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  • StillRelaxin

    Well we all know what Paul with say about this, “But-but-but I don’t want to follow the rules!”  For now just hand him a very large crying towel.  He’ll get over it in a few months.

    • We’ll hand the Feds a crying towel on their way back to DC.

      • StillRelaxin

        Ha! Let me tell you this lady isn’t some little girly wimp that you can hide behind a tree jump out and steal Halloween candy from. She’ll give Paulie a whooping that will leave the ENTIRE State of Maine rubbing their heads thinking, “Exactly how dumb can this man be?” That would be funny to see but I can’t hope for it because in the end it would be another very sad and painful day for Mainers who are suffering as well as another embarrassment for those of us who aren’t…yet.

        • jimbobhol

          Yawn!!!!!!

        • Your obvious hate for Gov Lepage seriouly clouds your judgement.  I would think you would like him since he was in office when medical marijuana was legalized.  You seem to smoke a lot of it.

  • Anonymous

    Not quite the same as telling Obama to Kiss my A– is it penguin.  After firing subordinate for dui arrest its a small p for a small and wretched bird indeed.

    • Anonymous

      Have you noticed?  Every time Mr. LePage has to fire somebody, he goes off on a Florida vacation.

      What’s that about?

      • Anonymous

        They don’t want him to open his big mouth.

  • Anonymous

    Sebelius is granting the waiver after all.  Pingree and the DEMS outright LIED to us!  Interesting that LePage was right all along on these waivers.  The only option left is to impose structural reforms to the Medicaid entitlement program to assure that Medicaid will stop sapping the life of the Maine taxpayer and other vital state departmental functions.

    • Anonymous

      Where does it say she is granting the waiver? She is offering to help but I didn’t see where it said she was granting any waivers.

      • Anonymous

        Even if it goes to 133% people are going to be bumped off of it which is a good thing.  They also intend to phase out hundreds of childless adults each month  which also is a good thing.  But more should be done to get this program either under control or starting to be dismantled for good.

        • Anonymous

          Keep slashing MaineCare. Then, when you lose your job and can’t afford health insurance, it will not exist for YOU.

          Suddenly, you will find yourself being categorized as a worthless fraud and a slacker by many regular Commenters on these pages. If you have children, the Commenters will assume you have always been poor and had children simply to get welfare benefits. If you have pets, you will be reviled for not giving them to the shelter to be euthanized the day you lost your job. You will be accused of having moved to the state to sop up our “generous” benefits (no matter if you and your family have lived here for generations).

          The Republican leaders are pushing a very ugly and destructive worldview on Maine and on America.

          • Anonymous

            It is not the governments right to give people free health insurance.  The people should have the choice to buy it.  They should not be provided health insurance paid for by the working people (Mainecare) and they should not be force into buying it either as NOBAMACARE forces folks to do.  No the Liberals are pushing a Welfare State with everyone jumping on the wagons becoming lazy bums wanting working folks like myself to pay for them.

          • Anonymous

            One day you might lose your job and not be able to find another.

            One day you might become disabled, or give birth to a disabled child. One of your children or grandchildren could become disabled.

            One day you or someone you love might need healthcare to survive, but have no way to afford a policy from a for-profit company, because their premiums must be sky-high in order to pay their CEOs’ multi-million dollar salaries.

            When that day comes, you might wonder why you worked so hard to prevent universal health insurance from coming to the US.

          • Anonymous

            I did lose my health benefits where I was working. I of course started looking for another job. I could not find one in that area and thus had to look to another area in order to find a job that paid well with benefits. I had to move. I had a child and I also had to sell my house    at break even price. 

            It never crossed my mind to remain where I was with not much possibility of improving my life or making my childs life better either. It never occured to me that somehow I could fill the void of what was lost with things like Medicare programs or food stamps. Perhaps that is just my way of thinking about things. 

            Life is not fair at times. I know people want it to be but it never will be.

            If my daughter ever lost her job and health benefits and could not find another job where she lived then she would be most welcome to stay with me until things got better for her. Sadly, not everyone has family willing to do that. I think in some ways social programs have allowed us to become less responsible in our own lives and for our own family members.

            My point? Medicare and Social Programs should exist for very well defined circumstances. People who qualify for it should meet very well defined guidelines.  It cannot be the first go  to for every person who runs into trouble.

          • Anonymous

            Many people do not have the savings, or the home equity, or the cognitive skills you possess, and thus do not have your flexibility.

            There are many people struggling against traumatic histories you can’t imagine. People who have IQ scores barely above the MR level. People with head injuries, and/or psychiatric illnesses. People whose traumatic home lives made it impossible for them to focus in school, and dropped out early. People who were turned on to drugs and alcohol by age 8 or 9  (when that terrible decision was truly not their own), quickly became addicted, and have never yet managed to do more than survive. People who need to stay in their current area in order to take care of ill family members. People whose precarious emotional functioning depends on staying near friends or family who look after them. People with a history of bad choices (or unfair convictions) that resulted in prison terms that disqualify them from many jobs.

            To that, add the fact that there are 4 or 5 unemployed people for every job in the US.

            I wish everyone were as capable of pulling themselves up by their bootstraps as you and I might be. Unfortunately, they are not. Every American citizen merits health care. I myself feel no need to like every American or approve of all their choices  in order to advocate for them. An America that chooses to ignore the health needs of millions of its citizens is a weak and ignoble America.

        • Anonymous

          The flip side of his cuts is that payments to hospitals are being cut as well.  Do you know what hospitals have to do to continue to operate?  They have to lay off medical staff, they have to increase their fees to insured people, they have to cut the pay of the staff that remains.  The trickle down effect of this is that these people will have less to spend, they’ll spend less at local stores, the economy in Maine will not rebound, tax revenues will decrease.  

          Is this more of your “good thing”?

          • Anonymous

            I don’t feel sorry for these people losing their MaineCare.  Most of these folks shouldn’t be on it to begin with.  It’s not our problem to pay for these people.  We have our own problems to worry about instead of taking care of everyone else.  It is time for these folks to get jobs. Time to make them self-sufficient and provide for themselves.  They need to take responsibility for them not being dependent on other taxpayers.

      • Anonymous

        I was just thinking the SAME thing…

    • Anonymous

      No she’s not.    She’s telling him that she is willing to help the state meet the federal standards,   and she’s also telling him that his proposal will not.

      She’s doing something that LePage refuses to do,  work with people.    And I will note that she has also indicated that she cannot get enough information from the governor,     now,  that sounds familiar.

      • Since WHEN did the Feds every bother to help?  Ask the folks of New Orleans how they feel about the Feds.  They are willing to come here because it will cause less of a fire storm in Maine, than in D.C., when they are proven wrong.

        • Anonymous

          I think that the Gov and his “advisors”  are so far out of whack with the direction that the country, through the affordable care act , is going  (i.e. mandated care for all) that the Federal HHS is stepping in. By being  a bull headed big mouth governor, Lepage pushed the envelope  so far that  HHS is now in the house to oversee the game. I am psyched that there will be overseers overseeing our lawmakers.  Our governor and his advisors need  the OVERSIGHT!  And, btw, this will be a true litmus test for what the actual appetite is in cutting people off from the rosters of Medicaid,  in the spirit of  the looming ACA.

