Comments for: Lawmakers reach deal on DHHS budget

Posted Feb. 08, 2012, at 8:13 a.m.
Last modified Feb. 08, 2012, at 5:09 p.m.

AUGUSTA | Lawmakers on the Appropriations Committee reached an early morning deal Wednesday on an alternative budget proposal for the Department of Health and Human Services — a move that likely will send the budget to the House and Senate for votes next week. That’s where the real battle …

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  • Anonymous

    Now this makes a lot more sense then trying to gut 220 million all at once, any bets if Lepage will veto this bill?

  • midmainer

    LePage is a tool, and not the sharpest one in the kit, he needs to take some time off, look at history and the state’s constitution and learn exactly what the role and responsibilities of the office are. He still seems to assume that the citizens and legislators are his servants, his very own crew of cashiers and stock boys. Mr LePage, the legislators are your co workers, the citizens are you bosses. Maine is not your junk store. The state made a huge mistake by picking this dolt for the office, I’m glad the legislature is doing it’s job, it’s time for the governor to sit down, shut up, and do his job.

    • Anonymous

       You are making the assumption that Penguin has the ability to learn.  I’m not convinced that is true.  To make matter’s worse, he doesn’t seem to think that anybody out there has anything to teach him – he has all the answers and we are the one’s who don’t know anything. 

      • Anonymous

        Horror of horrors, perhaps he’s right.

        • Anonymous

          He’s right? About throwing childless adults off of MaineCare? Yes, it may save a few pennies in the short term, but it will cost ALL OF US a lot more in the long term. How many ways does that have to be said before you understand?

          • Anonymous

              A few pennies?.. LOL .. Your a funny liberal!!!

          • Briney

            Was your college prof’ Dr. Goebbels? 

          • Anonymous

            Well Im not sure what your getting at.. But I pay my own bills .. I dont know about you.. with money I earned..  So when the check book has no money in it.. You cant send out any more money..  So its simple addition and subtraction.. If  you need a chart or a graph or just to be told how to add and subtract Im sure I could get you some help

          • Anonymous

            Yes, billie, I agree, let everyone receiving help go die.

          • Anonymous

            nope … not die and just the ones that are using hard working tax paying citizens money that shouldnt be .. I apologize sir but I think the money that people pay into this fund should be handled with more respect … We owe it to the people that work everyday.. I hear allll about the people who need the money but I dont hear a d@$ed thing about the people who are struggling to pay it in.. If I had to choose a side I choose the side of the working men and women .. you sir can choose the other .. 

          • Anonymous

            What about all the working men and women who paid into these funds for years and years and deserve help now?  Are you going to kick them to the curb because they are no longer “working”??

          • Anonymous

            I will be the first to admit sir that i do not have all the answers. I do think the best way to get something done is to do something. anything is better than nothing. This is an unfortunate time and its going to make for unfortunate circumstances for some. I understand that. I dont want to be  on the other end of it either.. I know because I have been there in my life. I have lived it and ill tell you it isnt fun. I strongly feel that there has to be a standard or a line if you will in order to preserve the system and to protect the people that need it the worst and still look out for those from which the dollars came. Its easy for  us to sit back and say they all deserve help. Which probably is true But jeeze that puts one hell of  a strain on the people that are working so hard for it. I think we owe those people something even if its just feeling for them. I think everyone has good points and good ideas and if everyone could sit around and talk some of this out and both sides would give a little we might just get thru it.  I know full well that there is a lot of welfare abuse. I know because I have seen it full on time and time again. I believe if we could just cut out the abuse the benefits for those that need it the most would be protected and those who need temporary help would be able to to get it and the working man can sustain. This is not a socialist nation. It is a capitalist nation. The only promise here is a chance. There are no promises of if you dont make it dont worry  the rest of us will carry you.  We will do the best we can but we cant make it an easy target … Otherwise the whole system will fail.. As it is currently.. if it wasnt we wouldnt have 220 million dollar deficit in the first place  and you and I wouldnt be having this discussion

          • Briney

            You’re dealing with lives – human beings – and you say: “Anything is better than nothing?”

          • Anonymous

            Yes I am aware and yes I do.  Because if something isnt done the system cant sustain and it would be a heck of a lot more people lives that we would be talking about. We can either ride this train right to the end of the tracks or do something now. Either way .. there are human beings that will be adversely effected. I feel that making cuts now to a few  while still painful Ill admit will benefit the need of the many in the long run. If we are already right now 220 million dollars in a deficit…. what about next year?. I understand exactly what you mean and your point. but next year  lets say its 400 million… What kind of cuts do you think would have to be made then? Then we seriously would be looking at cuts to people who desperately NEED assistance.  There has to be a decision made and Lepage is in a jam. No matter what he does he is screwed. He was elected to do just what he is doing. and is faced with difficult decisions. Someone has to be cut. As far as I know he has picked 65000 younger childless citizens. Now I dont think that its going to make these young peoples life better at all. But I say its a heck of a lot better than cutting elderly or disabled or families benefits. I just dont see what is so hard to understand. You can not give out money that you dont HAVE..  Its simple …yeah its terrible, but you cant get what JUST isnt there.. not only that.. its a deficit .. meaning   not only is there not enough money..  we cant reach the goal.. by TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS… I think thats .. a pickle.. Im not sure that the severity of the situation is realized. Its easy to say. What about this what abut that. Its a tough time right now. I dont think americans understand what a tough time means. 

          • Anonymous

            It’s the GOP way!

          • Briney

            The teapublican rapid response team’s answer.  Romney is a standard bearer for the tea party cause. He publicly claims he has no use for poor Americans, and loves to pass out pi nk slips.  Le Page has no use for Mainers – just his tea party ideology.  Gov. Scott Walker in Wisconsin is dredging up millions to fight an impending recall for implementing tea party ideology on state workers. 

          • Anonymous

            You really think that cutting all of these people would save a lot of money? First, a vast majority of the money is spent by a very small percentage of people on the system, and those people are still going to be there. So the rest of them. Do you think think the people that would get cut are just going to stop going to the Dr’s? Well I guess they will stop going to a PCP and instead go to the ER who cannot refuse treatment based on ability to pay, and of course an ER visit is way more expensive than a PCP. So they are still going to generate a bill, but this time it will not be capped by the cheap rate that ManieCare gets. Whos’ going to pay this bill? Well the hospital will, then pass it on to you and I (in form of higher rates for services), which will be passed on to our insurance company(s) who will pass it on to us through higher premiums, that means that less people can afford insurance, so around we go. That’s the simple addition, though it’s a word problem and not a graph.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, indmainer…it’s called a really, really “hidden” tax.  We pay for it one way or the other.  And, I pay taxes and my own insurance and would still like to see these people get the help they need.  Their needs are financial…our response should be humanely and spiritually responsible.

          • Anonymous

            you are more than welcome to take as many of these people into your home as you like.  You are also welcome to pay extra taxes every year.  Some of us are just a little sick of working our butts off, NEVER having money to buy lobster, eating ramen and tuna and corn, feeding our kids spaghetti night after night and seeing others take their EBT cards, exchange this week’s value for cash and buying alcohol, OR buying lobster.  I cannot afford it, why should I be FORCED to pay for theirs?

            the state should not mandate any of this charity.  I should be allowed to choose to do it on my own.  This way, I can choose who uses the money wisely, and there is no governmental hack skimming 40% off the top.  Let the churches handle the charity.  it is not “humane” to MAKE me work for people I do not even know… sorry(how is this any different from the slavery that the XIVth amendment was supposed to have gotten rid of?  I am only a 35% slave, so it is ok?

          • Anonymous

            I’m not really sure what your comment has to do with what I said. And for the record Non-cat Mainecare and Welfare (which is what it seems you’re talking about) are two very different things. My point is we pay no matter what, and the alternative way could prove more expensive.

            I don’t get how you equate paying taxes to slavery, that’s a pretty far stretch. I pay my fair share of taxes too (I payed roughly 20k in taxes last year) which helped maintain the roads you use, the poilce force that protect you…and so on, so if I payed in more than you does that make me your slave?

          • Anonymous

            I just talked last week with a young woman that works at Hannaford and she mentioned how they exchange EBT for cash.  I did not know they could do that and am very upset about it.  I wonder how that works and how many hard working citizens that pay their way don’t even know about this

          • Anonymous

            These are the exact things Im talking about.. It goes on constantly … Dumping out water botltles to return the empties so they can buy cigs..   Eliminate smoking drinking and drug users from the welfare system and we may  be able to sustain

          • Anonymous

            You and I could be good friends!!!!

          • Anonymous

            I have to say. I applaud your reply.. SO many on here get so snide and me included. But let me say first your reply was with a level head very nicely put and make a great point. I cant understand why people on here cant talk normally and have discussion without cutting each other to shreds to get their point across..Bravo to you and thank you for a breath of fresh air. I will try to make my opinion in the same manner.
             
