Comments for: All Village Soup publications cease operations

Posted March 09, 2012, at 8:30 p.m.
Last modified March 11, 2012, at 9:30 p.m.

ROCKLAND | The owner of Village NetMedia announced Friday night that he has closed all his newspapers and related Maine websites effective immediately. The closure means the end of weeklies The Village Soup Gazette in Rockland, the Village Soup Journal in Belfast, the Bar Harbor Times in Bar Harbor, …

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  • Anonymous

    Can’t compete with billionaire Libby Pingree’s papers.

    • Anonymous

      You have no idea what you are talking about.  You apparently do not live in the area which these publications serve.  Village Soup Media did themselves in by the business decisions they made.

  • Anonymous

    The respective skeletons of these publications lived for a long time before they were finally taken off life support.
    …the bell tolls for thee

  • Anonymous

    “The company employed 56 people at the time of the announcement.
    Employees were notified by email late Friday, according to two employees.”

    Such class.

    • Anonymous

      No severance for employees.  No notice for employees.    But,   “beyond that which is necessary to complete the closure process.” R.A.

      So he’d begun the closure process. When?  How?

      • marie maccormack

        Right and everyone is patting him on the back for such a great job…well he never cared about the print media or the history of these over 100 year old papers that have survived world wars and very difficult times.  He consulted with financial advisers and outside “professional whats” to be able to hide assets and protect his other interests, forget the 56 dedicated employees.  No notice, no severance packages and no care is Mr. Anderson.  Let us pat him on the back for his accomplishments…there they are….

        • Millicent

          he purchased all the local papers and then killed them…and now we have almost 60 people out of work, and what about all the businesses and individuals who purchased advertising spots that are now not going to be fulfilled? 

    • Anonymous

      I hope you didn’t expect anything more out of this useless newspaper

      • marie maccormack

        This useless Newspaper served  several local communities that looked forward to receiving it.  Useless is definitely not a term to describe the employees and public it served.  Mr Anderson would not fall into a category of successful entrepreneurs unless you put him under useless perhaps he can room next to Bernie Madoff and the rest of the “I consulted with many professional advisers and work tirelessly  to hide all my assets…oh excuse me ……to try to make this work…..

  • Anonymous

     Your demise might call forth a similar sentiment.

    • April Rainfrette

      I just hit the like button for that one. I love good wit!

  • Anonymous

    I honestly cannot say that I am not surprised . . . I canceled my subscription to the Republican Journal this year when they changed the name and format ending what was a long time history. I found that each week I was reading less and less as the news was less relevant to me and it was no longer worth the cost to me . . . in all truthfulness I was finding that its best benefit was in its use in cleaning my woodstove glass — a bit of water, a balled up sheet and the glass on the woodstove would get sparkling clean.
     
    I am saddened for the employees however . . . and for the loss of such long time vaunted newspapers . . . but the times have changed and sadly the efforts of the publisher to move these newspapers into the modern era of internet news and make a profit did not pan out. If I had to hazard a guess I might think that perhaps we may see another newspaper similar to the old Waldo Independent start up . . . with the right formula I think it is still possible to have a profitable newspaper.

    • Anonymous

       Radio, television and the print media have done to our minds what industry has done to the land.
      We now think like New York City looks.

      • Anonymous

        And what, pray tell, do you think New York City looks like? Hint: It looks better than Bangor.

      • Anonymous

        This must be the day of non sequitur reader comments at the BDN. I have no clue what this post is even supposed to imply, let alone how I could think like a city looks… strange.

        • Anonymous

          DD
           I apologize. I ripped off these quotes from Mason Williams’ book THE FCC REPORT
          see  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason_Williams
          I really meant to say radio, television and the print media teach us to buy not to be
          To buy and not to be, that is the question

          also see
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lktr4qBEEr4

          • Anonymous

            Makes sense enough for me. It was nice of you to take the time to clarify, especially since I was so snide in the tone of my criticism.

            Bygones?

          • Anonymous

            please dont encourage her to post more, she is wasting space

          • Anonymous

             Thanks for your support Kenzie, got your back covered,eh?

      • Anonymous

        I remember when my college roommate dropped acid and pretended to write like Thomas Pynchon.  Your comment is remarkably similar to the things my roommate wrote.  I know you are not him, though, because he gave up writing once he realized his senseless ramblings were never going to win him a Nobel Prize in Literature.

        • Anonymous

           See my post below
          I quoted the writings of Mason William who probably did LSD.
          He also won several Emmys, etc etc etc
          Watch the GNN  video with Ralph Nader talking about media.

      • Anonymous

        Your eyebrows pupil, but the students look bright who stare.

      • Anonymous

        Time to bring in Joe Steinberger for another save. Gotta love that intellect from away. 

    • Hey thanks for tip on cleaning the glass on my pellet stove! Gonna go try that now…

      • Anonymous

        I know you wouldn’t but – Disclaimer: Make sure you clean your stove “BEFORE” you build a fire …………………

        This is for those lunkheads that may read this and run right out and try to clean their stove, with a fire going, burn their hands, throw the burning paper out in the middle of the room and burn their house down ………………….. then stand outside scratch their head wondering what went wrong!

