Comments for: Study names Bangor, Portland, Lewiston on least diverse cities list

Posted Sept. 10, 2012, at 7:12 a.m.
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BANGOR | A study from Brown University that scores metro areas based on diversity has listed Maine’s top three cities as some of the least diverse areas in the United States. The Bangor, Portland-South Portland-Biddeford and Lewiston-Auburn areas all were listed in the bottom 25 metro areas in the …

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  • Anonymous

    I hope the lack of diversity continues! These enjoy the same lack of diversity and are safe places to live.  
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/10-most-peaceful-states_n_849768.html#s264561&title=1_Maine 

    • Jessica Anderson-Wade

      Yeah, because only non-white people keep crime rates low.  I am sure the other places on that list, like DC also only have white people…  Way to perpetuate stereotypes.

      • What?

        BTW sometimes stereotypes are correct.  The prison system in the U.S. (a country with a population that is majority caucasian) is 80% of minority.

        • Anonymous

          I think your 80% number is a lie.

          However, around 9 in 10 of those incarcerated are males. Following your bigotry…I mean…logic, we should avoid men?

          • Anonymous

            they already do. that’s why it’s so hard to find women in these parts. lol

        • Anonymous

          A lot of people would argue that the reason for this is that if a caucasian and a minority are caught commiting the same crime, the minority is much more likely to be dealt with harshly. 

      • Anonymous

        Umm, DC isn’t on the list of places in the article czylane posted.  The Washington referred to in the article is Washington State not DC.

        • Anonymous

          The Washington listed on the Brown study does include DC, along with Alexandria, Arlington and other communities within that metropolitan area -one comprised of communities in DC,VA,MD and WV.

          • Anonymous

            The Huffington Post article that czylane posted does not have Washington, DC on it.  Jessica replied to czylane’s post that referred to that specific article.

    • Anonymous

      Safety is but one consideration when weighing quality-of-life issues. Yes, the crime rate is lower here, but so are learning opportunities.

      While many see this article in terms of racism, I certainly don’t. Multicultural pluralism in America means that many ethnicities co-exist, some in integrated areas, others not. Being exposed to many different social mores, customs and histories is an enrichment known as “cosmopolitanism.” It is obvious from the many narrow-minded comments on this board that Maine is sorely lacking this quality. Some of these comments might as well say “I’m an ignorant redneck and proud of it.” Sometimes I am ashamed of my home state. And spare me the “well move away” comments. I would rather fight for positive change than run away or bury my head in the sand.

      No matter where one goes in the world, one would do well to remember this: People are people are people. No race or creed of individual is better or worse than another. We all require food, water, oxygen, love. Those who believe otherwise need to grow up.

      • Anonymous

        while it might be a good idea in some places, in others all it does is ruins and destroys what once was a great culture.

        let’s take france for instance. 
        they had their own culture, 
        great wine, famous cheeses and breads, art, freedom, etc.
        now what do they have? 
        because of liberal thinking, their culture has been destroyed, and is now replaced with the 2 cult religions of liberalism and islam.

        • Anonymous

           AncientLegacy…you are proving my point! There are millions of “liberal thinking” people and millions of Islamists. Whether or not you like it, it is reality. Rather than pass judgment (“all it does is ruins and destroys what once was a great culture”), why not accept the fact that it takes all kinds to make the world go round? Accepting others without prejudice is certainly a trademark of being cosmopolitan.

          • Anonymous

            when you go to france, what do you expect to see?
            you go there for the culture, because it’s different.
            same with spain, or england, or germany,
            you go there for the things that make those countries unique.
            you don’t go there to see muslims and mosques everywhere.
            if you wanted to see that you could visit iraq or egypt, or any other intolerant islamic country.
            it amazes me that you can’t see that.

          • Anonymous

             No disrespect intended, AncientLegacy, but I don’t get your point: “when you go to france, what do you expect to see? you go there for the culture, because it’s different.”

            Do you honestly think these nations and their cultures exist to meet your expectations? If you’ve ever studied science in a serious manner, you must have learned that life itself–human and otherwise–thrives on biodiversity. Without diversification, species would become extinct, due to lack of  a vital gene pool. Indeed, Darwin himself pointed out that those who best adapt to changes will survive best. Cultures are the same way. No culture exists in a vacuum. American culture is an amalgam of many many world influences. With the advent of technology, the whole planet is becoming connected in countless ways. Cultures that close their doors and refuse to assimilate others (North Korea is a good example) are falling behind.

            So we should welcome cosmopolitanism…not complain that it is somehow diluting our ideas of authenticity. If the change is real, then it IS authentic…whether in France, the U.S. or any other place. Regardless of what they believe or what language they speak or what color their skin, people are the same–they eat, drink, breathe, live and die. No sense to judge it or fight it or reject it. Right?

          • Anonymous

            so the answer is to make everything the same?
            to take away everything that makes people and places unique?

          • Anonymous

            No…making everything the same is homogenization, which is the opposite of biodiversity.   The gene pool in America is strong because we have a multitude of nationalities to draw from. That’s what I mean by assimilating all cultures. it’s a GOOD thing, not something to be feared or rejected. And it’s inevitable. Despite Adolph Hitler’s beliefs, there are no  “pure” races today. Biology has seen to it.

          • Anonymous

            “That’s what I mean by assimilating all cultures. ”
            that’s all well and good IF the people that you invite to your lands are willing to assimilate into your culture and add to it.
            not detract from it and try to make it into the culture they fled from.

          • Anonymous

             I agree. It has to be a natural occurrence, not forced.

