Comments for: Tribal court on Indian Island works to solve problems, not deal with symptoms

Posted March 07, 2012, at 6:57 p.m.
Last modified March 07, 2012, at 7:15 p.m.

INDIAN ISLAND | About a dozen people lined the back of the courtroom Wednesday morning. While they waited for the judge to convene the arraignment session, most spoke with Stephen Brimley, director of the Penobscot Nation Judicial System.“I wouldn’t call the judge ‘Judy’ if I were you,” he joked …

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  • Anonymous

    Wonder just how much this justice court costs the taxpayers?, Also who pays if a member gets
    a prison sentence, in that the Tribe has no tax base, therefore no money.

    • Right. We already took a majority of their land, now let’s make them pay to house their criminals.

      • Anonymous

        That might be okay, if we  had given the The Penobscot Nation  The Hollywood Casino of Maine  too, but as it is you just sound like a disgruntled tenant, not a stake holder. 
        Shame on you. 

        Why not just move, if you don’t like it ? 
        Why don’t you go back to where your people came from and be happy,  for a change ? 

        Of course if you had your way, then you’d whine their jail, which just holds tribal members ( real people they know and understand) is better, more humane, than that the State of Maine’s. 

        I am tired of bigotry, or cynical irony about bigotry, as the case might be, getting a pass. 

        I think we should call the bigotry out wherever we find it by being positive,
        and think of doing that as political campaigning.

        Then  we progressives would have the moral high ground, instead of diversionary religions,  in our land where your freedom of religion ALSO means we should be free from  both the religion and bigotry of  the common old bigots. 

        Have a good day, Ms. Carlton.  : )

        What a nice article, and I like the notion that the Penobscot Nation is making the best values  that I  learned growing up on banks of the Penobscot River more real. 
        Good on ya.
        Back then I loved that dirty water. 
        But its condition was a sin and a shame, too.
        It’s  better now, too, people gather there in the summer to celebrate our culture, now.
        So we are doing plenty of good. 

        Now, I’m proud of our River, our Valley, and my good neighbors. 
        Even if it is just a good start, we need to remember all good we have done already . 

        With patience and good will we can make the New Broader Penobscot Nation a place of respect and honor, real Yankee honor, or otherwise, no matter, because honor is honor,
        like the Penobscot Tibal Court is already doing, from Mount Katahdin to the far Islands
        of Penobscot and Frenchman’s Bay. 

        I think regional energy independence is the key.
        It would be hard, I know, but I remember when they said there is no point in trying to clean up the River because that could never be done, too.

      • Anonymous

         The Indian Land claims were settled in the early 80’s if I am not mistaken.

        • If that’s what is required for you to feel better about Anglo-American usurpation, by all means. I bet you also believe slavery wasn’t that bad because we let them all go.

      • Anonymous

        Many nations were defeated through out time, but at least we Americans allowed some to live, rather then what today’s tribes did to the ‘Red Paint’ Indians who were here before them, who were needlessly killed. All we asked is that you assimilate into our culture. That”s really not too much to ask. All other’s have been able to melt into this society. But for some reason the Tribes have not been able to. Also, even though you were defeated in battle, we still came back and paid you for the land in question, and you excepted this payment, so my question is why do we have to continue supporting you financially? At some point, the Tribes need to become self supporting. 

    • Anonymous

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    • Anonymous

      I was just thinking that is the government the TEA Partiers  want, but of course, they are often bigots too, and don’t feel like others are members of their tribe… real Americans.

      • Guest

        I have the dual distinction of being a member of First Nations who is also a Tea Party crasher so I am well aware of bigotry and misrepresentations.  Like Native people who have been abused for hundreds of years by the “well meaning” ,we know what’s best for you US Govt., Tea Party folks are fed up with more interference in our lives, diminishing freedoms , and being labled just because we have different approaches to the size of  government.  While I am suspicious of most people of European blood , I am also alarmed about being called a bigot.  As any political group in our society , there are always those who have fringe members who who do not speak for the majority.  Liberals who call us bigots would go ballistic should we label them Communists! Correction, maybe they would take that as a badge of honor!   Now that you have  taken our lands, committed widespread genocide ,   placed us on the lowest rungs of the food chain ladder , please let us run our own lives. We were not the savages!

        • Anonymous

          But read what I actually wrote.
          I was careful to NOT to call anyone who is not, a bigot.
          If you think otherwise, name who you think I called a bigot, but is not one, please.
          The truth is a positive defense.

          I’ve always figured that if people go ballistic
          there must a personal reason behind it.
          Especially, given the names the Tea Drinkers* call others …
          * (I think of it as the new Kool-Aid, btw)
          …. like Sen. Snowe, a life long traditional Aroostook County Republican
          and the people’s choice, being a RINO , for just one light, polite but undeniable example of biased foolish name calling.

          But I’m very tempted to wonder if you could properly be said to like a coyote
          given how you stepped right into the spring trap, that I set and baited.

          But the more important point is who are the really name callers ?

          Figure that out for yourself… everyone..
          And Look at you, you are free to walk your own path.
          But remember, I’m’ not 0nly free to suggest you seem a bit lost,
          but it might even be my duty to do so, once in while.

          So are you agreeing with my real point about bigotry: 

          ” I am tired of bigotry, or cynical irony about bigotry, as the case might be, getting a pass. 

          I think we should call the bigotry out wherever we find it by being positive, and think of doing that as political campaigning.”? 

          …. or not, and or just spinning the words for political reasons ? 

          If the former, work on being more positive, my friend.

        • Anonymous

          “I” didn’t take anyone’s land or commit genocide. I’m still waiting for the English to pay me back for killing most of my highland family 700 years ago.

    •  Talk to your Fearless leaders!!!! Lapage? Really should of Bought it… when I saw it… at my funk stores!

    • Mary Stubbs

      Don’t worry, it doesn’t cost as much as state court. Most programs are under by BIA, or grants. Criminals are housed at Penobscot Count jail. Non Indian crimes cost the tax payer A LOT more than Native crimes. Hope you can sleep better tonight now.

  • outsiders of our tribe have to understand that our laws and government is more about our people and our sovereignty.  Some of our laws differ from State laws and even federal laws. I for one have fought for my rights as an Native to my lands, and the State of “MAINE” can not understand our ways….our rights…and our structure! Everyone needs to understand that our tribal government is more knowledgeable then state. We are here for many years and the years that we fought is still in an uproar!!!! let us live, let us breath and let us show the state of Maine how our lands should be run.  

  • Anonymous

    welfare court !

  • Anonymous

    Native American people are, in fact, different in many ways. Without going into a shameful history of what the “Christian Settlers” did to them, they deserve any and all opportunities to get some kind of justice. Good for the good people who realize the need for this court and long may it stand as a way of appreciating the people who founded America.

  • Anonymous

    It’s interesting that whenever there’s an article about the Penobscot Nation, even a great article like this one, there’s always people who have to wonder how much are the taxpayers being affected, and of course all the other same ole songs about welfare, and this and that…  Maybe it’s each person’s responsibility to educate themselves about FACTS rather than the perpetuation of stereotypes.  It’s become obvious that some people don’t want to know facts, and don’t want to acknowledge the tribes’ progress.  They prefer to spout off the same ole misinformation.  How does that make YOU look?

  • Anonymous

    judge takum beads and wampum

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