        • You mean it should be cold?!? lol

          • Anonymous

            And that too :)

            Now they don’t have any excuse to get it wrong ?!?!?!?

        • Anonymous

          And then try to sue the guy that wrote this comment.

    • Anonymous

      Actually that old info about using newspaper to clean glass was only good for the old style paper/ink that existed in those days. But it makes good garbage to spread to the uninformed from the uninformed.      Seriously, if you have the ability to comment on this forum then you have the ability to research what you are saying.

      • RoostookGuy

        Don’t be so sure of that…

  • Anonymous

    Sad to see

  • Anonymous

    The death spiral of print editions continues.  The ghost dancers of Ka ta din will have to speed up.

  • Anonymous

    So sad……  I personally believe that the “American Dream”  is gone.  Small business owners spend their days trying to figure out who gets $ today?  The bank, IRS, Workers Comp or the gas stations….. never mind trying to pay your neighbor for the work he did for you 6 months ago…….

    • Anonymous

      “I personally believe that the “American Dream” is gone.”

      thank big-government progressives!

      • Anonymous

        “Think” that monopolies, of any kind, are bad.

    • tag

      So true. Small businesses have to worry about where they will be squeezed next instead of being able to worry about their business! Every time the government decides to do something they say will help, they end up helping either the poor or the rich. The middle always takes the brunt. I wish they would just stop trying to help and let folks help themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever some folks might think of these newspapers, this is a terrible loss. Let us remember that the newspaper business is the only business even addressed in the U.S. Constitution and for very good reason. Without information we cannot make the kind of informed decisions necessary to maintain a democracy. This is one collapse of one particular newspaper business that strikes close to home and, in its way, it’s one more nail in the coffin of out democracy.  

    • cleanearth

      Peter – On target.  Hope you are well.  With your writing experience, perhaps you could start a nice, little, local newspaper?  Even if it came out just once a month? 

      Here in Washington County the Eastport-based “The Quoddy Tides” newspaper comes out twice a month and is a splendid newspaper written and owned by local people.  I like it the best of any in the region, perhaps the country.  High quality reporting and attention to details plus covering many towns in the area keep it going.   

      Everybody needs a local newspaper.  Hope you, Peter, or someone else smaht, will take on the project.

    • Anonymous

      Perhaps, if most of the papers did not lean to one side of the politics, more people would buy them, instead of looking for information else where IE: the internet.  same goes for the local news channels  instead of going to cable news channels.  

      • RoostookGuy

        Right, and you’re on the net looking for stuff by moderates.  THAT’S a laugh.

  • Anonymous

     How is the war economy working out for you.
    Hey, just re-enlist.

  • This makes me very sad. I wrote for the Bar Harbor Times when I was a teenager, back when it was owned by the Shea family. The Times used to be such a vital part of Mt. Desert Island. But the quality just faded away. The Village Soup people just didn’t understand how to connect with people. They insisted on linking to Village Soup instead of The Times. People identify with their hometown, not with  a corporate web address. Good night, Times. You gave us 98 years of life. 

    • Anonymous

      I suspect (hope) that someone will revive the Times (though perhaps under a slightly different name, if Anderson can’t be convinced that it’s in the public’s interest to hand it over to a new publisher).

      • marie maccormack

        He shut out all the employees, they can not even go on and print off the articles they wrote for the paper, not to mention he shifted assets around and then had the nerve to tell the employees insufficient funds for severance  packages sending them all to the State for Unemployment and retraining…I hope the State Attorney General investigates his business practices…

        • Anonymous

          On the note of  the State Attorney General investigation,  within the past week I tapped into a current article online, and was prompted to become a subscriber in order to read this article.  It was not that important to me, and so I turned to the Bangor Daily News for the information I was looking for.  I thought it was strange though.  Usually this promp only came up with articles in archive.  At the time I thought it was a something new, again seeking money. 
          I am surprised that this issue has not yet been stated.  If this news sights sudden closure was so imminent, why was this new practice suddenly applied to a current article, and isn’t that illegal?  I’m no expert, but I have always thought that selling something (subscription) that doesn’t or won’t exist is wrong.   Has anyone else seen this happening?

    • Amen, Gary. I took photos for the Ed and the Times as a teenager and student at Bar Harbor High (see my comment above).

  • Anonymous

    Look at the comments on this Newspaper website alone, online readership is what has hurt the print publication business!!! Why pay for something that you can get for free on the internet when even larger papers like the BDN have crappy editors and reporters can’t do any research or real reporting…

    • Anonymous

      Way to go…insult the only Newspaper still offering current Midcoast news reporting.  Lets hope they bare willing to pick up some of the slack…in fact I have been impressed at BDN in these past months..

  • Anonymous

    Glad to see this TABLOID going down! Good riddance!

    • Anonymous

      Why don’t you learn what a tabloid is before you go making a fool of yourself in public.

