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  • Anonymous

    Why are we building  River Walks and renovating parking lots when we have thousands of miles of roads that are in DESPERATE need of repair??? I know some don’t like the rough, gruff way of the Governor, but he was elected to do the “dirty work” that no one else wanted to, or had the backbone to do. 

    • Anonymous

      I wished he used that so called” backbone” when it  came time for him to serve his country, instead he fled to Canada, I call that being YELLA !!

      • Anonymous

        Your pointless, false drivel does not deserve a response.

        • Anonymous

          Can you prove me wrong ? Ask your hero why he fled when it came time to fight, I know many that disagreed with the war, but still put on the uniform and fought..

          • Anonymous

             Innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof lies with you.

          • Anonymous

            Where would you like me to send the papers proving my post, it’s all there, just have to do a little research.

          • LePage’s draft number was so high (342) he never would have been called up. I am hardly a LePage supporter.

            http://thephoenix.com/Boston/news/132743-making-of-paul-lepage-part-2/

          • Tyke

            Doesn’t matter. He has claimed he supported that war. If he did, then why did he let someone else go serve in his place? Just because there was a draft doesn’t mean he couldn’t voluteer. I knew plenty of  guys who did.

          • Anonymous

            What does this have to do with the article.  The Liberals should get 100% of the blame because they took Bond money, Stimulus Bucks,  DOT Highway Money from the budget and blew it.  They blew it on Massive WELFARE Expansion, Laptops, Dirigo and Land Buys for Enviros and other nonsense that did nothing.  It didn’t create 1 single job it created huge deficits and has been a drag on our state and the economy.  Liberals always have to resort to personal attacks, cheap shots etc..  Becuase  they have no record to stand on.

          • Anonymous

            I have a record, and would be happy to send it to you, it’s called a DD-214, by the way  I am not a liberal, registered republican.

        • Anonymous

          “Your pointless, false drivel does not deserve a response.”

          So would calling him the bond Gestapo be appropriate to do , in your opinion,
          or get another response  ?   

          I’m just askin’.

        • Anonymous

          And yet you provided one. BTW, the statement is not false, LePage went to Canada at the time that he was eligible for the draft. Like the vast majority of the chicken hawks in the TeaPublican party, they have a litany of “good” excuses to justify why they DIDN’T SERVE, yet are very quick to send other people’s children off to do a job they thought they, themselves, were too good or important (or just plain “chicken” ) to do.

      • Anonymous

        Or when he required affirmative action in order to get into college.  This chucklehead couldn’t take the SAT’s in English, so he had to have them translated into French.  Now he spends his days railing against people who ‘use the system’.

        • Anonymous

          The most interesting aspect of this part of LePage’s story is that his education was in the Catholic schools of Lewiston and they FAILED to prepare him for the real world, yet he wants to allow PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS to be funnelled to the same Catholic schools. And he wants to point the finger of blame at the teachers in public education while perfectly demonstrating that he, himself, MADE NO INVESTMENT OF EFFORT in his own eduation.

    • Anonymous

      You must have voted against these bond proposals?  Against the wishes of the majority of taxpayers,  you got your way.  Yes,  our governor is a “dirty worker”….

      • Anonymous

         Yes, I did vote against them. There are other priorities that must be taken care of before these bond items. I’m not saying they are not worthy causes in their own right, however, when the state is already in debt to our great grandchildren, we need to prioritize our spending a little better. If you struggle to put food on the table, would you spend money on a vacation to Hawaii?? 

        • Anonymous

          I do struggle and I work on my home during vacations.  But right now is the time to refinance.  The interest rates for those bonds right now are low.  We don’t know what they will be worth 2 years from now. We said yes.  The interest on those loans may be doubled when the governor decides to sign them. And the private investers,  they may invest elsewhere.

          • Anonymous

             If it was a bond for major infrastructure that the state so desperately needs, I would agree 100% with your reasoning. But for these items that benefit such a small minority of people, it just doesn’t make fiscal sense.

          • Anonymous

            I can agree with you as well,  but the fact remains,  a majority of the voters approved this.  Now it comes down to two signatures,  and the governor refuses to sign.  It’s not so much as to where the loans are going, as to our elected officials not doing our bidding.  They are running amok,  trying to convince us it’s for our good.  I like to think we know what we would like and what we need.  Even if we are wrong,  should it not be the majority decision?

          •  Interestingly you both have more intelligent responses and approaches than the Governor on this issue.

          • Anonymous

            But the majority decided that this minority should get them.  Kind of like maintaining a road that has only a couple of houses on it.  We do it because we are a community.

          • Anonymous

            Towns like Unity are becoming ‘hub’ towns and are starting to produce jobs to the locality. It’s also a fairly liberal town….wonder if that has anything to do with the Governor’s bully tactics?

          • Anonymous

            Hint- the STATE IS NOT IN DEBT TO OUR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN. The state constitution REQUIRES that the budget be BALANCED EVERY YEAR and it has been? Have there been accounting tricks used? Of course. Jocko stole money, which has yet to be replaced, from the state retirement system to balance the budget. For almost 60 years the STATE FAILED to pay it’s share into the retirement fund in order to balance the budget by not passing a tax increase to do so. In two-years’ time, not only is it most likely that the interest rates on the bonds that the state will have to pay will increase significantly but so will the cost of every aspects of the jobs they were to fund. That’s called penny wise and pound foolish.