          • The ACA will be squashed when Oloser is voted out in NOV.  And if you really believe the Feds would come here to help us out, you are sadly naive.  They know they are wrong, and they would come here for closed door meetings so they would not look bad.  If they were so confident they where right, they would force Gov LePage to go to DC for his “meeting.”  Instead they want to come here.  Why do you think that is?  It’s because the national media doesn’t even acknowledge Maine as a state, so coming here will be under the radar instead of him going to DC where the media is everywhere. 

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, I can say that I am naive,  but I  sure do hope that Sebelius will at least try to  prompt a course correction. I  really hope he will eat crow, at least a little.
            I am not saying the gov  is wrong to think that we have too many people on the roster that could get coverage elsewhere, if they had the motivation and if Maine Care weren’t so accessible.

             I do not think that  his choice to cut people off without any plan in place to address the gaping hole, and the subsequent effect  it will have on the healthcare system are in anyway responsible leadership decisions…..  I know plenty of men with all kinds of opinions.  I mean Testosterone filled biased men who have strong opinions about how things should be. either in a relationship, what the car in front of them should do,  or how the wife cooks his breakfast….  To me, he is one of those big mouth guys.   He is just a narcacistic guy who gets some weird satisfaction and secondary gain by vilifying  the needy;   to such a degree that he  is truly dangerous  as a leader.  

          • You are cetainly allowed to have your opinion.  Yes, I think he has said and done some questionable things, but at the same time he stands his ground for what he believes is right.  He is not perfect, he is human, which is refreshing.  It seems nice to have a politician who sticks to his guns and doesn’t waiver based on the “flavor” of the public at a certain time.  And we need strong leaders.  Do you really want a person, testosterone filled man or estrogen filled woman, who is weak and waivers.  I will never forget the video of the female Gov of Louisiana CRYING after Katrina hit.  I can understand her feeling that way, but do you think the people of Lousiana needed to see their Gov crying in that drastic time of need?  No, they needed someone to stand at the podium and set the ball rolling.  Save the crying for bed time when your in your room alone, or with your spouse.

          • Anonymous

            Actually, since the Feds are being required to do this in many states not just Maine, this only shows that they should have read the law before they all rushed in to sign it.  They have had to waiver many many businesses who are unable to comply and who otherwise would be forced to drop all healthcare coverage for their employees and now it appears that many States will also be unable to comply without Federal waivers and still people will be dropped from the roles.
            Glad to see that complete failure makes you “psyched” but that seems a bit unusual to me.

        • Anonymous

          That’s b/c Sebelius actually knows what she’s doing.Brownie ran a rich man’s horse assn. before paying off GWB and getting a job he thought he could coast in.

    • Anonymous

       What you cant read? Or is it that you just don’t understand what you read! Or is it you have blinders that won’t let you comprehend what you read? I will simplify it for you.. The Obama team wants to help the Liepage team come up with a budget that will pass requirements needed to qualify for the waivers.. Which means that they will have to conform to the affordable care act.. Liepages budget will not.. The dems did not lie, so far the only lies have come from Liepage and the silly people like you who cant comprehend what they read.. I suggest you read it again and keep your dictionary handy so you can understand the big 3 letter words…

    • Anonymous

      you have to change the channel from Fox News once in awhile to get the “whole” picture of what is really going on!

  • Anonymous

    So the Secretary of Health and Human Services offers Maine help in solving the Mainecare problem, even offering to send a team to Maine. It will be interesting to see what “Job Killer” Paul Richard LePage does. 

    • I thought Paul was going to Washington to meet with them?  Are they afraid of him coming to Washington because he will prove them wrong?  Why else would the Feds bother to come to little old Maine?

      • Anonymous

        So they can make sure the caucus votes are counted PROPERLY!FEC anyone?And I’m not a Ron Paul supporter.

      • Anonymous

        I really really doubt that the Feds are afraid of Laplague. Your fantasy of old bully boy getting his way must be a good one!!

      • Anonymous

        Sure Wayno I am sure the people in Washington are quaking in their boots at the thought of “Job Killer” Paul Richard LePage going to our Nations Capitol

        • Then why would the Feds pay the expense to come here and “help?”  When was the last time the Feds paid a visit to Maine to lend a hand, other than funding?  Where were the Feds during the ice storm?  Where were the Feds during the big floods in the late 80’s when most of the towns along the Kennebec river were under water?  Where were the Feds in the mid 90’s when it rained for 3 days striaght and most of southern Maine was swimming?  The Feds would give a rats behind if Paul LePage was so wrong.  They would let him fry in his own oil.  But they know he is right, and now their oil is going to fry.

  • Anonymous

    This involves the word compromise and I am not sure that Mr LePage knows the meaning of the word. It generally means getting along with others.

  • Anonymous

    I have a hard time understanding why you DEMS enjoy giving your hard earned cash to those who don’t try or want to help themselves. Could it be that you are recipients and don’t want to have a good thing ruined.
     The abuse of social services is so apparent and widespread that it’s impossible not to notice. No one and I mean no one including our Governor who grew up poor himself wants to deprive those who truly need assistance.

    • Anonymous

      You need to take off your rose colored glasses if you believe LePage doesn’t want to deprive those needing assistance. And I believe his stories about his poor youth are as big a lie as everything else that comes out of his mouth. He would not know the truh if it hit him in his rather large gut, also the result of taxpayer money!!

      • Anonymous

        The money we spent so far has really improved the needys situation.Just did not realize the democrat politicians pockets were the needy .I do believe the answer was everyone knew about the appropriations going to legislatures so it was O.K. As the lefts great leader just said the party is its leaders.

        • It’s awfull,
           
          Did you see the one where the Treasurer of the State of Maine calls a Beach Club a Forest for Tax Purposes!

          • Anonymous

            Petty partisan hacks that spent this state into turmoil are digging into every ones past.time for this admin to start defending itself from these t e r r o r i s t losers Every part of the past admins has been filled with fraud and corruption time to start connecting the dots.

    • Anonymous

      It sounds like a money maker for the State.  Foe every dollar the State of Maine spends on its citizens health, it brings in 2 more Federal dollars.   We should be signing everybody up for Mainecare and let those federal dollars roll in.  Some of that money is bound to trickle down to the State coffers eventually and raise revenues too.  It’s a win-win.  Why are we trying to turn away all these federal dollars from our economy?

      • Anonymous

        Why because it is not a program for everyone.  It was designed for the truly needy the elderly and the truly disabled.  The Democrats went bonkers when they controlled everything in Augusta expanding it to everyone including those who are not supposed to be qualified to be on it.  It is a Welfare Program gone bad that is bankrupting our state.

        • I   ts the Part time minumum wage jobs only with NO benefits that are bankrupting the Maine Citezens, and draining the State of Tax Revenue!

          • Actually one of the biggest jobs in Maine righht now is the medical field.  Why do you think that is?  Could it have something to do with all the free medicine people receive in this state?

          • Could it be that they cant export “you” to China for repairs!

          • It’s cheaper to get “me” repaired in China than it is in the USA.