    • marie maccormack

      What are you like 3?  The Courier was over 150 years old, survived world wars, depressions, recessions, Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, KKK headquarters in Rockland, Presidents visited, the History of these papers and the communities they served I would not call them Tabloid material or journalism….I personally know people who wrote for the paper, assembled the paper, got off their behinds from their office jobs and delivered the papers when needed…you must be talking about the great Boston Globe…

      • RoostookGuy

        But it couldn’t survive Maine being Open For (the) Business…

  • Anonymous

    Very sad news. The Village Soup Times was the best weekly in the state six years ago. The owner got bad advice from inept people. There was still a real writer or two on that staff, and I hope they can find a way to continue somewhere else.

  • Anonymous

    Richard Anderson will be remembered as the one who killed off the Courier Gazette, Camden Herald Republican Journal and Bar Harbor Times. 

    • Anonymous

      He wasn’t a newspaperman just another businessman who never cared about news only the bottom line …. He’s clueless.

    • These papers were historically important not to mention that these loyal employees are now out of jobs, another blow to our local economy too.

      • marie maccormack

        I agree with Carol and I don’t think he care about the print media, I wish the previous owners would have turned him down on his offer to buy the paper and perhaps turned to the employees, some of whom have worked at this paper since High School…

    • Harry H Snyder III

      I do not remember (if I ever knew) who killed off the Telegram, The Tribune The World, The Sun, The Journal,  The Herald, The Brooklyn Eagle, A.M., P.M, The Mirror, Knickerbocker  News, or The American.  I do remember these papers as shadows of their former greatness after they merged The World Telegram & Sun, The Journal American, The Herald Tribune, and the Mirror morning&Evening News.  The Knickerbocker and The Brooklyn Eagle both went out without a merger, and I remember them as the truly great papers of that day.  MAybe there’s a message here

      Then maybe not!

      • Mr. Syder I remember and loved the Brooklyn Eagle too. In fact as you may now one of its last owners who believed in the Brooklyn Eagle you loved was a former Superintendent of Schools in Portland, Frederick Halla.

        I am sad to lose any paper.  I am sad that three of Maime’s newpapers are owned by an an investor and not someone who I thin undersands how important the 4th estate is to freedom, democracy, and civic engagement.  I never get the feeling anymore that there is well researched independent well written good old fashioned journalism. 

        That’s why there has been a virtual corporate take over of our legislative process.

        We are all asleep at the wheel because we have been dumbed down and misled by a crumbling 4th estate.

        But we as citizen journalists can try to use these blogs to tell the truth, to shed  light on key public policy issues, to encourage indepdent critical thinking, to say what the papers aren’t saying and should be.

  • Anonymous

    What a mean thing to do to our small Maine Communities . Killing off  The Courier Gazette, The Camden Herald, The Republican Journal and The Bar Harbor Times. Each paper was a close knit family not to mention the loss of jobs.

    These papers were not squeezed out by their competitors , they were starved for revenue by management who thought print was something to be ashamed of.

    I am looking forward to reading all about it in tomorrow’s BDN , written by Steve Betts. He got out just in time.

    • marie maccormack

      Give them H…lll Steve…You know the inside scoop let it all out!!!

  • Sue

    So sad to see them go. 

    “Every time a newspaper dies, even a bad one, the country moves a little closer to authoritarianism…”

    -Richard Kluger

    “Were it left to me to decide if we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.”

    -Thomas Jefferson

    • Video killed the radio star. I’m sure Richard and Thomas never envisioned in their wildest dreams the internet and the effect that it would have on journalism. Villagesoup did a good job informing people of local news. Translating that into enough profit to sustain it not so much. Today facebook and blogging passes for news. Wikipedia is the top source for info. Sad. Time will tell where this all ends up. 

      • Anonymous

        Let’s not forget that Anderson was in the online news long before he began purchasing these local newspapers.  There were two other names before Village soup.  He had a good thing going back then.  I did some articles for him on the local stock car racing. 

  • Anonymous

    No Severance????   I think Maine requires certain things from businesses that abruptly cease operations.  As far as notifying loyal employees by email….for shame. I left 6 years ago after 27 years with those newspapers… the best in Maine at the time!

    • Anonymous

      In the clear on severance pay, unless there were 100 or more employees in the preceding 12 months.

    • Anonymous

      The e-mail firing is the way the rich (which describes Anderson) fire their employees ….. A cowards way out ….. They’ve been doing it for years …..

      • Anonymous

        You should be jumping for joy, think of how many trees you can go hug now.

      • Harry H Snyder III

        Actually no!  on Friday June 08, 1973 I arrived at the textile mill where I had worked to find a “closed” sign on the big Iron gates which had never before been closed.  Turned out that the owners (a family for which a neighboring town is named) had moved operations to North Carolina. 

        They left without paying employees their last two paychecks (a month’s wages) and they also failed to pay the Commonwealth’s mandatory unemployment insurance premium.

        They left their big hulking 100-year-old brick mill which was seized first by the City, and than by the Commonwealth. Turned out it needed more money in repairs than it was worth, so it sat disintegrating for twenty-years and then was bulldozed.

