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  • condolences to all the families who have suffered this horrible loss…

    • Anonymous

      So glad there is closure for the families.  

      • Anonymous

        Closure? Peace of mind maybe but closure, no. There might be some sort of closure when the person or persons responsible are caught and dealt with properly. But even then I doubt it.

        • Anonymous

          They can at least have services for their loved ones now.   That is what I meant by closure. They have been tortured waiting all week and could have had the funeral by now.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, one can certainly agree with that.

          • Anonymous

            I have to assume you have no experience with a death of an immediate family member.  You’re tremendously ignorant of what “you think” closure is after the death.

            You need to have respect for this young woman’s family wishes and cancel your version of a closure gathering for you and Nicolle’s acquaintances. The fund raising gig is tacky and in bad taste. I can assure you……no matter how estranged Ms. Lugdon said she was from her family, they are now in deep grief and extreme pain.

            In the end, for a mother, it matters not how far an adult daughter has gone astray or is living a life that consists of daily danger, her deep love for her daughter never ends. Now she has to face what she feared the most and then come to grips with the manner of her gruesome and brutal death.

            You haven’t a clue what you are trifling with by ignoring Nicolle’s family wishes.  If you, your friends and Ms. Lugdon’s acquaintances are determined to hold a “remembering and closure” event…consider holding it as a private event instead of a public one.  Please respect her family.

          • Anonymous

             I DO have experience with the death of immediate family members and I have to disagree with you, but then we all have different perspectives. I would have seen it as a positive thing and an honor to my child if her friends loved her enough to hold a vigil and remembrance of her. Families do not own other family members and they need to accept that other people were important in their lives, sometimes even more important than the actual family members were.  It is part of letting go and letting people grow up and grow away from childhood.  It would seem reasonable that the families of these young people could honor and remember them in whatever way they deem appropriate and comforting and let others who loved them too do the same. Think of it this way…..would Nicolle, Daniel, and Luke be touched and honored that friends cared enough to gather in their memory and want to do something for the children they left behind? I would guess a resounding yes.

          • Anonymous

            QUOTE from this article:

            “Ms. Lugdon’s  family is upset that a vigil and fundraising effort are being planned without their consent.
            “They think it’s people trying to gain by exploiting their granddaughter,” Edwards said. “The family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop.”
            ***********************************************************
            My prior comment is in response to Nicolle’s  family’s wishes. Do you understand what “the family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop” means?….besides the money raising gig, their request includes the vigil.

          • People experience grief and deal with it in different ways.  Friends have a right to hold a vigil, raise funds for the daughter, and otherwise deal with their grief.  Family members also have the right to fight with their daughter’s friends in public as a way of dealing with their grief.

            Family are people who are related.  friends are those folks picked by the victim.  Both have experienced loss, and both are grieving.  It is a shame they are unable to grieve together, BUT they both have every right to grieve in the manner which gives then solice.

          • Anonymous

            Ms. Lugdon’s  family is upset that a vigil and fundraising effort are being planned without their consent. “The family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop.”*****************************************************************
            These are the wishes and THE REQUEST of Nicolle’s immediate family. Do you understand what it means??  This request of Ms. Lugdon’s family is not a public fight with her friends.  It’s an earnest and legitimate appeal.

          • The “immediate” family of an adult is not always the entity pictured in the Huckstibles. Perhaps the friends were closer. 

            Friends have the right to honor the memory of their friend WITHOUT asking permission of blood relitives.  Sorry you are3 not comfortable, But to answer your question Yes I do understand, Some of us just come to a different conculsion than you.

          • Anonymous

            My comments have nothing to do with my comfort.  The request of what is being described as “her family” to not hold vigils or fund raisers is a very direct and clear request. From all the comments I have received from Ms. Lugdon’s friends (who say they were her family) I have to draw a conclusion that she had no family. (evidently a foster family and one sister)  So who are these people who have requested no vigils and no fund raisers?  That’s a very strong request from some sort of mystery people who had nothing to do with Ms. Lugdon and barely knew her.  Are they imposters or what?

          •  Let’s just say “her friends” have the stronger claim.

          • Anonymous

            Nicole s mother passed away ten years ago

          • Anonymous

            Hey, I have nothing to do with the vigil or fundraising.  I do not know any of these people.  Just see this as a huge tragedy.

          • Anonymous

            Nicoles mother passed away ten years ago

          • Anonymous

            OK, I see. I was revealing the deep and abiding love a mother has for her child, be it a daughter or son. Even if they walk down a dangerous and unrewarding path, the love in the hearts of mothers can’t be altered.

            However, it appears she does have a family (I assume in Madawaska or thereabouts) who is upset that a vigil and fundraising effort is being planned without their consent.“They think it’s people trying to gain by exploiting their granddaughter,” Edwards said. “The family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop.” 

            Evidently, friends of Nicholle’s are planning a vigil and a money raising gig anyway, ignoring that the family is asking them not to. The days are over when the immediate family’s wishes are respected and honored.

            A commenter (Tux Katz) says her friends have a right to hold a vigil and raise funds, while her family has the “right” to fight in public with her friends. (The family’s earnest request doesn’t fall under a catagory of fighting in public) None of this has anything to do with “rights.” Nicholle’s family doesn’t need Tux Katz letting them know what their rights are. This family is undergoing horrifying grief. HONOR their request and back off.

          • I think most people who knew Nicolle knew that her mother has already passed, that her father is in prison for life, and that her grandparents are also gone,,,,, so what family is so upset?  cousins?  i think the friends she had were as large a part of her life than the people she saw once in a great while in northern maine.  if they want to hold a ceremony for themselves and give money to her daughter than so be it!!  she would have wanted that!

          • Anonymous

            OK….have it your way.

        • Anonymous

          no closure yet. one of the victims was my family member. until we have answers, until this person who did it is caught we wont have closure.

          • Anonymous

             I am so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to all the loved ones of these three young people. May they rest peacefully.

          • Anonymous

            Niffer16, I am so sorry for your loss and know that your family is in my prayers tonight. I feel horrible that there is still someone out there who did this to your family and pray that they catch him/her very soon. Take care.

          • jimbobhol

            Sorry for you loss.

          • Anonymous

             i am so sorry for your loss!!

    • Anonymous

      Our family is praying for all family and friends involved in this tragedy…especially the young children.  Unbelievably sad on all counts.

    • Anonymous

      Christine Alexander was right and I’ll add to this….Condolences to all the families who have been victimized by this horrible CRIME…

  • Anonymous

    So sorry for the families. I wish you peace and comfort. May these three now know a place devoid of suffering.

  • sad for the families…may they all rest in peace.

  • Anonymous

    this is just to weird two happen in maine OMG

  • Anonymous

    This is such a horrible thing to happen. I feel for all the families of these young people.

  • Now is the time to keep opinions to yourself whomever is even thinking about it placing random stupid comments trying to judge. My thoughts and prayers go out to these peoples families. I hope they find the person(s) who is/are responsible for these cruel actions.

    • Anonymous

      Well said Rick, I feel bad for all the loved ones left behind, who are trying to deal with all this.  Alot of the comments I read are random, stupid and ignorant.  The focus should be on giving the family their space to mourn, sort this out and then focus on getting the person/s responsible.  They need our compassion and support.

    • This forum is NOT for keeping your comments to yourself, it’s for expressing them. Everyone has as much of a right to their opinion as you do, Rick. These “victims” were not innocent, in all likelihood the investigation will indicate this. 2 convicted drug dealers end up dead in a car, and that’s a coincidence? Not bloody likely. Nobody deserves to die like this, I’ll agree, but they would be alive if they were home knitting or playing Scrabble, or spending time with their young children and doing honest work, like the vast majority of us.

  • Anonymous

    Condolences to the families. What a sad thing.

  • Miss u Nicolle

    • Anonymous

      Condolences for your loss.

    • Anonymous

      So sorry for your tragic loss. She looks like she was a beautiful person in the prime of her life and her life ended much too soon.

  • Anonymous

    I’m so sad for their families.  My condolences to each and every person mourning them and may they Rest Peacefully.

  • ok

  • So very sad…rest in peace kids,praying they catch who ever was responsibe for what happen to you.

  • Sam Thomas

    Prayers and condolences to the families who have lost their loved ones. I truly hope the person who committed this crime has true justice served.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking that maybe someone from out of state drove the car here with victims inside. (Not that it would have been any less sad with victims from out of state.) I was not prepared for them to be local. I am so sad for the families, and, as a mom of a young adult, especially sad for the moms. I am so sorry for your losses!

  • Anonymous

    my cousin luke was an amazing human being. he just knew how to make everyone be in a great mood and laugh. i love him dearly. im am utterly heartbroken over this. plz dont spread rumors about drugs etc. NOBODY knows what happened yet. and if someone does i only hope someone speaks up.

    • Anonymous

      Your poor cousin got caught up in something he never imagined.  It had nothing to do with him.

  • Anonymous

    RIP boarders, there’s alot of us who are missing you man, and alot more that will. we are all going to band together to make sure your little girl is taken care of. we’ll also make sure she never forgets you. keep an eye on us all, until we met again. ball hard in heaven bro.

    true love man

    • Anonymous

      really? ball hard? WOWWW.

      • Anonymous

        …basketball…? WOOWWWWWW.

      • Anonymous

        We need a gangsta rap translator.

      • #HATER

      •  Hey bro, don’t hate bro.

      • Anonymous

         Is it really that hard for you to understand “ball hard”..not everything refers to something bad. It obviously stands for basketball!

  • Anonymous

    thank you for these kind words everyone. my cousin lucas was an amzing person. he knew how to make everyone have a great time and laugh til it hurt. i loved him more than anything. however to see some of these comments about drugs or whatever is not something i want to see. NOBODY knows what happened yet. still under investigation. we are in the dark as well. i hope if someone has any info to plz contact someone immediately. this has been super hard for the past 3 days holding our breaths hoping it wasnt him. i am heartbroken. my whole family is. regardless of what ppl say these 3 ppl were still human beings with families. there is no closure. not yet.

    • PaulNotBunyan

       niffer16 – even if I believe that drugs, crime and gangs are involved I’m not going to judge or condemn these 3 victims. I think it’s more about somebody walks out the door that night thinking all was well but it wasn’t. I doubt it was anything obvious because friends would intervene and get people to just stay where they’re safe. You and your loved ones will be in my thoughts and prayers.

    • Anonymous

      It really doesn’t matter what they did in the past or that night no one should die like this someone is really sick.I’m sorry for your loss to everyone involved.

    • Anonymous

      My prayers to you and your family. I too lost my cousin to a senseless crime, and he also was a good person who made those around him laugh. I pray that they find the person or person(s) responsible for this horrible act. We have never found out what truly happened to my cousin. God bless your family, and may all three of these young people rest in peace.

  • Anonymous

    I am so sick of the so called “Sherlock Holmes” who have this all figured out! Who says it was drugs? Who’s to say this wasn’t a robbery gone bad! My sympathies to all three families..none of who I know.

    • Anonymous

      Because what are 3 people getting into a car, from a party at 3am saying they will be right back doing? going to the gas station to get twinkies? please…people arent stupid

      •  People are actually very stupid. It just so happens that this time the case is so cut and dry that even stupid people can connect the dots.

  • Anonymous

    BDN, you need to watch your content/advertising links, all the Market Place ads on this page are for proprane, kerosene and fuel oil.  That is in pretty bad taste.

  • Anonymous

    BDN, it would be nice if you checked your content/advertising links, all of the MarketPlace ads on this page are for propane, kerosene and fuel oil.  

  • Anonymous

    I am so sick of all the so called “Sherlock Holmes” who have this all figured out! Who says this wasn’t a robbery gone bad? Let the professionals work this out! My Sympathies to all three families..none of who I know.

    • Anonymous

      Because a robbery gone wrong doesnt usually mean you torch the victims in a car. A robbery gone wrong is the victims die and you leave them and run. This doesnt usually happen in maine, well people getting murdered does, but to this degree no. That is why people think its more than just 3 people got murdered and thats it. The fact that there were cars around right before the fire to me shows that this was planned by a person carried out by people. It sucks, it really does, my prayers do go out to the victims families but sometimes who have to understand that your friend or family memeber made a mistake that unfortunately cost them their life.

  • Anonymous

    So so sorry for your loss. Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. 

  • Anonymous

    These people were too young to lose their lives.  I hope they soon catch the SOB who executed them!  My sincere condolences to their familes.

  • Anonymous

    Whoopsie, didn’re read the bottom of the articuule.

    • Anonymous

      So since it was drug dealers from “in-state” suddenly it’s sad, but if they were from away then “oh well”…
      Yeah, no double standard there…

      • Anonymous

        CynicalMatador most people are not writing what they really think about this whole matter, because if they were you wouldn’t think that.

        • Anonymous

          With respect, there really seems a hypocrisy when it comes to “away” vs “local. Look at the Porter/Perdomo thing for the most recent example (or some of the earliest comments about this incident when it was “just some flatlanders”).
          There’s no consistency in argument, as drug dealers/pusher from away are “human scum” with no redeeming characteristics who “got what they deserved” (Perdomo, according to a bunch of people), yet when it’s a local in the same situation, you’re only supposed to see the “good” in them and ignore their “mistakes”.
          It usually seems less about the transgression, and more an “us/them” mindset up here, which makes the moral outrage half the time just seem contrived and selective.

  • there is a forum for leaving condolences, it is under obituaries 
    this forum should be posting comments about the story,regardless of the sensitivity of the post
     

  • tammy patterson

    I think it is really TACKY for BDN and the author, Noi-Noi Ricker, to bring up the past charges of these victims that were a few years ago and they already served their time for. Shame on BDN. This has nothing to do with the fact they were MURDERED in cold blood and burnt up in a car. But when has BDN ever shown any kind of tact when selling papers is more important. My nephew was one of these victims(yes they are victims, not hardened criminals) and he did NOTHING to deserve this. People should think before they judge, this could be one of their own family members one day.

    • Anonymous

      They were just reporting the facts from police records.

      • And pulling information from Facebook pages.  Now there’s a great source for facts.

