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  • OldWench

    Cut LePage’s daughter’s job and pay the public defenders.

    • Anonymous

      are you serious? why don’t you pay for them, you seem to think all these deadbeats deserve something. i’d be willing to bet these lawyers are defending the very slime that rape, beat, and steal. i work to hard for the little money i get to keep, for us paying to defend guilty lowlife criminals. am i alone in thinking these people gave their rights up when they decided to become criminals? i’m glad we’re out of money. and furthermore, why would you bring lepage into this? i bet you’d sure feel different if your daughter was raped, or beaten within an inch of her life now wouldn’t you. i hope you never have that happen and i hope you wake up and see that the real citizens of maine are sick of handing out passes and rewarding for bad behavior.

      •  I bet you would feel different if you were innocent and needed legal defense, innocent until proven guilty.

        • Guest

          That saying is NOT true. If it was………then people wouldn’t be locked up and need to be bailed out. It is guilty until you hire an attorney and prove that you’re no

      • Guest

        —–

      • Guest

        …..

        • Tyke

           LePage is unable to balance any part of any budget he is involved in.

          … but his daughter and brother in law are still getting 100% of the inflated pay and all of their benefits, so he figures it’s OK.

          • Guest

            ////

      • OldWench

        Our Constitution guarantees legal representation when charged with a crime if a person is unable to afford one themselves.  It’s the law and a principle in which this country was founded on.  Don’t like it…go join the Taliban or move to a 3rd world country without such protections and see how well you like it.

        • Anonymous

          Interestingly enough, it took a almost two centuries for a handful of left wing extremists to discover that right.

          • Anonymous

            It’s the penumbra and all that.

          • Tyke

             The 1932 Supreme Court was a “handful of left wing extremists”???

            Where on earth did you come up with that gem?

        • Anonymous

          now what i was saying has nothing to do with hard working folks that are down on their luck. if the losers didn’t eat up all the money on nonsense then there’d be money. and btw, if folks like me did join the taliban and leave this country, who would pay all your handout programs? 

          • OldWench

            If people like you all left the US then minimum wage would be raised to something actually livable, there would be universal health care and greedy corporations would no longer be able to economically rape the US citizenry.

          • Anonymous

             No difference between the Taliban and Rick Perry/Rick Santorum’s Dominionists except for what the women are required to wear.Read “American Taliban”

        •  Yes this is true but there should be a limit to the amount of legal representation repeat offenders are getting.  “Old Wench” there is a principle of freedom of speech to express one’s opinion.   We don’t have to like everything about our government nor it’s rules but we always have the right to speak up against it.  In a third world country, you wouldn’t get the chance to repeat a crime.

          • OldWench

            It is only the holier than thou anti tax crowd who are complaining.  The constitution also specifically says Congress is to collect taxes…most people understand that this is something that is necessary, but some on here appear to be so anti government and anti tax that what they wish for is basically to make this country into a third world country where most are starving, homeless, penniless, sick and dying and only the wealthy survive.  Those whiners are free to move out of America anytime they choose.  Frankly, it would be a better place without them.

          • Anonymous

             We can’t get rid of those who hate this country and destroy it from the inside like termites.
            Why would they leave?They’re getting rich screwing real people.All we can do is wait for them to die off.Won’t happen soon enough.

        • Anonymous

          The Constitution guarantees the right “to have the assistance of counsel for his defence.”

          It does not guarantee the “right” to have the public treasury pay for that defense any more than the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms requires the public treasury to pay for anyone’s guns.

          • Oldfishergeek

             so, the government should force attorneys to work for nothing?  I think an amendment to the constitution banned that also. 

          • Anonymous

            The lawyers are not forced to take these cases, so a voluntary act could hardly be defined as slavery.

            If the issue is so heart rending to attorneys, maybe the local bar associations could start a member-supported fund to take on these cases.  I wouldn’t be holding my breath until that happens, though.

          • OldWench

            Yes it does…it specificially says that Congress is to collect taxes in order to provide for the common defense and general welfare of US Citizens.  Perhaps you should actually READ it before claiming to know what is in it.

