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  • kcjonez

    Short version–Politics before people Paul strikes again.  What a selfish and narrow minded man.  

    • StillRelaxin

      Makes one wonder how many times the legislature will have to tell him, “We don’t care what you want Paul, you ain’t getting it!” Maybe he’ll begin to understand when our votes next November leave him with only Democratic legislators to cry and stomp his chubby feet at?  He’s already a Lame Duck leader, after November he’ll be “metaphorically” a political dead duck.  Then no one will even bother to listen to him go quack-quack-quack for the next two years.

      • Tyke

         I predict that LePage will cut and run like that other half term quitter governor form Alaska after Republicans lose the legislature.

        As Governor King once famously noted, the only power he had as governor to do something without legislative approval was to set the herring catch limit.

        LePage is going to be seriously hamstrung and he has already been throwing about an average of one temper tantrum a week with Republicans in control of the entire government.

        With a Democratic legislature will also come their choices for Secretary of State, Treasurer and Attorney General. The Sate Auditor’s term will be up too and that appointment will certainly be someone the Democratic majority expects to take a long hard look at the LePage administration!

        The spoiled brat currently occupying the Blaine House is just not man enough to deal with that kind of pressure.

        • Anonymous

          I’m voting for the man, yes LePage.  My vote cancels yours.   There goes your TELETUBBY UTOPIA dreams. HAHHAHA.

          • Anonymous

            You sound just like the kind of voter he wants.

          • Anonymous

            Yawn

        • Not Takin It No Moe

          Nice partisanship there, Tyke.

          It’s that sort of idiocy which has us right where we are today: On the verge of bankruptcy and unable to attract businesses.

          Try to make Maine your priority instead of the parties, and maybe we’ll see some wisdom.

          • Tyke

            Nice attempt to change the subject there, NTINM

            My absolute disgust with LePage’s mean spirited lack of respect for anyone else and his blatant incompetence is not partisan. In fact I have been a registered Republican for almost 6 decades now!

      • Anonymous

        Does he govern Daffy or Donald?

        • StillRelaxin

          That’s hard to say these days.  The only ones fer sure that are still being led by Paulie are probably those two family members he’s put to work on the taxpayer’s dime who follow his lame duck waddle in and out of the Blaine House.

        • Anonymous

          Disney turned him down as an understudy for Donald Duck.

      • Anonymous

        Let’s hope they show us they really will override it or just give in to some of what he wants.

        • Anonymous

          They are being watched more closely than ever before.  If they give in to this incompetent, they can kiss their seats good-bye.  Remember November.

      • Not Takin It No Moe

         I did not vote for LePage last time. In fact, I was very vocal about the fact that I thought he would not do what he was promising.

        I will be voting for him next election. He has proven he will do what he says.

        So many Mainers are stuck in the little box that says that the government has to take care of everything. That is not the case, and the sooner Mainers get that through their collective heads, the better.

        Where are the churches, the already-filled-with-tax-money nonprofits, the individuals who donate to food pantries and such? It is OUR responsibility to take care of the poor, not the governments, and anyone who does not see that is either a reckless fool or a graduate of government schools!

        Go, Governor!

        • Anonymous

          WE are the government.

    • poormaniac

      Re read the article , it looks more like people before politics !

      • kcjonez

        Yup–Lauren & ALEC.  

        • Anonymous

          Don’t forget the Maine Heritage Policy Center and his brother in law.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, his “bro” LeDoux, who can now proudly be a part of the “LeDon’t” family.

    • Anonymous

      He’s doing what us working people wanted, we’re tired of the free loaders the state has made. Good job Mr. LePage

      • Anonymous

        When unemployment is at 7% for 3 years, it’s more than a case of freeloaders. But by all means let’s cut the safety net for everyone to ensure there is no fraud. The welfare queen argument has been beat into the ground. Go read a book or look at some economic indicators to provide yourself with more than the tripe you’re selling. 

        • Anonymous

          Unemployment in Maine has been very high for the past 50+ years. With the amount of folks on Welfare and on Unemployment out numbering folks who work and pay taxes.  That is unsustainable Democrats refuse to see that Maine has a huge problem that needs to be fixed, but refuse to make the changes that are needed.

          • Anonymous

            Maine currently has the second lowest unemployment rate in New England. 

          • Anonymous

            The folks on welfare and unemployment out number those of us working?  Wow.  This is a problem.  I’ll bet that every last one is on one drug or another.  But I have to wonder,…what is the other 92.1% doing to pay their taxes?  You and “Bill” are not the only one that pays taxes that go to helping people out.  Guess that makes me a willful liberal.

          • Anonymous

            If this governor would really concentrate on doing what he said he would do, create jobs ,really good paying jobs, then we would see those people paying taxes also. They pay in and get a return. If our unemployment rate is only in the 7% range then we have 93 % employment, the they must be paying taxes. He wants to destroy unions which help provide good paying jobs with good benefits and replace them  with jobs of low wag and little benefit jobs so his rich friends may do even better. His version of getting welfare cheats off the roles is to just cut as many as he can. He doesn’t mind taking people who really need this just to get those who cheat. Thousand to get a hundred or so.
            The same philosophy use to stop “vote fraud”. Make sure thousand  to on the national level millions so that you may stop 10 or so. Or In  Maine hundreds of “ghost voters”. Give tax breaks to those who least need them, create huge  deficits while doing so, and then use that as an excuse to implement what you wanted , destroy the social safety net for thousands. I’m proud to see the we I Maine aren’t taken in by the tea party bull like people have in other states. Time for the ballot box to speak is fast approaching and I don’t think the gov will like that it’s going to have to say.

          • Anonymous

            Gees, aroostookme, you make too much sense.  Those LePlague supporters don’t know how to interpret intelligent, sensical comments. All their little sponge brains can do is soak up and repeat the lies coming from their like-minded friends…”elitist” “entitled” “fraud…”you name it.

          •  And the best way to make things better is to create jobs first, then when there is enough jobs, then you can use words like freeloaders, till then CAN IT BOY!!

          • Anonymous

            The budget was passed in committee and on both floors in a compromising, bi-partisan manner.   Which means that the Republican’s in the legislature,  you know, the party that has a majority in both houses?,  passed this unanimously.  There is no one person, or one branch of government with absolute power in government,  absolute power belongs right where it is,  the voting booth.

            If he keeps going,  he is seriously hurting the Republican Party’s opportunity to compete in the 2014 gubernatorial race,   did you ever think of that?

          • Guest

            I know unemployed rednecks who bemoan their taxes and yet dump all over any job opportunity I point out to them. And they will vote for Sire LePage and his crew. Go figure. I don’t know any libs who act like this. They have taken some pretty ordinary jobs.

        • You know what?  When you are unemployed, its time to look for and get a job, any job at all.  And learn a trade so that you are marketable to prospective employers.  No one owes anyone a living or a safety net.

          • Anonymous

            Go find one for your old Granny, entitled.  Maybe it’s time to put all the old, weak, and frail back to work, too.  And let’s be sure we force all the morons to work, too, and yes, that includes all the
            sponge-brained tea partiers.

          • Anonymous

            even if no one is “entitled” to a safety net (many moral thinkers would disagree), it is in our own interest to provide one.  Poverty breeds crime.. simple as that.

      • Anonymous

        Boy, the Moon Bats are all over this one! Your’s is one of a few sane comments.

      • Anonymous

        Yes, let’s do what the “leader” says.  Let’s not think it through, let’s just trust him. 
        I hope when your property tax goes through the roof, you lose your home.  Ever think of that?
        Think Paulie will be there for you then?

      • Anonymous

        This is part of what I received in a newsletter today.. Makes sense to me !!  Go Paul … Keep fighting for us !

        As Maine residents, we face another deadline this year – it’s a deadline for financial sanity – and it looms large on our calendar later this week.

        Yesterday Governor LePage used the line item veto on the recently passed state budget. His reasoning for the veto was simple: General Assistance welfare spending has grown out-of-control.

        Does this shock anyone?

        General Assistance welfare spending has more than doubled over the past five years, from $6.7 million in fiscal year 2008 to a projected $14.3 million in fiscal year 2013. Some communities currently receive 90% reimbursement from the state, others receive only 50%.

        With the state picking up the tab for 90% is there any incentive for these communities to tighten their belts or encourage people to move from dependency to independence and greater self worth?

        More than 90% of General Assistance spending pays for housing, yet we have numerous other state programs, and an entire quasi-state agency dedicated to providing housing. How much welfare spending is enough?

        If Maine communities have long-term housing needs, they should work with Maine Housing and DHHS and use existing welfare programs. General Assistance is
        not and was never intended to be an ‘Affordable Housing’ program.

        General Assistance should not be an ‘add-on’ program to bulk up benefits to recipients already receiving other state welfare benefits like TANF.

        General Assistance should be a short-term safety net to those who suddenly face hardship, it should not be an economic development tool for Maine communities, or a way of life for Maine people.

        • Anonymous

          Another point:

          “And, how many times have we seen headlines in recent years that the ‘state will be forced to repay federal government‘ for improper billing, ineligible services, etc.?

          Well, we will do it all over again if the current budget passes as it stands.  The other reason for Governor LePage’s vetoes is that the Appropriations Committee was clearly told that we cannot draw down federal funds for hospital patients facing criminal charges, but they included it in the budget anyway.

          Any responsible administration would be forced to veto this line – especially knowing that taxpayers will be on the hook for future repayments for misspent funds.

    • No, he is actually attempting to fix Maine’s budget, something democrats and apparently republicans in Augusta refuse to do.  Politics before people is exactly what the legislature is doing and has always done.  Open your eyes.

      • Anonymous

        Fix the budget?     really?    Given the fact as to how he handled himself with DHHS before the legislature,   I think they did the right thing,  why would they believe any information he provides.   Open YOUR eyes!,   they don’t believe him, they don’t trust him,  and they have had enough.  

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like Paul Le Rage is rather mad at the legislators. He insists on getting the last word. 

  • Anonymous

    Paul will only sign anything if there is something in it for him.  Otherwise he doesn’t care.
     

    • Anonymous

      I see. You’ve spoken to him personally?

      • Anonymous

        Maybe  YOU could get us an appointment?

      • Anonymous

        One doesn’t need to speak to him personally.  His narrow minded shallowness is quite apparent.    