        I was one of the lucky few who got a job.  I went down the street and pumped Gas for the Haffner’s for about 1/2 of my former wage.  When I went to work in the morning I watched former mill employees at the unemployment office on Canal Street,  Sometimes the line was almost 2 miles long, ’cause when the mill closed down all the ancillary employers who depended on the mill shut down too. Two restaurants, gas stations, a grocery, a chain of banks, the Eastern Cellophane Company, Guidre Wire and Sheet, and the two factory stores which sold textiles to the general public.  In the following years the town would collapse under the weight of folding businesses. 

        The new business for Lawrence Massachusetts is drugs, primarily sold to the citizens of Maine New Hampshire and Vermont….

        See how that works?

        • Anonymous

          The notice tacked up on the gate: hard copy e-mail like …

    • Anonymous

      Nope. 

      And,  Richard Anderson’s words reveal he’d begun the closure process.     “beyond that which is necessary to complete the closure process.” R.A.

      One wonders when?  How?   He took care of his needs, it appears. 

  • PaulNotBunyan

    You probably think 56 jobs were created in another state or China because of this closure. It’s happening because of changes in the news and publishing business. I’m not sure they would have lasted much longer in a strong economy. It’s like blaming LePage because Ford Pintos aren’t selling well in Maine. People with some semblance of intelligence understand that the bad economy is primarily a national problem. That means Obama would be much more to blame than any state governor. In a good economy these 56 workers would quickly find other jobs. When it was that way, the workers often found better jobs. If we had a democrat as governor I would still be putting the blame mostly on Washington for our job losses.

  • Guest

    Join the revolution, prosper into the future…sustainable journalism…words to live by! A hearty thanks to Richard M. Anderson for his stewardship of these venerable publications.

  • Anonymous

    Very. very sad.

  • Anonymous

    Employees were informed by e-mail? Gutless wonder….

  • Anonymous

    If you live in Swanville, our town website is http://www.swanville.org and we have a Facebook page, http://www.facebook.com/swanville. Businesses and citizens are welcome to contribute information or pictures at any time. If you are interested in adding your business, organization, or personal news info on the site, please email katrina@swanville.org.

    • Anonymous

      That’s part of teh problem, anybody can post whatever they want and no one will be left to do unbiased investigative reporting. Shame on American’s for letting this happen to our newspapers.

      • Anonymous

        @timh3 do you know what is funny? As I was typing up my post, I thought nearly exactly the same thing. It is sad that we get short snippets and not in-depth, researched stories. I created the swanville.org website as part of a graduate class project, simply to get information about the town office (forms, hours, costs, etc) and to help town businesses have some sort of online listing.. I update it in my spare time and a few town officials update it as well. It is certainly not meant to replace a regional newspaper, but given the hole that will be left with VillageSoup’s demise, I hope it gives people in our town some way to get news out and connect with each other.

        By the way, I have a paid subscription to the VillageSoup. I used to post links back to their site on the swanville page.

  • Guest

    I hope that those of us who paid for an years subscription last month will be getting a refund?

    • Anonymous

      dont hold your breath

    • marie maccormack

      Dream on…he told his employees there were insufficient funds for severance packages, no one is getting anything except Mr. Anderson and his Attorneys and “Many Professional Advisors” whom he consulted and just couldn’t work up a plan…

      • Harry H Snyder III

        Subscription money MUST (under Maine and Federal law) be returned, just as paychecks must be met.  failing to repay these two debts remains a criminal offense in Maine.  This group of publications should have maintained insurance to cover mandated repayments.

        • Guest

          I wonder about the grant to developed web news for $885K?
          Where did that go?

  • Anonymous

    Too bad.  Here in Disgusta, they covered local stories such as Eagle Scout projects that you rarely see in the other “local” paper, the Kennebec Journal.

  • Anonymous

    Really sad to see the ‘LOCAL VOICES’ in newsprint be ‘squandered’…local papers are part of local culture…sad to see the ‘mono-blend’…and then FAILURE…as…is not surprising…but very ‘PERSONAL’…and very disappointing for these local hard working and LOYAL to the PAPER…and the ‘COLD” door…coming from the ‘executive’ /owners!

  • I’m not sure the BH Times will be revived, even after 98 years, it was always going to be tough in an area this small with 2 weeklies.    It was inevitable that either the Times or the Islander would have to cease publication.

    • Anonymous

      Be thankful for the Ellsworth American

  • Anonymous

    Too late now, but I wonder what the news landscape would have been like this morning had Richard Anderson never left Chicago. Would the Courier still be a locally-owned thrice weekly? Would the BDN still have a local bureau? Would the Camden Herald still be kicking? It might be said that the initial VS website — Ligature they called it then — was a virus that ultimately killed local journalism. Sure seems that way.

    As far as shutting down late on a Friday, with no notice, emailed pink slips, etc., that’s exactly what the lawyers tell you to do. Such is life, and insurance, that you have to reduce the opportunity for disgruntled employees to take out their anger on the equipment and facilities and yes, management to the absolute minimum. It’s about risk, not about class.

    Sorry. I’m not condoning it.  It’s just the way it is.