          • Anonymous

            So are you under the impression that the “common defense” refers to defense attorneys?

            And since the left loves to invoke “general welfare” as justification for looting the treasury for their pet causes, I assume in the interest of diversity that you would favor the government’s paying for my guns so that I can provide for my own “common defense” and “general welfare.”  Right?

          • OldWench

            It is specifically covered in the 6th Amendment of the Bill of Rights.  Even non-US citizens are guaranteed a public defender to represent them under the US Constitution.

            And regarding taxes collected to pay for such things you only need to look at Article 1, Section 8. Here is a link: http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html

          • Anonymous

            From the link you provided, (click on “Welfare”)which defeats your own argument:

            “Welfare

            welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being. [ME wel faren, to fare well] Source: AHD

            Welfare in today’s context also means organized efforts on the part of public or private organizations to benefit the poor, or simply public assistance.

            This is not the meaning of the word as used in the Constitution.

          • OldWench

            The preamble reads: “WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

            Let’s not forget Due Process and the 6th amendment, either.

          • Anonymous

            Since you’re so fond of invoking the words and intent (as you see it) of the Founders regarding general welfare, read this quote from James Madison.  It is, in fact, a litany of everything the left has done to undermine the very foundation of our Constitution, all of which was opposed by Madison:

            “If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress…

            Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America.”

            http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/James.Madison.Quote.3254

          • OldWench

            Apparently you are just going to keep dancing around the very specific Constitutional Amendments and Bill of Rights that CLEARLY state that every person charged with a crime who cannot afford an attorney MUST be provided a public defender at no charge.

            I cited the preamble to simplify and because I didn’t feel like finding the specific quotes that I have already posted to you.  Face the facts, bucko…you have lost this argument.  Unfortunately, you don’t appear bright enough to stop arguing despite the obvious fact that you are wrong.  But hey, if you want to continue to make yourself look foolish you go right ahead.  

          • Anonymous

            Nowhere does the Constitution or Bill of Rights clearly provide for free legal representation despite your repeated assertions.  Hey, what did James Madison know anyway?  If he were here today, I’m sure he’d defer to your towering intellect.

            Your puzzlingly enormous ego notwithstanding, ad hominem attacks still aren’t a substitute for fact.

          • Tyke

             The 14th amendment added the concept of equal protection as part of the constitution, and to have equal protection an attorney must be provided for those who do not have the funds to hire one (Supreme Court ruling in 1932).

      • Anonymous

        I hope you never are accused of something you did not do.   I am sick of holier than thou attitudes, some people just don’t have money, they live from pay check to pay check and have nothing in the bank or any where else. Everybody is entitled to protection of their rights, otherwise lets rip up the Constitution. 

      • Anonymous

        If somebody were to rape one of my daughters, I would be the one that would need a lawyer;  there would be no need for a court appointed attorney for the defendant because they would be taking a dirt nap. 

        • Anonymous

          I’m sure that would make your daughter feel a lot better.

          • Anonymous

            It is how I think I would immediately react; hopefully in a bad situation somebody has people around them to prevent them from that instant rush of adrenaline that comes naturally when something happens to your child.  

            I am certainly not going to even imagine what it would be like because, yes, I could load up a gun and go looking, or  or call some heavy duty friends and have them do something… that said, realistically, nothing like that would happen as long as I had some way of calming down and thinking straight for a day or two. 

            It’s primal instinct to protect your kids.  I am not sure why this thread has deviated so much from the point of the newspaper story.

        • Anonymous

          Again, this is one of those mentalities that’s getting so tiresome.

        • Guest

          Hot air…

      • Anonymous

        The only problem with your reasoning is that people before trial are not criminals. You might want to check that thing called “The Bill of Rights”.

      • Bob

        Not all people charge with a crime are guilty.

      • Guest

        It is not always a “lowlife” that needs representation. If you got off your high horse and out of your hatred house……………

      • Anonymous

         Are you kidding? You could not be that ignorant of the constitution. I think you must be trying to make fun of right wingers by pretending to be that ignorant.  Have you heard that you are innocent until proven guilty?