             While I think what you said makes sense I believe in the day and time we are living in the people who are working are struggling and the money that they have to give up to fund this sort idea comes hard. I feel as tho Lepage while quite a bit course is trying to get things in control and make a standard for those who are thinking they can get a free ride from the state. He is not an easy guy to like but I think he is trying to make the budget work and in the same motion trying to get the ones that are on the bubble out there and actively searching  for work. This is a very rough time we are living in.  A deficit right now could result in higher taxes. If I have to choose a side I have to side with people are working already. I know there are rough times out there but now isnt the time to be putting more weight on the working man. We may have to deal with tomorrows troubles … tomorrow. Maine has to change direction and something has to be done to get us going again. So many Maine jobs have been lost. I grew up in the hay day of the sardine factory. Not one in the state now. I watched every morning on the news more shoe factorys more textiles closing.. Mills … Armed forces bases . Loring Brunswick  Shcoodic base.. Honestly if you arent a fisherman who have had it hard and getting harder.. Same with any fishing due to regulations and Canada as a rival Or in service the working class do not have many options.  Maine has to try and do something.. Now…. We cant just keep giving our insurance to people who arnt working when the people who are paying for it are going without.. or out of reach deductibles… The working guy knows that an emergency visit is damed expensive and try like hell to wait for an apt when medic aid single 20 somethings go thru emergency for anything..because its fast.. Its just not fair and not respectful to the people who get up and drive to work every day. Most of the working people I know make sacrifices everyday. Byt milk food and heat and fore go cell phones, internet, cable … While I can take you to so many places where food stamps and state housing people have cell phones inter net and dish network.. This is just NOT fair to the people that are funding it. I know there are people out there that are fully entitled to benefits. I know there are elderly and disabled. I and I assume Lepage are not including these people.  I have grandparents and I have disabled relatives. I dont want to see them hurt. But to insure that they get what they deserve and to respect the working mans hard earned dollar .. We have to make a line in the sand and we owe it to him to make sure that its done within a budget. There has to be a limit. If we do not find a limit the entire system will fail and there will not be benefits available for the man that is paying today and yesterday..  Decisions have to be made and I stand on the side of the working people of Maine

          • Anonymous

            Thank you, and I agree that some (and I have too) get quite snide, guess the ability to hide behind a comptuer keyboard makes people say things that they wouldn’t face to face, though everyone is entitled to their opion.
             
            I feel I am on the side of “the working people” as well, I just see this in a different light. I agree that something has to be done, and no one can argue the fact that times are hard right now, the worl economy is horrible right now and will take time to rebound. Though there are jobs out there, but unfortunatley the people that need jobs don’t have to right skill sets or education for those jobs. I will not hide or deny that I do not care for Lepage, didn’t care for Baldacci either. My issue is that all-or-nothing strategies do not work, and this idea that we have to save a dime today and it doesn’t matter what it costs us tomorrow is part of the reason we are in the econmy we are. I am not going to pretend I know all the answers to this problem, becuase I don’t have all the facts in front of me. I believe there are better ways, and some compromise has to be worked out, and this voting party lines crap is just that. Healthcare is very disjointed, I work in it so I have a basis for my educated guess on what will happen if his idea is put into place. First we have to do a much better job around fraud and we have to start utilizing preventaive medicine instead of reactive medicine. If Lepage gets his way, it will be all reactive and will cost “the working people” a lot more money, it will drive up the cost of healthcare, and we will all pay for it, and personally I don’t want to. Anyways, I’m done with this topic, good-day.

          • Briney

             “I cant understand why people on here cant talk normally and have discussion without cutting each other to shreds to get their point across…”
             
              Introspection may help throw some light on the subject.  

          • Anonymous

            Well said indmainer.  For some reason I cannot fathom people don’t understand that it cost’s less to deal with the Cause than it does the Effect.

          • Briney

            You may find some inkling and  much needed help you need about  what I’m inferring, by visiting your local  library – a place  where they  loan books.  

            Like so many misinformed and condescending people on this comments board you sadistically  lump everyone differing with your Le Page Draconian ideology into one of two categories.  They’re  Welfare bums.  So they must  just be  socialists, or communists, or both.   Not surprisingly you  and your fellow Le Page clan  are the only people who work and pay taxes.  Dissidents  must be welfare frauds.

            To get a broader perspective of what is happening in Maine, especially  with your hero – Le Page, the lead story in today’s Bangor Daily News offers a clear  insight into the agonies of  reaching an agreement under the bullying eye of Le Page.  Then read David Farmer’s column. There are other stories all interrelated with this story.  

            Amid all of a frenzied Le Page chopping and slashing, it is also interesting to read that while all of this is going on, Le Page is pushing to provide state monetary assistance to religious schools.  No concern from the Le Page crowd over state-supported religious schools.  Perhaps you can apply your mathematical skills of add and subtract to this idea.

            As a footnote to the  Le Page blitzkrieg it’s interesting to read too, that Le Page’s communications director Peter Rogers has had  enough  trying to bridge the gap between bully and public and is quitting. Now its’ up to Adrienne Bennett to continue to pick-up and sweep up the mess after Le Page roars and pounds the desk.

          • Anonymous

            you are right and you fit all of said categories..  and thank you for the definition of a library I appreciate that. I admit I do not understand much of your liberal rhetoric. Even tho it sounds allll good and all. I think ill probably just go to work each day just the same way as I have done all my life. And all you guys with noting to do can sit around and read your books and decide how to dole out  the money that hard working people are handing you. Spew your rhetoric and make sure is justified within your group.. and maybe just maybe you people will get your wish and we will be a socialist nation after all. 

          • Anonymous

            *You’re*  just FYI

          • Anonymous

            *You’re*  just FYI

          • Anonymous

            So it may save ALOT of pennies in the very short term, but then everyone will go out and get pregnant,  or pay 60$ for a marriage certificate, to better qualify under a program to get more benefit $$

          • Anonymous

            what about the elderly huh

          • Anonymous

            innocent people will die from this very selfish

          • Anonymous

            take them into your home, if you are so worried about them.
            my whole life growing up in a mill town, my family ALWAYS took in kids whose parents were having a hard time, ALWAYS, and nobody told us we had to.

          • Anonymous

            A lesson that was obviously lost on you.

          • Anonymous

            i came from a milltown too. it is the older folk with health issues

        • Anonymous

          No, he’s wrong.

        • StillRelaxin

          Oh goody goody the LePage show is about to begin. Please tell us what you think of all the hard work, compromise, and sacrifice that these legislators have made (As well as those that will be made by so many of Maine’s most needy citizens) Paul.

      • Oldfishergeek

         Penguins can learn when positive reinforcement for desired behavior is used. 

        Unfortunately, he’s already been conditioned to the operate in a low margin, private sector operation that emphasized cutting expenses to obtain rewards (profit) for the owners and managers …… to hell with the employees.  The goal of government is to enhance the welfare of the populace by providing help for those events individuals cannot withstand without the support of community (e.g. fire, natural disasters, catastrophic illness, etc) and to provide a safe and nurturing environment for productive activities  (e.g. provide education, promote public health, etc).   This is why business expertise and behavior does not work well for governing.

        You might have better luck finding a young penguin.  

    • Anonymous

      Nice rant, not content. Make a positive suggestion. 

      • Anonymous

        what’s YOUR suggestion?

        • Anonymous

          He doesn’t have one.

        • Anonymous

          Restore the $150 million in tax cuts that Lepage insisted on last year, including the millions in tax breaks he threw to the rich. That’s my suggestion.

      • Anonymous

        Adopt the budegt AS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE BI-PARTISAN BUDGET COMMITTEE. There’s your positive suggestion.

    • Anonymous

      You assume that LePage is merely misguided and doesn’t understand the process. LePage knows full well what he is doing. He has made a career of getting his way by brow-beating and bullying anyone who didn’t see things “his” way.  LeThug is a tool of the Koch brothers who see corporate ownership of America.

      • midmainer

        That’s the other thing I keep thinking, what if this is a ploy directed by the MHPC ALEC alliance that is really calling the shots. when LePage huffs and puffs and earns his single digit approval rating, he is setting up the GOP majority in the legislature for a big win over the bully on the block. If LePage lets the budget go to law without his signature is that a win win for him? The GOP gets to brag how they took on their own party and went over the Governors head, and LePage can wash his hands of any budgetary negatives that come up for the next few years. Not having a well informed electorate, or a well heard media will work to their advantage this fall.
        Not sure, just a theory, maybe LePage is just an idiot.

        • Anonymous

          You might be on to something.
          I’ve been wondering if LePage threatened to veto to make democrats vote for the budget as well,
          to get everyone’s dirty fingerprints on this budget, so when the political fallout comes from these cuts, both parties will have to take the blame. 

          • midmainer

            unfortunate that the health and safety of maine citizens will suffer, because someone wants to protect his re election chances. politics is a sad sad game

      • Give me some examples of how LePage has made a career by brow-beating and bullying. I think that you are lying.

        • Anonymous

          He started quite young bullying other kids and stealing their Halloween candy. This is a fact that he has divulged all on his own. His thug behavior continues to this day. He should at some point understand that nearly 2/3  of Maine voters did not want him. http://www.sunjournal.com/LePage0317

    • Anonymous

      Absolutely. Theres no one who could have put it better. Thank you.

    • jimbobhol

      Same go’s for Obama right?

    • Anonymous

       One of the words that scares the hell out of me, when dealing with the government, is “DEAL.” Kinda gives me the impression someone or everyone is getting something in exchange for their support. The mob boss gives you a deal you can’t refuse. Shouldn’t be happening with my tax dollars.

    •  I think that LePage is doing a great job and if he is getting this kind of criticism from voters and the press, then he is moving Maine in the right direction.  Far too many voters in Maine are on welfare and want to remain there.  Far too many people look for the government to help them so that they do not have to help themselves.  Maine’s “entitled” citizens want to remain that way – they know no other way of life.  Gone are the days of personal responsibility.  We now define life as rights and entitlements and look to government to give it to us.  Its not real and its not sustainable, but what the hell, we’ll all be dead before the day of reckoning comes.