      • Guest

        Choke….

      • Anonymous

        That was a lame response.   

  • Superuser23

    Another episode of “Paul didn’t get his way”

  • Anonymous

    what a sneaking buzzard.

    • fourCatssoon

       What did you expect from a guy that will go down in Maine history as the “Worst” Governor ever in Maine. Write this down please – Worst Governor ever!

      • Anonymous

         He’s miles better than Baldacci.  Baldacci gave away state assets to connected Dem insiders, didn’t pay the bills and “balanced” the budget with one gimmick after another.  It’s difficult to be worse than that.

        • While Baldacci was no icon, his lost hair would make a better leader than who ever is behind the curtain trying to control Lepage.

          • Anonymous

             Leader?  Baldacci wouldn’t even pay the bills.  Were you asleep for the 8 years of the failed Baldacci administration Rip Van Winkle?

  • Anonymous

    “Methinks” people should start respecting our governor more.  He is more concerned for Mainers than we have seen from other leaders in the past.

    • Anonymous

      Respect is earned, not commanded.  He has done nothing to earn anyone’s respect but for a few tea partiers who are cut from the same cloth.

    • Tyke

       If by “Mainers” you actually mean two billionaire brothers from another state, then yeah – that’s exactly where his loyalty lies.

      • About like Chellie’s husband, huh?

        • Tyke

          He is a Maine resident, voter and taxpayer.

    • Guest

      Gawly, I’ll call him sire from now on!

      • Tyke

         Liar is a better term for Lepage than sire.

    • Anonymous

      You can’t be serious.  I have absolutely zero respect for LePew.  If he turned himself inside out and shat golden nickels, I’d still have no respect.  From his first day in office, he’s done nothing to ever earn my respect.

  • Anonymous

      11 / 6  /2012

  • Anonymous

    The man is completely blind to, or just doesn’t care, how some of our citizens live.  To cut funding for the elderly and disabled is totaly uncalled for; but of course he doesn’t care.

    • Anonymous

      The savings can be used as a tax cut for the wealthy.

      • Anonymous

         Hard to give the poor an  income tax cut when they don’t pay income taxes.

        • I work full time plus, pay income taxes, always have and am certainly poor. So  you are wrong like all subjective republicans. Abig paint brush is not always the best choice non kind sir.

    • Guest

      That’s what you don’t understand…..he’s trying to PROTECT the Elderly and disabled and assist those who are truly needed…He wants to make sure there is enough money to cover programs for those in need.  Keep it the same ol same ol, welfare will truly end.

      • Anonymous

        Well, you certainly have bit hook, line, and sinker.  How about we use the millions he gave away in tax breaks for a precious few to protect our poor and elderly?    

      • Anonymous

        Right. LePage is all about helping the less fortunate. Sure he is.

        • Anonymous

          He has said that even when he was running for office that Maine should only pay for those who truly need the programs.  Not having every person who wants a handout continuing to get one.  It is unaffordable , Maine can not sustain that level of people on these programs.  It bankrupts the state , it hurts job creation and brings in the worst of the worst types of people who not only want handouts but it increases fraud in those programs.

          • Anonymous

            I’m sure.

          • Anonymous

            Who will decide who truly needs help?  Him?  There are a lot of people in this state who have exhausted their unemployment and now, thanks to LePage, have nothing.  What would you suggest they do? Rob a bank?  Live on the street? maybe just curl up and die.  You said yourself there that this is a high unemployment state.  Teapotty mentallity dictates that we ignore the ones who need help to protect the bank accounts of the rich!  Must be you are rich or just naive to that fact.  LePage has no intention of giving anything back to the working man.  He has already demonstrated his distain for the ones who get the job done.

      • Anonymous

        If you really believe that, I’ve got a bridge I want to sell you!

        • Anonymous

          Gawd, they’re so easy, it’s scary, isn’t it. gsgofer?   Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see how LePew slid in so easily, after he sold them his bill of goods.

      • Anonymous

        He’s trying to enact the ALEC national agenda in Maine, and it is sickening.  And come November, his party will pay bigtime at the voting booth.

      • Anonymous

        Well, Lady, when your luck has run out (as it soon will), try explaining that to your local property tax collector, when you’re about to lose your home because of LePew passing all those costs on to YOU.
        Why is it so hard for people to learn that because Maine municipalities are mandated by law to have General Assistance, his cutting support at the state level means that it’s going to now be YOUR responsibility, whether you like it or not.

        Read the above, repeat it, read it again, repeat it…until you understand.

        • Anonymous

          Huh? Do you really think that the monies for these programs currently appears out of thin air?
           Comments like these sure won’t help further your cause.

          • Anonymous

            Thank you for providing proof that one can lead a republican to facts, but you sure can’t make them think.

          • Anonymous

            Facts? The fact is ALL Gov programs are paid for by us. This is what an independent such as myself finds so amusing about people polarized by party lines, it seems they can no longer think for themselves. Yes, this applies to both parties.

  • Guest

    >>>>

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Eliot Cutler.  You ought to be tarred and featherd.    

    • Anonymous

      Libby Mitchell was the spoiler. Blame the numb skulls who voted for LeRage,  not Cutler.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t agree.  He had no business jumping into that election cycle.  He blew it.

        • Anonymous

          Are you serious? Anyone who can get enough signatures can have their named placed on the ballot. The Democratic party blew it because they did not produce a strong enough candidate and in the final days when it was apparent she was in third place, Libby Mitchell should have walked away. 

          I would not want to live in a country where people are not allowed to run for office because people from another party think that they shouldn’t. I’m sick of Democrats and Republicans so I was hoping that someone in the middle might be better, as did many others in this state.

          • Anonymous

            I am well aware of the process and I don’t question it at all.  What I question in this case is his judgement.  He was never going to move enough democrats to his side because they are loyal to their party and their causes.  He couldn’t win with just independents. He knew that but imprudently what ahead anyway.   His political naievete or arrogance, whatever it was, is what we are living with now.   

    • notateapartier

      It was Libby Mitchell’s 19% that did it. Well that’s not true. It was the people who listened to that garbage, “a vote for Cutler is a vote for LePage.”, who didn’t vote for him when they knew he would be the better governor. 1.4% makes such a difference.

      • Anonymous

        He had no business jumping into that race.  His judgement to do so was wrong because the timing couldn’t have been worse.  He did it because he is an opportunist of the worst sort.  Libby Mitchell would certainly have been preferred over LePage by a majority of the Maine electorate.  The bottom line is he split the vote and the end result is a disaster for the State of Maine.    

        • Tyke

           It is not certain that Mitchell could have won even without Cutler in the race. I voted for Cutler and I would have voted for Moody over Mitchell in a heartbeat.

          • Anonymous

            It is not certain that she wouldn’t have either.  In a two person race against LePage she would have won.  Republicans are the minority in this State.  The only way they win a governorship is by democrats crossing over or independents.  The polls at the time suggested neither were going to go with the tea party. I firmly believe they would not have.  LePage won by default because Cutler jumped in with poor numbers.     

          • Anonymous

            You actually think Libby would have won! Don’t you have a clue why LePage is Governor?People wanted change, now it’s happening the Dems want all their FREE entitlements back.

          • Anonymous

            Mr LePage won because it was a three way race and Mr Cutler ran out of time. Mr LePage received 38 % of the vote which gave him the most votes not a majority. It is time that the State require a cantidate win by a majority or there is a run off between the top two cantidates and one them must gain a majority vote to be elected. Got tell you that with the short time Mr Cutler ran for the office and Mr LePage’s vote count I am not so sure he would have won in a run off.

          • Anonymous

            Plain and simple, LePage won because he got the most votes. Period, end of story! There was three parties running, not two. The Dem got 19% for a reason. How do you run out of time in an election?

          • Anonymous

            Didn’t Culter gain more votes than Mitchell? Poor numbers? It seems it was Mitchell who had poor numbers.

          • Anonymous

            Not when he jumped in, and that was my reference.  He bashed her negatively and moved a lot of her support to his side granted.  His only hope was to split the democrats and independents and his judgement in doing so was wrong in my opinion.  Obviously we are living with the results of his selfishness.  As a democrat, he should have respected their votes to nominate her as their candidate.  He is a rogue.   

          • notateapartier

            Oh please. Cutler ran a clean campaign, while the democrats made that wonderfully trashy website, cutlerfiles.com and sent out equally trashy fliers in the shape of an evil fortune cookie.

          • Tyke

            There are many Democrats I would vote for in Maine depending on who they were running against. Libby Mitchell is not one of them.

          • Anonymous

            You’re whining about Romney hiding taxable accounts and you voted for Cutler! hahaha good one Tykey.

        • Anonymous

          She split the vote. When it was apparent that it was a two way race in the days leading up to voting day, Mitchell should have stepped down. She and the Democratic party blew the election, certainly not a citizen who followed the law and was a legitimate candidate for office.

          If he had not been in the race, I would have voted for anyone but LePage and Mitchell.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t agree with you at all.  The democratic nominee who won her parties endorsement in an election should have stepped aside for a rogue who wasn’t nominated by a soul?  She showed conviction and loyalty to her party.  He did not.

      • Anonymous

         Now you know how we felt when Baldacci got elected with 38% of the vote.  Worst governor ever.  He didn’t even pretend to balance the budget.  He just didn’t pay the bills. Compared to Baldacci LePage is a genius.

  • Anonymous

     Games, games and more games from LePage.

  • Anonymous

    A disgustingly partisan, mean-spirited move that serves only one purpose – it makes the Tea Party bosses happy.  This does nothing for the State.

    • Guest

      He’s governor only because we didn’t elect someone else. I guess it serves us right, but it’s a bitter pill. I can not believe that Libby would have been worse, and I’m convinced that Cutler would have been better.

      • Anonymous

         The voters disagreed.

        • Anonymous

          this voter didn’t. cutler!

          • Anonymous

             Just another 1%er.

        • Guest

          Depends on how you look at it. Seems the numbers favor me. Now, if they had been focused, we would have a majority governor, for a change, with a legislature of the opposite party. Looks like Sire LePage will get to show us how to handle that setup.

        • Anonymous

          The sane vote was split.  Otherwise, LeBuffoon would never have “won” and everyone knows it.

