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  • Anonymous

    Just what Stillwater Avenue needs. Ugh!!!

  • Anonymous

    Was it a good thing when the Malls arrived and brought downtown Main St to it’s knees? A once thriving downtown with such a variety of stores was a sad sight to see after they all closed.

    • Anyone tell you you couldn’t shop downtown?

      • Anonymous

        I’m speaking of : Freeses, The Star Store, Burdells, Rines, Sleepers, The Standard Shoe Store, Cortell Segals, Lyford Woodards, and many many others, plus the Pine Tree restaurant, Sweets drug store, the 5&10 cent store, Newberrys, WTGrant, Sears, flower shops, jewelry stores and more. Downtown was the place to be on Friday nights. Christmas time was something else downtown. This could all be before your time.

        • Joseph Willingham

          Yes, that’s all gone now.  But there’s still a lot happening in downtown Bangor.  A lot has changed even in these past 5 years.

          • Mike Lange

            It sure has. That’s why I avoid Pickering Square and park in the Columbia Street lot. But never leave anything of value in your vehicle that can be seen through the window.

        • Anonymous

          Ahh, the memories.  Friday evening was the only night the stores were open!  I remember going shopping…my Dad and I would go to the candy section in the basement of Freeses while Mom shopped.  Think of how times have changed…grocery stores closed around 6 p.m. because they assumed that women would do the shopping during the day.  My parents belonged to the PVCC and women weren’t allowed to play golf on Saturday mornings because the men “worked” and the women could go during the week.  Things have sure changed…some for the better some for the worse!

        • Anonymous

           Stories like that are what I’d LOVE to see in the BDN.Real stories from real people.Maybe they could replace that Reilly crap from a century ago.YAWN.

      • Anonymous

        Too many drunks and panhandlers on the streets these days. I miss the old downtown. And I miss the fountain already too.

        • Joseph Willingham

          Maybe, but downtown Bangor is pretty happening, with the festivals, the Friday night movies, the pubs and restaurants, the art walks.  Lots to do.

  • Anonymous

    Do we really need another strip mall in this town?  The one by the Christmas Tree shop is half full.  The one near wal-mart is about the same.   Circuit City is empty. Home Depot part I is empty…..

    • Anonymous

      It’s sprawl, and it’s so ugly.

    • I sort of wondered that as well – why build a new one when things are vacant elsewhere?  Could it be that the way those strip malls and or stand-alone buildings are not “set-up” the way newer businesses would like?  Or maybe they are to the point where a renovation/remodel would be needed to make them truly feasible?  I don’t know the answers to these – just throwing out some thoughts…. Also, the businesses that are going to occupy this new strip mall may not be looking for a large store, even though by the sounds of it, some may. 

  • PabMainer

    Will be interesting to see if the I-95 exit for Stillwater Ave. will be changed to allow for left turns after this place is built…..

    • Anonymous

      Long overdue! So many people now pull u-turns in the LL Bean/Kohls parking lot to get into town – not very safe. C’mon, Bangor Public Works! Time to drop the “no left turn” signs.

      • Anonymous

        That sign was put in as a deal worked out between the original manager of Bangor Mall and King Eddy of Barrett. It was meant to make all of the traffic go by the mall. Now that they are both gone, it’s time to make it right. Plus, maybe now Bangor actually has someone who can actually “engineer” such a feat.

        • No, it’s time to make it left. :-)

          • Anonymous

            With all the rezoning going on to move retail stores everywhere except downtown over the last few decades why dont they rezone Capehart into a strip mall. Or better yet the downtown area between Cedar and Buck.

          • Anonymous

            Every city is legally obligated to have a certain number of subsidized housing units.  Most of Bangor’s are in Capehart.  Where would you suggest moving them to?

            Have you also noticed how low crime Capehart is compared to Third Street?  You can lose your subsidized housing for committing crimes or allowing drug use in your apartment.  I think Capehart is just fine where it is and as it is, all things considered.

          • Anonymous

            The reason the crime rate in Capehart appears so low is because Bangor PD is spread so thin they cant spend the amount of time out there they should be spending

          • Superuser23

            Couldn’t agree with you more. There is enough crime in Capehart still

          • Anonymous

            They have two full time officers that patrol Capehart and neighbors are nosy – that is what keeps that crime down. I have a relative that lives there and she feels more safe there than when she lived on Second St – or at the house I rented on Walter St. It really is not what it used to be.

            But hey, maybe they will rezone Capehart and those people living in the 400 apartments out there can come live next door to you all? Because they have to move SOMEWHERE.

          • Superuser23

            I no longer reside in Capehart area thanks to the two full time officers who at said mentioned time was probably too busy with looking for a sick cat or whatever other lame call that would come in for them.
            The good news, I got plenty of land, bad news, I aint zoning it out to these folks, they couldn’t afford my rate.
            Hope you got land, after all if they rezone or demolish capehart they do need some place to live and it sounds like you will welcome them with open arms.

          • Anonymous

            Funny how you say you lived there once but refer to it being bad that someone would welcome people “with open arms” now.  Now you are highfalutin and no longer drink Allen’s. It’s Kahlua for you now! 

          • Superuser23

            It is funny how I said the area, not “I lived in capehart” big difference.

          •  You are incorrect.  There is no obligation to create low income housing, or subsidized living facilities UNLESS the city accepts funding from Federal of State coffers for such facilities.
            Corvallis (Ore)
            Saddle Brook (N.J.)
            Scarsdale, (N.Y.)
            Greenwich (Conn.)
            Deerfield (Mass)
            Littleton (N.H.)

            …are several cities which took no funds for low income housing, and provided no low income housing during the 1990’s. 
             
            “Gifted money” from the Feds and State always have strings. 

          • I I and a lot of other taxpayers live between Cedar and Buck Street. I have lived all over Bangor and my neighborhood is one of the better ones. I saw more crime on the east side. Sounds like someone is a bit elitist. What amazing wonderful neighborhood do you live in?

          • Anonymous

            I choose not to live in Bangor any longer because of everthing that comes with it, my opinion is based on what I see going through these areas and where most of the crime that is reported seems to show up in the news. I feel bad for the good honest people that live in these neighborhoods that have had to live through the change in that area. I am far from an elitist, just observant of where the problems are reported.

        • Anonymous

          No, it was put in because Stillwater Avenue residents didn’t want increased traffic through the residential section of the street.

