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  • Anonymous

    This situation figures right into Lepages attempts to cut DHHS funds for MaineCare.  The reason so many people in Maine are in need of this help is because of the poverty.  Not because people are slackers!  Many of these folks work minimum wage jobs at places like Mardens and they still cannot afford to eat and stay warm never mind provide themselves with healthcare.  In typical GOP fashion, Lepage wants low wage companies to use these people until they get old or sick and then deny them help, hoping only that they will die soon and not be a burden to the system.

    • Anonymous

       WOW! I like your post….A LOT!!

    • Anonymous

      Watchdog, please move to Washington County and open a business and employ people with wages and benifits that make you feel good. This would involve you taking a risk, borrowing against all of your assets and then make a profit at your venture.  
      It is alot easier to sit back and be a  criticizer , than actually do something.
       

      • Anonymous

        We have a problem here in Washington County. It seems that everytime someone comes along with an enterprise the NIMBY’s come out of the woodwork to kick and scream at anything proposed. Is it any wonder that people don’t even make an attempt to open more businesses?

        • Anonymous

           Blaming  everything on Nimbys is kind of a tired agenda. Washington county has 20% less of its population than it had in 1850. This idea that in Washington County a few environmentalists can derail the captains of industry and their grandiose plans, and have been able to for generations, is delusional.

          • Harry H Snyder III

            Actually the 1900 census listed 102,345 people in Washington County, we now have somewhere around 33,000 full time residents. Most of them work…..damn hard.

          • Anonymous

            I was getting the numbers  off the US Census which says 38,811 for 1850 and 45,232 for 1900, and 32,856 for 2010. It takes a lot of hard work to live in Washington County, but I think it’s worth it.

      • Anonymous

        I’ll tell you what I DON’T recommend.  Taking MaineCare away from desperate people, whether they have children or not.  I wouldn’t take away their LHEAP funding in the middle of winter.  I wouldn’t reduce the budget for job training administration.  I wouldn’t call good hard working people lazy slackers and take away the minimal assistance they might be eligible for.  Maine has a higher rate of social services recipients because of the poverty in Maine, not because the people don’t want to work.

        You know Downeast, you are doing the very thing you accuse me of doing.  You complain about my anti-Lepage post by inferring that at least Lepage is doing something, assuming that I am not.  So here is another way of thinking about it.  Lepage, by following the GOP anti-people agenda, is actually making the damage and suffering worse.  Making things worse for these folks isn’t a solution, that is part of the problem!

        • Anonymous

          @watchdogME 
          1) Nowhere in my post do I defend or deride any Governor past or present. 2) I challenged you and all the other goverment will take care of us all people to get off your butt and actually do something to improve your fellow citizens plight.  To take a risk and have some skin in the game. 

          • Anonymous

            You have no idea what my contributions to society have been.  Nor I you.  What I am talking about, regardless of what you want to talk about, is poverty in Maine being exacerbated by the misguided ideologues running our state.  The value in my comments is not to be found in a recipe for starting a company in Washington county, or Aroostook, or any other county in Maine.  The value is in pointing out that Governor Lepage’s management of the poverty situation in Maine is deeply flawed.  Lepage feels compelled to justify his time as governor by trying to fix the Maine state budget.  That is fine however in typical Republican party fashion he is attempting to do so on the backs of those who are least able to take the hit.  The poor, the elderly, the indigent, the ill, our children, or even those who simply cannot find a job that pays a living wage, these folks are all on his list of lazy slackers that need to be culled from our society.  Shame on Lepage, shame on the GOP, and shame on all who support them in this endeavor.

          • Anonymous

            It’s not the children, elderly or disabled that are being ‘hit’ as you call it.  It’s the ‘crowd’ that is single, childless and just doesn’t want to work.  Sounds fair to me.  Stop ‘stretching’ the truth to include groups that are not being targeted and stop being a fear monger.  Many in Washington Country work several jobs to make ends meet.  Stop depending on the ‘government’ to provide for you. Those people without jobs/disabilities/children need to go out and work several jobs just like the people who pay for their free ride.

