March 17, 2018
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  • Anonymous

    Despite the general tenor of my comments here, I’m not dead-set against government-provided universal health care. After all, fire departments were once private enterprise, too. But I think Dr.  Pease is a little too sanguine about the disinterestedness of her fellow physicians: universal health care turns every politician into Lady Bountiful and every medical association into a potential lobbying and fee-mining operation. It’s not hard at all to foresee costs running away – and benefiting the players, not the customers – just as they have in the government-subsidized academic world.

    So, propose away, but give us an idea of how the new system is going to keep those who profit from it honest. Depending on the kindness – or ethics – of strangers is not an option.

  • Anonymous

    Coverage does not equal access.

    Everyone who shows up at an ER or a free clinic is accepted; even criminals with gunshot and knife wounds and people with infectious diseases. 

    When will these ‘bleeding heart’ liberals learn to distinguish the two?

    When will they stop ‘bleeding’ the healthy and the wealthy to pay for their socialist agenda? 

    • Anonymous

      I read it: everyone has a right to come see me, and I have a right to get paid to see everyone.

    • AmbroseBear

      Then you do not oppose adjusting Medicare to include ALL citizens and not just those over 65? Great. It elimnates private insurers. Tax the rich to pay for it. Remember, they made their profit off publicly funded highway transportation, security and fire protection, first and they can now pay for everyone’s health care as the flip side of that public funding. A no brainer. That’s where our President is taking us. Glad you’re onboard. Pass the word. … quickly. See you at the polls.

      • Anonymous

        I wish everyone who asserts we must tax the rich more would 1) acknowledge that the top 10% pay 70% of all income taxes in the U.S.; 2) the bottom 45% pay zero, so could care less whether taxes go up; and 3) state exactly what rate they wish the rich to pay, when it should be obvious they pay far more than their “fair share” already.

        Donn’t pity the poor, and don’t envy the rich.

        •  People don’t envy the rich, well, I do come new car time- people are angry when they hear reports of massive lay-offs at companies, while the CEO’s get raises on top of the huge salaries and benefits they get.  People also get frustrated to hear how others got richer by helping to send jobs overseas, and got tax breaks for it.
          And the most frustrating part of it- you can work your tail off, still get laid off, and lose your hard-earned pension.
          Ask the mill workers in the Katahdin region.

          • AmbroseBear

            I totally agree with you, Gary. The rich simply treat employees like they’re disposable. They secretly strive to disregard the rights of everyone and anyone they have dealings with, especially employees and consumers, because they truely believe they’re smart enough to do it and / or dumb enough to think they can remain immune from the law. The trail of employee and consumer destruction they have caused eventually begins to criss-cross and their is their trap, there they find themselves in the crosshairs of their own making. You probably know, very well, what I am talking about from your own personal experience and observations. Be assured that, in the end, all truth is revealed in the light of day and justice is then harshly served to those who so desperately deserve it. CEO’s are being convicted more than ever. The pendulum has swung. Financial fraud, including double-billing for services, double-billing for wages, withholdings not remitted, insurance fraud, the innappropriate employment of felons, the conspiring to conceal felony, assaults, battery, illegal conversion of consumer property for personal profit, falsifying government submitted forms, documents and invoices, mail fraud, trafficking in presecription and controlled drugs and substances, inducing employees to commit financial fraud under threat of suspension or dismissal, failure to report abuses by employees or, most importantly, management and, most important, criminal negligence regarding consumers. You get my drift. This government is committed to prosecuting such corporate behavior with extreme prejudice and I, personnally, am going to simply sit back and enjoy the view.

      • Anonymous

        HUH?  massive illogic leaps there. President is def. taking us for a ride…to the cleaners!

        ‘they made their profit’…so you’re a commie, who is out to destroy capitalism by taking someone else’s wealth and using it to ‘fix’ your health problems….maybe you need a ticket to Cuba, instead?

        And that ‘profit’ is largely as a result of government requiring asset reserves to cover catastrophic losses….maybe you need to understand how insurance works in America? 

        • AmbroseBear

          Yes. The President IS going to take you for a ride to the cleaners IF you’re one of the one percenters who have had a free ride since Reagan’s giving you a pass (corporate welfare) on having to pay a fair (you relatively higher portion) share of society’s costs of living, including health care. Cuba? Been there … Guantanamo, even. Commie? Yeah. Sure. Destroying capitalism? Yeah. The capitalism part that thinks it can profit without a social conscience or less than fair social responsibility. Insurance is overpriced, above costs, and profit driven. This needs to end in favor of a national health insurance program OWNED by the public, and not for profit. No fault indemnification. You have costs? It pays. Period. Doctors and health care facilities operate at cost with a reasonable plus out of a sense of social obligation. … a sense of service, even. Just like our President is demonstrating, which is scaring the bejesus out of the insurance scammers, banksters and corporate hucksters. We are set for a revolution. Everyone knows it. Its happening right before our eyes. Our system of government encourages it, despite the attempts to distract the average voter by my fellow republicans (yes, I am a registered republican). We conduct our revolutions peacefully by voting. We vote because the only other way to make necessary change is with a violent revolution. We don’t need to get rid of false representatives violently when their conduct exposes the need to do so. Instead, we hire and fire them when we vote. The trend is clear. We are voting out the representatives in government who cater to and benefit from the profiteers who have fleeced the average voter of fair wages, adaquate healthcare, education, infrastructure and government oversight of out of control business cartels in the form of banksters, insurance scammers, an overpriced medical profession and unaccountable religous organizations. I am just sitting back and enjoying the ride. The view is fine from where I’m sitting. … and I ain’t going anywhere, because I like where our government, especially it’s President, is taking me.