          • Joseph Willingham

            Why would there be increased traffic from the left turn lane?  People wanting to make a left would probably be wanting to actually go into that part of town.  As it is, many people make u-turns in the shopping center, which causes more traffic.  I would think that the increase in shopping centers AND the widening of Stillwater (finally!) would increase northbound traffic on Stillwater through the residential neighborhoods, regardless of a left turn lane that takes people away from the shopping.

      • Superuser23

        If I am not mistaken the State had some say in this too. I don’t think it is all Bangor

        • I believe that the State wanted it to be a left turn, it was the city’s doing.

  • Gosh I’m sure I glad I no longer live in Bangor.  Trying to get to American Concrete  from my apartment on Essex Street was bad enough in the early 2000’s.  In the summer Stillwater Avenue smelled like diesel and burning rubber back then… it must be much worse today. 

    The city planners ought to be ashamed. The Circuit City building stands empty, and they will allow another area of green (which developers call “the weed-choked and overgrown Stillwater Avenue site”) to become sprawl.

    Is there to be no more vegetation on this side of town.

    • Anonymous

      Have you seen the area they are talking about?  It is not a “green” area.

      •  It was a green area when I lived in Bangor (1998 2003) AND the story said it was “weed-choked and overgrown” which translates to green for me. 

        • Anonymous

          It’s now a half baked parking lot with grass growing up in all the nooks and crannies. It’s currently an eyesore as it is. Good spot for a Cracker Barrel restaurant. Yummy. 

          • Anonymous

             I think the skateboard park should go here.

          • Anonymous

            The skateboarders don’t have enough money to buy the land.

          • Anonymous

             I think you missed my point.

          •  Something for teenagers that doesn’t make some developer a squadrillion dollars?  You’re dreaming.

          • Anonymous

             Houlton built a skateboard park(maybe the Elks or some group like that built it-not sure?)
            in around 2005.Park is empty and kids still skateboard where it isn’t permitted.

          • Sounds like you need to do some time in East St. Louis, Karney, or Bakersfield.  Lots of Cracker Barrels, no green. 

            Bangor used to have Millers.  I’d personally trade 1,000 Cracker Barrels for one really good restaurant..  Bangor currently has none (IMHO)

    • Ummm it’s “weed choked” up through the concrete… it’s not like they are tearing up a city park. This will create jobs. But, as usual in Maine, everytime someone wants to create jobs, it’s never good enough. Oh. the traffic. Oh. it’s minimum wage. oh. there is a lot of green going to be gone. Why anyone would want to invest in Bangor is beyond me. So unappreciative it’s unbelievable.

      • Mike Lange

        Anyone a developer says they’ll create “x” number of jobs, cut it in half – and you’ll be closer.

      • Joseph Willingham

        I think the point being made is that there are already empty buildings, like Circuit City and the old Home Depot, that could be utilized. Jobs would still be created, but it’s a good question to ask why they are building more stores while there are still empty ones in that shopping districe.

        • Anonymous

          Reusing a building isn’t always practical. Sometimes it costs more to revamp a building than it does to do green field construction.

          • sassyfrazz

            Then the corporations who are responsible for building them ought to be forced to factor in the costs to dismantle them when they ‘discover’ their ill-conceived ventures are exactly that – ill conceived before they are allowed to proceed with bankruptcy protection.

            Ditto for if they want to go build a bigger building.

          • Anonymous

            More often than not a company  will come into the  area and have a second company build to suit and lease the property from that company.

            The name on the door rarely owns the building itself. Suppose the initial company goes under that leaves the original owner with a building designed for a limited clientele.

            Another thing to consider during construction is the tax code. The tax codes encourages building with a lifetime of 32.5 years and the construction designs are built to that longevity as well. So if someone had a location for 15 years then left for whatever reason its difficult to find a customer that would only commit to 17.5 years. Its all in the tax code and the math.

          • sassyfrazz

            Agreed and one should consider the fact that these 2nd companies are encouraged to build by using tax breaks that others (mainly middle class) end up paying for. 

            But it still boils down to carefully planning a business and the possibility of loss IMHO.  Shaws is a good example of that.  They had planned out the new store to the point where they prepped for construction and then realized that it was a losing proposition.  I don’t believe that they considered the possibility that Wal-Mart would corkscrew their profit margin into the ground (even though IMHO anyone with 2 cents worth of common sense could see it coming a mile away).  Still, in all fairness, I suppose it could be argued that those who were working on it up here were left in the darkness by the corporate HQ as to how far into the hole they were falling.  That wouldn’t surprise me either.

            The tax code (and associated tax breaks which usually come with it) should be considered before people stand up and clap their hands at the latest attempt to throw “but a job is a job!” statement. ;)

            Sometimes, in the long run, that lousy job costs us a whole lot more.

          • Anonymous

              Funny how contracts work. For instance, it is my understanding that the parking lot contract was signed before Shaw’s pulled out and the contractor built the parking lot anyway in order to complete the contract. Then it was left to grow weeds in.

          • sassyfrazz

            Yep.

      • Anonymous

        Yup, you are right. We should just accept the bread crumbs that are strewn our way while our state budget for public assistance is bloated, something the gov talks about repeatedly.  But you never hear him asking businesses to pay their employees a living wage so they can be taken off the public assistance rolls.

      • Anonymous

        Not liking the idea of a big-box low-budget fast-food joint that will likely be built with contracts from out of state and staffed ever after by depressed minimum-wage employees is not “unappreciative,” nor is it the answer.

  • Anonymous

    Just what Bangor needs more minimum wage jobs or just over …when will real jobs start coming to Bangor?

    And just what Stillwater Ave needs more crazy shoppers, heck when you get off I-95 from the South you still can’t turn left – maybe this will change that…. I doubt it!

    Come Black Friday they should just run a shuttle bus service and close Stillwater Ave.  They can shuttle bus people to the empty areas like the old Home Depot.

    • You sound tense.  Maybe it’s best for you to stay clear of that area.  Shop downtown, where the businesses all pay their help 50k ++  [rolls eyes]

      • Anonymous

         Not tense, I just don’t think Bangor really needs another strip mall when there are other malls right in the general area empty.  But hey great thing about America everyone has their own opinion.

    • Joseph Willingham

      Yeah, I hate that you can’t turn left-that we’re being led like cattle into that shopping center.  

      I hope they design the center well and not just a bunch of plain cubes….

    • Why does it matter if the jobs are minimum wage or not?  There are many people without jobs right now and any wage should be enough until they can get a better job.  Having a minimum wage job is better than having no job.