          •  It’s time for your anger management appointment

          • Anonymous

             Why shouldn’t people, be angry?

          • Anonymous

            Who’s teaching it?  Old pout and puff Paulie LePew?

      • Anonymous

        Actually Cutler would have been like Mitchell the only reason Cutler was behind Welfare Reform because he was losing votes to LePage.  He is another crony of the Wind Power folks , Angus King would have made out like a bandit under his energy policies.

        • Anonymous

          Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh those “Wind Power Folks!  LOL. I didn’t realize he’s one of those!

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, that terrible cutting edge wind power development that has a chance to help take us away from foreign oil and where Maine has a chance to become a national leader.  How awful.  No, let’s just keep kneeling at the alter of your oil company masters.  Poor oil millionaires. Then need more mansions. Now there’s  a good plan.

  • Anonymous

    One thing you have to say for “Duckie” LePage is that he doesn’t give up easily. 

    • Tyke

       Lame Duckie?

  • Think about this…legislature just removed the advocates for the cognitively disabled, the intensive case managers for mental health and homeless, decreased beds at Dorothea Dix and thousands will be removed from Mainecare which will lead to a decrease in mental health and substance abuse treatment. LEGISLATURE just approved these measures folks, with DHHS’s urgings/blessings. 

    However, I do agree with the governor’s plan to decrease dependence on general assistance. Why should the taxpayers be paying for rooms/motels when shelters can be utilized? Frankly, this function should be turned over to charitable organizations, anyway. Get it out of the municipalities hands…

    Lock your doors…twice.

    • All of what you say might have merit. On the other hand, is it possible that those able-bodied people deprived of MaineCare and other benefits might just look for a job that will pay for what they need, because the state is no longer giving them a hand-out?

      Not everyone taken off MaineCare is in need of services.

      • Anonymous

        “Not everyone taken off MaineCare is in need of services.”
        That is not true.  They wouldn’t have been on the rolls if they hadn’t qualified.  And Marcia is absolutely correct.  The costs have been shifted to those who absolutely cannot afford our current system which is draconian.     

      • Anonymous

        And just who are you to say who does and does not need services? Do you know every single person/family that loses Mainecare. Careless and sad commentary from someone who clearly thinks she knows more than she does.

    • Anonymous

      The story says LePage wanted to limit general assistance’s housing assistance to 90 days, without exceptions.

      Think of this: Someone has been living in the same apartment for several years and develops a disability that makes that person unable to work. Eventually, that person’s savings are used up paying for rent and utilities. The person applies for Social Security.

      If it’s true that LePage would cut off housing assistance from general assistance after 90 days, the person in my scenario would lose EVERYTHING, as it takes years to get Social Security. How can any decent person think this would be OK?

      • Tyke

         Ah I found an error in your reasoning.

        You seem to believe that LePage and his minions may in fact be Decent people. Therein lies your error.

      • jimbobhol

        Someone  like that could be taken care of and when they get their Social Security back payments they can pay back the State.  Don’t see anything wrong with that.

        • Anonymous

          The only thing wrong with that is that it is not part of the LePage gameplan.  That’s Tyke’s point.

          • jimbobhol

            Maybe but we have State Senators and Rep. that can make laws. Remember he’s not a King as many on here think.

          • Anonymous

            He’s the one who thinks he’s King, not the many on here.

          • Anonymous

            We already have existing laws regarding the issue that they enacted.  He just doesn’t happen to agree with them.  The good news is that they are taking exception to his “fix.”

        • Anonymous

          Unfortunately, that is now how current law works.

  • Anonymous

    We’ve all heard of a smart aleck…well, Paulie is a Stupid  ALEC !

  • Anonymous

    How dare the governor insist on cuts in welfare spending! This system has worked well for 40 years  and  we still have a few folks
    standing with money in their pockets that can be picked, so why in heck try to change things now?!

    • fourCatssoon

       Because that is what the Koch brother instructed him to do, not serve the best interest of the people in our state. He is a shame to the office of Governor .

      • Anonymous

        Oh please every person who ran in the General Election for Governor with the exception of Liberal Mitchell all proposed cutting Welfare and Spending.  The only shame Democrats should have is to keep thinking going back to the same old same old is what Mainers want.  No what Mainers want is getting away from the Maine Democrat Party’s Socialist Economic Policies , and Sick and Perverted Social Policies.

    • Anonymous

      Please stop trying to blame the demise of the economy on the poor.  We were doing just fine until the republicans enacted corporate welfare.  What was supposed to “trickle down” was instead deposited in off shore bank accounts to avoid american taxes.  It was also shipped to third world countries where slave labor is rampant, along with our jobs.  Instead of creating more american jobs and raising the middle class and the poor as promised, we ended up bailing big corp out before they sank the ship completely.  We are in more need now than ever to give our poor a helping hand.  There are more of them and the poverty level is the highest it’s been since Hoover.  Thanks for nothing republicans!   

      • Anonymous

        Really do you think the Maine Democrat Party’s policies and their agenda from 1973-2010 was good for Maine. Because Maine is dead last economically , top 3 in Welfare States , 27 th in Education and dropping , while having some of the worst roads  in the country.  If that is what Democrats think is the Way Life Should Be in this state they can have it.

        • Anonymous

          Yes I do believe Maine has been well managed over the years.  It has been a bi-partisan effort for the most part by the way.  Maine’s economy went the same way as every other states’ did after GW got through with us.  Also, we haven’t chosen to compete with what you consider the “top” states that you  compare us to with your numbers.  Their quality of life is horrendous.  They are over populated cess pools where people escape from to come to “vacationland.”  Maine has historically been one of the most desirable places to live because we protect our lands, our water, and our people.  You forgot to mention one number.  We have the second lowest unemployment rate in New England.

          • Anonymous

            Hahha Bipartisan sure it has.  The Democrats are fooling you folks.  They ran Augusta for years with no ideas but only theirs.  They cut off anyone in the Legislature who disagreed with them. You go to Augusta and go into a committee hearing on something they would used to have Libby Mitchell, John Martin, Both Pingrees (Chellie and Hannah while in Augusta) , Bev Daggett , Bethany Edmonds ,  Emily Cain, Peggy Rotundo, etc. always there to see who was testifying against the Democrat Agenda.   If you disagreed with them they would find out who you were and try to find ways to make life miserable for those in opposition.  They did it to Greens, Republicans, Independents, Business leaders and to working folks.  That is why folks in Maine hate Augusta have felt that way for decades.  Because the Democrats are the reason Maine is in the toilet economically.  Mainers feel a sigh of relief not having to worry about what the Democrats are going to do to hurt them.

          • Anonymous

            The bottom line is that every initiative came down to a final vote in both bodies.  If it became law then it was by majority.  You can’t say that the republicans never voted in the affirmative to enact laws all the years when they were the minority because that would not be true.  There was a reason they were in the minority.  The majority of Maine agreed with the majority in the legislature.  That is why they voted them back in year after year after year.  I don’t believe you will see the current majority last much longer because what they are doing does not reconcile with the majority of Maine voters.

          • Anonymous

            Right!!!.  Wrong the only reason Democrats are in power is because Democrats are good at buying voting blocks with their Welfare Programs and handouts to their Special Interest buddies.  When you are getting a handout from Government sure your going to vote to keep the folks giving you freebies in power.  You aren’t going to vote for Republicans , Independents, Tea Party, Greens when they all want to stop the handouts and move to more freedom and pro-business agenda.  Democrats are going to do the same they are running on the same policies they had for decades they are doing so now at every press conference, public citizen meetings.  Maine can’t afford to have Democrats back in power because it will anger the working folks even more.

          • Anonymous

            The Dems had 40 years to create the demographics in Maine to support their cause in Augusta which reaffirmed their existence. By traveling around the states, one will see the varying reasons why people vote the way they vote. People in the “County” are going to vote Democrat for different reasons that someone in Portland will vote Democrat. Coastal, southern, and northern democrats all have very different motivating reasons to vote the way they do. I have no doubt that Toms statement about republicans being in the minority is true. The Dems have had a long time to mold the state to what it is today economically and socially.  

          • and thanks to the current GOP Kakistocracy Democrats will probably get another so called 40 year reign. I mean listen to them,  and their fox news mouthpieces look at them they are below joke status, its not funny or  reallistic, I say time for drug tests for politicians they are not making sence.

          • Anonymous

            Right, so instead vote for Republicans so they can give the working folks’ money to the job killing corporatists.  See you in November.  The Republicans are TOAST.

          • Anonymous

            Give it up, Tom.  You have entirely too much logic and common sense to be posting here.  :-)

          • Anonymous

            Hehe, just trying to be helpful…  

          • Anonymous

            Most of the sane, sensible comments go sailing miles over their heads, tt. 

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, the tit for tat seems to be a fun sport for some…logic and reasoning  not so much.   

          • Anonymous

            Come November, the corporatist Republicans are going to get thrashed in a serious way, and a bigtime is lid is going to be placed on Mr. LePage and his ALEC agenda.

          • Anonymous

            Remember November!

          • Anonymous

            Well, we used to protect the lands, water and people. But then there was the windpower law, the law to dismantle LURC, the law to allow strip mining on Bald Mountain, the law to require “compensation” for “lost value due to regulations”, the law to give Fairpoint the right to jack up their rates whenever they want — and watch for the next round of laws to strip any authority from DEP to regulate polluters. So much for quality of life.

          • Anonymous

            Your point is taken, but don’t give up.  While our quality of life is certainly under assault currently, it won’t take us long to right the ship.   

          • Anonymous

            Maine also has the lowest per capita income in NE-BY FAR. And close to the highest taxes in the country. It sure is a great quality of life.

          • Anonymous

            Well, I guess you sort of got my point…  You aren’t telling us something we don’t already know.  I don’t want Maine to be like Connecticut, or Massachussetts, or Rhode Island.  Big incomes, crummy states.  Lower taxes, lots more problems.  If you are looking for big incomes and lower taxes and are willing to trade that off for a place like those three to live in, why haven’t you left yet?  Ever notice where most of the license plates are from during the summer months?  You folks just don’t seem to get it…we like it here and like it just the way it is.  We paid big bucks to clean the place up (read:pollution) and we don’t mind paying to keep it that way.  Want industry?  Move south.   

