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  • Anonymous

    I got bit by a deer tick last fall, it was right inside of my belly. I got it out with tweezers and put it in a baggie and went to the ER. I was 5 1/2 hours waiting to even get in to see a Doctor first off, than when he sees the tick he told me it was a deer tick for sure, the ones that carry lyme. Well they gave me one big pill  that is an antibiotic and sent me home and told me to look for the bullseye rash and watch how I feel and that they would call with the results if it was a deer tick for sure. Well I ended up having to call them and they said it tested positive for a deer tick but never checked it for lyme, they told me they dont do that only check to see what kind it is. Well months later I am fatiuged constantly, and I also had got the flu really bad twice after I had got bit and I hardly ever get the flu. Well a lady I know that I talked to told me the same thing happened to her, and she did not get the bullseye like I did but feels fatigued all the time, and her Doctor was going to do the West Blot test on her to see if she had lyme disease. I went to my Doctor hoping to have the same thing done, and he told me I was fine as long as I had that pill they gave me and that fatigue is not one of the symptoms, what??? that is at the top of the list for symptoms. He wont test me, I guess I dont know what to do, I practically begged him but he told me I was fine. What would you do?? Go somewhere else to get tested? Not sure what to do. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Im really scared that I may have it.

    • Anonymous

       To heck with him…see another doctor !

    • Anonymous

      I agree, see another doctor.  You are your best advocate and it is worth it to get checked out again.  Do you know how accurate the test are?  I hope you are feeling better soon!!

    • Anonymous

      You can get the tick tested by out of state facilities for around $70. Just send it in the mail. It’s good idea to do this since apparently local EDs care not.

    • Anonymous

      See another DR. ASAP.     This is not a disease to fool with .  I know of 3 people that have suffered from Lymes for years, and it can cause some extremely un-pleasant illnesses and side-effects.–Where-ever you went to be seen sounds like a nitemare!

    • Find yourself another doctor and request that they do a Lyme titer (a simple blood test that will determine if you have Lyme antibodies in your blood.).

    • Alexander Davis

      The one-dose antibiotic treatment has been shown to be largely ineffective (although it saved the insurance companies big bucks). Mayo treats with antibiotics 14-21 days.   

      •  Actually there was a good article last year about a fellow in Belfast – his Lyme literate doctor said he proscribes 6 WEEKS antibiotics when there is a rash or known deer tick attached.

    • Jake_OO7

      Obama care cover will cover Lyme disease much more thoroughly, too bad you were treated that way.

    • Anonymous

      Lyme disease can be hard to diagnose because other than the
      rash, there is no other physical proof to diagnose it.  Following
      guidelines, it appears you were treated appropriately with a single dose of
      antibiotic, even with the rash.  They do
      not do routine testing of ticks for tick-borne diseases.  Even if you did demanded blood work, there is a
      chance that no antibodies would show up, even if you had contracted Lyme
      disease, because you got antibiotics early and may not have had a chance to
      make any or there could be too few to be picked up on.  OR you could still have antibodies, but no
      disease…like with any illness, once you contract it you get better, but your
      body has made antibodies to be ready for it should you come in contact with it
      again.  Try to look at other possible
      causes in your life that may be giving your immune system a run for your
      money-job changes, financial challenges, relationship trouble, difficulty
      sleeping, changes in diet, etc. 
      Coincidentally, it could have just been a crappy year for you!  If the fatigue is from Lyme, rest assured
      you’ve probably recovered from it after medication and will probably just take
      time to get back to normal.  If you are truly worried, though, then finding another provider to get a second opinion can’t hurt.  Good luck!
      :)

    • Guest

      If one has had the rash, and not all do, then that alone is proof positive of Lyme Disease. Insist that blood work be sent to Igenex Lab in California for testing. I tested negative several times over 4 years  and had been told by several physicians basically that I could not have Lyme. But because I did have the erythema migrans rash, although unfortunately I didn’t know what it was at the time, and with all my symptoms that followed, 
       I wouldn’t let it go. Finally, I found a physician who was aware of the short comings of the usual Lyme testing done here, and my blood work was sent to Igenex Lab (look at their web site). My results came back positive just as I had suspected. Check out mainelyme.org, it lists several locations of support groups that meet to share valuable information. You can also send them a message & they can help with suggestions of physicians in the area who can help you. You have to advocate for yourself,   Lyme Disease is complicated and so is the treatment. Good Luck.