        •  I agree with you that we should not borrow money for current expenses ,even something as fun as vacation to Hawaii.  That is why Maine constitution wisely limits borrowing to capital expenditures, like borrowing to install a new furnace in your house.  The Governor’ blanket statement of no more borrowing until the legislature does what he wants is no more sensible than saying no borrowing to fix the roof until your spouse cuts back on the phone bill.  The two are separate.  A reasonable person cuts back on the phone bill and borrows money to fix the roof.  I believe every bond question should have a financial return analysis attached to it that showed what economic benefit it would have to the state over time.  That way voters could make an informed decision as to whether the proposed investment in our state is worth it rather than just a knee jerk response for or against bonds.

        • Anonymous

          Once again..If our State is so far in debt, then how can they justify a tax cut for the rich?

    • Anonymous

      He is not selling the road bonds either.  So much for a gov’t of, by and for the people.  This guy is unbelieveable!

    •  I guess it was because the people of Maine approved these projects and we are a country where ultimately the people get to decide.  I personally don’t agree that some of these projects are needed but i don’t get to put my judgement above the judgement of the electorate.  By the way I would appreciate if more if the Governor was doing the hard work of actually making sure our infrastructure was fixed and support for job development was done rather than the posturing we see right now.

    • Anonymous

      He won the election by the people, same as the grants were voted in by the people.  Why..because the roads grants are also put up for approval by vote of the people.  If they passed..then the  money would flow.  Unless of course if our Govenor decided to freeze them.  But he would rather freeze this sort of high focus grant for the frustration level.   Our government belongs to all of us, not just the Americans doing well financially.  It also belongs to those who receive section 8, and welfare recipiants.. homeless,  unemployed, and those who are ill and unable to work.  Section 8 primarily is used by women and children who’s fathers do not support the children,  and the low income  elderly.   Maine’s major industry now is tourism.  You asked why.   That’s why. 

      • Anonymous

        actually, the bond issues won with a larger percentage of the vote than did the Gov…. I do wish he would remember that.

      • Anonymous

        this is an ugly truth…..

    • Anonymous

      Dude — V A C A T I O N  L A N D  — scenic place — rich people come here and spend their money….they need to be able to park the Mercedes and walk along the water…otherwise we are just like everywhere else.  

    • Odalisque

      I agree that there are roads that are in need of repair, but I also think that bonds for redevelopment are essential, especially since the governor’s policies have produced few jobs in the state. And, with his particular lack of imagination, I think things will be worse before they get better.

      The reason that riverwalks are built and parking lots are repaired is quite simply that it is good for business.  Riverwalks  are built  because they make a town or city a place where people might actually want to visit, spend some time, and in doing so spend some money, which is all good for the local economy.  I know people who will pick a particular spot to vacation so they can ride their bikes on a river walk or mountain trail. My daughter chooses places where she and her son can kayak and ride their bikes. While they are there, they rent rooms in motels or hotels; purchase food in local restaurants; go to local clubs or theaters for evening entertainment; and maybe even buy some things in local shops. This is how the economy works – one thing leads to another. It is especially pertinent to have this type of thing in Maine which is reliant to a great degree on tourism. River walks are also very nice for local residents to get exercise and walk in a pleasant area with a view.  Don’t knock them. I have lived where there are river walks and they are a very pleasant place to walk; think; watch birds and animals; people watch;  and enjoy the outdoors by yourself or with a friend or lover.

      I find it odd that the  governor  seemed to think spending $300,000 on another study for a private business’s profit of an east-west highway which may or may not be built and which may or may not provide revenue to the state was beneficial to state taxpayers – oops Cianbro, so that is okay with him. Meanwhile, cities and towns that have actual projects ready to work on that will provide jobs and then revenue in the near future to these towns are left begging. Note, the bond issues were passed by state voters and they require matching funds available from private sources for all of the projects mentioned – which they had to the tune of $11 million.  The governor also vetoed a $20 million bond on research and development which is another example of his  penny wise and pound foolish decision making process. Even his rationale for refusing to allow the bond to go through was pretty dim from someone who claims to be a businessman.

      You may be proud of the man, but the state is already paying a  price for  his intransigence, his ignorance, his offensive speech, his boorish manners, and most importantly for his lack of imagination. As a result, we will find ourselves without a stake in research and development from businesses and universities – those projects and the jobs they will produce will go where there is more foresight; we will find ourselves behind-hand when 2013 rolls around and we have no health insurance exchanges, while more forward looking states will be ready to roll and their citizens will have the advantage of exchanges ready to help them find appropriate health insurance; we have already found ourselves a laughing stock  – repeatedly – for the governor’s particular form of foot in mouth disease; we have lost jobs and not found enough to replace those lost; and even more people will now find themselves without work as a result of the decision to not fund the grants.

  • Guest

    If they’re confused they must be democrats.  Ho Ho Ho.

    • Anonymous

      If who is confused by Big Government interference screwing up planned projects that support our tourist industry ?

      • Guest

        Wasn’t it Ted Nugent who said something nasty about Obama about a month ago?

  • Anonymous

    “Eleven communities were notified in September 2011 that they had been awarded grants totaling $3.5 million that were to be matched by private investment of more than $11 million for downtown redevelopment. ”

    So much for creating a stable business climate without Big Government interference , Guv. 