          • Anonymous

            BTW-Maine is third behind NH and MA according the Bureau of Labor stats for Feb 2012.

          • Anonymous

            You must have meant to say Maine WAS third in February.  I was referring to the present. 

        • Anonymous

          Your timeline is off. Scratch out 8yrs of McKernan, scratch of the mid 90’s when the R’s owned both houses. Also, I’s aren’t really Dem’s so scratch off another 8 years.

        • Anonymous

          Good, when are you leaving?

      • Tyke

         Off shore accounts and tax shelters probably explain why Romney will only release his cleaned up tax returns from years when he had already been running for president for quite some time.

        • jimbobhol

          Your idea of a off shore account is a atm machine on a lobster boat and a tax shelter is something your children built in the back yard. Romney is running for the Republican nomination to be the Republican candidate for the U. S. President.    

          • Anonymous

            Now that’s just soooo relevant. 

          • Tyke

            So your answer to a very valid point is essentially to say my mother wears combat boots. OK. That just shows I am right. Thanks

  • Anonymous

    This man is totally off the wall. He needs to be committed!!!

    • Anonymous

      Well can we send John Baldacci, Angus King, Eliot Cutler, Dennis Bailey and the rest of the unintelligent Democrats who have screwed up Maine .  Send them all on the Greyhound Bus that LePage wants to send Welfare Bums in.  I would gladly contribute to that fund. Send some of the Buses south to Massachusetts and the rest to Quebec and New Brunswick Canada.

      • Anonymous

        how about we send  you and the rest of the whiners?  i really wonder how much the complainers actually pay in taxes and what they get

  • Anonymous

    “We took the politics out of
    the budget and the governor is putting his extreme ideology ahead of the best
    interests of Maine people,” said Assistant Senate Democratic Leader Justin
    Alfond   Mr. Alfond is obviously referring
    to the Maine people on general assistance and not the Maine people paying the
    taxes to support them.

    • Anonymous

      Because the only ones who vote are the ones on GA. Right.

      Did you happen to notice the legislative vote totals cited in the article?

  • Anonymous

    This crackpot is unbelievable. He holds his own opinion in higher esteem than the combined wisdom of both branches of the legislature. How arrogant!! “My way or the highway” is the only thing he knows. The House and the Senate represent the people of Maine. Who does this turkey represent?

    • Anonymous

      He represents the lunatic fringe.  Read:teaparty.

    • Anonymous

      Maybe you should take a few classes on government to learn how it works. Veto or not that is his perogative.

      • Guest

        We don’t question how the government works. We are disgusted with how he is working it.

    • Anonymous

      “combined wisdom of both branches of the legislature”…  That’s a pretty low bar to set these days. I think most people would hold their own opionion higher. Especially when, with all their “combined wisdom”, all they can come up with is to keep the gravy train running until we all go broke.

  • Tyke

    OK Legislators, this is a test.

    Either show the courage of your convictions and sustain your original vote by overriding the veto of the bill passed with overwhelming majorities, or

    look for anew job come November.

  • Doesn’t common sense tell you that it’s bad timing to remove services that assist the uninsured? With support services gone, who will assist folks getting free clinic care, pharmaceutical grants, and supports to keep them out of the emergency rooms? The hospitals are going to be in more chaos than they are now.

    • Anonymous

      No common sense is removing Maine from being a State that attracts lazy folks, turning it into a state that promotes opportunity and success.  Democrats think we can continue to have no limits on Welfare that people on Welfare should have lifetime benefits that they should never work.  Maine is broke, Maine taxpayers shouldn’t have to  pay for these lazy people  its time to start making them get jobs  start making them head to the career center.  If we never get a hold on Welfare Maine will be totally broke.

      • I agree, no good, shiffless fraudsters should be weeded out. No one is disputing that.  However, this far reaching passage is throwing out the baby with the bath water. Tell me, who is going to be the Great Oz to determine who’s worthy and who’s not? You know what will happen? The moochers will still get their piece of the pie because they are the most vocal and intimidating. It’s the elderly or sick Mainer who has now been villified and villianized that will do without.  Yeah, the one’s who should be receiving assistance in the first place. The way this process is being accomplished is my beef, as the outcome will not be pretty.

        • Anonymous

          Bingo, great points all.  People who can’t see for forest for the trees are the same ones who are “throwing the baby out with the bath water.”

      • Anonymous

         If we’re so broke, why did we cut taxes?  If I personally have trouble paying my bills I don’t ask my boss to pay me less.

      • Anonymous

        Maine had a 5 year limit on welfare before LePage was elected and we still have a 5 year time limit. No one moves to Maine to get welfare as we pay the lowest of any state in the Northeast. Clients have been required to work, actively seek work or participate in volunteer work for years. The reason for the problem in Maine is because the economy nationally and in Maine tanked under Bush policies and because wages in Maine are among the lowest nationally.

        • Anonymous

          Please stop mucking up their uninformed, biased arguements with facts.  

        • Anonymous

          Snowsox, just for the purpose of clarity, Maine did have a 5yr limit before…kind of. The standing rule of Maine was 60 month plus. Meaning that if a family had less than three sanctions in that first 60mos, they could continue to get TANF past that.
          With the new law they end at 60mos…kind of. There is still a standing rule of “extensions” for time passt 60mos. But it is a more firm rule, as the “extentions” won’t last forever. That is what this new admin has done, it says on one hand that all TANF will end at 60mos, but…
          Meet the new boss…

          • Anonymous

            Any TANF money past 5 years was state money only since the federal limit was 5 years. Since the average time a client spends on TANF is 18 months, those on longer than 5 years are usually disabled, family of an SSI recipient, or the parent of a disabled child. Those few who didnot meet these criteria, had to meet pretty strict requirements to continue receiving beyond 5 years.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, well. That is a nice theory. But there are more than enough people, right now, that are over 100mos on TANF. They are the exception, and not the rule, but they exist, and dollars to donuts they are not all part of households that have disabled people in it. Also, about the post 60mos, I thought I mentioned it was State Funded from 61+.

        • jimbobhol

          Food stamps are federal based on income level. Medicaid based on income. No time limits on these that I know of. Maine just enacted 5 year life time limit on Tanf  Jan. 2012  which is the Federal limit. I like to know what limits your talking about. EDIT 2 parent home possible 5 year per parent….. law is unclear on this.

          • Anonymous

            Any TANF money past 5 years was state money only since the federal limit was 5 years. Since the average time a client spends on TANF is 18 months, those on longer than 5 years are usually disabled, family of an SSI recipient, or the parent of a disabled child. Those few who did not meet these criteria, had to meet pretty strict requirements to continue receiving beyond 5 years.

          • Anonymous

            But even this new law from Jan 2012 has a loophole, there are 7 possible extentions that people at 60 (or more) months can ask for. Since the rule goes into effect after 120 days from the law, the extentions won’t be decided on until after May. Like with everything else in life, the fine print is usually the most important.

      • Guest

        >>>>

      • Anonymous

        Getting back to the subject of the original article. If the republicans wanted to they could pass anything without one single democratic vote. If Darkcat wants to blame anyone for this it has to be the republicans and most of those are tea party supported. The conservatives are the ones who are responsible in this one Darkcat. Sorry you can’t blame the libs this time. Gosh DC it was bad enough when the libs were against you, but now its both the libs and the conservatives. 

        • Anonymous

          He blames Liberals when the Red Sox don’t make the playoffs!!!!! It’s always the Liberals fault!!!

        • Anonymous

          It’s the Democrats who got their way again because the Republicans caved into their demands because they felt sorry for them.  Both parties are spineless they aren’t doing what working Mainers voted for in 2010 and that was change from the awful agenda of the Democrats.  If things were to go back to the Democrats and we get their agenda again trust me working folks will get angry.  Maine will end up bankrupt from the Dems agenda because you will continue to see the exodus of the working person in Maine, or us working folks will go to Augusta and bring in the local conservative talk show hosts and have them lead a revolt.  Mainers don’t want the Democrats past agenda they want change.

    • jimbobhol

      Common sense Danforth, Washington County POP 587 56%  on some form of welfare. 214 foodstamps / 280 Medicaid / 28 TANF These are real numbers.

      • Anonymous

        That number is a snap shot in time.  You make it sound as if people stay on welfare into perpetuity.  The fact of the matter is that the welfare system is very restricted.

        • Anonymous

          You’ve got a lot to learn about the welfare system tomtom.

          • Anonymous

            No I don’t.  I know all I need to know.  Particularly that it is time limited, requires welfare to work, and doesn’t pay enough to live on.    

          • jimbobhol

            Not foodstamps and Medicaid base on income. Tanf  has limits as of  Jan. 2012 60 months life time limit.

          • Anonymous

            “requires welfare to work” what does that mean? And obviously lots are living off it.

          • Anonymous

            You can do your own homework regarding the Welfare to Work requirement under TANF, but in a nutshell one must find work on their own or accept training. It must be completed within a certain period of time.    

          • Anonymous

            Here you go, you can read up on PRWORA.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Work_Opportunity_Act

            There are 27 reference points to further read up on it.

          • Anonymous

            I know a lot about the welfare system having worked there for 31 years and every word he says is correct.

        • jimbobhol

          What town do you live in? I’ ll give you snapshot in time for you. The Internet is wonderful thing.  There’s over 390,000 people in the State that is on some form of welfare right now.

          • Anonymous

            The majority are MaineCare recipients. that is medical insurance, not welfare.

          • Anonymous

            Whatever the number, it is not a permanent one. If correct, that number you cited is a direct result of the closest we’ve come to going down the tubes since 1929.  Why shouldn’t the poor be bailed out?  We bailed out Wall Street and they created the mess.  Where I live is irrelevant other than the fact I am a born and bred Mainer.      

  • Anonymous

    How else can we expect to make Mainers take jobs that pay slave wages if they can fill their pocket deeper by being on the dole. 

    • Anonymous

      Good point.