          • KC

            And where are these jobs Viper? Its easy to sit and pass judgment from the comfort of your home isnt it? I know plenty of people that are at the Career Center every single week BEGGING for employment. I know guys that have been laid off and have had to resort to junking metal or working in the woods because they want to keep what little bit of dignity and pride they have left and NOT end up in line at DHHS for foodstamps to feed themselves. They’ve lost their homes,vehicles, and everything they’ve held dear. The mill has downsized, DiCenzo’s has downsized, Lanes has downsized, and nearly every other business that has somehow managed to stay afloat is barely making ends meet and IS NOT hiring!

            So, if you know where all these jobs are PLEASE share with the rest of us!

      • Anonymous

        i moved to washington county in 2003 and started a bussiness, and employed 3 locals , the local towns folk slowly by word of mouth undermined it and ran me outta town ….because i was from away

        • Harry H Snyder III

          I’m “from away” too, but the people here have been nothing but great to me.  You are using an outdated stereotype,that wasn’t even accurate 40 years ago.

          Oh, and Phoebe Figalilly, the poverty level is comprised of a number of indicators including how much actual money a family has after paying for “necessities” such as rent heat, food, transportation (only to and from doctor, work, and grocery shopping) and health care. Most people “below the poverty level” actually work. Wheen I was starting out the rule of thumb was 1/4 of your income was rent. For some workers today, that number is an impossibility.

          • Anonymous

             I, too, am “from away”. I have lived here for 30 years now. I  have held seats on several boards, one I was elected to by the townspeople. I have joined organizations, helped my neighbors, helped with school functions, supported sports teams and the local school……and to top it off, the position to which I was elected to, people from my town encouraged me to run for it. It all has to do with the way you interact with people and your attitude. I am sooooo glad I moved here and raised a family. I wouldn’t live anywhere else. :)

          • Anonymous

            try liv in in milbridge…they are outdated stereotypes, livin each dayas a stereotype….oh and yea there so fer behind that youd swear it i966

      • Anonymous

        Downeastvalues appears to be saying that no one has the right to point out that a problem exists, unless they are prepared to solve the problem themselves, instantly and singlehandedly.

        • Anonymous

          Wrong, what I am tired of is people using a story about a bad situation to voice  their polical views.  This story is about the lack of jobs and an economic challenge.   Lead, Follow,or get out of the way.  But don’t throw snowballs that somebody else made.

          • Anonymous

             Well said!

          • Anonymous

            ye!

    • Ya hit it right on the nose.

    • Anonymous

      OK…so what’s your solution watchdog, just keep putting more and more people on “the system” until “the system” is bankrupt and then everyone is screwed?

      Yeah, now THAT sounds like some sustainable solution there watchdog!  Hey, that’s pretty much what’s happening right now…what-do-ya-know!

      Why don’t you try again.  And this time try telling everyone what YOUR solution is.  I’m of the opinion you have no sustainable, long term solutions and are just an emotional reactionary, along with the other 50 people that agree with you.  

      • Anonymous

        Do YOU have any long term, sustainable solutions? The very people we elect into office are supposed to be doing that and they’re NOT. They keep taking and cutting. OUR tax dollars pay their salaries and I say THEY should take a substantial cut in pay to help out! Monies should not be cut from the programs that the poor very badly need. Not everyone who receives aid are slackers. A lot of them work and because of their income are eligible for help.

        • Listen up liberals, welfare is not a sustainable solution. 

          Poverty is a state of mind, the “poverty level” was created to promote class warfare and to further the agenda of the liberals.  The “poverty level” deems that everyone should have a certain amount of money, doesn’t matter that it’s not their own money, anybody’s money will do, thus the welfare system of today.  Where is it written that everyone should start on a financial level playing field? 