          • Anonymous

            Really???  The natives (excuse the spelling here); Wabanakis, Pequots, Sioux, Lakota, Cherokees, Seminoles, Hopis, Navajos, Arapahoe, Blackfoot, Comanche, Dakota, etc. (look them up, they are all separate tribes with their own unique cultures)..ok, are you still with me?  So according to your thought process, it’s ok if the immigrants are invited to come?  What happened here then?  What happened in Africa to those tribes?  What happened in Australia and other societies??  Did they invite the Europeans?  Nope…and the Europeans trashed and ruined THEIR societies…uninvited.

          • Anonymous

            400 years ago….
            get over it.
            and look what we’ve built.
            if it weren’t for our ancestors, america would still look like it did 400 years ago.

          • Anonymous

            Why waste your time talking to AncientLegacy…he ain’t gettin’ it my friend.

          • Anonymous

            this isn’t about biodiversity.
            biodiversity is essentially adding to the gene pool.
            this is cultural diversity that we’re speaking of.

          • Anonymous

            My point is that the two are analogous. Nobody exists in a vacuum. Why fight the influence of other ethnic groups? It’s not like some groups are crime free…in all cultures there are good people and bad. Maine could use an influx of people with different life experiences and outlooks. I think it’s dangerous to assume anyone who isn’t a WASP must be a drug-using welfare leech. We have seen that there are plenty of Maine people involved in these activities. Don’t fear change, AncientLegacy, it is natural, necessary and inevitable.

            I think the chief ideological difference between a conservative and a liberal is that conservatives believe that no change at all (preserving the status quo) is better than a change for the worse. Liberals believe that preserving the status quo arrests progress. Sometimes we have to take risks and fail before we move ahead.

          • Anonymous

            What do you think the natives here thought when the “all-mighty whites” showed up on their shores and RUINED their culture, their language, their customs…and infiltrated it with their religions, their foods, their architecture, their style of raising their kids…it’s the exact same thing… it’s what our ancestors did to those who were already here.  Why?  Looking for a better life and an opportunity…and they brought pieces of themselves with them.  Is that all bad?  I suspect you’re quite close minded and uncultured by the things you say.

          • Anonymous

            4 centuries ago.
            get over it.

          • Ben

            “get over it.”

            Wow.

            Well, racists aren’t really known for their human decency, are they?

          • Anonymous

            Great idea! 

            How about beginning that notion with the folks who bombed, and continue to bomb, us? You know, the Religion of Peace!

          • Anonymous

             Obviously you prefer war. To each his own, I guess.

          • Ben

            Around 2,600 Americans were killed in the 9/11 attacks, and around 1000 more have since died from illness resulting from breathing in the toxic dust from the Towers’ collapse.

            American and coalition forces have killed between 20-30 thousand Afghan civilians since 2001. 

            The war in Iraq killed over 1 million Iraqis. 

          • Anonymous

            They’re making the world go round in an interesting way in Saudi Arabia. I, as a woman, am not entertaining the idea of moving there anytime soon.

          • Anonymous

            But the issue is diversity: what if they moved here? Would you welcome them to Maine? Befriend them? Hate them?

        • Anonymous

          How sad it is that you think like this.  Koufax8 is right; might as well spare the commentary and post, “I’m a redneck and a bigot with a myopic view of the world…and (sadly) proud of it.”

          • Anonymous

            have you been to France?
            or Switzerland? 
            I have.

            You should see what’s happened there.

          • Ben

            I’ve been to France. I met native French people, black French people, Arab French people, Chinese students studying abroad, Mexicans, a Greek, a few Brits, and a French Jew. All of them were friendly, wonderful people. 

            Anyone who says that diversity is a plague on society is an ignorant, cowardly fool. 

      • Anonymous

        I have lived in 11 countries and have extensively traveled in dozens more. Many times I have been the minority and I have been from uncomfortable to being assaulted. People are people and I find most don’t like those that do not look and behave like themselves.

        • Anonymous

           And I’m saying that hating others because they are different than you is wrong.

          • Please add “In my opinion” I find nothing wrong with wanting to be with people like yourself.

          • Anonymous

            Fine: IN MY OPINION, hating others because they are different than you is wrong.

            Does your bigotry feel better?

          • Anonymous

            Uh oh, please don’t take this the wrong way, but that’s exactly the kind of anti-diversity opinion that some readers consider to be “racist”. 

            Do you think you’re a racist?

          • Anonymous

            I hate people because they’re a bunch of violent, lazy, welfare leeches that come to this country and state to live off the system that we pay into.

          • Anonymous

            Is your pointy white hat, torch and rope right next to you while you type this stuff, or do you leave it in your closet?

          • Anonymous

             Where in my post does it say I hate any group?

          • Anonymous

            I responded to your post which contained this:  “People are people and I find most don’t like those that do not look and behave like themselves.”

            This was your observation…I merely said that those people (who don’t like others whoa re different than themselves) were wrong. Why are you personalizing it?

        • Anonymous

          What a coincidence.  There’s that “people are people” thing again. 

          It pops ups all over the place when people talk about diversity.

      • Anonymous

        “People are people are people.”  That’s a very profound and original thought.  I think I’ll write it down and keep it.

    • Anonymous

      It’s attitudes such as this that prohibit diversity…….all diversity,   such as new construction, new business,  new jobs,  new people…….on and on..     America has always been, and will always be a nation of immigrants.     For instance CZylane……….I’ll bet your ancestor’s  migrated from somewhere,   prove to me that you are a native american and I’ll shut up,  other than that,  I suggest that you are …..a racist.    

  • Anonymous

    And what are the advantages to being more diverse ? More homeless, more welfare recipients, crime, special programs…what ?

    • Anonymous

      No welfare recipients in Washington or Aroostook counties for sure.  Yup, you’re right white people are incapable of being part if such ‘problems’.