      • Anonymous

        This attitude makes me  ill.  WHY should we have to scrounge and subsist here in Maine? We had everything we needed until we let other people come in here and tell us what they thought was good for us. It wasn’t!  Hunting, fishing, farming, etc brought abundant food. Lumbering and wood harvesting brought warm homes. Textile and shoe factories brought clothing. Hydro dams brought electricity. Wake up and look around you.

        • Anonymous

          I’m with you.

        • Anonymous

          That’s a very romanticized view of Maine’s past.  If you want to make a living hunting, fishing, farming, etc., it is certainly still possible.  It’s not an easy life and hunting, fishing, and farming are all subject to the whims of Mother Nature. 

          As to scrounging and subsisting, farm hands are not and never have been paid substantial wages; neither were the workers in the shoe and textile factories for that matter.  Maine’s economy has always had a rather large segment that has made a subsistence living. 

          In large part, the “other people” who tell us what is good for us are the federal government.  The manufacturing jobs left in part because of free trade agreements.  They also left because corporations could make a larger profit by utilizing cheaper labor and less stringent environmental laws.  And before you blame the corporations, keep in mind that the only reason corporations exist is to make money.

          • sassyfrazz

            I know several former shoe shop workers during the 1970s and early 80s.  I understand what you’re saying; however, many of them worked piece work and were very good at it.  They also didn’t have a riduculous amount of college loans to pay back either.  

            A LOT of them lived in rural areas and did their work at home (shipping them back boxed via USPS) so they didn’t have the added expense of commuting.  Further, since they were so good at it, they made a lot of money which they then turned around and spent in the local economy.

            Where I am employed, I work with several older former shoe shop workers – most of which are just now (after state-paid retraining) making nearly as much per hour as they did making shoes (and one who made shirts at Hathaway in Waterville).  

            We tend to forget that small detail the further away from the history of Maine manufacturing we get.  I agree about the free trade agreements though.  They were bound to screw us from the start.

            One of the reasons that Toyota started manufacturing cars in the US was because of import quotas – not because they were trying to “help” the good ole US.   “Corporations” are only as good as the people who run them.

          • Anonymous

            Piece work was profitable if you were good at it; if not, well, you were making somewhere around or less than the equivalent of today’s minimum wage.  I don’t think many of the factories provided benefits either which is similar to the employers in Maine today.  Things aren’t that much different; it’s just the rose-colored glasses.

            College loans are a completely different topic.  Taking out loans, whether they be for education, housing, or other, needs to be weighed against the benefit of said burden.  If you enter a degree program for a career with a historically low entry-level salary and limited room for upward growth, you should perhaps reconsider either the loan or the career path.  You don’t have to take on loans to go to college.  There are grants and scholarships; you can work part or full-time; you can have a savings account.

        • Obviously I would prefer people get well paying jobs with benefits.  However, I feel that it is better to have a job than no job.  It is better to have 200 low paying jobs than no jobs that make no money.  People complain that there are no jobs, but there are jobs.  The jobs may not be the best paying jobs, but they are jobs and people should be happy to have them.  Some money > No money

          • Anonymous

            Where do you expect these people to live? In the dumpster out back? Or with their “extended” family? I’ve often said that sitting outside in the lawn chair is getting cheaper than trying to work. Pretty soon you’ll have us paying them for our jobs. Oh wait..

        • Anonymous

           I’m surprised you didn’t mention whaling.If you stay in one place,you’ll get run over.

      • Anonymous

         It is a public assistance wage. How do think the Walmart family made their billions? We subsidized their worker’s wages with food stamps, housing, medical care, child care. If you are a taxpayer you are paying through the nose to support those businesses.

        • Anonymous

           Just out of curiosity, do you shop at Walmart?

          • Anonymous

            I do not shop at Walmart or Sam’s. I boycott! And, I encourage others to do so, but efforts have yielded only a few converts. We humans are a greedy, self-serving lot. Not much hope for us, I am thinking. I find I like trees better. They give so much and ask so little.

          • Anonymous

            Hooray!  I boycott as well!!  You are absolutely right about the difficulty in persuading others to support the boycott.  Also right on humans – we are a sad, sad lot.

          • Anonymous

             And there are too many.People like the Duggars and Octomom are the worst of our society.

          • Anonymous

             You strike me as one who spends your $$ carefully and with thought beyond your purchase.I LOVE IT!Have your ever heard of Credo Mobile?They support the people unlike AT&T/Verizon which support people like Bachmann.

        • Anonymous

          Haha, Wal-mart made their billions because while we conveniently cry foul at everything being made in China, we are loading our carts up with the stuff. Stuff that cost them pennies on the dollar. Yet, we return by the millions day after day after day. Maybe instead of blaming a business that saw an opportunity, maybe we should blame ourselves for keeping them in business by shopping there?

          Oh, and FYI, Costco – the store you are hoping for in an earlier post – will pay the same wages.

          • Anonymous

             Wrong.Costco pays higher wages and their employees stay there longer.Satisfaction was higher by almost 20 points in a poll done comparing businesses.

          • Anonymous

            http://www.glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay/Costco-Wholesale-Hourly-Pay-E2590.htm – you can bet if they move here, they will be paying the low end of that scale. They only pay higher amounts in areas where getting employees is more competitive and sadly, that is not a problem here. $8 an hour is what you can expect. Not much higher than the minimum wage and definitely not worth being defended.

          • Anonymous

             Thanks for the link.I’m not familiar with glassdoor.I hope you’re wrong but people are desperate.

          • Anonymous

            It seems your info is dated. Here is the most recent I could find and cashiers start at $9.64, still a dollar shy of a living wage, but much better that minimum wage or $8 an hour. Though some of the positions do start at that. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Costco_Wholesale_company/Hourly_Rate/by_Job . In fact they have been criticized for paying too much: http://www.moneyandbusiness.com/careers/compensation/salary/average-salaries-costco . The figures quoted have gone up since 2011 as I used the site they reference for the above info.

          • Jeff D

            http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Walmart-Salaries-E715.htmThat same site shows Walmart starts at $6/hr.

          • Anonymous

             Exactly. And I do not shop at Walmart or Sam’s Club and I tell everyone I can that I do not and why. Glad to see the response about Costco, but I will look into that. You are very correct though. People support their policies with their purchases.

      • Anonymous

        Storm, it matters a whole lot. There’s a big difference between barely getting by versus fair income for an honest day’s work that you can actually live on. Maine has far too few of those kinds of jobs, not that I should have to point that out.

        • Anonymous

          How do you determine fair income?  It’s a highly subjective term and certainly there is a vast difference between an employee’s and an employer’s definition.