          • Going Abroad to Find Affordable Health Care 
            http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/health/21patient.html

            Oh my !  and not from Fox !!  LOL

          • Anonymous

            I disagree it is people who are lazy who don’t want to work that is the problem. They want folks like myself to pay for them.  We can’t anymore the state and its people are broke.  We should be spending our time creating jobs , lowering taxes and upgrading infrastructure (roads, bridges, east-west highways) .  Instead we are providing free taxpayer funded lifestyles to people (WELFARE).  We are putting the wrong priorities in.  We should be worried about our economy instead of being a Welfare State.

      • Anonymous

        I think that turning away money is just collateral damage from the Tea Party agenda and their micro view of what how a state should run  based on the Tea Partiers fundamental agenda : ” if you cant take care of yourself, dont look to state ( or federal)  dollars to help you.”  

        • Anonymous

          The really good thing about turning away Federal money is you also remove yourself from the Federal strings that come attached to the Federal Money.
          Some of us don’t actually want the Federal Government running our State.

          • Anonymous

            Another aspect of turning away federal money is that it means that more and more healthcare workers will get laid off. Less and less money coming into Maine, less and less money being spent in YOUR community, and in mine.

            The company you work for will see less income. It will start laying off workers. One of the newly unemployed people just might be YOU.

            Then you will be one of those supposedly fraudulent layabouts these Commenters sneer at.

          • Anonymous

            First off your whole premise is ill thought out.
            Health care is not a welfare based system, it is a for profit system.
            Due to the money to be made there will always be Doctors, Nurses and Hospitals due to the demand for those services.
            Yes, once the Federal Government gets out of the business you may actually earn less (probably about due though) but healthcare professionals will never end up jobless.  As for myself, I have not problem moving to find work and I have many skills not one small one as some of you have so work is always out there.
            I have a feeling if you did stop paying the layabouts to layabout they would work too. 

          • Anonymous

            If MaineCare is slashed, not only will thousands of indigent Mainers lose their only health insurance, but many healthcare providers will be laid off–because fewer patients are being seen.

            Some might (as you pointed out) simply have their pay slashed, but I do not see that as a good thing. These are your neighbors. If their pay is slashed or they lose their jobs, whatever company you yourself work for will be seeing a lower income, which puts YOUR job at risk.

            You apparently believe that you would have no trouble finding a new job with equivalent pay. Please be aware that there are 4 or 5 people needing work for every available position in the US, and Maine is one of the worst states in the country for finding a job. Prepare to uproot your family and migrate to another state…

          • Anonymous

            Yeah like the indigent Mainer I see every day getting into his nice Chevy who works under the table and gets MaineCare for his family at no cost while I work to put bread on the table legally and get healthcare for my family. You liberals have no clue.

          • Anonymous

            Part of my job involves making sure that people who are trying to scam SSI benefits don’t manage to do so. I see numerous people who try to do this, and delight in catching them. So I am aware there is a problem–and would love to see the Feds and DHHS hire workers (I don’t work for either) to supplement my efforts.

            Another major part of my life is that my husband and I have an adult daughter who was born with a genetic deletion syndrome, and is disabled.  She is able to work part-time doing very basic personal care in an Alzheimer’s unit. It has taken many years to get her this functional, and I credit the services she has received from the state, including MaineCare, and also her SSI and SSDI benefits.

            You provide an example of one person you see (and *perhaps* know personally) who gets MaineCare and has a decent car. You either know or assume that he is working under the table. Based on that, you  hope to slash MaineCare from thousands of Mainers who need and merit it.

            I keep seeing Republicans who would love to characterize all MaineCare recipients as lazy layabouts and frauds. They are determined to destroy MaineCare. I am committed to pointing out that the picture is far more complex than they would like people to believe.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t want anyone to get rid of anything that is needed.  What I want is for you all to stop throwing my money into the wind hoping the people that need it will catch some.  Take the  money out of the hands of the State and the Fed and put it under town control.
            We know who are disabled are and we know who is just milking.  Let us disperse our own money.

          • Anonymous

            In 1776,  when there were colonies, and no organized working government,  yes, it was up to the colony members to care for each other as they collectively and socially saw fit. (Witch trials comes to my mind,  versus the ideals of independence and free speech). The colonies still paid their taxes to the Feds.  Over time, the United States  of America became a more organized measure to prtect one another,  laws were pondered, and laws were made to serve the citizens. Over the years, it was determined, through the legal system,  that fragile and vulnerable people needed more assistance… and federal money came back in , mixed with state taxes, and local monies,  in an effort to help care for the vulnerable and fragile.  
            We are now on a planet with billions of people, who are connected to each other in innumerable ways.  I dont have any idea what the  world would look like if we turned back the clock and had colonial rule…. with no State or Fed coverage for our needs like protection/ or assistance in caring for our ill,.  or our incarcerated. The USA puts money in the wind for us all…. Social Security for example.  But it is our money that we pay into the system with the guarantee that we will have a safety net, if needed.  Would you still want your entitlement when you retire, and do you think that local control would provide that for you when you retire?
            Id love to hear how you think local control makes sense in taking care of each other…. especially in this time of addiction, no jobs, and a wide range of people who do not value ayones opinion.    What would you do with your layabouts in your  self governing town in 2012?  How would you get them off your roster?

          • Anonymous

            You don’t have to go back that far too see when local money was used to help local people.  The problems today all stem from the fact that we have to send our money up the ladder so that it can dribble back down.
            With local control many of the people you give our money to will not get it in the future and then they will have to go to work.
            Keep it simple stupid.

          • Anonymous

            There are always people who need work but that doesn’t mean they are competitive for the jobs that are available.  As for being prepared to uproot my family, that is what any man should be prepared to do to take care of his family.  I have always done so when needed and I have always been able to provide.  Not being willing to move is not an excuse to sit where there are no jobs available and just take the public money.

          • Anonymous

            Federal strings have helped people.  I am thinking ” Social Security”….

      • Anonymous

        Hey…what an idea.
        I wonder where all that federal money comes from?

      • Anonymous

        Where do federal dollars come from? They come from you and me through taxes be levied or it is borrowed which means we still have to pay for it. It is not a win-win. 

    • StillRelaxin

      Or could it be that we simply know the value for all (Including ourselves) of being willing to help others and you don’t?

      NO ONE supports giving those who can but refuse to do for themselves something for nothing. That is not the issue here no matter how often you or others try to make it so. However, what Mr. LePage has proposed was and is clearly a violation of several laws for a reason. He needs to play by the rules and show some basic decency to the many that he detest if he’s going to get anything close to what he wants or any support or assistance from anyone but those who would gladly kiss his behind if he told them to. On the dirty nasty road he’s on now filled with nothing but hate for so many of his citizens the only assistance he’ll be getting is a bus ticket for himself and his fellow GOP/Teas on the way out of Maine to begin an earlier than expected Florida retirement next November.

      • I’m only willing to help those who need it, not those who abuse it, which is the case in most instances.  Maine Care is so abused you have no idea.  I see it every day in my field.

        • StillRelaxin

          Hey that’s what I said. Without the jibba jabba hearsay evidence you put forth relating to the level of abuse that I’ve never seen. I’m all for everyone tightening their belts in hard times (As long as that means everyone) but I personally can’t and won’t condemn people based on your or anyone else’s hearsay evidence.  Tell me, if the abuse problem is so bad there must have been some big study filled with FACTUAL data done in Maine to PROVE your suggestions are correct. What was the results?  No, (And this goes for everyone) please don’t waste my time on more jibba jabba hearsay that pretty much amounts to and means nothing.