      • Anonymous

        Gone are the days of community responsibiltity as well. Since the community no longer looks after their neighbors (and instead – judges and begrudges them,) and we do NOT live in a Democratic Liberatarian State but a Democratic Republic, we are all responsible for our Brother. If the community doesn’t do it, than our taxes must. And it’s always amazing to me that you folks know for a fact of these people who are living “entitled” lives. Have you ever found out why? What’s holding them back? Is there something you can do to help? Could you drive them to work or take care of their children or tutor them after work or get them to councelling or their doctor’s appointments?

        Pride cometh before the fall, or so I’ve read!

        • Anonymous

          i do not want the government making any of my decisions for me.  I do not want the government taking anything from me and giving it to anyone else.
          I do not mind paying for police, roads and some other infrastructure, but health insurance should NOT be public.  It drives prices WAY up. 

          whatever, it is like talking religion, I cannot convince a believer that there really are no magic unicorns, be believer already knows better.

          • Anonymous

            there ya go!  I agree!

      • Hey! {Gone are the days of personal responsibility}

        Dont give me that bull!

        I pay MY taxes!

        Man up!

        Pay Yours!

      • Anonymous

        I just found out this morning a social worker advised a young women with a 5-year old daughter she would be better off staying on welfare than accepting a full time job at minimum wage scale not including tips. (This social worker ought to be fired) This woman has been on welfare for at least 3 or 4 years, has attended college at tax payer expense in two separate semesters only to drop out each time, and earns money that goes unreported. This woman is healthy and alert but feels she has it all coming to her. Yet we have way too many legislators who still refuse to acknowledge the reality of welfare over-dependency. Yes, I agree with the governor, our social welfare system needs major re-structuring.

        • Anonymous

          That sounds like complete bull. A social worker cannot change the requirments for a person receiving TANF and you cant keep enrolling in school and dropping out and still qualify for Financial aid.
          And…if what you say is true and you dont report it YOU are part of the problem as well.

          • Anonymous

            It most certainly does sound like as you put it, bull. First off how many tipped workers actually work full time? If as the poster claims it is a job at minimum wage is it at the tipped employee minimum of $3.75 per hour? Don’t you love how all of these people just magically happen to “just find out this morning” about someone who is gaming the system? I think what we really need here in Maine is a law that makes it a crime to know about someone who is gaming the system and not report it. Just think the whawell’s of the world could solve the “welfare fraud” problem practically overnight. That is if what they are saying (wink wink) is true.

          • Anonymous

            ive seen it first hand and reported it and nothing happened to the person i reported. so this makes me happy finally useless lazy people will have to get their lazy butt out of bed and get a job

        • Guest

          I’m certain your post will be garner support despite that it is unsubstantiated.  However, if a social worker stated the facts — comparing the minimum wage job — apparently waitressing? – with the requirements of working:  child care, tramsportation, more personal upkeep, and no guarantee of job security, to meager but steady, assistance, that is all the social worker did.

          Do you not also believe in the importance of a mother raising her child and that women should be able to stay at home with their children, and only work part time or not at all, during the first few years of their lives should be supported in doing so.  If a mother is also a wife with a wage-earning husband, that is completely sanctioned.  That’s one of the “payoffs.”

          You manage to a portray, minus the subjective comments, a young woman who is, in fact, wanting to work, is willing to work, does work, has sought additional education.   What work does she do that, if she could do it on a regular basis and not lose benefits – such as they are — she would welcome.

          • Anonymous

            You misunderstood my post. Obviously if a single woman can work and won’t work so as not to lose her benefits completely, there is something wrong with the system. I agree, she needs to be able to support herself, but the system apparently is not designed to permit her to do so. It needs re-structuring!

          • Anonymous

            And I repeat, hearsay!!!  Were you there when she was told that?

          • Anonymous

            Whatever I say in this post is all hearsay, if you want to be technical. But I am personally satisfied with the accuracy of the anecdote because it comes from a reliable source. Why are you trying to discredit me if not for the fact that I might have a valid point?

          • Anonymous

            Might have a valid point?

            The entire purpose of your posts is to discredit the working class as a whole, citing stories that you “heard” about an unverifiable person.

            In your mind, the fact that your anecdotes “might be true” is the important thing.

            In my mind, the word “nonsense” crops up in ALL-CAPS.

          • Anonymous

            Mom and apple pie.

            Oh wait, Mom is now a bloodsucking parasite…

            Your Mom?

            Didn’t think so…

            Cue martial music and video for Whawell to make the next point.

          • Anonymous

            Maybe i mis-understood you :( do you really think that if you are married and have children then you should not work ?????? you are kidding yourself and are just as bad as the rest of those out there that think this way IF this is what you meant in your post.

        • Anonymous

          Lots of antecdotes, not many facts. Glad I have a more productive life than those who spend every waking moment spying on their neighbors and checking out their grocery carts. In the quarter mile on each side of my home, there are a total of 10 houses. I have not the slightest idea of what happens in their homes, what their income is and what most of them have for hobbies or items that welfare recipients should not be allowed to have. I don’t know these things nor do I want to. I don’t even know if any of them get welfare. It’s enough to take care of my life without worrying what my neighbors have and are doing. Those who do that, need to get a life!!!

          • Anonymous

            No ma’am, I usually mind my own business. The information I received was not sought after as you wrongly assumed. Anyway, my point in this entire discussion is that the system needs fixing. The anecdote serves well to illustrate my point.

          • Anonymous

            Ah, a fabricated anecdote to “illustrate” your point.

            Got it.

            Any other fabrications to illustrate any other points?

          • Anonymous

            how much extra do you pay?  to be humane?

          • Anonymous

            Humanity has a price?

            Interesting concept.

            The price of inhumanity just may be higher.

            Just may.  Be.

        • Anonymous

          Apochryphal nonsense.

          Sort of a composite lumpen entity, eh?

          • Anonymous

            I’ve come up with an illustration to prove my point the welfare system needs revamping. There are many others as well. Now, where’s your coounterpoint? Simply denying the truth doesn’t change it.

        • Anonymous

          Blah blah blah.  Oh grow up will ya!  Of course there is going to be a small percentage of people who exploit things to their advantage.  Look at Romney’s tax status!  But that doesn’t mean all folks who in dire need avail themselves of social assistance are bad, or lazy, or drug addicts, or drunks, or gamblers.  We shouldn’t ignore those in need because a few are bad apples.  Frankly I don’t believe this story.  The same tale predictably comes out on a regular basis.

          • Anonymous

            It’s not blah, blah. You just don’t want to hear about any cuts in welfare that keeps growing and growing and creating a larger entitlement class. Welfare should only be for those who truly need it. There are now more people on some form of welfare than there are working people who support them. The truth of the matter is that this can’t go on indefinitely, and unless we stop the growth in welfare, the welfare class will vote in only politicians who will support more entitlements. This situation will then become irreversible and is unsustainable for economic reasons.

        • midmainer

          why would this surprise you in this administration? it’s exactly what lePage claimed that HE DID! During the campaign he talked about his “poster child” one of the best office employees he had, and that for 3 years he conspired with her to keep her pay at $10 an hour so she would stay under the threshold for benefits. He was bragging that he personally defrauded the state, and cheated the employee out of thousands of dollars

          • Anonymous

            What does your comment have to do with the fact the system needs reform? Your comment is irrelevant and appears to be an attempt to change the subject. If you’re against welfare re-structuring, then just state the reason why you are.

          • midmainer

            Did not say the system does not need reform. But your beloved governor is heading in the wrong direction. the example he has set, from his former job at Mardens , is one that is not uncommon here. what needs to be reformed is the attitude from the top. The poor need help, if it does not come from employers doing their jobs in an ethical human way, then it must come from the state, which is money coming from us. For Mr LePage to campaign about how he himself abused/defrauded the system was a farce, but now he campaigns against welfare be demonizing those who get benefits. He plays both sides of the fence, but not very intelligently

          • Anonymous

            Again, you’re changing the subject by trying to put the governor on trial instead of arguing for or against welfare reform. How about a little reasoning here. If you’re against welfare reform, then simply state why. I’ve already stated my reason why I agree with the governor on the need for reform. What’s your reasoning? 

      • Guest

        Well said- I agree 100 %

      • Anonymous

        I cant agree with you more!  I see this everyday. People are very comfortable with there second or third income.. Im told by liberals that people like this is a myth.. Such as big foot.. But Im here to say that its no myth.. the exist and its costing us.. Hes wants to clean it up and its scaring the pants off people who have grown quite comfortable.. Hes poked a beehive and Its high time… He is doing exactly what he was elected to do.. GO LEPAGE GO

        • Briney

          Hearken to the Brown Shirt propaganda.

          • Anonymous

             The only brown shirts in Maine are the ones sent to your door if you fail to pay tribute to Augusta.

          • Anonymous

            Silver Shirts next, and hitherto.

          • Briney

            It’s an ideology – see tea party. 

        • Anonymous

          In realty, people should not have to work 2 or 3 jobs just to stay afloat. I have met several women that work at least 2 jobs, and I would not call them very comfortable, merely hanging on.

          • Anonymous

            So..in reality then, should I have to get a second job to support them so that they don’t have to? Or should they live the life that they made for themselves, through their own decisions, and do what it takes to survive like the rest of us do?
            I have worked two jobs when I had to, and certainly didn’t expect my neighbors to help support me.