        • No, the author is going with the, “…if it bleeds it leads…” Perhaps she will write for the stellar “news” paper “The Enquirer.”

    • PaulNotBunyan

       Well, I read it but I had already searched and read more detail. And that’s why I agree with you that they were not hardened criminals. I won’t come down on BDN for reporting the facts but I think the part that begins with “While police have not mentioned drugs in connection with the triple homicide” goes beyond reporting facts. You have my sincere condolences.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, the fact that they were involved with using and or selling illegal drugs indicates they at least occasionally hung out with others who committed similar crimes and worse. In case you somehow didn’t get the word, there are some really evil, cold hearted people who deal drugs for a living and its best to stay far away from them. Yes, these three most definitely are victims and didn’t deserve to be murdered and I hope their killer is caught and punished, but their criminal pasts are a part of the story, especially since they were involved with illegal drugs.

      • Anonymous

        Just drop it dude…the families are going through enough. They still didn’t deserve to die. They are not here to defend themselves and I think you are a rude person for bringing up things that aren;t even laid out as facts. Let families mourn for their loved ones.

        • Anonymous

          What, exactly, in my post is not fact? 

          I said that they didn’t deserve to die so at least we agree on that.

          I can understand how badly the loved ones of the victims are suffering, but it doesn’t help anyone to pretend that they never associated with sketchy people, especially since it was obviously a VERY sketchy person who did this to them.  Certainly I understand that their rap sheets don’t tell the whole story about these three, but it IS relevant and may be the connection that leads to the murderer being brought to justice.

          • It’s a case of blaming the victims, and you are doing just that. Since when do people deserve what happened to these three victims?

          • Anonymous

             There is no reason whatsoever to bring up a prior marijuana conviction that was over 4 years ago.  If that had happened more recently that would not even be on her record because it is decriminalized.  There is also no connection of a theft to drugs…so I must agree that bringing up these past convictions were completely tactless and offer nothing to the situation.

          • Guest

            It’s gossip and you are blaming the victims for their own death.

      • Anonymous

        The possibility exists that the hit was suppose to be on Nick Sexton and not the three people in the car.  After all, Nick brought the car up from Massachusetts often and it is his girlfriends.  So, he was most likely making drug runs up here.  

      • Anonymous

        I sincerely hope that nothing bad like this ever happens to anyone in your family. What happened to them is terrible and some compassion for the family and friends of these victims is called for. These people were someone’s son or daughter, parent, significant other, friend…these people also suffer whether they had any involvement with the drug scene. When you die someday, would you like all your mistakes publicized for the world to see? “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

    • Anonymous

      And tacky to call the families in their time of loss.

    • Anonymous

      I totally agree with you Tammy.  I’m so sorry for the loss of your nephew and the other victims.  I too think it’s in extremely poor taste to bring up very minor things in the past of these young people in this very painful and tragic time. Public record or not, I see no reason to desecrate their memories by bringing up this b-s now. Whatever happened to common decency?  All of what I read gives me serious doubt that any of those minor beefs with the law had anything to do with these people being murdered.  My prayers to you and your family as well as the friends and families of the other victims.

      • Anonymous

         I think if you asked 100 people in Maine who are in their late 30s and 40s you would find that over 80% have bought or used marijuana in the past.  Saying that this woman had a past drug conviction is meaningless, had it been heroin or something like that I could understand but pot is a bit different.  I don’t see how this is relevant to the facts of the story and only see this as a way of giving the speculators out there more irrelevant info to help them spin even more rumors.  Stick to the facts, not the absence thereof.

        • Can I ask why it’s ok for them to die if it’s heroin, but not for pot?

          • Anonymous

            People DON’T die from smoking pot !

          • HowdyNeighbor

            They are more likely to if the joints are unfiltered.

        • Anonymous

          I agree entirely.  Well put.

        • Anonymous

           I doubt this happened over a little “pot”.   Something a lot more serious was going down.

      • Anonymous

        Unfortunately, being convicted of trafficking cocaine is not a minor thing. Since the cocaine conviction was in Mass and the person who was supposedly driving the car is from Mass, it does seem possible this is related to drugs. Also, one of the victim’s friends went on TV stating that the victim hung around with questionable people. Two of these victims have children so when their children were born, the drugs and “questionable” people should have been gone from their lives. I am not saying they deserved this because no on deserves this. I feel for the families that are left behind. But choices need to be made and people choose who they associate with.  

        • Anonymous

          No where in the article did it say he was CONVICTED of trafficking in cocaine!  Being arrested for it and being convicted of it are HUGELY different.  Please re-read the column and my comments about this very issue further down.

          • Anonymous

            Sometimes people only see what they want to see.

    • Anonymous

      Facts are facts

    • I BELIVE THAT BDN SHOULD HAVE ONLY POSTED THE DETAILS OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE 3  WHO WERE MURDERED AND NOT THE DETAILS OF THERE PAST .I PRAY THAT THE PARENTS OF 3  VICTIMS STAY STRONG AND STAND UP FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE RIGHTS . BDN NEEDS STOP AND THINK ABOUT THE FAMILES OF THESE 3 AUDLTS AND STOP TALKING ABOUT THERE PAST THEY ARE GONE PLEASE STOP AND THINK !! THEY ARE GONE WHY BRING UP THERE PAST ??? LETS TRY AND THINK OF OTHERS BEFORE POSTING STUFF FROM THERE PAST YOU KNOW IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRESENT  STORY ? I WILL PRAY FOR STRENGTH FOR ALL OF THE PARENTS AND FAMILY …..BLESS YOU ALL!!

      • Anonymous

         Are you sure that the past has nothing to do with the present?

      • Anonymous

        What’s with the  “ALL CAPS?”

        • Anonymous

          Its louder that way…

        • Anonymous

          Nothing like a good shout to get it off your chest.

    • Anonymous

      Unfortunately, Tammy, it paints a big picture of the environment surrounding the whole situation.  No one is dismissing the fact that their murder is horrible or devistating.  But if there is suspected drug activity (and though friends/family don’t want to believe there was anything elicit going on, the police may have other leads), the fact that people have previous run-ins with the law may speak for what happened that night.  I’m sorry your nephew fell victim to this horrible crime, and it must be hard to separate yourself and look at this how the general public does.  I hope it doesn’t turn out to be anything illegal and I hope they found the person who took these three lives.

      • Even if there was illegal activity, did these young lives deserve to be taken over some drugs?

        • Anonymous

           It has nothing to do with ” did these young lives deserve to be taken over some drugs”.  The point is that certain life choices increase a person’s chances of experiencing serious negative consequences.

          For many this includes estrangement from family, etc.  Many suffer permanent damage to their health.  Poverty, jail, and sometimes death. 

          Yes, these same things can happen to anyone.   But lets be honest about what the odds are.

        • Anonymous

          Oh my goodness, absolutely NOT! My point, though, was that there is anger over past history being brought up but I was trying to say that it shows the type of company these young people might have been associating with. It suggests a lot, unfortunately.

        • Two sayings come to mind: 1) Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, and 2) If you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Just sayin’.

        • Exactly. However, many people simply don’t get it, because they are trying to hide the skeletons in their own closets. This is a sad reflection of our society, zero compassion, justifying murders, lovely lovely people. 

    • Anonymous

      AMEN TAMMY…the BDN does this all the time…what does their past record have anything to do with their current lives..I did not know these three young souls but this is one of many reasons I dont’ subscribe to the Bangor Daily Rag…Leave their past mistakes to the past and let them be remembered for who they are now…so sad…thoughts and prayers are with the families of all three victims…

      • Anonymous

         If you think this happened in a vacuum then you are blind.

    • The media in general is a classless bunch of ……..(i’ll let folks insert their own explitives.)  They care nothing about victims, the true story, or the facts.  They care about putting trash on paper, or on a TV screen, to stir up the drama queens of this world.  The same people who read National Enquirer, and watch Big Brother. I mean, how does a loser like Nancy (Dis)Grace continue to broadcast that disgusting excuse for a show.

      • Anonymous

        People need a good laugh once in awhile.

    • HowdyNeighbor

      I am sorry for your loss. Perhaps reading the newspaper at this time is not something you want to be doing. I know if my loved one was killed I wouldn’t be online reading comments under news stories.

      Nok-Noi is an outstanding journalist. She (and everyone else) knows that a person’s actions at parties in the wee hours of the morning can and often do lead them down paths they should not be following. Unfortunately, the criminal offenses of the victims are news, and likely point to the root cause of the crime that occurred. It’s just plain common sense and it is journalism. This is a not a town gossip newsletter nor a feel-good obituary. It’s the news. Kudos to Nok-Noi for not only covering the news for this very difficult story (no journalists wants to cover this type of crime), but doing so in a compassionate and non-judgmental way.

      Finally, stories like this often help police track down the perpetrator(s) because people who may have seen something, or who know who the killer is, are more apt to come forward if the story is kept fresh in the news.

    • Anonymous

      Same old bangor daily news….no respect for the dead…not bad enough that these young lives were taken in a very tragic way but I’m totally surprised that they didn’t get the mug shots from the DA’s office to spice up their article.   SHAME ON YOU BANGOR DAILY NEWS

      • Anonymous

        Does the DA have mug shots of the 3 victims?

    • Maybe these murders are drug related? Could that be why the BDN brought up those drug charges/convictions? As a common denominator? More likely than not, they were buying or selling drugs. Or they were moving in on someone’s territory. Or they tried to rip off a bigger dealer in the food chain. Innocent people (like nuns or priests) who don’t break the law don’t usually get murdered and have their bodies burned in a car in an industrial park. Just sayin’.

    • Anonymous

      I completely agree.  I don’t care what happened in their past…I do care that these three died in such a horrific fashion.  No one deserves this.

    • If  a tragedy befalls the author of this, poorly written and poorly worded article, I hope some hack, such as she, will write about the tragedy in such a non-professional manner. 

      • Anonymous

        What is non-professional about the article….from a journalistic POV?  Which part or parts are poorly written and poorly worded?

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to say 3 tragic deaths happened this week and family and friends are grieving the loss of there loved ones. The Bangor daily news can’t wait to point out there backgrounds instead of focusing on this horrific crime. I’m so saddened for the families and friends involved in these losses. I’m so sorry our local paper has no decency and respect in the time of death. My deepest  sympathies. 

    • Anonymous

      they did focus, all week, on the horrific crime, however, like it our not, our past will follow us. do you think the person who did this does not have a ‘past’? it is called a record for a reason

  • Anonymous

    Don’t rely on Facebook as a source. Use it as a lead when it comes to reporting biographical data.

    • Anonymous

      Looks like some of those things taken from facebook were confirmed by friends, which is fine by me. I agree, facebook information should be taken with a large grain of salt. 

      • Anonymous

        They should be confirmed by the school and former employers. If you can’t confirm it, don’t report it. I would have thought the Bob Carlson case would have resonated with the news media in this regard.

      • Anonymous

        Unfortunately, FB tends to be the place people post too much.  I think someone’s FB page shows a LOT about the type of person they are.  You post pics of yourself smoking weed, wearing revealing clothes in those stupid mirror pictures, or talk about how “I just got out”….yup, that’s the real you.

        • Anonymous

          yes  it’s very scary

  • Anonymous

    My heart goes out to all the families and friends who are connected to these three young people.  So heartbreaking. 

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone at BDN have a journalism degree? “according to facebook”, “Facebook says they are these kind of people”. I think facebook should get your paychecks this week. And stop calling these poor families. Why would they want to talk to you? They are grieving leave them alone.

    • tammy patterson

      They don’t care. The channel two news was in Hermon the other day harassing my mom for information and when she said “DO NOT PUT MY NAME OR ANYTHING ABOUT WHO THIS MIGHT BE OUT IN THE MEDIA BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER (ONE OF THE VICTIM’S MOM) IS IN THE ICU AT THE HOSPITAL AND WE ARE AFRAID TO UPSET HER”, they didn’t give a crap and did it anyway. Her son was forced to tell her because it was already in the media before the bodies were ID’d. It is sickening what they will do to get a story. Then you have all the amateur Sherlock Holmes detectives speculating about things they don’t know and they don’t care who it affects. My nephew didn’t do ANYTHING to deserve this and I hope the piece of useless garbage that did it is caught. Everyone making assumptions about the character of these victims should wonder how they would feel if this was their family members. Do you lack compassion and the ability to put yourselves in someone else’s shoes? Be careful what you say about other people when you don’t know what unexpected situation you might get caught in some day.

      • Moe Bolduc

        Tammy is in denial.

        • Anonymous

          And you are cruel. Whether or not Tammy is in denial isn’t up to you. Do you know what happened and why? If you do, shed some light on the subject. If not, shut up. You have no right to speak ill of the dead no matter what they did in their past. Shame on you.
          Tammy and other relatives of these victims, I hope you find peace and comfort in each other.

    • Anonymous

      Do you have a journalism degree? And if they are talking to the families, it’s likely because family members gave them their numbers. It’s very easy for a family member to say “I’m not prepared or willing to talk to you right now” and hang up the phone.

  • Three from Maine arrested in cocaine case
     
    By Dawn Gagnon, BDN Staff
    Posted June 10, 2009, at 11:11 p.m.

    MERRIMAC, Mass. — Four people — three of them from Penobscot County — were arrested Sunday night in Massachusetts after police received a tip suggesting they were transporting drugs from New York to Maine.

    Arrested on Class B cocaine trafficking charges were:

    — Nicholas Norris, 27, of Newport.

    — Daniel Borders, 23, of Hermon.

    — Courtney Nye, 17, of Bangor.

    — Clinton Jennings, 25, of Bronx, N.Y.

    As of late Wednesday afternoon, the three men remained behind bars, unable to make $100,000 cash bail, according to Trooper Eric Benson of the Massachusetts State Police Office of Media Relations.

    Norris, Borders and Jennings are being held at Essex County Correctional Facility, which houses male inmates, an official from the jail confirmed Wednesday evening.

    Nye, who initially was held at a Framingham women’s facility, was released after a court appearance Wednesday, an official from that jail said.