          • Anonymous

             It’s Working folks, Honest people turning in the Fraudsters helps reduce costs
            and Save the funds for those that Truly need it.
            Public Service Announcement

            Report Fraud in Maine
            Allegations of fraud or attempted fraud involving funds, including Food Stamps,
            administered by the Department of Health and Human Services should be sent to:
            Fraud, Investigation and Recovery
            11 State House Station
            Whitten Road
            Augusta, Maine 04333-0011

            Phone numbers for DHHS Fraud office are:
            1-207-287-2409 and 1-800-442-6003
            Further questions and suspicions can also be submitted by e-mail.
            Fraud.Dhhs@maine.gov

            For Additional Fraud, Attempted or Suspected,
            Contact the Office of the Attorney General
            Phone: 207-626-8800
            Mailing Address:
            Office of the Attorney General
            6 State House Station
            Augusta, ME 04333

            http://www.maine.gov/ag/contact.html

            Do All three, Phone, E-mail and send a Letter.
            Follow-up in 30 days with a Certified letter if no response.
            Send a letter Directly to the Governor’s Office, that should get their attention.
            Keep a written log of actions and attempts to notify.
            Hold them Responsible!

          • It’s awfull,

            What good will it do,
             
               Did you see the one where the Treasurer of the State of Maine calls a Beach Club a Forest for Tax Purposes and he gets away with it!

          • poormaniac

            Funny you mention hearsay evidence , your post above (10:07 pm) states that several laws will be broken under the Lepage proposal………..Name a few !  “Don’t waste my time on more jibba jabba.”

          • StillRelaxin

            Laws, rules, lowest standards for human behavior and ethics.  This is what you’ve chosen to latch onto instead of an earnest response or the provison of evidence?  That’s just sad.   This is why only the most hateful and dull thinkers among us fall for the right wing chatter about the level of abuse in the welfare system.  You’ve got nothing but yourselves to prove your own “stories” to yourselves.  Yourselves must be very happy with yourselves.  So once again you go to the good old fallback positon of DEFLECTING to something (ANYTHING) else you can find to avoid realitiy for just one more day.  Why am I not surprised?

          • poormaniac

            I rest my case !

          • “This is why only the most hateful and dull thinkers among us fall for the right wing chatter about the level of abuse in the welfare system.” 

            Then I guess you chose not to read the recent flood of articles about people going through the legal system right now because of welfare fraud.  Take your insults, and lack of information elsewhere.  There are intelligent people here trying to have debates.

          • Anonymous

            He’s too busy calling people haters and jibbajabbers to think rationally. 

          • Anonymous

            More jibbajabba from you I see.

          • Ok smart guy.  How about people on Maine Care who call for an ambulance because their foot hurts, and they can get a free ride to the hospital.  Meanwhile, your mother or father is having a heart attack and there is no ambulance because someone on Maine Care with a hurt foot is gettting a ride.  Or how about the person with two homes, one in Maine and one in NC who chose Maine Care over the NC option because it was free and the benefits were better.  So I ask you, how does someone who can afford two homes in two states get Maine Care?  Or maybe you missed the report WCSH6 did a couple of years ago, when they rode with the Portland EMS unit just to show the abuse of Maine Care.  One woman in Portland was transported over 100 times in 1 year.  So no, I don’t have FACTUAL studies that you seem to need, but I do have hands on.  And trust me, hands on is far more FACTUAL than some biased study.

          • Anonymous

            In the field,those are known as GOMERS(Get Out Of My Emergency Room)and you’re right but the problem is hospitals are terrified of that person suing if there was a one in 100 true emergency.Also,under Hill Burton hospitals MUST provide minimal care or transfer.I don’t know how to fix the law.Medicare has studies showing that 5% of patients are responsible for 40-50% of all billing.

          • Anonymous

             Wayno, do you understand what hearsay is? Repeating stuff that you’ve “heard” doesn’t constitute evidence of anything. It does, however, reinforce your already existing stereotype, which appears to be that anyone who collects MaineCare is a deadbeat who is milking the system. Even though the vast majority of recipients are elderly or children. One or two instances of abuse don’t indicate a system-wide problem of abuse and fraud, but you and others like you always seem to act as if they do.

            So, let me ask you, Wayno…would you accept my “hands on” experiences as better than factual? Because I too have eyes, and a heart, and I pay taxes every week. And the people I’ve seen who need MaineCare, and are using it,  are far from abusing it. 

          • Talk about hearsay.  Before you type, know your facts.  I experience it first hand you dumbwad!  And of course their are folks who need it, but the folks who are seriously abusing it are costing ALL of us huge amounts of money.  And as GPBand said, the top %5 of Maine Care users eat up around %50 of the money.  That is a very overwhelming statistic.  So excuse me if my hands on experience drives home the fact that we are being abused.

          • Anonymous

            Maybe you should have listened to see why 50% is eaten up by the top 5%, because they have that serious of diseases or disabilities.  I haven’t heard anybody credible complain that those top 5% are abusing the system.

          • I already know that is the reason, it makes perfect sense.  But those top %5  are being denied true quality health care because the other %95 abuse it.

          • Anonymous

            My mother had occasion to go to an orthopedist that did evaluations for Workers Comp in Maine.  She went for a follow up confirmation after seeing her own orthopedist. My mother said that the doctor at first was very grumpy but after observing her move her hand and shoulder and asking questions he became quite friendly. The doctor told her that   it was refreshing to see someone who had a real injury rather than someone trying to get over which is what he dealt with most of the day.

            Any reasonable person will tell you that fraud exists. Policies that need to be changed exist.

          • Like every Government operated program, it’s original intent was a fantastic idea, that politicians ended up abusing for votes.  Welfare was started by FDR to help bring us out of The Depression,  now it’s a lifestyle.  SSI was intended for retirement, now it’s used to fund our Government and it is nearly depleted.  Maine Care was started to help the eldery and disabled, now we give it to anyone who cries poverty.  The Sex Offender Registry was started as a tool for law enforcement, now if you pee in public you get put on it.  All items that our fine politcians throughout time have used to get our votes.

          • Anonymous

            Time to get out from behind the computer and look around.As an employer now instead of resumes and interviews i am getting phone calls for jobs available.If someone does not have the interest to come and apply then they are not someone i want.

          • Anonymous

            And you know exactly why that is dont you? Those people are calling so they can put something on thier unemployment job search forms.

          • Anonymous

            I worked as a coordinator for a temp agency.You are right about that scam but how do you rewrite the law?

          • Anonymous

            That is how people used to do it, call up and ask what employers had for jobs; for the most part now people use the internet, apply online.  A lot of unemployed are trying to look down so many avenues they really don’t have enough time to make personal visits to employers to see if they have a job available, it is just reality.

          • Anonymous

            Not to mention at $4/gallon gas,the computer saves money and you can send out 100 resumes at once.

          • Anonymous

            Jibbajabba evidence? That’s what you peddle here daily.

        • Anonymous

          I just found out that my neighbor just got approved for social security disability because of carpal tunnel syndrome. I would have never guessed that you could get a monthly check for that and get full coverage insurance for it too. I do not begrudge someone (and I truly mean that) who really is totally disabled their full benefits but for carpal tunnel?

