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  • Anonymous

    Why not use the bookstore at the University of Maine Orono as a supplier for Machias and Fort Kent? Students could “mail order” from Orono and all the profits could go to the University?

    • Anonymous

      Will never happen, they own several schools and they will not let there own schools do it

      • Anonymous

        Each school is a separate entity.  They are just part of the same system.  To my knowledge, they do not share profit from things like this, just like they don’t share course credits.  You must transfer credits from one UMS school to another, same as with any other school in the world.

        • Anonymous

          From what i have been told by University of Maine at Orono staff, that they share all profits.  But then of course, who knows i could be wrong

          • Anonymous

            I’m not sure either.  To me, it doesn’t make sense that they would share profit, but not course credits: Credits = Tuition = Profit.  But it is the University of Maine System, so you never really know with them.

    • Anonymous

      UMM already used UMO as a third party bookstore retailer. The problem was that UMO got all the profit, and UMM suffered.

      • Anonymous

         If there were ‘profits’, do you really think UM would have given up on the arrangement?

      • Anonymous

        UMO has not existed for nearly 20 years.  Please refer to the University of Maine as either UM or UMaine.

  • Anonymous

    The poll question should have the option of “other” because I buy most of mine at yard sales.

    • Anonymous

      I think the poll was mostly geared toward textbooks, which, unless the instructor is using a much older edition, cannot be purchased at yard sales.

      • Anonymous

        I just purchased a new textbook at a yard sale, $189.00 book, bought it for 25 cents.  I sold it back to a bookstore for 110.00.  Great profit on my end.

        • Anonymous

          haha.. lucky you!  No doubt a Chemistry or Biology book?

          • Anonymous

            How did you know that lol.  I went back to the yard sale and gave the girl 20 bucks, she was doing it for race for the cure i think, so i told her i felt bad.  She was happy.  I browse yard sales all the time and pick up textbooks and then try to sell them.

          • Anonymous

            Experience haha.. If it’s a Chemistry book, I bought it.  Had to.  And it was a brand new book, so they had NO used copies.  Never even opened the damn thing.  And I know that the Bio books are just as expensive, if not more so.

            That seems like a pretty easy way to make a few bucks!  I have some leftover that you could have, but I’ve tried selling them everywhere that buys books, but they won’t take them because they are “outdated” (2-3 years old)… Ridiculous

          • Rip off .

          • Anonymous

            Would love to have them, either way i have a college tthat takes them and they make a few bucks off them for student events

          • Anonymous

            Chemistry dropout?  Tsk, tsk.  Or did you continue somehow without opening the book?

          • Anonymous

            Nope. Got an A- … It was a pretty easy class.

  • Anonymous

    What about all the sweet “University of Maine at Machias” sweatshirts that are staple Christmas presents for Mom and Dad?

    • Anonymous

      I had the same question, but the article says the food service will stock souvenir and other non-book items.  At UMO, athletic clothing is also sold at Bear Necessities at Alfond arena as well as the bookstore.

      • Anonymous

        UMO has not existed for nearly 20 years.  Please refer to the University of Maine as either UM or UMaine.

    • Anonymous

      They will also be available online from the UMM website: http://www.umm.customfanshop.com/

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure that this cuttback is budget related but expect more reductions at these outlying university campuses and at the community colleges as Republicans in Augusta cut taxes and spending. Orono and USM still have bookstores, I believe.

    Kevin Raye didn’t go to the University of Maine at Machias. So, why should he care if that campus is shuttered.

    Arroostook and Washington Counties keep sending conservatives to Augusta while wealthier Cumberland, York and Kennebec send liberals. 

    If rural Maine counties don’t want downstate money to support their schools, so be it.  Keep electing Republicans who cut Portland’s taxes and Fort Kent’s, Presque Isle’s and Machias’ budgets.

    • Anonymous

      Bush’s fault. 

      • Anonymous

        lol

  • Anonymous

    Amazon.com – Sign up for Amazon Student.

    No need to go to a bookstore and pay 2x the price ever again.

    • Ben Hutchins

      As long as you’re OK with spam you can’t opt out of.

      • Anonymous

        That was not my experience with Amazon Student, at all..