    Benson said the arrest was made about 9:30 p.m., about an hour after the Maine Drug Enforcement Agency issued at teletype asking authorities to be on the lookout for a black 1991 Ford Explorer. The SUV was believed to be en route to Maine after having left New York about 4 p.m. that day.

    “The information we received indicated that the vehicle was likely to contain a reasonably large amount of cocaine,” Benson said, adding that the MDEA was told the SUV’s occupants would be carrying two ounces of the drug.

    The SUV was spotted in the northbound lanes of Interstate 495 by a Massachusetts state trooper who had seen the teletype and set up near I-495 to see if he could locate the SUV.

    The trooper spotted the SUV about 9:25 p.m., pulled in behind it and confirmed it was the one sought. As he followed, he saw the SUV drift across traveling lanes several times, Benson said. The trooper then called for backup from Haverhill and Merrimac police.

    Benson said police pulled the SUV over in Merrimac and ordered the occupants out. During a subsequent search, police found a large bag filled with a white powder believed to be cocaine on Jennings’ person. They found a small bag and a black cylinder, both containing similar white powder, in Nye’s possession.

    Norris, who was driving the SUV, also was issued a summons for defective equipment because the Explorer had a broken taillight and with failure to stay within marked traveling lanes, Benson said.

    Benson said all four made initial appearances Monday in Newburyport District Court, where bail was set.

    Neither the amount of cocaine seized during the stop nor the street value was available Wednesday.
    http://bangordailynews.com/2009/06/10/news/three-from-maine-arrested-in-cocaine-case/

    • tammy patterson

      It’s awesome that you know how to bring up people’s past mistakes that they already did their time for. You must be absolutely perfect without a spot on your record, not even a traffic ticket. Bravo to you, give the “Pitbull” a bone. Be careful, lest your halo slip and you make a mistake sometime in your life, you judgmental opinionated being. People make mistakes and grow up. They change and regret mistakes from the past. My nephew would give someone the shirt off his back and was always helping his friends out. He was MURDERED, what part of that do you not understand? Let’s hope you or none of your family NEVER makes a mistake. But if you do, I hope I get to here about it but don’t worry, I won’t pass judgement on you because I won’t stoop to your apparently unintelligent level.

    • Anonymous

      In this article the one person not mentioned with anything found on them was Daniel Borders. 

      • PaulNotBunyan

        I’ve pointed out stuff like that so many times in this case and  other cases. It’s sad the type of replies I get for it. Some people only come here to be mean and nasty.

        Also – please read it again because I can’t find anything about drugs found on the driver of that SUV. I think it’s 2 out of 4 that they lacked grounds for any drug charges. No mention of any drugs found in the vehicle that weren’t on a person either. I’m not soft on crime but I’m a strict constructionist when it comes to constitutional issues.

      • PaulNotBunyan

         and another interesting thing is that MDEA was behind it. That would explain why all four of them get booked on charges with a high bail amount. It’s cops from 2 different states scratching each other’s back.

        • Anonymous

          In some states the laws allow the charging of everyone in a car regardless of who was holding.

          • Yep. Another dumb law that exists to maximize how many people we can put in prison for no reason. Stupid. If someone has a bag of weed in their pocket, its clearly their weed and not the guys sitting behind him. Just another way for the “law” to enslave people.

          • jimbobhol

            I believe that intent of that law is when no one will admit to possession of the drugs found. They don’t just take the drugs and say ok have a nice day.

          •  The intent of the law? What the law means to do/say? Now, thats a good law. Clearly Jd2008jd stated “charging everyone regardless of who was holding”. This means someone had it and it wasnt loose in the car and everyone is still charged. I find that to be completely disagreeable and outside the bounds of rational law making. As I said, its a law which is made to enslave people, which was probably lobbied for by someone connected to CCA. They love to see people go to prison and they take a pro-active approach to getting people in. I see your point if theres just something stuffed somewhere. Sometimes they charge everyone and sometimes they charge who-ever the gear is close to.

            And yeah, they do that, take stuff and let people leave. Ill tell you a story: Prior to bathsalt becoming illegal in this state, when it was still in that “going to be illegal very soon” stage, a man was pulled over leaving the fed ex. He had just picked up a package that contained at least a pound of salt. He also had a rather large amount of money on him, more then a couple thousand in cash (obviously drug money). The police took the salt and the money, but then returned the money because it was made via a product which was still, technically, legal. The cops knew what this man was doing. But, they let him go along with all the loot and these words “make as much money as you can now because its going to be illegal soon”. They honestly couldnt legally take the salt, but because it was going to be illegal any day they did anyway. So much for them being the shining examples you apparently believe them to be. They broke the law by stealing a legal substance from him and then they returned money to a known drug dealer (who by the way, is now in prison.)

          • Anonymous

            Let me clarify my comment…in some states drugs found under the seat or on the floor or stuffed between seats are charged to the person that occupies the seat with the assumption that they placed them or concealed them there.

            In other states the driver (who is ultimately responsible for the vehicle) regardless of where the drugs are found takes the fall for the drugs when no one admits to owning the drugs.

            And in still other states the whole car will be taken down for the presence of drugs in the car when no one admits to owning them and in some states the while car will go even when someone admits to owning the drugs.

            Your bathsalts example sounds like it was during the time that possession was still a “misdemeanor” but the drug itself was illegal. Now that bathsalts are a “felony” (and yes I know Maine doesn’t have “felony/misdemeanor” classifications but Class A, B, C, D & E but the end result time spent in fail/prison is still the deciding factor) use has plummeted and crack and meth are back on the rise.

          • Anonymous

            where he belongs

          •  Indeed, considering he continued to sell after it was made illegal and he had enough money to live for quite sometime. There was no need for him to continue. Stupidity should be punished.

          • PaulNotBunyan

            Read the actual laws and related higher court decisions. It’s more a matter of what you knowingly and willfully do. They have to prove that aspect of it. Otherwise they wouldn’t need most of the controlled buys they do. They can detain everybody while they sort things out a bit but actually charging them requires proper grounds.

          • Anonymous

            Fact is they can all be arrested and the DA gets to sort it out prior to going to trial. They find drugs on one passenger, a “pipe” on another passenger and “residue” (a usable amount) in the ashtray/can/etc….and the driver is going too.

            A dent puller and screwdriver found in a truck owned by a body shop is not going to result 99% of the time in charges of “possession of burglarious tools”. Put those same tools in a motor vehicle in an area with high auto theft rates and operator “cruising” the parking lot checking out cars and you are 99% of the time going to be charged with “possession of burglarious tools” and the DA gets to sort it out.A fist fight breaks out and one of the participants falls to the ground and the other starts to “put the boot to him”. Well in some states that just moved from “simple assault” to “assault and battery with a deadly weapon, a “shod foot”. Many people don’t think a shoe on a foot is a deadly weapon but it is and the DA gets to sort that out too.My point is that Police Officers don’t decide the law, they enforce the laws on the book. Do they use “drugs” as a leverage between people? Absolutely they do. People in public safety (police, fire and EMS) develop a “sixth sense” that tells them something isn’t right about any given situation. It’s that sixth sense that sometimes leads to additional arrests because the officer just keep digging and questioning the detained people.

    • Anonymous

      You obviously live a very sad life. You are a sick person to have posted that.

  • tammy patterson

    How are you coming to that conclusion? Do you have information that could help solve the case? If so, you should run, not walk, down to the police station and give a statement. There has been no information released whatsoever that drugs are involved. Unless, of course, you are psychic? Oh, probably just more speculation by another amateur detective.

    • Anonymous

      Time will tell, will it not?

      • Anonymous

        And what Ms. Patterson is trying to tell you is right now is not the time. The families are grieving and attempting to come to grips with these three humans horrific deaths.

        • Anonymous

           Grieving families probably ought  not to be trolling through the BDN comments, then.

          • Anonymous

            Exactly!  If you are grieving one would assume it’s the last place you want to hang out.  But… you know what they say…  BDN comments are like Coke..

          • Anonymous

            And the ONLY place these grieving families are getting any type of information from is the news media right now. The BPD, MSP, Fire Marshal, ME and Maine’s AG are in the middle of a criminal investigation and cannot/will not share information with the families.

            So, the people archie says are “trolling” are really looking for and seeking information about their loved ones. They are attempting to piece together what happened too but the difference is they are doing it in a vacuum absent any “official information” other than your loved ones were murdered.

            At this point I don’t believe the ME has even released the bodies to the families. Nor have they been given a death certificate as that would give the cause (i.e. drowning, fall, blunt force trauma, myocardial infarction, etc…) and manner of death (i.e. natural causes, homicide, suicide, etc…). The family know the manner of death but not the cause as this is “being withheld for investigative purposes”.

            So yeah, some family members are “hanging out” looking for answers that the authorities are unable to give them right now. Go figure…..families of murder victims looking for answers…one would assume you would be too if something horrible happened to someone you cared about..

          • Anonymous

            And the ONLY place these grieving families are getting any type of information from is the news media right now. The BPD, MSP, Fire Marshal, ME and Maine’s AG are in the middle of a criminal investigation and cannot/will not share information with the families.

            So, the people you say are “trolling” are really looking for and seeking information about their loved ones. They are attempting to piece together what happened too but the difference is they are doing it in a vacuum absent any “official information” other than your loved ones were murdered.

            At this point I don’t believe the ME has even released the bodies to the families and nor have they been given a death certificate as that would give the cause (i.e. drowning, fall, blunt force trauma, myocardial infarction, etc…) and manner of death (i.e. natural causes, homicide, suicide, etc…). The family know the manner of death but not the cause as this is “being withheld for investigative purposes”.

            So yeah, some family members are “trolling” the BDN but not for the reason you think.

          • Anonymous

            I’m not suggesting that they shouldn’t seek out additional information, I’m just saying that to think that none of the comments will be disparaging or speculative is being naive.

            Furthermore, family members who post on here to defend their loved one against attacks are only stoking the coals. If they want to post, that’s of course fine, but you can’t expect all the responses to be supportive.

            That’s just how any internet forum works – folks post their feelings, frequently at the expense of others.

          • Anonymous

            “That’s just how any internet forum works – folks post their feelings, frequently at the expense of others.

            OK and here are the “rules” as spelled out the the BDN:

            “The Bangor Daily News encourages comments about stories, but you must follow our terms of service.

            In brief:

            1) Keep it civil and stay on topic
            2) No vulgarity, racial slurs, name-calling or personal attacks.
            3) People who harass others or joke about tragedies will be blocked.”

            Now I will be the first one to admit that the BDN does a horrible and inconsistent job of enforcing the rules they put in place. But, they have a financial reason not too. The dirty little secret is the BDN daily print edition keeps getting smaller and smaller and the price keeps going up and up  but every time someone clicks through on the electronic edition the BDN gets paid dollars by advertisers and that archie is why the BDN doesn’t enforce their own rules. If they did the comment section would like the print edition….empty and devoid of content for advertising.

    • Anonymous

      Just because it hasn’t been released doesn’t mean it isn’t there. I’ll bet they know more than anybody thinks..

  • Bangor Daily News, Please have the common courtesy to shut down this message board so that the families can have just one day to mourn appropriately for there loss of loved ones. I find it quite disrespectful that you know very well family members are reading all of this presumptive garbage and BDN you are allowing these three families lives at their worst moment to be disrespected in the worst way that is possible.

    What is wrong with Bangor? The mentality as well as the lack of compassion from you people is every thing that is going wrong with Bangor. I personally do not care what all of this horrific scenerio plays out to be. All I care about is preventing it from ever happening again and helping and healing the Families involved.

    So again, I ask you… Has Bangor really gone that far off that you all can’t show some respect and decency for lives lost?

    • Anonymous

      I think people are more worked up about the crime that took place here. Its unfortunate however the names are attached to an overall issue in the area. For those who don’t want to be offended I suggest you stop reading at the end of the story instead of scrolling to comments. 

    • Michael P Mccann

      i have tried .. even posted on their website about how freakin awfull their comment system is but i keep getting the cold shoulder

      • Anonymous

        How does the BDN give you the cold shoulder?

        • Michael P Mccann

          by not giving a darn and censoring posts that show zero respect

          • Michael P Mccann

            not to mention NOT  banning the trolls on other articles

          • Anonymous

            they have rules. as long as you adhere to the rules it is called free speech. we all have the right to free speech

          • Michael P Mccann

            That’s just the problem with rules .. 
            No vulgarity, racial slurs, name-calling or personal attacks broken..
             harass others or joke about tragedies broken..  
            capital letters broken.. off topic posts.. broken.. 
            chat about your personal life broken says so right in their terms of service but do they care or do crap about it? nope

          • Anonymous

            that is so not true. what about all the posts that say “flaged for review” or “post removed”?

          • Michael P Mccann

            i will give credit where it is due.. it is not nearly enough however that they use that button.. to give you a idea out of 428 comments as of the time i write this i only see like 10 times it says post removed by admin when it should be more like 50 to 75

          • Anonymous

            “flaged for review” = readers clicking of “flag” which is located under every comment if you hover your cursor over the comment.

            “post removed” = is done by the moderators.

    • they don’t have to come on here to read the comments,problem solved.

    • Anonymous

      Then use some self-restraint and don’t read the comments.  This is a newspaper; it reports the news and readers’ comments.  It’s not the obituary page or a funeral home’s website for expressing condolences.

    • Amen I agree no one want to hear, the garbage that are coming out of peoples mouths, these are precious lives that have been taking away, I’m all the way in California and, people out here have some kind of compassion to let these people families mourn in peace. 

    • Everyone is entitled to their opinion. This is the forum to post them. The facts will show that these people (at least 2 of them) were not “innocent” and were playing with something or someone far more dangerous than they realized. Yes, it’s 2 more drug dealers off the street, but the sad news is 2 more will probably step in to fill the void. THAT’S what we should be trying to prevent, Adam.

      • Anonymous

        They could have been innocent and the hit was for Nick Sexton.  They had his girlfriend’s car and why wasn’t Nick in the car.  He was from Brockton, Massachusetts.  This does not look like a Maine hit…..More like what we see out of state.  Agree drugs were involved.

