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  • Anonymous

    how about we just bring our medicaid system into line with the federal system and the averages of the other states in our country?
    instead of trying to blaze a bright new future of entitlement that we’re on the road to now thanks to our previous disasters.

    • Anonymous

      How about we save everyone some money while saving a great many lives too.  Support universal healthcare in America

      • Anonymous

        How about everyone, including the state legiscritters who get government supplied health insurance for a part time job, start having some real skin in the game and paying for coverage instead of crying that someone should provide it to them for free or nearly free? If even the drones have to pay for health insurance then everyone has an incentive for the cost to be kept in check. As it is now they couldn’t care less how much it costs the rest of us for insurance.

      • Anonymous

        Yes indeed, obamacare is such a great cost savings. The CBO says obamacare will increase the federal deficit only by a mere $1,131 billion over the next 10 years. Simply a drop in the bucket in the minds of the sycophants that support it. 
        obamacare is the straw that will break the financial back of this country.

        • Anonymous

          You should see what Bush spent on other countries and supporting foreign investment.

      • Anonymous

        Why not Free Food and Free housing for all as well?
        Are these items of less importance than medical care?

    • I vote against Pingree every time… there just aren’t enough of us to push her out.

      • Anonymous

        I am glad there are less people like you, if there were I would not be able to fish on Sunday.

    • ptkitty

      “Your title says that you are a Representative from Maine, but apparently you prefer to represent the power of bureaucrats in Washington, D.C.,” LePage wrote. 

      Chellie Pingree-Sussman ( D-Maine and Cayman Islands)  represents her own interests, her billionaire husband S. Donald Sussman’s interests., and the interests of the Cayman Islands where all his money is kept.

      Maine could absolutely NOT have a worse representative in Washington D.C. than a Liberal flatlander from Minnesota living on an island off the Maine Coast.

    • Anonymous

      Since when is healthcare an entitlement?

  • Anonymous

    Would someone print the real truth about this issue.  This article makes it sound like the state does not care about it’s medicaid or Mainecare program.  I thought i read somewhere that they were aligning this program with the federal standard.  I would like to see an article that shows the true pros and cons about this issue i am tired of reading he said she said.

    • Anonymous

      They were aligning it with the standards before Obama, Congress and Kathleen Seblieus went bonkers with their expansion of government and entitlements.  Maine can only afford what the state can pay why put them on a path total bankruptcy so people can get their freebies.  Let these folks buy insurance force these folks to get jobs make them become taxpayers and let them pay into the insurance system themselves.  But to put the state on a complete path to total bankruptcy  is ignorant.

  • Anonymous

    Pingree is another one of the lemmings who followed Pelosi off the cliff of ” we must pass it first to find out what is in it”.  Now it has come time to pay the piper and and all of Maine will suffer for her blind obedience.

  • Anonymous

    LePage is trying to balance the Maine budget with the Medicaid Funds of poor and sick Mainers. Does this really surprise anyone about this Tea Party Republican Freak. Flip the LIAR Romney will even be worse if he gets in.

    • Anonymous

      “poor sick mainers”
      sorry knightscross, no dice on that one.

      I personally know people that are on the “system” that go to the emergency room for a cold. seriously.
      they get admitted, get some over the counter drugs,or maybe even prescription drugs if they can convince the doc they “need it” and go home.
      they love the attention, and don’t have to pay a cent for it.

      I know of others that get free glasses even if they don’t need them. paid for by us.
      they specifically say “government glasses” because English isn’t their native language.
      (think lewiston)

      the system is grossly abused in this state, weather it be mainecare, food stamps, or other welfare programs.

      think of it this way:
      you have a system set up that can support a maximum of 100,000 people based on the budget.
      well, more people come in, and more and more, and then those people start having kids they can’t afford, so there’s even more people on the system.

      eventually the number of people on the system exceeds the funds appropriated to the system. 

      and that’s where we’re at now.

      • Anonymous

        Happens all the time!  And they don’t just go to the ER by car but they call for the ambulance! Yes for the common cold.

