Comments for: LePage meets with Jewish groups after Gestapo statements

Posted July 13, 2012, at 9:48 a.m.
Last modified July 13, 2012, at 1:28 p.m.

AUGUSTA | Gov. Paul LePage on Friday met with representatives from two Jewish groups following comments he has made over the past week comparing the Internal Revenue Service to the Gestapo, Adolf Hitler’s secret police force in Nazi Germany. LePage met in the State House cabinet room with representatives …

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  • Anonymous

    Why on Earth would these groups bother to meet with this man?  He has since clarified his remarks, and confirmed in that clarification that he meant exactly what he said.  This man is beneath the office that he holds.

    • Anonymous

      How bullheaded can a person be while talking out of both sides of his mouth.  You just cost yourself being reelected.

      • Anonymous

         Being a Jew myself I was not at all offended by the reference. There are in fact many comparisons that can be made between the two. So are these folks mad cause he was right or the word itself?

        • Guest

          People are mad because it’s LePage and they will use anything as ammunition against him. I like him, and personally didn’t see a big deal with what he said, either.

        • Anonymous

          They’re mad because he’s not right and he was flippant while doing it. The IRS isn’t anywhere near the gestapo and they never will be. Punishments for tax evasion are now tantamount to genocide? No way in hell. The two aren’t comparable whatsoever.

        • Anonymous

          One doesn’t even have to be a Jew to recognized there was nothing inappropriate about what the governor said. But the far-left is only trying to find any excuse to denigrate the governor for political gain. That’s all the more reason why nobody should vote for anyone associated with them. They can only wreak shame on themselves and on the office of the governor. That said, they who are demanding an apology from the governor are the ones who need to apologize to the governor and to all Mainers. 

          • Anonymous

            Once again, the party of personal responsibility is refusing to take responsibility. Ridiculous and pathetic, truly.

          • Anonymous

            I think you’re got your parties mixed up. Those who are trying to stir up hatred towards the governor by making fictitious accusations of wrongdoing are the ones who need to take responsibility for their own cowardice by identifying themselves, among other things. So, exactly who are you? 

          • Anonymous

            I think you’re doing the PeeWee Herman routine “I know you are, but what am I?”

            Democrats aren’t responsible for the offensive garbage that comes out of LePage’s mouth. It’s not their fault that he engaged in hyperbole and was flippant about invoking the holocaust. They’re not the ones acting shamefully. They’re not the ones that need to apologize. That is such a ridiculous assertion.

            Get real and be honest, will you?

          • Anonymous

            Okay, fair game. Now tell me what was demeaning about the governor’s remark. More specifically, how did his remark minimize the Jews’ suffering at the hands of the Gestapo as some have suggested in this venue? Interestingly, one poster who identified himself or herself as a Jew stated they found nothing offensive about the remark. With that I have yet to find anybody who could tell me about the nature of the so-called “offense” by the governor who merely suggested that the IRS might be dispatched as it once was in the past using Gestapo like tactics to collect taxes.

          • Anonymous

            It’s pretty obvious as to why the remark is offensive if you’d stop yapping and accusing everyone of hatred for just one minute. The IRS is no where near the gestapo. Tax evasion is a criminal offense and that isn’t something new. Not paying your taxes has always had penalties attached to it. That’s nothing new. So to say that that is tantamount to what the gestapo did, literally knocking down doors and collecting people for no reason for the purpose of genocide? You don’t find that offensive? The two are NO WHERE NEAR comparable and to suggest they are completely diminishes how horrifying those events were. All for politics.

            You keep saying nobody has explained why this offensive and that is obviously very dishonest of you. You think if you say grass is blue no one will notice that you’re not telling the truth, but no matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn’t make it so. Why don’t you stop screeching for once and stop defending what is clearly disgusting and offensive and actually listen. You might learn a thing or two.

          • Anonymous

            I guess you’re too young to remember. Some years ago people across the country were complaining about abuse by the IRS in its treatment of taxpayers. Newspaper throughout were using the term “gestapo” to described the treatment even though no doors may have been knocked down. On final analysis Congress had to intervene to straighten out the agency that was using devious and unscrupulous means (the Gestapo used those means as well) to collect money it thought it was owed.