  • Anonymous

    As I sit here in the 21st century and my life is rolling by I wonder what is the point of reading or watching the news anymore. Everyday I read about political battles, murder, robbery, hate crimes, assaults, corruption, domestic violence, and about 100 more criminal acts. Today is really no different than yesterday or the day before that as a matter of fact. But today I think I have had a small epiphany that I could leave the thrill of reading the newspaper everyday with anticipation that just 1 day we might have a day without any the above and all is right with the world even if for just one second. What a news breaker that would be. But reality comes right back faster than that second and I understand the world is broken and everyday politicians fight about new laws and new government policies when we have so many now that they can not be properly controlled. There are so many loop holes and earmarks tied to every little tiny bill that they can think. One law to be passed today comes with 2000-3000 pages of stuff to take money and move it around in enough of a circle that it goes out the left and comes back usually twice its worth in the right but not back into government coffers but right hand to individual pocket somewher). But that only works in government. In my working life my wage came in my left and I was lucky if I broke even on the right hand but trust me I never made more. My whole life I worked under a principle that as simple as it is I have found out usually works the best. I was born in the fifties, grew up the 60’s, partied through the 70’s and 80’s (I promise I never lied, stole or bothered my neighbors)and I applied my self in the 90’s hoping the 21 st century would be as profitable. My KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid) for those of you to young to remember was our mantra and for a few moments life seemed very good. Then the 21st century though fear to stop the computer world because programmers forgot about the years 1-99 repeating and Y2K had people began to panic no one paid attention as the corruption began to grow in the political agendas and the money was squandered is a nice way to say it but in actuality was stolen. Now look we we all are Certainly not in a better place than the last generation and I fear a better place than for the next generation. Come on people ( I mean people like me not them) stand up, brush yourself off and think this “KISS and lets defeat the evil that is sucking the life out of the good and turn it around.” Their are still more of us than them so we win with no violence because we are more civilized and smarter than that if we put our hearts and minds together. We can sit on the couch and complain or we can stand and say “NO MORE.” Just think about it.

    • Guest

      “Richard II”?

    • Tyke

       It appears you violated your KISS principle here.

  • fourCatssoon

     Yes he was assigned to remove our Mural to make his bosses happy. He does not care for the best interest of the people of Maine.  This man is a shame to the office.

    • Anonymous

      No he just doesn’t care what Liberals think.  He is supporting what working Mainers want when they voted for change in 2010.  That is what is upsetting to Liberals they think we should continue the Welfare Haven and Nanny State that Maine has been for 40 years.   That Maine should have no checks and balances. Well the Liberals aren’t going to have it their way anymore.  The people have spoken loud and clear we want Welfare and Spending cuts , also Major Tax Relief.

      • Tyke

         So you are claiming that no liberals are working Mainers?

        That is beyond bizarre.

        • Anonymous

          Didn’t you hear? Darkcat is the only working and taxpaying Mainer left. Well that is if you listen to Darkcat.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah that must be why folks were leaving Maine for years under Democrats because they were tired of being nickeled and dimed to death under Maine Dems.  That is why folks were leaving for Florida, Texas and Arizona for a few months out of the year to avoid the scam put on by Maine Democrats.  Democrats only care about Welfare Programs and Wind Power scam.  Only those who want handouts will benefit under Maine Dems .  The Maine people aren’t dumb only Democrats think we are. Only Democrats such as yourself think we want to be taxed more so we can give more redistribution of our wealth to Welfare Bums, Environmentalists, Special Interest Groups. You and the rest of the Dems should study the past few elections on Taxes, Gay Marriage, 2010 Election . Because everyone including Blue Dog Dems turned on the Liberal side of the Democrats by voting them into the minority status in 2010.

          • Anonymous

            Darkcat I know that you are living in a different universe, but just in case you missed it the reason people leave Maine, me included, for a few months most of which are in the winter is because we don’t like freezing our butts off. It has nothing to do with any scams believe me. 

          •  Are you a Maine resident or do you stay just long enough to be a Florida resident?

          • Anonymous

            Legal Maine Resident. Own a business, home, pay taxes all in the State of Maine. And unlike your man LePage I actually own property in the State of Maine. 

          • Anonymous

            Ask old LePew…he’s got the system all figured out.

          • Anonymous

            What’s the reason they are still leaving?  Where’s all the jobs the Gov. LePage  promised?

          • Guest

            Every one I know left for weather.

          • Anonymous

            No, Darkcat is a paid shill.  Notice the “word count” paragraphs of comments, the “speaking points” that cause dissent, the contentious remarks and the common, uncommon sense.  

            It’s like a song…call and response, call and response.  Look at the pattern–one of a few aliases that perpetuate the party line without substance…only the rhetoric.

            Realistically, if you don’t respond to him/her, they won’t get paid.

            Set them down for a a while….who needs the frustration!! (let them have it all to themselves)

          • Anonymous

            Darkcat needs to go back to his Fox New…fair and unbalanced

          • Anonymous

            Oh but don’t forget the other two:  LePew’s daughter and his brother-in-law.

        • Anonymous

          Most Liberals in Maine only care about taxing working folks so they can get handouts.  They subscribe to the Obama-Pelosi-Reid way of thinking that Shared Prosperity (AKA Welfare) is how our country and how the State of Maine should be.

          • Anonymous

            Did you see the vote count on this budget? Repubs voted for it too!  That leaves Mr Teapotty out in the cold.

          • Anonymous

            Oh tsk,tsk, gsgofer, stop clouding the issue with facts.  The TPers don’t do well with those things.

        • Anonymous

          Is that why Democrats in Maine are crying for no cuts on Welfare who are Democrats are fooling.  Democrast want more handouts they want no spending cuts. So they can drive out everything that is left so Maine can go bankrupt that will give them reason for their sham park they want so much. They keep talking about.  If Maine goes bankrupt and everything was to leave it gives them good reason to push their park then.

          • Tyke

            Baldacci cut the state budget in his last years and LePage raised it by a half BILLION dollars. LePage is the biggest government, big spending politician of the two. LePage campaigned on eliminating Dirigo Health immediately but over the last few weeks his administration has been buying radio ads seeking even MORE participants.

        • Anonymous

          Haven’t you realized yet that Darkcat is beyond bizarre!!!

          • Tyke

            Sure am beginning to …

      • Anonymous

        Apparently he doesn’t care what a majority of the republicans think either. What do you suppose is upsetting them? Do you really consider less than 40% of the vote  “the people?”  Please.

        • Anonymous

           Less than 40%.  The same number the failed Baldacci administration got.

        • Anonymous

          Explain Angus King getting 35% in 1994. The only reason King won re-election in because he ran against a bunch of lightweights . Not because he was popular as Liberals and the Liberal Maine Media makes people believe far from it.  Baldy didn’t get 50 % each time either 47% in 2002, and only 38% in 2006 .  Baldy was lucky he had time on his side because if Barbara Merrill a Democrat who left her party to become an Independent due to Anger and Dissatisfication with them while in Augusta.  If Merrill had another 10 days she would have won she was climbing fast.   Once people knew who she was and that fact that She, Chandler Woodcock, and Pat Lamarche was exposing Baldy for what he was.  A talentless tax, spend, borrow liberal  government hack who did nothing while in office (Legislature, Congress, Governor) all he did was run to collect a Government Check.

          • Carl Loeffler

            Holy crap. Take off the tinfoil hat, shut off Fox News and go for a walk. You really need to quit drinking coffee and pick up a hobby involving model airplanes or train sets. Once you start to recover, think about moving out of your mom’s basement and get a dog.

          • Anonymous

            Please don’t wish him on a dog.  No sweet canine deserves to be in his miserable life.

      • Anonymous

        Speaking of “checks and balances”…………isn’t that EXACTLY what this legislature is doing now and has been recently?     I can tell that you are upset,   when you put your foot in your mouth, the enunciation for the word “democrats”  comes out sounding like “liberals”….soon any references to non TP republicans will come out sounding like “liberals”!!

    • Reality10

      He doesn’t care because he has  own any property here in Maine, all is in Florida, Canada or who know where else other then Maine. After he is done he is moving out. You 38% got him now live with it, after this legislature he will have no power at all. People want change but they want to be fair about it.

    • Guest

      It must be your Mural because I would not have paid for it… I guess John Baldacci Did with taxpayer dollars..  Must we keep all of John’s stuff… Is John like a God and what he did must stay put for eternity… Go check out the White House or read what Obama sent back to Britan taht was sitting in the white house for years, then get back to me.. 

    • Anonymous

       That paint by number monstrosity was an embarrassment to Maine.

    • Are you still whining about that stupid mural?  Wow, once a liberal cause, always a liberal cause, they just never ever give up.  Keep up the fight and get that picture back on the wall and all of Maine’s problems will be solved.

  • Anonymous

    no mercy with him. hope he doesnt run for bigger office when he is done being a governor

  • Anonymous

    let me fire the last shot 

    • Guest

      careful not to be worse than he is….

      • Anonymous

        he drives people to that point

  • Anonymous

    I can’t see someone in an apartment having a lot of assets to lose. Yeah, catastrophes take their toll but some planning would alleviate that. It didn’t take a close relative years to get SS as you claim but I don’t know your circumstances. It isn’t any different with medicare with an illnesswhere you sign your assets over after a period of time. My dad was within a couple days of that.

  • Monday morning’s House and Senate roll call’s are gonna be very interesting. If LePage thought he had pissed off the Legislature before, he ain’t seen anything yet ! Once the overide vote’s are done, and the budget’s passed despite all of the ‘moosepoop’, Paulie is gonna be getting a serious case of political road rash from the media and the entire Legislature. Using a line-item veto, in the face of an overwhelming vote for the budget, is going to be seen as nothing less than Paulie’s direct smack in the mouth ‘dare you’ to both Party’s leadership’s. If there was one way for LePage to go and publicly start a civil war between the Legislature and the Governor’s Office that could be more partisan and motivating, well, I’d be hard pressed to see it.

    And given Paulie’s now more than evident attitude that he’s using the ‘My way or the Highway’ method of governing, both Party’s had better consider sitting down, putting all of their respective Party’s ‘menusha’ into cold storage and deciding to work together to lead Maine ouuta what’s eventually going to be seen as ‘The Great Maine Footrace to the Polls’. Mainer’s all over the State should be considering just how serious, and widespread, this attitude has spread. Maine has always prided itself on coming together and working any problem the State may have in a reasonable and practical manner. This recent temper tantrum in Augusta gives us all serious cause for concern as to just how practical and reasonable our elected Official’s are prepared to be when Maine’s interests are on the line. The time for collective reasonableness is now here. The only remaining question is are our elected Official’s ready to step up and do what’s neccessary ? And the Monday morning roll call’s are the 1st step.   