      • I want to know where you get FREE GLASSES

      • Anonymous

        Keep voting GOP and see how much worse it gets.

  • Anonymous

    LePage wasted lotsa money fighting the ACA in court  – now he is going to waste more of our hard earned on this stupid ideological stunt.

    He will lose this fight too.

    Yessah

    • Anonymous

      Read carefully… It’s the United  “STATES” of America… not the America of states… States have a constitution right to do as they please.. The federal court over stepped their boundries.

      • Anonymous

        Oh please.

        Read the Constitution for crying out loud.

        Sates are not allowed to do entirely what they please in the United States of America.

        Care to discuss Slavery and Jim Crow and Separate But Equal and Universal Suffrage and the Clean Air and Water Acts?

        Didn’t think so.

        Yessah

        • Anonymous

          Ahh but yes they can.. The States only allow the Federal Government to tell them what to do..

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for your legal opinion Justice Footinyourbackside. Would you care to cite the case(s) you are relying upon for your conclusion?

        • I D Durkin

          Agree with you.  Just another tea party crying foul,  having a hard time in real time.

        • Anonymous

          Well if you and the others want to pay for this medicaid expansion send all of your money right over to Maine Revenue Service.  You along with the rest of the Liberals and the Bums can pay for it. But the rest of us want no part of it. Why should we fund this massive entitlement boondoggle.  Why should we put ourselves into bankruptcy to pay for something that doesn’t work.  Do you want to put our state on the verge of bankruptcy .  In this economic times when you have 28 cities and towns in Pennsylvania declaring economic hardships and you have towns/cities Stockton, Vallaejo, Mammoth Valley in California declaring bankruptcy.  That is why this law will die just like Dirigo did here in Maine. Nobody can afford it.  You have folks on the verge of bankruptcy themselves and cities/towns across the country in bad shape.  Just because the lazy folks want everything handed to them get a job.  These folks should be paying for this if they want it.

  • Guest

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    • Anonymous

      who is going to pay for it all???? You!!!

      • Guest

        ….

  • Anonymous

    LePage wasted $0.00 in the ACA fight and yes….the cuts are closer to aligning with federal guidlines but are, in a couple of cases, still a bit higher…..

    I guess we have a choice folks…roll back a little….or collapse the whole system…you choose.

    • Anonymous

      not much common sense left… my bet is on a monentary collapse.. would you buy a US treasury bond knowing Obama can settle it for 20 cents on the dollar like he did with GM bond holders. 

    • Guest

      I look forward to the collapse and I’ll tell you that it won’t.

  • Anonymous

    Oh but I thought the wonderful healthcare bill was going to solve all these problems!  

    • Anonymous

      When LePage sets up the Insurance Exchanges and accepts 100% Medicaid funding for the 3 years starting in 2014 – everything will be fine.

      LePage is the one causing problems.

      Yessah

      • Anonymous

        RIIIIGHT, you keep telling yourself that! You are a true liberal Moon Bat!

        • Anonymous

          LOL! 

          Yes I am – and damned proud of it.

          Obama 2012.

          You Go Chellie!

          Yessah

          • Anonymous

            You won’t be saying that when your taxes skyrocket!  That’s if you even pay taxes!

          • Anonymous

            Rmoney pays only 13.8% of his $42 million dollar income in taxes.

            What do you pay?

          • Anonymous

            Don’t really care at this point.  I pay them.  If you think raising taxes on the rich is the answer then I suspect you might want to move to Canada!

          • Guest

            ……

          • Anonymous

            If you pay more percentage of your income than millionaire Rmoney – why do you put up with that?

            Clue – the GOP wants to eliminate capital gains taxes altogether so Rmoney and his millionaire buddies can hide more of their ill-gotten loot in Swiss Bank accounts and other Richey Rich hidey holes.

            Also – I have lived and worked in Canada and I can say without reservation that Health Canada is far more efficient, effective and cheaper than the US system – even with Obamacare.

            And yes, I support Single Payer in the US.