          • Anonymous

            I was replying to Billie 77. Read her post and then read mine. You missed my point entirely. No, I don’t expect you to work two jobs in order to support other people.

          • Anonymous

            what can I say .. I know it sucks but these are tough times… I hate it … but if its a difference of having to make sacrifices well.. as I said.. these are the hardest times we have seen in a very long time.. I know that a couple working shouldnt be giving up more than they should so that someone else in that same position can live better.. Its a desperate time sir.. Its not going to be easy. Everyone has make sacrifices .. Me included .. Im not the 1%  thats for darn sure. I am burning wood pellets and struggling to pay the light bill. But  we are sacrificing and we are doing it without help . It can be done . I can assure you.

      • Anonymous

        Just a sec here, please.

        Mainers are a bunch of slackers who want to rely on the gumment?

        Are you from away?

        Not that it matters.

        Just sayin’

    • Kitchell

      I don’t see what the big deal is here. Lepage is simply representing the people who elected him. Hes not a polished politician like some are but he knows what needs to be done and hes making the tough decisions you need to make as a leader. Not caving in to the vocal minority who are incessantly wanted to borrow and spend to support free services.  What dignity do people have if they let the government support them at every turn and they can’t support their own families and hold a job. theres rampant abuse of this system. we need to trim it while maintaing support for the vulnerable and needy, not the lazy.

      • Anonymous

        Sometimes, they don’t have a choice!! You’d be surprised how little abuse there actually is compared to someone like you disagreeing with another person’s choices. All we ever hear is “I heard” or “I know someone” or “someone told me”. If you believe there is actual fraud, report it. If not you are just as guilty as they are.

    • Anonymous

      “The people of Maine spoke in November 2010…” Yeah. All the Democrats were kicking themselves for casting ballots for Libby Mitchell via the early voting system, two weeks before it was crystal clear that Cutler was the only other candidate that stood a chance.

      • Anonymous

        Which is why there should be a run-off voting, a second round of voting for the top two candidates, for the times when the winner of the first round wins less than 50% of the vote.

    • Anonymous

      LePage can be used as the perfect example for why business people aren’t good substitutes for real politicians. Politicians must understand the laws of the land, especially their role as members of the executive or legislative branches. It takes more than knowing how to manage a bottom line.

      • Anonymous

        which law did Obama understand when he forced health insurance into the public domain?

    • Anonymous

      He is probably in his home state of Florida by now, or his home country of Canada, but he also seems to like Jamaica as well. When the going gets tough Paul gets going. 

  • Anonymous

    The governor “sold his soul to the Devil long ago”??  Well there goes the Christian right vote in 2014.

    • The governor “sold his soul to the Devil long ago”?? 

      Yup! He did!

      Grover Norquist own’s him!
       

  • hasacluemaine

    Ok Maine Republicans. Maine has joined twenty-five other States, in filing suit against ObamaCare, yet you have included the provisons of that Federal mandate in your budget. I refer to the 133% threshold of poverty for eligibility to MaineCare. Are you Republicans or Dermocrats?

    • Anonymous

      So it sounds like you think they should have left it at 200%.  Is that your suggestion?

    • Anonymous

      Because if it’s on the books, it’s still the law until ruled unconstitutional… go below 133% and WE’RE the ones getting sued

  • kcjonez

    …….”It’s not yet clear how Gov. Paul LePage will react to the alternative budget.”…….

    I’ll place my wager on a major tantrum that puts all blame on democrats and all hope on MHPC……takers?  

    • Put me down for $10 on “Throwing himself down on his office floor, kicking, screaming, and otherwise throwing a temper tantrum that would put any 2 year old to shame until one of his minions brings him a lolipop”

      • Anonymous

        Probably Adrianne Bennett will be the one giving him the lolipop.  Right after she tries to put a positive “spin” on his tantrum.

      • Anonymous

        I’m sorry there will be no tantrum. Instead there will be a celebration taking place in the Governor’s office. He just got practically everything he had hoped to get. Remember this is a man who told Don Carrigan that he was a great actor. 

        • Anonymous

          I never knew the word actor is french for liar. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

    • Anonymous

      Not knowing the full details of the proposal, it is unclear how the governor will react. My guess? If the budget passes the house and senate, he will sign it. He won’t have a choice if it gets 2/3 vote–what point is there to veto something and then get it overridden?
      The governor signed the budget last time, even though it didn’t include his plan for MaineCare, he will sign this one. But, we will all be back having this same discussion a year from now, because nothing has been solved. This budget is a band-aid on a gaping wound.

  • Anonymous

    The following is too good not to share. Boy, do I see these attitudes here:

    THE TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this… The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing The fifth would pay $1 The sixth would pay $3 The seventh would pay $7 The eighth would pay $12 The ninth would pay $18 The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59 So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20”. Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men ? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay. And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving). The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings. “I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,”but he got $10!” “Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!” “That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!” “Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!” The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics. For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible
     

    • KC

      That lame email was virally forwarded around 10yrs ago and David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics has posted a rebuttal on his personal website denying authorship. However, he does use it as well as the following scenario for his tax students so that they may “think” outside the box. 
       
      Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and they order 10 glasses of beer (or 120 ounces of beer). If they split up the beer the way that wealth is distributed in the U.S.A, it would go something like this:

      The first five men (the poorest) would get a sip of beer each or 0.672 ounces. The next four men would get a small glass of beer each or 8.22 ounces.
      The tenth man (the richest) would get 7 glasses of beer or 83.76 ounces.
      The ten men went to the bar every day and the tenth man seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. “Inflationary pressures are rising,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the amount of your daily beer by 20 ounces. You will now receive 10 glasses of 10-ounces each, or 100 ounces total.”The group still wanted to split up the beer the way that wealth is distributed in the U.S.A. How could they divide the loss of 20 ounces of beer so that everyone would lose his ‘fair share?’ They realized that 20 ounces divided by ten is 2 ounces. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the first five men would have to pay the bartender 1.328 ounces of beer each. So, they decided to only take 0.672 ounces of beer from each of the first 5 men and take the remaining 16.64 ounces from the remaining 5 men.
      Each of the first five men would give up the sip of beer (0.672 ounces) that they received (a loss of 100%).Each of the sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth men would give up 1.17 ounces each (a loss of 14.2%). The tenth man would give up 11.95 ounces of beer (or a loss of 14.2%).
      The result: Each of the first five men would receive no beer. Each of the next four men would receive 7.05 ounces.
      The tenth man would receive 71.81 ounces of beer. Each of the first five was worse off than before, having lost all of their beer. The next 4 were worse off, since they no longer received a full 8-ounce glass of beer. The tenth man still received 71.81 ounces (~ a six-pack), and was still happy.
      But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their losses.
      The first five men said, “We lost a sip of beer each. We don’t get beer any more.””Well, we lost more than a quarter of our beer” said the next four men “It’s unfair that you only lost a sip of beer. We lost twice as much as each of you did.””Wait a minute!” yelled the tenth man. “I gave up a whole glass of beer! I gave up more than all of you combined!!! The poor get all the breaks! First, they get free beer, and then they complain when they lose their free beer! The middle class are always whining about everything because they’re too dumb to get as much beer as I do.
      “The tenth man called security, and the first 5 men were told to leave the premises, since they could not afford to pay for any beer. The next 4 men stood silently watching, not wanting to risk the loss of any of their remaining beer.
      The tenth man got into his chaufferred limo and went home.
      The next night the first five men didn’t show up for drinks, so the remaining five sat down to have beers without them. But, they discovered something important.
      The first five men didn’t show up to:
      * harvest the grain and hopps to make the beer
      * drive the trucks to bring the beer to the bar
      * clean the beer glasses and sweep the floor of the bar
      * serve the beer* and, most importantly, work as the security guards to protect the tenth man and his beer.

      And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, wingnuts and supply-siders, big-c and little-c conservatives, is how wealth is distributed in the U.S.A. The people who have the most money get the most beer. Take too much “beer” from the poorest people, belittle them for being poor, and they just may not show up anymore to make and serve your beer.

      • An excellent responce to an obvious supporter of the 1%. Thank you for your extremely relevant argument.

        • This is a Ridiculous analogy!
           
            If the rich guy drank in proportion to his wealth the bar tender would have thrown the darn drunk out the first day!

      • Anonymous

         Your scenario assumes that all of these “little people” are out there working hard. The problem, you see, is that they are NOT. They are sitting up with their hands out, telling anyone who will listen that they “just deserve” the handouts they have become accustomed to.

        • KC

          Right, because every blue collar worker in the US is just looking for a handout. BS! We just want to be paid a fair wage and be taxed accordingly. I’ve seen many grown men have to swallow their pride because they lost their job security to the liquidation of the “American economy.” Like the majority of working folks, I will be taxed on my ENTIRE income throughout my lifetime. There is NO cap for people making under 100,000. Imagine if SS cap was removed and the rich had to pay the same percentage on their entire life income like everyone else. Why should the 1% get the biggest tax breaks while the working class fight for crumbs? The rich arent stupid. They know the blame will be placed on the poor. The rich oversaw the liquidation of the American economy by shipping our jobs overseas, swelling the cost of college educations, introducing debt as a replacement for income, and moving all the wealth to themselves.

          The point is, we forgot about the common good, the basis of true capitalism as Adam Smith would put it, in our lust for the American myth of indivualism, the “I’ve got mine, the hell with you.”
           After spending centuries killing each other, the Europeans discovered that taking care of each other would have long term benefits,that preventative medicine would keep people in a state of wellness, and create productive workers. The fact that we are unwilling to take care of our own shows how far down the scale we have sunk.