      • Passadumkeagah

         Are you answering, or simple reacting to the poster’s question? Sure it was inflammatory, but why not give an answer to the core question, rather than adding to the “noise” with a sarcastic comeback? (You know – bring a little “intelligence” to the conversation). I would honestly like to hear an intelligent reply to the question that has some content to it – because I’m undecided at this point, and want to learn more (unless you’re only here to argue. In that case, disregard).

        • Anonymous

          The noise is the bigotry that somehow if you’re not white all you’ll have to contribute is an increase in entitlement spending. 

          • Anonymous

            detroit
            atlanta
            oakland (california)
            flint michigan,
            philly, 

            what do those cities have in common?
            extremely high crime rate
            and what else do they have in common?
            ….
            Anyone?
            any of you liberals want to take a guess?

          • You forgot East St. Louis (Illinois) Patterson, Newark & Camden (New Jersey) Lawrwence and Springfield Massachusetts. Compton (California) and the homocide capitol of the USA Miami Florida.

          • Anonymous

            I’m not a liberal, but may I have a stab at it…….the Negro population perhaps??????

          • Anonymous

            i was actually going to say “democrats” 
            but you might have a point.

          • Ben

            “Negro”?

            Your terminology is about fifty years out of date, as is your racist attitude.

          • Anonymous

            Why didn’t you add NYC?  Or Santa Fe, NM, or Austin, TX…those cities have a high rate of diversity…so does San Francisco.  And, they’re pretty highly populated which of course brings more diversity.  And btw, are you aware that proper nouns (those that name SPECIFIC persons, places, and things) require a capital letter?  ….hmmmmm…..are you also aware that a lack of education and a lack of understanding and tolerance of diversity go hand and hand?  I know you have one of these qualities…just sayin’.

          • Anonymous

            Not enough diversity?

          • Anonymous

            Well, most of those cities’ economies are in the tank, for starters.

        • Anonymous

          Did you read all the posts??  Koufax8 has made some very informed points towards diversity…a minor one being “How very boring life would be if we were all the same.”  If you like being only with people of ‘your kind’…well, you’re in the right state.

          • Anonymous

             Thank you for supporting my viewpoint, nonalee. It really freaks me out how closed-minded many of our neighbors are. This just proves my original point–we should welcome  folks to Maine who might bring a more open-minded approach to life.

            This is what happens when two political parties get a stranglehold on a democratic republic–they stifle dissent. So instead of a nation of free-thinkers, we get ideologues who believe the response to everything is either “you’re too liberal” or “you’re too conservative.” But life is seldom that black or white, and the ability to think for oneself on an issue-by-issue basis is more important than ever. Too bad there are so few free-thinking individuals. Instead, we get people blindly subscribing to two opposite platforms, both of which are becoming more alike daily. Scary.

      • Anonymous

        I love it!  GREAT ANSWER!

    • Anonymous

      More chances for democrats to fill their pockets from the local public treasury while “advocating” for minorities and the poor.

  • Taylor Pomroy

    seriously? born and raised in bangor, im currently going to college in the midwest. my roommate had never seen a black person before going to college. and im from one of the least diverse areas?? brown really needs to check its facts.

    • Anonymous

      “metro”, Taylor…

    • Henderson bobby

      Is your roommate from the county? I dad never saw a black man till he went to Korea lol.

  • Anonymous

    Lewiston? least diverse?
    when was this study done? 1998?

    lewiston has the most “diversity” and “multi-culturalism” in the whole state!
    which is sad, because it’s really gone downhill…

    • Anonymous

      The survey only counts “metro” areas.  This ain’t Jersey.

    • Anonymous

      I was thinking the same thing!

      • Anonymous

         I don’t think it’s because of the diversity.  It was downhill loooong before it became ‘diverse’….

        • Anonymous

          I commented that I agreed with thinking that Lewiston was pretty diverse. 

    • Correlation does not imply causation.

  • Anonymous

    Good.

    “Bangor was listed at No. 5, Portland-South Portland-Biddeford at No. 11 and Lewiston-Auburn at No. 25.”

    I mean BAD! I read the acrticle wrong. I thought it said we scored well and had a lot of diversity. Sorry folks. I love diversity. Really, really, I do.

    • Anonymous

      Wow. I hope you’re not serious with this comment. 

  • Anonymous

    Great, hope it stays that way!

  • Anonymous

    Just and FYI, diversity doesn’t lead to crime, drug use and violence. Poverty does. As can be clearly seen currently in all Maine cities.

    • Anonymous

      there are plenty of places in maine that are below the poverty line, yet crime is seldom or non-existent there.
      please explain that.

      • Anonymous

        Population density. A poor city is going to have more crime than poor rural areas.

        • Anonymous

          yes and no.
          there are again, plenty of cities that are very poor, but aren’t plagued by the crime rate of any of the cities i’ve listed.

          • Anonymous

            There is a direct correlation between poverty, population density and crime. Race has nothing to do with it. It’s not hard math. 

      • Anonymous

        Really?  Where?

      • Anonymous

        Because Crackalacka is right…crime stems from poverty, not being of a different race.  Otherwise they’d be no crime in Washington County, Piscatiquis County, Dexter, Millinocket, Newport, etc.  Why don’t you think before words come flying onto the computer…might make you look a wee bit smahtah deah Mainah.

  • Anonymous

    Why is THIS news??   Maine and Vermont are the 2 most wonder bread states there are.  Sad but true.

    • Anonymous

       why is that “sad” ?  something we do wrong? something we have control over?…..might be a fact, but not sad or wonderful…just the way it is….

      • Anonymous

        Diversity is a good thing- I didn’t say anyone did anything ‘wrong’ I will just say my time at college where we had people from different ethnicites and cultures and countries was amazing.

