Comments for: Maine’s massive Internet project crucial to job creation CONTRIBUTORS Maine’s massive Internet project crucial to job creation The Three Ring Binder project marks the beginning of a high-tech success story for Maine. Read More Maine’s massive Internet project crucial to job creation Back to story → Guidelines for posting on bangordailynews.com The Bangor Daily News and the Bangor Publishing Co. encourage comments about stories, but you must follow our terms of service. Keep it civil and stay on topic No vulgarity, racial slurs, name-calling or personal attacks. People who harass others or joke about tragedies will be blocked. The primary rule here is pretty simple: Treat others with the same respect you'd want for yourself. Here are some guidelines (see more): It should be noted this is not a comprehensive list. Don't insult one another or the subjects of BDN stories. 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But call Fairpoint, who’s the ISP Provider in the area, and all you get is an Olympic distance run around about DSL, not Fiber-Optic, service not being available in the area because it’s not profitable. Folk’s, profit’s what you make when you manage the System. Profit is not, and was not, a part of the Dept of Commerce $3 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT that was suppossed to build this. Houlton’s Library has been served with a T-1 Line for several year’s so the Project is essentially meaningless there. Ms Dill is, essentially, taking credit for something that’s not based in fact. When, and to this point I don’t see it coming anytime before Christ’s return, and if this suppossed Service ever shows up I will be glad to publicly apologize. But as the man from Missouri say’s, ‘Show me’. So far all I’m seeing is a PR campaign and bupkus in the hand. Anonymous The self-congratulation does seem a little premature, doesn’t it? My guess is that the cabling is in place and the ISPs are waiting for government to finance hooking up their customers. Such are the benefits of capitolism. kennyh If you are a business in Aroostook County, call your chamber of commerce.. they will tell you where to call to get Fairpoint’s fiber. It runs through out on the major routes. This 3 ring deal runs right next to much of FairPoints fiber.. in most cases.. a complete waste of $. Anonymous That’s the problem with anything in rural Maine. Companies do not want to service rural areas because it’s not profitable. You said Fairpoint “runs through out on the major routes;” and therein lies the problem. The 3-ring binder project will provide the lines and it’s up to the companies to come in and actually hook people up…don’t hold your breath. Put it this way, it takes federal legislation to make sure we still have air service in Presque Isle. If it weren’t for that legislation, that airport would have closed a long time ago. kennyh FairPoint has fiber running all thru Presque Isle, up from Houlton, over to Caribou, Farmington, Rangley and soon West to NH. Again, if you are a business and you are interested in high speed broadband fiber thru FairPoint check with your chamber, they will direct you where to call to see if you are in an area with Fairpoint fiber. NOBODY has more fiber throughout rural Maine like FairPoint currently does. Anonymous Nobody? Anonymous But some of us are still waiting since Fairpoint came to the state for voice mail! All kinds of free services and features that aren’t available in Aroostook county but we are paying the same rates as those who do get all those services Anonymous The purpose of the 3-ring binder project was to install fiber optic cable from one end of the state to the other, in such a way that no business would be very far away from it. It is *not* meant to be a “last mile” network, and by that I mean that it’s not meant to connect to your house to get you on the Internet. There are several ways that a business can use it though. If a business, such as Jackson Labs, needs a super high-speed connection to the Internet, which they previously did not have access to before, they can now subscribe to 3-ring binder to get it. However, they have to build a fiber link from their campus to the nearest 3-ring binder access point. That fiber may be 10 miles long or more, but certainly shorter and less expensive than running fiber all the way to Boston. Additionally, they need to negotiate a deal with a high-capacity Internet provider in Boston to “plug into” the other end of their fiber. That’s it. For this capability, the customer will pay $11 per fiber mile per month to use the fiber, plus whatever their upstream Internet service provider charges them. Another scenario would be a business that has multiple locations in the state. They would use 3-ring binder fiber to connect all their businesses together, not necessarily for Internet access. So, how does this affect the home user? It doesn’t, unless you happen to have a small local ISP