  • Anonymous

    Drug involvement is purely speculation at this point.   It doesn’t change the fact that these kids (yes….kids) were someones mothers, fathers, sons, daughters and brothers.  They are not here to defend themselves, or their prior actions, and should be allowed to rest in peace, and their families allowed to grieve in peace.  I am the parent of a child very close to that age.  There by the grace of God go I…..  

    • Anonymous

      Actually, they were long past being kids.  They were adults, two of them parents themselves.

      •  Having children of your own does not make you an adult nor does being a certain age.

        • Anonymous

          Maybe not in your world, but it does in mine.  You become an adult in this state when you turn 18.  Then you can vote, serve on a jury, enter into a contract, hold public office, serve in the military, be tried in an adult rather than a juvenile court, be free from parental control, etc. 

          Like it or not, those things make you an adult, even though you’re free to otherwise act as a child.

          • Right, so because society says a person is off legal age to be an adult, that makes it so? What if society said that you were an adult at 10? Would that be logical, to you? If you act like a child you are basically a child, its pretty simple. Maturity has nothing to do with age, at all. Im not old, by any means but I am a lot more of an adult then my own father. If we called a snake by any other name would it stop being a snake? Keep clinging to your (RE: someone elses) beliefs, if you please, but you are incorrect.

          • Anonymous

            I’m using the generally accepted definition of an adult as a person who has attained the age of maturity as specified by law.  That’s 18 in Maine.  You want to use something else, some free-form, New Age nonsense.  Well go ahead.  It’s ok.  It’s just a comment in the BDN.

          • Its not some New Age nonsense. You are absolutely and utterly confused. I am speaking about ideas and things that are clearly way over your head. Trying to define maturity via legislation is actually a lot more of a recent activity then the ideas I am proposing. Anyway, clearly you are unable to grasp marginally complex philosophical and social issues. Go cling to your law books. Meanwhile, Ill stick to my Nietzche, Kant, Camus, Sartre, Rand, Locke and other similar characters. Good day.

          • Anonymous

            Time to take your meds, put on your tinfoil hat, and hang up your keyboard.  You’ll feel better.  Trust me.

          • And this is the inevitable result when the weak in mind try to play intelligent. Your argument of “The law says so” is the height of ignorance. But, I should thank you for your submission to my book “Ad hominems for Dullards”. So, thanks!

          • Anonymous

            Ah yes, your default response:  “Ad hominems for Dullards”.  I’ve seen you use it before.

          •  If you are familiar with that response, did you really expect me to reply in a different manor? First of all, its rather comical. Secondly, its exactly what you did. You attacked me personally over my beliefs more then once. I refrained, and then gave you a slight dose of it back. I have provided clear arguments in support of my opinion. You have provided: THE LAW SAYS SO. Brilliant, really. I mean, its an incredibly shallow argument, but, its brilliant… How should have I replied to your tinfoil hat comment? I mean, really? How about you grow up and get off your intellectual booster seat, eh chief?

          • DFC Gal

            I agree with devildude. Brain research clearly shows that the human frontal lobe does not fully form until an average age of 24. The frontal lobe is “in charge of’ cause and effect thinking and many other important things. Research shows that individuals with immature frontal lobes tend to participate in more risky behaviors than those with fully formed frontal lobes. 

          • Anonymous

            I don’t doubt it.  Using that standard of demarcation between childhood and adulthood, the victims in this case – ages 24, 26, and 28 – were adults.  Further, if you had read my posts carefully, you would understand that when I talk about adulthood, I mean the age at which one becomes an adult in the eyes of the law.  Obviously, attaining adulthood doesn’t mean that one won’t act stupidly and engage in risky behavior. 

          • I did not grow a Brain till age 30.  That explains it. 

      • Anonymous

        I am older than dirt, so any one under the age of 30 is a kid to me.  At their age, I made a lot of mistakes and the only difference between the victims and myself, is I lived  to wrong some rights and make different choices.  Sure, you can vote, buy booze and porn at that age, but in terms of life experiences, 24 is embryonic.   

  • Anonymous

    so tragic. 
    I’m at a loss for words.
    Why would anyone do such a heinous act as to take 3 young people from this world.

    I hope the killer is caught and punished to the full extent of the law.

  • Anonymous

    Really tacky and heartless for this newspaper reporter to print the victims criminal histories. This is not the time or place. Shame on the Bangor Daily News for not editing that out.

    • Anonymous

      Why not represent them for who they were? Time to get real with life and to stop hiding behind peoples feelings

      • Anonymous

        Because they’re not here to confirm or deny, and they have family and friends.  You don’t have to respect the dead, that’s your choice, but if you can’t respect the living, I don’t hold a whole lot of hope for you as a human being.    Representing someone based on one newspaper article is really quite silly.  

    • Anonymous

       I kind of agree. I don’t believe that any official has even hinted that drugs were involved, at least not publicly. Because of that, it’s really just speculation.

      However, i’m not opposed to public information, such as arrests and court filings, being presented. Perhaps it could be in the context of a side-article which provided some additional background about who they really were.

    • Anonymous

      It says something about their past conduct and backgrounds and may end up being consistent with the circumstances of their deaths.  It’s newsworthy.

  • Anonymous

    I have been following this case regularly, as have most of you. The first thing that I will say, I am ashamed of how my “peers” have reacted to this. Yes, it is an awful tragedy. Yes, it is POSSIBLE that it was drug related. YES, three families have lost loved ones. I have read the articles about past incidents and I do agree that those may be a possible motive, however… none of us know that for sure. Until all of the facts come out, I think we should all just keep our speculations to ourselves. Those of you that have some “inside” information… keep that to yourselves too. It only seems to feed the speculations of others.  My condolences to the loved ones of those that lost their lives.

    • Admin Person

       Humans speculate. I wonder why two people died for one mans issues. Drug dealers speculate too they take a big risk in hopes of gain.

      • Anonymous

         why do you say one mans issues? there was a girl involved too.

    • PaulNotBunyan

      It’s not speculations that is so bad but the manner of some of them. I’ll speculate that somebody walked right into a trap that was set up for them but that’s not blaming or judging the victim. And whatever happened might be drug related but have nothing to do with the recent past. People get falsely accused and they don’t get a chance to defend themselves. Trouble can come your way when you didn’t go looking for it. That’s another “speculation” of mine. If the people who did this wind up dying the same way I consider that to be justice.

  • Anonymous

    My condolences to the families and thinks it really stinks that her friends will not respect the families wishes my god get a clue.  Her family should have the final say don’t ya think??  If this does involve drugs which most likely it does I do not blame for the family for wanting all of the attention aimed at her daughter, these people they were dealing with are obviously dangerous and hard telling what more they could do.

    • Admin Person

       Because the family thinks they will lose money!! It’s not about money. It’s seems to be one of her friends that really cared!! A vigil is to remember a loved one after a tragedy. It’s a sign of respect why would the family have an issue with it? 

      • Anonymous

        Well maybe they do not want all the attention on this right now, you don’t know what they are dealing with!! This crime was horrific I am sure they are devestated and probably do not want to deal with this right now.  Their focus is probably on her daughter?? I think they are also concerned about their safety and the child’s safety.  I understand her friends wanting to do this I really do but also understand where the family is coming from.  

    • Anonymous

      No, the family should not have the final say, anyone who wants to can have a vigil and it sounds like there are many friends who care enough to do so. 

    • Anonymous

       Sometimes friends are more of a “real family” than one’s biological family….it sounds like these young people had many, many friends who really cared about them and were very involved in their lives. Those friends have every right to mourn their loss and remember their beloved friends with a vigil or whatever. Nobody is forced to go but those for whom it will bring comfort and togetherness should feel free to find that in this meaningful way. It seems to me that trying to prevent friends from mourning in their own way is unkind and perhaps even selfish….we do not OWN our children, especially when they become adults and have their own lives and circle of friends. Were I to lose one of my children, in whatever manner, I would fully expect their adult friends to mourn them in their own way without needing permission or even participation from me.

  • Anonymous

    It’s scary to think that our youth lead lives that brings these results.. I have always been a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. These peoples deaths will change many lives as it should, lets just hope it is for the best..

    • Anonymous

      Lugdon’s child will be affected, but don’t know if other lives will be changed.  Maybe.

  • such a tragity.what could they have possiably done to deserve to burn alive?I hope they catch whomever did this horriable act!

    • Anonymous

      If they were burned alive, it hasn’t been reported in the press.

    • Anonymous

      No one said they were alive when the car was set on fire, or even that the car was set on fire by anyone inorder to distroy evidence….it is just speculation at this point.

      • Anonymous

        actually, i believe it was said they were dead before the fire. (thank god for small miracles)

      • Anonymous

        “even if that car was set on fire by anyone in order to destroy evidence”? really? hmm i wonder why it caught on fire with 3 people inside and someone walking away from the car? Maybe the dude thought hey i got out im sure they will too…please dude we all know that car was set on fire to destroy the evidence or to make a bigger point to the public…hmm wonder why people arent talking as much as they should too police…

  • Anonymous

    ” They said they feared that their friends were dead because they got into a white Pontiac with Rhode Island plates after leaving a birthday party early Monday and afterward no one was able to get in touch with them.”

    I would first interview every single person who was at the birthday party.  Another thing … if I remember right, there wasn’t anyone found in the driver’s seat … WHY wasn’t there anyone in the driver’s seat? Maybe the driver was the guy that was seen running from the scene in the video. WHO was driving the Pontiac when they left the birthday party?

    My condolences go out to the family and friends of all three victims. I want to see whoever did this caught and locked up for what they did, they certainly don’t belong on the streets!

    • Anonymous

      gee, arent you on top of things

  • Anonymous

    Such deep condolences.  What kind of animal could do something like this to other humans? I hope they catch the s.o.b. and put him away for life..  So very sorry for your losses.

    • Anonymous

      Nick Sexton

      • Anonymous

        We are so lucky that you weren’t alive during WWII or you would be making the following posts:

        “Normandy”

        “Los Alamos”

        “Ultra”

        “Neptune”

        “Fat Man”

        “Big Boy”

        They had a saying in WWII, “Lose Lips Sink Ships”. You could learn from that saying.

        • As obsessive as you appear to be with people posting factual information, and as many times as I have seen you jump on someone for one piece of incorrect information, I feel it required of me to inform you that “Big Boy” is incorrect. The name you are looking for is “Little Boy”. Not sure how that managed to elude you. Now, you’ll understand if I take this time to gloat, right?

          • Anonymous

            Nice pick up. I made a mistake. Not the first and wont be the last. I try to post accurate information and source that information when necessary. In this case I made a mistake and you picked up on it.

          •  Not really a nice pick up, in my opinion. It was a slight mistake that anyone could have made an I think most people would have noticed it. Nothing fancy no matter how you look at it. Just, as I said, gloating. Good day.

          • Anonymous

            Incidentally the mistake did not take away from the point of the post which was “Loose Lips Sink Ships”.

            When you start posting about people that may or may not be involved you are starting to interfere with a criminal investigation. If BPD wanted to put out a person(s) name they would.

          • Anonymous

            Hey, I did not put the name out there on here.  A number of people have been putting this name up all week.  People ought to know who he is; someone to stay away from no matter what.

          • It is catch 22 . I would bet they Bangor PD. get more information about cases from reading these post than is lost.  I remember being threatened with a year in jail for tampering with a federal investigation lol The thing is I would have never knew about the investigation if they did not tell me . Even if you tell a drug dealer they are being watched most will not believe you and keep up business as usual .  

    • Anonymous

      Animals (the non-human kind) do NOT do these sorts of things. They kill to eat, to protect their territory, and to protect their young….in other words, for survival only. I hate it when people call vicious humans “animals.”  We should be so lucky that humans acted the same way that animals do. Unfortunately, humans have not evolved enough for that. 

      • Anonymous

        You do realize when a new male animal takes over a pack, that new alpha male kills all the young of the pack and starts all over again, replenisheing the pack with his own offspring.

        This is the same characteristic that too many men fall into when marrying a woman with children from a previous relationship. Some step children are hurt, harmed, beaten or killed by the new man in her life. It is a trait from the animal kingdom. 

        • Anonymous

          I hope this was an attempt at humor/sarcasm/facetiousness…..cause it is SO not an accurate explanation for animal infanticide. As for humans, there are as many, if not more, evil stepmothers as stepfathers.

          • Anonymous

            This is the usual scenario- a male has a group of females and a group of males will drive him out. Sometimes this is drawn out over a period of time; it’s a while before they drive him off and a new male is established. At that time, any unweaned infants in the group will usually be killed by the new male. This was first documented in the 60’s by Sugiyama.

            Taxonomic distribution
            Infanticide occurs in lots of different kind of birds including common ones like sparrows, and swallows. It also happens in rodents like mice and ground squirrels. You also see it in lions. It’s a similar sort of situation- females live in matrilineal groups and only the males disperse. A set of several males (usually related) live with the group and enjoy mating privileges until they’re driven out and then the new males kill all the babies.

  • Condolences and all the sympathy in the world for the families and friends of these people.  It is a great tragedy when one person passes away in an untimely manner, I cannot form a word that expresses the tragedy of three people dying especially in the manner they were taken from their family and friends.  I hope this is handled and settled quickly and justice is doled out to the person responsible for this.

  • Anonymous

    I find it sad that the bdn shuts down comments when someone idenifies or implies that Betsy Webb’s son beat a man to death (without naming names) and comments have not been shut down for the awful things that are being posted now.  Is it a class issue?  The gang banger, going out partying all night even though there are kids home vs the ivy league athlete…Just sayin.

    Kids make mistakes, they don’t deserve to die for them.  The reality of what these kids were involved in is probably more than the family can handle and some of them most likely will never accept that the lifestyle these three led most likely contributed to their demise–whether they deserved it or not!

    •  Hanna, do you have a link to the story about Betsy Webb’s son?

      • Anonymous

        Robert Greenleaf death….search Bangor Daily.

  • Anonymous

    And they used facebook as a source. A LOT… “according to their facebook pages…” GROSS! stop using FB stalking as a substitute for actual investigative reporting!  