    • Weren’t all the papers that Village Soup acquired already owned by Courier Publications? Which was itself an out of state company (South Carolina if i remember correctly)  I am pretty sure none of these papers have been “Independent” for the last 15 years or so.   I do believe that you are correct, had these still been independent local papers,  at least some of them might still be in print after today.

      • marie maccormack

        True they were bought by people in SC, but it wasn’t until Mr. Anderson bought the papers he immediately merged and shut some of them down then everything went to bad…

    • marie maccormack

      And to that I say…want to Lawyer up well you better have some good ones because when you start premeditating and scheming and discussion before the facts legal mistakes are bound to arise…And for every paid Attorney on his side there are dedicated Attorneys on the side of the public interest and Constitutional Rights of the slighted employees and the State of Maine that he has just dumped 56 people on for Food Stamps and Unemployment and not to forget Federal Retraining Programs.  Best of Luck to the Jerk!

  • Harry H Snyder III

    Real News came from independent newspapers.  The golden era of NEWS was between the turn of the last century and 1974. 

    News on the internet will be much more sterile without the papers which did the bulk of the real investigative reporting. 

  • Anonymous

    Sad for the employees to lose their jobs. But even worse to have such a villain like Betts writing this article about it. He did more to damage the community behind his VS desk than any other individual.

    • Guest

      Why do you believe that to be the case?

    • Anonymous

      Bravo!  More true words could not be spoken! In the public business world, his move to the BDN would be considered a form of insider trading. In the vacation business, he would be like the captain, who abandoned his ship, leaving all else on board to fend for themselves, while he was responsible for having crashed it on the rocks. Too bad about the Soup. I for one enjoyed not having to see his liberal editorial rantings.

      • marie maccormack

        Steve left because the ax as falling all around him on some of the most dedicated employees, Mr. Anderson let go senior staff and replaced them with lower waged employees so why not leave while you can.  I don’t blame him, it is heartbreaking when you hang on to the ship and it is rocking so hard just to knock off personally…

  • Briney

    It’s sad when a community loses a  newspaper.  Even sadder when four  local newspapers fold. Its tragic.  

  • This guy shut down a lot of newspapers and don’t care about the employees at all. He sells the building and makes money and probably moves on to do it somewhere else. Then there is no severances. Newspaper needs local people to own and run it. There is a whole list of newspapers in the area that were closed. Got to work on bringing some of them back. I was sad about Mr. Paperback closing. 

  • Anonymous

    I am going to take a stab at the tally of all the newspapers Richard Anderson has killed off:

    Knox County Times,Village Soup Citizen, Waldo Independent , Republican Journal, Bar Harbor Times, Capitol Weekly, Camden Herald, Courier Gazette The Scene.

    This from the man who talked about sustainable Journalism. Richard Anderson talking about Journalism , is like a dog looking at money on the sidewalk. He knows it is something important , but doesn’t really know what it is or what it is for.

    • Anonymous

       left out Herald Gazette and Village Soup Gazette……

    •  There are 8 out of state papers listed on the Village Soup website, not sure if they are closing too.  I assume they are.

    • Anonymous

      Worse than just killing them, he first subjected them (and his readership) to lengthy torture.

  • Anonymous

    In the Midcoast we have our Free weekly “good news” paper “The Free Press” and though not a regular “news” paper, it does cover many local issues and events and keep us up to date with the goings on around the area. It is free to the public due to local merchant advertising and could conceivably grow it’s News section if advertisers were supportive.
    I for one, was never impressed by the newspaper side of the original Courier and even less by the Village Soup as there was not a lot of depth or breadth to the information. I mainly checked it’s website for breaking  local stories and the immediacy of public comments. I hope that this loss of our historic newspaper will translate, at least here in the mid coast, to an expansion of the excellent reporting and editorials in The Free Press. It’s really up to our business community and our consuming habits as to whether that is important enough to be able to increase the budget needed for a few extra pages and some good journalists/reporters.

    • Guest

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    • Guest

      Sad about VS.  Spineless on Anderson’s part.

      Freepress = excellent on all fronts.

  • Anonymous

    that was a nice way to FIRE everyone …………spineless

  • Anonymous

    If you didn’t like it, don’t read it.

  • Anonymous

    I can see closing it was a business decision, but blindsiding your workers, where some were still interviewing people for new positions then waiting to send a email out during dinner time is unimaginable.  Mr. Anderson could have had the balls to call managers to call all the employees first before releasing a press release, some of these hard workers found out they lost there jobs by friends reading these articles

  • I guess the business model of giving away for free online a product you charge for in print isn’t working out so well.  Thanks to the internet, print newspapers are going the way of the buggy whip industry.  Personally the only newspapers I pay for are the Wall Street Journal (which doesn’t give its content away online) and The Daily (which is only available on iPad).
     
    Newspaper folks need to adapt or go extinct.  How much longer should we give the BDN?
     

    • Anonymous

      Yes.  The only news I subscribe to anymore is the WSJ and Barron’s, both online, and the only magazine is the New Yorker, in print.  Most everything else I can read free online.