          • sassyfrazz

            I go to the classifieds and look up the cost of the average 1 bedroom apartment and see if I can manage to pay for it on $7.50 per hour/40 hours per week with no public assistance/rent subsidy whatsoever.   

            Next, I figure it based on 2 part-time minimum wage jobs totalling, say, 60 hours per week (adjusting for the need to take out more money for state taxes because by using the combined income for both jobs, it’ll boost me into a higher tax bracket). 

            For example, if I work at 2 local stores for minimum wage, each store will calculate my taxes based only on what I earn for that particular store.  When I combine the incomes at tax time, I end up in a different tax bracket and have to send a check into the State of Maine (contrary to this seemingly popular belief that low wage earners don’t pay taxes at all).

            Finally, I sit and try to figure out how a business justifies jacking up prices at a rate that’s above typical increasing costs while continuing to pay their employees minimum wage.

          • Anonymous

             So a fair wage to you is one that lets you pay rent on a single bedroom apt?  What about other expenses, like food?

            As to the need to send a check to the state, you could actually just ask one of your employers to withhold an amount over the usual withholding.  There’s a line on the W4ME that lets you do that.  It might make it easier for you than to come up with extra cash at tax time.

            Corporations exist to generate profits, that’s how they justify pricing and wages.

      • Anonymous

        The way I look at it if they dont want to work there then dont, someone else will be happy to work there.

      • Anonymous

        IF a husband and wife are both making minimum wage and have 2 children they can’t still provide for their family so in turn they still need public assistance.   Better paying jobs that offer health care would be great!  Why do you think Maine has a lot of college graduates moving to Portland area and to other States = better jobs -better pay – better benefits.  I have a degree and I could be making double the money outside of here, but I chose to live here because I like the other things that Maine has to offer like fishing, hunting in the fall, and snow so I can snowmobile.  I would look a little odd doing those things in downtown Boston.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for your investment in Bangor, Mr. Maietta. Good luck to you.

    • Anonymous

      Dave Mathews ,,,,,Ants marching.

    • Anonymous

       Oh he will make his millions…… on the backs of people paid public assistance wages, in part-time jobs, with no benefits. Corporate welfare. Well, maybe one person in each store will be a salaried full-time manager type. So that’s 24 decent(?) jobs. But he will have to pay taxes on that property. Oh, wait, were there tax breaks? More corporate welfare?

      • Anonymous

        You’re absolutely right.

      • Anonymous

        Wow… I guess the better option to the rest of the people who could fill the  “crappy” jobs would be to sit at home on welfare complaining about how there are just no jobs????   When did people become so entitled that honest work is beneath them? 

        • Anonymous

          Kind of like what you’re doing now?

      • Anonymous

        In VA,there was an attempt to pass a law that if you had over x employees,no more than a certain percentage of them could be receiving public assistance while working (Medicaid,mostly)The ONLY co. this would’ve affected was WM and it would’ve saved VA many millions of $. Needless to say,Eric Cantor rode in to save the day for WM.The bill failed.

        • Anonymous

           Thank you for sharing that. I will add it to my anti-Walmart store of information.

          • Anonymous

            No problem. I always look forward to your posts,

          • Anonymous

            Indeed. I wish there was a subscribe button for people.

  • Anonymous

    Leave it to Bangor and its city planners, Great some more retail shops.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, another strip mall with a bunch of retail stores to sell cheap crap made in China!  Just what we need!  How about putting a building there for a business that manufactures something?  We have to get back to making stuff here in the Good ‘ol USA instead of just selling stuff that’s made elsewhere.

    • Anonymous

      You can always move out to china and work?

      • Anonymous

        Why would you say that? peachhorror was complaining about the junk from China. I gotta say I’m more than sick of the junk quality too, at the same price good quality use to be.

        • Simple, really.  Don’t buy it.

          • Anonymous

            Who said I buy it?

          • Oh, you just want to complain about it.  I see.

          • sassyfrazz

            Ha ha ha ha…as if there’s much of a choice left anymore.   We’re reaping what we’ve sown with seeking the absolute lowest price for everything. 

    • Anonymous

      Yup, slave wage jobs for big retail chains. We’re open for business to serve Canadian tourists.

    • They Can Raise their Sails but if the Winds of Commerce don’t blow —

      they are Dead in the Water!

    • Anonymous

      Good luck with that…Given the NIMBY attitude here in the NANNY State…

      • Anonymous

         Read the article about how well received they were in Bangor.Doesn’t sound NIMBY to me.And to those who complain about China-in the late 90’s WM launched a huge Buy American promo with flags,veterans,the whole bit.It was  a DISASTER.Within three months all the signs came quietly down and went into the dumpster.

    • Anonymous

      The chicken wings won’t be from China

      • Guest

        No, but we ship our chicken feet to China. They actually love the things!

    • Anonymous

      It always sounds nice on paper, but reality has proven over and over that Americans do not want to PAY for American products. If they did, small businesses that make and/or sell their own products would not close daily while Wal-mart rakes it in.

      I own a business that is severely hobbled by the Chinese market – and yet that hasn’t stopped millions of people from buying the cheaper version opposed to our quality, yet higher priced version.

      American products are more expensive because we don’t pay our employees $12/day for 8 hours of work. You won’t get American products at Chinese prices. Until the public determines which is more important, we will continue to send manufacturing jobs overseas.

      • sassyfrazz

        Yup.  That sums it up quite nicely.

    • penobscot207

      K3Stratton – Was your application to lease the property and build a high-paying manufacturing facility turned down for any specific reason?

    • Anonymous

      Just because a product is stamped with “America” doesn’t make it worth the extra $500 you pay for it.

  • Anonymous

    It wasn’t just the economy that caused Shaw’s to give up on the project, was it?  Seems that there is no left turn allowed as cars come off the interstate, and the city planners were not willing to give way at the time–does that mean that “Pending approval from the city planners and council” they are willing fo do so for this Portland developer? 

  • Anonymous

    Obama better start upping the amount of money in those welfare checks if there is going to be any money around to support another mall in Bangor……..

    • Jeff D

      The states pays welfare not the federal government. Since 1997.

      • Anonymous

         Well dumb ole me. You see i have always held a job and i guess this shows what i know about a handout. Apparently you know all the ropes and just where your check/checks comes from.

        • Jeff D

          I was smart enough to leave Maine so I could get a decent job and not have to rely on government assistance.

        • Anonymous

          Wow, nothing like making a childish statement because someone knows a little more about something than you do. What happened to the days where we were appreciative to learn something new? 