        • Passadumkeagah

          Please give us some examples of how “diversity” has enriched this area. Enlighten those of us who are not necessarily “racist”, but just aren’t aware of how the admittedly scant “diversity” has made the Bangor area a better place to live for all. Thank you. (Sincerely).

          • Jessica Anderson-Wade

            An open mind willing to look at and think about new ideas would be a good place to start.  You don’t get much in the realm of “new” if you have the same old thing, day after day, year after year.

        • Anonymous

          You are cordially invited to go back there.  Don’t let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.  Buh-bye.

        • Anonymous

          Why was it amazing, and what college did you go to?

      • Anonymous

        If you have a problem with someone saying this is sad, then do you also have a problem with the comments that talk about this being an amazing and good thing? 

        • Anonymous

           did not say I had a problem with that did I?
          I was  just questioning why something we have no control over is “sad”…like it is something wrong with Maine. Diversity is a good thing, just something we have no control over…..
          I would not dignify the comments about it “being an amazing and good thing”…stupid comments

    • Anonymous

       I agree this is not news — but these are the most ‘diverse’  cities in the state.

    • Anonymous

      Thank God for snow and cold weather.

  • Anonymous

    Perfect!

  • Anonymous

    So,what are we suppose to import people to a climate or area they may not like. Look at the popluation of Maine. Another waste of money on a report.

    • Anonymous

      Yep the population of Maine is old and waiting to go.

  • Anonymous

    Lot of racism in this comments. Very sad and unfortunate. 

    • Anonymous

      Incredibly sad. 

    • I don’t hear “racism” I hear people interested in finding answers.  Tell me this.  If one race does indeed commit more crimes than another is it “racist’ to mention this?  Why does the US prison systen house 80% minorities when the country is majority white?  Are all these folks in jail because of a racist justice system?  That would include the police who arrest (I might entertain that they are racist) but also Judges, juries and lawyers too? 

      Please tell me there is a reason for all this.  You CAN change my mind…. but…. only with facts.

      • Anonymous

        Not relevant to anything. There are racist comments on here whether you want to admit it or not. Quit veiling what you’re trying to say by posing the question to me. You changed the subject to crime, so you tell us what you’re trying to suggest. 

        • You are insulting.  I never “veiled” anything in my life.  I did NOT change the subject to crime.  look at the time of my post as opposed to others mentioning crime. 

          It is a point that when minoriey and majority populations live together there is more violence, crime, and distrust.  Human behavior is like that, and a bunch of insulting know-it-alls are not going to change that no matter how nasty and insulting they get.

          • Anonymous

            You did change the subject. Why did you bring up crime with your phony statistics? 

            If you think it is fine to bring crime into this, then explain why it’s okay to be racist, but not sexist. After all, let’s pretend you made up 80% statistic is true — 90% of those incarcerated are men. That must mean we have a man problem, not a non-white problem. We should be avoiding men. Right? That’s what you were trying to imply, right? 

            If not, correct me. Tell me what you were trying to do in highlighting crime in a discussion about diversity? If you’re so innocent, fine. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. 

      • Anonymous

        because of liberalism.
        it’s only racism if it’s whites saying or doing something against a “minority”
        it’s only sexism if it’s male vs female,
        it’s only domestic violence when the perpetrator is male,
        it’s only religious discrimination if it’s christianity vs something else.

        Liberal logic.

        • Anonymous

          No, that’s just your ignorant, presumptive logic. 

          • Anonymous

            It would appear you just made Ancient’s point…

          • Anonymous

            He doesn’t have a point. He has baseless sweeping generalizations. 

          • Anonymous

            Yes, you are right…women commit domestic violence (though not as often as men obviously)…blacks are also racist towards whites, as they are towards Hispanics and Asians…and vice versa if you lived somewhere else where you weren’t the majority.  But since AncientLegacy must be a white male, he carries “The White Man’s Burden”…poor thing…maybe that’s why he’s so rigid and Archie Bunker-ish.  I think it would be fun to see him having dinner with Mahatma Ghandi and Nelson Mandela.

      • Henderson bobby

        When an upper middle class white boy dose a crime he is much more likely to get away with it or not be sentenced to jail for as long. That being said it can not explain the 80% number.  Even here in Maine the rich white boys do almost as much crazy stuff as the poor boys but look who is in jail?

        • Anonymous

          I don’t think you’re allowed to call anyone a “boy”, but I don’t have the latest Progressive Dictionary, so am only guessing on that.

        • Anonymous

          Exactly!  That’s what I said…even before reading your post.  I’m glad someone else sees this ;-)

      • Anonymous

        I think you left out the “unwed birth rates” as well.

        • Anonymous

          That’s one area where whites are catching up very fast.  If you doubt it, read the crime news in the BDN and any story involving young, lower-class, white girls and women with children.

    • RJ

      Any “racism” is inherent in the survey itself. “Diversity?” Why “measure” such
      a thing? Is it a measurement of being “diverse?” More realistically, it is an
      illustration of DIVISION. Not sure why the left focuses so much on division
      instead of inclusion. You seem to love the hyphenated American thing…

      • Anonymous

        No, it’s not. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage and who you are. Do you screech in the face of our Governor because he identifies as a Franco-American? 
        It’s not divisive to be proud of who you are. Don’t try and turn that into a dirty thing.

        • RJ

          Ahhhh, My bad. Didn’t look to see the post name before I responded.
          Obviously a wee lass so full of passion w/the accompanying temperament of the
          same w/out the real life experience or ability to think critically.

          Nevermind….

          • Anonymous

            Oh right, the critical thinking required to be a racist. Bug off. 

  • Jessica Anderson-Wade

    Because white people never commit crimes–domestic violence (leading to murder), pharmacy robberies, standoffs, murders in general, infant deaths, stabbings, and the list could go on.  I find the crime committed in the area, that is seen on the news and in the newspapers, to be far outnumbered by white people as the criminals.