  • Anonymous

    In the  battle against Lyme and ticks, please remember that coyotes are our friends.  Ticks are carried by mice (white-footed) which are one of the coyotes main food sources.  Ticks are also carried by deer and, yes, coyotes do prey on the weak, sick deer unable to defend themselves (against coyotes and possibly ticks, too).
    Gov. LePage recently signed a bill that provides money for coyote extermination.  Misguided–and not good news for white-footed mouse control.   Coyotes keep the deer herd healthy.  Loss of habitat is the primary reason for lack of deer in a given area, not coyotes.  At my house I have lots of coyotes, lots of deer and I rarely see a tick.

    • Anonymous

      Just knew I’d find this mis information when I saw the head line. Coyotes keep the deer herd healhy? Kinda like the wolf in the western states keeping   the elk,mule deer and moose healthy?
       Get a grip and stop beliving the propoganda. Look for real science, not propaganda put out by animal rights extremist groups. L ook for the highest concentrations of Lyme. They occur in areas where the hunting of deer has been stopped or severely limited. Then google coyote attacks on humans, notice anything? or are you too brainwashed?

    • Alexander Davis

      Coyotes are not the answer to the Lyme epidemic which was caused by the deer epidemic.  For information on how decreasing the deer population results in a decrease in Lyme, read pages 2-4 of this CT report. 

      http://www.ct.gov/dep/lib/dep/wildlife/pdf_files/game/urbandeer07.pdf

    • Anonymous

      So, are you trying to, in some clever way, say that LePage is responsible for Lyme?  That’s just a biiiiiiit of a stretch.

      • Eager_tree is not saying that at all. She’s saying that coyotes are an important part of the food chain and help manage deer which are hosts for lyme. Eradicating any species is generally bad for the environment and encourages disease to find new hosts.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve lived in the Maine woods my entire life but this is the first year we have vaccinated the dogs for lime disease.  Advantix has worked in the past but don’t want to take any chances.  We’ve already found 5 ticks on the dogs this year.  The symptoms of lime disease are often very subtle, so be aware.    

  • Anonymous

    You Would Swear That The Money for the test comes out of the Drs pocket at times… What Is His Problem?  You Need To Go See Another Dr ASAP…

  • Anonymous

    This has been my worst year for ticks. I have found 34 ticks on me so far this year and 2 of them were deer ticks. 

    • Sleepycreek–get some permethrin for your clothes and wear deet when you go out!  The best way to stop lyme is to avoid ticks! 

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for the advise. I have tried about every old trick I have heard of and nothing works for me. I just do a lot of tick check while out in the woods. So far I mostly get them crawling and only had to starting to bite (both dog ticks). New number is 36 ticks.

    • Alexander Davis

      Spraying for ticks does not prevent all tick bites, and you only need one.  Most cases of Lyme are caused by the nymphs which are minute and easy to miss.  Try finding a poppyseed in your hair.

  • Anonymous

    It’s simple folks.  Daily, after time outdoors, have a good bath and then find someone attentive enough to lick you all over like a postage stamp.  Have a tick scoop handy and pick off any ticks found.  If they aren’t attached for 24 hours and aren’t squeezed when removed, you’ll be fine.

    • “find someone attentive enough to lick you all over like a postage stamp?”What??

      • Anonymous

        Relax. It’s just a way to have fun during a tick check.

    • Anonymous

       Not true- doctors have proven that ticks can be attached less than 24 hours to transmit Lyme.

  • Alexander Davis

    The horrific nature of Lyme Disease is mostly unknown by the public.  Symptoms may persist for years even in those treated initially, which many people are not.  The CDC says 10-20 % of treated patients have persistent symptoms.  Many or even most never see the tick, and many miss the rash, which 20% don’t have anyway.  Children are the most common victims.   Studies in Connecticut and elsewhere show that decreasing the deer population results in a decrease of Lyme.  The deer population has exploded, and the obvious solution is to get rid of the deer, which are biological WMD.     

  • Anonymous

    Maine has been playing down the presence of tick-borne diseases for years.  Even Aroostook county has had PLENTY of cases of lyme in dogs and people over the past decade and the Maine CDC refused to acknowledge the presence of the disease until last year, claiming that the disease wasn’t present in The County and “that pet or person must have picked it up somewhere else and then traveled up north.” 