          • Guest

            You forget that SS is supposed to be an insurance program.  As such the amount you receive at retirement is based on your pay and contributions.  The amount you receive is capped just as is the amount you are taxed on.   Eliminate the cap on contributions and you will have to pay out similar huge payments to those who make huge contributions

            Or you could just give up the lie that SS is an insurance program and admit it is really a welfare program supported by taxes.  then removing the cap would make sense.  That would “fix” SS.

            Now what do you propose for Medicare where the unfunded future expenses makes the SS problem look minuscule?

            And the majority of poor are poor for reasons.  And most of those reasons can be traced back to government or personal decisions.

          • Anonymous

             Or. You could really look at all of those so-generous European countries we’re forever hearing about. France? Italy? Greece? The Gravy Train is about to crash over there. I wonder who they’ll blame, and I wonder what they are going to do… They ran out of Other Peoples’ Money too!

          • Anonymous

            it is not “I’ve got mine, the hell with you”
            it is, “I worked hard to get an education to learn how to start the business, I worked 70 hours a week and misses most of my kids’ baseball games” I took a second job so that I could afford equipment for the company… I built the ship, I designed the engines and I worked extra to buy the fuel and pay for the insurance… I CHOOSE WHO GETS A RIDE

            now Obama is telling me that I have to give free rides to everyone he chooses?

        • Anonymous

          You have it all wrong. Not every poor person is looking for handouts most of us work very hard and hardly get paid for all the work being done…I know I work in health care.

        • Anonymous

          Maine historical culture is one of demanding handouts?

          Are you from away?

          Not that it matters.

      • Guest

        Your analogy fails because the 5 men receiving the free beer stopped working when they first started getting the free beer.  Long before they got kicked out of the bar.

        You also forgot about who was paying for the beer all along….

        • Anonymous

          notice it was a soviet analogy… the beer was free in the first place… government beer… all is wonderful in a eutopia

      • Anonymous

        Very well said…love it!

      • Anonymous

        i hate to tell you, because you will never understand, but your first precepts were faulty.
        you started with “the men were going to divide up the beer the way that wealth is divided”
        if they were going out for a beer, then each should have paid for what they ordered and what they were going to drink, otherwise, going to a bar makes no sense.

    • Anonymous

      I have heard this story before.  I understand exactly what it is saying.  My response to this is quite simple honestly.  If the rich man who can afford to pay the largest ammount for the beer doesnt like his friends, maybe he SHOULD choose other friends.  I dont think anyone minds buying a buddy a beer, but he is not about to GIVE him his house.  Funny though that when times are tough, its those poor men that lose thier house, but the rich man that sits back and watches his buddies live in boxes.  Where did the Rich man make his money?  Off the back of other rich people?  No…….Off the back of those same buddies he just bought a beer for.  If i could bottle up the entire 1% and send them all to CHINA, well then i would do it in a heartbeat.  Lets start over.  Lets treat every American the same and ask the same from each one.  Class warfare??……as that Tea Party Antagonist Sarah Palin would say….YEP< YOUBETCHA!!!!

      • Anonymous

         I find it interesting when the libs characterize people who have the money to invest in industry as making their money “off the backs” of the poor, downtrodden workers. In reality, those investors are taking a chance with their money – risking it – in hopes of making more money. That is not a bad thing, you know, it represents the highest ideals of commerce in that the resulting industry creates jobs and incomes for all those “little people” who deign to show up to work. The “off their backs of” commentary is straight out of the big labor/Marxist playbook; it is supposed to justify the demonization of capitalists.  So – how many jobs has your liberal socialist welfare government created today? None? Bingo! Give the man a kewpie doll!

        • Anonymous

          Nice fairy tale: ‘ In reality, those investors are taking a chance with their money – risking it – in hopes of making more money. ‘  “Risking it” makes them sound ever so noble and wanting to make the world a wonderful place, a virtual Utopia.  Let’s nominate them all for sainthood!

          Here’s a reality for you: THEY’RE GREEDY AND THEY WANT MORE MONEY AND THEY’LL STEP ON ANYONE THEY NEED TO TO GET IT.

          • Anonymous

             “Greedy” investors built this nation. Government didn’t create the wealth that allowed us to be the arsenal of democracy through many wars, and government didn’t create the wealth that government gave away so freely to the rest of the world. The American wealth that saved and rebuilt Europe after TWO world wars was not created by politicians. Now, all of our money is gone, and we have borrowed against the resources of future generations. Laborers and middle managers gladly signed on with the giant corporations and earned wages that paid for their food and their kids’ educations and family vacations, and all of the other things that folks want. They didn’t go to work to make “The Man” rich, they went to work for the betterment of themselves and their kids. The Man got rich because he invented or sold or managed something that lots of folks wanted a piece of. Henry Ford, mass produced cars. Eli Whitney, cotton gin. Edison, incandescent lamps. Bill Gates, operating system for computers. The list is virtually endless. Now, YOU want to penalize these people for busting their butts and providing for the rest of us? Just who made you the arbiter of money management? What are your qualifications for justifying taking property away from some folks and giving it to other folks?

          • Anonymous

            Tell me how a CEO making 400 times the salary of the average worker fits in to your little simplified version of life?  Do you know why there are no jobs in Maine?  It’s because your ‘investors’ sent all those jobs to China so they afford another trip around the world.  

            No one’s taking about   ‘taking property away from some folks and giving it to other folks’  It’s called PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE.  Is that a hard concept to understand?  If you are making 400 times the average person’s salary you should be paying a lot more in taxes than you are.

          • Anonymous

            there are no jobs in maine because the same libs who hate greedy corporations also will not let one move it, if it has a smokestack, or if there will have to be infrastructure build around it, because it will upset the delicate ecosystem and the worms need a place to call home.
            no jobs in maine because NIMBY, and because taxes are too high.  NOrth carolina and North Dakota stole many of the jobs because their governors understand that if you charge ZERO corporate income tax and ZERO property tax to the corporations, then the state will reap in MILLIONS in income tax, home property tax, sales tax on all the things the new people buy, etc.  But the pols don’t get that

          • Paulie, you have no idea as to just how close to the truth you are. Just go look at the NAFTA Agreement’s and their consequences AND who benefited and look at where they are now. As it was said in he movie “Show me the money !!!”

          • Anonymous

            I do not think you will find many complaints about the Fords, Edisons and Gates of the world. They created and continue to create good paying jobs with benefits. They gave and continue to give unselfishly to those who are less fortunate.

            I do think you will find the complaints are leveled against the Waltons, LePages, McDonalds and Wendys of the world — who, with their low paying jobs with few if any benefits,  have created a whole new class in our nation known as the working poor.

            The 6 Waltons by themselves have a combined wealth greater than the combined wealth of the lower 30% of the country’s population. And for that their bulk of their employees are paid 17 to 19,000 per year with very few benefits. Oh I forgot they do give them free counseling on how to apply for welfare benefits.

          • Anonymous

            right… and you say that like greed is a bad thing…. if it were not for GREED, then none of the workers who have no ideas of their own would have ever made a dam cent.
            yes, they did risk it, and they allowed others to ride the gravy train… if they did not like what they were getting paid, they were free to live in their friend’s basement for a couple years and get a different degree or training.

            the fact that the greedy ones start companies is what gives the workers jobs.

          • Anonymous

            Thank you Gordon Gekko!

        • Get a Clue!

          Corporate Laws shield Investors from Bankruptcy!

          Individuals Get thrown under the Bus!

          • Anonymous

            where did you study law?
            you are 100% wrong.
            the laws shield the investors from certain types of liabilities, for example if MY corporation’s employee gets in a car accident, the most I can lose, is my investment, say $2Milllion,  NOT the $6Million dollars the injured person wants to collect.  I lose my investment, the corporation goes bankrupt and the injured person cannot collect any more from me.

      • Anonymous

        I think if you bottled up the 1% and sent them all to China, in five years time you would have a new set of 1%ers and you would have to pack them off also.  Of course,  as long as we could keep the money here and redistribute it, that would work.

    • Anonymous

      Big problem-it’s all a fabrication and the esteemed professor Kamerschen did not author it. Check his personal website: http://davidk.myweb.uga.edu/

      http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/howtaxes.asp

      • pbmann

        Conservatives have been making up quotes and emails from well known or respected people since the internet began to forward an agenda that has to rely on made up facts or scenarios to forward their views. 

        You would think that if their positon was so right they would not have to make up these ‘facts’.

    • I hope it stays on here, I posted it once and it got removed.

    • Anonymous

      so how is that any different than what the rich do today?

    • I guess this all started with you.  I got a little dizzy trying to read everything.  Paragraphing helps. 

      But the bottom line is this.  In the last two years Mitt Romney “earned” $40,000,000 while he was running for President.  He also has been able to use the tax system to “gift” his sons $100,000,000.  So this scenario you or Dr. Kamerschen poses doesn’t seem to fit the good old USA at all. 

      Parenthetically, Mitt Romney boasts of not receiving money from his parents.  I wonder how he squares his parents’ lack of generosity with his own parental tax-aided generosity.

      • jimbobhol

        Guess what none of it is your money.

      • Anonymous

         I am not defending Mitt Romney. By the way, he is NOT a 2nd Amendment true believer.

      • Anonymous

        why does he need to?  it is his money

    • Anonymous

      There are owners, and there are producers?