            Yessah.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see her suggesting a way to pay to maintain these standards? MMMM sheis  a democrat we can just raise taxes.  Health care sucks up such a large part of the budge that  to balance the overall budget you must cut there too. I guess we could close  the rest of the state departments and give it all to DHS.  Not even sure that would cover that   money pit.  When 50 percent of the population pays for the rest of the state to get free everything things have to stop.

  • Anonymous

    Pegree and Obama are a pair of shoes. she knew what Obama did long ago.
    But now it’s election time!!!
    Her health care is paid for by you!!!!!
    You people have short memories.. OBAMA CUT THE FUNDING.  and your trying to to blame Mr. LePage for something he has no control over.

    • Anonymous

      Obamacare will pay 100% of the cost of Medicaid to the state for three years and 90% of the cost starting in 2020.

      Please try to keep up.

      Yessah

      • Anonymous

        Yessah….and by the time it comes around your grandchildren will be paying the entire cost. Mandated health insurance is going to end up the same way as mandated special education. The government suckers us all in by promising to pay the bill and then once we’ve eaten the apple saddles us with covering the entire cost.

        If Pengree is so worried about the poor and elderly keeping their health insurance, why doesn’t she get that rich boyfriend of hers to cough up the money to pay for it. After all, isn’t she one of Obama’s disciples who believes that the rich should pay more!

        Please try to keep up!!!!

        • Anonymous

          Bill Clinton left George W. Bush the best economy of my lifetime,  low unemployment and record budget surpluses.

          George W. Bush took those surpluses and transformed them into record deficits with his unfunded billionaire tax cuts, unfunded War of Lies in Iraq and unfunded Medicare Part D.

          Bush et al. told everyone to buy a big house on an ARM (or worse) and looked the other way as financial institutions played trillion dollar casino gambling with credit default swaps,  derivatives, naked short selling and subprime loans.

          Bush was caught flat footed when the financial crisis struck and left President Obama with an economy crashing at -8.9% per quarter *and accelerating* and job losses greater than 800,000 a month *and accelerating*.

          Obama and the Democratic Party once again saved the nation from economic collapse – and was opposed at every turn by the GOP.

          And yes, the rich should pay more – that was the key to Clinton’s boom economy

          FYI

          Yessah

          • Anonymous

            When are you people going to stop blaming Bush. In case you can’t count, it’s been 3 1/2 year since Bush left office.

             “Obama and the Democratic Party once again saved the nation from economic collapse – and was opposed at every turn by the GOP.” Really dude, you’ve got to stop drinking the cool-aid. Last month almost as many people were added to the roles of SSI as there were that got a job. Obama must be so proud of that.

            The housing collapse was due to Barney Frank and his Democratic partners passing legislation giving Fammy Mae and Freddie Mac the authority to give countless loans to people who had absolutely no ability to repay them.

            By the way, if we give Obama 4 more years do you think he and his buddy Reid might be able to pass a budget?

          • Anonymous

            When the Bushbots own up to their utter failures.

            Yessah

          • If Barry get re-annointed he will blame his predecessor for his problems and that won’t be Mr. Bush this time.

          • If they get help from the NO PEOPLE OH that right the [r] won’t be around

          • Mountain Man!

            Take a Freefall off the top of your Mountain and then climb back up with people at the top rolling bolders down at you and then tell me why YOU are still at the bottom 4 years later!

            Gravity ——10 seconds down 4 years back up!

          • If you only listen to one side yu will be one sideded.

                As for Barney Franks responibility for it all he is  just a right wing scape goat. There where MANY others reponsible in lobbying Freddie and Fannie Mae. Both sides took money for their Campaigns from Fannie and Freddie Bank lobbys.

            Look up Rick Santorum’s Role in the Finance committee !

            look up filibusters and What George Bush wanted to do with those two Government Banking Agenies!

            He wanted to Give Full control of them to the Federal Reserve Treasury.

            It’s alot more complicted then ——-Barney Did It!

      • Anonymous

        And who’s paying for Obama care? The working middle class .