    • Because Maine is mostly a caucasian state.  You sound racist

      • Jessica Anderson-Wade

        I sound racist by calling out the actual racist who started this thread?  Right.

        • Racists tend to treat races differently.   A person who refuses to acknowlege that less diverse areas have fewer crimes might be considered racist.  In point of fact the lack of diversity (seems) by the numbers to lead to fewer crimes.  Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, continually vie for lowest number of crimes (Nationwide) they are also the least diverse States.

          I would be willing to entertain another reason for this, as in cold people used to lots of snow do not commit as many crimes as hot sweaty people who live south of New England.  Of course then you must adress the miniscule crime rate in Japan, the lease “diverse” country in the world.

          • Henderson bobby

            If you adjusted  for income an educational levels I think you will find race has little to do with it. 

  • Anonymous

    Diversity is just another name for bigots to use to classify us all, to keep us in our place.  Diversity is bull.  All I want to know is the content of your character.  RACIST LIBERALS!

    • Anonymous

      is 1967 a reference to the year your brain stopped working?

      • Anonymous

        WVOM do you have any Black or Hispanic friends?

        • Anonymous

          I sure do.  Do you?

    • Anonymous

      SERIOUSLY???????????????????????

    • Anonymous

      Liberals did the study, Liberals always bring up the Race issue, thats proof in itself that liberal are more aware of the skin color the who the person is…  (Liberals are not Democrats) I am a dem and know how liberals think and they need to maintain a race divided nation.. Liberals continue to point it out, just like this story.. they hate unity. They hate independent thinking people of different races because it’s easier to control whole groups then everyone as a person.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, you are absolutely right!  And that is why the damned Libs point out poverty – they need to maintain the skewed spread of wealth of the country.  Otherwise, there would be no need for Libs.  Right on, push!

        ;-)

        • Anonymous

          The story is not on poverty. people of all political backgrounds are poor, poverty doesn’t choose people by their race

          • Anonymous

            The story wasn’t on the mindset of liberals, either.  I was responding to your typically ridiculous comment, not the story, per se.

          • Look at the poverty stats; caucasians are the majority of all U.S. poor.  The greatest number of U.S. welfare recipiants are “white.” the prisons are still full (80%) of minorities.  Please explain. 

          • Anonymous

            Minorities commit more crimes… sort of asking why is one line longer when a flock of geese fly by.. because there are more birds in that line.

          • Anonymous

            Please show me the website where this is proven.  

          • Anonymous

            I’ll try…it’s because the minorities get caught for one.  Two, while committing crimes (like white people also do) the law will prosecute the minorites  more than the whites…look at the south in the days of Jim Crow.  Yes, I know that’s a long time ago, but things don’t change down there a whole *ell of a lot!  Lived in Alabama…talk about racism.  And three, the whites collect more welfare thereby lessening their need to commit crimes.  ??

    • Anonymous

      And the content of your character is becoming quite clear….

    • Anonymous

      Definition of liberal:

      lib·er·al
       [ líbbərəl ]   
      broad-minded: tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others
      progressive politically or socially: favoring gradual reform, especially political reforms that extend democracy, distribute wealth more evenly, and protect the personal freedom of the individual
      generous: freely giving money, time, or some other asset

      Synonyms: open-minded, broad-minded, moderate, noninterventionist, freethinking,tolerant, laissez-faire

      Hmm, no “racist” in the definition… just where do you get your opinion?

      • Anonymous

         We get our definition from real world experiences.  The literal definition of liberal doesn’t begin to come close to what the real animal has evolved into, and most people know this, probably you too.

      • Anonymous

        That definition was before the fanatical neoliberals took over, and they’re intolerant of any view that’s not sanctioned by them— for example, banning smoking in public parks is something that the neoliberal Portland City Council is planning to do. If somehow neoliberals can in anyway justify taking away individual rights by saying that the “greater good” will benefit then you won’t have your freedom to do as you once did but you’ll be equal and the same as everyone else. I’m a paleo-liberal with a live and let live attitude and I understand there’s more to diversity than just thinking people are like crayons crammed into the same box, all the same except for color.

        • Anonymous

          I love it!

          But… in this context, just how do you intepret a “Paleo-liberal”…?

          And… did you “speed on to Spicus”?

      • Anonymous

        All this means to me is: Webster was Liberal.

      • Anonymous

        I’m a liberal by that definition.

    • Anonymous

      The content of your character!  I’ll buy that!  Excellent answer…how about the content of Hitler’s character?  John Wilkes Booth?  Timothy McVeigh, Ted Bundy, Jeffery Dahmer…you know, those white guys with a solid character!  Yeah…good answer.

  • Anonymous

    Francos, Lebanese, Jewish, Italians, Irish, Swedish, Finnish, Germans, Russians are all lumped in together as “white” and all have long histories in our state.  Something this kind of survey, or the census, doesn’t reflect.  It’s not considered “diverse.”

    • Anonymous

      Just look who completed the “study”…

      • Uh, a prestigious university?

        And you use of scare quotes around the word ‘study’ is a cute touch.

  • Guest

    Diversity doesn’t always refer to race.

    • Passadumkeagah

      ( What else does “diversity” refer to?)

      • Diversity could also refer to ethnicity, political beliefs, culture, nationality, religion, gender, or age.

  • Anonymous

    Funny, all the mug-shots I see for the truly dangerous stuff – like wandering neighborhoods with assault rifles while on bath salts – are of white folks.  But I suppose I’m racist for mentioning that.

    • Anonymous

      Of course that’s not racist.  It’s just a fact.  In an area that is overwhelmingly white, you should expect most of the criminals to be white.

    • Anonymous

      take a stroll through detroit at night and let us know if you feel the same after.