      Who produced the beer?

      You somehow forgot the part about the labor involved in producing the commodity.

      Howzzat for an explanation?

    • Anonymous

      ” Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not
      show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the
      atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.” 

        Mitt says that the Swiss and the Cayman Islands brew the best beer!

  • Lord Whiteman

    Dec. 12  2011
    State Health and Human Services Commissioner Mary Mayhew says a plan to drop about 65,000 people from the state’s MaineCare program will have repercussions that go far beyond a loss medical of medical benefits. “There’s very little that can be done within this medicaid program that isn’t going to have an effect on Maine’s economy or that won’t have an effect on commercial health insurance premiums,” Mayhew says.

    As a former lobbyist for the Maine Hospital Association, Mayhew used to brief lawmakers on the financial hardships hospitals face when those without health insurance rely on emergency rooms in seeking medical care. She says that those numbers will rise under the LePage administration’s plan to cut $220 million dollars from the state budget over the next 18 months.  

  • Anonymous

    Governor Liepage sold his soul when he signed The Norquist Pledge..  He has vowed to not sign any bill that did non give him what he wanted. And that is, Cutting all non-categoricals.. I wonder if these Republicans know that this sort of public assistance is necessary to our economy? All the cuts these guys are trying to do could be political suicide? The latest is Obama signing the Birth control law.. The GOP turned the meaning of the language all around and the dumb people are against him doing so.. Mostly women 59 percent of them voted they would rather pay for their own birth control, Other than have the insurance cover it 100 percent.. These Republicans are good at brainwashing people.. They must have weak minds or something..

  • Guest

    I hope the Governor vetoes this and sends the message back to the legislators.
    We Are Broke.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like a ‘well thought out’ plan, NOT.

      • When did the poor become the enemy? Honestly shouldn’t we be looking at the top and working down considering the dire impact cuts like these will have on the most at need. Also, what the hell happened to empathy in this administration? Lepage grew up with nothing and knows how hard it can be, but yet he wants to let em’ go hungry in the street like its there fault or they chose to be poor. 

        • Guest

          The poor and the elderly and the truly disabled are not the enemy as you state.
          There is nothing in the Gov. plan to cut these poor souls off.
          Its the people who are on the dole and refuse to help themselves that need to get a job and get off the welfare role.

    • Anonymous

      Um, the budget ADDRESSES the artifical “shortfall” created by the Goobner’s tax break. If LePage is too hell-bent on pushing the regressive ideology, then the legislature will push back.

    • Jeff

      Raise the taxes!!!

    • Guest

      Hear hear

    • The ONLY thing Broke is,

       Tax Grumps Morals!

  • PabMainer

    It is good to hear that a “deal” has been reached and that the proposal has bi-partisan support from the committee……the reporting that “neither side was entirely thrilled with the final product” leads to the belief that compromise actually did happen, and hopefully the folks that truly need help and support will continue getting what is deserved…..thanks to the committee for your work on this budget….

  • Anonymous

    “LePage told Mal Leary of Capitol News Service on Tuesday. “A majority budget doesn’t do it because it takes too much time and a two-thirds budget will not happen unless you sell your soul and I sold my soul to the devil long ago.”
    …………………

    Really Paul, do you care to elaborate or is this another misspoken flub?

  • Anonymous

    Continue to cut the waste…..

    • Anonymous

      Not a very nice way to put that comment “waste” ? Really what are you referring too ? I never use to believe people could associate themselves with evil but just reading the comments here on BDN has convinced me that there is alot of evil in this world. Glad I am not. I say leave the poor alone…there are other people to cut other than the poor!

  • Anonymous

    Jeesh My 4 year old acts better then LePage does, and surly doesn’t throw temper tantrums and threats when he doesn’t get his own way… That being said….

    It doesn’t matter who gets in office.  They all say what we want to hear to get elected then for some strange reason, nothing they talked about ever gets done. However the fact is that we need changes.  Do I agree with is thinking..  Not on most except that we are going broke and need money to keep Maine going.   Maybe LePage should get off his salary for a couple of months and put this towards the shortages we are seeing.  No matter what is done there will ALWAYS be someone not happy. 

  • Anonymous

    Someone PLEASE put this man in a straightjacket and take him down to Riverview Psychiatric Hospital and lock him up in a rubber room!

    • Reagan closed most of those Hostpitals,

      I think that they have been reopened as Tea Party Headquarters!

      • Anonymous

        LOL!

      • Anonymous

        No i do believe in the 70’s they were voting booths for democrats. Thats why we have this problem now.

  • So LePage told Mal Leary of Capitol News Service on Tuesday. “A majority budget doesn’t do it because it takes too much time and a two-thirds budget will not happen unless you sell your soul and I sold my soul to the devil long ago.” Yes, we know you sold your soul to the devil long ago! Lepuke is a Bully and a Thug who rules as if he was a God. MAD!~

    • Anonymous

      He is far off from being a “god”…he is NOT ethical by any means and I cannot believe anyone would ever listen.

  • Anonymous

    “Democrats are hell intent on sitting on their hands,” LePage told Mal Leary of Capitol News Service on Tuesday. Ummmm…Hey LIEpage…your ROBthePUBLICan party controls the Legislature…and you and your Heritage goons are STILL blaming “the Liberals.” Get a clue pal. 
    “A majority budget doesn’t do it because it takes too much time and a two-thirds budget will not happen unless you sell your soul and I sold my soul to the devil long ago.” No and Yes, Paul…Apparently a majority budget doesn’t take that long…but I believe you DID sell your non-existent soul to the Heritage goons long ago… 

    • Anonymous

      As well as the Koch brothers. Maybe he’s their brother from another mother too.

  • Anonymous

    You could not have said it any better. Thank you.

  • Anonymous


    Appropriations Committee members balked at some of the items in the governor’s budget and have worked for week to find alternatives.”

    For week?

    BDN: 

    “have worked for a week”
    OR
    “have worked for weeks”

    …?

    • Anonymous

      Procrastinated for 5 weeks is more like it.

  • Anonymous

    LePage is such an embarrassment.   We need to figure out a way to remove him  from office far earlier than our next election at the ballot box.   He is destroying the confidence of Maine citizens and injuring those who can least endure his profound stupidity.

    • Anonymous

      Lepage is trying to close a budget gap.

      You need to face the harsh reality that these programs that the democraps have set up for decades are not sustainable. Cuts must be made.
      eventually you run out of money if you keep giving it away.

      As far as mainecare goes, think of it this way: There are no increases to the Mainecare budget, but there are always increases in enrollment.
      eventually you reach a point where the number of enrollments and the cost of covering them exceed the amount of money being poured into the program.

      we are at that point.

      • Anonymous

        we have passed that point

  • Anonymous

    if the health care issue is coming close to resolveing the issues that caused the great divide. the lawmakers should just give mainers the same health care that they have. we have supported them and will continue to pay for the govs and lawmakers health care, i bet we could find another few million in cuts to their part time positions with their perks. 

    • Guest

      It’s interesting isn’t it.  Unpaid local council and select boards work year-round on local issues.  I have no idea how state and national legislators, who are, of course, paid, can possibly get the work done on a part-time basis.

  • Guest

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    • Anonymous

      I am really surprised the headline did not read: LePage admits he sold soul to devil; devil cannot confirm

      • Or, Devil Rejects First Contract in history, unleashing  it on Maine!

    • Anonymous

      Don’t you think his statement was taken out of context? The BDN is not going to say anything good about our Governor in any way, shape, or fashion. Any time they can make hay on an off hand remark, here comes the ah-hah! The road the BDN is on is one way.

      • Guest

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  • LePage has once again shown that he is more interested in eliminating programs that Republicans have traditionally not supported than actually balancing the budget.  Nationwide republicans are trying to use the debt crisis that they created to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and any other program that provides assistance to individuals.  LePage clearly says he is trying to eliminate the nannie state.  Fortunately the rank and file of the Republican party are coming to realize that they need help just like Democrats and Independents.  They want to depend on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.  They certainly don’t want to leave their fate to Paul LePage.  Hopefully, our legislators will have the courage to over-ride his veto.

    • Anonymous

      you have it wrong on so many issues i would not know where to start.

      the republicans did not create the crisis, ALL politicians did. the welfare state is out of control and must be reduced. and no one wants to rely on a government program for anything. they just dont have any choices these days, because all politicians dont care about “the people”.

      wake up.

  • Anonymous

    Democrat Hill said the governor wants to “cut programs for seniors, diabled and children”. When did Lepage say that? The entire article is about how the Democrats are saving the day and how Republicans want to hurt people. The BDN certainly has selective hearing.

    • Anonymous

      The Morning Sentinel had a much better article.
      Sorry, Eric, but they are kicking your butt when it comes to state house coverage. My suggestion? Get some facts for your story, and tone down the “he said, she said” nonsense.

      • Anonymous

        I hope Lepage shuts down many parts of the government so people can see how little we need some aspects of them.
        Just another daily attack.

        • Guest

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          • Anonymous

            Whoa down cowboy. Remember when McKernan shut the sevices down? That was what I was referring to. Let the citizens see how well we can do without them. I did not say all of it. Go back and read it again.

          • Guest

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          • Anonymous

            Yeah right

      • Anonymous

        They didnt cut squat, pushed 80 million to borrow to balance the budget, just anounced on Channel 6. Sorry buy that isnt compromise.

        Hope the Governor gets ammendments tacked on to cut the 80 mil of borrowing to zero!