            Interestingly, posters have been accusing the governor for his insensitivity towards Jews, but now you are pointing to his insensitivity towards a government agency of all things. Either way, there is no case here of insensitivity towards anything or anyone.

            Now, am I screeching?

          • Anonymous

            No, I clearly pointed to his insensitivity towards what happened during the holocaust. The comparison is phony and the two are no where near each other — that cheapens what the real gestapo actually did. Collecting taxes is no where near collecting people to be killed. Get that through your head. If you’re unable to comprehend plain English, then I can’t help you. 

            Either way, you constantly deny reality and I don’t really care to engage in a conversation with a person who does that. Keep telling yourself the grass is blue though. Whatever works for you, I guess.

          • Anonymous

            Now I feel compelled to ask you how the governor was insensitive towards what happened during the holocaust. Specifically, how does his remark “cheapen what the Gestapo actually did” by suggesting the IRS could be dispatched as it was in the past by using Gestapo-like tactics to collect taxes? If anything, his remarks serves to remind us all how terrible the Gestapo was and not the other way around.

            Now, am I denying reality by asking you to explain exactly how the governor was being insensitive – my original question? Hey, I’m just a simple man. Help me understand something I might be missing here.

          • Anonymous

            You are denying reality when you say that no one has explained this, when, including me, directly to you, has. I’ve done so several times. 

            LePage remarks don’t serve as a reminder. That is so ridiculous and disgusting to suggest. Tax evasion is a crime with penalties. Always has been. In the most extreme case, not paying your taxes can land you in jail. To suggest that a criminal (going to jail for not paying taxes) is anywhere close to literally millions of innocent people being collected for genocide is something that is so stupid, disgusting and offensive. The two aren’t close and they will never be close. Period. Just stop defending that, it’s not true. 

            Go back and read the comments if you’re sincerely confused. Speak to people who are offended and actually listen. You seem more willing to attack and dismiss others as being hateful than listening. I know from the gay marriage debate that you’d rather seek out false information that you agree with than actually listen to the truth (for example you cited an article with decades old studies included in it that have time and time again be found to be erroneous and new information and studies currently trump it, yet you still affirmed that the erroneous information was true because you agreed with it). I’m sure you can find someone else that agrees with grass is blue, but again, doesn’t make it so. 

          • Anonymous

             They are not responsible for what come out of his moth he is. HE was not being flip about the holocaust but a group of soldiers int he war. His comments where comparing a GERMAN military unit to the IRS. This comment was not about Jews. Again this is America. We have the freedom to say what we with. Go to Germany and try to do a “Hitler salute” in public you will get arrested!

            Let us look back and see the truly vile things that where said about Bush. By many of the high ranking dems. That is hatred pure and simple.

          • Anonymous

            I didn’t say he had no right to say what he did. But you’re literally arguing against yourself. If he has a right to say that, then people have a right to say they’re offended. It you can’t have one but not the other.

            It’s so dismissive and lazy to claim that this is about hatred. Try commenting on the merits of the argument instead of just ignoring reality. 

          • Anonymous

             I agree people have the right to dislike what he said. Being a Jew I was not nor am in any way offended. Thus expressing my freedom of speech. One among other rights the IRS and the Gestapo both remove/ removed  from people without a warrant. See what I did there????

          • Anonymous

            Right and another similarity is that the IRS and the Gestapo are/were both humans! See what I did there? Certain similarities don’t make things the same thing. It’s a ridiculous comparison. Period. 

          • Anonymous

             I said similar not the same. They are that is a fact.

          • Anonymous

            You are trying to attach the two with weak similarities. 

      • Anonymous

        I respectfully disagree.  He cost himself reelection long ago.

        But those who support him should send him a dozen tripple bacon cheeseburgers for lunch today.

        • StillRelaxin

          Stay focused folks. There’s no need to suffer the humiliation of Mr. LePage’s presence any more than necessary. No, we can’t recall him but come November we can cripple this man politically just as much as his lack of intelligence and grace currently cripples him socially. Simply vote in Democratic House and Senate majorities and much of our current pain and level of embarrassment will vanish overnight.