  • Anonymous

    Why build another one? Why not revitalize the Broadway shopping center? Why not clean up the Airport Mall? Why not tear down the old Home Depot and build there?

    We have more than a handful of vacant and/or trashy strip malls already. Why build more? Pour money back into making the town better, not tearing up more land to just move those jobs somewhere else.

    • Joseph Willingham

      Those are some good points.  It’s a shame that that Home Depot wasn’t there for very long and now it’s just an abandoned piece of property.

      • Anonymous

         Home Depot should win the prize for absolute worst location in Bangor. I can’t stand having to go there now. Way better where it used to be!

        • Anonymous

          Am I the only geezer who keeps getting confused trying to leave their new parking lot?  And don’t even get me started on the Texas Roadhous/Kohls traffic flow nightmare!:)

          • Anonymous

             Yeah, what’s with the “let’s drive around awhile” exits these days?

    • Anonymous

      All of the buildings you mentioned are still owned and the owners want prices for them that nobody will pay.  That is why 3rd and Union next to the Rite Aid has been vacatant for over two years, well that and the obvious theft issues, but the owner will never even lease that out with what he wants for it.  Most people building a new business want their own building, not pay rent on someone else’ headache.

      • Anonymous

         Absolutely correct.I’ve worked on store resets when a chain bought another usually bankrupt chain.N I G H T M A R E !

    • Anonymous

       Oh, don’t tear down the old Home Depot. I want Costco to move in there.

      • Anonymous

         In your earlier comment you vilify the developer of this project because he’ll “make his millions…on the backs of people paid public assistance wages” and now you are a cheerleader for Costco.  Did I miss something about Costco that makes it something better than the subject of this article?
        For people who are actually looking for work, this project and the ensuing jobs are most welcome.  I’m willing to bet that a lot of us started out working for minimum wage, sometimes working more than one job to get by, and trying to improve our lot in life.  Then there are those for whom no job is good enough.

        • Jeff D

          At least Costco pays decent wages. They average about $17/hr vs. about $10 for Sam’s Club.
          http://www.moneyandbusiness.com/careers/compensation/salary/average-salaries-costco 
          http://hbr.org/2006/12/the-high-cost-of-low-wages/ar/1 

          • Brett Kirschbaum

             might want  some new sources,  that article is a bit old.  Plus there is no way Costco could come into Bangor and pay 17 an hour they need customers that are willing to pay  up to 50 percent more for the same items they can buy from sams club. Bangor is not big enough to support both a Costco and sams in any fashion.  I have a feeling that your comment comes from a hate of wall mart in general because of preconceived convictions. 

          • Jeff D

            http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Costco_Wholesale_company/Hourly_Rate
            http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Walmart.com/Hourly_Rate 

            I don’t think any one is getting rich working the register at Costco but I’ve shopped at both Costco and Sam’s Club and I think Costco has much more helpful employees. When you pay an extra buck or two an hour for a low-paying job you keep good employees a lot longer and don’t have to pay nearly as much to constantly train replacements. Costco and Sam’s Club prices are more or less the same.

          • Roy Blenkhorn

            your experience might show more helpful employees at costco then sams, but then again that costco you visited wasnt in maine was it.. you can visit other stores, in other states and meet some of the nicest, friendliest, kindest people, but visit that same place in bangor maine, and be greeted by miserable, unfriendly, unhappy, want you to hurry up and get out the door so they can go back to chatting with there friends thru text..

          • Jeff D

            Are you saying Mainers are too lazy and bitter to do a good job?

          • Roy Blenkhorn

            nope that wasnt what I was saying at all. But .. it does seem to apply a little. not to all. but a good percentage of the people who work retail/food service hate there lives its seems.

          • Jeff D

            How is that different than anywhere else?

            By paying an extra couple of bucks an hour Costco can hire and keep people that do not fall in to this category.

          • Roy Blenkhorn

            It doesnt matter how much an employee makes, they will always think they are worth more..

          • Anonymous

            http://www.glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay/Costco-Wholesale-Hourly-Pay-E2590.htm  – The low end of each scale is what people can expect to make here, where competition for employees is non-existent.  It is basically what Shaw’s and Hannaford’s pay and last I checked, no one declared them saving graces.

          • Jeff D

            Does Wal-Marts in Maine pay their cashiers $10 an hour to start?

          • Anonymous

            That graph is average pay, not starting pay.

          • Jeff D

            The average for a cashier on the link you posted is $15.36
            Compare the link you posted to Wal Mart on the same site:
            http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Walmart-Salaries-E715.htm

          • Anonymous

            I’m not arguing that Wal-mart pays peanuts, I’m just saying that I seriously doubt that we would see $10 an hour starting pay from Costco. I sincerely hope that they would, but I won’t hold my breath.

          • Jeff D

            The minimum wage in Maine is $7.50. Costco pays a premium for it’s employees so it can be selective in who they hire. If you work hard enough to make it through the 90-day probation period I don’t think a starting wage approaching $10/hr is would be out of the question, even in Bangor. Of course, maybe it’s not economically feasible and that’s why Costco hasn’t opened a store in Maine. In any case Costco may pay peanuts but they would be bigger peanuts than Walmart pays.

        • Anonymous

          Because it is the mentality of do what I say, not what I do. Just like all the rest of the holier than thou people that scream that we should be MAKING products, while they load up their carts at Wal-Mart and Target.

        • Anonymous

           When you started out was minimum wage closer to the living wage? I bet it was. Today minimum wage is $7.50 an hour and a living wage in Penobscot County is $10.18 (2010 data which is the latest according to our own state report on what it takes to just make ends meet) . That is a 36% difference. And after looking it seems Costco does a better job of paying its workers than their competitors (in fact they have been criticized for doing so), but they still may not start many of their workers at a living wage. Hard to say as that figure is based on cost of living. For example, the living wage in Bangor is $10.18 and Portland it is $12.53. In other states where cost of living is less that figure would be less so those wages listed at payscale may reflect something closer to a living wage for them. Yes, if you want more than to just make ends meet you will need to have two jobs, but even two full-time jobs at $7.50 gives you about $5 an hour to put towards something other than making ends meet. And, at 80 hours a week on the job when will you have time to have that life? I am sorry but it is a ridiculous argument when salaries, bonuses, and profits are so high for these companies.