    There is $14.5 million in investments with $11 million being private sector investments 
    that is not going into creating any new  jobs this summer or fall , right ?  
    Nice work.

    Thinking people understand why your people can’t  afford any signs of economic improvements, politically, but is Maine really still open for business 
    or just for petty political gamesmanship , now  ?

    • Anonymous

      It’s important to understand that if you vote for a Republican this November, you are sending someone to Augusta to support this knucklehead.

    • honey777

      Frankly, it’s blackmail.  Until he gets what he wants, LePage will withhold money already approved by voters or allocated by the federal government.  The legislature needs to severely limit a governor’s power.

      • Which is exactly why the Legislature needs to start now to draft the needed legislation to get these funds moving come next Session, regardless of Paulie and Company’s temper tantrum’s. And it shouldn’t matter if Paulie’s ‘crew’ throws a ‘chicken-fit’. He did so last year and we all saw what happened. The Legislature saw where Paulie was taking the State, and the risks he was exposing us all to, with his ‘Simon say’s nonsense, came together to say “NO !” and promptly overode his veto by almost unanimous vote and then publicly dared him to come out and explain what he thought he was doing to the citizen’s. What did Paulie do ? He hid out in Blaine House and kept his trap shut ! Where was his ‘crew’ ? No where in Maine to be found, that’s for sure ! Even his Press Secretary was no where to be found, knowing what a ‘dog’ the subject was. Adrienne may not be the sharpest knife in the rack at times but even she knows you can’t cut squat with a butter knife.

        But the more important issue is now where is all of that directed Federal money gonna go until the Maine Legislature gets the ‘legal’s’ done to get it moving again ? Human nature being what it is, and politician’s of any position looking to make ‘Brownie point’s’, this might be the right time to transfer whatever money’s are here already, pending their legal release for use, to an account in the State Treasurer’s office, releaseable only under OPEGA authority. It’s time to put some moral and ethical integrity back into the Maine Government and start following both the U.S. Constitution (Due Process), and the Bible, that being “Do everything decently and in order” (Apologies, I’m not up on my exact verse right now.) . Given the mess things are right now, it’s not such a bad idea, now is it ?

        • I D Durkin

          the puppet and the many stings, a new day and a new dance

      • Anonymous

        What the heck is the sense of even having a Governor if the Legislature is going to do whatever the heck they want.  If your going to spend to oblivion and bankrupt the state no sense even doing what the folks have been crying for 30 years.  That is cutting spending, and entitlements have a Government that folks can afford and have the private sector grow jobs and fix our decaying roads  and building new and better roads here in Maine.

        • Anonymous

          Looks like you have the wrong definition, DC  You are thinking Dictator, not Governor.  These bonds were already approved by due process.  also, that’s what bonds are for..improving roads and repairing the infrastructure.  No charge for the civil lesson.

    • I D Durkin

      Squeezing  the life line of the common people, for what ?
      It really sounds like another republican “job killing scheme“, they keep making it so obvious.
      The money just keeps moving to the right, if you know what I mean.
      Please get out and vote, and get other people to vote too. Remember one person one Vote, they don‘t get any more you don’t loose it.

  • Anonymous

    Being a LePage apologist must be a full time job. That must be what he meant when he said he could create JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.

    • Anonymous

      You misunderstood our fair governor. When he said he would create jobs, jobs, jobs he was being literal. He really said job, job, job. As in three total. His own, his daughter’s and his brother-in-law’s. Its all of us who were mistaken by what he said.

      • Anonymous

        Only the  “unregular people”,  as Mr.Webster calls us.

      • Anonymous

        It is not nor has it ever been the government’s duty to CREATE jobs! The government can get out of the way and let business grow or as has occurred in Maine over the past 40 years pile more taxes, fees and rules, regulations on them and restrict growth or force them to leave the state all together.

        • It has often fallen to the government to create jobs.  The prime example would be the Great Depression.  Of course, that was before most of us were around, but all of us of voting age recall the Great Recession of 2008.  That pretty nearly became the Great Depression II. 

          Government can and must do what we can not do for ourselves.  I-95 seems to have been a pretty good idea.  We all benefit from its existence, but it wasn’t built by McDonalds.  

          • Anonymous

            You are absolutely correct, however I-95 helps the vast majority of Mainers unlike the rejuvenation of a 14 story building that will help who, Section 8 rentals?  We have enough of those.   Building roads, bridges, and infrastructure should be the only thing that the government does for job creation.

          • Anonymous

            Where does it say they are section 8 rentals?  Downtown Rockland is getting to be a pretty swanky place lately.  what the article does say, however, is “MATCHED BY $3 MILLION IN PRIVATE INVESTMENT”.

          • Anonymous

            You can blame BUSH for the Great Recession almost a Bush Depression.

          • Anonymous

             “Government can and must do what we can not do for ourselves.”

            Thus lies the problem. The difference between what people CAN do and what they actually do are vastly different. Again it is not the gov’s job.

            Actually 1-95 was built via McDonalds along with every other TAXPAYER. I amount sure you realize that McDonalds owns it’s own fleet of trucks thus they pay road taxes that far far exceed those paid via other vehicles. Depending on routes and area a truck can pay over 100 grand a year.