      • As noted elsewhere, please read the 6th Amendment to the US Constitution.

    • Guest

      Absolutely brilliant commentary!

    • No.  Take away the TANF while we’re at it.

      • OldWench

        You can’t take away TANF unless you also take away all forms of Social Security and Medicare since they are all part of the same group of social insurance programs.  Same applies to Medicaid and Foodstamps.  

    • Anonymous

      Fire the brother in law too and pay the Public Defenders.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t forget the brother in law and the extra state cops in his office.Plus Nutting’s $Millions in fraud.There’s plenty more where that came from.THOSE are who needs to be in court in chains and disgrace.They’ve got plenty of cash for lawyers.

  • Anonymous

    Clearly those over paid attorneys need to get off the couch and learn a trade…….pffffffft.

  • Try this, don’t get in trouble. And if you get in trouble pay your for your attorney, why should i pay for it.

    • Anonymous

      Great idea!!! I don’t have children- why should I have to pay taxes to support the local school system to pay for your kids education???  Not my responsibility to insure your kids aren’t numb.

      • Someone else’s kids are going to be the EMTs that respond to the 911 call your spouse places when you’re having a heart attack. And someone else’s kids are going to be the nurses and doctors that treat you at the hospital, which is maintained by yet someones else’s kids. Someone else’s kids designed that hospital, and still other kids built it.

        The roads that the ambulance (designed and built by other people’s kids) were – I think you get the picture.

        Why don’t you move to a place in which you don’t have to rely on other people’s children to exist?

      • Anonymous

        yeah, that’s the same thing. *sigh*

    • Anonymous

      Have you ever heard of innocence until proven guilty, everybody should have an attorney to protect their rights.  How would you feel if for some reason you could not pay for an attorney and you were accused of some thing you did not do? 

      • Anonymous

        Personally, I would expect to be in hock to an attorney and work to pay the services off at a later date.

        Why should I expect everyone else to pay for my lawyer when I am the one who has the legal issue requiring the service of a court?

        To answer your question, if you are wrongfully accused of something, by either a private or public party, then you would certainly be able to recoup legal fees in the likely event that you are exhonorated.

        • Anonymous

           then you would certainly be able to recoup legal fees in the likely event that you are exhonorated. 
          You might want to do a bit more research on that I don’t think that is always the case

          • Anonymous

            During the colonial period and the early years of the Republic the practice in
            the United States was varied with respect to providing COUNSEL to suspects in
            criminal cases. The practice varied from the English method, where no counsel
            was provided to defendants of FELONY charges, but counsel was made available for
            defendants of MISDEMEANOR charges. Rules in a few states allowed for the
            appointment of counsel where defendants could not afford to retain a lawyer. The
            Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: “in all criminal prosecutions,
            the ACCUSED shall enjoy the right… to have the assistance of counsel for his
            defense.” At the time the Sixth Amendment was ratified, Congress enacted two
            laws that appeared to indicate an understanding that the Sixth Amendment
            guarantee was limited: counsel would not be denied to those who wished for and
            could afford a lawyer. Much latern 1930she Supreme Court began to expand the
            clause to its present scope.

          • Tyke

            Actually iIt was the addition of equal protection in the 14th amendment that was the primary basis of the 1932 Supreme Court ruling.

            The 6th amendment guarantees the right to counsel and the 14th guarantees equal protection under the law.  Equal protection of the accused could not exist if an attorney is not representing them.

          • Can you cite the ruling Tyke?

          • Tyke
          • Thanks. Gideon v. Wainwright extended Powell to all trials, not just capitol cases.

        • OldWench

          I’m astounded by the level of ignorance some people on this site display.  Why are public defenders provided for people who can’t afford them?  Simple…because the US Constitution says so.  Don’t like it then GTFO of America…no one is making you stay.

        • Guest

          You never recoup attorney fees! 

        • Anonymous

          I am glad you would work to pay the attorney, however not all people are able or willing to do that. 
          You state that legal fees may be recouped, possibly true for private suits but not so for being accused for a crime.

