Comments for: Thieves make off with furnace, oil tanks from vacant Augusta home

Posted March 19, 2012, at 7:19 a.m.
Last modified March 19, 2012, at 3:33 p.m.

AUGUSTA | Thieves have been known to steal copper pipes from vacant homes, but the bandits who broke into an Augusta house made off with much more. The owner of the home called police last week to report that not only had the copper been stolen, but the furnace …

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  • Why do the police estimate?  They did that to my one week old car in Bar Harbor and it ended up costing over a thousand.  When did the police start doing body work and I can tell you it will cost over 5K.  This is happening all over the state/country and Realtors are being robbed.  This will continue as long as the state allows people to sell all that with out a license.  Other states want a license for any amount of copper over 8 lbs.  The ones buying it are thieves too but legal.  They know where it comes from.  Our illustrious gov and the legislature could put an end to it but WTH he’s from MA.

    • Anonymous

      a licence to scrap is not going to stop a theif no more the the lock on the door of the house they broke into.a crook is a crook.maybe if they make a scraper have a paper signed by who the got the metal from like wearth tippers so theres a paper trail to check on. but  i agree this is a major problem.

      • If they can only sell 8 lbs at a time it will be, security systems also help keep theives out.  They should have a license if they are trying to sell more than that.  Of course, this is one of the reason the state gets an F, even contractors aren’t licensed.  Every lobsterman with a hammer is a contractor in the winter.   There should definitly be a paper trail.  A house was sold and when they went to do the last viewing before closing, they found it had been stripped on a major road.  It really is a problem that’s only going to get worse if they don’t do something now.

        • Anonymous

          when you go to a dealer to sell your scrap you have to give them your I.D and they copy it along with you plate number and the dealer is licenced . I wish there was a easy fix to this problem.     a security system is a great ,if you can afford it .like me I live in a small town with no police other then county and state and if a alarm go’s off its going to take a while for them to show up and the house is going to be clean out.I my self had a 400.00 catlic converter cut right off my truck.so iam right with you mainer in finding a system that will work and not all scrapper are crooks.most are just trying to put food on the table and pay the rent just like the lobstermen.there being what mainers are, hard working folks trying to make ends meet and not looking for a hand out

          • Not at my expense and I know plenty of lobsytermen that drive new 4X4s and pay no taxes or atleast not what they should then get food stamps and LIHEAP all winter.  Some actually brag about it as well as their stermen.  Not all are honest.  They just  brtoke up a ring Downeast pulling that crap and it’s a federal offense becausee they crossed state lines, let’s see what happens.  Too bad we have to legislate ethics.  :(

          • Anonymous

             alot of folks would do well to upgrade thier plumbing themselves. I cut all the copper out of my house and sold it to the scrap yard for 480 bux last summer. I then bought pex plastic tubing and replaced it all for a cost of 75 bux. Now I dont have to worry about my pipes freezing and breaking in the winter and to boot I got a 405 dolla bonus for doing it. Furthermore, I wont have to worry about some schlep breaking in and stealing my copper while I’m away.

    • Anonymous

       they already require an ID when you sell scrap at the scrap yard. they also pay out by check. the paper trail is there but its not going to stop a thief from stealing.

      • If what you say is a fact, I don’t understand why they aren’t finding these people.  It works in other states that once had the same problem ten years ago.

        • Anonymous

          A big part of the problem is that there are many more legitimate scrappers out there who procure their scrap legally. I spent an entire summer living off scrap from the dump, an old house I own, a hundred years of junk piles on an old farm, etc. The scrap yard looks at a pickup full of junk and it doesnt look any different than a pickup full of stolen junk. You cant tell one piece of pipe from another. These thieves took a furnace and oil tanks. chances are they were’nt going to a scrap yard with them. Someone has a new heating system in thier home for cheap cash most likely.

          • The should be CONTRACTORS to turn in that much copper piping, the buyers have to know you don’t have a whole house full of pipes laying around doing nothing.  So I guess stealing is okay. Licenses, unfortunately because you can’t teach ethics, license for different levels of trash. This isnt rocket science all though the computer systems they have now are FUBAR.

    • Anonymous

      The ones stealing metal are doing this because it is “unreported” income. Scrap metal processors are not required to report the income individuals are receiving from their yards. If they made it so that anyone that receives $500 or more from sale of scrap metal in a calendar year has to fill out a w-9 form. The the processors would then automatically have to issue a 1099 at the end of the year. A copy of this 1099 is sent to the IRS and the ME Dept of Revenue. A lot of the individuals are hiding their income because they either a: receive welfare, b: are receiving SSI or c: owe child support. 

      • Anonymous

         you dont pay income tax when you sell something you own. like a car, or a house, or scrap metal.

        • Anonymous

          Scrap metal is a raw material which is refined and then used to make new goods. We have a licensed salvage yard and I have to pay taxes on the same material that these individuals are taking in and not claiming the income. According to the IRS, selling raw material and profiting on it is an “income” which people are required to pay their fair share of taxes on it.

          • Anonymous

             and the difference is that when I drag my broken down car which I already own to your salvage yard, I sell it to you at a loss, not a profit.  You in turn sell it at a profit and are subject to taxation because your a commercial entity in the buisness of working for a profit.

          • Anonymous

            And the individuals that are out there doing it for a living without getting licensed are also making a profit and not paying their taxes on it. That is why you set it so that anyone that receives $500 or more (or even $1,000 or more) in a calendar year, fills out a w-9 in order to generate a 1099.

            And the profit I make, not much at all. I still have an overhead, just like any other business. I have to process it, dispose of hazardous materials and I also have to truck the material 200 – 300 miles depending on the type of material I am shipping out.

            And you are not selling your broken down vehicle at a loss. You ran it until it depreciated in value. You got your worth out of it while running it.

          • Anonymous

            These individuals (we call peddlers) are making on average $500 – $1,000 a day and not paying their taxes. A lot of them are also receiving state and/or federal aid. How is that fair to those of us that are licensed and operating a business? Maybe I should just say to hell with our license and do what we do as “peddlers”.

  • Anonymous

    3 yrs ago there was a simalar incedent in milbridge, the tenant picked up a drug  problem , stole the copper , his mother owned the house , had him arrested and shipped him  to florida for rehab
    she sold the house with copper missing , on the cheap.
    new owner(from new jersey) calls up a local contractor , to go see what the house needed to get back up and running .
    he calls her and tells her the whole heating system was missing due to the previous tenant stealing .
    he tells her furnace and radiators are gone . when in fact at time of sale the furnace and radiators were in tact .
    someone stole her furnace

    • There are so many empty houses, people really need to keep an eye out.  A lot of times people move in, rent furniture, the whole thing.  They like kitchen cabinets too for easy sale.

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