    • Tyke

       If Kevin Raye wants to have a ghost of a chance to beat Michaud in November he will rally the troops to override.

      • Anonymous

        If he does that I will not vote for him, I already don’t care for him.

        • Tyke

          So will you vote for Michaud then?

          • Anonymous

            NO, I will just not vote.

          • Tyke

            Thus helping Michaud win.

      • Anonymous

        Apparently the nicest thing I can say about Raye is inappropriate for this forum. I will not vote for someone who is demonstrably unable to speak the truth, and Raye falls squarely into that category.

      • If Paulie’s veto is overidden (and the initial passing vote is already way over what’s needed) it’s not going to be due to Raye. All Raye’s gonna do is jump on the bandwagon and be a headline grabber. Its called being a ‘fingerprinter’ and Washington already has enough of them. Just look at Nelson of Nebraska. He’s been taking credit for supposedly conservative Democratic votes for years. Look where it’s gotten him.

    • I’m hoping that the legislature has the courage to do as Paul has asked them to do.  You should too.

  • Guest

    It’s clear to me why he inc luded it. The man has no social conscience, no sense of decency, no insight into fairness.

  • Tyke

     “shooting out kids”

    You are disgusting

    • Anonymous

      Why? Because it’s the truth? I know lots of people who have 4-5 different kids by 4-5 different daddies. It’s all about the bennies, Tyke, for those people.

      • Tyke

        “shooting” out is an ugly nasty way of saying something that did NOT need to be said in a manner that derogatory towards ALL mothers.

      • Anonymous

        Whoa…you mean as in the 18 kids that were in LePew’s family.  And don’t even try giving me garbage about welfare not existing then…it did, in the form of government food.

  • Anonymous

    We the people don’t want to cut people off  at the legs to please the beancounters on the sidelines. Cutting off poor people has become agenda. Let the legislature come back and override again.

  • Anonymous

    LePage will you give it up???? You have no support. You’re not a “profile in courage”, you’re an embarassment.

    • Anonymous

      Why don’t you say it to his face? Typical coward.

      • Anonymous

        Might have something to do with the fact that LePage only meets with his rich buddies. No one on this forum is going to get a face-to-face with him until he’s out of office and working in the drive-through at McDonald’s.

        • Anonymous

          Again, can you provide a link to a credible link or source? If you are going to make allegations like this the only one who ends up looking stupid is you, not LePage.

          • Anonymous

            All he’s doing Dorfman is causing the state legislature to come back to Augusta and vote to override his veto at a huge cost to taxpayers. He doesn’t care. You’re name calling is a little uncalled for, but I guess it serves to show your desperation and ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    The Governor’s claim that he’s not thinking about the next election is bogus.  He wants to force lawmakers to vote on the items again so it can be used as a campaign talking point this fall.  There’s nothing wrong with that- but he should be honest about it.

  • Guest

    Love it. Go Governor Lepage!

    • Guest

      “Love it” ! What’s to love ?

      • Anonymous

        I guess the tax money he’s wasting by forcing the legislature to override his veto. I can’t believe he still has any support at all.

    • Anonymous

      Yes. Go AWAY, LePage. Far, far away.

  • Welfare queens driving Cadillac Escalades… that’s what LePage wants people to think is rampant in Maine. How droll.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be angry at the poor.  Be angry at the few, greedy rich whom LePage handed big tax breaks to that they happily accepted. It’s called corporate welfare and top to bottom economics.  What is the difference?  Is it because we can afford one that we can’t afford the other?  I’d much rather have my tax dollars going to the poor versus the rich.   

    • Anonymous

      Webba didn’t say anything about the poor, the word was “freeloaders”, there is a big difference that you want to twist to fit your reasoning. But you keep sending your dollars in I’m sure they appreciate your generosity.

      • Anonymous

        If they are on the rolls, they are poor.  That is how they qualify.  How on earth do you or Webba or anyone make a distinction between the two unless you have a crystal ball? If there is fraud absolutely they should be disqualified.   And yes, I am a good citizen, work and pay my taxes, and I am happy to help the less fortunate.  That is how I was raised here in the State of Maine.  What I don’t agree with however is my tax dollars going to the wealthy.  That I have a problem with.

    • jimbobhol

      How did the rich get your tax dollars? Just wondering.

      • Anonymous

        His name is George W. Bush.  Add the name Paul LePage. He seems to hate welfare unless it is corporate.  Then he’s all for it.   

  • Guest

    I hope when Elliot Cutler is Governor, he uses his more refined approach to convince  the citizens of Maine that we’re broke, just like the country as a whole.

    • Guest

      Please don’t be so naive ! the USA is not broke. Fox news, the Koch brothers, the wealthiest 1% and the multi national corporations want you to think we are broke. The fact is we have as much wealth now as at any time in our history . One would have to be a fool to get sucked into that fallacy. Our GDP is higher now than at any time during the Reagan Administration ! Use your God given brain please. You are being used just like Hitler used the Germans.

      • Guest

        I f I had ajob that broght in $2,000.00 a week, but my expenses were $2500.00 my friend s would motre than likely wonder why my car was hauled off would they not? GDP has nothing to do with debt.

    • Guest

      A refined approach to convince the citizens of Maine.. aka,  buffaloing the public.

  • Anonymous

    How are all the poor people supposed to buy Weed, Beer, and Cigarettes if we cut back on TANF and other “general assistance”? How unfeeling it is for the Governor to expect people to go out and work for money when they want to get high. How do you think most of them got so poor in the first place? Besides, cutting back on welfare will put all the drug dealers out of business, so then they will need to apply for TANF too.

    • Anonymous

      Well said.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t forget about Allen’s coffee brandy

    • Anonymous

      Just as a point of reference, you do know the following…
      GA does everything by voucher or paying the vendor.
      TANF has to be diverted from DHHS to the Landlord for GA to pay the difference in rent.
      So there is essentially no more money in their pockets for weed, beer and cigarettes.
      You know all that, right? Why of course you do.
      Think outside of the box, could any of these friends of yours that abuse the system so, be criminals? One of the hardest things for DHHS to prove is criminal activity (drug sales, prostitution) the reason being relatively obvious, in that there isn’t much of a paper-trail.

      • Anonymous

        “TANF has to be diverted from DHHS to the Landlord for GA to pay the difference in rent.So there is essentially no more money in their pockets for weed, beer and cigarettes. You know all that, right?”

        No, that is not right. Maybe in some special cases TANF can go directly to the landlord, but usually it is just paid as a “Cash Balance” on their food stamp card. They can use that part of the balance for whatever they like, just like any other debit card – including cash back – anywhere from $300 to $500 cash “for free” every month. In fact, I just recently read a news story about someone using their cash balance to pay for bail when arrested on drug charges – the polititians all being “shocked” that such a thing could be happening.

        • Guest

          You read that in a newspaper ? What paper ? What date ? Who wrote the article ? I would love to read it for myself !

          • Anonymous

            It was in the Boston Herald. I dont know if they let you post links here, but if not, just google  “bail ebt card” and it should be amongst the first in the list. This case was in Boston, but it just goes to show all the states need to address the same issues in administering the Federal Programs.

            bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20220412deleo_targets_ebt_card_abuse_in_proposed_budget

          • Guest

            Oh, I see. I thought we were discussing something that was occuring here in Maine. By the way were you aware that Ruppert Murdoch (Fox News) owns the Herald ? I don’t trust that rag anymore than I trust Fox News !

          • jimbobhol
          • Guest

            Oh, I see. I thought we were discussing something that was occuring here in Maine. By the way were you aware that Ruppert Murdoch (Fox News) owns the Herald ? I don’t trust that rag anymore than I trust Fox News !

        • jimbobhol

          I read that story. He was making his allowed call to his buddy and told him to use his ebt card to get cash to bail him out, guard was listening in on call. You can’t this stuff up.

        • Anonymous

          You should re-read what I said. In terms of having GA help
          for rent, ALL TANF has to be diverted to the Landlord. I never said that cash
          does not go on EBT, that is just  your
          rush to judgment. Your example was that people were getting more money to spend
          by GA. I was just illustrating that facts are harder to argue against than anecdotal
          stories. The GA rule is rock-solid, either TANF goes toward rent, or they don’t
          pay the difference, period.

      • jimbobhol

        You can get your tanf cash on your ebt card.

        • Anonymous

          In your rush to judgment, you didn’t actually read what I said, huh?
          This was in reference to someone saying that they get more money from GA for Beer, Weed and cigarettes, when the simple fact is A) GA does not give out money. and B) if you want them to help you with rent, they require that the entire TANF amount be diverted to the Landlord.
          Now, show me again, where I said that TANF doesn’t go on EBT?
          Right. Exactly.

  • Guest

    Don’t they really mean to say….. LePage uses “Koch-Item” Veto  ?  You are losing the battle big time Governor ! Even your “own” are all bailing out on you Paul ! 

     The Governor is a perfect example of cronyism at its highest level ! 2014 can’t come soon enough !

    • Anonymous

      I agree, let’s get back to where we pay out more than taken in. That sound good to ya? Of course if you receive more than you give it’s a good deal, right? By the way, there is no pastdowneast in Maine! 

      • Guest

        Brilliant response ! You are certainly advancing your ideology with that comeback ! By the way there is no ath20 ! Thank You ! Come Again !

        • Anonymous

          Can you divi up what you’re smoking?

          • Guest

            Sorry, I don’t use drugs, and please don’t divi up any more of that Fox News Kool-Aid that you’ve been drinking!

        • Anonymous

          Maybe not, pastdowneast, but there sure are plenty of atholes.

          • Guest

            20 or so I would guess !

    • Anonymous

       Yeah, let’s go back to the Baldacci methid of just not paying the bills.  That really worked out well for us. 

      • Anonymous

        Except, for the fact that Baldacci did pay back bills. By back bills I refer to those left for him from King. Facts are your friends.

        • Anonymous

           Meets some facts.  He left us owing the Maine hospitals hundreds of millions.  He also cost us additional hundreds of millions with his failed computer billing system.  And the feds reduced our Medicade reimbursement rate by 25% thanks to his failed DHHS billing system costing us hundreds of millions more.

           It was in all of the newspapers.  Try to keep up.