    Good that they’re finally admitting there is a problem, but don’t believe that only the southern part of the state is affected.  A big part of the problem is that YOU DON’T DIAGNOSE A DISEASE IF YOU DON’T TEST FOR IT.  So by all means, insist on being tested for any or all of these diseases if you think you might have been exposed, even if your doctor tries to blow you off.  Same goes for your vet, if your pet is sick.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty sorry data from the UMaine Climate Change Ctr about us being Massachusetts-like climate-wise in 38 years…I like the old Maine weather a lot better.

  • Anonymous

    What to do about hair, should all that work in the woods shave our heads? I seriously doubt if I can detect a deer tick latched on in my hair.

    That human Limerix vaccine from  a decade ago was supposed to be quite effective, but some recipients of the vaccine claimed it gave them symptoms that were Lyme-like and the drug manufacturers pulled the vaccine worried about lawsuits. That’s the problem with Lyme is that it mimics other diseases, so there would always be those that thought the vaccine made them sick.

    I want the vaccine back!

    • Lymerix was pulled off the market after making many people very very ill.  It wasn’t that the people thought it made them sick, they actually had autoimmune responses to the vaccine that made them irreversibly ill:
      “about 30 percent of the population has a predisposition to a degenerative autoimmune syndrome which can be triggered by contents of the vaccine. The assertion is that SmithKline Beecham used high concentrations of OspA (Outer Surface Protein A of Borrelia burgdorferi) as the foundation of the vaccine. The amount of OspA entering the bloodstream at any phase of the three-dose LYMErix vaccine places patients who are HLA-DR4+ at risk of developing “treatment resistant Lyme arthritis”.

      Further, the vaccine is effective 75% of the time and does not stop co-infections!

  • Guest

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  • One of the best sources for information is  http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/about_lyme.html

    Just in response to a couple of postings here so far – read this:

    Fewer than 50% of patients with Lyme disease recall a tick bite. In some studies this number is as low as 15% in culture-proven infection with the Lyme spirochete.

    Fewer than 50% of patients with Lyme disease recall any rash. Although the erythema migrans (EM) or “bull’s-eye” rash is considered classic, it is not the most common dermatologic manifestation of early-localized Lyme infection. Atypical

    Unless your physician is truly “lyme literate”, you really need to print out this brochure for them and hope they follow the info not just say thank you and ignore it.

    What Every Primary Care Physician Should Know About Lyme Disease
    http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/Primary_care_brochure_08_08.pdf

    Like this post so it gets to the top !!

  • Alexander Davis

    Eager_Tree implies that coyotes keep deer from picking up ticks because they are so healthy. This is ridiculous.  Healthy children pick up ticks just like unhealthy children.  Only an epidemic of coyotes would eradicate the deer and stop the Lyme epidemic.  Adult deer ticks require a large host like a deer. This is why it has been the deer epidemic which is responsible for so much Lyme-produced misery.  We should put the health of our children first.     

  • Guest

    I never noticed them, until last year.  I pulled into the driveway of a nearby house for sale, got out to take a look at the property, and before I knew it my feet and legs were literally covered in small black ticks.  My friend and I had to frantically strip down to remove them.  I’ve never seen anything like it, and now the problem has spread farther north.  Lately when I visit family, we can’t seem to go outdoors without getting one on us.  Anyone know of something you can spray in your yard to prevent these nasty little critters?

  • Alexander Davis

    As reported by Gail Collins in The New
    York Times 5/31/12, Paul Curtis, extension wildlife specialist at Cornell University,
    says that to get the tick population down to a reasonable level, “you need deer
    densities of 6-8 deer per square mile or less. 
    In the urban-rural fringes of many large metropolitan areas it’s not unusual
    to have densities of 100-200 deer/square mile.”  

  • Anonymous

    My Husband and I are from northern Maine and we moved south about 16 years ago. I had no idea what a tick was  but I sure do now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We buy 4 bags of tick and other bug killer granuals every spring ( you can get them at Home Depot or Lowes or any other  big store) and our dogs and ourselves have not had a tick on us for years. It may be alittle costly but it sure beats not getting lyme disease.

  • Anonymous

    ************If the fatigue is from Lyme, rest assuredyou’ve probably recovered from it after medication and will probably just taketime to get back to normal.**********
     
    ONE dose of doxy does not cure Lyme disease. It may prevent the development of a rash if they were going to get one, or to alter the immune response. Lyme disease is a clinical diagnosis, using lab results to support good medical judgement. One does not develop immunity to a tick bite and all of the diseases that can be transmitted in a bite, and one tends to get sicker and sicker on subsequent bites.  
    FMI see http://www.ilads.org or http://www.mainelyme.org
     

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