      • This Charming Man

        Do people in Aroostook cities still leave their cars and homes unlocked, like they did back in the 80’s ?

        I don’t think the argument that more diversity induces more crime holds water at all.

      • Anonymous

        I certainly have many-a-time.  I used to live near Detroit (MI, not ME, of course) and often went there late at night for concerts at small clubs, etc.

        When was the last time you left Wytopitlock?  ‘Cuz it sure seems like you’re past due. 

  • Anonymous

    Racist much?

    • Anonymous

      ya , hitler should of won.

  • Lord Whiteman

     This is interesting because the Maine Republicans came to power by feeding people fear of minorities in Maine.  The Republicans managed to blame all crime and welfare on non English whites even though most of the recent (non-white) immigrants where brought to Maine by religious institutions that usually support Republican candidates..

    • The Lutherins (who brought the first Somilis to Lewiston) support Republicans exclusively?  Wow have I been misinformed.

      • Lord Whiteman

         You are misinformed. It was Catholic charities of Maine who imported all the Somali and Sudanese into Maine.  The church’s leading  members own a lot of slum housing  in southern Maine and these where the only people willing to live in them.
        http://www.ccmaine.org/refugee-immigration-services/about

  • Anonymous

    wow  ASSHAT much

  • Anonymous

    This doesn’t mean that Bangor is fifth in terms of having the greatest percentage of non-Hispanic whites.  It means we have the least evenly spread population among five groups.  Laredo, TX, number one in the survey, is 95.7% Hispanic.  So, if anyone is worried we may be slipping… don’t.

  • Anonymous

    Liberals like to group different races, Liberals allow certain race  leaders into the fold as to instruct them how to act and vote.. Where the rest of us treat each person as an person, liberals treat them as a group… So who loves playing the race game.

    • Anonymous

      What stupidity. 

      There is nothing wrong with being proud of who you are and where you family came from. It isn’t racist to have pride. 

      • Anonymous

        Unless your a middle aged white man.

      • Anonymous

        Do you think that a person who prefers living in an area that is predominantly populated by his own racial group is a racist (i.e., whites with whites, blacks with blacks, asians with asians, etc.)?

        I’m not trying to get into an argument by asking the question.  I’m curious about the various views of what constitutes “racism” and what makes one a “racist”.

        • Anonymous

          I never said or suggested anything near that. I’m not going to be forced to defend a position I don’t hold. 

          It isn’t racist to talk about how you are and where you came from. It isn’t racist to have a pride and to celebrate diversity. Period. 

          • Anonymous

            Don’t get upset.  I wasn’t trying to force you to do anything; I just asked a question that you didn’t answer.  And I’m ok with that. 

  • Anonymous

    So what are we supposed to do with this information? I sure hope that no tax dollars were harmed in the production of that study.
    So ME and VT are the whitest states in the country.  That tells me that for some reason non whites aren’t moving into these two states.  I have no idea why they aren’t but is it a really important statistic at the end of the day?

    • Anonymous

      You don’t need to do anything with it.  Brown is a research university in RI and it shared some findings.  I doubt it cost you a nickel.  And, the study did not say ME and VT are whitest (though they may be); it said they are least diverse.  Some people who enjoy diverse communities may be interested in the information, as well as those of us who fear it like a plague.

  • Anonymous

    When my Irish ancestors arrived in Bangor 160 years ago they were not well received. For some reason some folks thought we drank a little too much. 

  • Anonymous

    If “diversity” means a mix of races like Chicago or New York City, I’d much rather live in rural Maine.  I like living in a predominantly white area. 

    We should be grateful that we have a diversity of choices when it comes to where we live in this country.

    • Anonymous

      Wow. The outright racism in comments is astounding and incredibly disappointing.

      • Anonymous

         So, you can live in a “diverse” place and bandbox can live in a less diverse place.

        Or would you rather force everybody to live where YOU see fit, according to YOUR criteria?

        You see, the latter is what a lot of us don’t like about diversity-mongers, people such as yourself FORCE it on others, else you call people racists.

        By the way, I work with urban youth, mainly of color, just outside of Boston, so save your contrived, and wrong, racist thoughts about me before you even start.

        • Anonymous

          Wow. That’s right up there with “I don’t have a problem with gay/black/blue/yellow people, my best friend is 
          gay/black/blue/yellow!”

          Please explain to me how stating “I like living in a *predominantly white* area” is not a racist comment?

          • Anonymous

            Den where do you live?  did you know the whitest 3 states in the US- Maine, VT, and NH have the lowest crime rates according to the FBI? Is the FBI racist. Is the truth now racist. Go live in East Palo Alto or Compton for a few years and then get back to me on that.

          • Anonymous

            Crime is more prevalent in urban areas.
              We don’t have many, if ANY truly urban areas.

          • Anonymous

            AND, we have the three of the highest rates of gun ownership in the US as well AND ME and VT are two of the most liberal states to top it off.

            Go figure…!

            Perhaps, what this all means is that Brown shouldn’t attempt to apply Positive Corelations with Causal Corelations.

          • Anonymous

            Why do you say that comment is racist?  How do you define “racist”?

        • Anonymous

          Where do you see that Den FORCES diversity on people?  Where do you see that he/she wants to FORCE everyone to live where he/she sees fit?  You took one line that he/she wrote and took it WAY out of context.  Den simply said there were some very racist comments on here and they’re disappointed…if you can’t see that for what it is…well, you must’ve not read the entire board of posts.

    • Anonymous

      True…I prefer living here too…not much for big cities…too crowded and don’t care with what color…just too many damned people!  However, I enjoy going to Indian, Thai, Japanese restaurants…and taking classes with students from other countries…and traveling to those places to experience the unique cultures and all it has to offer.  Thanks for adding something positive to this otherwise quite negative posting board…we should be grateful that we have the choice!