          • Anonymous

            It depends many factors. They look at the persons skills to see what they have done for work and if they are able to do other work. They look at age. Your neighbor may have other disabilities in addition to the carpal tunnel. Most disabilities are not visable.

          • Anonymous

            SSDI is not working on the REAL problem-the millions who are getting it for fake mental illnesses.EVERYONE getting that needs to be looked at and reevaluated.GIANT scam!

      • Anonymous

        Taking more  money from  taxpaying producers to give to a government that has not helped the needy is supporting the status quo.

        • Anonymous

          The Great Society and its programs began a full decade before I was born. Today 37 years I can see that some things have been of benefit and others have not. Im not advocating doing away with programs to help people. I dont think you are either. I think we both are advocating for tightening up who gets the help and making sure people who deserve it get it.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t assume LePage has any basic decency.He hasn’t shown any yet.

    • Anonymous

      This is Obamacare being shoved down our throats. Program may be falling apart though as over 600 waivers have already been granted. Government “dictating” what we have to purchase. Next they will force us to buy a Volt for a vehicle. I’m sure going to miss my Prius.

      • Anonymous

        I dont know… OK so we all will wear the same clothes, ( ? non threatening sea blue?)  drive the same car ( The Volt), walk in the same direction (circles to keep us engaged), have the same  goals, purpose???  And this will happen, per your assertion If the government “dictates ” what we have to purchase…. REALLY? Capitalism is gone out the window that fast huh?  Their lobbyists will just fold over if we are mandated to buy health insurance.  No more citizen choice regarding what TV to buy,  jeans to wear etc…  YES,  
        THE TRUTH:  We will all become DRONES if mandated to purchase health care insurance! 
          

        The real premise that could be debated is  that  equitable access to  health care is a right that all should have/ or not depending on your view.  But the Affordable Care Act   does require that  , in order to facilitate health care for all,  the young healthy insureds do in fact HAVE TO  PAY into the pool to cover the” ClingOn to life AT ALL COSTS cuz I have (usually Medicare and sometimes Medicaid ) insurance” folks that use up the resources. And as we know, Medicare is going broke,  and Medicaid in Maine is apparently so far in the red that the Federal government has to come help us…. so AT ALL  COSTS thinking by the insured folks ins’t work ing either.
        Maybe the Gov LePage solution :” Cut them  off!  ” is a good idea. It certainly is scary,  but it may have some merits… hopefully keeping hospitals open, community based services / agencies caring for our citizens. Hopefully  this is not  just an agenda issue- the agenda being, there are too many toothless lowlives in Maine,  if we cut them off, they will leave Maine and go to a state where they will get entitlements.  Maybe it is just   a way to shift the burden of burdensome entitled people.  Yeah  probably.  Those folks would not look good in a Volt anyway.

        • poormaniac

          And probably not fit in a Volt either !

        • Anonymous

           one step at a time, make. what are you willing to give up ? how about your kids? how much of their freedom are you willing to sell to the government?

          • Anonymous

            I was actually being very very sarcastic, in response to Bonny_in _ MS statement that our purchases  will be dictated by the goverment, and that she will have to ride in a VOLT. 
            But realistically, I give up a  lot already in the form of state and federal taxes.  I think that Affordable healthcare and its mandate are a very good thing. The young are needed to pay into the pool for the ” Cling ons” . I am not judging the :Cling ons”, as  I have no idea what my response will be when I am faced with the prospect of 2 years of life. on dangerous meds, surgeries etc… versus death with dignity.
            Affordable Health Care  will be enacted in concert with a shift in thinking about what a hospital should provide, what the PCP/ community can provide, and ultimately what the patient/ family  will do for the person in need of care.  I dont think that the government is going to interfere…  Other than creating the guidelines and laws that govern ACOs and the ACA.
            I am willing to give up more money from my wages for that, yes. I think it is a very worthy and valiant effort. I think the govt receives money to be a safety net ( military, judicially, welfare, social security etc…) and the ACA, in  my mind rises to the standard of a safety net, – not only for the uninsured, but the whole broken health care system… that truly needs to be fixed.
            I hope I am not selling my or my childrens  freedom by having that view. I dont think I am.  I really dont think that we will be forced to buy only certain items, and live like Drones because of the mandate for the ACA.   I really do not think the country or its citizens will fold. I am sure the lobbyists for the banks, for the chain stores. and anyone else who stands to make a buck, will never go away.  
             I have given up more freedoms by being a slave to commercialism, than to the government.  The Gov will take my money  and help the next guy, as well as me when I need it. Would Wal Mart do that???
            Marketing companies have done more harm in getting us to act as drones than the government… At least that is how I see it.

        • Anonymous

          If you  cut the medicaid like Lepage wants it will shift the burden to the hospitals so they will have to raise their rates on you and I, then they will get just enough care so the hospitals can boot them out the door and they will be back again in a week, that is real cost effective….

          Lepage is also taking the funding away from all those community based services so they will not be there to help out either, cost shifting from the Funds for a Healthy Maine to cover medicaid costs, costing the state of Maine an additional $6 for every dollar cut….so he is shifting $25 million so the long term costs for Maine within the next five years is going to be an additional $150 million each year, just so we don’t have to deal with healthcare problems now, talk about kicking the can down the road….what a joke!!

      • Anonymous

        Wow, the conservative media have really been pouring it on. And they’re inspiring people as far away as Mississippi to join our discussion.

        Do you have health insurance from a for-profit corporation? Have you noticed that the CEO (whose salary is in the multi-millions) and his cronies actually DO “dictate” what sorts of procedures you can have done, and where they can be performed? Do you realize that if and when you become ill and need to actually use that insurance, the company can drop you like a hot potato? You will then have a pre-existing condition, and might be unable to find health insurance anywhere, at any price.

        • Anonymous

          First of all”Bonny” is a paid MHPC troll.If you look at “her” posts they are just mindless LePage drivel.And one of the benefits of Obamacare is that pre existing conditions are covered by 2014.Read “Deadly Spin” by Wendell Potter formerly of Cigna.

          • Anonymous

            I agree with you. And I wish everyone would read Deadly Spin.

            For those who have not read it, Potter worked for a major for-profit insurer, and was rising to the top. Then he had cause to realize how destructive the for-profit insurance model is. One image that stays with me is his description of watching professionals providing the sorts of last-ditch free care to Americans that are provided to desperate natives in other third-world countries.

          • Anonymous

            Thanks.One interesting point is Potter went on a book tour for it and after two weeks a lot of his appearances were canceled due to “scheduling conflicts”,etc.Big Pharma put the screws in.

          • Anonymous

            She is a troll for sure.

          • Anonymous

            Show me where she said anything about LePage. She was referring to the oboma administration. LePage is going to be govna for the next seven years. Get over it. Also, good luck in November.

          • Anonymous

            I’m not worried in the least.Obama wins and benefits everyone,including you who doesn’t deserve it.That’s what I’d expect from someone from MA.

        • Anonymous

          This is a liberal news paper.

      • {Government “dictating” what we have to purchase}

        Try not having your Vehicle Inspected and see if you get fined!

        • Anonymous

          Driving is a privilege that the government controls. If you don’t want to pay those fees and taxes, then don’t drive. Being forced to buy health insurance is a different argument. 