    • Guest

      your absolutely correct

    • Why doesn’t LaPage and his people pay for their insurence  It would help save some money

  • dee

    thankyou chelli

  • Anonymous

    You can not and never will have a surplus with a liberal in charge..
    Before Mr. LePage came into office the liberals would scurry like rats to spend an extra dime.. I remember it clearly.

    • Anonymous

      You forget that under liberal Bill Clinton, the federal government ran record surpluses and was on track to pay off the entire national debt.

      It was conservative president George W. Bush and the conservative GOP that took us from record surpluses to record debt within a year.

      Please try to keep up.

      Yessah

      • Anonymous

        Bill Clinton sure did!  Cut the military by a third, have a huge DotCom bubble and the beginnings of a housing bubble, and you can do the same thing.

        Now, did W squander that after 9/11…most definitely.

        • Anonymous

          The Housing Bubble burst under Bush.

          The DotCom bubble did not result in a financial crisis that threw millions out of work.

          Bush did not do a thing to prevent it and was caught flat footed – just like he was on September 11, 2001.

          • Anonymous

            Just like Bill Clinton and Barney Frank allowed people who work with minimal salaries take on over 300,000 dollar mortgages!  What a genius plan.  You ought to be ashamed or yourself!

          • Guest

            Big business banks did that because they were deregulated and COULD.

          • Anonymous

            No – that would be Bush and Alan Greenspan.

            Yessah

          • I D Durkin

            Bill had one of the biggest era in economic expansion ever.  Clean and Sweet, then came little Bush and made it go away…..  Unless you put all your chips on defense contractors or big oil
            (takes a lot of oil to run a war).  Gee wasn’t Bush in oil ?    some else too !

          • Anonymous

            You’re often pretty close to the mark, but not quite here.  Greenspan yes, Bush hardly.

          • Anonymous

            Not sure what the first two have to do with my comment.  I was saying that Bill Clinton didn’t exactly pull a rabbit out his hat by “balancing” the budget.

            And if we want to talk about which president had a chance to deal with Al Qaeda and didn’t, W runs a distant second.

    • Guest

      Bill Clinton’s presidency produced a surplus that GW squandered.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see her donating her re-election war chest to cover the shortfall.. she wants some else to pay for it.   just imagine the news coverage of a actual politician making a cash donation to help the states most needy…. *snork*  -ahem sorry I was daydreaming again. 

  • From the Governor’s Office:

    Historically, Maine’s delegation has worked with the State on behalf of Mainers. Congresswoman Pingree has made it crystal clear that she’s siding with the Obama Administration over the people of Maine. She is ignoring the will of the Maine Legislature and putting her ideological views ahead of the Maine people.

    Unlike Congress, Maine must balance its budget and all the Congresswoman has done is made it harder for our state to be fiscally responsible. She’s part of big bloated government that hiked the debt ceiling to $16.4 trillion and is now saying that Maine should be forced to increase the burden to the taxpayers she claims to represent.

    • Anonymous

      The Teahadists in the Maine legislature cut taxes for the wealthiest Mainers at the expense of **working** Mainers that could not afford health insurance.

      This was a completely manufactured ideologically-driven faux  “fiscal crisis”.

      The funny thing is, the GOP believes its own Fairy Tales and expect everyone else to do the same.

      Most of us, however, know better.

      We also know that LePage is a stooge of the unelected unaccountable Maine Heritage Policy Center – and does not give a sweet cheery about the People of Maine.

      Yessah.

      • jimbobhol

        Do you bathe in koolaide?

  • Guest

    Most of the country does “not” support ObamaCare, and many intend to give Obama, Princess Pingree & Media Mike the finger, and say Make Me….!

    ObamaCare, outside of being unconstitutional, is directly in opposition to the Catholic faith;
    hence millions should be free to opt-out under religious objections. I haven’t heard Pingree, Michaud, or anyone from the executive branch address those with religious objections to ObamaCare, or those that live off-the-land, off-the-grid, agrarian types of people. Many live in rural places, off the beaten-path, that do pay taxes on many things, but also survive by conducting a lot of business in barter, they and many more, would be rocketed into a deep financial chasm. Those people are joined by a very large, and growing, part of the American populace that “in no way” can afford another bill.