            Last the rescission of 2008. Funny I was still in busniess at that time and I grew EVERY year from 2004 to 2010 when I sold it. To further confuse you I did it it all on my own without and government help. I even had a guy show up form the state of Maine telling me how they would give me a grant to “help” me with improvements I did not call them they just showed up. He was very confused when I said no thank you I do not need any help..

          • Anonymous

            Maine gun guy – what are you saying????? There hasn’t been a time in my life where the government actually came looking to give money unless someone was asking…. This is b.s.

          • Anonymous

             Then you have never owned a business. I had several of these folks show up. From energy efficiency to workplace safety. FYI they do not GIVE you money they spend tax dollars to make your place more energy efficient or maybe to help you hire those with special needs and so on. 

        • Anonymous

          Just like the government. “Got out of the way” when the deregulated, de-oversighted banking industry under Bush almost plunged us into a second depression? I’ve seen the work of deregulation without oversight. We need a layer of government enforcement to protect against abuse and fraud. If you think that it won’t happen without oversight you are naive.

        • Anonymous

          “It is not nor has it ever been the government’s duty to CREATE jobs!”
          Okay, even if you said it like a coded political slogan, with a hidden agenda , I get your point. 

          So naturally you must think it is the mythical “job creators” role. 
          Is that fair to assume ? 

          Okay, so with how many year of tax cuts for your mythical , wealthy, “job Creators” where are all those jobs ? 

          But more importantly, Gun -Guy, please tell us what it might take to get you to look at the record, and use it to prove both that if it is not Government job, Pres. Obama can’t be  held responsible for unemployment or a slow recovery …

          .. and/or  that the conservative policies of relying on the mythical “job creators” 
          and tax cuts for the wealthy clearly has not worked. 

          Good luck, with that, but please do consider it not me being difficult with you just for its own sake.
          Rather it is just the natural result of giving your conservative sloganeering all the due respect and serious consideration it could deserve in this important election year. 

          To long, too serious for here ? 
          Or for conservatives ? 
          So, sorry …. not ! 

          So, again;  please tell us what it might take to get you to look at the record, and use it to prove both that if it not Government job, Pres. Obama should not held responsible, and/or  that the conservative policies of relying on the mythical “job creators” and tax cuts for the wealthy have not worked. 

          • Anonymous

             Well you asked so here is what you want. Let us look right here at our own state of Maine. The liberal ruled for 40 plus years and in that time gov spending grew EVERY year to pay for that taxes fee’s license costs grew. Business after business left the state. Many right across a border. Meanwhile states with LESS gov involved have done far better.

            FYI I am for the PEOPLE not GOVERNMENT. Government is BY the people not over or for them. When the people can not do as regulations prevent it then I am opposed.

            I am also for self RESPONSIBILITY. IE You pay for your mistakes and you reap the rewards of YOUR success. 

            As for tax cuts you may want to look into what these really are. Much of this tax cut stuff is not what the majority of folks think it is. The cuts are on monies that tax has ALREADY been paid on. Kind of like Maine does to people who own a vehicle you pay tax every year even though you already paid it the year before. Well when you EARN a paycheck you pay a high tax rate. If you invest some of that money it is taxed again but at a lower rate. This is where the vast majority tax cuts for the rich are at.

        • Anonymous

          Taxes have been lower for 12 years and jobs have not been created.  Low taxes has nothing to do with creating jobs, even though the Republicans keep saying it does.  The only one that creates jobs is the consumer, the majority of which are middle class.  If one is in business, I was, and never did I nor anyone else I knew in business say gee if they would cut taxes I would hire more people.  One hires more people if their business is expanding and the current number of people can not handle the business.  If taxes are cut the owner or owners either get richer or they maybe think about getting a machine to take the place of workers.  The biggest problem for small business is getting financing, they need companies to believe in them and loan money for them to get into business and expand if necessary.
          They don’t need people with money putting their money into Switzerland, Cayman Island or Bermuda banks. They need Americans who believe in them and keep their money in America.  

    • Anonymous

      Really what has the Liberals been doing all of this time huh 4mermainer.  Where is all of the Jobs from those precious Democrats that you and others think walk on water.  Where is all of that bond money gone to,  Where is Obama’s Stimulus Bucks end up, why did they raid all of the DOT”s  Highway fund that could have created jobs.  Huh I will tell you where it ended up for your beloved precious WELFARE programs so you Liberals can have precious freebies can’t live without those Food Stamps, LIHEAP MONEY,  MaineCare, TANF bucks, Section 8/Free Rent and the Free Cell Phones you get from being on Welfare.  You can’t live without that stuff huh.  You Libs can’t live without you other pet projects that are unsuccessful like Laptops, Dirigo Health, Land Buys for the Enviros so they can have their little parks.  When Liberals can prove they can create jobs and stop buying votes they should go back into their little caves and be miserable.

      • Anonymous

        Do you realize that 40% of the Stimulus went for tax cuts for small businesses, another 30% went to states, towns and cities for teachers, firefighter etc. and the remaining 30% went to projects.  So you really should try to educate yourself before posting.

      • Anonymous

        AMEN…

  • Anonymous

    Would-be demigod (the Lord gives, the Lord takes away, cursed be the name of the Lord)

  • Anonymous

    LeObtuse does realize that running a state is slightly different than running Mardens……doesn’t he????  Maybe he should try the old K-Mart trick- where people enter Maine and it says ‘Open for business’  he can also put a blue light- for all the ‘blue light specials’ we don’t have here.  