    • Right on Right on!!  I don’t understand why people don’t see that we voted him in because this is exactly what he said he was going to do!!  A MAJORITY of us wanted to see this cleaned up.  Deal with it dems!!!

      • Anonymous

        LePage wanted to cut $220 million out of the budget. D.h.s. said they can cut $120 million. Why didn’t d.h.s. make those cuts in the first place? Then the governor would have only asked for $100 million in cuts, and that would have been a lot easier to take. It’s like selling a car, start high and meet in the middle. The libs think this is a victory saying, take that you evil LePage, while the governor smiles and says, I cut them by $120 million and look at how happy they are. Go LePage go. We voted for change and you are on the right track. Keep going for the extreme, and they will jump for joy when you only get half of what you asked for. This battle alone, you saved the tax payers $120 million.

        • Anonymous

          No, what he did was say “DHHS commissioner tell the people we need less money than we do for your budget so we can cut taxes for the rich”…..and so it was done…..six months later…..”now DHHS commissioner come out with a short fall, wait a week and say it is higher and repeat a couple more times”……and so it was done……”now all of my radical right cronies complain that we must slash the budget to make ends meet”…..and so it was done…..

    • Anonymous

      “No one… wants to deprive those who truly need assistance…”

      On the contrary, it has been proved time and time again that LePage and his cronies do actually intend to harm people who are genuinely disabled, elderly, and who have medical conditions that will worsen dramatically when he succeeds in removing their health insurance–MaineCare.

      “Could it be that you are recipients…”

      I myself work 40-50 hours per week. The “good thing ruined” than I’m concerned about is the sense of what it means to be an American. The Republican leaders are determined to create a culture of selfishness and greed, in which only wealthy people are considered worthy of a basic human right such as healthcare. Anyone who disagrees is accused of being a slacker, and everyone who needs assistance is to be slandered as a layabout and a fraud.

      • Anonymous

         if the government didn’t try to do everything there would be funds to help those “truely in need” . the problem is that dems think that everyone  is truely in need. instead lets have a lot less government that protects the country and stays out of the lives of the citizens.

        • Anonymous

          We can start by having people like Santorum and legs. like VA stay out of a woman’s reproductive system.

      • Anonymous

        I work 70 to 80 hours a week in the summer. I am proud to be an American. I voted for Paul LePage. I have a heart and realize that people need help from time to time. I am fortunate to be able to live in South America half the year. Having used the healthcare system here(which is public and private) I feel that the US has handled healthcare and how it operates very poorly.

        Do you agree that some people are lazy and are committing fraud. What do we do with them? 

        • Anonymous

          Fraud needs to be dug out from one dollar to the big boys like Nutting and Rick Scott.Healthcare here won’t be right until we get real single payer.Vote D and get rid of the TP’ers to save America.

          • Anonymous

            Healthcare may very need to go to a single payer system. However I see a system that is private and public here in Argentina that for the most part works very well. Fraud should be investigated and prosecuted. The rest of your post shows partisanship on the behalf of democrats.

    • Anonymous

      That’s because the libs know the only way to get votes is to give out freebees. If everyone is on the dole, they will vote liberal to save their way of life.

    • Anonymous

       When the Fox invites the Rabbit to dinner, the Rabbit should first ask what is on the menu.

  • Anonymous

    I say it’s a sign of outright incompetence when the feds want to send a “team” up from DC to clean up your mess.

    • Anonymous

      That is usually what it meant in the military…..when the higher ups have to come fix your screw ups then you know you really screwed up!!

  • Anonymous

    Cut cut cut!!!

  • Anonymous

    The willingness of a Republican Senator to intervene gives us a pretty clear indication of how unstable and how far right the Penguin administration really is.  Snowe is asking for Obama to save Maine from a pending disaster.

    • Anonymous

      It will be interesting to see how this plays out!!!
      The penguin adminsitration – I hadnt heard that one yet,. I thought he looked more like the unethical warden in Shawshank Redemption.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    If the Gov. is successful in dropping 220 million out of DHS doesn’t that also drop another 250+ million of federal matching money.   And if we take this half billion $$ out of the Maine economy who wins?  
    I have to think a lot of people who would have received this money as wages will be unhappy?How about all the small businesses  who would have been paid from this money, or the other people who would have secondarily benefited from this money in the Maine economy?And we’re doing this to please the Gov., the Maine Heritage Foundation and a few richer Mainers who’ll get an upper end tax break?

  • I think that the bigger issue, and actual benefit’s, are being overlooked here. All of the hoop-la aside, that fact that the MaineCare issue was openly addressed in Washington has forced the waiver issue to be dealt with. What is most important, for the Maine Legislature especially, is the fact that the Fed’s DHHS is waiting (note, they are the one’s waiting, not Maine !) to send their people up here and help the Maine DHHS and the Legislature, of both side’s, to work out the requirements for Maine to see where these ‘waiver’s’ can be applied and where they can’t. That Kathy Sebilieus is telling everyone that she is more than willing to work with Maine’s HHS and Legislature to get the ‘Obamacare’ Act moving is a sign that there is a willingness in Washington to work with, not dictate to as some TP’rs keep screaming about, with the Maine DHHS to work out the differences between MaineCare and the Obamacare provision’s. And that is both welcome news and is a sign that Washington is beginning to listen to the various State’s concerns that maybe Obamacare needs to be be refined given the State’s concerns and varying health care needs. After all, at what point is Obamacare’s provision’s for any type of cold weather health care going to be applicable in Florida ? The same can be asked of Maine’s provison’s for dehydration and heat stroke ? That Washington is acknowledging the various State’s differing health care requirement’s is a major breakthrough.

    That Sebiluis also said that she is just waiting to be asked to come to Maine is also a huge political opportunity. If LePage ever wanted to try to redeem is political image, this is it. And it’s not going to say out there on the line forever. Paulie, you ‘stick’ the pooch this time, and you got no one to blame but whoever’s in the mirror. Maine Legislature, you folks had better wake up and collectively draft that invitation, and I mean right now ! This opportunity is not going to come around again, especially when the Presidential Campaign really starts winding up. Given the Governor’s threat’s to seize the DOE Budget (and I have yet to see him withdraw that threat in any way, shape or form) and the very ugly legal road that this type of action leads to, Washington is not going to come anywhere near Maine if LePage goes thru with this. Given that LePage has himself tied the DOE Budget to the DHHS issue, he all but assuring a less than wonderful Federal Intervention (and the possibility of a Federal Receiver is not beyond possibility !) if this opportunity is allowed to go unused. Whether you folk’s in Augusta realize it or not, the Sebelius offer is about as close to an ‘olive branch offered’ as it’s going to get. The future of Maine healthcare is now out there. The only question that hasn’t been answered is a simple one, that being who’s going have the gut’s to make the offer first ? Tick tock, folk’s, tick tock……   

    • Anonymous

       the dems force thru the outrageously expensive obama care  bill and you say they are not dictating to the state. really.

       when is this unconstitutional law going to the supreme court? lets end this already.

