June 21, 2018
Bangor Latest News | Poll Questions | Family Separations | Boston TV | LePage Troops

Comments for: Disorderly teenager charged at Hope House, police say

Guidelines for posting on bangordailynews.com

The Bangor Daily News and the Bangor Publishing Co. encourage comments about stories, but you must follow our terms of service.

  1. Keep it civil and stay on topic
  2. No vulgarity, racial slurs, name-calling or personal attacks.
  3. People who harass others or joke about tragedies will be blocked.
The primary rule here is pretty simple: Treat others with the same respect you'd want for yourself. Here are some guidelines (see more):

  • Anonymous

    You mean disorderly adult….

    • Anonymous

      Thank You.

  • Guest

    Five years ago this guy was in the 8th or 9th grade. How many of our young people are going down this road?-way too many. We better find a program that  we can afford to turn the tide -or we’ll be adding on multiple wings  in Warren. 19 is too late, we need to get to these young men before they can grow a beard and pretend they are tough guys..

    • Anonymous

      You can show a horse to water but you cant make em drink it

      • Guest

        That’s cute, but we have a city full of these guys now. It’s going to take some real action not quaint quips to keep the rest of us and our families safe.

        • Anonymous

          You can start by closing the methadone clinics.

          • Guest

            Problem solved, we’re all safe now.

          • Harry H Snyder III

            This story says the subject was drunk… Do we close the liquor stores too? What about the Pharmacies that sell a large portion of the diverted drugs which make it to the street?

            Absolutely I’m in favor of closing the methadone clinics, but that is not a total solution.

          • Anonymous

            That’s why I said “start”.

          • Harry H Snyder III

            But why “start” at methadone clinics for this young man who was not on methadone.  The story says he was “drunk” so in this case shouldn’t liquor be the focus?

          • Anonymous

             Harry Harry Harry!

             Bangor has become the focus of all that’s wrong with an entitlement system gone wrong with the 2200 plus addicts coming to town EVERY DAY for their fix.

             As I recall, you are retired from one of these entitling agencies, and that tells me that you have observed this downfall from the perspective an insider.
             You’re also (IMHO) old enough, intelligent enough, and just conservative enough to see the damages done to our society when personal responsibility is thrown out the window.

             Methadone clinics are just one of the most blatant examples of not requiring one to take responsibility for thier own actions.
             Young people see this and think “gee, if I get addicted, the state will help me out”.

             Liquor, opiates, bath salts, crystal meth…………all these poisons are interchangeable labels that signify a much larger problem that is not only being condoned by failed state policy, but is being encouraged.

          • Harry H Snyder III

            I don’t know that looking at methadone clinics influences young non-drug taking children.  I don’t remember looking at Skid-row in New York City (where I was raised) and thinking; “Now that must be the life… I want to sleep on the sidewalk in my own urine when I grow up.

            I do agree that the social programs created by the government do almost no appreciable good, I’m just not ready to say that ALL OF THEM do harm.

            My point revolves around the fact that the most effective way for an alcoholic to get sober and stay sober is AA which takes no government funds.  It also requires that the affected person get to the program and make an effort. 

            I distrust ANY program which claims to be there to “help” with a certain behavior, then passes the buck to cops when they find themselves unable to manage their clients.  Many of Maine’s “residential treatment centers” that claim to “repair” disturbed children do the same thing.  If I were D.H.H.S. commissioner, they would lose their State contracts.

          • Anonymous

            I’ve had some involvement with friends that are in the methadone program, and their children actually see it as being a normal, everyday part of life.
             What kind of future is that encouraging these kids to persue?

             The urge to escape reality is there in all of us to some degree as well as the threat to become addicted, and we have a system that enables it by arbritrarly supporting these bad habits with no requirement to change for the better.

             It doesn’t matter what your choice of poison is, there is somebody from the state there with a check and a shoulder to cry on when what is really needed is somebody to give them a good stern lecture about personal responsibility.

             

        • Anonymous

          It starts by people in the community being aware of their surroundings at all times, locking doors, not putting yourselves in a bad position, not being afraid to defend ones self (Smith and Wesson, and being legally armed) if and when the time is fully warranted, (your life or someone close to you is at stake), and if enough people conduct themselves this way instead of being scared little bunny rabbits like the liberals want us to be, maybe people can make a difference. After a while the bad guys will hopefully figure out there may be some self critiquing issues for committing crimes that don’t include the court system.