        • Ben Hutchins

          You haven’t noticed those emails they send in the wee hours of the morning, trying to sell you used textbooks or music downloads or whatever they figure the kids are into these days?  “You received this message because you are a member of Amazon Student.  If you don’t want to receive them, you can cancel your membership.” Some op-out.

          •  If you find the ‘spam’ so burdensome, order them from the University of Maine.. they sell books online and ship them to you.  Frankly.. I’ll deal with the occasional spam and enjoy Amazon’s substantial discount prices.

          • Anonymous

             You’re a college student and you don’t know how to set a spam filter?  You might want to take a class…..

          • Ben Hutchins

            As usual, Bangorian, that’s not the point, and as usual, I’m pretty sure you knew that. :)

      • Anonymous

        you must be using internet explorer…

  • Anonymous

    as things go digital, people are going to stop buying books that they read once and throw on the shelf.

    and as far as textbooks, why buy a paper copy of a book that will be outdated and worthless next year when you could just get a digital copy for your tablet, along with any other books that you need on your 1 device.
    imagine just bringing your tablet to school instead of 20 lbs of books?

    And eventually, books will be a commodity that are only printed as a request or special edition.

    the time is coming.

    • Print is not going to die out anytime soon. To many people still enjoy the feel of a real book.

      • Anonymous

        hence the “commodity” aspect of my post.
        yes, people still love books, and will continue to do so. 
        but eventually, printed books will be more of a special order item.

        • Anonymous

          I have to say I agree with you. I’m 49 years old and we just moved house. I can’t tell you the number of college and high school textbooks that I put in boxes and they will probably stay there until I die. I would have gotten rid of them if we were paying for storage. I think these things have more meaning when you are younger and changing jobs or careers frequently and they can then come in handy, but I couldn’t bring myself to part with them.

      • I love the feel of paper and holding a book. Reading a digital copy is just NOT THE SAME!

        • Same here. I cannot bring myself to purchase an e-reader.

          • Anonymous

            I love my Kindle for fiction, etc.  It’s especially easy to read in bed; not stubborn spine to try and hold open with one hand.  Even though Kindle has the capabilities of highlighting, etc., when I read a non fiction book that I plan to study, I like a hard copy.

    • Anonymous

      I like Microsoft Reader on the wide screen.

    • Anonymous

      Last year I researched e-textbooks.  At UMO, they hadn’t caught on that much.  I talked to a few students about their preferences and only one said he liked them but only in math.  There are enough strings attached to make them not the perfect solution.

      College bookstores also stock more than just textbooks. A good share of my embryonic personal library began with college bookstore purchases when I was in college.

      Personally, I like books and have a lot of them. My wife now has a Nook but she reads (including borrowing) a lot of fiction.  My reading is more non-fiction and I haven’t gone over to the dark side yet.

      Re books printed on request, that happens a lot already. I recently purchased, online, a ten year old book from a commercial publisher. When it came, the illustrations that were included were in black and white, not the color I knew were in the original edition. icomplained to the publisher that there was no warning that this was a print on demand book (with inferior print quality) and asked for a price reduction. No dice.

      • Anonymous

        UMO has not existed for nearly 20 years.  Please refer to the University of Maine as either UM or UMaine.

        • Anonymous

          My bad, sorry.  I see others using it and I wanted to make sure I was talking about the Orono campus (what with all the other “flavors” around).

    • Anonymous

      Just read a couple of essays in the New York Times Book review section for 8/12/12, “Dead Again” and “It’s Alive”, pp. BR30 and BR31.  Both mimic Mark Twain about “rumors of my death” … .  The death of books has been predicted many times before and is not going to happen anytime soon.    Excellent essays on the current state of publication, hardcopy, electronic, etc.

  • Anonymous

    The world, the US, Colleges are going to change so fast we will not be able to fathom it. I am expecting that at most classes soon will be on-line in the home. Stay on Campus will be one week a month, anyway, a book store is as a soda fountain in the 50’s.

    • Anonymous

      on campus college life will never go away.
      too many kids want the college lifestyle and want to get away from home.

      • Anonymous

        It will be the economics, I agree with you, but it will be the cost.

    • Anonymous

      Three articles in today’s Chronicle of Higher Education discuss online vs. “live” classes.

  • Downeasta

    I am really surprised that colleges are not offering their education material in digital format.  Print is nice for libraries, yet soon that too will be in a museum.  