          • Anonymous

            Or the next two years will be really funny as we get to watch an even more frustrated fool have the kind of temper tandems that  “bosses”  who have exceeded their own level of complacency usually save for behind closed door.

          • Anonymous

            So you want to cripple the governor! Now your true colors are showing, by that I mean your hatred. Incidentally, not everyone feels the governor is doing a bad job. You might want to give those people a little more respect by acting respectfully instead of resorting to coward name-calling and personal attacks. Disagreeing with policies is understandable, but being disagreeable is quite another thing, especially when doing so anonymously without use of your full real name.

          • StillRelaxin

            As stated, “Politically to match his personal deficiencies.” Where you tried to bend this gave me a chuckle, thanks. Sorry to take the following here personally with you but this was your chosen path not mine. It may be wise for YOU to look within to discover your own level of “Hate” as well as dishonesty, then try not to expose yourself further in this public place. Good luck.

          • Anonymous

            I pointed out your own dishonesty. You had the opportunity to correct it by admitting error and thereby recouping yourself. Rather you chose to attack me. Now if you feel I am being dishonest, that is,  not speaking truthfully from the heart, then maybe you should be more specific in telling me how exactly I am being dishonest. After all, one can’t correct something he or she is not aware of.

            One more thing, I do hate at times, but I try to direct my hatred at such things as creative accusations obviously designed to put others down. No one yet has made an argument as to why the governor’s “Gestapo” remark was demeaning to Jews.

          • Anonymous

            Show respect and don’t name-call? And yet you’re defending the guy who is comfortable telling the President to go to hell and comparing the IRS to the gestapo. You are incredibly unprincipled. It’s ridiculous.

          • Tom Brown III

             I’ll tell the president to go to hell. He isn’t King Obama… he isnt the the messiah lol. He is just a dude.

          • Anonymous

            That’s beyond the point. whawell is demanding respect while he defends the disrespectful actions of another. That’s pure hypocrisy. 

          • Anonymous

            You accuse this man of cowardice, and name calling, do you know Mr.Lepage history with the armed forces during the veitnam era? I suggest you take a look at his own name calling……the pot calling the kettle black……..

          • Anonymous

             yes stay focused paul. good job. if you’re irritating this crowd you must be doing something right.

    • Anonymous

      “Why on Earth would these groups bother to meet with this man?  ”

      They want to see how bad he really smells. 

      They need to see his body language and fell his vibe as they asked him, eye to eye, 
      if he has any idea of how what he said is always how it starts.

      They want to see if he really understands what “never again” means, not only to Jews,
      but to any minority scapegoated by any right wing windbag extremist poppet 
      playing to the worst instincts of a certain under-educated, a certain disenfranchised class of Nationalist bullies and whiners, in any government position of power, anywhere, anytime.

  • Anonymous

    What LePage has done, this time, is even worse than his previous insults:  he has made an antisemitic statement, merely hinted at apology, then made yet another antisemitic statement.

    People call him a buffoon, but I am very scared by his behavior, because a lot of people are going to like it, all for the wrong reasons.  What we are seeing in LePage is someone trying to rouse up hate and harness that dark energy for his own purposes. 

    If he succeeds, he could take this country in a frightening awful direction.  He truly makes me shudder in fear.  And I believe he knows exactly what he’s doing and what he wants.

    • Anonymous

      What in the world are you talking about?  Calling the IRS the Gestapo is anti-Semitic?  

      Clueless.Drivel.

    • Anonymous

      “I am very scared by his behavior, because a lot of people are going to like it, all for the wrong reasons. ” 

      You stated that very well, and it is much the same thing , stated in a better way, 
      than how I expressed the very same sentiments, in my comment answering the question : 

      “Why on Earth would these groups bother to meet with this man?  ”

      They want to see how bad he really smells. 

      They need to see his body language and fell his vibe as they asked him, eye to eye, if he has any idea of how what he said is always how it starts …. “

  • Anonymous

    In case anyone was wondering, yes, the gov is all over the national news again.  This is the 4th or 5th time.  I don’t think any of them have brought a single job to Maine or improved anyone’s life in the least.