          • Anonymous

            I would have to say, no, it was not closer to the living wage.  When I first entered the work force, I had a full-time, minimum wage job and a part-time job on the graveyard shift.  I had roommates in a 3 bedroom apt to ease the cost of housing.  I worked 70 hrs a week for 2 or 3 years but by doing that and making those sacrifices early, I have managed to cobble together a pretty good existence.   I’m no genius so I’m pretty sure there are other people out there who have done the same thing.

            Do you happen to have a link to the report you cite?  I’m sure I can find it but you could save me a minute if you were willing.

            As for the ridiculousness of the argument, the corporations are doing what they are meant to do:  make profits.  Our government is the regulator for what corporations are allowed and not allowed to do to meet that goal.  So long as the corporations are working within the allowed framework, you probably shouldn’t blame them for being good at what they are meant to do.  Would you still find it ridiculous if you were on the other end of the spectrum, in upper management of one of these companies?  And if you did find it ridiculous, how far would you be willing to go to change it?

          • Anonymous

             Thoughtful comments and questions. I do not mean in any way to diminish your efforts and your success. You achieved that with the deck stacked against you. You prevailed despite the challenges your full-time employer imposed upon you to insure his/her take was profitable. And, of course, you are right. Business is supposed to be profitable. The question is always one of who benefits? When everyone does it is a healthy sustainable business. When some benefit at the expense of others you have an oppressive business. Here is an example: when the recession hit one company froze salaries of middle and upper management but kept annual increases for line workers in place. Those at the bottom of the pay scale saw their monetary value increase because of a business decision made at the top. There was concern about the impact of the recession on those who earned the least. Those middle and upper levels salaries provided quite well for the employees affected. They would still be able to do better than get by. Businesses that employ people at minimum wage do so knowing full well their employees will qualify for public assistance. Walmart, for goodness sakes, had a person in each store whose job it was to help employees fill out their public assistance applications! Here is an article that articulates the issue: http://www.nwlaborpress.org/2010/0319/3-19-10DHS.html . I understand from another commenter that a legislator in VA tried to address the issue, but the bill was defeated also.
            Here is the page that has the link to the Living Wage Report: http://www.maine.gov/search?q=living+wage+report&button=Go&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maine.gov%2Flabor&site=test_collection&output=xml_no_dtd&client=test_collection&proxystylesheet=test_collection . It is the second on the list.

          • Anonymous

            And looking further, look at what I found. The city of Cambridge MA requires that a living wage be paid: Chapter 2.121 http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=16889&stateId=21&stateName=Massachusetts&customBanner=16889.jpg&imageclass=L&cl=16889.txt. So some municipalities are beginning to deal with this issue when the state won’t.

          • Anonymous

            Thanks Kayak, but my experience is far from unique.  My guess is that you have done much the same (unless, of course, you are a trust baby ;-> ).  I think this society is making it far too easy to be a non-contributor; personal responsibility seems to be in large part disappearing and that does not bode well for our future. 

            That’s a noble company you mention and there are not many that would follow that course.  However, I do stand by my position that government is more to blame than corporations.  That being said, I try to be thoughtful about where I spend my money – although it is not easy to find products made by socially responsible companies.  And even those companies who start out in that vein usually fall to the all mighty dollar at some point, i.e., The Body Shoppe sale to L’Oreal.

            I’ll take a look at the links you provided; thanks for taking time to send them.

          • Anonymous

             A most enjoyable exchange. Thank you for your thoughts.

  • Anonymous

    Our City Planners have lost all sense of reality when it comes to money-making. This “plan” for Stillwater Ave. is almost as bad as this one:

    http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Whisper-Dr-Bangor-ME-04401/2119535808_zpid/

    Look closely on the left corner. That is someone’s home back there with this one built recently right in front of their living room windows!

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the land of retail and services… Money will only circle so much before it all ends up in the middle. Yes a few might get rich on the edges but very few.
    Factory jobs is what is needed.. When is the last time the city of Bangor brought factory jobs to the area.. Is there anyone at city Hall looking to do that. Imagine giving tax breaks to someone setting up a factory in Bangor, while employing people and getting them off assistants….
    The retail space is a tax base for The city… Yet the more the city gets in revenue the more they look for ways to spend it.. The city couldn’t save a dime if they had to. another circle….Keep electing people who feed their businesses from the public trough

    • Anonymous

      Yes, there are people looking at how Bangor can develop those types of jobs. But not a lot of those jobs are being created right now. 

    • Anonymous

      We have had manufacturing jobs. We, the citizens,  phase them out by opting for a Chinese knock off version of what the are selling because it saves us a few bucks. 

      • Anonymous

        I only buy what I need. I refuse to shop at the big box stores.. The city of Bangor is funny. They spend 100 millon in the downtown area,  then allow box stores to come in and distroy downtown businesses..

  • Superuser23

    How many more of these things can they cram on Stillwater? You think Stillwater has traffic problems now……

  • Guest

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    • Anonymous

       Sorry to burst your bubble, but the servers and bartenders that work at BWW should make fairly decent money as it will be the big-time sports bar in the area.

      • Anonymous

        You are right,  but the next question is will it last

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, it should do really well. Great sports bar.

          • Anonymous

            Are they going to take customers away from the downtown area where the city spent 100 millon dollars to promote.

      • Guest

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  • Anonymous

    BW3 will do very well in Bangor, it will become the go to Sports Bar in the area.

    • Anonymous

       Yes, but it will be nowhere near the Entertainment Corridor!  Oh noes!!

    • Anonymous

       Aw, gee, so I have to watch for drunken crazies when I head home? I liked it better when they were down by the airport or downtown.

      • Anonymous

        Just what the heck is a sports bar anyways ? Is it like more of a upper class bar. Unlike a real run of the mill bar or pub that normal people attend ?  Just asking as i don’t frequent any bar.

        • Anonymous

          It’s a place to get drunk. OK!!! They probably will drive better cars and wear nicer clothes but still be drunk…. I hope that answers your question

          • Anonymous

            OK!!!

  • Anonymous

    yay, 200 minimum wage jobs while a few people at the top make all the loot. the world has gone corporate crazy. remember when people could start their own businesses? the american dream is a lie.

    • Joseph Willingham

      I guess it’s better to be unemployed and on the dole…

    • Anonymous

       Funny, the few at the top that you complain about are mostly R’s like Mitt-and Ted who you’re such a fan of.

  • Bangor is a great town … and I love wings!!!

    • Anonymous

      Wait till you see the prices. One wing and a small soda and you will run holding on to your wallet for dear life. You got to be making $30.00 per hour at your job to be able to stay there for 20 minutes and have a few wings.