          From 1929 on thru the 50’s the whole country lived in poverty, sure things were rough but did they sit around and moan and groan and gripe about it, no, they survived on their ingenuity, when they had no work, they moved to where there was work.   There was no welfare as we know it today, neighbors helped neighbors, families took care of their own and charity came from Churches. 

          What makes poverty a state of mind is because we have our priorities messed up.  When we worked we spent, we taught our kids how to expect the latest, greatest toys instead of teaching them that “money doesn’t grow on trees” and if you want something bad enough, work for it. 

          We have two generations now of people who don’t know how to survive, they’ve been brought up to believe that “things” are what defines you and your social status, “the boys with the most toys wins”.  If you can’t afford it that’s when you decide you’re poverty stricken, then you sign up for welfare and suddenly you can afford it.  

          There was a time when people were too proud to ask for help so they made do and still managed to not act poor, they were clean, their clothes were clean, they went to Church, they planted gardens, they had food on the table, maybe not what they wanted but they didn’t starve, but most of all they had pride and self respect, nobody has any pride anymore, the welfare system of today has taken that away.    They lived in tar paper shacks if they had to but now with all the regulations and building codes people can no longer do that, which is another one of my pet peeves that I won’t go into now.

          Bottom line is, you don’t have to be poor just because you are living below the “poverty level”.  

          Mainers are notorious for being set in their ways and are not willing to start over until they lose everything they have.  The key to success is, you don’t wait until you hit rock bottom, you foresee the rocks and do something before you hit them and it crushes all life out of you. 

          • Anonymous

            Poverty is a state of mind!!!  What is wrong with you?  I know, once again it’s the people who are suffering that have the problem.  You need to go back to the school where you took that social economics course and get your money back.

          • There’s not a thing wrong with me.  Before the current welfare system and the “poverty level” did people go around crying “woe is me”, I’m living in poverty or did they do what they had to do to survive?   Times have been much harder in the past then they are now. 

            The people who are suffering, often is of their own doing.  There are jobs to be had if they want to take a chance and move to where the jobs are instead of “suffering” where they are, they just need to get off their butts and go look for them. 

            Most people don’t like change so they don’t want to take a job that is outside the scope of what they’ve always done but as the world changes we also need to change.

          • Anonymous

            They didn’t say “woe is me”, they died. Their kids died. They suffered. Disease weakened their bodies. In this day and age, with the resources we have, “survival” seems like a pretty silly goal for Americans.

          • Anonymous

            Watchdog????  You still haven’t answered WilWhipple’s relevant questions.
             
            On April 1, 2012, the Department of Health and Human Services will run out of money to pay for Medicaid benefits. Currently, we are borrowing money from the fourth quarter to pay bills in the second quarter. There are no politics involved with these facts.
            We will not be able to pay for services for those truly in need if the problem is not addressed now. Maine can no longer:
            Rely on federal stimulus money to pay for Medicaid bills – there is none.Refuse to pay its hospital bills – a devastating tactic employed by the last administration that the Governor began to fix with his first budget. We will not destroy Maine’s hospitals.

            What do you do when you run out of money? I assume you see it coming and prepare for it. Make adjustments in your budget..give up something you really don’t need…et al.

            The facts are clear. Maine cannot afford its Medicaid program as it currently stands. Change must occur through restructuring eligibility, re-designing benefits and adopting payment reform which addresses structural problems and will put Maine’s Medicaid program on a path to financial responsibility.
            Governor LePage is trying to save Maine’s Medicaid program from insolvency. 

            Anyway, I will post WilWhipple’s pertinent questions again:
            **********************************
            OK…so what’s your solution watchdog, just keep putting more and more people on “the system” until “the system” is bankrupt and then everyone is screwed?
            Yeah, now THAT sounds like some sustainable solution there watchdog!  Hey, that’s pretty much what’s happening right now…what-do-ya-know!
            Why don’t you try again.  And this time try telling everyone what YOUR solution is.  I’m of the opinion you have no sustainable, long term solutions and are just an emotional reactionary, along with the other 50 people that agree with you.