          • Anonymous

            Gee I’m a liberal and I have a gun and I am not afraid to use it cmy6. I just think having and gun and being responsible with it so it doesn’t end up in the hands on some kid or some person with a prison record can’t buy one or someone with mental disease can’t buy one is a good thing. You said something smart up there^ but now your just rambling. Keep politics out of it and lets work together to find a better solution than what we’ve been using.

          • Anonymous

            Politics have everything to do with it. Judges are appointed by the political party that has power at the time of vacancy. Since the liberals have been in power for many years we must reap what we’ve sowed. Today criminals have more rights than their victims.

          • Anonymous

             Judges should have to run for their job like they do in some states.If they do a crappy job they get voted out!

          • Anonymous

            You would think people would vote their lawmakers out. If lawmakers didn’t leave sentencing up to the judges, criminals would be in jail for a longer time. Drive without a license, get 3 years. Molest a child, get 6 months. View child porn on the computer, get 15 years. Why is it that when there is a victim there is less jail time?

          • Anonymous

            Don’t let your liberal friends know you have a gun, they will take you off their christmas card list.

        • Anonymous

          Complete safety is not possible.

          • Anonymous

            Yes but more safety is just a matter of pulling the trigger

          • Anonymous

            luck does favor the well prepared [or well armed]

      • Anonymous

        Apparently the water he was led to was probably beer or rum.

    • Anonymous

      I was a dedicated school person who took my responsibilities seriously and helped to shape these kids attitudes and goals when they were younger, but then the formulas came out that said that when the enrollment dropped, staffed libraries should be cut.  The thing is, I wasn’t just the librarian. I was the person who knew these children the best as they were with me for more than one year or one grade. By the time they left my school I knew them very well. Shortsighted planning does this.

    • Anonymous

      The program is called parenting and it is sad that so many have failed at it.

      • Harry H Snyder III

        Sorry, but I know way too many children who had lousy parents but grew up to be fine citizens….including my own father who might as well have been raised by wolves.

        My father’s parents were self absorbed, dishonest, stingy, irresponsible, and devoid of love and kindness.  My father was a polar opposite.  Go figure.

        I have also known some GREAT parents who raised horrible offspring. 

        • Anonymous

          Point taken

        • Anonymous

          There are exceptions to every rule but by and large good parenting skills HELP to nurture children to be well adjusted productive members of society.Lousy parents ,no parents ,abusive parents tend to nurture their offspring to places like the hope house, jail,bmhi.

          • Harry H Snyder III

            Yes, and there are rules for every exception…..except my observation is that “the exception” is the delinquent child who grows into a criminal adult. 

            Most children THE MAJORITY OF CHILDREN grow up to be well adjusted productive members of society.  This is without regard to how they were raised.

            I’ve got cites and figures if you are interested.  I’m @ hhs3@37(dot)com

    • Mary Stubbs

      We better find a program!? Parents need to start doing a better job of parenting. We don’t need more government run programs!

      • Guest

        My first job out of college was as a 9th grade teacher-over 30 years ago. You could see kids then that you just knew had nothing at home. It’s worse today. I agree, I don’t like government programs either, but wouldn’t it be cheaper to get to these kids when they are in Middle School or High School. I gurantee you that some  form of intervention is way cheaper than a 10 year stay at Warren.

  • Anonymous

    Another up standing community member of Bangor!

  • Anonymous

    This is just the beginning. Our standards of conduct, personal responsibility, and parenting have gone in the dumper a long time ago and this is the result. It’s happening all over the country as well as here. I won’t play the blame game because I’ll only get flamed by the usual folks here.

    • Anonymous

      27 likes for you, my friend!

    • Anonymous

      Anybody with a brain can look at this kid, read his age and his situation and realize that he got dealt a lousy hand in his life.     It’s easy to get all judgmental, make jokes and overgeneralize.

      • Guest

        What are you doing for him?

        • Anonymous

          His parents ought to go to jail for raising him this way

          • Anonymous

            raised him what way? hes 19 and was drunk at an ALCOHOL shelter. If this is the worst hes done i think hes ok.

          • Anonymous

            If you think this is the worst he has done you can stick your head back in that hole.  This is just the tip of the iceberg for these people they end up at Hope House because they have burned their bridges with their friends and family by using and abusing them.  This young man is 19 his parents have alot to do with is choices up to this point.