          • Tyke

             Plus lawyers are unlikely to take on clients with no clear means to pay their bill.

        • Anonymous

           That event is not likely at all.MANY people have been falsely accused and have been executed,died in jail or were only found innocent after many years.See The Innocence Project.

        • Anonymous

           Wrong. If the state screws up, charges you, costs you your house and your freedom, unless you go to jail you get squat.

      •  Maybe there should an intern program where the students get credit for defending people.

        • Anonymous

          USM Law School is doing that in the Portland area in the lower courts.

        • Many law firms provide pro bono legal services to the poor as a way to broaden the legal experience of their employees.

      • Guest

        That saying is NOT true. If it was………then people wouldn’t be locked up and need to be bailed out. It is guilty until you hire an attorney and prove that you’re innocent and then the accusation stays on your record. Something wrong with the system, time for an overhaul.

        • Anonymous

          People are locked up because of probable cause, in other words it is reasonable for one to think that a crime was committed by a person,therefore they are arrested and put in jail, the court may not agree and release that person but that is why an attorney is needed to protect one’s rights.   

    • Huh! Who would of thought?

      The State Ran Out of Money!

      Thats what happens when you elect Dim Witted Deadbeats who sign Pledges to reduce taxes!

      You know, the run it like your Home Finance’s Mindsetters!

      I  can see them now sitting in the barcolounger, feet up with a cold one explaining to their wife why the check bounced for groceries!

      Sorry!

      I signed a pledge not to work on Fridays Anymore!

    • Anonymous

       Your ignorance of the constitutional principles is complete.

  • Anonymous

    Take a little from the prosecutors and the judges, give the jury at least minimum wage and reserved parking, then pay the defense attorneys enough for  a proper job.  Jury duty pay should be much higher, Judge pay should be much lower.

    • Tyke

       Maine judges are already paid far below the average in similarly sized rural states and it is getter more and more difficult to find lawyers willing to take a huge cut in pay to become a judge.

  • Anonymous

    This an absolute disgrace.  Prosecutors just file charges without doing any
    work and defense attorneys are forced to prove their client’s
    innocence.  How does any attorney do that for $50/hr AND such ridiculously low
    pay limits?   

    So rather than pay attorney’s $150/hr to resolve bogus cases the state
    rather pay $30K per year to keep even innocent people in prison and through
    their appeals?   Absolutely disgraceful violation of the Constitutional rights
    by way of attrition.  Absolute disgrace.

  • Anonymous

    Once again we run head on into what the law demands and what our present leaders in Augusta are willing to fund. I wonder how they are going to shift the responsibility from Augusta to the Counties. Oops, that will mean that the county will up the contribution from the towns to support the county courts. Ta Da, property taxes will go up. In the mean time Governor LePage and the rest of these Republican/MHPC/ALEC/Tea Party politicians can run around crowing to the rising sun how they have saved the taxpayers money.

    • Anonymous

       They can crow until the ax falls and they are silenced.REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

  • I feel really bad for the lawyers.

  • Anonymous

    Of course you have to realize that attorneys are only appointed in those cases where there is the possibility of incarceration. If  mandated sentances were removed there would be a lowered demand for court appointed lawyers. But since there is a rage to punish in this country and everything is being made a crime the demand will only be greater. Quite frankly all attorneys should refuse court appointments at the current rate and the justice system would grind to a quick halt.

  • Anonymous

    More and more Maine is becoming a Third World Country under the leadership of                           El Supremo LePage.

    • Anonymous

      I hope someday we can reach that high level of ‘Third World Country’;)

    • Guest

      With greed and hatred………the USA is becoming and third world country!!!

  • Anonymous

    Hence, since the middle class do not qualify for court appointed lawyers, and they do not provide lawyers for civil cases. People are losing and lost their right to representation. It doesn’t take fact or a second witness to screw someone over, who is then in a position to need representation to get something back that was taken away or compensation for their hardship. These are the people screwed over by others whining to a judge, and those who make or have too much for help but not enough to afford representation.

    Those committed to a mental hospital could have been committed by strangers and an estranged relative that has an ulterior motive.