    • Anonymous

      People like you are part of the problem. You think you can learn everything from the WSJ onwht you read on line. Pretty soon there won’t be any newspapers to stand up for the citizens – Facebook won’t change the world to a better place.

  • MIchael D. Hurley

    last night I heard about all of the papers and sites demise while I had dinner with 4 people aged 24 and under. Not one had EVER bought a newspaper.

    • Sharon Mack

      I’ll bet those four also do not have children in school, do not pay property taxes, have never participated in a town meeting or council or selectmen’s meeting….once one grows up and matures, newspapers are the only place to get in-depth, accurate, unbiased information on the issues that affect our lives and our futures.

      • Anonymous

        Unbiased Sharon??? Come on get real. I know a reporter from BDN that is retired and only reported what she wanted to. Not the entire stories…just to sell her story and try to get front page

        • Sharon Mack

          NEVER was my goal to get the front page – never cared about placement at all, never cared about how many papers were sold. I was just the bottom line: the truth. Oftentimes when readers complain reporters didn’t tell the entire story it is because they just didn’t like the topic or others’ comments. I had no dog in the fight on any story I wrote. In fact, once I moved to Washington County, I had no history here, no bias, no personal opinion on what I wrote. I just told you what other people thought, what other people were doing, what other people were saying. Don’t lay your dispute with that at my front door. And you are right. I am now retired from the BDN and for the first time in 30 years, I DO get to express a personal bias or opinion. My opinion is this: do you want the whole news? in depth reporting? investigative reporting? Then SUPPORT a newspaper and its advertisers – don’t read on-line and play the blame game in the ANONYMOUS readers’ comments section. One reporter cannot cover all of Washington County. Two reporters cannot cover all of Aroostook County. Two reporters cannot cover all of Hancock County. Until daily newspapers have the financial stability to return to the days when FIVE reporters covered Washington County, there is always always going to be dissatisfaction regarding what and how local news is covered. I think is is extremely judgmental to assume I wrote for shock value or front page coverage. 99 percent of my work was the every day activities of the community. How often do you see a selectmen’s meeting get front page? Or the local school board? I wrote for YOU, not the placement nor the number of paper sales. I wrote for the reader, to keep the citizens informed about actions or rules or developments that would affect their daily lives, their wallets, their children’s educations. For no other reason. And Washingtoncntyboy, the vitriol and hate and insults so often spewed in the on-line ANONYMOUS readers’ comments was one of the primary reasons I retired and took the BDN buy out offer. So, congratulations, if you despise my 30 years of work, you won.

          • Anonymous

            Well said, Sharon.

          • Anonymous

            guilty conscious much? I do support and buy this newspaper while sipping my coffee in the sun while I too retired after 30 years in the military. Never said it was you..you did. 

          • Anonymous

            Very well said.

            There will always be a need for coverage of local news. Hopefully the news black hole that Mr. Anderson created over the past 15 years will be filled once again. And quickly.

          • Guest

            Your opinion is not news, get over yourself. Did you represent opinions from all sides of an issue?? If you didn’t then you are an opinionist not a reporter

          • Sharon Mack

            Did you read the post? I am RETIRED and therefore free to express my opinion, just like you.

          • Anonymous

            Sharon, Well said !!

          • I would totally expect someone who thinks all newspapers are fair and balanced to find long term employment at the BDN.  Every major newspaper in this country leans heavily in one direction.  Most of them are liberal which explains why so many of them are dying.  It was never latte drinking liberals who were keeping the papers afloat.   The papers becoming more and more liberal and then going belly up is not coincidence.  

            Same thing with talk radio.  Who is the liberal Rush Limbaugh?  Who is the liberal Mark Levin?  Who is the liberal Sean Hannity?  

            Answer?  There are none.  Because even liberals don’t want to listen to the garbage they spew.  Same with newspapers.  Obviously this country is full of liberals.  Full of them.  They might enjoy the commy spewings of their local papers but even they don’t pay to support them.  

            It is clear which side of the political aisle to blame the demise of newspapers on and to a lesser degree the inability of liberal talk radio to ever get of the ground.  Think about it.  Where do most liberals go for their liberal talk?  Public radio.  Free radio.  There are no liberal radio host who have any sort of juice.  None.  You had Al Franken who before becoming a US Senator from Minnesota (Liberals must be so proud) he helped drive Air America into the ground.  Amazing how all of these idiots who can’t keep or in Obama’s case get a job, are supposed to fix America.  Laughable.  Absolutely laugh out loud, laughable.  

          • Guest

            Maybe you should just continue to watch Fox News !! Did you know that they are “fair and balanced” ?

          • Fair and balanced might be the slogan of Fox news but it is something every media outlet should strive to be.  The fact that Fox has chosen it as their catch phrase doesn’t give liberal media outlets a pass to go in the other direction.  

          • Guest

            It is something Fox News should strive for as the are the greatest example of conservative media bias. The only major liberal media outlet that I know of on TV is MSNBC. The others are fairly balanced. the problem with Conservatives is that they call every media outlet except Fox News “The Liberal Media”! Sorry I don’t buy it, You will have to tell that one to yourself or one of your kind.

