Comments for: Maine ranks 17th on new lottery ‘sucker’ list; Georgia, 1st Maine ranks 17th on new lottery ‘sucker’ list; Georgia, 1st Massachusetts had the highest annual spending at $860.70 per adult, more than three times the U.S. average. Read More Maine ranks 17th on new lottery ‘sucker’ list; Georgia, 1st Back to story → Guidelines for posting on bangordailynews.com The Bangor Daily News and the Bangor Publishing Co. encourage comments about stories, but you must follow our terms of service. Keep it civil and stay on topic No vulgarity, racial slurs, name-calling or personal attacks. People who harass others or joke about tragedies will be blocked. The primary rule here is pretty simple: Treat others with the same respect you'd want for yourself. Here are some guidelines (see more): It should be noted this is not a comprehensive list. Don't insult one another or the subjects of BDN stories. 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Quite often, we won't see a comment until it's reported. Questions about why a comment was — or wasn't — deleted? E-mail us at firstname.lastname@example.org and let us know your username and where you posted or saw the comment. That's about it: Stick to writing about the stories; be civil; be kind; enlighten your neighbors. And we'll keep moderating posts to try to ensure everyone meets those standards. ptkitty Maybe Mississippi an Alabama are not as dumb as we thought. “The Lottery, with its weekly pay-out of enormous prizes, was the one public event to which the proles paid serious attention … It was their delight, their folly, their anodyne, their intellectual stimulant … the prizes were largely imaginary. Only small sums were actually paid out, the winners of the big prizes being non-existent persons.” 1984 (Nineteen Eighty-Four) Part 1, Chapter 8. BTW, Is anyone else tired of standing in line behind people who purchase scratch tickets at stores…and then scratch them then and there…redeeming any winners…and starting all over again? Anonymous That’s like someone pumping gas then going inside to use the bathroom or buy something else, when there is a line of cars waiting to use the pump. Have some common courtesy conduct your business and move off. Anonymous 1984 could be renamed 2012. so much has come true. Anonymous Hope the people know what you are talking about. I do, that’s why I drimk. HalseyTaylor A lottery is nothing but a tax on poor people. If a legislator proposed a new $500 per year tax on low income earners, he’d be hung out to dry. But call it a lottery and it’s no problem. Anonymous No, it’s a tax on people who are bad at math. No one forces the poor to play the lottery, and when I was making minimum wage I knew it was a waste of $ to buy scratch off tickets. HalseyTaylor Obviously no one is forced to buy lottery tickets, but they do, and it is the same effect as a tax – you are paying money to the government. Be my guest! Anonymous My point is that this is not a tax on poor people, unless you believe all poor people are dumb. I know many poor people who don’t regularly play the lottery, and I know many people with higher incomes who play the lottery all the time. It has more to do with your understanding of statistics than anything. Anonymous Your personal knowledge of “many poor people” is irrelevant though. As a whole, lottery players are largely lower-income people — that’s fact. Anonymous So what? Correlation does not equal causation. Anonymous But it’s not the cause— again, it’s not a tax on poor people, it’s a tax on people with poor judgement and math skills. Anonymous Sorry missed this: I concur. As someone who was once poor, but never dumb, I’m insulted by the suggestion that the poor are somehow too stupid to know better. Anonymous This is my point, exactly. For the same reason, I don’t demonize black youths as more prone to crime, because it’s not the fact that they are black and young that causes this— it is the youths growing up in single parent households in poverty that are more prone to crime, and there is a statistical correlation between that and blacks in our country. Correlation does not equal causation. In the case of the lottery, it’s not the fact that these people are poor that makes them play, it’s the fact that they have poor judgement on their odds of winning, and therefore they play too much. Anonymous Wow, stop it! Most people on this site are a Tom Cruise type…They can’t handle the truth! Anonymous State-run lotteries are a special tax for stupid people. It’s quite sad, in reality. Anonymous I know plenty of poor people who are not stupid and understand that lottery tickets are a losing bet every time. Your comment suggests you think poor people can’t think for themselves. Insulting, really… Anonymous I think you meant this to answer another comment— my point was the exact opposite, because I was once poor, and knew better than to spend my paycheck on scratch-off tickets & quick pick jackpot chances. Anonymous Yes, whoops, hit reply in the wrong place… Scott Actually, it’s a tax on dumb people. Everyone can play the lottery regardless of income level. mejusttingtobeme12 there choice Anonymous Are you calling poor people dumb? That’s