  • Anonymous

    he makes those statements to satisfy his moronic base and then does a little soft shoe backup.  his base needs to unclench a bit.

  • EB

    Are you kidding me?! Don’t apologize!! If anyone owes us an apology its the Feds!..and the people who don’t think its a good comparison. I think so! I wish I thought of it!

  • Anonymous

    Really what did Maine expect from a Mardens Manager ?
    Have you ever been to Mardens? 
    They are all nasty dirty and it’s workers all live under the poverty level.
    Lepage won’t be happy until Maine is one big Mardens.

    • Anonymous

       Head on over to Walmart where old people greet you and the money leaves Maine. Walmart —  home of the corporate theft of the smiley face and destroyer of towns.

      • Anonymous

        Sorry – try again.
        I think that all business’s should be responsible for the workers they employ.
        Meaning that if your workers qualify for “entitlement programs” you should not be in business.
        Why should taxpayers be responsible for Mardens or Walmarts workers?
        Shouldn’t they be responsible for their own workers and not pass the buck to the taxpayers?
        See that is the problem with tea trolls.
        They scream about people being on welfare at the same time they want to remove minimum wage.
        They cry about taxes at the same time they pat Lepage on the back for creating taxpayer funded jobs for his family.
        So what is it that you tea trolls want if not to just be bullies?
        Because if you REALLY cared about your taxes you would want ALL government entitlement spending stopped and you would want business owners to be required to support the workers who make them money.

        • Anonymous

           Sorry badcop, you are so far off the mark. Why should a business ever be responsible for anything other than paying its employees for working? Are you saying that you believe employers are the Daddy?  I do not believe we as taxpayers are responsible for Marden’s or Walmart’s workers, you misunderstood me.  I think welfare should be very sparingly given out as a last resort not as a way of life for generations. The system is highly lucrative for someone and the someone is not us Mainers.

          • Anonymous

            A business needs to be responsible to pay the workers enough to keep them above poverty level and off the welfare rolls.
            Yes this is their responsibility as a owner.
            When I deiced that I wanted to expand my business I made sure I was financially stable enough to provide for my workers long term.
            It is MY responsibility to keep them off the welfare rolls by paying a decent wage and (gasp) health insurance.
            Have I had a few lean years – sure – but it was ME who took the hit not my workers.

          • Anonymous

            I do not agree. It’s nice that you feel responsible for keeping your workers above poverty level, but it is not your responsibility. You have a contract with your employee. They work. You pay them a certain agreed amount for the work. Either of you can say bu-bye at any time when you wish that contract to end. You probably are one of those that think I should babysit my tenants to monitor their behavior. Am I right?

  • Anonymous

    Politicians: Mouth always open and their hand in the air. And it does not matter whether it is LeRage, Hitler, Caesar or Obama. Their love of life is ruling the conditioned lemmings of the world.

  • Anonymous

    Your hero Lepage is nothing but one big bully with a chip on his shoulder.
    The bully admits that he has been this way all his life – fondly remembering his candy stealing days on the streets of Lewiston.
    Now he says the IRS is a big bully and he is upsetty.
    Really?
    Seems to me the tea party can sure dish it out but they certainly can not take it.

  • Alice Clark Goldsmith

    This is what we can expect from our GOV. He is dumb & dumber…!

    • Anonymous

      that is rude. comments like yours make mainers look bad.

      • Anonymous

        That was rude but yet Lepage can tell the president to go to hell and kiss his butt and you giggle like a school girl.
        If the tea trolls can not take it maybe they should learn to play in the sand box like civilized human beings.
        But they can’t instead the big school yard bullies have much more fun pushing the little guy into the mud and joking about it to his buddies cause it makes them feel better about themselves.

        • Anonymous

           A little self-reflection here? The end is coming soon enough and we shall see who has been the most strategic in this ridiculous chess game. Our government is extorted, the “elected” officials are not representing the people at all and there are secret plans to hand over what’s left to the United Nations. So, sit and hurl insults all day long and see how far that gets us.