          • Anonymous

            Do yourself a quick google search on what Maine owed the hospitals before Baldacci was sworn in for the first time. And then get back to me, mmmkay?

          • Anonymous

             So just because the liberal greenie King didn’t pay the hospitals somehow makes Baldacci not paying the hospitals OK?  What color is the sky in your word?

          • Anonymous

             Leaving hundreds of millions owed to hospitals after 8 years in office is nothing to be proud of unless you’re a liberal.  real people lost their jobs because of that, but you people like you don’t even care since it doesn’t suit your agenda. 

            Nice dodge of the other points in my post showing what an economic midget Baldacci was. I guess that doesn’t fit your agenda calling for continued economic irresponsibility.

      • Guest

        I Don’t know about you, but as soon as LePage is history we will be better off. My thinking would be to that I would rather look to the future than inanely arguing about the past. What could ever be gained by going there? LePage has not done a single thing to improve anything. If you believe he has, please let me know what it is ?

        • Anonymous

           Well he’s paying the bills for one thing.  But that’s optional to liberals.

          • Guest

            Wow! That’s a brilliant statement.

          • Anonymous

             Baldacci didn’t pay the bills.  LePage is.  Try to keep up.

          • Guest

            Wow ! You actually believe that ? LePage has taken the most used page right out of the Conservative playbook !!! “Rob Peter to Pay Paul” ! Try to keep up. Huh ?

          • Anonymous

             I believe it because it is true.  Baldacci sold off the state liquor business to connected Dem insiders at a bargain (a bargain for his cronys, not the taxpayer) price and he and the Maine Dems still wouldn’t pay the bills.  These facts are not in question.  You must have seen it.  It was in all the papers. 

            LePage is actually paying the bills.  I know being a product of public education puts you at a disadvantage, but do try to keep up.

          • Guest

            You are entitled to believe anything you choose to. I dont have to believe it just because you do. Both of my local liquor stores are owned and operated by Republicans. I guess the papers must have made a mistake, or maybe those are the only two liquor stores in the state of Maine that are owned by Republicans. Pretty funny ! Enjoy drinking the LePage Kool-Aid.. as it wil be gone in Nov. 2014.

          • Anonymous

            Believe what you want.  You’ll be wrong.  Even the Maine Dems know Baldacci screwed us.

            http://www.pressherald.com/news/n_h_-liquor-sales-costing-millions_2012-04-03.html

            ” “I’m hoping we get a heck of a better deal than the Baldacci administration (negotiated),” said Sen. John Patrick, D-Rumford.”

          • Guest

            I clicked your link but could find nothing about the bid’s only going to Democrat insiders ? What are you talking about ?

          • Anonymous

             The bid went to Severin Beliveau and his clients.  A long time Dem insider.  Not surprised that you didn’t know since the Maine media is in the bag for the Dems and you have to be paying attention to know these things. 

            No comment on the Dem legislator decrying the lousy deal Baldacci “negotiated”?

          • Guest

            I am sorry but you claimed that all liquor stores were owned by Democrats. I must now ask you if you know the difference between a supplier and a retailer ? The liquor contract was put out to bid. If you don’t like whomever won the bid, the contract will come up for bidding when the current contract expires. Let me know if there is something that you don’t understand about the way Capitalism works ! Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes on your part my friend !!! Did you happen to have a Conservative friend who lost the bid ?

          • Guest

            I don’t know a liquor seller who isn’t a Republican!

          • Anonymous

            Forget it, pastdowneast, oldtimer is too far gone to reason with.

          • Guest

            I’m hoping not !

        •  What has he done to harm you?

          • Guest

            The question is, what has he done to improve conditions here in the State of Maine. Politics are not (and should not be) personal. 

          • Guest

            Stole a portion of my retirement.

          • Anonymous

            Stole all the pride I had in my state.

  • Guest

    I hate playing poker with wild cards. (-;

  • Anonymous

    Good job LePage Way to go!  I would do the same thing. Thank You, and do not give in.

  • jimbobhol

    Maine POP. 1,319,691……Welfare total391,691/ Foodstamps 230,309/ Medicaid 329,970/TANF 39,361 ……7.3 % unemployment

    • Anonymous

      Is that good or bad

      • jimbobhol

        I think you got the point

        • Anonymous

          I have a nephew that says he has a bad back, can’t work or go to school it hurts to bad but can go  fishing most days. Gets his check every month

          • Anonymous

            Each and everyone on this board could tell the same story about someone they know. Will they? No, they won’t, either because it’s harmful to their political party or hits too close to home.

          • Anonymous

            I have no political party, politions have no backbone they just campaign all the time no time to govern

          • Anonymous

            politicions have no backbone

          • Anonymous

            C’mon man, turn him in, don’t wimp out because he is family …show some spine.

          • Anonymous

            i did they do not care

          • RoostookGuy

            I don’t believe you.

          • Anonymous

            I have reported people also. The State does not care, they do nothing when you report abuse.

          • Guest

            They can’t tell you if they do something. Don’t assume that they didn’t investigate, but couldn’t prove it. The perp wouldn’t tell them what he tells you..

          • Anonymous

            SUUUUUUUURE you did.

          • Guest

            Book him, Dano. Stop the fraud…. Start with sire LePage!

    • Anonymous

      Mr. LePage is cleaning up on the welfare cheats…

  • Anonymous

    Mr. LePage  is a strong man…. Not to popular with the folk that get the hand outs from the tax payer….

    • Anonymous

      I don’t get any handouts and he definitely is not on  “my top 10 list”!!

      • Anonymous

        Well dont vote for him, he will be voted win the next election too…

        • Anonymous

          Fat chance.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for that. The last sentence is a true winnah!

  • Anonymous

    “Line-item vetoes apply only to dollar amounts contained in the budget and not budget language. The two issued by the governor reportedly address funding of general assistance for the 2013 fiscal year and the disproportionate share to hospitals and psychiatric facilities, which offsets losses in federal funding.”
     
    Disproportionate to what, exactly? I find this article remarkably confusing. And the vetoes “reportedly” address funding? Reportedly means according to published report. What, exactly, was the source of the article? Did the reporter see the documents? All that I know from reading this is that the governor still wants to cut funding to general assistance; as for hospitals, their share of the budget is apparently “disproportionate” to something in the eyes of, well, someone not identified. Is that the reporter’s point of view? Does anyone edit this material?

  • I was certain as soon as I saw that our Great in his own mind dicktator used a line item Veto [ first time ever in Maine] that the poor of this state would again be his vic[tums]. He really is becoming quite predickable and boring. Maybe a simple majority will indeed have the chutzpah to show him the errors of his ways.

  • Anonymous

    I find two of Mr Lepage’s statements in this article tellling and troublesome and I suspect the majority of Mainers would feel likewise.

    ” We must do what is right without regards for the next election … ” In other words regardless of  how the majority of Maine citizens feel we have an agenda. If they will not vote for us next election because of our agenda so be it. I find this total disregard of the will of the people troublesome. Mr LePage please try to remember our government was found on … ” of the people, by the people and  for the people ” not my agenda.

    ” It is why we all took that solemn oath and this is why I ask each and every one of you for your support of these vetoes.” Now I have got to tell you that I doubt this ” oath ” has anything to do with the oath they took to support the people of Maine. But I am willing to venture that this “oath ” has a lot to do with supporting the tea party agenda.

    Mr LePage, I would suggest you take a cue from our legislators. Their overwhelming support for this supplemental budget speaks of their support for the will of the majority of Mainers. Get on board.   

    • Anonymous

      Time for people to man up…….

  • Anonymous

    You go Governor.  It’s time to reduce the “give away” programs to a much lower level…. 

  • Anonymous

    God I love this man.  Keep on keeping on  Gov. Lepage!  We haven’t had a person of real conviction and integrity in the Blaine house in so long that some people can’t recognize it.  The more the libtards scream the better we like it!  Luv the Gov!

    • Anonymous

      Yes…. And another 4 yrs too….He is taking charge….

      • Anonymous

        LePage has as much chance of being re-elected as my old socks. Get used to it.

        • Anonymous

          I bet you are wrong…..

  • Anonymous

    ok, fine. You are still off by ten years with the two years in the 90’s that had R majorities and the 8 years of McKernan, who by the way was one horrible Gov.

  • Anonymous

    I come to Maine for vacation, you can tell the ones on welfare, they dont work, they have the brand new atv and snowmobile….Its a known fact..

    • Anonymous

      If it’s a known fact, why so short on details… ?

  • jimbobhol
  • Anonymous

    (sarcasm on) This trick is REALLY going to make the Legislature work with him!  (sarcasm off)

    These guys think they’ve got some time off now, and he’s putting them in a position where they’ve got to come back. 

    This is more of Paul the Bully at work, but he may have shot himself in the foot this time!  LOL

  • jimbobhol
  • Anonymous

    Love Gov. Lepage.  The more the liberals scream about him, the more I like him.

  • Anonymous

    No different than LePage saying he’s a Repub when everybody knows he Teapotty

  • Anonymous

    Oh it’s gonna be a great year. !!!

  • Anonymous

    Keep talking.  We’ll see you November.  The Republicans are going to get beaten like a drum.

  • “We need a profile in courage in Augusta.” said the coward that fled to Canada during the Viet Nam war. Yeah I find him totally credible, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Imagine… someone who cares about fiscal responsibility and  jettisoning the millstone of  welfare mentality that has destroyed more lives and left Mainers all the poorer for decades. Oh! and the resounding ecstasy of liberals profligates  moaning and groaning in their own slough of despond. 

  • Matt Sparrow

    People before Politics indeed.  Now when you look up bully pulpit, you know who’s picture will be there.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, he is such a bully….LOL

  • Anonymous

    Are these mindless critics paid by the Democrat Party to take shots at the Governor? Are they trying to protect Maine’s ranking (by Forbes) of 50th out of 50 states in career and business opportunity? The economy is dead, folks. Half the state population lives on transfer payments from the government. The Governor is trying to make due with what income the state generates. Don’t you get it? Instead you attack him as an enemy when he’s the only friend with any courage that you have to try to get us out of the economic cellar.  

    • Anonymous

      Uh, apparently you don’t recall that the Forbes editor in charge of the ranking said the rankings were not in any way tied to state budgets or state assistance programs.