    I thought representation was a right?!?!?

    Where did it go for those who don’t have money and don’t qualify for assistance, and what do you do when it is spent all on a lawyer and are out of money before things are settled?

    What if Hendrahan’s ex husband didn’t have the means to fight the case? How many children are left in those abusive homes who took custody of the children and claimed the other parent was the abuser and got away with it?

    How many normal people have been involuntarily committed and lost life, liberty, and property and never should have, who never hurt anyone else or themselves, can live on their own and do not qualify for disability, who should have rights of a normal person?

    Everyone else around them was confused? Hey, if you don’t understand someone don’t they become stupid, dumb, or crazy?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get any financial help when I need an attorney!

  • Anonymous

    Welfare for lawyers.

    • Anonymous

      Given your insightful response, am I safe to suppose you work for free?

      • Anonymous

        Compared to what lawyers receive, yes.  Your moniker states your poor attempt at humor.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t pay Drs and Hospitals, now can’t pay attorneys and our elected representatives want more bonds to add to our bills so they can spend more.  No where except in the US does this keep our credit rating up.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, that pesky constitution…

    • Tyke

       LePage thought he could tell it to kiss his butt and ignore it.

      oops

  • Guest

    With the price of divorce these days…………………….I think they could “give” back some of their time. On another note……………when people say guilty ……..stop giving them a trial anyway. The judicial system needs a serious overhall. I’m all for capping the price of a divorce in this state. That is a lose lose situation for the two people involved. Attorneys make waaaaaaaaaaay too much dragging out a divorce for a year. NO I didn’t pay an attorney for a divorce……..but know many and it doesn’t seem to happen until the attorneys have wracked up a $20,000 bill first.

    • Anonymous

       It’s usually a lose for the man only.Try and find a woman who pays child support vs. those breeders living high on the hog with our tax dollars and who got there with the help of the pro life thugs.

  • Guest

    Time to tax Alcohol.. $1.00 per beer $5.00 for hard liquior and Wine.
    In Bars/Pubs (whichever name makes you feel better)   it should be $2.00 per beer and $8.00 per hard drink.
    We could give the money to the courts and jails considering they are full of people who commited crimes while drinking
    Anyone who believes a lifestyle of Pub jumping is cool doesn’t know anything about life.

    • Anonymous

       Alcohol is already heavily taxed and regulated and Prohibition was a disaster for everyone except corrupt cops and criminals.
      People don’t need alcohol to be dumb.The way to fix the court system is let out all the potheads who never bothered  a soul and put in the REAL criminals(Cheney,Bush,etc.)

  • Conley Raye

    The Lawyers who take these cases, for the most part should be working for someone else or changing career’s. They don’t have real client’s because, they just are not very good. 

    • Tyke

       Every major law firm I know of already  donates significant pro bono hours to those who cannot pay.

  • Anonymous

    As some have already mentioned — yes, the system needs an overhaul.

    Some law enforcement and those in the judicial system deserve credit for their work; they have integrity and are professionals.

    But observation reveals there is, without doubt, corruption in both branches which fuels the money side of the equation. Some police officers in Brunswick have filed falsified reports, disregarded bias/hate crimes as well as a Maine Superior Court Order. Most people seem to know that police officers can’t or shouldn’t by laws, including the Constitution, simply remove legally-placed no-trespassing signs then enter a residence without want, warrant — nothing– and threaten the property owner in connection with a town-filed civil suit. But these illegal police actions have occurred. When a prosecutor participates in filing a falsified report with a Brunswick police officer, there’s little doubt that something’s very corrupt in the “system”.

    It’s not a leap to say it seems a distinct possibility that many others can be charged with crimes they did not commit. So isn’t it also possible to think this is another money-making scam where attorneys have ample opportunity to get their hands into numerous pockets including the taxpayers’?

    The cycle keeps repeating … with people incarcerated… more attorneys needed for appeals, etc.

    Not much observed of this system gives faith that justice is served; especially when there seem to be no consequences for some of those in law enforcement and prosecutors engaged in misconduct. And why feel good about “duty” as a grand jury participant when an assistant to an ADA appears to show disdain for a grand jury indictment in saying, “They’d indict a ham sandwich.” Really?….This is what they think of the citizens who are compelled to participate?