  • Anonymous

    They probably don’t want you here, either.

  • Anonymous

    Can someone point out to me the neighborhoods in the U.S. that have become majority Black or Hispanic where crime has dropped and property values have increased?

    • Anonymous

      The non-racist comments are getting more difficult to find. :(

      • Anonymous

        There you go again with the “your racest” knee-jerk post.

        It’s actually YOUR approach that makes it nearly impossible to actually FIX all this, since you don’t want anyone to delve into the Gordian Knot “race” has become in America.

    • Edge Park Road in White Plains New York.

      • Anonymous

         Thank you, I’ll check it out.

  • Anonymous

    That is an absolute racist comment, horrible thing to say. What is it about colored people you don’t like. Can’t you see that the majority of African Americans that come to Bangor and are fine upstanding law abiding citizens. Many are start up entrepreneurs just trying to make a living. They help the local real estate rental economy by renting houses and apartments in all parts of Bangor. Many are wondeful fathers to many, many children. They keep the economy going by buying hats, jeans and jewelry. They keep the restaurants and taverns busy. Many pawn shops and gun dealers are very happy we have such diversity. It is really sad in this day and age that people like you still exist. I am glad today is Monday, it’s going to be a fun week.

    • Henderson bobby

      Looking back 20 years ago you were more correct than today . Time are changing not all for the better . Certain areas of Bangor like Ohio st Minorities are less likely to be productive. I would bet money back in the 70s the few black families were more likely to be hard workers than whites . I hate to say it but being a state that seem to import welfare people is not a good thing of any race. I would bet half the homeless were never from Maine.   

  • Anonymous

    “Communities with large populations, abundant rental housing, and a
    range of jobs are more diverse,” the study states. “So are those where
    the government and/or the military is a key employer. Locationally,
    diversity tends to be higher in coastal regions and along the southern
    border.”

    So logically we will be far from diverse since we have almost none of the above.  This study was an interesting academic exercise for those involved and that’s about all I’d say.   I have a few quick study results of my own, funded entirely by me:
    Maine comes in close to last in amount of real honest to goodness cowboys due to a lack of large cattle ranches
    Maine comes in close to last in amount of citrus producing states due to….oh never mind.  You get my point by now.

  • HalseyTaylor

    Portland isn’t diverse?  Did they come here and look around or use Google Earth?

    • Anonymous

      The story simply says that of the “metro” areas around the whole country, of which Maine has only three (Portland, Bangor, LA), the Portland metro area is the 11th least diverse in the country.  If you have visited any other cities in the US, I would think this would be a concept that is not difficult to grasp.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Some of the reasons that white people are leaving would be the same reasons that non-white people aren’t coming here to live. It’s the change in diversity over a period of time that is meaningful. This study doesn’t show the change so I don’t think it’s very meaningful.

  • More politically-correct clap-trap. designed to get the pros and cons fighting,  pushes the newspaper’s ratings higher.  I have lived in cities from Corvallis Oregon to Wyandotte Oklahome, From Lawrence Massachusetts to Scarsdale New York. 

    “Lack of diversity” in this story means “mostly white” not single raced.  There are many less dirverse places in the USA, but the lack of diversity in these places means majority black, (Compton California)  majority native American (Wyandotte Oklahoma) or majority Spanish (El Cenizo Texas)  How about putting your politically correct pen down, and giving us a real story on diversity?  Are diverse places more crime prone?  Are they less bigotted? are people who live there happier?  Use polls and statistics.  Do it scienticically.  Give us the numbers.

    Bet a doughnut you never write that story.

    • Anonymous

      Lack of diversity in this story does indeed mean “single raced”, so to speak.  That is why the story mentions Laredo, Texas, as the least diversed, because it is 95.7 % Hispanic.  The problem is that the brief story is confusing.  Even a bright person such as yourself has it misconstrued.

    • Anonymous

      Might as well eat the doughnut, you win.

      I was born and raised in Lawrence, Massachusetts (40’s – 60’s) and it was plenty diverse (blacks, Polish, Italians, Irish, Germans, French, English, Arabs,  just on my block alone).

      Thing is, the common thread that tied everyone together was a love of America the opportunity it afforded to make your own way through hard work and perseverance and respect for the right to be your own person regardless of your origins.  Sure, there was some conflict between the different ethnic groups but it didn’t have the ugliness we see today.  Assimilation was a given.

      Generations of progressive public-school indocrination have thrown all this out the window, and balkanization is the name of the game now. And driving all of this is the destructive meme that America is bad, founded on original sin, no imaginary grievance shall go unaddressed.

      They’ve squandered their inheritance and they’re too ignorant of history to know it.

  • Anonymous

    Did anyone bother to read the actual report AND I include anyone at the BDN? The study may be FROM Brown university but it was done by a bunch from Penn. State. In the introduction the authors say they they asked two basic questions (I paraphrase):

    (1) How widespread is the diversity trend? (2) Which communities had the greatest diversification and why?

    I would seem to me a natural THIRD question might be, ” Which communities experienced the least diversification and why?” My guess is that these experts didn’t ask this question because it is much more difficult to answer. 

    Bottom line: If they don’t ask the hard questions what value are the answers to the easy ones? 

  • HowdyNeighbor

    What did the study say about the percentage of sex offenders in those 3 cities? Oh, yeah, that was another study. Bangor is the sex offender capital of Maine, having more sex offenders than even Portland, which has more than double the population of Bangor. Now, THAT’S diversity for ya!