          • Anonymous

            So you want me to post an answer, here in the BDN comment section, that details how to fix the national economic malaise.  An answer that both you and I know you won’t like.  Regardless, I’ll oblige your request.

            Fix the problem nationally and you’ll fix Maine’s poverty problem too.  The GOP is wholly responsible for the collapse of our economy, an economy that Clinton had running in the green.  So my answer to Maine’s problem and the nation’s problem, is to vote democratic.  Get rid of the republicans.  Get them out of our state and national legislatures.  Then the problem will be fixed.  You can start by voting for Obama and against Senator Snowe this next election.

          • Anonymous

            Nobody asked you for a solution to the nation’s problems. This article is not about a national crisis. This is about the state of Maine and the LePage administration.

            Your reply is obtuse. There is no way for a logical thinking person to reply to it. Obama, btw….cut Maine’s LiHeap funds in half.  One of the coldest States in the Nation and he deprives us of necessary and vital LiHeap funds. That is malevolent and immoral. No one with a brain would or could vote for a tyrant like that.

            How states are governed is not like the Federal Government. States are obligated and required to balance their budget from year to year.  Unlike Ben Bernake, state treasurers can’t print money and bill it to our grandchildren (not yet born) 

            WilWhipple and I already know you’re just a big blowhard who can’t resolve your way out of a paperbag.  

          • Anonymous

            I guess my reply was over your head.  Sorry you do not understand the fundamental issue of my point.  And yet even though you did not understand, predictably, you did not like my response.

          • Anonymous

             I agree with you! Poverty is NOT a STATE OF MIND! I’d like to see some of these people posting go and tell that to a homeless family……a family whose parents have lost their job due to the economy and children who don’t have the same clothes as their classmates…..and are now being made in fun of and possibly bullied. Parents who have been looking for a job for a very long time…..the family who can’t AFFORD to move where the jobs are……..to all of you who think poverty is a “state of mind”, go look a homeless person in the face and tell them that! Some of these people need to actually have contact with a family that IS living in poverty and see what it’s REALLY like.

          • Anonymous

             Anyone who glorifies the good old days, when the average person died at fifty-five, and there were a lot of suffering, cold , hungry and sick people, is not really thinking the idea through. I do agree that not having money doesn’t make you “poor”, but not having food does make you hungry. In the Maine winter, not having a place to get warm does make you cold, and being very sick and not being able to be able to see a doctor can make you sicker or dead.

          • Anonymous

            tarheel5, you obviously DO understand what I’ve been trying to say.  I don’t like sounding mean but Phoebe really does not understand what she is talking about.  Imagine saying to someone who is suffering that it is just a state of mind.  My gosh!

          • Anonymous

             Actually, in real money, people are poorer now then at any time since the depression. Real wages have been falling for 30 years. We do have a lot more and should be thankful for that, but many of us are just an injury or a layoff away from really hard times. The thought of a family living in a tar paper shack when we pay our government officials  bundles of money is ludicrous. Back in the day, the kids were pulled out of school so they could work in the fields, mines, factories. That perpetuated ignorance and poverty and it wasn’t until that cycle was broken that we really made progress as a people.  Your generalizations and simple putdowns of “notorious” Mainers are silly and untruthful.

          • Anonymous

            well said, Phoebs

  • Guest

    It’s a good thing we had a census: Now we know that one in three children live in poverty down in Washington County.REALLY? Perhaps an official from the Federal government can call those kids to let them know- and then tell them what we’re going to do to  help them have some shot at a productive and happy life.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    This census # is based on Federal tax returns and reported income.  Things in Washington County seem a whole lot better than they were 10, 20, 30, or 40 years ago…. and lots less scrap metal laying around.

    What seems funny is that no one talks about Washington County poverty when there is a Democrat in the Blain House.

    • Anonymous

      Funny, isn’t it.  Sometimes a D will come out and say, “Yes, tough times.  Don’t worry…the mill will reopen soon.  Gotta go!”