      Besides, why is anyone so concerned about pleasing a magazine editor? Ranking issues are nothing more than self-promotions by publications.

  • Anonymous

    This crackpot is unbelievable. He holds his own opinion in higher esteem than the combined efforts of both branches of the legislature. How arrogant!! “My way or the highway” is the only thing he knows. The House and the Senate represent the people of Maine. Who does this turkey represent?

    • Harry H Snyder III

       I wish the house and senate “represented the people” unfortunately this is not the case. They represent the people who send them campaign contributions.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, General Assistance is out of control!  Come to Madawaska and see for yourselves.  Sidewalk lawyers with cell phones and cigarettes.  Section 8 housing, no need to work and no worries about going without!  They are coming out of hibernation this time of year. 

  • Finally a real strong individual in public service, willing to do the tough things that have to be done!!!!! Governor Lepage you have my complete and total respect.Christopher C Colby

  • With respect to the recurring theme that Lepage should create jobs, I would observe that he can’t.  (I’m no fan of Lepage, believe me, so what I am about to write, I would apply to the executive branch at large.)   While a governor can not create jobs, she or he can certainly use executive powers to establish initiatives and propose legislation which would promote job creation in the private sector.  I have seen no meaningful efforts in that regard from this administration.

  • Anonymous

    General assistance is yet another program that needs to go bye-bye, simply because of  the fact that it is MANDATED by the state and all towns and cities have to participate.

    I have seen on more than one occasion where someone that can afford to buy their cigarettes and alcohol has the balls to come in and ask the taxpayers to GIVE them money for groceries or fuel oil.

    • Anonymous

      And everyone who applies for disability can end up losing all of their belongings and their home? You’re fine with that?

  • Anonymous

    The fundamental problem is the way the state runs its elections. When we elect someone with only 39% of the votes, we are selecting someone out of touch with 61% of the voters. This doesn’t make for a strong executive nor for an executive representative of the majority. What can we expect in these circumstances?

    • Guest

      Dear John_Penquis.. Why on earth didn’t you bring this up when John Baldacci won his Governors Seat with 38% of the Vote the first time and 34% of the vote the second time….
      If you knew why this happens you could then point a finger at the Dems.. They help place independents on the ballot in both of Johns election for one reason, to split the Republican vote., and it worked just the way they planned.. So when the snake turned it’s head, you complain… and yes you are right John Baldacci was out of touch with 62% then 66% of the people.

  • Anonymous

    When you take from one it has to come from another! DUH

  • Harry H Snyder III

    I suggest cutting the budget is the reason we elected all these Republicans… I know that was my reason for voting for Kevin and Dave.

    • Anonymous

      The widespread discontent with the Baldacci administration, of which I was no fan, is what enabled the republicans to gain control of the legislative and executive branches. As much as I loathed Baldacci, the current occupant of the Blaine House is the undisputed King of Bullsh–. He snuck into office only because Mitchell and Cutler split the 61% who didn’t vote for him – a mistake that will not happen again.

      • Harry H Snyder III

         Brennan, McKernan, King, and Baldacci got less than half the Maine voters.  No candidate for Governor has gotten a majority of voters for his first term since Ken Curtis.

        Baldacci and King got a lower percentage of the vote than did LePage.  I don’t know how you plan to stop this from happening again, but I sincerely wish you luck.

        I believe it was the economy and LePages promise to limit spending which got him elected.  That is why I voted for him.

  • Anonymous

    Most of these comments seem to assume that the governor’s job is just to rubber stamp whatever the legislature passes. That’s not the case, and it is by purposeful design that the framers of our state and federal governments set up such a check and balance of power system. It’s an interesting move on LePage’s part to line-item veto. I think by doing so, he is forcing legislators to own their decision on these two issues.

    The legislative branch has to work by attempting to form alliances and garner general support for bills through compromise and deal making. The executive branch does not work that way–it works on an authoritarian model with a chief executive in charge of decision making. A lot of people want to make hay when they see LePage’s initial proposals being altered or dropped, but it makes perfect sense that they would be, and it happens with every governor because of the dynamic involved in getting votes to pass legislation in the House and Senate.

    • Guest

      A+++ to you thegreatwandini

      Most people like the mob rule mentality, you know democracy.. I myself love our Republic.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent.  I can only add LD 5,  An Act to Ensure the Three Branches of Government are not from the Same Family Tree and LD 6, An Act to Ensure the Governor has A Brain.

  • StillRelaxin

    Didn’t you just come out of nowhere to make a PERSONAL ATTACK against me regarding what you say is an indication of my being “Intellectually Bankrupt?” Yep. Have I called you or anyone a name here? Nope. All I’m seeing from you is a sad case of “Like” envy. This isn’t High School. You’d be much better off here if you simply tried to express your own viewpoints on what’s being debated rather than whine off topic because you’re unhappy that others are clearly making more popular comments than yourself. 

    • Anonymous

      just an observation.   you are a bully.  

  • Anonymous

    FINALLY!! A smidgen of commonsense out of Augusta.  Welfare is out of control in Maine and needs to get reigned in.  We cannot continue to support everyone who has decided they don’t want to be burdened with a work schedule.  Welfare was developed for those who CANNOT work (i.e. those with handicaps, disabilities, and certain diseases or illnesses).  I agree that these people need our help, but one cannot look at the current welfare guidelines and lists of recipients and believe that these are the people being being served.   Lepage is right on this one.  We need welfare reform.

  • Guest

    >>>>

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure you think you’re poor.  We keep redefining poor to include those who have money to spend on things like cable TV, cell phones, ATVs and  tattoos.  Have to keep adding to the “clientele” in the poverty business.

  • Guest

    Hey, Who made it possible to have  line item veto power in Maine anyway???

    THE DEMS!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Granted we need welfare reform but it should be across the board.We keep the gov.and law makers neck deep to a tall giraffe in perks that the average person can only hope for.I wish some one would keep me in gas to go to work,buy my twinkies,and let me work half a year and get paid for a full year and let me carry a gun to work.I would be standing in tall cotton.      

  • Mary Stubbs

    You need to break a few eggs to make an omelett. The governor is making the tough decisions that need to be made if Maine is ever going to be the former welfare state.

    • Anonymous

      The only egg that will be left is the one on LePew’s face.

  • MaineHiker

    Maine Senate passes renewable power bill ….. thanks to 8 jackass republicans.

  • Guest

    I wish the BDN would stop posting LePage’s face on the front page…Sheesh! enough already…

  • http://www.themainewire.com/2012/04/editorial-line-item-vetoes-correct-legislature%E2%80%99s-mistakes/

    The Maine Wire editorial explains why the Governor vetoed the two budget lines.

  • Guest

    “The governor, however, wanted……. Yeah, we know. I want a recall/impeachment.

  • Anonymous

    The Governor says, “The Maine people expect leadership and those in Augusta must deliver.”  I believe that’s what the legislature is finally doing!

  • Anonymous

    Lance Dutson is not an elected official. He should stop meddling with the people in the legislature. The legislature should all go back and vote again.

  • Anonymous

    This legislature is more interested with screwing with the workers and workers comp. then they are with the welfare bums. The ones that work and pay into the system and when they get hurt are screwed because the legislature is worried about the insurance companies.
    Why not reform welfare and general assistance. They don`t work to pay into the system but we sure don`t want to screw with these bums.

  • Anonymous

    LePage is doing more to help us than all governors before him since Longley. Keep fighting Paul!

  • Anonymous

    I found the Legislatures approval of LD1903 very concerning since part of it rested upon violation of federal law, specifically Sec. 1923. 42 U.S.C. 1396r–4 of the Social Security Act.

    It is very clear the Governor correctly interpreted federal law, and vetoed line 0105 in LD1903, which reads; “Adjusts funding to reflect correct reimbursements to Riverview Psychiatric Center and Dorothea Dix Psychiatric Center from MaineCare” which is clearly illegal under federal Social Security law which Medicaid falls under;.

    It is illegal to bill Medicaid for people in Institutes for Mental Disease (IMD), jails/prisons, it is the full responsibility of the state. Exactly how and why the Legislature attempted to use federal funds for an illegal purpose is unclear, but at a minimum suggests the Legislature rushed through something which is a critical lifeline for many Mainers.

    If this budget amendment had passed the Governors desk, and Medicaid funds were used to in Riverview or Dorothea Dix hospitals the results could have been disastrous since Maine is already caught in a serious review by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) because of a series of violations. DHHS has recently started to post communications with CMS which shed light on the deep problems
    http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/oms/provider/pnmi/citations.shtml pay particular attention to the range and severity of problems previous Commissioner Harvey seemed incapable of understanding or addressing.

    I hope for the sake Mainers who rely on MaineCare for life enabling supports and services our Legislature quickly corrects their glaring mistake and forgoes the unhelpful political sniping. The Governor in this instance did the right thing.

  • Anonymous

    I found the Legislatures approval of LD1903 very concerning since part of it rested upon violation of federal law, specifically Sec. 1923. 42 U.S.C. 1396r–4 of the Social Security Act.

    It is very clear the Governor correctly interpreted federal law, and vetoed line 0105 in LD1903, which reads; “Adjusts funding to reflect correct reimbursements to Riverview Psychiatric Center and Dorothea Dix Psychiatric Center from MaineCare” which is clearly illegal under federal Social Security law which Medicaid falls under;.

    It is illegal to bill Medicaid for people in Institutes for Mental Disease (IMD), jails/prisons, it is the full responsibility of the state. Exactly how and why the Legislature attempted to use federal funds for an illegal purpose is unclear, but at a minimum suggests the Legislature rushed through something which is a critical lifeline for many Mainers.

    If this budget amendment had passed the Governors desk, and Medicaid funds were used to in Riverview or Dorothea Dix hospitals the results could have been disastrous since Maine is already caught in a serious review by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) because of a series of violations. DHHS has recently started to post communications with CMS which shed light on the deep problems
    http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/oms/provider/pnmi/citations.shtml pay particular attention to the range and severity of problems previous Commissioner Harvey seemed incapable of understanding or addressing.

    I hope for the sake Mainers who rely on MaineCare for life enabling supports and services our Legislature quickly corrects their glaring mistake and forgoes the unhelpful political sniping. The Governor in this instance did the right thing.

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