  • Anonymous

    I have no idea how to find out but I would like to know what all the insurance policy holders pay to health insurers nationwide. Inclulding the big groups that are handing over huge amounts of money to these companies.

    I have a feeling that if all that money were added up it would be more than enough to cover every man woman and child in a single group policy and that that policy would be what is considered a Cadilac Plan.

    • Anonymous

      Relying on your feelings, not well-considered reason? No wonder you are a liberal.

      • Anonymous

        Relying on your contempt of your fellow citizens must be the reason you are a conservative.

        • Anonymous

          Actually, it is my respect for my fellow citizens that prompts my comments, including: respect for their property rights; respect for their freedom to make choices, for both good or ill; and above all, respect for life.

          It is my understanding of my fellow citizens that sets you and I apart. Your position is that because there is a perceived need, we are compelled to turn upside-down those with spare coins in their pockets so we can then scramble to collect and redistribute the netted coins until their is no longer any perceived need.

          The problem is: people don’t like to be turned upside-down. Nor do they like being demoned for their appropriate morals and legitimate accomplishments. That is why you are losing the argument, and despite all the help you receive from a complicit media, you really can’t make any progress, because you have built your house on a foundation of sand.

          The only positive I can see coming from the Obama Administration is that its whole-hearted heave to the left will ultimately reveal to most Americans that liberalism is an entirely failed philosophy. Conservatives like me have known this for years. We are just waiting, working, and praying for the rest of you to catch up.

          Time to turn your upside-down philosophy the Right way round, patom1.

          • Eh, no.
            You are correct that someone is being turned upside down and being emptied of their pockets.
            However, the pharmaceuticals, private insurers, and big oil are doing far more taking than the poor.
            Attacking the poor is not going to get us out of this mess.  They are just convenient targets.
            We are part of a community- we look out for each other.
            If you don’t want to contribute to society, then stop using the roads, bridges, postal service, and stop eating food inspected by the FDA.
            Many, many of us are frustrated- but are we going to turn our backs on the needy because some misuse it?  Are you willing for seniors and young children to have to choose between prescriptions, heat and food?
            I hope Americans are much better than that.
            And the name calling and arrogance isn’t going to help get people to your side.

    • Anonymous

      How many billions are siphoned off for fraudelent claims?  Betcha that could buy a lot as well.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, no sale. Such entitlements have given us poor outcomes and placed us in enormous debt. What is it about you liberals that you cannot or will not recognize the threat that a $15 trillion debt does to this country? You want universal health care, move to Europe. Maybe then you will finally see what such cradle-to-grave entitlements does to a once-thriving culture.

    Free market competiton, fewer regulations, and more common-sense preventative care is what is needed. The last thing we need is to place our healthcare into the hands of a bloated, corrupt, expensive government bureaucracy.

  • Anonymous

    Another opinion piece based on a utopian world view.

    Two of these physicians practice psychiatry.  I wonder how much either of them has to deal with Medicare, it’s low reimbursement rates,  rules, regulations, etc.  The third is retired and also doesn’t have to deal with the reality of Medicare today.

    Making Medicare universal will not guarantee equal access or even access at all.  Many doctors will not take Medicare patients.  In many cases Medicare actually pays less than the cost of services.  At present those costs are shifted to those not on Medicare.  If every one is on Medicare then doctors will have  a choice of going out of business or going private.

    Reducing fraud is a joke.  All evidence points to fraud being rampant in the Medicare system.  There are multiple reasons but one big one is the fact that too few resources are devoted to catching it.  No one in government really cares because it is a monopoly and no one has to worry about losing their job over it.  Not bothering to look for fraud does help keep those administration fees artificially low.

    And where do these people get the idea that Medicare provides care “with little or no patient cost-sharing”?  It shows how little they understand about the system that they do not understand that medicare leaves patients with a huge co-pay and that most people buy insurance to cover that cost.

    I could go on, but the inaccuracies and wishful thinking in this would take pages to comment on properly.  The only thing they got right was their criticism of the ACA. 