    • Anonymous

      Baldacci vetoed the casino for Downeast Maine after both the house and senate voted it through.  Lots of people complained, but then when he showed his face in Calais after being absent for months, only one business owner told his chief of staff that he was not welcome in her business!  Everyone else, who was also complaining about the veto, still had their photo op with him…  

    • J Mc

      “and lots less scrap metal laying around.”
      Some of the “scrap metal” you’re talking about came from the plumbing that was stolen from my house.    Poverty is not good for any county.  Anywhere.  And fishermen who can’t fish, scallopers who are shut out of their areas, and mill workers whose mill has shut down, are not likely to be able to heat houses, feed children, or fuel cars.  Hope you are giving some of your hard-earned gains to help those out-of-work breadwinners, to make this winter a bit easier on them.

      • Harry H Snyder III

        Do you know me? J Mc could be a number of folks I know.  This winter HAS been easier than any I have seen in Maine in my lifetime.

        The big mill is open, and trucks with lumber roll past my house all night and day.

        Most of the J Mc’s I know have lived here awhile so tell me the truth, don’t we have less poverty, then say in the early seventies?

    • Anonymous

      It’s amazing that anyone out of Washington County even mentions us at all. I for one would like to see the county change its name to ‘Afterthought County’. That would put us to the fore front of counties alphabeticaly and force politicians from the rest of the state to be honest when they mention us, if at all.

      •  Yea, that won’t work either. Ask a legislator where Aroostook County is. Being  toward the top of the alphabet just means you are among the first to be overlooked.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know where you’ve been Harry but I know for at least the past 30 years Augusta has talked about poverty in Washington County but no one from any political party has done anything to effectively change anything. 

  • They need jobs . Maine dose not do enough . So were not allowed a Racino like Bangor? poverty breeds more poverty. Kids bought up in poor environments do not get as good an education drop out of school more do more drugs and alcohol. Maybe they need to do more with a Candian connection  .

    • It’s not poverty that breeds poverty, it’s ignorant parents who breed poverty.  Parents that don’t want anything better for themselves don’t instill the values in their children to want to do better. 

      Kids in poor environments get the same educational opportunity that all other kids get in the public school system, it’s what they choose to do with that education that determines what kind of a life they have.  It would be much easier for kids who had parents that supported and pushed them but just because they are poor is no excuse for not taking advantage of opportunities.  

      LePage didn’t come from a privileged upbringing, he was homeless at a young age but still managed to survive, work and get an education, not to mention become a Governor, so no matter what you think of him politically you have to admire his accomplishments.

      • Anonymous

        Not ALL “ignorant parents” breed poverty! I hate when you all assume you can stereotype certain people into one mold. Some “well to do” parents breed ignorant kids!

        • Let me see if I understand you, “Not ALL “ignorant parents”, you’re defending ignorant parents? 

          I didn’t say ALL anything and I didn’t say poor people are ignorant and I didn’t stereotype anyone. 

          • Anonymous

             YOU called them ignorant parents. I was just responding to what YOU called them. Basically, what you said is poverty is caused by ignorant parents and you ARE stereotyping! I am not defending ignorant parents….I am saying poverty can be caused by all kinds of circumstances, but that doesn’t make the parents ignorant!  And ignorant parents come from all walks of life, not just poverty level ones.

          • Harry H Snyder III

            “It’s not poverty that breeds poverty, it’s ignorant parents who breed poverty.”

            The all is implied, take a course in English and you will learn that if you don’t use a “modifier” like some, most or 7%, “all” is the natural assumption.

  • Anonymous

    One in three kids in Washington County live in poverty? Let’s see…………. why don’t these kids have more money??????  Oh, that’s right, they don’t have jobs…………… Soooooooo…..  Why don’t they have jobs ???????? Oh, that’s right they’re kids. Sooooooooooo ………………… Does this mean their parents don’t have jobs ??????????????  Why do their parents have kids if they can’t take care of them??????????????