    Much of what appears to be going on is a dog and pony show– with people who shouldn’t be in the system and easy access to the money.

  • Anonymous

    Jack up the fines and make sure that EVERY DIME of these fines are paid ASAP.If I screw up my credit or miss a payment,my life is a living hell from bill collectors.Why not the same in the court system?

  • Guest

    The solution is simple! Maine needs to enact and enforce the death penalty and we will quickly see a decline in criminal activity.  Repeat offenders are enjoying the slap on the wrist and free ride from the State of Maine. I personally am sick of seeing the same names in the police report. If these people aren’t going to shape up and be contributing members of society then why keep them alive? They are wasting precious resources that they quite frankly don’t deserve!! Another thought is that the state needs to check into one’s inability to pay… if they can afford drugs they can afford an attorney!

    • Anonymous

      Do a search an look at the cost of a death penalty it a million dollars an over per case

    • Tyke

       It hasn’t worked anywhere else where they have the death penalty so why would you think it would here?

  • Lord Whiteman

    Legalize and tax pot. Then use some of that money to fiance these types of unfunded mandates for the poor.

  • Lord Whiteman

    “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right . . . to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution 

     Unless Paul  Lepage wants to ignore the US constitution the same way he ignores the Maine constitution he will have to come up with the money.

  • Guest

    ….

  • This is not fair to the people who work in those positionsas public defenders. If it’s a consecutive thing yearly, that there is not enough funding to provide them sustainance for at least a month or so, then it’s time to re-balance that budget. How about monthly finance charge for those unable to pay their fines? This will help offset the cost of paying for a lawyer that likely represented them. NOTHING else in life comes free, why should they not have to pay a penny for their representation.

  •  Nothing here more than propaganda to petition for more unneeded  funding.  I recommend going and sitting in a court room all day and watch them rake in 1000s in fines. 
    Every class D and E crime in the State of Maine where a defendant pleads not guilty is automatically deprived of their 5th and 14th Amendment Rights.
    Not one District Attorney, in the State of Maine, will comply with Maine Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 16 and automatically provide discovery within 10 days of initial arraignment.
    If people start paying attention and learn to know their Bill of Rights, they won’t need a public Defender.
    Discovery, as defined by MRCrimP Rule 16, is your property, guaranteed by Maine Law.  People who plea not guilty in Class D and E Crimes and who have not yet obtained an attorney are Deprived of that property without Due Process of Law.
    The ACLU will not take this case on because they will loose money in the long term.

  • Anonymous

    Plea bargain, even if you are innocent via rogue cops… Don’t think it don’t happen… ☺

  • I’ll remind folks of the 6th Amendment to our nation’s Constitution:

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

    That last phrase, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence, is what this is about. The State has an obligation to provide adequate legal council to those charge in its courts that cannot provide for their own.

    If you object to that, then work to repeal that amendment.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s clear this up right away.  Each citizen charged with a grime has the right to legal counsel.  And if he or she cannot afford counsel, the court must appoint one free of charge.  That’s a citizen’s right as interpreted by the Supreme Court.

    The first issue before us is whether the pay scale is appropriate compensation for an attorney in defending each of the mentioned accusations.  The second is how to pay for it.

    I would argue the compensation schedule is appropriate; it’s probably a little low.

    i would argue that faulty budgeting is the real case of this shortfall.

    So let’s talk about the budget our legislature and governor have passed.  That’s the real issue.

  • Anonymous

    Over paid, over spending, ect… it never ends.

  • HowdyNeighbor

    The state gives instant welfare to indigents so they are encouraged to come to Maine. Even if you taxed all the wealthy citizens 100%, it isn’t enough and isn’t a sustainable system. High taxes + free food and housing for new criminal residents, like sex offenders = business owners (like us) leaving the state and taking ALL their revenues with them (like we did).

  • Guest

    Public PRETENDERS are a joke anyway…..If your going to get in trouble…Know the LAW…

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