  • Tell me how they loose money? Those books are marked up triple the cost . Why not make college kids pull shifts for all the free aid they get?  

    • Old Bear

      When there mom and dad’s have plenty$$$  they are not going to be working in a bookstore.

      • Plenty of students get aid make them work for it.

        • Anonymous

          And many do.  I’ve seen lots of work/study students on the UMO campus.

          • Henderson bobby

            My whole point is they waste so much money on things that have little to do with education. Some of my college books cost almost $200 really a book cost $200 you can not tell me they are not making money on that.

          • Anonymous

            The publishers are.

          • I know some of my trade books can be had for about half what EMTC charges at local supply houses.  I think they need to shop for suppliers.  I know those places are not selling as a loss leader.

          • Anonymous

            UMO has not existed for nearly 20 years.  Please refer to the University of Maine as either UM or UMaine.

          • Anonymous

            Apologized elsewhere, no need to repeat.

          • Anonymous

            A pegasus does not exist. Please refer to yourself as a horse or a pony..

    • Anonymous

      As a UMM student, I have two jobs. My Mommy and Daddy were poor, and I still got shafted on aid. We are already milked for every cent we have. Don’t go making assumptions when you have no idea what you are talking about.

      • I totally agree college cost way to much they pay Jack Cosgrove $260k a year with benefits  Great money for a part time job. When the sports program cost $8 million more than it bring in. they waste so much money. If people really knew why it cost so much.

      • Anonymous

        how do you get shafted on aid?

    • Anonymous

      Huh?

    • Anonymous

      lose

  • As a UMM student, most of us won’t even use the online bookstore. We all pretty much rent books or use amazon. We just use the bookstore to see what we need for our classes.

  • Anonymous

    I think we should launch a probe to figure out why text books cost more per pound than gold.

  • Anonymous

    We just lost more jobs in the state, and a place for work-study, a way for students to get work experience and work off some of their financial aid.

    Is there enough time to ship the books for class? Maybe it will help some post office jobs?

    When I went to school, I recall there wasn’t much time between finding the book you needed and the first day of class. Especially winter session between semesters? But that was years ago…..

  • Anonymous

    Hey I know, let’s raise taxes on the wealthy.  Yeah, that’s the answer to EVERYTHING.

    • Anonymous

      lol, you got that right BB; it’ll solve this country’s problems.

  • Good; expand the UMM gym and stop the selling of over-priced books. Go Green and buy a used version. We don’t need the 8th edition of any publication.

  • Anonymous

    A university branch whose standards are so low it hires and gives tenure to an ideological mediocrity like Jonathan Reisman probably can’t be hurt too much more by ditching its bookstore. 

    If the campus’s associate professor of economics was ever to be believed there wouldn’t even be a UMM today. I well remember about 10 years ago how he leapt up howling on the anti-environmental bandwagon of the proto-Teapublicans to savage federal regulators for wanting to place restrictions on salmon pens being located within 12 miles of the openings along the coast of the state’s seven protected rivers — only he misrepresented the exclusion zone as a patent absurdity, as 12 miles “out to sea.” The professor’s brilliant conclusion as to the ramifications of this standard, which was, in fact, put in place, was that the resulting economic decline would force most of Washington County’s population to abandon the area. 

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s the times, and the internet is the new Main ST for most in rural areas.  Some states are even downsizing (or closing) libraries, as most information is now online.  Local communities are losing locally owned retail stores, as more and more shop online to save a few bucks.  These same people complain when local events start decreasing in size due to lack of funding from local businesses…  To many good stores have closed due to locals not supporting them.  Calais has lost several the last few years, and the local community wonders why Main ST has such a hard time getting new stores?!?  Because they are not supported by locals anymore, because it’s to easy to hit the “BUY” button at 10PM at night instead of supporting a local business.  I hear all the time “I wish we had more options here, I wish there were more stores, I miss businesses like My Favorite Things, Bernadini’s, St Croix Antiques, etc…  Well, keep purchasing online, and eventually our downtowns will be ghost-towns.  Online is great if a local store can’t provide the service, but always try and support a local merchant first.  Most will try and meet the online price.

  • Anonymous

    Allowing them to enroll in classes a week after they start is a recipe for disaster for most of students; now UMM is going to allow them to enroll a week late and then have to wait 10 days or more for their books to arrive?!  And we talk about revolving door education….

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