  • Anonymous

    Can we put a freeze on our elected officials vacation/lifetime health/pension pay? 

    • Anonymous

      Good idea. Perhaps the conservatives who loathe the notion of helping to pay for others’ health insurance will finally weary of paying for health insurance for Mr. LePage, whose eating and exercise habits are creating one double chin after another, onward and downward toward his ankles.

      • Anonymous

        Nice attack on LePage weight.  These personal attacks coming from Liberals are ignorant. Considering their  “hero” Baldy broke his ribs  several times while in office,  injured his ankle falling down a couple of times, got in a huge car accident by having his State Police escort driving wrecklessly on I-295 (section was I-95 at the time) hitting cars in icy conditions and then having his SUV flip over at high speed on awful road conditions.  So please stop with the attacks we didn’t attack Baldy when he kept injuring himself.  Infact Republicans, Greens and Independents felt sorry for the guy and sent him get well gifts and visited him to see how he was doing. If Liberals like yourself want to keep attacking LePage expect us to attack Baldy, King and the rest of the Democrats because we have enough issues and items we can attack them on.

      • Anonymous

         Really. Health care? Fine then answer me one thing. Why does Omama’s plan not include him and the rest of higher gov?

        Like always liberals when left to the facts resort to name calling.

        • Anonymous

          Conservatives are generally quite vocal against paying for the healthcare of anyone who receives government money while taking very poor care of their health. Yet somehow they seem unconcerned about paying for LePage’s health insurance, though our tax money pays his salary and he clearly eats way too much and gets far too little exercise.

          I myself don’t mind paying for the health insurance for any elected official. I do agree that all public officials’ benefits package should be the same as the general public’s.

          Thus, every Senator and Representative in Washington and the states, the President, Vice President, and all governors and judges and so on, should get NO pension except for Social Security, and NO health insurance apart from either 1) whatever they can pay for out-of-pocket OR 2) either the ACA or a national single-payer health insurance.

          You may have noticed that Republican leaders’ plans to slash Social Security benefits for current and future elders do not mention any corresponding drop in their own pensions… And Republican leaders who believe that the nation’s budget should be balanced by denying health insurance to desperately poor people don’t seem eager to do without taxpayer-paid health insurance themselves…

          • Anonymous

             I am against anybody getting anything they did not earn for themselves when financed by taking what those who work EARN.  Health care, food, housing, cell phones property tax forgiven and so on.

            I would like to see SS ended as well as all these gov programs. You earn money you are responsible for using it to to care for your life. Notice the slope we had slid down once the gov got involved in this area of our lives.

    •  I agree with you on this one.  The intent of a citizen legislature was for regular citizens to take time off from their regular careers to provide temporary service not make a career.  I believe it is fair they be paid for this service while in office and provided health care but the idea of retirement benefits for legislators and Governor etc. is completely against the intent of the founders.  I would apply the same to the congress and president.  I believe that would in fact be more effective than unconstitutional term limits.

      • Anonymous

        How about tying the wage of legislators and the governor to the median wage in Maine?  Might get some meaningful economic activity then.

  • Anonymous

    Many of the community officials who are scratching their heads about LePage’s decision are surely Republicans.

    Republicans are always confident that their misguided austerity policies will only hurt OTHER people in OTHER places.

  • The Lepage Jobs Plan.

    Freeze All Economic Activity

    Brilliant!

  • Vigue surely got “HIS” money for his highway study, whats up with that?

    Crony, Capitalism?

    • Anonymous

      How is all those Welfare Expansion, Laptops , Dirigo Health, Land Buys for enviros, working for you.  How is that Grow Smart Maine and Brookings Report working for you.  What a waste of our tax dollars that has done nothing for this state. Our Economy is dead last.  Our Schools are failing miserably the national ranking is 27th and dropping. Our roads and bridges are pathetic you can’t go 50 feet without hitting huge potholes, cracks etc. and doing damage to your car.  With no EAST-WEST highways either.  So the Liberals need to put down the kool-aid and start explaining themselves because they have done a poor job at managing our state.

      • It’s Great,

        Maine, the Way Life Should be!

        Now Leave, and dont let the open for business sign hit you on the way out!

        lol

  • Jazz11

    Why you ask? Because this man does not know what he is doing and has yet to figure out government is not Marden’s.

  • Lord Whiteman

    Papa Lepage thinks regular Mainers are too stupid to live in  a democracy.

    • Anonymous

      He’s about to find out that Mainers do have common sense.  

      • Guest

        I wish it were so, but I’m not betting on it.

  • Anonymous

    I was wondering when the trickle down economy would end. This is apparently the begining.

    Washington is tightening their belt and all of Congress is running around patting each other on the back shouting, “Good Job”!

    Augusta is tigtening their belt and the Governor, along with his yes man legislature, are running around patting each other on the back shouting, “Good Job’!

    It is about time for the towns and counties to tighten their belt and stop performing all the unfunded mandates that are sent to them by Washington and Augusta. Then they could be patting each other on the back.

    • Anonymous

      Take the belt off your head cause its obviously cutting off the blood flow to your brain!  These grants are matched by $11 million of PRIVATE MONEY.  That’s a 300% return on our money for investment in these communities.  With interest rates at historic lows, this is a no-brainer.. oh sorry.. no offense intended.