      • Anonymous

         Not only makes us look bad, but makes us look like we are ignorant. Trust me when I say that Mainers will be pivotal in many ways on the restoration of this country because many are not ignorant and are well aware of what is in the works here.

      • Guest

        Governors like ours make Mainers look bad.

      • Anonymous

        Really!?  His Blaine House should be a F.E.M.A. trailer to match his level rudeness and class.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if these groups are equally upset about Israel using Gestapo techniques against the Palestinians for the 5 decades?

    • Anonymous

      I was looking for the first one to point that out!
      Good for you!

    • Anonymous

       Disgusting comment.

  • Anonymous

    He probably had to look up the word “Holocaust” to find out why there was such a flap over his insensitive remark which he just can’t seem to back down from.

  • Anonymous

    No that is NOT how it started. It started through fear and creating their own definition of history as you have just done devoid of any real facts.

  • Anonymous

    They wish to stay in denial april, we can’t do anything about it until the reality comes right to their door. No matter how many times we try to warn them that the planned utopia is only for the traitors and not for Americans, they cannot hear us.

  • Anonymous

    glad he doesn’t want to see it repeated. what a prince of a guy.

  • Anonymous

    You keep saying that, and it’s still not true.

    • Anonymous

      so you flagged me for telling the truth… I see how your (liberals) form of freedom of speech works…
      I have had friends who were tatooed on the arm.. who were sent to the camps… They didn’t believe what was happening either, just like yourself.. If they would have known they would not have went peacefully.

  • Anonymous

    Put a microphone in this guy’s hand and he is sure to amuse you with his idiocy. This state needs a governor who can unite the people in a common goal for the common good. The one we have there now thrives on spreading hate and fear and polarizing the people. He is not fit to be governor of the State of Maine. After issuing a private apology to Chaleff for his insensitive remark, he goes out and repeats the same assinine analogy in another state and even tries to enhance it with more of his twisted logic and false propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    ” LePage told a reporter that the IRS might not be as bad as the Gestapo, but that the federal tax collection agency is headed in that direction.” This is not hate speech. It was a  comparison. WOW!! These groups are big cry babies. 

    • Guest

      It was an insensitive comparison.  Were your ancestors victims of one of the worst mass killings in history?  If not, then who are you to say they are wrong in taking issue with this.

      • Anonymous

        Forget history and it is sure to repeat it’s self

      • Anonymous

        Yes, My people were victims of mass killings. I am Native American.

        • Tom Brown III

           which federal agencies carried out…

      • Anonymous

        The Gov. would not be insensitive in a mean way as many portray here.  Read about him and his family.  They are all very nice people.

  • Anonymous

    Divide and Conquer, divide and conquer.
    there is some disinformation consultant in Langley right now grinning evilly over the success of  this campaign.
    “good… we got the right wingers out against the Jews and we got the hate speech lefties out against them too.”
    Orwell was right about the thought police.
    “Big brother” is controlling many minds, andcounting the money that their banks are “earning”. 

    • Anonymous

      very good.

  • Anonymous

    Where was the outrage when Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) Invoked The Holocaust To attack Republicans?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAQgL9sbrbA

    • Anonymous

      No, no – you don’t understand…it’s only objectionable when a Republican/Conservative speaks this way…and yet, there is no double standard in the liberal mind. 

  • Anonymous

    The real Gestapo in Maine is the Wind Cartel, as you know.As a Jew, I am not insulted by your comments Mr. Lepage at all.

    But reign in the Dept of Environnmental Destruction, and put a Moratorium on all Wind scamming and illegal Wind Projects  in Maine!

     They are killing this state, literally.

    They are the Gestapo, realtime.

    • Anonymous

      Until they’re knocking down doors and collecting humans for the purpose of genocide, they are not the Gestapo.

      • Anonymous

        your hate for Mr. LePage exceeds common sense…
        Mr LePage never ever said anything about genocide.. The people who work for the IRS were not mentioned, he spoke of the Federal Reserved owned US governement run agency called the IRS.

        I bet you didn’t know a private Bank owned the IRS.. and that the reason the government runs it is because it is exempt from normaly usery laws. 