  • Anonymous

    Condolences to the victims’ families and other loved ones affected by this horrible crime. May the killer(s) be brought to justice swiftly and completely.

  • Anonymous

    My heart goes out to all family members and friends of these young kids….it is trully heartbreaking..It is so sad to see what has happened over the years to the state of Maine but then again how long did people think the “evil” was going to stay away…it is shocking to think such horrific tragedy like this could happen 14 miles from me….this is stuff you hear about in the big cities not lil Bangor Maine.  all I know is as I repeatedly say it is NOT fair to keep any sort of info pictures anything to have the public help in finding this (or these) monster(s) that committed these murders….  It is time to set aside any of this drug talk.. that does not matter now.. what matters is finding the person(s) responsible and letting the outraged public deal with it!!  There is NO jail sentence that will be harsh enuf for this person(s). 
    Look around you does someone seem not right..nervous beyond the usual…seem like they are hiding something…in my eyes everyone is a suspect until they make arrest(s).  Personally I think it was more than the one persoon running or walking from the car.  Remember there were other vehhicles mentioned as being there prior to this horrific incident …who were they what were those vehicles???  Maybe if they or we had the opportunity to see the whole video someone would notice something helpful…..

    • Anonymous

      The more I read about this, the more I think that “drug talk” has something to do with the story and may help lead to the killer.

  • Al Brady

    lolipop graffiti gang!

    • judging by your name, sounds like you’re the leader of the Popsicle gang

      • Anonymous

        Oh’ Absolutely, thank for noticing!

      • Al Brady

         i fixed it… it was supposed to be ‘lolipop guild gang’ because of the graffiti in and around bangor

  • Anonymous

    we the people may be of more help than the police are giving us credit for

  • Al Brady

    the past charges have nothing to do with the fact they were murdered. however it can give us insight into what may have caused this.

  • Anonymous

    what provoked such mayhem?

    •  I think it was the picture of Borders with his shirt almost to his package showing off all his muscles.

  • Anonymous

    With great sadness, my prayers to families, friends and loved ones for their loss.. Family doesn’t always follow the familiar guidelines… I didn’t know the men involved, Condolences to their families and loved ones…With great sorrow I’m sorry to hear that Nicolle’s family is upset w/ vigil and fund raisers.. Many people loved her… Nicolle claimed many as her family..Please be kind to her MEMORY…She was a sweet child and lost most of all those she loved…if you don’t know her story , you didn’t know her,, The media can be less then kind…Past mistake don’t  deserve murder.. As for many of my family members they consider her FAMILY for 24 yrs…They will love her forever…and miss her for an eternity..

  • Anonymous

    Is anyone thinking about these young children that have lost their parents. I am thinking that all of you need to keep your ignorant comments to yourself these kids will someday look for information on their parents and they are going to find a bunch of ignorant rants from people who have no idea what they are even talking about. Just because someone makes bad choices in their life does not give anyone the right to kill them and it also does not give anyone the right to write a bunch of nasty shit about them after they have been killed. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND FRIENDS OF THESE THREE YOUNG PEOPLE.

    • Anonymous

      they will find what is the truth. at this point speculation

  • Anonymous

    This could have been any of our families and am sorry for their loss. Hopeful that the reporting prevents another loved one from being drawn into a dangerous situation. Am in 12-step recovery and they teach us, “Some die so others may live.”.  

  • Anonymous

    My deepest thoughts are with all the family members of these three that the world has lost. I only have one comment. The United States needs to do something real harsh to anyone involved in drugs or drinking while driving. To many loved ones are passing because of these types of things.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a shame these three young people are forever gone to their family and friends.  You can say they should have known better than to get involved with any kind of drugs, but they were young and may have been immature for their ages, and lived only in the moment, never giving a thought to the dark side of drug involvement when they first headed down that road – maybe as young teenagers.  Illegal drugs and the under-belly of society often go hand-in-hand and if you’re young and naive when you get too close to that black hole, you risk getting sucked into a life you never bargained for.  We don’t base the love we feel for our kids on what they do that’s right or wrong.  That’s just they way it is.

    • Anonymous

      This is why people need to talk about situations when they happen.  Talk to their family, kids or friends.  It is much easier to just shut off the news or walk away.  If it saves one young person’s life regarding the choices they make and outcomes, then it is worth the dialogue.  

  • Anonymous

    For all the people who posted below who are as upset about the Bangor Daily Rag’s comments about their “past” …The paper truly needs to learn to be more civil when it comes to how they write articles about people.  They do this all the time.  There was NO reason to post that.  They was victims and that should have been the end of the story.

    • Anonymous

      We place a value system on people, it’s like a rating,  there is the elite, the midlle class and the rest of the people who are judged.. now is it right to do that? Not really, yet I do everyday, I very much dislike the elite who think they are better than the rest of the people. so we all judge people.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, each and every one of us make judgments about people every day.  We have to.  Sometimes it’s survival to judge people.  Some of us just use a bit more tact when it comes to what we’re posting.  Whether or not I exercise my right to post my thoughts about what I “suspect” may be the cause of this case or not is not going to change the fact of what happened.

      • Anonymous

        Sounds like a wash:  You don’t like them; they don’t like you.

        • Anonymous

          I’m sure of that

    • HowdyNeighbor

      If they were involved in drugs and this was a drug crime, that is news. The BDN is a newspaper, not an obituary writing service.

      • Anonymous

        I agree….Many of us me included looked up the past history of Mr. Boarders and his girl friend as soon as I found out there names.  I have also tryed to find info on the people he was arested with in Mass… Not much out there, but I feel that If Mr. Boarders had been given a proper sentence by the courts for selling coke, he might not be dead today.  The courts like to give slaps on the wrist for doing very bad things.  The courts are somewhat at fault here I think…. Its just to bad that two other people had to go down with the bad guy….

        • HowdyNeighbor

           I, personally, would rather see child molesters in prison than drug dealers/users.

          • Anonymous

            they are all criminal. they all need to be punished for their actions. both affect our youth in long term ways

          • HowdyNeighbor

             If we had enough prisons, I would agree but child molesters do far more damage to children then drug dealers. Drug dealers typically prey on people who are older (even older children) and those people usually at least partially responsible for their actions. Child molesters are monsters who even sometimes prey on babies.

          • Anonymous

            it is sad that we have not enough prisons to hold our criminals….

  • There must be somebody out there who knows these kids and knows who they were with…..I hope this all comes out. I am so sorry for the loss of the loved ones. Love and prayers for all family and friends.

    • Anonymous

      Helene, by the way some have posted, it seems they want to solve this themselves, which is a mistake… From what I heard some people don’t want to talk to the police, yet they called themselves friends.

  • Anonymous

    This quote is from the article: 

    “Nicolle’s family is upset that a vigil and fundraising effort are being planned without their consent.”
    “They think it’s people trying to gain by exploiting their granddaughter,” Edwards said. “The family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop.”
    **********************************************************
    My comment is in response to the wishes of Nicolle’s family. What they are going through right now is excruciating and unbearable.

    Do you understand what “The family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop”  means?

    • Anonymous

      They aren’t planning a parade by their front door!

      I think different folks can celebrate her life/mourn in any way they want. If some folks want to get together and have a vigil and raise some money, more power to them.

      • Anonymous

        So in effect what you are saying is this…we the planners of the “vigil and fundraiser” don’t care about the wishes of the family. We are more interested in doing what we want family be d**mned.

        • Anonymous

           Who is “the family”? You have seen that her Mom is dead, her father is absent, and her sister is part of the group planning the vigil. Her foster family up north fully approves of the vigil and has said so on this board. Whose “wishes” are they supposed to care about? Someone who never cared about her until she was dead and front page news???

          • Anonymous

            I was split on this issue until I read about the sister being the only “family” and she wants it. so now I have totally changed my mind. If they feel they can do something for her child, go for it. just make sure you are above board as it looks like you will be watched.

          • Anonymous

            Ya, aunts, uncles or cousins who never helped her and let her go into foster care.  The mother died and her father is in prison for life.  Where were they when she needed them as a young girl.  It is not their choice now.  Go tend to your potatoes.

      • Anonymous

        Ms. Lugdon’s  family is upset that a vigil and fundraising effort are being planned without their consent.“They think it’s people trying to gain by exploiting their granddaughter,” Edwards said. “The family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop.”**********************************************

        Do you grasp this valid and justifiable request by Nicolle’s family?  Do you comprehend her family is “upset” with a public vigil and a money raising gig? They are asking whoever is responsible for suggesting the vigil and the money collection to “stop.”  It means, Back Off.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t understand how this would exploit the little girl.  So they raise some money and put it into an account for when she goes to college.  How could this be hurtful?  It would be a chunk of change when she is eighteen.

          • Anonymous

            someone else wanted to exploit it and got beat to the punch

        • Anonymous

           Oh, I understand their request. I just think it’s without merit.

        • Anonymous

          It sounds to me like her friends who are doing the vigil and fund raiser are also grieving in their own ways.  Further, it sounds like they are trying to turn their grief into something that can raise money to help this poor little child who has just lost her MOM.  Kudos to them in my book.  Let the family grieve in their way, let the friends grieve in their way.

          • Anonymous

            Oh yes….the child? Where is the child now?  How old?

          • Anonymous

            I’ve read several places where she has a child. I don’t recall how old and I wouldn’t have any idea where the child is now. Hopefully with loving family members or friends

          • Anonymous

            According to her friend’s postings, she has no loving family. 

          • Anonymous

            “Lugdon and Borders both have young daughters” from the news article we’re commenting on

        • Anonymous

          Nicolle had very little “family”. Her mother died 10 years ago, and her father is not in the picture. She has a biological sister who is fully involved in this vigil. The rest of her “family” were not involved in her life. She had foster family that were the people that raised her, and they fully support these causes that her friends are creating. If you don’t know the situation, is it really your business to say “Back Off”?? Nicolles friends WERE her FAMILY. I think they have a right to celebrate her life if they want to.

          • Anonymous

            QUOTE from the article:
            “Her family is upset that a vigil and fundraising effort are being planned without their consent.”
            “They think it’s people trying to gain by exploiting their granddaughter,” Edwards said. “The family of Nicolle Lugdon is asking for them to stop.”
            *********************************************************
            If her only family was her sister and foster parents…then who are these people that are referred to in the quote I posted??  Who are they? If they have nothing to do with Ms. Lugdon, why such a strong protest and resistance to a vigil and money collection drive??  (Is the money being collected at the vigil?)

          • Anonymous

            That’s exactly the point. WHO? She had very little family. The people that were involved in her life agree with what everyone is doing. The people who are coming out of the woodwork are the ones complaining. The people that were not involved. You have no right to have such a strong opinion on something that you have no clue about. To tell people what to do if you yourself do not know these people personally, it’s just not your place.

          • Anonymous

             I kinda believe readers of an article in a public newspaper don’t have to personally know the subjects of the article to contribute comments.  

          • Anonymous

             Right again….people can opine on any subject they want, whether they have a smidgen of a clue or not.  And once they are done opining, others can tell them how ignorant and inappropriate their comments are. AppleArmor is right on the mark, unless you can answer your own question about who these people are, you probably ought to “back off” telling the people who WERE in Nicolle’s life to “respect them” and let them call all the shots.  Do you know if they DESERVE respect or to have any say in this matter? Don’t be misled by the word “family”…..it doesn’t always carry much meaning in real life.

        • Anonymous

           I find your posts in this regard intimidating and slightly threatening…..”you don’t know what you are trifling with”…..”get the message”…..”Back Off.”  I hope there will be police protection for those who hold and attend this vigil….it sounds like they might need it. In the meantime, I suggest that YOU are the one who needs to “grasp this valid and justifiable” effort on the part of Nicolle’s friends to grieve, honor, and remember their friend and loved one. They are TOTALLY within their rights and are choosing a TOTALLY appropriate way to remember her. Yes, someone does need to “back off” but it is not those who are honoring her with a vigil.

          • Anonymous

            My posts aren’t intimidating or threatening. You’re being a bit of a drama queen. I doubt the vigil gathering will need police protection. My use of the word “trifling” implies that something is being planned with disregard for the family’s wishes.
             
            I suppose my use of “back off” might be a bit strong but it only suggested “the friends”  give more thought and consideration to the request of  Ms. Lugdon’s family

          • Anonymous

             More like a drama KING, please….and yes, you are right, fear and even a bit of paranoia is totally inappropriate for the current subject at hand. Given what happened to the people in that car, nobody who is connected with them should be feeling any level of fear right now. It is, after all, a kind and just world out there. 

    • Anonymous

      Everyone has their own way of mourning/celebrating lives lost. If a vigil is the best to help her friends, then carry on with it.

    • Anonymous

      Nikki’s family was her friends, she had hundreds of brothers and sisters and they want to remember her so let them do that as a whole

  • So I commented earlier to give my sympathies and condolences to the friends and families of the victims.  However I get back on three hours later to see people saying some of the most ignorant, intolerant and horrible things about these people who were ripped away from their friends and families because of a homicide!!  Every single person makes mistakes when they are younger.  I will admit that I don’t know ANY of these people personally, however I do know people affected by their deaths.  If any of the victims committed a crime in the past that they had either been convicted, acquitted or whatever, it was just that, the past.  No one deserves to be judged that way, and no one has the right to imply that anyone deserved what they got for the lifestyle they led.  I have a very very good idea that the people making these comments and assumptions WOULD NOT have the fortitude to stand up in front of the victims families and say it to their face.  So, in closing, I am pleading with everyone, if what you are about to post is not something you would say to the mothers and fathers of these victims, don’t post it here.  Again, I cannot fathom what the families of these victims are going through, and my prayers and best wishes go out to the families and friends of these three people.  I hope the people that are on here arm-chair judging the victims remember the anguish they caused people, and that karma comes back around to punish them for it.

    • Anonymous

      thank you

    • Anonymous

       I haven’t read any post that said that they “deserved it.” Perhaps some of the deleted posts said that, but I haven’t seen them.

      What I do see folks sharing is the sentiment that if you play with fire, you may get burned. There is a big difference between that and saying somewhat deserved it.