      • Anonymous

        You obviously have a comprehension problem. Did I indicate anywhere that I didn’t understand the process? Now slowly for you, Governor LePage and his cronies in Augusta are the problem. They are the ones holding things up. I among quite a few thousand people know that the bonds are matched with private money. Now go pick a fight with someone who is a fan of our illustrious Governor.

  • Anonymous

    With a 100 million dollar annual debt payment this makes sense.  If we keep bonding our debt will look like the federal governments only on a smaller scale but with the same effect.  The interest rate may be low but that is no reason just to borrow money.  And besides states don’t have the ability to print money the last time i checked.  And as far as job creation is concerned they are only short term.

    •  Hi where did you get that 100 million dollar figure? From the same guy who told you about “Buffalo  and black fly surveys”?  Right.   Well lets say that it is correct for a moment.  It seems like a big number right? However it is actually 1.6% of the annual budget.  If  any state can not afford to invest one and a half percent of its expenditures into capital investments in its future it is pretty poor indeed.  I am not suggesting that we should issue bonds willy nilly.  Nor do I personally support some of the bonds approved by Maine citizens.  But the idea that 100 million a year is to much for our state to be paying for debt service just shows an ignorance of the size of the economy.  In fact I would rather see intelligent infrastructure debt increase to provide a strong base for economic development than to have had my marginal tax rate cut by .5%. 

    • Tyke

      You realize that is less than 1% of the state budget, right?  And that Maine has one of the LOWEST debt to spending or Gross State Product ratios in the country?

      Investments like these are essential to Maine businesses and it is especially damaging to have promised money pulled out from under projects after they have already begun.

      What business would come to Maine to invest when the Governor has made it clear that his word is not worth anything and he will change the rules at others expense whenever he pleases?

  • This Bond money, and Paulie’s antic’s with it, are being seen more and more as a reason for business’s NOT TO COME TO MAINE, with their job’s, since Maine obviously can’t manage itself, much less work with any business that want’s to come here. The mere fact that the DECD is not returning phone calls speaks volumes about just how embarassed they are over their Governor’s antic’s and action’s. Given how hard the DECD fought for, and uncovered, the Kestrel mess, I for one do not blame them for not wanting to have to answer for the Governor’s action’s. That’s what his Press Secretary is for. Local Government’s and business group’s are now going to have to sit on the sidelines and watch their project’s, that produce not just job’s but business’s locating here, rot from inaction and outright hostitily since Augusta is clearly being run by a ‘My way or the highway’ bunch of people who live in some MHPC-sponsored Tim Burton movie.

    And you can bet that we folk’s here aren’t the only one’s seeing this as well. Bombardier was, hopefully, talking to DECD about the Brunswick Complex for opening up a manufacturing facillity. To do so is gonna require Maine, and Brunswick, to make some changes to the Complex to accomidate ‘Bomby’s need’s. I have no doubt that Bombardier has this factored into their start-up cost’s. But these cost’s are also predicated on Maine, or at least the Brunswick folk’s, providing some sort of off-set in terms of local matching funding, easement waiver’s or other similar accomidation’s. Given Maine’s now clear and open hostility towards any type of cooperating with local Govt’s, it’s a sure bet that these same companies are going to interpret LePage’s antics with Bond money as a sign that businesss are now going to have to go thru these same type hoop’s to satisfy, or at a minimum put up with, LePage’s antic’s and temper tantrum’s. People, in case anyone has forgotten the Big Picture, there are old military base’s all over the Country that are looking for new uses’s by their local Govt’s and communities. LePage keeps jerking Brunswick, and by extension, the rest of Maine around with this nonsense these same Companies are going to be well within their business rights, and common sense, to call DECD and tell’em “When you can get your act together, your Governor under control and your economic development policy’s straightened out, fine. Call us then. But until then DON’T CALL US, WE’LL CALL YOU”. Maine is now halfway thru the ‘Construction Season’ and is now faced with cutting it short since the matching or completion fundng for any number of business-related project’s are now deader than Moses’s mother. Now, if you’re a business owner, or thinking of starting a business, would you really want to do business in a State that’s openly hostile to the very local Gov’t that you need to work with to make the business a success ? Bombardier, and any other business out there that’s looking to expand or open, is asking this question. It’s time that the rest of us start asking it as well.

    • Anonymous

      When you have a fool for a Governor, no business will ever come to Maine.

    • Just think, employers coming to Maine looking for a talented work force,  get a glimpse of the guvnah and are now thinking,

      { And “HE”S” the smartest one of the bunch? }

  • Anonymous

    dazed and confused, what don’t you all get? I don’t really care who is doing the cutting to any programs, most everyone will be mad or upset and blame the guy in the office. Like I said before what don’t you get ……we don’t have the money to do these things an still the people think they are entitled to run their mouths about not getting money. To do things like the river walk………… Maybe if we didn’t squander the money from the good years we might have a better future ahead of us, but “NO”. If you ran your household like this you would end up at the homeless shelter. Money from other countries is not making things better. We have no one to blame but the greedy and the ambition  people who have given grant money away and mishandled government funds  like DHS (missing money never found???)
    It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that every government agency has been mishandle and now on the verge of going broke……..What the bleep is wrong with you people, we are broke, this country is broke and we continue to want more, more , and more…………In Presque Isle, we need a city manager and an assistant for him ……….never needed one before and don’t ever get me started on the school super….make a by-law so no one else can do what he is doing and rehiring after retirement at a larger salary……he makes more than LePaige………I have no real education but I’m smart enough to know I want these things to stop as a tax paying citizen of this country. Buying on credit, continuing to give our tax payor money away to other countries, sticking our nose into other countries business and fighting wars we can’t win. Sounds like a really bad business plan to me, but I’m not educated, so common sense
    again doesn’t make any sense to people who are never satisfied.