  • Guest

    It’s a damn shame the  party hacks in the Legislature refuse to consider the structural changes needed to cure the problem.  They just want to preserve the welfare hammock for their non-working, non-producing constituents and the no-work patronage jobs to administer the freebies. 

     Not much difference between Republicans and Democrats here.  They are just two different legs of the same parasite.

    • Anonymous

       Not much difference between Republicans and Democrats here.  They are just two different legs of the same parasite.

      glad to see i’m not the only one who see’s the problem.

  • Guest

    As much as I vehmently oppose the institution of electronic medical records as antithetical to care, monies flowed into the state from the Federal Government as part of the $20 billion or so designated for Health Information Technology for Economic and Critical Health, aka part of the ‘Stimulus’ Act.   $6,599,401 was received by the State of Maine to utilize to enact electronic medical records/or HEI Health information Exchanges, and, the Department of Labor received $4,892,213.  An additional $600,000 was just granted to provide behavioral health and medical health records links.

    Could someone verify and address that hospitals and providers are receiving those incentives, and to what percentage, and how effectively that is reducing reliance on Emergency Rooms, for example, for patient care, and if the Department of Labor has used the near 5-million, if this is correct, for job training of the unemployed and underemployed in Maine.  Or, are outside contractors used.

  • By both Party’s negotiating and compromising, which is what the Legislative process is all about, the budget for the DHHS is now done. That LePage is still refusing to sign off on it , and is threatening a veto with his temper tantrum antic’s, now all but guarantee a veto overide sometime in the next 30 days. This veto overide is the begining of the end for what ever, and it was meager at best, support he had in Augusta. It also gives us all a big preview as to how the State House is going to run for the next 3 year’s, LePage’s antics notwithstanding. The Maine GOP needs, now, not 2 years hence, to decide if it is going to run with this kind of legislative or executive record as it’s claim to fame. Given the current Primary’s Caucus vote set to be released this Saturday, one would hope that the Maine GOP State Party Chairman has a little ‘closet time’ with the Governor and give him the foreseeable news.

    And as far as the Tea Party is concerned, well, the veto overide is basically the last nail in that coffin as far as effectiveness or poltical threats are concerned. Way to much has been made of these malcontent’s simply because they want to throw a temper tantrum and be a gloryboy in their own mind. The time to move Maine forward is now, not after a bunch of kids have their ‘coming out’ party, trash the State with their antics and leave the rest of us to come along and clean up after them. I for one am looking forward to the future. Looking back and re-living the past, especially in light of the Bibilcal principle of letting the ‘dead bury the dead’, benefit’s no one. Maine deserves better and the future is coming. Maine can either decide to lead, and quit complaining, or it can huddle in a economic and political cowardice ‘closet’ and keep being the hoped for never-to-return relative that the country has the impression of. That decision is what is expected from both the Governor and the Legislature. The Legislature, by the DHHS budget process, has apparently made their decision. The only decision left is what’s the Governor going to do ? That answer is going to provide us all with what we need to decide on when the next election cycle comes around.

    • Anonymous

      a lot of words, but not much of anything else.  i get it, you don’t approve of lepage, you think the tea party is dead, and maine is the “not welcome relative” of the rest of the country.

      i think lepage is trying to reduce the entitlement rolls that we cannot afford, and will continue to work to that end regardless of the detractors. the tea party is the one group that understands we cannot continue the debt cycle, and i love the state of maine and could care less what the rest of the country thinks of this state.

  • Anonymous

    According to the Waterville Sentinel’s article, there is a proposal to move $60 million into next year’s budget–it wasn’t clear to me if this became part of the final proposal. If it did, then I say vote it down! I am tired of gimmicks that fix a budget for one year, and leave ever more unpleasant choices for the future.
     

  • Anonymous

    Paulie’s soul has low mileage, and it is seriously under-powered for the weight it has to pull…I suspect the Devil swindled him with  Marden’s  pricing.

  • Anonymous

    Kudos for the committee for working together as a team of Maine citizens rather than play partisan politics. They took really Draconian policy and found a compromise that, although it won’t please all of the people all of the time, will help more people than the original changes LePage demanded.

    • Guest

      I’m not sure the article defines the compromise.  What does “freeze enrollment,” entail, for example.

      • Anonymous

        It means that any non-categoricals that have been on the waiting list for MaineCare are out of luck, as well the ones who would have applied in the future.
        It appears that the current non-categoricals who are already on MaineCare will continue to have benefits, but as people leave MaineCare (Death, improved financial situation, etc) nobody from the waiting list will be added, meaning eventually there will be no more non-categoricals receiving MaineCare.

        • Anonymous

           Maybe they should have a 1 year residency requirement and mandatory drug test like everyone in the Private Sector has to take to qualify for job, for any benefits!

          • Anonymous

            I absolutely agree with you.  

  • Are any of you following what’s going on around the world.  If not let me point out Iraq, Libya, Egypt and the list goes on.  If society continues to allow a separation of middle class to become lower class and the poorer to receive a band aid and placed on the streets do you think the rich will live comfortably ever after??  The answer is right in front of our eyes whether it’s on the news on television or the internet.  I’ll let ‘jimlay’ figure this one out on his own.

    Now about a quote in this article, ““Democrats are hell intent on sitting on their hands,” LePage told Mal Leary of Capitol News Service on Tuesday. “A majority budget doesn’t do it because it takes too much time and a two-thirds budget will not happen unless you sell your soul and I sold my soul to the devil long ago.”  I’m quite disturbed that the devils advocate is now working for the wrong team.  God bless !!

    • Anonymous

      are any of you going to realise that government is the problem?   you can say that “the rich” are the problem, as all politicians claim, but they and you are wrong.

      has any politician changed their lifestyle?, cut back on their expenses? , reduced the amount they spend on needed every day items? as the rest of us have?

      is it likely they ever will?

      because the rich can buy politicians they can benefit themselves, but why blame them when you would do the same if you could.

      blame the politicians for selling out. 

  • Anonymous

    This seems benign because nobody really gets cut right away, right?  Not quite.  that little bit about eligibility moving from 200%FPL to 133% is a major consequence.  This will still result in thousands being removed from the system and ultimately replacing their physician with the emergency room.  This is going to cost us more than it saves us….

    Until we truly get a handle on rising health care costs, we will watch as more and more people are removed from the rolls. This is absolutely unsustainable.   If the Heritage Foundations healthcare law actually gets fully implemented, we may see the cost curve turn downward, but not until then.  For those confused by that statement, let me remind the haters that the Affordable Care Act was drawn up by none other than the Heritage Foundation in the 1990s.  Funny that it has been cast as a demonic socialist plot to destroy America, since it came from the heart of the right wing machine.

    This is still a gimmick, to put it in the governors words.  No solutions here….

  • Guest

    Neighborhood Community Health Centers have enormous capacity to address whole-person health at reasonable cost.  One of the tremendous benefits to folks who utilize a traditionally person-centered NCHC, is the comprehensive, again, “whole-person” approach to quality health care.

    Here is one example:  Penobscot Community Health Care.   http://www.pchc.com/index.php?id=35&sub_id=70  I have no experience with this NCHC, and all cannot be considered of like mind and approach, but for overall cost-effectiveness and accessibility without shame, can they bettered?

    How many NCHCs are there in Maine, compared with physicians offices associated with the monopolized hospital corporation.

  • Anonymous

    So LePage is finally admitting what I have thought all along – that he has sold his soul to the devil.
    Enough said!!

  • Anonymous

    Lets move forward and focus on the real problem that people elected them all to do, Economic Develoment!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I kind of hope that he veto’s it.   Then I we will see JUST how red his face can get when the Legislature over rides his veto.     This is going to be great! A good ole fashion, flop on the floor, stomp your feet executive temper tantrum! Noparkforme will hear him howl all the way from Millinocket.

  • Anonymous

    That sounds like complete bull. Anyone receiveing TANF is required to seek work, volunteer, or go to school. A social worker cant just change the requirements of a federal program. And there are also requirements on Financial aid. You cant just keep dropping out and still qualify.
    BTW, if what you say is true and you dont report it YOU are part of the problem!

    • Guest

      It’s NOT bull- and I could tell pretty much the same story with different characters! It does happen. Report it?  Yea okay- have you ever tried that? I have- nothing happens, sorry to tell you. Sick Sick SICK of it!!

      • Anonymous

        Actually, yes I have reported someone and I had no problems at all. The person committing fraud was penalized and dealt with.

        However, my report to Augusta was detailed with *facts* and was not based off speculations or because of something I had “heard” from someone who knew someone who had a cousin whos brother-in-law worked for DHHS.
        What you’re suggesting is that social workers “cook” the applications so that recipients can illegally receive benefits? Or that any schools financial aid office would continue to allow students to receive financial aid who dont meet the academic expectations?
        Many people have tried to claim that DHHS workers are dishonest and encourage fraud and each time they fail to prove this….even with secretly taped videos.

        The fact is most DHHS workers do their job to the best of their ability. When they suspect abuse within the system they deal with it accordingly.

        • Anonymous

          And your reporting had nothing in comman  with what  RG1975 or deblogger are speaking of, so  you post is apples to oranges and means little.

