that there are a stunning amount of folks living on the dole who COULD be working. Kind of like the baby ticket. You have a babay out of wedlock or in some cases while married you get everything handed to you. Unlike those of us who worked to provide for our kids. Those of us who did nto buy the best car or the best tv so we coudl give our kids what thye needed. So many of us older folks did fine with no welfare of any type.

    • Anonymous

      The most politically damning part of Romney’s commentary was not the standard “welfare queen” schtick. It was his disdain for those in that 47% (working poor, Social Security and Medicare recipients, deployed military, etc…) who are usually not lumped into the catagory. The number is just too big to be used as a dog whistle on working class conservatives about those undeserving “others”.  It includes people who work for a living.

      • Anonymous

        There are people who NEED help. We all agree on that that I would think. My main issue is those who use not just welfare but all the “programs” to live off. They do not even try. I have meet far to many young ladies who during high school already know all the people to contact when they get “in the family way” to recive all they will need to live off. I also know of many folks who are on all kinds of “programs” like clam diggers ( not all of them ) who work maked a few hundred bucks a tide but get all kinds of of welfare like free oil, healthcare and so on meanwhile they have enough money to buy nice new big 4wd trucks and toys like 4 wheelers for there yard.

        When welfare started every area had minitors who would check in on those getting it at least weekly to ensure they where looking for employment and where not cheating.

        Helping someone when they are down is a good thing. ? Supporting a person who refuses to try is not.

        • Anonymous

          Again. Please read my post above. Romney was not just talking about “welfare queens”. It’s why he’s wrong.

    • Anonymous

      A notable exception to an older person who didn’t need welfare was Romney’s father:

      “In a 1962 video interview Mitt Romney’s mother, Lenore Romney opens up about her husband’s modest  beginnings and his time on “welfare relief.”

      “…The interview was given on behalf of her husband, George, who was then making his first run to be Michigan’s governor… the interviewer asked Mrs. Romney how her husband could relate to ordinary working-class people: “There are those who say that since he’s a man of considerable means, he really  doesn’t care about people.”

      “Lenore  Romney responded “You know, we’ve only owned our home for the last few years. He was a refugee  from Mexico. He was on welfare relief for the first years of his life.”

      One of many copies of the video of this interview can be found at http://samuel-warde.com/2012/09/video-romneys-mother-husband-received-welfare-relief/

      Like many conservatives, Mitt Romney is certain that welfare is bad WHEN OTHER PEOPLE NEED IT. When you or someone in your family needs it, welfare is necessary and good.

      • Anonymous

        Ahhh but let us not forget at that time “welfare” was but a loan. When you went back to work you had to REPAY what you had recived.

        • Anonymous

          Please provide the source for your statement that paying back welfare benefits was ever required.

  • Anonymous

    The rich don’t pay taxes and the poor don’t pay taxes. That leaves the middle class and the dim wits in Washington allowed all those jobs to be shipped over seas, for fun and profit. Now there is no one paying any taxes! lol. So we slash social programs and point fingers. Mitt’s solution? The poor need to pay more! lol. Big surprise that this would be his solution. It would be laughable if he wasn’t serious.

  • Anonymous

    I think we all know that Mitt wouldn’t have said those things if he thought he was being videotaped. He was directing these comments towards the audience he was speaking to, uber-rich republicans, not the general population. These are the people who will give big bucks to Mitt and his campaign. So of course he’s going to say what they want to hear, to pander to them. Bottom line is, it was a performance he was putting on. I think that’s what disturbs people most about the whole incident. Someone who aspires to the presidency is supposed, at this point, anyhow, to put away these kinds of behaviors, and at least act as if he is concerned with everyone. That is why this is so damning for Romney… if you can’t say something publicly, Mitt, you shouldn’t be saying it at all. That’s probably a good rule of thumb for everyone, but it’s especially true for someone who is running for president.

    • Anonymous

      Aside from the garbage Romney was spewing, I would hope as well that we wouldn’t elect a candidate that said such completely different things depending on the room. It might be a fine line at times, but there’s a difference between tailoring a speech and lying about your position on an issue to get elected.

  • Anonymous

    Those that are pulling the wagon know EXACTLY what he was talking about which is why Romney is now leading obuma by 14 points and climbing among middle class voters…You libs may get your panties in a bunch over it but for those out front pulling the wagon it is reasonating…

    • Anonymous

      I feel certain that Romney supporters do indeed know what he meant–he was making a veiled reference to people of color. If he can keep his white supporters assuming that only black people and Hispanics use the social safety net, they will remain eager to destroy it, as they’re convinced no harm will come to THEMSELVES.

    • Anonymous

      You must be the horse with the blinders. Haw.

    • So, what you’re saying is that you’re a greedy, hateful jerk who despises those less fortunate than you? ‘Cause that’s what I’m getting out of your comment. 

    • Anonymous

      The 47% made that wagon and pull it.

      You want to do something for them?

      Raise the minimum wage so they make enough money to pay taxes.

      Yessah

  • Anonymous

    Wake up and be real. There is no doubt who Romney
    was referring to and he is right…..the people who would
    have to find a job definitely will vote for the food stamp
    pres. Romney wasn’t talking about the people who EARNED
    social sec or really disabled people or someone who is a disabled
    vet. Many KNOW who he was referring to. He was referring to
    the people who think Obama is giving them free money from
    his stash.   

    • Anonymous

      Romney was talking about close to half of all Americans.

      He made no distinctions between people not paying taxes who are disabled, in the military, elderly, etc. and those who could work but choose not to.

      He fully intends to destroy the social safety net for everyone–and that includes making sure that disabled people, people in the military, and the elderly are harmed right along with the people who don’t merit assistance.

    • Anonymous

      Well you have to jump those people in to get to 47%. If you are only using the people you are talking about its not going to be 47%

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, he’ll have to include a few people in Romney’s income bracket as well since some of them don’t pay income taxes either.  

        Unsurprisingly, Romney thinks his effective tax rate is entirely fair even though it’s lower than mine and he has 100 times the income.

    • Anonymous

      Wrong again. Romney said 47% of the country were asking for a handout. 47% of the country are not “welfare queens”.

  • Anonymous

    I find it ironic that Obama is polling just at, you guessed it, 47%  !!!!

    • Anonymous

      Yes, he certainly has our family’s votes–our disabled adult daughter (who works part-time but earns too little to pay income tax), my retired Vietnam Vet husband (who cares about active duty and retired military people whose incomes are so low they pay no income tax), and this slacker Grammy who actually hopes to eventually stop working 50-hour weeks and collect Social Security. Romney despises all of us who are or one day may be in that 47%. The feeling is mutual.

  • Anonymous

    Romney is a perfect example of the psychotic state of what used to be the Republican Party. Their only hope is serious therapy for this apparently permanent delusional state of psychosis. Romney should in all haste put a cork on the end of his fork before he sticks it in his eye and hurts himself cuz he’s well past done.

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