    • Anonymous

      I’d be happy to run my household such that I spend 3.5 million to receive 11 million. 

    • ” It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that every government agency has been mishandle and now on the verge of going broke……..What the bleep is wrong with you people, we are broke, this country is broke and we continue to want more, more , and more.”

      You are right, something IS a foot.

      But I fear it isn’t out of control spending , it’s out of control EARNING!

      Corporations have record amounts of profits thes days and are jut sitting on the sidelines with it.

      Not EVERYBODY is broke!

      • Guest

        They are also spending it lavishly to purchase the services of lawmakers.

  • I haven’t done my homework on what our law says about  citizen approved bond issues  but this has shades of Angus King who is a vocal opponent of citizen’s referendum and citizen initiatives

    To me, what citizens say they want by direct vote should not be subject to veto by the Governor or by the legislature.  It is our direction to them. ( Not that citizens are infallible or always wise in what they say they want.witness the fall of the world’s first democracy in Greece when the citizenry took on a war that was not viable because they were smitten by the glory and riches of winning that war).

    Right or wrong, what “we the people” say should be the law of the land and both the Governor and the legislature should be subject to the will of “we the people”

     Am I wrong to assume that legislative approval of a bond referendum takes into account the wisdom of incurring a given amount of debt..and that before it even gets to “we the people” for approval that determination has been made?

    I for one am very offended that the legislature and the Governor dole out huge amounts to companies like Cate Street ( and all their Old Town  predecessors) without any public scrutiny or accountability or any real commitment to “the public interest” and yet hold back well leveraged investments in local communities which have been created with local input and with an informed view to the health and well being of Maine communities.

    Have “we the people” no recourse to force the issuance of these bonds?

    • Anonymous

      Same stunt with the 2004 referendum compelling the State to fund 55% of EPS to local school districts.  They’re ignoring the people.  And at their own peril.

      • At their own peril? Or at ours?

        Ours, I’d say unless we take them up issue by issue..naming who is behind it..writing and where possible testifying.

        The culture of the legislature doesn’t change on election day.

        It is well established.

        We have to change that day by day.

        Issue by Issue.

        • Anonymous

          Well said.

  • Anonymous

    Paulie needs to get off the Koch !

  • Anonymous

    You know, at some point, we all need to acknowledge that this is the new Republican party’s agenda.  It isn’t just Paul LePage.  The so-called moderates in the legislature like to distance themselves from these kinds of LePage stunts, but at the end of the day, it is there party that elected this man and they support his agenda overall. You can’t vote LePage out of office this November, but you can send him and the Republicans a clear message by giving he House, and possibly the Senate, back to the Democrats.  Checkmate.

  • This is a lawsuit in waiting.  Maine and Governor LePage have breached a contract.  The towns and cities have a contract with Maine, an offer was made and it was accepted.  Maine notified the communities that they were to receive the grants.  The communities acted on the promise, taking steps and spending money.  That was the acceptance.  So I can easily see City of Rockland v. State of Maine, Governor Paul LePage, et al. 

    Governor LePage may not have broken the law by statute, but I think he is in violation of contract law.  I wonder how he would have felt as CEO of Marden’s if someone had breached a contract with Marden’s.  Suddenly I have this image of Premier Krushchev of the Soviet Union famously pounding a podium with his shoe. 

    • Anonymous

       At the very least, he’s the executive authority. So it is his duty to execute the law.

      I’m no lawyer, but I was wondering if someone could file for a “writ of mandamus” to compel him to deliver on the bonds.

      According to wikipedia, a writ of mandamus is “issued by a superior court to compel a lower court or a government
      officer to perform mandatory or purely ministerial duties correctly.”

  • Briney

    Except for a couple of lame and  toned down comments from Democrats, no one is doing anything to change this lamentable hold-up of funds.  

    Membership in both parties should be tackling Le Page daily.  Politicians  need to  “get off the couch” and administer  a full Legislative censure of Le Page, for his continued obnoxious behavior.  It is totally  unbefitting that of a governor for the State of Maine. 

    Unfortunately, Maine citizens have no recourse as other states do for impeachment, and/or, recall. But that’s no reason for the politicians to allow one man to block  the state’s efforts  to move forward. 

    • Maine does have an impeachment procedure.  It’s in the Maine constitution, article IX, section 5.  But it would require action by both houses of the legislature.  Don’t look for that anytime soon. 

      • Anonymous

        what about a people’s recall?

        • Anonymous

          No recall procedure in Maine.  Take away the House and Senate from Republicans, and you’ll see legislation to that effect.

    • Tyke

      If Democrats were to achieve a veto proof majority in both houses of the legislature in November LePage would be powerless to do anything for the next 2 years.

      Impeachment requires proof that the governor broke the law. While Lepage is clearly incompetent and immoral, I don’t see clear unassailable evidence of illegal activity.