        • Anonymous

          Bangorian is not knocking a stranger when he’s down and out. 

          19? This poor kid looks like he’s seen his share of difficulties. What are you doing for him, “keek?” 

          • Guest

            I have hope for him. I hope he gets the punisment he deserves, be it light or heavy. That’s what I’m doing for him.

          • Anonymous

            …..I truely believe that inbreeding would have resulted in a better picture

      • poormaniac

        As with any hand dealt in life he can always opt to fold instead of play.

  • Anonymous

    if there was a program lepage would take it away

    • Anonymous

      So his misdeeds are the fault of Gov. LePage, why don’t you just blame it on Bush. The path he took was determined long before LePage was elected, so my guess would be that the programs in place when Baldacci was Gov. probably failed him.

      • Harry H Snyder III

        No, if he is 19, he was born during the administration of John McKernan.

        Seriously;  if the Hope House is a program for dealing with people on drugs and alcohol, Why can they not deal with this person? 

        There is an inherent evil in bringing people into a neighborhood with a promise of help, when in fact the agency is unprepared to deal with fall out.  If I was a neighbor, I would labor long and hard to get Hope House moved or closed.

        • Anonymous

          Now figure his age through each administration and his years that he would have been most influenced to shape his current behavior would probably have been the last eight years, the Baldacci years.

          • Harry H Snyder III

            Actually you need a “Child Development” course.  U Maine has a good one. 

            The first three years of life are the most important in the development of character, interpersonal relations and attachment.

      • poormaniac

        It’s easy for the liberals to go ahead and blame the republicans . I suppose if abortion was free and open and he had been aborted we would not have to deal with this problem…….Whats wrong with this thinking turning this into something political. Crime affects us all , both parties , criminals ( except those in Washington ) don’t play political favoritism . I have never read an article where a perp had taken time to ask the victim what political party affiliation he had before perpetrating the crime. Some people shouldn’t be allowed to operate a keyboard.

  • Anonymous

    It appears the Hope House does not offer much hope……this poor soul appears hopeless.

  • Guest

    Some people have No Dreams or Hope of a normal life and only live from day to day.. It’s sad but real and there is nothing that can change it… Tomorrow, next week,month and year there will be more out there homeless and messed up. Do you want to know why, because there are some in this world who want it all, every last dime. at the cost of Humanity… Good luck folks..

    • Anonymous

       Do you live in a tent and whine about the 1%?

  • Anonymous

    There is only one way to make this tragedy end. That is to close those methadone clinics down. In what way have they improved our society here in Maine? I know so many kids who have died because the answer is to give them more drugs? Come on now there a much better way then this. It’s called clean and sober. Try NA or AA they work so much better. In the old days when you got to your rock bottom you either stayed there or you struggled your way back to reality. The fight made you try harder to remain clean and sober.

    • Guest

       I agree. The only “Program” we need is better Parenting.

  • Anonymous

    Also I know better than most what it’s like to parent and work a job. I did it alone with three girls and but for the grace of God there go I. My kids managed to steer clear of this radical behavior but it was by the skin of my teeth. You need to try harder to parent your kids. You wanted them now make sure you help them find the answers to their problems that don’t involve drinking or drugging. That is your job after all right?

  • Guest

     I agree. The only “Program” we need is better parenting.

  • Anonymous

     “Teenager”?  He looks like a 40 year-old bedraggled cracked-out meth head.  Get him out of Maine.

    • Anonymous

      I was thinking the same thing. He’s only 19. What will he look like when he is 40? Ugh!

  • Guest

    Everyone want’s a program for people like this. I would like my tax dollars used to put him in jail. Excuses can be made for everything. This kid needs a time out to dry out. 

  • Anonymous

    A drunk 19 year old is our news story for everyone to get all high and mighty on? Who raised YOU?

  • Anonymous

    do I hear banjos  ?

  • Hey Caleb.  Herman Munster called and wants his haircut back

  • bdymaniam wrote: ” if there was a program lepage would take it away”

    I get it. Even though this isn’t Lepage’s fault, it still is. Brilliant.

    mainemomforsanity wrote: ” His parents ought to go to jail for raising him this way”

    What an ignorant statement. Although this may be where the fault lies, there are some kids that will never heed a parent’s guidance, and will outright refuse to halt their headlong rush to self-destruction.

    That being “said”, you all have an awesome day.

You may also like