    • Anonymous

       Maybe some of these parents DID have jobs, but due to the economy, businesses have closed, people are laid off, fishing is not very good right now. There are a lot of scenarios. A lot of families have been thrown into poverty because of circumstances that are beyond their control.

      • Anonymous

        maybe, maybe, maybe….let’s create some more policies on maybes, its worked sooooooo well for us thus far!

    • Guest

      Guess what…there are very rich people who “don’t take care” of their kids. Regardless of why these kids are poor, doing nothing to help get them out of this cycle will cost all of us more money in the end.

    • Anonymous

      I’m not sure I want to live in a world where only the rich are allowed to have children because they can ‘afford’ them.

    • Anonymous

      And if you have kids while you’re employed, then lose your job, what are you supposed to do with them? Give them to wealthy couples?

      • Anonymous

        No.  According to Phoebe you’re supposed to live in a manufactured state of mind that convinces you that you are rich!  Later, when you and your children die young from a bad diet or a lack of modern healthcare, the problem is solved.

    • KC

      Washington County wasnt always like this. So, if a young couple has good jobs, gets married, starts a family, and yrs later every major business downsizes and you lose your job security then what? Give the kids away because you’ve fallen on hard times and cant afford to feed them? Which, BTW, has to be one of the hardest hits to mans pride when he can no longer provide for his family.
      Or maybe they should pack up and move? But where does that money come from? Just to come up with money to move to Bangor seems impossible to most.

      Everyone seems to think that they’re are all these easy solutions but ya know what….walk a mile before you pass judgment.

  • Anonymous

    Heck, I’m still living below the poverty limit!! There is no end in sight, so until we can pull ourselves up by our bootstraps I suggest we suck it up, stop whining and live simply! If you cant afford to pay your light bill or you need food stamps to feed yourself and your family then you certainly dont need to by lottery tickets, cigarettes, beer and UGG boots!!!! Common sense people…use it!

    • Anonymous

      Here we go.  Another “if you weren’t a slacker and didn’t spend your money senselessly you’d be OK” answer.  Good grief!

      • Anonymous

         I love reading your posts! :)

  • Anonymous

    Here you go Governor, Fix a real problem! and taking away healthcare is no place to start.

  • Anonymous

    Keep cutting Lapage it will make them poorer..

  • Thomas Stewart Carter

    How’s that Hope and Change workin’ out for ya?

  • Anonymous

    When the state runs out of money it’s going to get much worse.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a sickness in your response that’s hard to believe. If a woman was arrested for prostitution where you live, can I assume that all the women who live there are whores. That’s exactly what you’ve done in calling most of the parents DownEast as junkies. Yes we have a drug problem here, so do you where you live. Poverty is the #1 contributor to drug abuse. Done anything to help a poor person lately?

  • Guest

    Back in the 60’s, our Dad would occasionally take us down to Calais/Alexander to see his sister.
    She lived in a half finished house, worked a job, manually grew a 2.5 acre garden and canned it all, picked her own tips to tie 3000 wreaths a year all while having 11 kids and a belt-length-beard lay-about husband who did virtually nothing to help.  My parents told me ‘that’s the way men are down there’.  That’s the image I still have in my mind….

    • Anonymous

       That is NOT the way men are “down there”! Fishermen, clam diggers, men picking tips, men cutting wood, men who work at the mill, hospitals, restaurants, gas stations, banks, men who deliver oil, drive the plow trucks, work construction and the list goes on. You cannot base your assumption of “all” men on what your uncle was!

      • Guest

        Hey, this was close to 50 years ago!
        See my response to deblogger below.

        • Anonymous

           Hey, I posted my post an hour before you did, so I didn’t see it til now!

          • Guest

            Hey! your timeline doesn’t hold up to the timeline showing: you replied to me 9 hrs ago, me to you 7 hrs ago, then you to me 3 hrs ago.
            Confused much?

    • Guest

      Your parents were dead wrong. Pity to your aunt.