      No one deserves to die like this. But if the rumor that there were drugs involved is true, this outcome shouldn’t be a complete shock.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you.  You said it better than I could…..

      • Anonymous

        Yes, agreed.  No one deserves it, of course not, it’s horrible.  Pointing out that drugs were involved or that they had prior convictions is a natural part of any investigation/reporting, if they had no prior criminal past, it would have stated that as well, sadly that wasn’t the case.  If I were directly affected by this tragedy I certainly would not be trolling the comment section, this is a place to go for discussion, not for condolences or peace of mind, or answers.  And all of the pleading in the world will not stop people from stating their opinions no matter how insensitive they are.  It is impossible for people to ignore the fact, that if indeed this was drug related (and there doesn’t seem to be much doubt, but we will see), than this could have been avoided by better choices, different lifestyle, different crowd to hang with, ESPECIALLY being a parent, if you are a young parent you have to grow up faster and put the partying days behind you and focus on being a parent first (at any age, but it seems these poor kids were all young).  Nothing good can or will come out of this horrible event, but let it be a teaching moment for all with teens….tragic things can and will happen to you if this is the path you choose, unfortunately even if you choose it for just a very short time, or even if you are just kind of on the outside of this scene.  So sad, makes me want to pack up my kids and head for a deserted island somewhere to keep them safe from harm.

    • Anonymous

      I have been reading this all morning. I do not/have not seen anyone say they got what they deserved.

      • Anonymous

        95% of the people are being polite, thats why

    • Anonymous

      So when we find out who did this. you think their past should not be taken in consideration? what they did in the past is in the past?

  • Anonymous

    BDN–this question is for you!  Why do you and other media feel you have the right to call grieving families?  Leave them alone!

    • Anonymous

      Because that’s how you write stories, which sell papers/draw eyeballs to the site.

      The BDN isn’t a not-for-profit.

    • Anonymous

      Because the Public aways helps in solving crimes.  It seems that since people aren’t talking who are in the know and could help Police with solving this crime, these people didn’t really matter to them.

      • Anonymous

        And how do you know “It seems that since people aren’t talking who are in the know” exactly?

        • Anonymous

          good question

          • Anonymous

            So you have an answer?

          • Anonymous

            I have a theory, It’s that they  were killed by Borders gun.. Never ever show  a weapon to intimidate unless you are willing to use it right then and there. thats my advice and I bet thats what happened, someone took it from him who wasn’t scared to use it.

          • Anonymous

            Your right push….I give up….put your theories up all you want….speculate to your hearts content….you just read a pleading from a family member to stop the speculation and guessing….you even posted a response to it but you really didn’t read it because you continue to post rumor, speculation….I sincerely hope that you never ever experience what these families are going through and please don’t say “it would never happen” because I bet if you asked Harmonyward (Nikki’s sister) they didn’t think it would ever happen to them either.

      • Anonymous

        It reminds me of the song Dirty Laundry where all the media cares about is the story. These were real people with families who loved them.  If a reporter ever called me at a time like this, I’d tell them in a low whisper that I had something important to tell them.  Then, with their ear to the phone, I break their ear drum with a very loud whistle. 

  • Roy Gutfinski

    Let us all pray for an end to violence and for comfort to the loved ones.

    • Anonymous

      One of the more sensible comments on this thread.

  • Anonymous

    I for one want to thank the BDN for bringing this story to the front page.. It effects everyone and the story doesn’t just belong to the families. If this stuff is happening in our area the people have the right to know.

  • Anonymous

    I am utterly disgusted by the discussion left on this page. What is wrong with you people? If the victims were members of my family and these are the kinds of comments being posted on an aritcle identifying victims of a MURDER…..I mean, seriously. Who, exactly, do you people think you are? Stay classy Bangor! 

    • Anonymous

      Why is the truth such a bitter pill to swallow?? I have a blue truck, I can call it a red truck or any other color for that matter, yet what I have in reality is a blue truck

      • Anonymous

        What truth push? The truth hasn’t been released yet by the police. If you want to call perving FaceBook as a way to gain the truth then your blue truck really is a different color then what you think it is.

        • Anonymous

          Perving facebook as you call it  is define by the posters themselves.  It is like a history book, don’t you think.. The truth in their own words, action and photos. Research is not perving, You leave you door unlocked and people are going to wonder in to see whats there.. Now you have me curious and I’ll have to go look.

          • Anonymous

            I agree that Facebook when done with honest reflection can be a useful look into a person everyday life. But like Wiki it can be changed and modified at will. It can even be used to post things that aren’t true about the poster so the accuracy is suspect. If I wanted to learn about the real person I would want to sit down with family and friends and listen to them tell me and then search the public record including Facebook.

            Just my humble opinion.

      • Guest

        I think you’re truck is white.

      • Anonymous

        I agree with you and like your example.  If you’ll excuse the comparison, and my going off topic a little, it’s kind of like Congress calling healthcare reform the Affordable Care Act.

  • #1-My deepest condolences to the family! #2 WOW I am so sorry to the family that the newspaper put their records in this report. I think that it’s pretty ignorant, I believe the world could of lived without knowing that! #3 I am no detective but it’s pretty obvious they know who did this because the kids were seen getting into this vehicle at the party so I am pretty sure people noticed ALL the people getting into the car & driving off. Plus they have the surveillance   camera to match up the identity to what people seen. Also I don’t think they’ve released the owner of the vehicle?! Is it the person who committed this heinous crime? In cases like this I do wish Maine had the death penalty!! The person who did this would probably do it again & again. I hope the police find this psycho soon and get him behind bars!!!

    • PaulNotBunyan

      You’re trying to connect a lot of information that could turn out to be of no use in solving this. So far we know that they have managed to identify the 3 victims. The greatest likelihood about the vehicle is that it’s the one Lucas had been using for some time. It could be owned, borrowed, rented or even stolen. Odds are that tracing it won’t lead police to the killers. If Dan was the target it could be that somebody was watching and waiting for him to leave that party. So maybe that car was followed and intercepted but the same thing would have happened to anybody he left the party with. In that case somebody going to the circle K with him for snacks and smokes would get killed just for being with him. And then you have to consider the possibility that Lucas was the target and he was being followed. It’s not always about what you did. It can be about what some evil person THINKS you did. So anyway I don’t think it’s “pretty obvious they know who did this”. But I do hope they get it solved.

      • Anonymous

        maybe there was no target and certain events lead to the killings. If these people were shot, my first question would be who brought the gun to the party? Ironic as it may sound someone may have brought the weapon they themselves were killed with there.

        • PaulNotBunyan

           Yes, that’s another possibility. It reinforces the point I was making. The information we have about police work on this so far only shows they were able to identify the victims. Whatever else they have is still a secret. I don’t doubt the things I hear about them searching the cemetery and so on but that doesn’t mean they found anything that will help solve this. Knowing where and how they were killed is not the same as knowing who killed them.

    • It is sad the put an arrest record in the paper. Did you ever think many kids are on the edged now maybe smoking pot in JR. High? Maybe we can help scare some straight before it is too late. Yes should be taught in ever school from grade 7 to 12 . Look get in with the wrong crowd and bad bad stuff happens.

      • Anonymous

        While that may be nice and correct, it is not in the school curriculum.  It’s a parents job.

        • Anonymous

          yes it is. however, some or most parents are niave to the facts. we somehow need to let our young people know this is never a good choice

      • Anonymous

        I am getting a mixed message here. do you agree or not that they should have released their records?

        • Hard call but yes . People have to know. I know it is hurtful to the families . But those people are gone . Look at what drugs do to people it ruins lifes . Some die . It it could just save one life or even help get one person on the right track it will be worth the pain . Even the families might agree when they have some time to heal.

          • Anonymous

            ok. yes I agree. I was just not understanding totally your post.

  • Anonymous

    When Dr. Petit was asked about closure, by a reporter, after the conviction of the men that had raped and slain his family; replied, “the man who came up with the term Closure is an idiot” (I believe I have the quote right, it has been sometime since I read it).

    The only thing that heals the sense of loss is time.

    Lastly, I am sure there are some out there that are thinking negatively about these slain people’s checkered past: However it is a tragedy that they will never have chance to change, grow, mature and expeirience, the pains and joy of a long life. Very few deserve to have their live cut short. My prayers forhealing to all effected and especially to the daughters – May they grow up to have a long, healthy and happy life.

  • Anonymous

    Dr. William Petit, replied to a reporter, after the men that had slain his family were convicted, “the man that came up with the term closure is an *****”.  

    For people effected by this sense of loss. time is the great healer.

    There are some people who will be thinking that these people’s checkered pass and life styles helped lead them down this road: However, it is tragic – whenever anyone’s life is cut short and they do not have a chance to change, grow, mature and expierience the pains and joys of a long life.

    My prayers for healing to all those effected by this event. And may the daughters have a long, healthy and happy life.

  • Nicole’s Family and Friends from Northern Maine most def. loved her and cared about her! may u rest in peace!!! heaven now has one of the most beautiful angels ever!!!!! RIP Nic!

  • Anonymous

    I always wonder what good these crime reports do. These deaths are sad, but they don’t affect most of the people reading this report, though a lot of people seem to love to wade in with their opinions about  what they know nothing about. Meanwhile all of this must be rough on the people that knew,or cared about these young people. Is it really necessary to make a big show on death and crime. There is really not much to report. When they catch the perp, it will start all over again and we will end up learning all types of usless information about the perp, so that he can collect a scrapbook about his crime an enjoy the attention. I think the attention we give criminals works to encourage them. I would be happier if we did not hear more than when the perp is arrested,  and then what the verdict was, and then nothing more.

  • Why does it matter if they are trying to fund raise, they are friends that loved her, what really matter is that they find this man who did this to these 3 people and there family. Bailey and other are only trying to fund raise to help with the baby she has left behind, and any other expenses the family needs, no one should be trying to gain anything from this, and I doubt any one is doing it to exploit Nicolle. Let her rest in peace, she would have wanted this in her memory, and I think she deserves it at least. 

  • Anonymous

    to all the families im sorry for your loss. these people were to young and nobody deserves to die in such a manner. I really dont see the need to show these peoples criminal convictions. We all have demons nobody is better than anyone else.  people make there choices in life, sometimes it leads to bad things. All people need to do is learn from it. take all this evil and make something good out of it. maybe a young kid will see all this and decide to make better choices . i see nothing wrong with having a gathering for this girl if its done with respect and any money collected goes to her family. If certain people dont wanna go dont go simple as that. i commend her friend for doing what she is doing. I truly hope they find the person or persons responsible for this cowardly act. i feel for the families . Know matter what bad things these people have done in there lives they deserve to be remembered or there lives even celebrated by the ones that knew and loved them. R.I.P

  • Anonymous

    The most disgusting thing about reading all of these awful comments is that these people have families that are reading them. Nicolle wasn’t a bad person, so why are people putting her down. Maybe she got mixed up in some bad things these past few months, but she wasn’t always like that. Some people have good memories of her. Her with her family, her friends, and her daughter. Why do people have to disrespect those good memories. Nicolle wasn’t an “addict”, she was a girl who got a little lost. She had a good heart, and you couldn’t be around her and not be affected by her contagious personality and smile. Have some respect for all of us, her friends and her family that are mourning OUR Nicolle that WE KNEW. Not this Nicolle you are reading about..

    • Anonymous

      Look I knew Nikki too, and I dont say she is a bad person but there were times when I constantly asked her and begged her to stop hanging with the wrong crowd. She was a good person and ya she made mistakes, hell ive made a few too but its the people she was associating with that had me worried. I loved that girl to death, and for people to get offended because people are commenting about the story putting out their own opinions and thoughts is stupid. I comment and i read these things and I follow this story because one im not in maine anymore and two I want to know what the hell happend to my lil sniper and Im curious what people think happend to her.

    • Anonymous

      Comment sections for articles are an open forum. Therefore, there will be a cross-section of all manner of comments.

      You say “Nicholle wasn’t a bad person.” If anyone is indicating that she was a bad person, I haven’t seen it yet in any of the comments.
       
      Do you remember when another beautiful young mother from Maine was murdered in NH? She was 20 years old and had a 14 month old daughter. She was hit over the head and duct taped, thrown in the trunk of her car and thrown into a nearby pond. She may still have been alive when thrown into the pond. Her killers left her baby in the back seat of her car, alive. The circumstances of her death was a drug deal. She was actually the one doing the selling. Her family was shocked with the drug angle of the young and beautiful daughter and mother.

      Another beautiful 26 year old Maine woman lost her life in a drug related shootout in NH last summer. She was a high school standout athlete. A police chief lost his life in the shootout. The beautiful young woman and her boyfriend (he died also) were selling drugs out of his house in NH. Her family was shocked and devastated when learning of the extent of this young woman’s involvement in the drug world. She actually purchased the gun by which she was killed by. 

      I think we could all say of  Nicholle and these other young women…they weren’t bad people. One was bound and thrown into a pond, another shot and one burned up in a vehicle. The world of drugs is a violent world. Nobody should ever be naive enough to think they won’t be walking a very dangerous road if they choose to enter a world filled with that kind of violence.

      I have no doubt that the families and friends of the two examples I listed had “good memories” of those young women also. 

  • Anonymous

    800 people showed up to Rev Carlsons funeral. He was a serial child molester. Please BDN don’t allow comments about Rev Carlson. Let the Family greive in peace.. Drugs and Abuse are both crimes that need to be talked about in public in open forums period or it will continue to happen over and over again

    • Anonymous

      Absolutely. Every one of us have made serious wrong choices in our lives. There is always a price to pay. If this saves someone else they did not die totally in vain. It is not about them as much as my grandchildren or yours. This could have been my family member as quickly as theirs.

    • Anonymous

      There were not 800 people at Carlson’s funeral.  Check the fact.

  • Anonymous

    Nicole was my best friend from junior high school’s grandaughter. I never got to meet her but I knew her mother very well. I used to have her at my house a lot when she was a small child. I am so sorry this senseless murder happened.  My heart goes out to her family and many friends. I will keep you all in my prayers.