not nice. I am not poor but that tyoe of language is very offensive. So smart people don’t buy lottery tickets. Hmmm. HalseyTaylor May I suggest you read through the comments to see who was calling who dumb. BTW you spelled “type” wrong. Anonymous No one forces anyone else to buy a scratch ticket. Last time I checked there was NO law forcing people below a certain income to buy scratch or other lottery tickets. HalseyTaylor By golly you’re right! Anonymous No jobs, Slave wage jobs. A lot of very, very desperate people existing in Maine. They see the lottery as their only hope to escape Maine’s Brutal Poverty. Anonymous They see it that way because that’s exactly how the state advertises it. The state sells the hope of life-altering wealth ….. a myth that others forms of gambling (slots, horseracing, bingo) do not stoop to. Anonymous Lottery: Voluntary tax. Lottery winning: Voluntary tax refund. Alas, with this report out, it’ll mean the state will have to come up with other taxes (“fees” in current political PC-terms) to make up for the lack of suckers paying into the voluntary tax. Anonymous Not really, no amount of logic will make up for a fundamental ignorance of statistics and math. Anonymous I was referring to our low rank on the list rather than the lack of idiots within the state. Anonymous States fight against casinos, but push lotteries. Maine spends big $ advertising the lottery and then adds the disclaimer, “please play responsibly”. The state is in the position of regulator & competitor when it comes to casinos. They should get out of the lottery business. Todd Foster Ever noticed how ironic the slogan is? “DREAM a little, DREAM a lot” That’s about all you can do is DREAM! lol Anonymous How many people who buy lottery tickets can/will read this article? It’s a shame that the people who support the lottery are those that can least afford to. Anonymous Oh, but in their mind, it MIGHT be the BIG ONE! Most times, the big one is in the backside… Anonymous Isn’t freedom great? What do you suggest, an IQ test or you tax forms before buying a lottery ticket? Then when someone with money wins, you will just say they don’t deserve it. HalseyTaylor You are right, everyone is free to buy or not buy lottery tickets and that’s great. It may be perfectly legal to take advantage of low income people by selling them lottery tickets but is that a proper function of government? The Preamble to the US Constitution lists “promote the general welfare” as a reason for having a Constitution. I’m not sure that extracting an average of $500 per person in lottery ticket sales does much to promote the general welfare. Anonymous I don’t believe the state should be involved in lotteries, but I don’t understand how it is taking advantage of low income people. You seem to be suggesting that you know how to better spend their money than they do. Under your assumption, Coca Cola, Pepsi, Lays, McDonald’s, Wendy’s, etc are also taking advantage of the poor and not those who are better off. “Extracting” $500 I guess is one way of the poor paying their “fair share” of taxes, right? HalseyTaylor Why do you believe the state should not be involved in lotteries? Anonymous It seems to me that there is a bit of a conflict of interest. They run the lottery and they make the rules for the lottery. And the legislature did not want the casinos. Maybe they didn’t like the competition. And now they get to write the rules for them as well. Anonymous Well, I can and did read this. I buy tickets, too. And I won big, too. Nice annuity for 25 years. I may have been poor once, but I was never dumb. College educated, IQ 142. Ironically my degree is in Agricultural and Resource Economics. Had one very pertinent course titled The Principles of Statistical Inference. I won’t try to explain it, but I enjoyed it very much and found it very useful. Didn’t discourage me from playing the lottery one bit. Didn’t diminish my enjoyment of Vegas either. Entertainment, pure and simple. How I spend my $$ is my choice. Can’t win if you don’t play. Pretty obvious most of the posters here have never won. Jealousy talking? Anonymous I play every once in a while. What the heck. a bag of chips or a lottery ticket. Win or lose it’s still fun. Congrats on winning. Anonymous Rob from the dumb and give to trust fund babies who inherited their wealth. Some things never really change. Anonymous How is someone willfully going into a store and buying a lottery ticket “robbing” them? As far as I know it is their money and they can do what they want with it. And I’m curious how the lottery money is given to the “trust fund babies who inherited their wealth”. Sounds to me like more class envy. What are people suppose to do with their wealth that they have worked hard and accumulated over their lifetime? Give it to you? Anonymous I have one in the past. I am certainly no trust fund baby. It’s called freedom of choice. Anonymous i think you’re confusing the lottery w/ wall street. Anonymous ehh, 2 pigs in a poke. April Rainfrette Freedom of choice is such a hard thing for many people tro grasp. Don’t like the lottery? Don’t play it. Lotteries financed the Revolutionary War, the construction of