      • Guest

        I hope that their observation of 50 years doesn’t hold today, but when driving through the same area on a nostalgia tour 20 odd years ago, I stopped at a local diner. The place was full, at 3PM, and they still all looked like members of ZZ Top with nothing but coffee in front of them.
        Just an observation…

        • Anonymous

           So what! Could be they were on break from a job, on vacation, in between jobs…….or maybe, they are a war vet who fought for YOUR freedom. Just because they were sitting in a diner at 3PM and looked like members of ZZ Top doesn’t mean they are no good males!

          • Guest

            Like I said “Just an observation”! Don’t get your knickers in a twist. I didn’t cause the reason for this article; just commented on what I witnessed 30 and 50 years ago. In ’65, that was the general opinion around my area of The County about that county. When a 10 yr old is around that attitude,  it does tend to stick in the old gray matter.
            – Oh, and to avoid more confuse for you, this is on a different conversational thread than the other one we have. :)

             OF COURSE somebody is “delivering the oil”etc., or nothing would  ever get done….

            And, hey! how do you know whether or not I fought for our ‘freedom? be careful with assumptions.

          • Anonymous

             ME be careful with MINE?? Yeah ok.

          • Guest

            YES, YOU!! I didn’t assume anything or deride anybody with a 50 year old observation! No assumptions on my part, only a little on your part (service duty), along with a defensive reply without any reading comprehension of my original comment and subsequent replies. I didn’t say anything about their CURRENT situation. 

            I like having a good banter of ideas and opinions with people here, but only when the other takes the time to understand what other is trying to say w/o an overly negative overreaction.
            We’ll talk soon, and G’nite.

          • Anonymous

             You have based your opinion of men in Washington County on what you were told, almost 40 years ago, by your parents, because of your uncle……and that stuck in your grey matter. You even said that.

          • Guest

            How many times do I have to say that it’s not a current opinion, just an GD observation of a 10 year old?

            Perhaps you’ve mellowed too much.

  • Anonymous

     Ignorance seems to be a much bigger problem than drugs or alcohol judging by your post.

  • Anonymous

     Do you live in Washington County?

  • Anonymous

    That’s quite the assumption. Now I’m going to make one. Bangor is made up entirely of Bath Salt users. Way more junkies there than in WC. Now, we are both making baseless assumptions. Get it?

  • Anonymous

    No, Kightscross, the majority of parents in Washington County are not junkies.  The majority of us are regular human beings working hard to do the best of our children. Thank God you are obviously not a resident of Washington County.

  • hey-I’m-your-man

    I don’t understand why Washtington County and Saint Stephen, NB area don’t work together. Just take a look at Saint Stephen area over the past 25 years. 25 years ago it was a DIVE, today through hard work it has come back to life again. I know we are talking about US and Canada – but also numerous people cross the border everyday for work/shopping – we NEED to find a way for Washington County to thrive like Saint Stephen area is today – and we are only talking the city next door to Calais.

    Why can’t we (better yet, why don’t we) work together and prosper?

     When will Maine get on with building a decent hwy from Bangor to Calais – New Brunswick has already done what they promised to do – why dosen’t Maine follow through on their promise – it would definitly benefit Washington County – especially with increased tourisim dollars.