  • I never understood . Back in high School they use to play this game punch you in the arm. I did not want to play I said hey if you hit me again I will punch you in the mouth as hard as I can. I was hit again . Boy had to go to the orthodontist and I was kicked out of school. I was hit at least 10 times by this kids before. Yes it wrong they were killed . Point is why? Sometime lifestyle choices are partly to blame.

    • Anonymous

      I understand what you’re saying.  Still, anything the victims did is probably so inconsequential when compared to their being murdered and incinerated in a car, that the words blame and wrong would seem to be poor choices in describing their conduct.  That’s just my opinion. 

      But I agree that their lifestyle choices likely had something to do with their deaths.

      • I agree .  Just saying it could have happened to anyone some take more risks . I feel bad this happened . I am not going to draw a BB gun on a cop  . Sometimes things can be prevented .

      • Anonymous

        blame and wrong may be poor choices. but the truth is, someone brought this on, knowingly or not. if he narc’d or not, someone just had to ‘think’ he did, to prove something. I am sorry this has made it to bangor. but for people to say their past are their pasts it niave. live by the sword, die by the sword. I am sorry for their loved ones, but they made their choices. what I want to know is where does luke come into this whole thing. I looked at his FB and neither of the others are even ‘friends’ of his…..

  • Maybe the police should be at cascade park with a drug dog . Maybe they could get some leads from friends. 

    • Anonymous

      Roflmbo

  • Anonymous

    A little bit of word of advice for the family/friends of the victims, don’t read the newspapers or watch the news for awhile, you are going to hear and see hurtful things. It might be true or not, the bottom line is 3 people were killed those victims have families that are hurting right now! No need to be calling out pass convictions, what we need to be doing is comforting the family and helping them thru the time of need. From a family member who’s nephew was murdered 2 years go the pain it unbelievable and hurts the most is to see what people will write and say about the family and victim(s). Myself and family realized the best thing was to not read the paper or watch the news for awhile, because it just broke up down even more. Please people respect the families and what they have to say, it’s not about you, it is about them, they are the ones who have to live with this every signal day of their lives! I am praying for the victims families and hope with time they are able to find some peace~

  • Anonymous

    I have no desire to learn about their past and I am quite sure their families already know. In a nutshell, that is not news to me. When you have something more tangible to report like oh I don’t know, finding the scum that did this, please don’t waste anymore of our time! Let’s not forget who the victims are here. May all three of you rest in peace.

    • Anonymous

      so the victims past has nothing to do with nothing. so when we find this scumbag, and I am being nice, his past will have nothing to do with it, right?

      • Anonymous

        not saying the past doesn’t mean anything and besides this isn’t past..this is present day murder.. they were killed  not the other way around…

        • Anonymous

          I agree, and nothing in ‘our life” agrees with this kind of punishment. however, your past does tend to catch up with you. the victims past, and the murders past all come into play here. you cant have one w/o the other, you cant be hypacritacle

          • Anonymous

            That may be but doing drugs is a far cry from murder, alot of people have drug problems but they don’t expect to be murdered…Alittle compassion…Wow you must have one perfect family…

          • Maybe people who do drug should expect to be murdered. it might change thier mind about doing it.

          • Anonymous

            Wow did you really think before you said  that..Maybe people who say ignorant thing   should expect to have their tongues removed and they would stop and think before they speak…

          • Just saying if we drilled it through these people heads do drugs and you may die . It might change a few minds. I bet of most drug addicts new they would become one the would have never started in the first place.

          •  “IF”?

            Never heard of the D.A.R.E program, have you? The fed has been trying to scare people away from drugs for almost a century. It hasnt worked. It wont work. Prohibition is a farce.

          • Anonymous

            Its not like they walk out the door expecting to die, but its more like as a drug addict you know the consequences if you screw over a drug dealer

          • Anonymous

            Nick Sexton

          • Anonymous

            If you owe one of these dealers alot of money and im not talking these little dealers that sell pot, but the dealers that sell the big time stuff, well they wont just slap you on the hand or tickle your tummy, you will be killed. So in a sense, you know the consequences if you keep adding up your bill or you steal from them. Hell sometimes it even takes you trying to sell some on their turf

          • Anonymous

            wow are you outta touch. drugs, crime, death….

          • Anonymous

            I am Far from perfect. but if  having a drug prob you dont expect to be murdered, you are the one living a fantasy. If you pay for your drugs and keep your mouth shut, ya you dont expect to be murdered. but even be suspect of something other than that and yes, you should expect concequences

          • Anonymous

            I think we will find out in the end, that this is less about drug use and more about drug dealing. In many ways, they are two different animals. Dealing takes everything to a whole different (very dangerous) level because of the incorporation of money in addition to drugs. Dealers will kill if they are owed money.

          • Anonymous

            So true.

  • Anonymous

    Hey someone posted on FB site for BDN that it was reported to WVII tv 7  that the car belonged to and was driven by someone named Nick Sexton of Brockton, Massachusetts.   

    • Anonymous

      Rough town second only to Lynn Lynn city of sin ya never go out the way ya come in ))

      • i lived there for decades,i never had any problems with crimes

        like i posted before, drug dealers and drug users live in their own world,
        law abiding citizens live in their own world.  
        very seldom do the worlds collide in the same city

        say i get up to go to work. i am driving down warren ave and the police have a sidewalk taped of , because of the dead bodies from drive bys on packard st.,near the old AP,  i simply go down forest ave and drive around on one of the side streets, i go to work.  i m slightly delayed going to work. thats all

        Nick Sexton ? does not ring a bell. brockton has 17-24 murders a year. drive by shootings, driveway shootings,

        • Anonymous

          Pit bull from Brockton makes sense to me ? ))

        • Anonymous

          “brockton has 17-24 murders a year”?

          Not even close

          1999 – 9
          2000 – 2
          2001 – 5
          2002 – 9
          2003 – 10
          2004 – 6
          2005 – 10
          2006 – 8
          2007 – 11
          2008 – 7
          2009 – 9
          2010 – 9
          2011 – 9
          2012 – 1 (Year to date)

          http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Brockton-Massachusetts.html
          http://www.enterprisenews.com/news/cops_and_courts/x1694765965/Brockton-murders-in-2010

          • add in the murders brockton residents committed in other communities

            15 brockton murders in 1993
            http://www.enterprisenews.com/topstories/x775168268/OPINION-Brockton-is-winning-its-war-on-violent-crime

            BROCKTON — 52 murders in Brockton from 2007 through 2011,
            http://www.enterprisenews.com/news/x775167438/Brockton-police-
            working-to-solve-eight-murder-cases-open-since-2007

            See if you can count how many murders in brockton from 2011-2012 while reading this story…i lost count… :
            http://www.enterprisenews.com/topstories/x775168268/OPINION-Brockton-is-winning-its-war-on-violent-crime

          • Anonymous

            Pit Bull you said “brockton has 17-24 murders a year” and that is factually not true. In fact it’s a lie.

            The City of Brockton has never had more than 11 murders in any one year between 1999 and 2011. You can’t add years together to get to the numbers you want. You cannot add murders in other communities committed by people that live in Brockton to get to the number you want.

            The numbers cited above in my post are the FBI Uniform Crime Index

            Your first link is for a single year 19 years ago.

            Your second link is 5 years of murders added together. Again, not one of those years is “17-24 murders a year”.

            Your third post title is “OPINION: Brockton is winning its war on violent crime” and states the same number of murders that I cite above. Gee, do you think the number of murders might have come from the same place? Maybe the FBI Uniform Crime Index that shows on average Brockton had 8 murders per year between 1999 and 2011.

            Let’s say that again….BROCKTON MASSACHUSETTS AVERAGED 8 MURDERS PER YEAR BETWEEN 1999 & 2011.

          • i am white flight from brockton
            brockton’s what , 75%non white now.  white fight is still not over from what i am told

            52 murders in the last 5 years. THAT is winning?

            wbet/wxbr is about to become a spanish speaking radio station

          • Anonymous

            “i am white flight from brockton brockton’s what , 75%non white now.  white fight is still not over from what i am told”

            White alone – 40,268 (42.9%)
            Black alone – 27,939 (29.8%)
            Hispanic – 9,357 (10.0%)
            Other race alone – 8,329 (8.9%)
            Two or more races – 5,496 (5.9%)
            Asian alone – 2,131 (2.3%)
            American Indian alone – 253 (0.3%)
            Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone – 37 (0.04%)

            Source – http://www.city-data.com/city/Brockton-Massachusetts.html
            ~~~~~
            “52 murders in the last 5 years. THAT is winning?”

            That was the opinion piece you linked to. That piece was written in May of this year and reflecting on the 1 murder Brockton has had year to date and how in prior years it was never below 9.
            ~~~~~
            “wbet/wxbr is about to become a spanish speaking radio station”

            And radio stations change formats when the prior format becomes unprofitable or they see a need that isn’t being filled. It happens all the time and I doubt this was the first radio station in eastern Massachusetts to change to a Spanish speaking format. I would bet that eastern Massachusetts has had Spanish speaking stations for 23-30 years. I would even wager that the closer you get to Boston the more likely you are to find Korean speaking cable channels.

          • brockton schools  75% minority
            brockton hospital 75% minority births  

          • Anonymous

            First I would ask for the source of your stats.

            Second the hospital in Brockton serves a population larger than just Brockton so it doesn’t surprise me that minority births are higher. And if minority births are up, then minorities in the public schools would also be rising.

            But let’s go back a couple of steps. PitBull made a statement about the murder rate being double and triple what it really is year over year. That was pointed out and the poster then makes another inaccurate post about minorities making 75% of the cities population when it makes up less approximately 57%.

            Last time I checked this article was about a triple murder of three people that do not fall into a minority group. The one name that has been bantered around is also not a name common to a minority group.

            So why are we talking about minority groups and crime?

          • How many are not counted? Take a look at who is walking down the street and get a better idea who is around you than those stats. Not a perfect world his stats might not be 100% right on but we get the Idea. After working at the Big E in Springfield and almost getting mugged. I never went to Brockton without packing.

          • Anonymous

            How many of what are “not counted”?

            Every city in the U.S. has areas that are considered not safe to be in at certain times of the day or night. Bangor, Brewer, Augusta, Lewiston, Portland ALL have areas that one should not find themselves alone in.

            For 2010 you stood an equal chance of being murdered in Portland Maine as you did in Brockton Massachusetts.

            Portland – 6 (9.6/100,000)Brockton – 9 (9.7/100,000)

          • When compared to Portland (about the same size city) it is still bad.

          • Anonymous

            Portland has almost 30,000 fewer people living in it then Brockton.

            Compared to Brockton, Portland is 84% white.

            For 2010 the number of Murders was:

            Portland – 6 (9.6/100,000)
            Brockton – 9 (9.7/100,000)

            So for the year 2010 one could say that you stood an equal chance of being the victim of murder in Portland as Brockton.

      • brockton has a secluded middle class/upper class wealthy  areas…something most maine communities dont have

    • PaulNotBunyan

       Not exactly like that. Owned by his girlfriend and he regularly drove it up here to the Bangor area. Very limited information. It would be nice if some reporter could find him and ask a few questions. That is if he’s alive.

      http://www.wvii.com/stories.html?SKU=20120815170606&textsize=large

      • Anonymous

        Betcha he says it was stolen.

    • Brockton is a bad city. I had a car stripped in the police station parking lot.  Police park lol the park police were laid off at the time.

      • that must have been about 1992ish? 

        • I think 1993 Long story kinda ties into other I post lol. I a so glad i do not drink.  The ex took my car and went to Brockton while having me arrested for domestic assault I did not do.  I took the plates off the car she got mad and lied to the PO. funny thing was while I went to jail the PO. Gave her the plates to the car registered in my Name .  All politics   In MR. Almy  way to try to get 100% conviction rates in domestic issues he does not care about the truth. Lucky for me we still have decent Judges .

  • Anonymous

    The drug culture is getting bigger and meaner in Bangor.  The people in Bangor who have played around with small time stuff better watch out.

  • Anonymous

    BANGOR – Sources tell ABC-7 and FOX Bangor News, that
    a Brockton, Massachusetts man by the name of Nick Sexton was known to drive the
    vehicle involved in Monday’s triple-homicide to Bangor, frequently and that the
    car belonged to the man’s girlfriend.Officials discovered three badly
    burned bodies Monday morning in a scorched Pontiac found in the parking lot of a
    Target Industrial Circle business.Just yesterday, local residents told ABC 7
    and FOX Bangor News that they saw ‘that same Pontiac’ in New Capehart hours
    earlier, and on other occasions.NOW sources are pointing to the sedan’s
    potential driver.Tonight, sources tell us a that Sexton regularly drove the
    four-door sedan with Rhode Island tags up to the Bangor area.Bangor police
    have confirmed grainy surveillance video caught someone walking away from the
    burning car before 4 am Monday.Officials haven’t made any arrests, nor have
    they released the victims’ identities.Still, friends and family of one local
    woman, Nicolle Lugdon, are worried about her fate.Witnesses put Lugdon at 15
    Bolling Drive, getting into the Pontiac early Monday, and never
    returning.She’s said to have a very young daughter.Those close to Lugdon
    have already planned a vigil for next Friday night at Cascade Park in Bangor.

    • HowdyNeighbor

      You just committed copyright infringement.

      • How?  They stated “ABC-7 and FOX Bangor News.”

        • HowdyNeighbor

           You copied/pasted an article verbatim from another website. That’s copyright infringement.

          • No I didn’t, they did. And they gave the credits.  Plus, the BDN runs articles “verbatim” from other news papers all the time.

          • HowdyNeighbor

             When the BDN does it, they have written permission. You did not. Read more about copyright law here: http://www.copyright.gov/

            Please respect the copyrights of others. Copying/pasting large amounts of articles is a violation of federal copyright law. Violations carry a minimum penalty of $750 per offense and, with willful offenses, $10K or more.

  • These people certainly didn’t deserve to die.  However, when you are involved with certain crowds that are involved in illegal activities, you risk of being harmed or killed certainly increased.  If you’re up at 300 in the morning, you are either working or up to something.  If you are in an empty parking lot on the edge of town at 3AM, that something is probably illegal.  Again, they didn’t deserve to die, but I doubt any of them were dragged out of bed or out of work.