    • AmbroseBear

      Doctors WILL take less pay, because they’ll have no choice. Fraud will be addressed with INCREASED enforcement capacity. Restitution orders with have fraudster DOCTORS doing free community service hours providing health care to the needy. HOSPITALS the same. This, alone,  will provide nearly a generation of free healthcare and result in increased public funding of social security, education and infrastructures and the local, state and federal levels. That’s not utopian, in my view, it’s most realistic.

      • Anonymous

         You are proposing to make doctors virtually slaves.  Indentured servitude is not legal in this country.   

        You are the quintessential progressive who will make the world better by imposing your idea of right and wrong on anyone who doesn’t agree with you.  Typical jack booted thug.

        There were others who think like you.  Lenin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot.

        • AmbroseBear

          I am merely embellishing the obvious that doctors and our present healthcare system are overpriced as my way of agreeing with the writer’s call to expand medicare to all age groups, once and for all, which is what Romney approved of in his recent to Isreal. On the suggestion that combating fraud was a joke, but admits more enforcement IS needed, I responded that, yes, add more enforcers and the consequence would be a recoupment, by say of court ordered restitution, of years of overbilling by, especially, doctors and hospitals … a weekend emergency room visit to get a prescription for an antibiotic should not cost an American $2,000 by any measure, but this routinely happens under the present doctor / hospital billing scheme. Its nice to see walk-in clinics springing up everywhere to capture the market of disgusted Americans needing such services, but at more realistic costs. I am certainly not, however, a progressive by advocating for a reasonably accessable and affordable healthcare system for every American, as the writer here is doing. Nor am I a “jack booting thug” for advocating effective fraud enforcement where such enforcement costs are justified by probable success in recovering ill gotten booty from the major fraudsters (i.e. doctors and health care facilities), I am simply pointing out that the law be enforced and, if the facts support convictions, that courts order restitution, and these sums would be huge, especially if one recovers 25 years of deregulated skimming. Finally, as a veteran who served during the Vietnam conflict and as a registered republican, I wished you had compared me with Chairman Ho Chi Minh as well, the man who, in pajamas, sandals and a bowl of rice, gave us a much needed kick in the pants and taught us a very important lesson in humility, a lesson obviously lost on our Nation’s republican politicians and the medical profession, generally speaking. And, I would hold your voice down about criticizing the Chinese. They represent the fastest growing economy, army and navy on the planet right now. They’re going to be the next nation to put a person on the moon, and they’re currently outperforming us on the world stage at the Olympics. Also, remember their loans to the Bush administration during that 8 year period,  which funded Bush’s tax cuts to the top one percenters, and we don’t want them to call us on that loan just yet, do we? Especially since we’re likely about to ask for an extension of time to repay.  Yes, I’d show a little more respect if I were you. Our usual argument that we have a better human rights record doesn’t hold water anymore, especially when we are found holding the water, in the recent past, it was just before a Cheney ordered, waterboarding, torture session. … the very definition of a jack boot thug.  You want to line up with his gang and their philosophy? Be my guest. But, for me and mine, I choose facing reality, accepting it and advocating for additional, much needed change. That is why, as a republican, I’m voting for President Obama and most of his supporters and policies … again. I urge ou to do the same. See you at the polls.

          • Anonymous

            Anyone stupid enough to go to the emergency room for an antibiotic on the weekend deserves to get a $2000 bill. Based on what it costs to staff and outfit that emergency room the cost is justified. And I use the word “stupid” on purpose because such behavior goes beyond ignorant. Think of the $2000 bill as a much needed education for such people.

            Your rant about China is mostly true. They will be the next major superpower and will bury the US. And they will do so precisely because of the short sighted policies and ideology of people like Obama. Since you agree with his policies you are part of the problem. That doesn’t change the fact that Mao was a monster. A monster that you appear to agree with.

            We have had our own monsters as leaders as well. Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Johnson, and now Obama. Carter was just a fool, bad president but not a megalomaniac.

            You may be a republican but you are as progressive as they come. No use wasting my time any more.

          • AmbroseBear

            I respect your opinion. Isn’t it great to be an American? See you at the polls.

  • The ACA is not perfect, but it is a step in the right direction.

  • Anonymous

    These doctors feel they are indeed doing good. 40,000 people a year die because they don’t have health insurance. BUT, 100,00 a year die from hospital mistakes; 200,000 die from blood clots from operations and illness; and more adding up to the 3rd leading cause of death. CURE THYSELF FIRST DOCTOR.

    Most health care is discretionary – demand driving by doctors. Why should you or I pay for someone elses discretionary care. The simple explanationing of needed care is a broken hip; discretionary is an operation for back pain which most often doesn’t cure anything.

    How did Medicare and Medicaid get paid for? 1965 was also the year LBJ started putting OUR Social Sercurity money in the general fund. Now it is broke – thanks LBJ. Thats how he financed the Great Society.

    We keep sending well off politians to Washington when we should be sending honest people.

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