  • Anonymous

    Take a look around when you go to one of the events this area has to offer.  Expecially when there are more than 5,000 people at it.  The huge majority is caucasian.  My former brother in law lived here back in 90 and left for that very reason.  He is african american and was married to my sister…He got tired of the looks, the stares and the comments behind his back.  My sister did as well.  You can go ahead and say that the majority of minorities are trouble makers and criminals if you like, but when the population of such is so small, what would you expect.  On a % basis, caucasians are still raking in far more criminal activity than minorities.  Take one look at the child abuse, marajauna growers and dealers, drub abusers and spousal abusers and they are predominantly White men and women.  I know entire businesses that do not have one ethnic employee?  Is that because they dont apply?  I highly doubt it.  Maine could do a great deal more in growin its diversity, but with their backwoods, redneck views, i highly doubt we will ever see it happen.

    • Anonymous

      What your saying is Maine should be force fed minorities so your brother inlaw feels good about himself.. (-;

    • Anonymous

      “Affirmative action” – a form of reverse discrimination – only applies to government mandated actions.  However, if a qualified member of a minority applies for a position in ones company, rejection of their application is not correct no matter what one calls it.

      But if one chooses (like your brother in-law and your sister) to flaunt the norms of the society in which they have chosen to live, then they must be willing to accept the backlash that inevitably comes!

      The US constitution does not guarantee acceptance – only the opportunity to show you are a winner.  Most companies are willing to give someone a chance to do that, but they will not spend precious capital to bring into their fold someone who cannot show that they are such a winner!

  • Anonymous

    The demograhics of Maine are what they are. It is wrong to label the State as racist because of that. If people of other ethnic groups do not chose to live here so what. Leave your slanted studies at the border.

    • Anonymous

      No one is labeling us a racist. 

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think you have read all the posts on this thread!

  • Melora

    I am finding it hard to believe this study is accurate, as if you’ve ever been to Lewiston it is very diverse.

  • Anonymous

    And furthermore…rather than getting all upset about “liberal” nonsense (there’s plenty of conservative nonsense coming from university departments as well) consider some this from the report:

    Big Places are more diverse  than small places — DAH
    Southern border states are more diverse — DAH but there’s a catch!!
    Military “towns” are more diverse — DAH
    Places with younger populations are more diverse — maybe a small, dah!
    How many of these apply to Maine? 

    The catch, ten of the 25 LEAST diverse places in the country are in Texas, Arizona, & New Mexico.

    Is this report telling us anything a group of smart seniors in Bangor High couldn’t?? 
    Not a thing…chill…. 

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately when raceism is eradicated, whats left is a bland homogenized society, void of anyone’s culture.

  • i prefer living with minorities than rednecks.
    minorities want a good job,nice house,nice car,etc and be respected
     

    • Anonymous

      Where did you get that information?

      • Anonymous

        They probably talked to some of them.  Have you?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe that’s it!  Maine suffers from lack of hybrid vigor! 

  • Anonymous

    So what.

  • Anonymous

    The same folks who complained too many minorities have moved to Mine now do an about face admitting the assumption was false by supporting Maine’s position on the list? The most diverse States are the most successful economically and/or business friendly ?

    • Anonymous

      Why do about face??  Are you calling them liars?? Maybe to them there is to them..

  • Anonymous

    Now the libbers will say we need to bus people in
    and become diverse.Come to Maine so the feel-gooders
    can say we are diverse.Who caes.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, this is news.  We are one of the

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, this is news.  We are one of the whitest states in the nation of couse we are one of the least diverse.  We are Maine if you want diversity go to a college campus or a Job Corps.

  • Anonymous

    Was this a paid study? Or just some egghead running some numbers for a grade Either way it was a  waste of thought. Diversity?we have a population of what 1.3 million Gonna be hard to get any kind of diversity no matter how you spin the numbers

    • Anonymous

      Doctorate thesis on minorites studies I’m sure.. No great job opportunities outside a government job with that major.

  • Anonymous

    So what are we supposed to do with this “study?”  Start busing in minorities?  Build more low cost rental housing?  Perhaps fire most of our law enforcement?  All to make our state more friendly to those who would add “diversity!”

    Even on this site one cannot type a sentence without someone labeling you “racist!”  It has become the all-purpose swear word of the times!

    • Anonymous

      Like “homophobe” for those who don’t support same sex marriage.  There’s no point in arguing with people who fall back on those labels as their argument. 

      • Anonymous

        Very true and (unfortunately) becoming more so!

  • Anonymous

    How is Lewiston not diverse? There is a huge Somali population.

  • chickhiller

    Good and let’s keep it this way!  Being a transient from Ct. ,and being here 5 years, I can tell you, we aren’t missing A THING!

  • chickhiller

    Metro Bangor, if you want to call it that, is 150,000 people.  Hartford County in Ct. is 1.2 million.  There are no metro area’s in Maine.  What the heck is this guy talking about anyway?

  • Anonymous

    There are some liberal  black groups handing out political buttons that say, Vote Black.. Is that racist? If I wore a lepal button that said Vote White would that be racist..

    • Anonymous

      It depends on how one defines “racist”.

  • Anonymous

    I like living in a state that’s 96% white, too, but I wouldn’t have put it the way you do, especially your last phrase.  I disagree with that.

  • Anonymous

    I love the Bangor Daily comment section. Always a good debate going on, thank you BDN… although you close the comments on the most prevalent  articles ;)

  • I am proud and happy to see Maine becoming more diverse .in my youth .I never thought I would see that here.  I left Maine in 1967 to go to school in NYC because I found Maine’s   bigotry and racism stifling.

    Unfortunately I see that bigotry still flourishing outside of Maine’s incresaingly diverse and vibrant  cities but that will change in time.

  • Anonymous

    I mean look at that middle-aged white mainer that was wandering around a residential neighborhood with an assault rifle while on Bath Salts.  Ooooohh… white people are so scary!

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