  • Anonymous

    Freeze LePage…….!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Freeze his daughter’s and brother-in-law’s paychecks.

      What’s good for the goose….etc.
      Yessah

  • Anonymous

    Please don’t be confused. LePage has no idea what he is doing. You elect a Buffoon, what do you expect.

  • Anonymous

    Maine: “Open for Business.” Yes, we’re “getting the business” for sure, but it’s a lot different than what he promised. Big Boss is seeing to that.

  • Guest

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  • Anonymous

    Dumb and dumber…….when does this nitwit go away?

    • Guest

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      • Anonymous

        No kidding Oy!

        • Guest

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  • Anonymous

    We need to continue the investments from the past.We need more drug clinics not infrastructure. 

  • i work for a paving co. that would be doing
    the work for these towns. 20 of us will
    likely be let go without the work/so
    much for the cra-p maine needs skilled
    works
    paving is a skilled professional not as easy
    as it looks, easy to get work out of maine  seeya!

    • I D Durkin

      they need the money for guns, tank, bombs, and bombers,  do we really need hi ways ?

      get out and vote, tell em what you want !     Oh ya  they have to help the oil companies too.

  • Anonymous

    the people need to be heard.surely there is some lawmakers left that will stand up for what is right.The state is falling further behind the 8 ball with the govs.actions and racist statements and lack of job creation,except if you are a relative or friend of the good old boys club. 

  • Anonymous

    Good for the Gov. Why should we be paying for this pork? A horrific waste of funding. If these really are worthwhile projects, let the locals cough up the dough and feel the tax pain that goes with it. I’m plainly sick of seeing it on a state and national level.

    • Anonymous

      Because we voted for it.

  • Anonymous

    “Penny wise and pound foolish” in action!  
    So much for making Maine a business-friendly state.  He reneges on $3.5million worth of promised grants, so $11million in private investment will disappear too, along with all the sales and income tax that would have been generated by the improved businesses.  Oh, and then there will be the cost of legal bills from all those broken contracts. It seems to me that our illustrious governor has just cost the state a whole lot more than he thinks he saved. Does he know NOTHING about how business investments work?

  • Anonymous

    LePage hates jobs and LePage hates Maine.

    Yessah

    • Tyke

      Maine isn’t too fond of Lepage either.

  • Anonymous

    So am I to believe that because we are not giving money away to make a river walking path that companies are not going to come the the state with their business………..it seems as though some here are of the same cloth as those in office…………..WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY NO MATTER WHAT WAS PROMISED. I don’t care if the vote was to fund these projects NO MONEY NO PROJECTS.
    Does not matter whether you are one or the other Dem or Rep that whole concept is stupid………It does not work and hasn’t worked for a very long time. All you want to do is fight and fight and never accomplish anything……………..took Snowe almost a life (a career anyway) to figure that out……..
    The mentality of this whole thing is just ludicrious…………..and we are the world leaders some smart people we’ve got there in office. I would like to know who told this country we know best, evidence has proven that wrong time and time again………Why don’t we take all that bond money and support the injuried and PTS men and women who have fought a war that was started under illegal circumstances and evidence.

    • Tyke

      Lepage has made a clear staement to businesses that he will change his mind and pull back already promised funds on a whim.

      I wouldn’t invest under those circumstances and neither will most businesses.

      • Guest

        You mean like retired teachers benefits? Aw, who cares about them?

  • Guest

    ……

  • Anonymous

    Penny wise and pound foolish, same old, same old.  Just as expected from this non-functional overly ideological administration.

  • Anonymous

    We need a recall amendment to our State Constitution, The Lepages of the world have no place in public office.

  • lzrdkng

    Ok, I’ve been through a lot of responses, no one seems to grasp the basic fact of what is happening. Back in 1776, we were dealing with a government that was ignoring the people it should have been serving. Now, after about 230 years, the rich are once more ruling us with an iron fist. When are we going to stand up to them?? Hat kind of government doesn’t listen to those who voted for you? Communism, Socialism. This sickens me, I love my country, but the government frightens me now..

  • before you rant on the ‘welfare’ programs do your research… maine being the oldest population has much more to do with our social services responsibilities & demands on the system than supposed fraud.  Is it YOUR parents, grandparents and elderly neighbors cheating the system?
    oh, and they just removed the specialists & advocates for seniors in our state so this admin could replace those departments with fraud investigators…wonder if we will lose as much $ as florida did chasing after non-existent fraud.

    and as for those missing jobs & federal dollars you complain aren’t making their way to any of us…that actually has more to do with the current LePage administration and legislature’s refusal to properly address those social programs, while simultaneously cancelling projects that would bring in $ through new jobs.
    rather than blame the ‘all-powerful’ Obama for those troubles, you should acknowledge that our state’s elected officials are too busy creating barriers that make us ineligible for federal dollars and responsible for returning monies to the feds for portions of past projects & current programs they granted to our state.

    http://bangordailynews.com/2009/05/13/politics/census-maine-oldest-whitest-state-in-nation/?ref=relatedBox
    http://www.mpbn.net/News/MPBNNews/tabid/1159/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3762/ItemId/19399/Default.aspx
    http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/03/politics/state-house/lepage-says-decisions-on-affordable-care-act-implementation-in-maine-on-hold/

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