    The Religious Freedom Restoration Act or RFRA of 1993 aimed at preventing laws that substantially burden a person’s free exercise of their religion, which includes “any” federal mandates. SCOTUS has directly subverted the Constitution itself, and has put our country on a direct course of national instability.

    I am willing to bet that the crafters of this unconstitutional abomination never took the above mentioned groups and others into consideration, or the massive social and religious boundaries it intends to cross.

    And just who decides the cost, what income pays what, the federal government?

    Many, who can’t afford to get saddled with one more bill, will lose much, and many are more than willing to say go get bent…!

    • Anonymous

      The SCOTUS sez it’s constitutional – end of story.

      Wagon Riders abuse the health care system and raise insurance premiums.

      Please try to keep up.

      Yessah

      • Guest

        Yeah right, we’ll see just how long, who supports what, & who attempts to enforce it….

        This “is” a decisive and possible volatile chapter in American history, if you think not, you have to only look around the world and see why governments are melting down and why the people taking charge…!

      • Anonymous

        And god knows they have never made a mistake before! It’s called Justice Roberts was trying to save his own skin!

  • beangood

    “Improper payments alone cost $22 billion for the federal share last year in the Medicaid program and for Medicare the tab was $43 billion.”
    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/08/politics/delegation-blasts-lack-of-cooperation-by-medicaid-medicare/ 

  • Anonymous

    If she sold some of her land holdings and her millionair husband and gave the fundas to thestate as an endowment for medicade we would have suffucient monies to do the job with out taxes!!

    • Anonymous

      They should fully fund public education from what I see here.

      LOL!

  • I D Durkin

    Your answer smells of nonsense.  Bill did do that, that was the era of real growth  and prosperity.

    NASDAQ WENT THROUGH THE ROOF! NO BANKING PROBLEMS ETHER !

  • Anonymous

    I feel for seniors who paid the community rating to get screwed in old age, with the loss of community rating.  On the other hand, is he planning on cutting medicaid to those seniors who are well off compared to the poor?  People who have decent retirements have Medicaid.  I thought we were to mutually pledge our fortunes?  Granted some are taking in their children who are not covered by anything.  I guess Obama doesn’t care enough?

    Those lower middle class, above 100% poverty rating?  Well, that means they have a job with income and I would think they should be under the Obama care rule, so their employer would have to offer health insurance or pay additional “taxes,” which congress approved, so they can be covered……….. I hardly see where that is Medicaid?

    The disabled are disabled. They could use the assistance.

    The Declaration of Independence states we wanted to separate from England since they “imposed taxes On us without our consent,” but in this case congress had passed the affordable health care act; therefore, consenting to the tax, but federal government can only regulate interstate or international commerce. Anything in the state is up to the state, so the state does and should hold power for insurance and medical care within the state itself. If everything comes from the state and does not leave the state. That is the tricky part…….

  • Anonymous

    Pingree and Forklift Mike should have held out for a special deal like The Louisana Purchase or the Cornhusker Kickback or the deals the unions got or got exempted altogether like the Congress and President…

  • Governor LePage practices double-speak in the tradition of George Orwell.  He accuses Chellie Pingree of putting her ideological views ahead of the people of Maine, implying that he puts Maine people ahead of ideology.  At the same time he is cutting Medicaid benefits for those same Maine people, and why?  Ideology?  Governor LePage shows the same logic as expressed in the famous quote from the Vietnam era, “We had to destroy the village to save it.”

  • Anonymous

    This issue isnt about what George W or Clinton did or didnt do……its about Paulie outright BREAKING federal law and tightening Mainecare guide lines. The law says that no state has to EXPAND their Medicade enrollment , HOWEVER no state can shrink or tighten existing guidelines. And even now Paulie and his fools are saying “We are going to do it anyway ” And then the feds AND the people that were taken off of Mainecare illegally are going to break it off in our back sides. Paulie is going to cost this fine state WAY more money than he saves us. And if he is saving us from ourselves…….who is going to save us from him ?

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