  • JimmyJ

    I get a kick out of these “no government spending for people – i.e., welfare” folks who seem to have no problem with our out of control government “welfare” for lots of other people and entities including:  2 failed wars in the Middle East that have ROBBED nearly $1 trillion from Americans; failed and unfair tax policies that allow filthy rich people such as Mitt Romney to pay less than 14% federal income tax while his middle class employees pay as much as twice that rate; failed U.S. trade policy (i.e., free trade agreements galore) that rob Americans of good paying jobs; failed U.S. bank regulation policy that allows banks who fraudulently processed mortgages and other banking instruments, were given the “reward” of a bailout, have now since made tons of money and paid their CEO’s tens of millions of dollars, and yet they can’t seem to accelerate business lending NOR work on adjusting the mortgages for folks who played by the rules and yet got zonked; failed government energy policy that has allowed gasoline to be the biggest export now in the U.S. and yet the price of gas is projected to increase another 60 cents/gallon by May. FAILED government policies that have allowed the rich and the corporations to essentially own everything with no hope for the lower classes to make any upward move.  Don’t give me bull crap about how all the poor people should buck it up and get those $20/hr. jobs in the midst of all of this unfair economic structure.  I say send LePage and his other mean spirited cronies in the right wing world to Washington County, give them only the amount of $ a low income person has over there to live on, and see how well they fair for a few weeks or months when food is so much higher, energy is so much higher, health care on your own is so much higher, and none of the millionaires, billionaires, and banks are creating new jobs.

    • We have plenty of problem with our out of control government and it’s up to us to change it by voting ALL of them out, but will we do it, no we won’t because can’t agree on kicking them all to the curb, republican and democrat.   Until that changes and we agree that some tough choices have to made in this country then nothing will change.

      • Anonymous

        I’d settle for just kicking out the Republicans, starting with Lepage.

        • And therein lies the problem, you, as a liberal, refuse to accept that both parties are responsible.  

          Congress has a 13% approval rating yet we won’t kick them to the curb. 

          • Anonymous

            I only wish that Congressional Democrats would fight the Republican obstructionists harder.

          • You still don’t get it, do you?

          • Anonymous

             WHY do you think everyone is a Liberal? And why must you always act like you are so much smarter than everyone else? Please step down off your pedestal.

  • Guest

    You are also dead wrong. Your negative comments never cease to amaze me…move , why don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe you said this. How the hell would you know that “most of the parents are junkies” !!! My son and his wife live in Washington Co. and support 2 children, they are lucky to have good jobs and are certainly not “junkies”!! Many parents here do not have jobs and are struggling to make ends meet but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are on drugs, just unfortunate. Granted , we do have a drug problem here but what county in Maine doesn’t !!!
    What Utopia do you live in ????? Please don’t make idiotic generalizations !!!!

  • Harry H Snyder III

    Where do you live? Your post sounds kinda “junkie”

  • Anonymous

    people need to get off wellfare and get a job…

    • Anonymous

      And yet, people need a job to get off welfare. Ironic, eh? 

  • Government Dependency Index Surges 23% Under President Obama

    http://news.investors.com/Article/600452/201202080802/government-dependence-jumps-under-president-obama.htm

    An interesting excerpt from the article.

    “Obama’s own former economic adviser, Larry Summers, noted in the 1999 Concise Encyclopedia of Economics
    that “government assistance programs contribute to long-term
    unemployment … by providing an incentive, and the means, not to work.”

  • Anonymous

    Dear Governor LePage,

    Please explain how the following information fits with your claim (which got you elected) to bring jobs to Maine–

    “An analysis of federal Bureau of Labor Statistics data reveals that in the year beginning January 1, 2011, Maine lost more jobs per capita than any other state in the nation.  Only five other states (Alaska, Missouri, Vermont, Delaware and Wisconsin) lost jobs over the same period, and Maine ranked 50th in job performance nationally.

    “The 7,200 jobs Maine lost in 2011 are just the tip of Maine’s persistent jobs crisis iceberg.  More than 100,000 Mainers remain unemployed or underemployed.  Thousands are working fewer hours and making less in wages than they did before the recession.  Increasingly, having a job in Maine does not guarantee economic security for individuals or families.  Based on recent American Community Survey microdata, in 2009, 1 of every 15 families with at least one member employed full time lived in poverty.  And nearly 1 of every 3 had an income less than 200% of poverty, a measure of economic self-sufficiency.”

    http://blog.mecep.org/2012/02/maine-leads-the-nation-in-job-losses/

  • Anonymous

    remove repeat comment

  • Anonymous

    For some reason my response ended up down here rather than under the comment I was responding to.

    • Anonymous

       I’ve had that happen to me a few times.

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