in your area that is planning on using 3-ring binder fiber to get Internet bandwidth. Then they will use a technology like DSL or fixed wireless to deliver that bandwidth over the “last mile” to your house. Some ISP’s may be able to run fiber to your house, but only if they are a CLEC, which is a very expensive thing to do. The only one I know of doing it is Pioneer Broadband in Aroostook County. Anonymous So basically no one is watching these 2 hours movies that take a minute to download because it takes me over 24 hours to download a 2 hour movie and I have wireless not dial up. Anonymous Mike, Why do you post the same incorrect info on the 3RB? It was a $25 million grant, not $3. FairPoint had nothing to do with it, actually fighting against it. It is a middle-mile, wholesale, backhaul project that will provide tremendous capacity to providers at a low rate. And check with the Houlton Library about their current connection. It might be a bit better than a T-1. For more accurate info on the 3RB, see http://www.mainefiberco.com/, and the piece on MPBN last Friday. Rob Nils Werner Wait. a 2 and a half hour movie in half a second? They have better download speed up north than in portland!? Anonymous The author’s comment “… fast enough to download a two-hour movie in half a second” is a poor example to describe the deliverables or outcome of this project. Lindsay Newland Bowker Refreshing to see at least one of the three senatorial candidates actually taking concretely about a a strategy that does matter to all Mainers and is critically important for rural Maine..Thank you too Congressman Michaud for keeping an eye on and purusing wjat matters for rebuilding Maine economically. I am curious is this mentioned as a major thrust in King’s campaign literature? What has he been doing to promote universal access to hi speed internet throughout Maine? Anonymous Yeah she is such a great candidate that all of the bills that she passed in Augusta that creates all of these jobs she talks about . Well according to the article here on the BDN the other day it said they only created 4 total jobs and the rest were very short temporary jobs. They said she is a liar. She is such a job creator that good old Cynthia. She is nothing more than a big tax and spend Liberal who is now bought and paid for by one of the most hated folks in Maine Roxanne Quimby. Just because she is a pretty face being a pretty face doesn’t make you a good politician. That is why the National and State Democrat Parties want nothing to do with her. Because she is nothing more than hot air. Once folks see an ad with her jumping on the Veteran’s Memorial Site and Memorial monument/headstones in the Vet’s Park in her State Senate District. Cynthia’s campaign is toast. She was stupid to make a video of her doing it and having it posted on her website and to the local tv newscasts in the Portland area. With her gloating how she is good for Veteran’s in Maine that she supports their causes LOL. She isn’t for Mainers, She isn’t for Vets. She is like all liberals looking out for her and her special interest buddies. A wealthy Rhode Island trial lawyer transplanted here to Maine. Well she has done nothing but mess up the lives and the economic futures of Maine People while serving in Augusta. Anonymous Cynthia knows there’s a rural Maine? Seriously? Native of one of Rhode island’s wealthiest communities, now living in CE. Get real. Also here’s Maine Center for Public Interest report: http://pinetreewatchdog.org/2012/07/25/record-shows-little-support-for-dills-claim-to-be-job-creator/ Anonymous She does! She got lost in Standish once. Once. Anonymous They’ve been talking about this project for what, about 10 years now…time is of the essence. There was a time when I waited for this project to bring me Internet access, but thank God, cable was finally installed on my road, or I’d still be waiting. Anonymous So, basically, we’ve built an Interstate without interchanges? Anonymous Washington county doesnt even have 3G for wireless broadband… 2G and 1X….Hillarious.. Mike Kiernan And those of us in Southern Aroostook County are right in there with you. That’s why I find Fairpoint’s constant public statement that they are just stringing line, and a final ISP is needed to connect the Fiber-Optic’s to the business’s and residential customer’s, barely short of a sick joke since Fairpoint is touting itself as THE Provider, and has the nerve to advertise a ‘3 Package’ of phone, cable/FIBER and TV at a competitive rate. Now I may have fallen off the ‘tater truck at some point but someone please tell me how they are going to offer, and charge a fee for, a ‘3 Package’ that they can’t deliver on with out commiting fraud ? And Fairpoint wonders why all of these satellite ISP dish’s are popping up and taking their market share ? Gee, I wonder why, or did I fall off the truck this morning ? Anonymous Mike, I believe the 3 fer deal is phone, DSL & Direct TV