      • Bud, you can cry and whine all you want but it’s going to happen in one form or another. The Affordable Care Act Bill is scheduled to go to The Court in mid June, right before the Convention’s on both side’s, for it’s hearing. How soon the decision comes out is anyone’s guess. But in case anyone has forgotten the only option, besides the GOP-proposed solution of ‘Stay healthy as long as you can ’cause when you get sick we let you die’ is the Public Option. PO is the basis for almost every optional plan there is that”s out there. It’s also the only one that’s seen as the most universally compliant with The Constitution and, as far as The Court is concerned, the most equitable as far as applicability goes.  We all know it, and so does The Court. The Court is concerned with both the Constitutionality of the Obamacare Act and, as if anyone is really surprised, any option’s that are out there that are going to be substituted.

        The Court has been recently been seen as both a bit of a right-wing tightwad and as a source of Executive and Legislative proposal’s. Rightly or wrongly, The Court is trying to provide a direction for the Country that’s both legal and beneficial. For The Court to go this far should be seen as a good thing. Those folks who are determined to keep sitting on a hill and keep crying ‘ The Country is going Socialist’ are eventually going to be seen for what they are. It’s time to get over the ‘moosepoop’ and move on. And since both Party’s in Augusta, LePage not withstanding, are now finally seeing the stupidity and wastefulness of mutual crying session’s, don’t you think the rest of us should start growing up ? Growing up, in this case with the Mainecare issue, is going to happen whether anyone want’s it or not. Maturity is sign of growth and advancement. Maine is long since past needing it. That it is finally happening is both a great thing and painful. It’s also inevitable. Learn from it, adapt and grow or just sit there and wait for the cemetery crew to come along and plant you. The choice shouldn’t be that hard to make.

        • Health insurance is not a right, it’s a privilage.  Why should I bust my chops so some free loader can sit pretty on his deck drinking beer?  And then call an ambulance when he has a cold so he can get a free ride to the doctor.  OslamaCare will fall when he is ejected from DC in Nov.

          • And when you have a heart attack Sir, I hope that there is gonna be an EMS Unit close to you to keep you alive long enough to see just what the WHOLE of the Affordable Care Act does. The ACA is gonna provide for not just the supposeded freeloaders you talk and whine about but for everyone thru it’s provisions for Community Emergency Health Services. And as far as ‘privilege’ goes, it’s that kind of nonsense that’s resulted in God only knows how many kid’s growing up with a host of medical problems, that of treated early, could eliminate a host of now very expensive medical treatment’s that you so loudly complain about.

            On the other hand, do us all a favor and have a Do Not Recesitate order on file somewhere. Given your level of humanity shown, your clearly going to be more effort than your worth. And EMS needs to concentrate on those that want to keep on going. You obviously don’t. And people wonder why Dotty Dix needs to be kept open. Here’s the case made. Set, Point and Match !

          • And why is health insurance a right?  And why should we pay for it?  Why should I be FORCED to buy it to provide for free loaders?  And it’s bleeding heart liberals like you why this county has tanked.  We were the power of this world, with the strongest leaders, the strongest forces, and a boat load of intestinal fortitude.  Then along came your type in the 60’s and this country became the mess it is today.  No guts, no glory, a “leader”(ya right) that gets pushed around by the rest of the world, China walking all over us.

            And when that EMS provider can’t come take care of your heart attack because of some Maine Care recipient getting a free ride in the ambulance for a sore foot, let me know how you feel about Universal Health Care.  Don’t think it doesn’t happen, because it does.  People who could take a taxi, or get a ride from a family member call an ambulance because Maine Care will pay for it.  Oh wait, Maine Care has no money to pay.  Now that service is out the money for transporting nana with the sore toe.  Shoot, SCORE!-A real man’s sport by the way.

          • Do us all a favor and please make sure that you have that DNR Order on you at all times. That and the name of your local Klan leader ’cause we need to get your bedsheet size. You sir are one sorry sad example of the most extremeist part of the country. Do us all a favor and just head for the hills and stay there. The Country needs those who can contribute and make an effort to improve, not whine and cry and yell ‘Quit’ every chance they get simply because they don’t like what’s going on or can’t adapt out of need or practicality.

            And as far as scoring goes, well, geting the job done and getting your people home is the only score that count’s. Your idea of scoring is nothing less than letting the bodies pile up until you have to push them over to walk around. I’ll let the living score me. Who’s gonna score you beside’s the Coroner’s Office ?

          • Well for a man who sits there and defends the health of all, you seem very violent.  DNR orders and Klu Klux Klan accusations?  And you call me a sad example?  I never wished ill health on you, and this is your rebuttle?  So why is it ok to save everyone but people who think like me?  It’s called the typical liberal way of thinking, which is; “Your only worth the grass you stand on if you think like me.  If you don’t, than you can just lay under that grass.”  I truly wonder what terrible thing happened to you in your childhood for you to be so demented and hateful?

            And the only person whining here is you.  You can’t handle the truth of my rebuttle, so you resort to name calling and violence.  But I’m used to it, it’s how all of you liberals respond when you get the facts thrown in your face. 

          • The right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happyness!

            If you cant get Emergency Medical Attention you are being denied Life!

          • If the ambulance for your heart attack is tied up taking the Maine Care patient with the sore foot to the hosptial , your LIFE will be cut a bit short.

  • Anonymous

    While I do agree changes are necessary in the welfare system I don’t not understand or accept the fact that the governor wants a quick fix and that the ONLY way it can be done is to make the entire budget deficet go away in one year by making the cuts from one program, this issue did not happen overnight and it was NOT caused by one program’s spending, it cannot/should not fall on that one program to give him what he wants. Talk about tunnel vision!

  • Anonymous

    Just like in Wisconsin, where the lucky citizens can recall the gov (and they are), the first thing Lepage did was cut taxes for the wealthy and then declare there wasn’t enough money for the most needy.  These Republican governors are all following a national playbook.  It’s so friggin’ obvious and sinful.

    • Check out the Wisconsin Job losses, 6 straight  months of  losses from a Tea Party Republican Governor!

  • Anonymous

    She said she did not receive much ‘paper’ from the gov.  Probably all he sent was “the Koch bros. told me to”

  • Anonymous

    Whether you agree with LePage or not; when was the last time somebody got the attention of the federal government enough to say …. Whoa!!  Let’s see what we can do to help :)  Not sure that the Feds are the ones to turn to for assistance, BUT I think he got their attention.  

  • Anonymous

    oh sh.. the feds are here to help. hang on to your wallets.

  • Guest

    God help us.

    The Federal government is going to send someone to “help” us….

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone besides me find it is strange the Mr LePage never has a comment when someone offers to work with him ? Reminds me of the little spoiled neigborhood kid who always complained we would not play with him. When we would offer to go play with him he would just run inside.

    What I really find encouraging  about this is that at least the folks from DC are interested in talking about how to make healthcare work better. For years both parties have given lip service to the need to improve healthcare and finally someone has made an attempt.

    Hopefully Mr LePage and crew will take them up on the offer so the program can be streamlined without harming those most in need in our state.

  • Guest

    ….

    • Anonymous

      So the bully will lose this one

  • Anonymous

    Craft a plan? The plan that she and her sheep have been pushing is take everything from  American citizens possible and send it to government.They know exactly how to spend it.So i am starting to agree with stealing producers money and giving it to Mister Obama and his band of thieves.When producers stop donating to charity and just send any money they make into the government then only then will they realize.Government does not and has no desire to actually help the needy.So lets vote all this mess in now and get it over with.Then when the entitlement house of cards collapses.We can start a rational discussion on just how to either eliminate or at least improve the needys life.Democrats truly believe that other peoples money will keep there voting block in line and wanting more.Republicans truly believe that with a little help up people can improve their situation.We have tried the give away programs by spending trillions on wasteful giveaway programs only to see the poverty level stay the same.Time to help people help themselves.