        • Sharon Mack

          Wait a minute – after a bit of reflection, I realize that my 30+ years in journalism have made me biased. I am biased against those who careen around our roads, texting, drinking, or just plain not paying attention and then take their own or others lives in horrific crashes. I am biased against those who would destroy families and steal our children by selling drugs.  I am biased against people who leave their curling iron plugged in or the clothes dryer on or start woodstoves with gasoline, and then lose everything – sometimes themselves – to devastating fires. I’m biased against any town or school official that makes a financial decision that will negatively affect our children’s and grandchildren’s ability to succeed. I’m biased against sitting by myself in hundreds, probably thousands, of empty rooms before city councils, selectmen, school boards, while those who choose not to come and participate in the process have MUCH to say around the counter at the coffee shop the next day. I’m even a bit biased against Mother Nature when she pummels Mainers who are already struggling so hard to survive, with floods, winds, blizzards.

          And I’m very biased about the amazing, unlimited opportunities I see for the people of Maine who choose to GET INVOLVED and set a course for success. I am biased in favor of police officers, firefighters, National Guardsmen, those serving overseas in the military, EMTS who pull us from our wrecked cars, the ladies that run the food banks, the people who donate to Coats for Kids, fuel funds, summer camp scholarships. I could continue to days. There.  I guess I am biased.

          • Anonymous

            Sharon, Well said again.
            We need more people like you speaking out.

    • Anonymous

      That’s part of the problem. The younger generation is not reading the newspapers. They seem to think they can learn everything from social media or 30 seconds on TV or radio.
      Ask them how many books they’ve read in the last 30 days?  How are they going to learn anything if they stop reading and learning.

      • Anonymous

        The “younger generation”, historically, did not read newspapers, even when there were newspapers to read that evidenced jouralism at its finest – or worst. Don’t globalize and say the entire “younger generation” is not reading newspapers.

  • Anonymous

    Typically I would feel bad for a business that goes under. However, for such a anti military, anti-law enforcement paper that just can not wait to jump on the mistake of our fine soldiers who are doing a hard…very hard job. I dont feel bad for the owners. As for the employees, I feel bad for them and the families…except the writers who wrote negative things about our local/state law enforcement officers “just because it sells”. How does it feel now… 

  • so much for the so-called corporate job creators

  • Anonymous

    It’s sad how these people lost their job; but it gives some young entrepreneurs a chance to get in on a media market that’s needing print. Perhaps they can do it correct. 

  • Anonymous

    You made a personal attack, a poorly veiled one at that, and that is certainly not behavior becoming of a member of the military.

  • Anonymous

    me too.  I subscribed to the Camden Herald for years.  It was liberal, but I liked the local news coverage.  When Village Soup bought the Herald, I continued for a few years and eventually  dropped the subscription, not because it was free online, but because I didn’t like the format or anything else about the paper.  It just wasn’t very well done.

    • Guest

      So by buying the liberal rag , you helped keep it printing this long, shame, shame

      • Anonymous

        You have a reading comprehension problem.  I didn’t help keep it printing “this long”.  I dropped the subscription a few years after Village Soup bought the Herald.

      • Guest

        Buy a Conservative rag , The Downeast Coastal Press out of Cutler is still operating.

  • Guest

    Contraire to Obama news reports that people are hiring, what happened here is businesses are doing poorly and some are closing.. Companies are not doing the advertizing they use to.. If a paper can’t sell ads it can’t stay in business.. Obama forgot to say that the new jobs created were fast food jobs that kids left and needed to be refilled..  All of the Towns that lost there newspapers are towns that voted for Obama an prefer green spaces to factory jobs which produce spenders.. You don’t need papers anyway, there are places on the internet that can tell you what to think, say and spew. 

    • Guest

      Do you have an Obama fixation ?

  • Anonymous

    The governor of Maine has nothing to do with newspapers closing – its has to do with people who just don’t care what is going on and not reading anything except what they find on the social media.  When people stop reading and advertisers stop advertising because of it, we will soon lose our way of life. As well as keeping people informed about local news, the newspapers kept bureaucrats and politicians in check. As time goes on there will be only one or two big newspapers whom, in the wrong hands, could control all the media and what we are informed of.

    • Guest

  • Anonymous

    Are the also stopping the website?

  • Anonymous

    Definitely a sad day for Maine. I hate to see the loss of yet another old time Maine tradition, the small town newspaper.

    Sign of the times though, mainly killed by the internet.

  • call the Koch boys. they could make it into a rightwingnut rag.

  • Guest

    I  am guessing the employees didn’t even try to help save the paper.. evil owners !!!!! give me give me give me goes the fiction writers….

  • Going to miss the Bar Harbor Slime.  A dollar a week to line my cats litter box seemed like a heck of a deal.  

    • Guest

      Brilliant Statement. Buy a scoop and a plastic box, then try washing the box out when you dump it. Does your cat like you ?

    • Jason Simonds

       .. I suppose it is beyond you, that your comment shines more light on you than it does your target.

  • Anonymous

    How about a Midcoast Daily, Weekly, Monthly?