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    I still say Mainecare needs to be run like a tight HMO. To many things are covered that shouldn’t be. Commerical insurances have certain protocols and prior auths that need to be fulfilled before this gets approved-Medicare needs to do the same. I work in an office where there are many elective non-urgent procedures done (for issues that are more unsightly than symptomatic) but because it’s Maincare and we are owned by the hospital, we cannot deny the procedures. Yet we have to wait MONTHS/YEARS for payment.  They can’t afford to pay for their own insurance and yet ride in to their appointments in vehicles that I would have to sell my house for, clothes I would love to be able to afford, and manicures that are high end. Hmmmmm..something is wrong with this picture.

    • Anonymous

      I agree. Some people even get invisalign done. To me, that is cosmetic, not a necessity.

  • Anonymous

    If you support the Governor’s method of governing, in which he tells Legislatures and their subsequent committees to stop communicating between each other in order to push his agenda, then you support an authoritarian regime.  If you support the Governor and his economic strategy that Maine is a business, then you support a philosophy of Maine people as resources to use however he sees fit to make the business of Maine the most profitable.  In this mode of thought we’re numbers not people and numbers, unlike corporations, haven’t been deemed as people just yet and are therefore easier to add and drop depending on their market value.

    In this administration the people of Maine aren’t the Bottom Line, they’re the Red Tape.

    Government is a process by which the voice of the people is translated into action.  For some of you the Governor’s voice sounds right in line, but to ignore and/or deny that a significant number of the rest of the state isn’t quite in harmony with you is to obstruct the entire process.  It is in essence to be undemocratic, dare I say, un-American.

    The Republicans and the Democrats are working together (Washington can’t even claim that), it’s time the Governor appreciated that fact and help find compromises to help us all, cause I’m sorry to tell those of you with staunch ideology, compromise is what it’s all about.

  • Lord Whiteman

     This deal doesn’t lower the current 6.3 billion dollar budget at all. IN fact this is nothing less that cost shifting and amounts to another new tax on working Mainers.

    Dec. 12  2011
    State Health and Human Services Commissioner Mary Mayhew says a plan to drop about 65,000 people from the state’s MaineCare program will have repercussions that go far beyond a loss medical of medical benefits. “There’s very little that can be done within this medicaid program that isn’t going to have an effect on Maine’s economy or that won’t have an effect on commercial health insurance premiums,” Mayhew says.

    As a former lobbyist for the Maine Hospital Association, Mayhew used to brief lawmakers on the financial hardships hospitals face when those without health insurance rely on emergency rooms in seeking medical care. She says that those numbers will rise under the LePage administration’s plan to cut $220 million dollars from the state budget over the next 18 months.

  • Anonymous

    So tired of Augusta being strong-armed by the Democrats and
    their lies. Again we will kick the can down the road molest our business for money
    to be wasted on what people want not what they need. Producers should just give
    up and bilk the system like the Dems want everyone to. I think I will sell my
    business go on the waste train and vote for the Dems. There is no hope of ever
    getting these drags on the economy to get some responsibility and take care of themselves.
    They have been spoon fed by the Dems for so long just to keep their voting block all
    self-responsibility is gone. Cannot wait to start receiving the checks I did
    not work for. Also I will have better insurance than I have now for free just
    for voting democrat. I need some time off from being a contributor anyway.

    • Anonymous

      Strong armed by the democrats ? Last I knew the republicans held the majority so in reality the democrats have little say on what passes the legislature.

      And most of the press releases regarding the success of a bipartisan compromise have been give out by the republican party leadership.

      Sounds to me like both parties got together and worked out the appropriations so the citizens of Maine could be best served.

      • Anonymous

        In Maine the previous administrations have been primarily democrat.

      • Anonymous

         I guess if you suspend  reality and ignore the facts , that would be what it sounds like.

    • “Drags on the economy…” Not all poepel on MaineCare are drags. Yes, some are, but try not generalizing and summarizing something you clearly do not understand. I am on MaineCare and am single with no Children, well, I ahd a son, but he died a few years ago. I served 8 years in the Navy and due to a shipboard accident I was involved in I am not eligible for Full Benefits.

       I am HIV positive(From my ex-girlfriend) and am 30 years old. I am not able to get Private insurance, unless I want to pay hundreds of dollars a month for it, that is if they’ll even cover me with a “Pre-existing Condidtion.” Thankfully, with money partially from Private and Federal sources, MainCare has special coverage for me and others like me. I pay a premium based on my income, which I work full-time as well as am in school working on a second Bachelors Degree,Even with VA Educational benefits I still qualify for, finacial aid, and my full-time income I do not make enough to get healthcare coverage when and if they actually covered me.

      Am I a drag? I pay taxes, I pay premiums, yet if some of the measures proposed by LaPage, who even though he may be a hard liner, I think has some good ideas, I will loose some of my coverage and may feel the effects of it for the rest of my life.

  • Anonymous

    Most people don’t like seeing cuts to any programs but in this economy it has to happen. The Governor was smart to put the pressure on the committee however, he needs to learn that you get more with sugar than you do with salt. Again, those Dem’s don’t like cutting especially when they think they may not get reelected. Maine has gone with a Dem’s Governor for sometime, I sure hope LePage had an audit of the books before he did much else. I think Maine is in a deep hole financialy especially with what we owe hospital etc. But I think it’s deeper than we know.

  • Anonymous

    So let me get this straight: 

    If you are childless and below 133% of FPG you get nothing

    If you have a child and are below 133% of FPG you get MaineCare.

    Does anybody see where this is going?

  • Anonymous

    There would not be any cut  if the state an cities, towns did not give out tax brakes. I knew this would happen every one loses all the way around .

  • Anonymous

    Rep. Peggy Rotundo sounds as though she is parroting Nancy Pelosi concerning the Obama-non-care Act–“we had to pass this budget…….,”  “we have to pass this healthcare act to know what is in it,” and you know where the Obama-non-care Act is leading us, as different parts have been mandated piecemeal.
    When you are not willing to stand on principles, then you will fall for anything, and that is what the wimpy Republicans are doing.

  • Anonymous

    Eric–fourth paragraph, third line–“take affect?”

  • Anonymous

    “We have been elected to do a job,” LePage wrote. “The Maine people spoke in November 2010, and its time we put politics aside and solve the problems and solve the problems that are preventing Maine from becoming a prosperous place to live.”  I can see three glaring miscalculations:
    1.  Use of the royal “we” in the first sentence.
    2. ” The Maine people” in the second sentence.  He only got something like 30+ percent of the total vote.
    3.  No talk of creating jobs to help Maine become that “prosperous place” 

  • Anonymous

    The legislature has spoken. But I guess LePage will veto the whole thing because it’s not a mirror reflection of his will. 

  • Anonymous

    Gov. LePage.  Note well, the committee’s proposals have bipartisan support.  Apparently, you don’t.  Learn well.

  • Guest

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  • Anonymous

    No your not a drag.I see to many around me abuse this system.It needs to be changed so people like you can get better help from tax dollars.

  • Anonymous

    Well the couch crowd gets their way again.

  • Anonymous

    Your own just put you in your place Governor.  You may not want to get re-elected, but they do!  Take that you disingenuous bully.  They can’t sell a majority of Mainers’ on your give to the rich and take from the poor plan. If we were gonna start cutting somewhere, it should have been across the budget (read: DMR, DOD, DPS, SOS) or perhaps you shouldn’t have given away our money to the business world.  It already costs us plenty to deal with them. 

  • Anonymous

    Typical Liberal math,  borrow from tomorrow , lie to the people that you balanced the budget which is pure BS!

    Veto it gov, and to the members on the appropriations committee, you are a disgrace to the people you represent!

    • Anonymous

      VETO, VETO, VETO!!!!  We did not elect this legislature to continue the failed policies of Baldacci.  Unfortunately, that is exactly what they delivered.

  • Anonymous

      “Doing what is right for the Maine people is more important that getting reelected.” You will not have to worry about reelection Paul but Re-call oh yeah.

  • Anonymous

    There can be “No Free Lunch”!

  • Anonymous

    lepage is not trying to do what is best for this state or people thank goodness his term is coming to an end.

  • Anonymous

    The Governor would do well to accept this compromise.  He can continue to work toward addressing the long term solution but, given the approaching shadow of Obamacare, should accept this proposal without further rancor until more is known about whether any part of Obamacare is overturned.

  • Anonymous

    “The compromise budget reduces the number of noncategoricals on the MaineCare rolls by about half, lawmakers said, but does not eliminate them from coverage, something the governor wanted.”

    I am scratching my head here. How can the budget reduce the number of noncategoricals on the MaineCare rolls by half, without eliminating them from coverage? Can anyone help me out here?

  • Anonymous

    Geez Eric, my kingdom for some facts! This article goes on and on, but tells the reader very little about what is in the bill. How can citizens form an opinion on something if the news media fails to report the facts? I don’t care if Rep. so and so says it was a good deal. I want to know what is in the deal.
    Is it true they are filling $60 million of the shortfall by simply pushing that amount into next year’s budget? It’s a gimmick Baldacci used at the end of his term, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see more of the same. Are they eliminating coverage for some noncategoricals, or not? If so, about how many? What about reimbursement to hospitals? According to another article on this site, reimbursements to hospitals will be cut again. So how can we let legislators get away with saying that hospitals will be paid for services—when the truth is the state is not going to pay them for all the services they provide?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry, BUT some one please tell me why I have to pay tax for some young adult, who has no children and does not want to earn a living? I know a 26 year old guy who is bragging that he only works 25 hours a week and the state is giving him over $250.00 a month in an EBT card (food stamps). All because he does not want to work. I don’t want to pay for this lazy piece of work, and you should not either! In this case I believe the Governor is right and this kind of welfare should come to an end!

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