  • Anonymous

    I graduated with Lucas and he was a very nice guy. We went to a smaller school so everybody in the class was pretty close growing up. He was the type of guy that got along with everybody and would  joke around a lot to make people laugh. We were not close, but he was type of person to stick up for me just because we graduated together and grew up together in the same class. I just saw him at my 10 year class reunion and to me he was the same Lucas from the 9th grade, 6th grade and 2nd grade that I remembered. Time had passed, but he was the same friendly Lucas that I always remembered.  I told my husband how glad I was to see him because it had been 10 years since I talked to him last. One memory that sticks out was from Elementary school, Lucas that was sliding down a hill during the winter and broke either his arm or leg or something and was pretty proud of it when he returned back to school. Even though I was not close with him, it was sickening to hear this news.  My heart goes out to his family and close friends.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, so Nick Sexton’s name has come up before.  His car now according to news.  Suppose he set all three up and it was suppose to be him.  Nick Sexton.

    • Admin Person

      If he killed three people in a car he’s known to drive, he’s not very smart. I wonder if the police have talked to him yet. I would assume they have unless he’s ‘on the run’

      Edit: I guess I misread your question. Not likely.. “here you take my car and go meet these guys down the road”

      I think Dan was the ‘target’ (purely speculative)

      • Anonymous

        A lot of people on the streets seem to know who did it, don’t understand what’s taking pd so long.

        • Anonymous

          Getting evidence other than hearsay and opinion?

      • Anonymous

        Most criminals aren’t very smart or they wouldn’t be criminals

  • Surely the children of these individuals will someday look for more information online about what happened to their parents and stumble across this atrocity of a comment board. My sincere condolences go out to the family and friends of those lost. Nobody deserves to be murdered and I hope that justice is swift and complete. My thoughts are with you all.

    • Anonymous

      they will find what is the truth. at this point, speculation, wonder, curiosity.

      •  And never be able to ask their parents what’s true and what isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    Yes to all ur questions it would be a much better world. A d

  • The reason the BDN brought up the drug charges/convictions is very relevant…it’s a common denominator. At least 2 of the 3 dealt drugs and were convicted of it at least once. These murders are probably drug related. Either these 3 were trying to rip off someone higher up the food chain, or they were moving in on someone’s territory. Obviously the police are looking into this. The point is maybe they didn’t didn’t deserve to be murdered, but they were probably not innocent bystanders either. How many honest, decent, hard working people (or nuns or priests) are murdered in this way?

  • Anonymous

    I want to thank the Police forfinally releasing the names of the victims now the families can start the grieving and healing process…although to be healed ..i dont think there is ever a complete healing on an issue as this..I donot think it really matters as to what past convictions have to do with this….if it were a past conviction within the past few months possibly but something from years ago…come on now…I will also again say we need to convey our deepest sympathies to the families of these people who were tragically murdered although there is NO reason out there to in cold blood murder 3 young people and then set a fire to try to hide any and all evidence that may be helpful in finding the “killer(s)”  and once again why is the public not able to see any videos involved as to all vehicles that were there and the person seen walking away….in my eyes from what I have read throughout this somebody out there knows something that could help in the arrest of the person(s) involved in this heinous crime but why isnt the public able to help..in as serious as a crime as this somebody needs to stand up and not be afraid…sometimes it is the smallest of things a person might see that could pop this wide open and the murderer caught and dealt with just too bad there is no capital punishment in Maine.  In the bible it says ..an eye for an eye….and we know the rest….

  • back to my point,relevant to this story:
    the bangor murders is a drug user/drug dealer story
    that is their  world, their world seldom collides with
    law abiding people.

    the murders in bangor? ,it is a non story from the perspective
    of law abiding bangor citizens.  in simple terms:who cares what
    what happens in the drug user’s world. 

  • Anonymous

    All of us human beings make “lifestyle choices” as we go through life. Some of those “choices” increase the threats to life and safety. Drive a car at 75 mph, after drinking to excess, and there is a significantly large possibility of your life being shortened, due to choices you made.

    It is undeniable, to anyone who can read, that to be involved in the drug use community, can lead to significantly shorter lives, in many different, and often violent, ways.

    Criminal records of adults are public information, and are often relevant to current situations. It is totally expected that any news sources reporting on this subject would examine the criminal records of those involved.  Facebook is another “very public place”. Those who post on Facebook, with some expectations of “privacy” should know better. Facebook is a very public domain, routinely used by investigators of crimes. If you don’t want something known, dont say it on Facebook.

    • Anonymous

       Most of the pictures of the guns and drugs was from Nate Rickers album with Dan tagged. He quickly made it private after people started checking the facebook pages and noticing the guns/drugs and so on. Hope BPD has some screen captures of this stuff, maybe then they can break some of this up before it leads to similar situations. And it will if people dont start stepping in. Too many idiots around here are “playing thug” lately, and no one seems to want to say anything about it or the rampant drug abuse around here. If you do, some jackass throws out the “oh, you must be perfect” line.

  • Anonymous

    It seems that our area has been changing drastically lately, and I am afraid it is only going to get worse. We are no longer in the outer reaches we are a target.  A target of new area for the bad elements in the northeast to get their dirty little claws into. We need to have more effort spend into warning our youth that things are different outside our little world and social networking is only fueling their fire., and judging the victims is not going to make it go away… RIP to the victims of this horrendous crime and shame on the people blaming them! Catch these scum and show them that we are people who will not tolerate your sick ways and stay away!

  • CG

    History repeats it’s self

  • CG

    Birds of feather folck together

    • Anonymous

      It’s ‘Flock’. If you’re going to bash somebody you clearly don’t know, learn how to spell first. 

  • Anonymous

    Nikki was my sister……my mother was her forster mother for the past seven years….she graduated high school with us…went to college….I was the one with her for that surgery that put the plate in her arm that helped identify her…..I like to remember my sister not as the junkie you all so kindly lol describe which by the way let me thank you evil heartless people for posting your ignorant opinions during mine and my families time of pain….shame on you all…..Nikki some how ended up with bad people doing bad things……just the past nine months of her life….literally nine months of her life was all it took for her to meet these people …get involved her their drugs and end up dead….so what your saying is because someone convinced my sister to try something and she ended up knowing these people who obviously are not good….they burn people for god sakes……but because of nine months out of my beautiful sisters life …..that its her own fault…shame on her…bye bye….shame on you all and may god have mercy on all your souls…..for you are heartless……my number is 592 5709 if anyone from the BANGOR DAILY would like to contact me and know who my sister really was I would be more than happy to speak to her….we were her family…….sorry but you will never be able to take that away…any of you…and I really could careless what your last name is…….But I do want to stress again that Nikki was a beautiful young lady….she overcame a learning disabitlity, graduated high school went to college…..sacrificed her world to do the best she could to bring a baby into this world that no one wanted but her……to know her was to love her……..and let me say again IT TOOK NINE MONTHS FOR HER TO MEET THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE….NINE MONTHS FOR WHATEVER THEY DID TO TAKE OVER HER WORLD…..NINE MONTHS FOR HER TO GO FROM A NORMAL THRIVING YOUNG MOTHER……TO DEAD ….BURNED LIKE SHE WAS NOTHING>….when let me tell you all….Nikki Lugdon was a survivor….she was far from nothing…..and if you never got to see her smile….if feel sad for you…..because its a smile that is impossible to ever forget ….I love you nikki……..I miss you so much:(

    • Anonymous

      We are all sorry for your loss.  I have read all of these post, however, and no one has said anything bad about Nicolle.  Maybe you arn’t seening things for what they really are.   The concern on this forum is that there is a person or person’s that have murdered three people one of them you sister Nikki.  The only one to say Nikki was using some kind of drug was you!  We are not concerend with that!  We are concerned with catching the bad guys and keeping this from happening again….  We are also concerned that one of the people that Nicolle was with does have a record for sellin coke, “Dan Boarders”, we beleive that he might have been the target here in this murder and you sister was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.  We are sorry for this but this is not the place for you to come and try and figure out what happened to your sister, nor is it the place for other to try and make this a civil discussion about this crime…some people are concerned about the people that were murdered, some about the crime its self, some people are just here to upset everyone by saying things that arn’t true just to get a rise out of other’s.  You should be with family at this time celebrating Nicolle’s life and letting PD do their jobs….Stop worring about what other people maybe saying about any of these three people it the ones that know them and who they were that count… Please

      • Anonymous

        IF you can write what you would like I can do the same….please . ;) And I truley hope they are doing their jobs……and maybe you need to read a little further into some of the comments if you were confused as to what I was responding to….

    • Here’s a tip: If you want the BDN to have your number, call and speak with them directly. Don’t post it online for everyone to see. Its just a really, really bad idea. Just like coming here. You are more or less, looking for heartache. Clearly you have enough reasons to be upset, you don’t need more. Stay away from this dump, honestly. Far away. Its for your own good.

  • Anonymous

    And Tammy I agree…..but lets also note that my sister Nikki had a marijuana charge from….wait for it…2008 which would make her still very young at the time…and a driving thing….which just proves that my sister was never this person till nine months ago….because she escaped this type of life when we found her……..she wanted to be normal and thats what we gave her…..these people have no idea what they are even speaking of…….I dont know the other two in the car and to be honest  I have no desire to know them….all I care about is my sister…..and she wasn’t this person…not till nine months ago……..ITs not far……why don’t people realize that thats all it takes is a few months and look my mother is left without a daughter….myself my sister and my brother have lost our sister…..she was a wonderful person …….she has tears in the eyes of people all over the world because she was a wonderful person……the last nine months of her life do not shape who she was….Im sorry but they don’t!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Lets get off facebook bangor daily and do some real work shall we…..like I said my number is on here……Im ready when your ready;(

  • Anonymous

    If everyone believed in an eye for an eye…the whole world would be blind.  I for one believe that whom ever did this should sit in a cell 23 out of every 24 hours for the rest of his/her life and livc with for what they did….  what does killing them do but put them out of their misery. 

  • Anonymous

    Nikki was my sister……my mother was her forster mother for the past seven years….she graduated high school with us…went to college….I was the one with her for that surgery that put the plate in her arm that helped identify her…..I like to remember my sister not as the junkie you all so kindly lol describe which by the way let me thank you evil heartless people for posting your ignorant opinions during mine and my families time of pain….shame on you all…..Nikki some how ended up with bad people doing bad things……just the past nine months of her life….literally nine months of her life was all it took for her to meet these people …get involved her their drugs and end up dead….so what your saying is because someone convinced my sister to try something and she ended up knowing these people who obviously are not good….they burn people for god sakes……but because of nine months out of my beautiful sisters life …..that its her own fault…shame on her…bye bye….shame on you all and may god have mercy on all your souls…..for you are heartless……my number is 592 5709 if anyone from the BANGOR DAILY would like to contact me and know who my sister really was I would be more than happy to speak to her….we were her family…….sorry but you will never be able to take that away…any of you…and I really could careless what your last name is…….But I do want to stress again that Nikki was a beautiful young lady….she overcame a learning disabitlity, graduated high school went to college…..sacrificed her world to do the best she could to bring a baby into this world that no one wanted but her……to know her was to love her……..and let me say again IT TOOK NINE MONTHS FOR HER TO MEET THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE….NINE MONTHS FOR WHATEVER THEY DID TO TAKE OVER HER WORLD…..NINE MONTHS FOR HER TO GO FROM A NORMAL THRIVING YOUNG MOTHER……TO DEAD ….BURNED LIKE SHE WAS NOTHING>….when let me tell you all….Nikki Lugdon was a survivor….she was far from nothing…..and if you never got to see her smile….if feel sad for you…..because its a smile that is impossible to ever forget ….I love you nikki……..I miss you

    • Anonymous

      I’m glad you can see what type of people did this to her, it will protect you from being pulled in yourself. sad story God Bless you and your family

    • Anonymous

      I am sincerely sorry for your loss. I have refrained from offering opinions and personal speculation on this forum based on the very limited information released so far by authorities. Nicolle’s life was cut short way too early and she leaves behind a daughter that must now face a very tough road in life. I hope you – and all that loved her – can heal a little with each passing day as you remember the things that made her special and unique.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sorry about your sister.  You’ve made the point about drugs, bad friends, and bad consequences with a lot of force. 

    • Anonymous

      So sorry for your loss.  From everything I have read she was a wonderful person.  Is this the same Nichole from this article?  She overcame a lot of tragedy and I’m glad she found a a caring family like your’s to help her out.
      http://files.pittsburghlive.com/trib/pdf/vnd/vnd030904.pdf 

      • Anonymous

        First name spelled differently.

      • yes this is the same nicolle that u asked about in the article u posted!

        • Anonymous

          Thanks for clearing that up. Very tough life circumstances from an early age.

        • Anonymous

          Oh my God, this girl had such a hard life and she still smiled.  May she be at peace now.

    • Anonymous

      I am so sorry for your loss.  Don’t pay too much attention to the idiots on this site.  Some people have a froth-at-the-mouth illness here.  Keep the good memories of your sister close to your heart.  People will talk. 

  • Anonymous

    I was a punk once. I don’t drink or do drugs and am having a good day.

  • Anonymous

    There is also this article from BDN seven years ago saying he was indicted for a stabbing, can’t find the original article or any followup to determine what happened to the case

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-11790319.html

    It’s very likely that BPD knows this guy well, hope they find him soon
     

    • PaulNotBunyan

       The rest of the original article is just the other indictments returned from that grand jury session. So far, I can’t find anything else. It’s a Maine case so any time he did for it would be in Maine. There must be somebody here who remembers something about it.

  • Anonymous

    yeppers he stabbed Gary Enfinger near Leadbetter’s Mini Stop corner of Hammond and Ohio streets in Bangor way back in 2005.  sounds like the DA is just as guilty of murder as he might me.  I think he should have been in jail for this one and 3 people would still be alive today.  We have to do something about keeping dangerous people in jail for ever…they should never be let out…..

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