satalite. At least that is what they offered us when we were able to get DSL last year. Mike Kiernan If your doing Direct thru Fairpoint then you had better look at the ‘back end’ of that deal and see just what you’re getting when the ‘Intro’ period wears off. Fine print is for lawyer’s and sucker’s that believe in the tooth fairy. Read and heed before you get bent and spent ! Anonymous Where I live, I really have a choice of dial up at 26.4 kbps, satelite at a tad over 100kbps, or DSL at the speed of light in comparison. I and my neighbors can only use a cell phone if we stand on one leg, hold our nose with our left hand or was that the other way around? Anyhow if we want phone service, Fairpoint is it. I can understand your anger at being stuck with Fairpoint but like my grandaughter says, ‘We may not like certain things but that’s just the way it is.’ Anonymous We all pay a price of some sort for where we live. You must live in a wonderful place to pay such a high price. Anonymous LOL, We live In a very very nice house With 3 kids raised and gone and ducks out on the lawn…… Anonymous We must be neighbors! Can’t even get the free features Fairpoint offers its customers up here – but we pay the same. We have to drive to town to use cell phones unless we text! We will never have cable, DSL or any of the high speed options here – too rural. Anonymous I use a wireless broadband when Im up, I try not to use it too much, horid. Slow compared to my 4G that I have now…. Anonymous Don’t bring the U.S. Chamber of Commerce into this. It represents the biggest corporations whose goal is the economic and political supremacy of the 1% and the destruction of democracy in the U.S.. Its only interest in the middle and lowest classes is to take their last dollar, tax free. Joe Couple of happy looking drama, “Queens”. Anonymous Go Cynthia Dill, I hope you get 30%!!!! Anonymous Hopefully Angus and her can battle it out amongst the Libs so we can elect a real candidate who will go there to do the job . Not being a rubberstamp for the Obama administration and the Pelosi-Reid cartel. Anonymous We can only hope. Kind of makes you want to send her some money. Anonymous So you are all for Grover Norquist? Anonymous You know that doesn’t make a lot of sense right? Anonymous Sure it does. A vote for Charlie Summers is a rubber stamp for Grover Norquist. He is the one who has all but a handful of Republicans in Congress and the Senate signed sealed and delivered. That to me is a very sad statement on the Republican Party in general. Charlie Summers said on TV that he has signed Grover Norquists pledge, twice. Although I didn’t know that Republicans had to renew their pledge like a drivers license;) Anonymous A vote for Charlie Summers is a rubber stamp for Grover Norquist. He is the one who has all but a handful of Republicans in Congress and the Senate signed sealed and delivered. Steady, man! You’re not seriously suggesting that Republican congresscritters won’t rat instantly it becomes opportune to do so, are you? They’re politicians! Anonymous I miss dial up it was free. Anonymous Seeing a picture of Mike Michaud with the anti Maine Cynthia Dill has just cost Mike my vote ! I’m thinking it will also cost Mike many votes in the Millinocket region which he so lovingly calls home. Voting for these two now seems like a vote for Quimby’s national park ! Anonymous Unfortunately, I have to agree. Unless Mike Michaud makes a public statement promising to fight a national park here, many of us will not vote for him-even though we have done so for many, many years. What he has told some in private about not supporting the park means nothing to me if he won’t say it publicly. I am feeling like he has lost touch with those of us in his hometown area when we need his support. I will not support anyone who will not support the majority of their voters. Anonymous Ironically, she posted this herself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWYgHc7s9w http://www.mainecampaignfinance.com/netCrystalReports/PACCombinedReport.aspx?EntityType=PAC&Params=95915%3BQuarterly+-+January%3BNNNNNNNYNNN%3Bpublic Check out the Dill Leadership PACs latest financial statement. Yes, she paid herself $1000 to write her own blog. http://www.asmainegoes.com/content/clean-election-tax-dollars-60-discount-macbook-pro LD826: Sponsored by Senator Dill. This bill would have allowed our towns and cities in Maine to institute a local sales tax with 25% of the collected money going to the State of Maine and ONLY 50% remaining in the municipality to offset property tax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mroWAzqiIq0 Roxanne Quimby is one of her best as far as donations go… Harry Just how much did this “free” stuff cost the taxpayers? Does it compete with private companies trying to do the same thing and make a profit? I’ll bet it cost us all a lot of money we didn’t have and that it does compete unfairly with for profit business.