      • Traditional Wings
        12 Wings
        $9.29

        Add a drink such as…

        Berry Lemonade
        Savor the flavor. Our signature blend of wild fruits and berries is bursting with flavor. Handcrafted with Minute Maid® Lemonade.
        $3.19

        That really broke the bank and if you order a soda they offer free refills. Their prices are not horrible at all.

        Even 50 wings is cheap…

        Traditional Wings
        50 Wings
        $33.99

        http://m.buffalowildwings.com/menu.php

      • Anonymous

         How many wings and drinks are you having in that 20-minute span? This isn’t a competitive eating contest.

    • Anonymous

      I love Bangor and also love wings but I’ll stick to Hero’s and Geaghan’s. Locally owned and operated. Plus the wings at either place are better than BWW. 

  • Anonymous

    A job working minimum wage for tips and no benefits? Where do I sign up?

  • Anonymous

    Crappy food, crappy jobs, crappy location, crappy ” open for business” meme !

  • Anonymous

    Im excited!!

  • Anonymous

    Looks like the private sector is doing just fine.

  • Joseph Willingham

    It’s too bad that moved all those people out of the trailer park in 2000 just for nothing to happen until now.

    That being said, I was hoping they’d put a Saks’ or Neiman’s in there!

  • Anonymous

    Yay! Another corporate chain! Where will they send their profits?

    • Anonymous

       I believe the corporate office is in Minnesota. But who knows if that’s where the profits go, or if they disappear into the Cayman Islands?

    • Anonymous

      That is such a ridiculous consideration.  Only the smallest employers in Maine keep the majority of their money here, and even their supplies are mostly purchased out of state.  Most would think GE in Bangor is a great employer with good wages, bennies, etc.  Where does their corporate money end up?  Who gives a rat’s behind?

  • Anonymous

    Another soon to be abandoned strip mall called a plaza in Bangor. Funny part is, this monstrosity isn’t even built yet. I am amazed a bank would even lend money out for this because they will be right in court in a few years on foreclosure proceedings. Drive around Bangor and be amazed how many empty and vacant store fronts there are. Only good thing will be the 200 part time, slave wage jobs that will last a year or two. Then bankruptcy and foreclosure.

    • Anonymous

       Foreclosures are lucrative.

    • Anonymous

      I haven’t seen too many empty storefronts in the part of town where this will be located. Very unlikely many of these new businesses will fail right away either. But unless you live across the street so would be forced to look at an eyesore, how does that affect you?

    • Anonymous

      I know one thing.  Any of those businesses will do very well to avoid employing the likes of you!

  • My fist job was from an independently private owned clam shack and I never since have had a better fried clam or better job experiance in the State of Maine!

    We don’t need NO stinkin Corporation Resterunts!

  • Anonymous

    The article says that the building will house retail, restaurants, and medical offices. The average pay in most medical offices far exceeds minimum wage. If Bangor doesn’t “need” the businesses that pay minimum wage, then nobody will patronize them and they will fail soon enough. I’d rather see all high paying jobs too, but that’s just not very realistic, is it? This plaza will help pay the bills for the construction workers who build it, and then it will provide a few very high paying jobs (doctors, etc.) and a bunch of medium to low paying jobs, all of which beat collecting unemployment. What’s not to like?

    • Anonymous

      Get real. You must be new to Maine.  Most of the jobs will be part time, slave wage jobs. Yes maybe a Doctor or Dentist with a nurse. Don’t go overboard here. They are not building a medical building. It will be a restaurant and stores. Typical low wage, part time, no benefit jobs. Who knows after a few months they may have to import foreign workers to staff this mess. Since the wages will be so low. Business owners have to import workers in other parts of Maine.

      • Anonymous

        But just think, Knight, you can tax bejejuz out of ’em !

      • Anonymous

        Like I said, it would be nice if someone would locate high paying jobs here, something like a factory, but after decades of liberal politicians adding regulation after regulation, that’s not going to happen because the cost is too high. But even what you call slave wage jobs are better than no job if you’re hungry! As for me being new to this area, you missed that one too….by about 55 years and counting.

  • Mmmm, more traffic.  Time to rename “Stillwater” to “Stilltraffic”.

  • Anonymous

    No matter what it is the libs whine…LOL…They whine if somebody wants to invest money here and they whine they’re not good enough jobs or they protest it being built where the business wants to locate…LOL…Libs…Waa , waa , waa..Jesh…

    • Anonymous

       I miss the fountain downtown. No one asked me if I wanted it removed. Anything else?

      • Joseph Willingham

        I liked it too.  A lot of people, including my partner, hated it, but I think that the sculpture could have been presented in a better setting.  But now maybe they’ll be able to utilize that square better and maybe even close off that short stretch of Broad Street permanently.

        • Anonymous

          for what reason. close the street to drink on???? People have their priorities messed up.. Life is not all about drinking and partying.

        • Anonymous

           How do you feel about the venue of the beautiful sculpture stuck down in the hole beside 40 Harlow St. ? If you haven’t seen her, go look at the travesty with that placement!

    • Anonymous

      I am a republican please don’t  put me on you side..  Retail and Services do not not create new money… They only circlulate it until it’s all in corporate hands… It’s getting old and people are tired of working 2 jobs just to pay bills with nothing left over. 
       

  • PabMainer

    Aw….no Chick-fil-A…….C’mon man…..

    • Anonymous

      Chick fil-A really arent that good, you are not missing much…

      • PabMainer

        How about a Hooters then……

        • Anonymous

          There you go, but that too is a low wage job….:)

  • Anonymous

    We got hot wings, we need a place with half chickens and meatloaf.

    • Anonymous

       We need a good Greek restaurant for fine dining. I’ve said this for years.

  • Billy Gilbert

    I’m appreciative that people want to build new establishments, and they are taxpayers right? The jobs it creates goes beyond the restaurant employees, and it’s company’s that decide to come to the the area and keeps the local business in business. And just because the pay may not meet certain financial standings I’m sure it meets the immediate need of the many young people that are putting themselves through a Maine college, and pays for their books, and their portion of the rent that is due to a Maine local.. I know people here like to keep Maine pristine and not littered with corporate business but let’s face it, but if we are not staying vital economically that will impact all of us. Just seems we all need to look at the same good that it will bring. I and their families wings are damn good! Especially the spicy garlic. I

    • Anonymous

      quote. Just seems we all need to look at the same good it will bring. so your point of view is written in gold.