  • So Ms Cain doesn’t want to” throw people off of Mainecare.” Am I hearing that everyone can stay on? That leads one to think that the rolls can be as full as possible, we won’t worry about the money or services. Sounds like what is going on in Greece.  They seem to be just reducing the benifits, not looking into peoples need to be on the rolls.

  • Anonymous

    It seems to me that it would be important for all the members of the Apropriations Committee to contact Secretary Sebelius to arrange to have a person(s) come to Maine ASAP to discuss the options.  It appears that the LePage administration is not willing to do so.  I again state that I believe there need to be changes to the welfare system, however, the working poor, elderly, disabled people of Maine should not be the target of extreme cuts.

  • Unbelievable! ObamaCare is passed without transparency or valid evaluation which gives power to the HHS to decide a myriad of issues. Then when those decisions cause more issues they make some more invalid rules and waivers.  Louis Carroll anyone?

  • Anonymous

    Little do you know, I have a job!!!

  • Anonymous

    Tooooo funny…LOL

  • Guest

    I remain convinced that significant financial losses are due to fouled billing and registry systems.

    Questions:  When a patient has Medicare and MaineCare/Medicaid, which is billed first?    If it happens that MaineCare/Medicaid is billed first, then the bulk of the expense is with the State.

    And, as with all insurance policies that seem to be ceaselessly incorrectable in medical and office and hospital databases, (worsened now by unifying these inept systems), even after repeated attempts by consumers to correct them, how many people who no longer receive MaineCare/Medicaid remain listed as being enrolled when they are not, resulting in bills sent, erroneously, to MaineCare/Medicaid?

    How many consumers do not receive a bill for services until a year passes?  All the while, the consumer believes that whatever insurance there is, is “in the works.”

    Also, whether private or government programs, how many medical offices and hospitals have systems set up to ensure that underpayment bills are sent to consumers?

    Until these billing practices are closely examined, I believe tremendous amounts of money will remain ‘lost’.

    • Anonymous

      Hospitals always bill a private insurance first, or medicare then bill medicaid to pick-up the copay if necessary.

      • Anonymous

        With me that bill medicare first an that whats left goes to my insurance

  • Anonymous

    “but we did not have a lot of paper from the Governor about what exactly was the proposal.”

    and you won’t get any either  – it was used and flushed

    yessah

  • Anonymous

    Sure do wish everyone was entitled to a new pickup i could use one.When are these bloodsuckers going to realize insurance is a product sold just like a vehicle. Not everyone can afford a bentley but some feel others should buy them one.

  • Anonymous

    It would be wise to keep Ms. Sebelius as far away from Maine as possible. 

  • Anonymous

    Here’s an example of what results from Czar Queen Sebelius’s mandates just 2 days ago in North Carolina
    More Big Government intrusion  “State agent inspects sack lunches, forces preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead”This was at the mandate of Federal DHHS, Division of Child Development  aka Obama and CzarKathleenClick here: Preschooler’s Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria “Nuggets” or click or copy and paste to browser: http://www.carolinajournal.com…The Food Police are here – Guess my delicious peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, my baloney sandwiches, etc. were not supposed to be good for me!!! Been around for 71+ years so far.!!! This goes too far. Further, was this a spot inspection or does the state have state inspectors hired to inspect lunches at all the county public schools every day? More big government at work. FEDERAL LAW ENFORCED BY A STATE INSPECTOR IN A COUNTY SCHOOL ALL FUNDED BY TAXES FROM THE WORKING AND RETIRED TO DO THIS?. FEDERAL INCOME TAX, STATE INCOME OR SALES TAX and CITY AND/OR COUNTY SCHOOL TAXES!!!!!! AND TELLING A 4 YEAR OLD HER MOTHER IS WRONG AND DOESN’T KNOW WHAT SHE’S DOING?!!!!! YEP!!! THAT PUSHED MY BUTTON!!!!
     
     

    • Anonymous

      Maybe, just maybe you would like to wait for the whole story.  The USDA was there, but the teacher inspected the lunch.  When the meal was found to be deficient of an item the school offers that item free of charge.  The girl misunderstood and she had to go through the lunch line.  Like schools should be doing they are trying to get kids to eat healthy; the girl had a pretty good lunch but a piece was missing and the school offered it FOR FREE!!

      •  Did you just make that up?

        • Anonymous

          Nope, it was a story the next day in the same paper how it was all a huge mix up.

        • Anonymous

          I read in on the news last night to she need milk to go with lunch

  • Anonymous

    We are the federal government and we are here to help you ! YIKES !

  • Jason Simonds

    You know what I think this is all about??? …. the election next Fall.

    I think the national GOP is attempting to save Maine despite itself. This press release is about putting LePage and the Maine GOP on notice that they are endangering the GOP hold Maine has at the moment. The last Nov. election, the recent special election, and the Caucus dust up are signs that all is not well… not only between the Maine people and the GOP, but even so far as within the GOP in Maine itself.

    LePage is creating a ground swell of anti GOP sentiment that could derail not just the GOP’s hold on the Maine houses, but could result in the GOP losing a national seat.. and well, I do not think the national GOP folks are going to stand by and allow the Maine GOP to trash the chance of the National candidate retaining the seat they now occupy in Washington.

    This is not about people and their needs, this is about hard ball politics…. anyone in Augusta wanna play catch?

  • Anonymous

    Finally there will be some answers to question.” we did not get alot of paper from the Governor” tells me something. Nothing comes from nothing. Sen Snowe is doing the right thing. People who have a chronic disease should be helped. We need to be efficient also.

  • Anonymous

    Oh boy! Sebelius to the rescue! The person who is
    going to control healthcare. She should stand
    outside and pass out condoms, one thing she
    probably would know how to do.

  • Anonymous

    I welcome Kathleen  Sebelius’ injection into the process as the State o’ Maine, particularly under LePage, has little clue what is going on. How could we, when there continues to be two different computer systems being used, one of which is incapable of interfacing with the other – causing a situation that cannot possibly change until the next, scheduled,  system upgrade?

    The fact that legislators, for months, had been standing around scratching their heads wondering how to even begin to fix the perceived problem, when nobody could actually put their hands on correct, up to date information and figures, speaks volumes.

    Pitching in to ‘help’ is the least HHS, now under Kathleen Sebelius, can do given that the Feds are the ones who insisted that all States advance to these more sophisticated computer systems or be penalized, fiscally, for not complying.

    I also suggest the State of Maine pursue any claims it may  have against corporations like Unisys and/or Molina who are for profit, private consulting businesses who stand to make a boatload of (more) money from Health Care (ie Medicaid/Medicare) Reform and the associated upcoming health insurance policy market businesses, along with all prior computer/IT systems consultants such as CNSI and Enterprise Information Systems etc. which were involved earlier and recived extensions on their expiring contracts.

  • Anonymous

    She looks like Ana Gasteyer from an SNL skit.

  • Anonymous

    Paul will probably tell them to kiss his fat red butt. LOL!!

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