Harvard University, and the Great Wall of China. David Ya Harvard thier endowment fund is worth like 40 billion . That seems like an almost evil amount of money to hoard when a lot of people can not afford an education. One little school make more interest on thier endowment fund than the state of Maine is run on. And people talk about uneducated people on welfare. Anonymous You can’t buy lottery with EBT cards. Cash only. Todd Foster That’s what they said, “people buy 20 bucks of powerball with cash” Anonymous And people with EBT cards never abuse them by getting 20 cents on the dollar so they can buy their coffee brandy, cigs and weed. Nope it never happens. Oh heck some liberal flaged me because I complimented the intelligence of Oklahoma indians. My God I must be a racist Anonymous Where can I get an EBT card for 20 cents on the dollar? I’m paying 50 cents on the dollar p.s. sorry big brother flagged you. I want to hear what you have to say. Who are the monitors anyway. . . Anonymous My step daughter and her convict boyfriend! That’s all they could get from their dealer. As far as monitors, they don’t have the guts to identify themselves Anonymous Why don’t you read my comment before you flag me Kathy S Ah…the dream of the “soon to be haves”. It is to laugh. Anonymous I tend to buy a quick pick ticket for the major games when I think about it, because you can’t win if you’re not in the drawing at all. But beyond one ticket, you are throwing money away. And scratch-off tickets are fun to bring to a party with friends, but never a good use of money. A far, far better use of this money would be to take that dollar and put it away; if you’ve been buying scratch-off tickets every week as a habit, you’ll easily have $100-400 over the course of a year, and that can be invested in penny stocks for “rich man’s cash 3” as I’ve heard it called :) Lord Whiteman The lottery is a tax on people with poor math skills. Anonymous ALL lottery proceeds should be returned to school math departments. Anonymous THAT would be a great idea! Plus we need our schools to do a MUCH better job at teaching economic life skills; knowledge of interest rates, how credit cards work (and what to look for for a “good” credit card), etc. It amazes me that there are ads on our TV for loan sharks these days (talking about “Western Skies”)– the fine print shows that you’ll pay upwards of $30,000 over 7 years for a one time loan of $5,000, an APR of over 100%. No amount of desperation makes that a realistic decision, they are preying on people with poor math skills. Scott “It’s a pro-rich wealth-redistribution technique in Georgia,” It’s really more of an “anti-dumb people” wealth-redistribution technique. Dumb people throw their money away and the rest of us get good schools for our kids. Sounds fine to me. Anonymous The Maine State Lottery. A tax for people who can’t do math. Anonymous I dont know ! I think in this case its better we arent ranked number 1 ! For a change ! Anonymous Dollars are to hard to make just to give it back to the state TheBam What a stupid poll. Did Dennis Bailey make this one up by himself?? There is no way to track who is buying lottery tickets. Rich? Poor? How do you really know? This is a complete joke. Anonymous I wonder how this list stacks up against welfare benefits. Working in a grocery store I can’t tell you how many times I saw people buy food with foodstamps and head right to the lotto machine and start pumping in the cash they had left over after buying their booze and cigarettes in a seperate order. Old Bear While in Maine we have to pay for them EBT cards somehow. So buying the lottery tickets is just helping out the state. Consider me dumb because I buy lottery tickets and do not live on welfare. Dude When you wish upon a star…… Anonymous Anyone that is dumb enough to buy a scratch off ticket shouldn’t have children. Anonymous I never play the lottery. Its rigged to rip you off. The Govt planned it well. I am waiting for the Casino to open in Bangor. Privately run , not rigged to lose. Imagine. Anonymous The house always wins. Private or government run. Anonymous powerball et al are also rigged. why else would the cut-off time to buy tickets be 2 hours before the draw? to give the computer time to calculate what sequence of numbers to “”pick”” that will pay out the LEAST amount of money. only when it is mathematically impossible to avoid is a jackpot winner awarded, usually during a blue moon. watch the “live” draw and pay attention, sometimes the announcer slips and announces a number BEFORE it even comes out of the bin, oops! Anonymous ahh bloomberg news, headquartered in NYC, noting maine is #17 on sucker list. new york is #3, so, who’s blacker, the pot or the kettle? Anonymous The state should not be in the business of exploiting and taking advantage of people’s economic desperation, simply because it generates revenue. Government is supposed to be for the benefit of society, not feed off of it… But it is not surprising that so many people here seem to support the practice. I’m especially amused at the person who claims to have an IQ of 142, who won a major prize some time ago. That’s not something I’d brag about.