  • Anonymous

    deleted

  • Anonymous

    when are the  newsprint folks gonna get that  even though liberals are the majority conservatives still have alot of purchasing power and they are not gonna spend money on a liberal rag,stop with the bias and you will sell more papers don’t and die.

    • Guest

      Wow!!! None of those papers would even be considered “Political” let alone “Liberal. When will people like you stop attacking anything or anybody that doesn’t think exactlly like a right wing conservative extremist !!! Maybe you should just hush up, listen to Rush Limbaugh, and continue to watch “Rush Approved” coed videos on the web !

      • Anonymous

        Nice personnel attack ,a conservative poster would have been banned from comments for a month.But what else should you expect from a left wing biased site owned by a liberal paper.

        • Guest

          Not a personal attack. Just a general attack on “righties”……Unless you feel guilty ? Then you could mistake it as a personal attack.

    • Jason Simonds

       .. what Pastdowneast says….

  • Anonymous

    What is the matter, The “Donald” couldnt write another million dollar check to save another liberal rag?

    Where is Chellie when you need her!

    • Jason Simonds

       Why the need to make this political… next thing, you’ll be blaming Obama for the demise… sheesh…

  • Anonymous

    I’m sad as I moved from the MidCoast  and I like to keep up on hometown news,not any more I guess.

    • Anonymous

      You can get a the Free Press subscription and Coastal Journal is still printing too

  • The closing of the Bar Harbor Times sends shock waves all the way out here to San Francisco earthquake country. It was the Times (at its ironclad former location on Main Street) which published the Islander, the yearbook for the (also erstwhile) Bar Harbor High School.  And it was the Times which got me started in journalism, a habit which still sustains me. Ed Shea must be shedding tears of nostalgia in his grave.

    • Anonymous

      It’s a terrible thing to see local newspapers with centuries of history get shut down so swiftly. Right now even the Village Soup web sites seem to be offline, though I’m hoping that’s not permanent.

      BDN, you have a fabulous opportunity here. I live in Camden and have been a daily visitor to Village Soup, and as subscriber, for very many years. I’m now available! But you have to beef up your coverage of the Midcoast and I’d sure appreciate it if you  also cracked down on idiot comments. I don’t mean editing every comment, but I do mean making it harder to comment anonymously. Please limit comments to registered and validated readers. If you want to charge a subscription to comment, I don’t have problem with that, and, in fact, it may be the only way I subscribe. Can you hear me, BDN, amongst all this noise?

  • marie maccormack

    Thank you washingtoncntyboy for your dedication and service to the people of the United States of  America including protecting Sharon’s right to speak even if not clearly all those years…oops did that sound Liberal…sorry…

  • marie maccormack

    Oh I see you were allowed to express yourself and move freely throughout the country and have the freedom to criticize Mr. Semper Fi and for that you can thank him/her and also be grateful they have chosen to continue to protect this great country by working for the in house security agency FBI….I thought that was what you were getting at …a Thank You…

  • Anonymous

    Geez no more letters to the editor??!!! Lol. How about this folks. A staewide news organization that covers local news and information of interest? Yes that enables a fair and balanced exchange of views and the public discourse continues. Hmmm I think it’s called the BDN Maine. So go ahead and criticize all you want but this rag is putting out the best journalism in the state. If you don’t understand that then you’ll get what you deserve.

  • Anonymous

    The Village NetMedia shut down is starting to seem strange and angry. The community web sites are already shut down, though it would have cost almost nothing to leave them up for a while. What happened?  Where are folks discussing it?

    • Anonymous

       Sorry for your pain.
       I noticed that a new story got posted after the announcement late Friday which made me think the website would stay up. I am thinking how weird it will be for the employees to have to go in Monday morning to empty their desks.

  • Anonymous

    Newspapers are published for the purpose of selling advertising. Those that do not understand that, go out of business. Websites too!

    The print side is where the profit is. A good news paper can gather the very local news and have the exclusive product to sell advertising in.

    Before Richard Anderson got involved, there was enough of a market for 3 newspapers to sell advertising and make a profit in Knox County.

  • What about those of us who subscribe? Are we going to get our money back? I just started my subscription 1 month ago paid for 6 months.

  • RoostookGuy

    People sure drink a lot in Maine.

  • Scot Cunningham

    The Ellsworth American, now Maine’s oldest weekly, is still going strong.  How is that?

  • HowdyNeighbor

    Very sad but if a company can’t keep up with technology, it will ultimately fail.

  • Anonymous

    The best paper in ME is the Citizen Journal, pick up your FREE copy at your local restaurant.

  • Anonymous

    “Employees were notified by email late Friday, according to two employees. There will be no severance, according to the employees.”

    Reprehensible , spineless, unprofessional, and heartless.  Just another example of the profound lack of leadership in the world.

    • Anonymous

      Gutless wonder.

  • Anonymous

    This may not be sad news.  Those newspapers flat-lined a few years back, lost their intimacy and passion and joy.  Perhaps now some high-spirited folks with real heart and grit will bond together and start a newspaper that we can all take pride in and feel a part of.  

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