  • Anonymous

    For a small town, Bangor’s traffic is pretty bad.  Guess we can cram a few more cars into that area, though. Hehe

    • Jeff D

      What makes you think there will be more cars? There will just be less cars in other strip malls in the area.

  • Anonymous

    shyesah!

  • Anonymous

    Chicken wings and more jobs for the area? You had me at chicken wings!

  • Anonymous

    Buffalo Wild Wings is so good.    Glad to see it’s finially coming here.  

  • Anonymous

    All you people holler about the hd and cc buildings need to get a clue hd is owned by hd and they ain’t selling plus they still pay taxes you don’t justmove into a building cause its empty 3 thing determine success in business location location location BTW get a couple min wage jobs and get off welfare stop whining

    • Anonymous

       unintelligible ranting much?

  • Anonymous

    Does this mean we will finally be able to turn left off the interstate legally????

  • Anonymous

    Whoopie…I would sooner loose an arm then drive on Stillwater Ave ever again….
    Whoopie…another unhealthy chain restaurant for Bangor to fatten up on….. 

  • Anonymous

    Someone will whine and cry and it will be turned down.
    Progress people…

    • Anonymous

      you think national coroprations is progress??? Low pay wefare wages is progress?? you funny!!

      • Anonymous

        Low paying jobs are better than no jobs. Bottom line.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if Home Depot is doing better now that it has moved down the street a few blocks –could never figure that one out ?

    • Anonymous

      follow wal-mart. they attract traffic,, Yet not my traffic.

  • Anonymous

    It seems to me that if a million dollars worth of gold were given to the vast majority of commenters on this sight, they would complain that it is too heavy.

    • Anonymous

       Not me. I’d help people with it. I’d open a bank with fair credit.

    • Anonymous

      You are correct.

  • why not add the mall there .. They already did the ground work and now it sits empty . I am all for it because that means my family can eat for a few more months .. My husband works construction and this is exactly the thing he does .. I am all for adding more jobs to this area .. If you dont like it move to china !!!! 

  • Anonymous

    So, once again I ask:  will the planning board and council now give permission for left turns coming off the stillwater exit?  Interesting if they do, making one wonder why it was not given to Shaw’s, since that was part of the reason they did not continue with their building, not just a stagnant economy.
    Also, Buffalo Wings does not have the greatest food around–

  • Anonymous

    What naive person believes it will create 200 NEW jobs?

  • Anonymous

    For all of the people on here and around the state that do not like the chain restaraunts, the low paying jobs, the strip malls, and the mega box stores. There is a very simple solution…. DO NOT GO THERE, shop local, there are plenty of private restaraunts around that have superior food, stores with superior products. And best yet the money stays local instead of going to a corporate giant somewhere. They only keep building these places because the consumers keep using them. I for one try to avoid them other than places that dont have a suitable local substitue. Unfortunately for me and many others who try to shop local are being limited further every day with the localy owned places shutting down because the bulk of the general public would rather buy cheap and convenient. CONSUMERS are at the center of all of our troubles in our state and country. If we will stop settling for good enough just because it is cheap and convenient the locally owned places will be better off as well as our local and national economy. Now I will step down from my soapbox..

    • Anonymous

      You mean we have to take responsibility for some of our problems? We can’t just blame it on millionaires and politicians??? Oh my!

    • Anonymous

       Liked! If I could vote like a Diebold machine, I’d do it for your comment! Yes! Pay your neighbors and friends for what you need instead of some corporate entity that doesn’t give two hoots how Bangor, Maine is doing.  Kaching!

  • Anonymous

    I wish we could get one up here in aroostook county BWW is awesome.

  • Better late than never! This has made my day, I love this place! Every time I have been to one it’s always has been a great time! Good food, great atmosphere to watch the games and the beer selection never disappoints!

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t all you whiners pool your money and open a restaurant or discount store that pays high wages. See how that works for you…

    • Joseph Willingham

      That’s constructive.  When people complain about something they’re told to try doing it themselves?  Don’t like the way the paper is run, then YOU try it!  Do like the that movie is, then YOU make a movie!  Don’t like that BAM doesn’t carry certain books Borders did, then YOU open a book store!  That’s just silly.

      • Anonymous

         Especially with the availability of credit skewed towards cronies and insiders.

      • Anonymous

        What I’m saying is, it won’t work, no one is going to buy a $20 burger so you can pay your help a living wage. Some jobs just can’t do it, its not the big bad corporation!

    • Anonymous

      Just like rising the minimum wage to 15 bucks , then all you got is 10 dollar a gallon milk and 8 bucks for a big Mac…

  • Lori Littlefield

    yeah…..200 new job = other places closing and 200 jobs lost…awesome….

  • Guest

    • Anonymous

      Like what? Maine has nothing, always will, its becoming a place to retire…

      • Jeff D

        For 5 months a year so you don’t have to pay income tax.

        • Anonymous

          You are correct…. Maine has Blueberries, lobstah, a dying wood industry….And some tourism a few months of the year.. Anytime anything new comes around people cry and whine and shoot it down.

  • Anonymous

    It is interesting to read the comments about restaurant jobs being low paying and unimportant jobs. As Vacationland, Maine certainly creates a lot of service related jobs. The dilemma is how to create livable wages within a service industry. I have met with several people (mabe even a lot) of folks withing the restaurant business that are making really good money. Great service equals great tips and frankly, many of the employees in this industry really love their jobs and have chosen it for their career.
    All that being said, it cetainly isn’t wise to create a community economy on service related businesses. I do get it. But what I really did like to hear in this article was that the developer felt that the folks in Bangor were good to work with and helped them through the red tape of government bureaucracy. I say hats off to Bangor. That is a success the folks in Bangor should be proud of.
    And I must agree with several others that commented on the vacant buildings being vacant for a reason. Many (maybe not all) of these buildings are vacant bacause an owner thinks they have something more than what they have. Many of these buildings are simply over priced.
    Whether another eatery will make Bangor a better place to live and work might be a subject for another article. But for now, great news for the area.  

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, I didn’t take the time to check my spelling. My bad!

  • Anonymous

    When someone says they are working 2 jobs just trying to get by, does that mean they are working 2 jobs just to give their money to someone else (paying Bills).. Money is the only thing I know that flows uphill

  • Anonymous

    I heard they pay the women less than the men at these joints, they believe in the war on women…LOL

  • Buffalo Wild Wings yes! Saves me from driving to S. Portland for my hot wings fix.

  • Meaghan Mower

    Why can’t we get a Panera Bread? I stinks that I have to travel to Augusta just to get the delicious soups, sandwhiches, and salads!

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