        • Anonymous

          Yes, he did. The gestapo collected people for the purpose of genocide. So when LePage uses the word, he invokes what they did. He mentioned genocide. 

          This has nothing to do with hatred towards LePage. Keep trying to dismiss it as that all you want, but it doesn’t make it so.

  • Anonymous

    His original comment offended all Mainers and all true Americans.. it embarrased us  and once again made Maine  a national laughing stock .  My 90 y/o father(WWII) saw what  transpired with  the Hitler inspired gestapo.  He should resign and move to Argentina .

    • Anonymous

       Speak for yourself Chris Reid. My 92 year old father (WWII) saw what transpired also and has told me on numerous occasions that we are on the same road again with the creeping fascism. My dad was doing secret work while in the Navy, what was your dad doing?

      • Anonymous

        I think we agree.  My dad was an army  “grunt” who witnessed the results  of  the genoicidal atrocities and rarely speaks of  them other than to say …”Never Again “

  • This is nothing more than damage control, and it’s being done only because of the GOP’s almost fanatical need for the Adelson campaign contribution’s to the Romney campaign. Whether he likes it or not,  LePage’s comment is now dragging the entire GOP along for the ride. The Maine GOP is now, for better or worse, going to have the whole of the GOP dragged along with it from now until Election Day. And every time that LePage opens his mouth this comment is going to be ‘the comment’ that every statement he makes, from now on, he is going to measured by. Like it or not, the GOP, courtesy of the Tea Party Governor, is now in serious need of a new Candidate for the next Governor’s election ’cause LePage’s chance’s of getting re-elected are right up there with Charlie Webster’s being able to run a responsible Caucus. And I just can’t wait to see the reception LePage is gonna get the next time he heads south for his Florida home. Given Florida’s demographic’s, this is one reception that’s gonna make the evening news no matter where you are !    

  • Anonymous

    I have had a few friends in the past with the tatoo on their arms…
    They went to the camps peacefully… The truth was hidden from them… If they would have known what their government was doing to their people they would have fought to their deaths from home… They would not have choosen to die at the camps…
    Governments don’t express their plans in the open.

    • Anonymous

      The IRS isn’t coming to your home to collect you for the purpose of genocide because you decided to engage in tax evasion. Get a grip.

      • Anonymous

        Why in the last 6 years have they built hundreds of fema camps in the USA?  With Razor wire.. Who is the enemy??? You using genocide makes you sound like a tinfoil hat wearer… Our government has way to much power over us… hundreds of drones will spy on us soon enough..  It is not a twin to Germany, it will be worst. 

        • Anonymous

          I’m not the one who used genocide. That’s what the gestapo did, so you should aim that tin foil comment at LePage and yourself.

        • Anonymous

          Perhaps that is part of the New World or One World Order plans.  You know, the one who Soros works for and would have us all as slaves.  

  • Anonymous

    Note – to LePage and the extreme right; all of this Gestapo and Hitler nonsense are historically instruments of the Extreme Right not the left and as “per usual” LePage and the extreme right have their imaging extremly wrong.

  • Anonymous

    The IRS will make sure you pay for healthcare.

    THE IRS IS OWNED BY A PRIVATE BANK CALLED THE FEDERAL RESERVE,
    THE GOVERNMENT RUNS THIS COLLECTION AGENCY FOR A PRIVATE BANK.
    AT THE GOVERNMENTS EXPENSE.  ALL RUN OUT OF THE CITY OF LONDON, THEY ARE TRYING THE SAME THING WITH THE EURO.. THEY WANTED TO MAKE MEXICO,USA AND CANADA  HAVE ONE MONEY CALLED THE AMERO… THESE PEOPLE (PRIVATE bANK) WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO OWN ALL THE WEATH IN THE WORLD..
    THE HEALTH CARE BILL WAS ANOTHER WAY TO COLLECT MORE WEALTH.
    I hope you got it.

  • Jazz11

    This man when using the words he uses covers a wide spectrum of people that do not include just the Jews. During the Gestapo’s round-up, there were hundreds of thousands of gay men and women also subjected to their cruelty. There were Gypsies, and persons who’s diminished mental capacity also made them targets. This governor of ours spares few from his hate.

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